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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Dual-Mating Strategy

Alpha mom with a TCS demands exclusivity from a man with options. More news at 11.
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MelkorHimself

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago Stickied

A'ight, I'm bringing back my old WAATGM drinking game for this one.

1 shot for every red flag or OLD cliche.

  • bathroom selfie. Red flag and cliche! *shot*

  • drink in hand in photo. Cliche! *shot*

she/her

virtue signaling via "preferred pronouns". Red flag! *shot*

I date black men

white chick excluding her own kind. I'm ok with being open to all, and I'm ok with sticking to your own kind, but I'm hard pressed to think of a bigger red flag than excluding your own kind. *shot*

single mother

...unless it's that one. that's a bigger red flag. *shot*. shingle momsh are good for pump and dump or flingsh, but jusht terrible relationship proshpectsh.

2 fur babies

Women who refer to their petsh as "fur babies" or to themshelvesh as "pet parentsh" are mentally unstable. Source: my wife does thish, and she's pshychot-hic! Pshychot-hic! Fucking crazy! *shot*

alpha female

A) there'sh no such thing, you stupid biatch.

B) women who refer to themshelvesh as "alpha" tend to be ball-breaking, shrieking harpies.

C) red flag! *shot*

I like to win fair and square [winky face]

Transhlated: "any man who wantsh a whiff better let me win!" Red flag. *shot*

  • picture with combined TSC and RBF

double red flagsh! That means double shot! *shot shot*

*hiccup*

only woman you need to be admiring is me if we become a couple

Mile-wide jealoush shtreak! If you sho mush as glanche in another woman'sh direction, you'll never hear the *hic* end of it. *shot*

  • [blurry photo of her doing God-knows-what at what appears to be a bar]

Aww, fuck it. *shot*

  • [photo with TCS, fake smile, and previously-unrevealed neck tattoo]

God dammit. Why am I doing thish? *shot shot shot*

(my personal hell is...) my mental illness

Fucking hell. Any man who hasn't noped the fuck *hic* out already had better done sho with thish reveal. That'sh a flag so red, the Big, Bad Wolf tried to eat itsh grandma. *shot*

don't let that scare you away

Ok, I need to shober up or at least act shober to addressh thishhh, because thish is important.

*clears throat*

That's very basic manipulative language that's incredibly easy to spot once you recognize it. The problem is, until a man is able to recognize it, it's very effective.

"If you don't want to risk your future on me, you must be sCaReD!"

Impugn a man's manhood, and most of the time he'll do all kinds of things against his own rational self-interest to prove he's a Real Man™.

Learn to recognize this shit. Ask yourself, "what's in it for me?"

Anyway, red flag! *shot*

  • [photo with her kid in it]

Irresponsible parent! Red flag! *shot*

*passes out*

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MelkorHimself Mod 2y ago

Sorry, I died from alcohol poisoning before I could finish reading.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

I forget the comedian who did this routine, but he said that white guys in horror movies get killed because they're not scared. They see a basement full of blood covered yard tools and go "I wonder what's in the back there?" and wander on in while the more pragmatic and practical street smart guy would go "Er, I'm out of here!"

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I wish white women cared about black men as much as they care about black dick.

Edit: As a black man, invariably when I run into these types, it's only a matter of time before the racism comes out. They don't give a shit about black men as people, they see us as a fetish. It's always - fucking always - one of the following:

  1. They struck out with the white men they want, and they think that black men are a lower tier of men

  2. They have a fetish for our allegedly huge cocks (newsflash: there is no difference). Fun fact, that stereotype is based in racism.

  3. They need the power in the relationship. A white woman knows that she has damn near infinitely more social power than a black man and will use it to dominate him in the relationship.

  4. They are intentionally looking for Tyrone. I get this a lot...women see the scar on my face and the muscles and assume I'm a thug. When they find out I'm not, they become uninterested.
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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago

You're 100% correct brother. And when their racism comes out, their defence is "I can't be a racist....I date black men!" Well, having a fetish doesn't prove that you are not a racist.

It's probably got a lot to do with control. They think that they can control the black man easily - its quite colonial thinking if you think about it long enough.

I would say its the same with white men that fetishize Asian women. They are usually quite beta / weak men. They think its going to be easier to control an Asian women, because they are more submissive. I would imagine some of them get a nasty surprise!

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chadinthemaking69 2y ago

Do you know anything about black girls only dating white guys? Is this the same principle?

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2y ago

I think its a different dynamic. Black women that only date white men are obviously looking to improve their social status. A white male is higher status in their eyes. It may also be the only time way they see of getting into a societal class where people are educated. Please don't shoot the messenger but they (black women only dating white men) are looking to lighten the skin tone of their children, perhaps because they have seen first hand how much harder it is for 100% black people in society. You might call them racist, but maybe we shouldn't judge them. Everyone wants to reproduce, and everyone wants the best for their children.

They may also have negative views on black men, because of the media and hip hop culture that casts black men as dangerous gangstas.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I can't really speak to that as I'm neither a black woman nor a white man and, for that reason, don't have firsthand experience.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

I heard from my Los Angeles attorney back in the 1990's that he had heard from the grapevine that Nicole Simpson had called OJ the N word several times (and not in a nice way). It puzzled me greatly as to why a woman, knowing that a guy is strong enough to hurt you, would thoughtlessly provoke him. I’ve seen this with white women as well who like to complain that they need a man to protect them but yet they play with fire.

There’s different types of masculine energy: Mature men project strength via competence but do not engage in provocation, particularly thoughtlessly. There’s always a chance that some idiot will take you up on it and drag you into a mess. Tall, buffed men generally were the most polite men I had ever met. On the other hand, there’s the gangsters who look to pick fights to show off their “strength”

In masculine terms, a guy who picks fights and then gets beaten up and cries about it is viewed as pathetic but that’s what many women like to do “He hit a girl!” So all these women are doing is copying the worst behaviors of the weakest of men and calling themselves “strong women.”

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

It's actually a noticable trend in women: whenever they call themselves "strong" they are emulating masculine behavior

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I actually saw that white men are marginally larger in a study (though I don’t think there was statistical significance FWIW). Either way, you’re right that black dudes aren’t packing heat any different than white dudes. It’s a crude and incorrect stereotype.

I think 3 is changing a little, though. Online dating stats, for example, black dudes are neck and neck with white dudes in terms of desirability to women. So if she thinks that she’s some irresistible option for a black dude, she’s sorely mistaken. A black dude with his crap together and looking good will have women from basically all races interested in him.

My money is on the fetish option. I mean she even uses fetishizing language in her first sentence. The other one is the fact that she has a biracial kid, so she’s pre-rejecting white guys who would want nothing to do with her (if a dude is going to date a single mom, they are least want people to believe that the kid is theirs; biracial kid means that everyone knows you’re the cleanup guy).

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

A black dude with his crap together and looking good will have women from basically all races interested in him.

This is true. It is also, ironically, why you see successful black men dating out. Black women have it in their heads that we date out once we become successful because we hate black women. It's actually due to three factors that play off one another:

  1. Most black women are at the bottom of the dating hierarchy due to their weight, masculinity, and overall inability to get along with men.

  2. Once a black man is successful, the traits that make him successful overcome the stigma associated with black men and his dating opportunities expand to the upper tiers of all groups of women.

  3. Other groups of women understand that men worth a shit are rare and are unafraid to compete for those men. This results in them being better partners.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Basically. Kevin Samuels woke me up to how bad things truly are in the black community with the women. You could present a 19 year old black woman with a 27 year old man with a house, top 5% income, a nice car, good physical fitness (basically Russell Wilson without the cringe), and they’d still be more likely to manage to end up chasing after Pookie because Russell v2.0 is “boring”, getting knocked up, getting no child support because Pookie did what Pookie does (which is get himself thrown in the slammer for something he totally didn’t do, I swear), and then blame men for all of their problems. It’s matriarchal and totally chaotic.

Kevin also mentioned that there’s like 2m more black men married than black women in America (when you factor in that there’s around 15m black men and 15m black women in America of marriageable age, that’s a huge number).

Pre red pill, I was over here throwing a woe is me party because I thought dealing with white chicks was a mess. It is a mess, but at least it’s not a bunch of nearly 200 lb baby mamas whose sole mission in any interaction with men is to assert themselves in the dominance hierarchy. Because why would they take direction and inspiration from someone with economic opportunities and a healthy lifestyle and a lack of psycho baby mamas?

Personally I’ve dated black women twice (albeit African, not black American). One was all about the strong and independent bullshit. The other seemed to think her presence was worth hundreds of dollars per date (where sex wasn’t going to be the outcome BTW, that would take months). Just nuts. It’s like the only acceptable man is a giga-Beta CEO.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Successful black men are, generally, boring as hell. We're that way because we can't get away with the shit that white men get passes for, so we have to keep our heads down. That lends our habits to the boring side and the worst thing you can be to a woman is boring. Pookie is exciting and chaotic because Pookie has nothing to lose and rarely suffers consequences for his actions.

As far as the matriarchal structure, black women were conditioned and given incentives to keep black men out the home, so we have an entire generation raised under a matriarchal structure, one with no respect for men. Literally no other group in the united states has this problem.

The numbers he was talking about was how there are 2M more black women than black men in America, so if EVERY black man got married, there would still be two million black women without husbands. To put it in perspective, the city of San Antonio has a population of 1.5M.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

When I was single and came across a non-white chick who fetishized me, I only cared insofar as it disqualified her from anything serious.

I'd still enjoy the bang and/or fling.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Been there before, too. Dated a Ugandan chick for a little while that only wanted to date white guys. I don’t hate on racial preferences; you like what you like and you shouldn’t feel bad about it. But there’s something odd about excluding your own group of people to me.

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ZZoMBiE13 2y ago

Damn, she got some crazy eyes. Know what I mean, gents?

Like a damn bug that eats its mate after copulating.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 2y ago

I date black men.

​Is this the so-called white privilege?

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

This my friend, is the example of the female hive-mind in action. Have white women dated black men before? Sure, but now with media and every other channel pushing the idea that the 'normal' couple is one that is bi-racial or whatever term they're using - women see this, and go "Okayyy, so now I'm shopping for black dick!" (The non red-pilled, that is.)

I see it everywhere, and it only became prominent in the last couple years, which coincides with the push to popularize it, along with "The Message".

What bothers me isn't that a white chick is with a black dude - what really blows my top is how you can see the shift in the majority of female thinking to match precisely what is being pushed on society. I know, its AWALT writ large, but it still kills me as a rational man that has his own individuality.

Also, happy Thanksgiving you beautiful bastards.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

It’s abnormal to exclude your own kind. It basically is a fetish for black men. That’s bizarre. That’s coming from a dude in a bi-racial relationship (my girl is Latina and mixed race like a lot of Latinas, I’m white as snow). I’m not “only dating darker skinned Latinas”, it’s just how it worked out.

Of course, it’s also possible that white men simply aren’t going to touch her anymore because she has a biracial kid. Even more blue pilled dudes tend to want people to think that the kid could possibly be his. Everyone is going to know that’s not his.

So, rather than face rejection from white men, she “pre-rejects” them in favor of going from Tyrone A to Tyrone B.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I think so. A mentally ill single mother is forever going to leave all of us alone in favor of trying to torture our black hombres.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Torture Tyrone.

Women like that don't fuck with black men like me.

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Initial-Glove Wahmyns 2y ago

Thank God, though, right?

You can tell that this one is a nag and a ball buster. She doesn't want a man, she wants a minion. The thug with a heart of gold for her and only her.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Which is why she will continue to be run through by the bottom 30% of black men, and then look back on her life like "where are all the good men?"

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Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago

Alpha female with bitch face and mental illness, seeks a dominant male to compete with and win his full - undivided - attention.

Sounds like she's perfect wife material

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Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

Competitive? More like combative. Why doesn't she save even more time and state that she is looking for an abusive situation, both give and take?

Whatever happens, do not let her lose: her mental illness gives her the perfect alibi for any violence. "I was triggered!"

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago

The first red flag is that her profile pic is she's holding a glass of wine and taking a selfie in what is probably nightclub restaurant. The rest of them have her in a car or out partying.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

taking a selfie in what is probably nightclub restaurant.

Worse: in the bathroom.

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DextroShade 2y ago

That's probably where her thugspawn was conceived.

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wswZtyqNGQ 2y ago

If you ever wonder who takes a glass of wine into the bathroom, think of this skank. (It's even better when you see that she doesn't even know how to hold the fucking glass.)

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

she doesn't even know how to hold the fucking glass

Eh, that whole "hold it by the stem because your body heat affects the wine's temperature" thing is a crock of shit. The ambient temperature will affect it far faster, and even then, if it affects it much, it's because you're letting it sit too long without drinking it.

That, and many stems of wine glasses are more brittle than one would expect (especially in ogre/gorilla hands like mine).

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I'm of two minds about this. The cardinal sin here is that her glass is WAY too full to be sophisticated.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Hah, I didn't even notice. you're right.

I've turned into a workaholic and homebody over the years, and at home, we fill our glasses like that because why be sophisticated as shit when it's just the two of us?

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

You're at home. IMHO, you're retired. You've earned the right to do whatever the fuck you want.

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chadinthemaking69 2y ago

The thousand cock stare is very prominent in this one. The funny thing is she will still have hundreds of men in her dms, including my horny ass.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I feel like this is the kind of woman that Chad would slide into the DMs of, just for the challenge of getting her to “convert” back to white guys, blow her back out, and then ghost her. Judging by the fact that she’s a single mom, being treated well is low on her list of key characteristics when she’s looking for a man.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

You're close but not quite - her highest priority is being treated like the dog shit that she is. That's what gives her the tingles. Being treated well would give her the dry.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

You’re right. She wants to be punished for her bad decisions. Nothing like a man that won’t even remember her kid’s name to remind her of what she deserves.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2y ago

Pump-and-dump only, bud.

Wait, aren't you white? Pfft, you have no chance with this mudshark.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I'm reminded of this thread where the black guys were like "naw, we all good. The Mexicans can have her". And the Mexicans were like "Naw, we all good. The Asians can have her" and it went on and on.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I saw that. It was a butter golem who thought her ass was "too much" for white men.

There is nothing I hate more than fat bitches who think they have good asses when it's - in reality - a fat ass.

Fuck I was gonna take today as a rest day but I'm going to the gym now. Fucking fat people ruin my mood.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

I hear that. My fitness instructor is making me up my workout days to 4x/wk. I literally have to work out half my body while the other half is resting. AND he's making the workouts way more intense.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago

That's solid. People ask me how I go to the gym every day.

I work different muscle groups and get enough protein and calories to make it count.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Ya I began cutting calories in order to lose weight and it’s been devastating on my lifts. But at least I can run well again.

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But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.

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