Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago Stickied
This is why I coined the word Inspin (involuntary spinster). When a guy with low Sexual Market Value complains about his lack of success getting sex, he's labeled an "Incel" and mocked. When a woman with low Marriage Market Value complains about her lack of success getting married, she gets sympathy.
Not only are humans hard-wired to try to solve women's problems, but it can be hard to see how much she has in common with a fat, smelly, uncouth, basement dwelling dweeb because a woman can have a high SMV while also having a very low MMV. She's not an inspin because she's not pretty enough, or because she's too pretty or too interesting or too smart. She's an inspin because she walked away from the man she chose when she had the most to offer.
Initial-Glove Wahmyns 1y ago
I typically stop these videos early on, I can't take the lack of awareness. I'm glad I kept it playing bc she said the magic words. "I broke up with him". Yep. All of these stories are the same.
So she had an opportunity to not be in this position but couldn't stop her "inner slut" from busting out. She didn't want to submit and settle down and live what she sees as a boring life. Kids. Family. Day in, day out routine. She thought the world offered more. Hindsight is a bitch.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied
Hey, this French chick again? She's an absolute goldmine of WAATGM material so far!
That 9 year relationship she mentioned was most likely her best and only chance at a marriage, and she discarded it.
I guarantee that as attractive as she still is at her age and with her I've-been-crying-waaah face, she could have had ANY MAN AT ALL back when she was in her teens, twenties, and maybe even early thirties.
Lurking women: THIS is what happens when you continue to play "musical dicks" and the music stops.
And with forums such as this one opening men's eyes, the songs are getting shorter and shorter.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
You can see it creeping in, the lines around the eyes, the "turkey neck" starting to be more prominent when she talks/turns her head.
Yep, just a year or so before she becomes completely invisible to the men she wants.
You can bet she was a hot-as-hell knockout in her 20's. And she burned through all that, and now looks like the end of a masticated cigar. But she'll never "settle". Too funny, really. Who spends nine years and throws it away? Oh right, this bitch.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, probably because hombre wanted a family and she”wasn’t ready” and needed to ExPeRiEnCe LiFe.
Just wait until you reach the pinnacle of your quota hire potential and start to see your looks decline, ladies. You’ll see that the single life doesn’t offer unlimited potential. If that’s the time you start looking for your forever man, then buy a dog and die alone as a wise man once said.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Women would do well to realize that there is a point in their life where the decisions they have left to make aren't about improving their position, it's about not wasting what position they have left.
They'll never get younger, more attractive, or more fertile. Trading up is no longer an option, and the passage of time is just a steady accrual of baggage and age that will do them no favors.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
She is quite an enigma. I’ve never heard someone’s voice be both attractive and repulsive at the same time. It’s easy to tell that she thinks incredibly highly of herself. Her impact with the wall happened years ago and police are just now responding to the scene. She’ll probably figure it out soon…….right?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I doubt it. She's still attractive enough for a pump and dump or even a short-term fling, and women don't realize that men might be perfectly willing to fuck a woman they'd never commit to.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Men will share women for sex, as evidenced by the existence of prostitution, but women will share men for relationships. At least once women blow their chance to secure a HVM and become relegated to concubine status. If they don’t like it, then they can either be with the men that no woman wanted or die alone. Which are basically her options at this point: being the side chick for an attractive man when he’d like the variety of being talked dirty to in French when he’s in London for the night, being with a man that she’d have never even considered just 10 years ago, or being alone. Have fun!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied
Over the past several years, more men in that situation are waking up and saying "no thanks".
Hell, 2 of the items from our "recommended reading" section on our sidebar are about this. Check them out:
Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
and Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
That’s true. While it’s far from impossible for her to pull that off, it’s getting harder. Had an argument in a discord that I’m in because I stated that there’s nothing a MILF offers that a virgin can’t offer within 3 months of being with you, there’s still some guys that have the programming. But fortunately, there’s less as we go on.
Clearview Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I couldn't resist to post her again, its pure gold!!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
It really is. I stickied your post here, and hope one of my fellow mods does the same on reddit (depending on something else maybe taking precedent this weekend).
Tag @moorekom
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Since we had the interview questions post stickied for the last couple of days, I have stickied this today.
cc: @clearview.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
That's what I was referring to by:
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 1y ago
Kevin has his post stickied for now. We can pin this one Monday.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Deep???
You aren't deep. You aren't even shallow!!! ~TFM
HmoobMikah 1y ago
Wow. It's nice seeing someone mention Turd Flinging Monkey around here. Just started following him again a few months ago. Man oh man, do I miss watching him. Now I can't get enough of him.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If a woman is over 35 and unmarried, you can rest assured that she's been getting railed weekly by random men
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
And she probably assumes that they’re all just F boys and holds out that she’ll find “the one”. Unaware that when most of those dudes drop off, it’s because they found a hotter, younger one that’s actually worth more than just a smash and dash.
lonewolf1 1y ago
This worn out hag is coping hard. You can tell she tries to appear naive and innocent, all the men are so evil and she is an angel. I believe she makes up stories to be perceived as the victim. But she fully understands why men are not going for her and do not want that baggage. She is trying to cater to the beta billys who will try to save her from her suffering.
She is playing the victim to have the last chance to find her beta provider on the online dating market.
She made the wrong choices, several times, and is now facing the cold truth.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Make no mistake, brother... she's not looking for BetaBucks: she wants an AlphaBucks. She's probably not going to get one at her age unless she's willing to go for a man who is a decade (or more) older than she is who has decided to settle down.
(I say "probably" because I know two guys like that: guys who used to be hard-core players who were open to stability in their 50s. Both of them married attractive women who dote on them and are significantly younger than they are.)
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I am already going for a decade younger in my mid 30’s lol. If I’m going to deal with what comes with being in a committed relationship, then it better come with far more attractive and well rounded women than what I could get by showing some bar slore a nice car.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
She is finding out the hard way that sex will get a man but sex wont keep a man. A lot of women today conflate a mans sexual desire with his desire to commit.
Wrong. Guys desire sex so much that in the olden days we would marry you to get sex. For most of the male population to get sex, (Chad is always the exception. Throughout history, Chad is gonna Chad) we had to marry you. Now the floodgates are opened. Many guys, even upper tier Betas are finding out they can get laid and not have to commit.
These are the the same women that have been preaching since the 60's that a woman can fuck and have adventures and a high body count just like a man. Nevermind that the men they are comparing themselves to are the top tier top 20% of men. Sex with randos mean nothing and you shouldn't judge BUT the sex she has with you all of a sudden mean something. Now it's sex in exchange for your commitment, and HOW DARE YOU not commit after giving you sex.
In other words, sex with randos(like the club bouncer that she tried first anal with in the alley behind the club)means nothing, sex with you comes with a price which is your commitment. When you dont commit, she feels ripped off. "I gave you sex for nothing????"
My advice to her would be "why are you upset? It's just sex. you have had many flings and one night stands before, so look at it like that. Another adventure in your journey of life"
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
This is why she will have to either settle for one of her beta orbiters, or die alone.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Got as far as the preview panel and I can already tell why. Full on crazy eyes and hagmarks abound, no reason for men to stay if they want to keep their bunny unboiled.
Pfizer 1y ago
I have listened without prejudice and: where is your male familly to ask them for piece of advice, why so much attention grabbing from randos on internet and yes why full on crazy eyes (in separate cut?), but not speaking to.a real person but talking to electronic Device - you got to be in a different world in a head to put this kind of show to mobile.
I just imagine that. You talk your heart out to piece of plastic in your hand, aaround is only emptiness no real person to listen, then you go and hit upload and then you wait for anonymous people empty attention. So fucking empty.
I dont know anything about her, she could lie about past or be genuine, I wouldn't know for a long time it would just rise the flags. But as the matter of present time above would be my first brow rising things.
Peter_Henderson 1y ago
This is why women shouldn't "put off" getting married. They should start trying to find a husband around age 21-22.
Everpax 1y ago
Broke off a 9-year relationship because she thought she could do better, has multiple beta orbiter friends she considers beneath her, and will keep spreading her legs for men that see her as nothing more than a one-time ride. I'm sure it'll work the 200th time, just keep trying.
wswZtyqNGQ 1y ago
I admire your naiveté in thinking that it's only her 200th time.
Everpax 1y ago
Honestly the count doesn't really matter once it gets to double digits, could be 200 or 10,000 and I'd feel the same way about it.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
The biggest hit to a young woman's MMV - by far - is not when her n-count goes from nine to ten (the threshold for double digits)... it's when it goes from zero to one. That one factor alone turns the ten-year divorce risk from "unlikely" to the same odds as a coin flip.
Everpax 1y ago
Yeah, I've seen the statistics you're referencing, but I'm not looking to get married either way. Besides, it's not like there's an abundance of virgins to pick from these days.
lemko1968 1y ago
Any guy worth a damn at her age is going for some hot young thang, not messing around with a worn-out hag like her. The only guys she’s gonna get is guys in their seventies or old, fat ugly dudes, skinny short wimpy dudes, deadbeats looking for a meal ticket, scammers, and butch lesbians.
PoopBeast 1y ago
Now THAT'S a narcist!
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"I don't know, maybe it's me..."
proceeds to brag about all her great qualities and accomplishments
"Dating stinks in 2022..."
It's going to get worse... for you. Your value goes down with every year that passes and every guy you date. You can't understand this and that's why you will continue to get more and more bitter. You're going to be that old single lady with a ton of cats and a hatred of all men.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
She's 40, and she bailed out of a nine-year erzatz marriage long enough ago to surrender to despair. That means that her entire previous experience in the mating market was as a stunningly beautiful woman in her prime. No wonder she's so confused and frustrated.
Everything about her situation may be ascribed to the fact that she doesn't know the difference between her SMV and her MMV.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I used to encounter women like this when I traveled. You know, the Ubud yoga retreat chicks... the Russian girls gone wild in Kuta... the Aussie gawkers in the Poppies or Pattaya. I'm guessing this chick is French based on her accent. She's definitely not British. She mentions the British guy. These women isolate themselves from good guys and strictly place themselves around bad guys. The fit Balinese yoga instructor has an endless parade of Western hoes to pump and dump. The hot Balinese surfer dude also has a dozen Russian hotties waiting in line. Meanwhile the other 95.5% of men on the planet are invisible to them.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I’m sorry. I shouldn’t laugh at the suffering of others, but this chick really checked those boxes off.
A nine year relationship, starting in her 20’s. So basically a marriage without the legal status. She left him. Why? Well, she just wanted something else now! The man that she attracted at her SMV and MMV peak, she threw away with the narcissistic notion that he could be replaced.
Also, she has so many male friends who think she’s great (aka beta orbiters). But she once again tells on herself. She doesn’t want THOSE guys. They’re just friends! She needs the prized man. The man that all of the women want.
Well, if every woman wants that guy, then he is choosing from every woman. Doesn’t matter how pretty you are, there’s someone else who is prettier. Doesn’t matter how good of a sense of humor that you have, someone has a better one. It’s like in medieval times where scores of knights would compete in contests that could leave them badly injured or even killed, to get a piece of the king’s beautiful 18 year old daughter. Except now, these 40 year old women are competing for a piece of that wealthy and handsome man. Doesn’t matter if you’re a knight of a woman, because you’re competing against many other knights, and only the best is standing at the end.
My recommendation for her is simple: either go date one of those orbiters that you claim to love, or buy a dog and die alone as a great man said. She should’ve stayed with the man in her 20’s if emotional connection was so important to her.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Lots of gold in this video and great comments and yours ticked off an observation I made about "courtship" which literally has "court" in the name, as in royal court. Knights fought to impress courtly women because this was hypergamy... for the men! In modern parlance, imagine a sergeant winning the favor of Bill Gates' daughter and getting a mansion and fortune to live off of.
It's a guess, of course, but it sounds like the guy she was shacked up with for a decade didn't want kids and her clock went off and she cut bait to move on and tried to date men to pursue marriage and children quickly. As the saying goes: "lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part". The courtship is reversed in that case with the men wanting to be wooed.
Another option she has, and it's worth stating for women who may read this is to do what normal men must in a competitive marketplace: She can better develop and market herself, learn how to make approaches, handle bone crushing rejection, and put aside romantic delusions. If she is truly sincere in desperately wanting a family, I wouldn't mind seeing her get through this.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I didn’t notice that she mentioned family. Obviously more sympathy if she’s facing the bone jarring reality that she’s failed to procreate. But then again, like you said, not our problem that you wasted your best years on a dude who wasn’t going to make you a wife and mother. This should be a topic of conversation within weeks of dating. Even as a man, I don’t want to waste time with a woman who has different goals about something as vital as children.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Give it another listen. It sounds like he wanted to get married, but she said clearly that she foolishly ended it because "goals change".
She wasn't very specific, but my educated guess is that he wanted to make her a wife and mother, and she chose career.
Tag: @polishknight
Initial-Glove Wahmyns 1y ago
Thay was my take. Dude was probably tired of her dragging her feet about growing up and becoming serious about them. Marriage, kids, mortgage, day in day out monotony of lunches, PTA and soccer practice and actually having something to live for. Not for her! Not this wild one! She's got a life to live! Tie her up but don't tie her down!!
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Even worse. I couldn’t imagine choosing sucking off the corporate tit over a family. Kind of offers more proof of my theory: when men make a lot of money, families happen, but when women get a lot of money, consumption and spending happens.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
I'm thinking we can't take at face value what this woman says. She says she broke up but women often find a way to rationalize dumping him if they think he's moving on or vice versa. From her tone, it sounds as if she's miserable because she hasn't been able to "level up"
A friend's daughter married a guy in their 20's and all went well but she wanted to become a full professor and he wanted to have kids before their 30's and that largely led to their breakup. So I can see this happening in that women become addicted to their careers while the man realizes that her biological clock (not necessarily his) is ticking and he wants her to do something about it.
Maybe her primary problem is that she still wants to live in her 20's indefinitely and she's hitting generational passages: The guys she's attracted to are looking for young women to have kids with or even just fool around and the older ones who have kids or don't want them she isn't attracted to.
I think also she perhaps never had a period similar to what us men did when we were on our own. Women in their youth are not lonely unless they're lazy or unattractive but now she's getting a tiny taste of the social isolation us men experience since puberty. Not just from men, but women are harsh about ostracizing less-than-youthful looking women.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah it’s hilarious that so many women complain about age discrimination, but were ignoring the men their own age at 21 in favor of the 30 year old dude with a Merc and a $200k a year income.
Initial-Glove Wahmyns 1y ago
No, I don't think so. Women who want kids will often find themselves "in a family way" and force the guy's hands. Especially after 9 years.
I don't think she was ready to settle down/settle. She thought she had more time to be young and be wanted and desired.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I've witnessed this with my own eyes--women who are extremely attractive in their early twenties and are used to getting hit on by guys who are 9's and 10's. They just think that being desired by attractive guys is how their life is because it's all they have ever known. They are always convinced someone better is out there along with hard parting with booze and drugs. When she is older and her looks wane and they all begin to realize the errors of their ways.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
And all too often long after unrecoverable damage to their prospects has already been done.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
... And when your looks are gone and you're alone,
How many nights you sit beside the phone.
What were the things you wanted for yourself?
Teenage ambitions you'll remember well....
It was the heat of the moment...
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
I bet most of the people here are too young to catch that lol
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
I'm just going to say it:
Music peaked in the 80s.
Fight me.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Pop music? Sure.
Rock? No way. Rock was better both in the 1970s and 1990s.
What good rock came from the 1980s? All that comes to mind is Van Halen, Metallica, Guns n' Roses, and REM.
1970s had Pink Floyd (though they really started in the 1960s), Led Zeppelin, the Guess Who, the Doors, the Eagles, and the list goes on.
1990s had Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Fuel, Tonic, Fastball, Soundgarden, Pantera, and Type O Negative.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If she was any of those things she claimed she would not find herself in the recycle bin.
Honey, that bitterness you are experiencing is called consequence. Welcome to a man's world.