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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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Paltry_Poetaster 4y ago
So lovely to know the future of the human race is in good hands
Rick264 4y ago
I am so surprised , I imagined that she friend zoned a lot of good men , but luckily for her , those friend zoned men grew some self respect and found good women. Now she wants to settle , be a mom , be married . so the phrase "happy wife happy life " but she is attracted to attractive narcissistic fuck boys who don't want to marry her and a bonus emotionally unavailable. But since she has no one to blame while not blame youuu.
YesYesYesVeryGood 4y ago
Please woman, do not rope a child into your shitty life plans.
That's a case of pre-meditated child abuse.
SquirtBurt 4y ago
I love her self dates list. Literally just eating dinner at home is an accomplishment for her. Plus watching TV and drinking while doing it.
Like wouldn’t this have already been her normal routine anyways? Eating and laying around? It’s not like she was training for a decathlon before this. How sad.
veepalz 4y ago
Yeah I especially like how building the best version of yourself includes drinking a bottle of wine alone.
Martellus732 4y ago
Eating & drinking alone...welcome to the life of the bottom 90% of single men, fucking bitch.
FlowComprehensive390 4y ago
And so the next generation of criminal thug or wanton slut comes into being. The relationship between single motherhood and lifelong negative outcomes for the child is so strong that it is almost assuredly a causal one.
PopularBug5 4y ago
TLDR;
Woman is promiscuous and disloyal. She mates with her counterparts who are also promiscuous and disloyal. Surprise pikachu face she is an inspin.
Decides to have a child alone while living the yolo cock carousel rider lifestyle thus depriving her of a real job and stability to raise said child.
HeftyAdministration8 4y ago
Off-topic rant: where did this "I need to be happy alone before I can be happy with someone" bullshit come from? One of my friends is deep into it too.
HowDoIGetToHyrule 4y ago
I'd argue that being a well-adjusted individual with a solid self-identity is essential to being part of a prosperous partnership.
Somehow I think that part got lost in translation here though ;)
In their case it's no different than saying they need to "find themselves".
WingJeezy 4y ago
Because until you fix yourself, there’s no point in seeking a partner because if you can’t offer your best self, why should they enter into a relationship with you?
HeftyAdministration8 4y ago
WJ, thanks for the answer! "You" here is the generic "you", not WJ.
If you have severe psychological trauma or need medication, sure, take care of that. Outliers aside: waiting until you declare yourself completely healed, content, and now a relationship can come find you? To me, that doesn't sound like a good way to go. I don't think I'd ever meet that standard. I don't think my friend will either. But hey, you do you.
Traksimuss 4y ago
Which is nice as idea, but most women are unable to look deep into themselves to fix them.
Men are forced to do that by life and society.
WingJeezy 4y ago
I think people in general have a hard time with self improvement since it’s unpleasant to face the reality that is you with the problem and not everybody else.
People who are comfortable with themselves, make or female, generally don’t have a hard time finding partners.
Traksimuss 4y ago
Not really, no.
It goes back to evolutionary pressure and women being human beings and men being human doings.
Evolution success means you had a progeny that carried you genes forward. Women had 80% success rate, while men only 40%.
Women are the stable part of the evolution, hence why they are so similar in character, IQ and rest of things. They just have to be there to wait on the guy to become pregnant, there is no pressure to improve themselves. For any woman failing, there is government or man to pick her up and carry her on. How many women shelters are there and how many shelters for men?
For guys, we are unpredictable part of evolution. We have much higher variety in IQ and behaviour, we are ading unpredictability to genes when man is born. We must perform or society deems as useless. We always had to perform - spotting and killing that tiger in a bush, organizing food and shelter. When we make mistakes, society often writes us off immediately. There is almost no support for men to get back on feet, in best case there is limited support. So we have extreme evolutionary pressure to improve ourselves, or we are written off and do not take part in having our next generation.
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Traksimuss 4y ago
Lol sure.
40% and 80% is scientifically proven fact.
Evolutionary pressure in all animals is also quite proven. Looks at ths wolves on island who have learned to swim for food and catch fish.
Or elephants in Africa - poachers do not kill elephants with small / damaged horns, so each generation their horns get smaller.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
This is not a debate sub and you are not his master. Understand that any request you make to anyone else, in real life or online, should be asked with humility.
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STROOONG WOMAAAAN
lanocheoscura 4y ago
and she wasn't even 1 year alone in her life. There are a lot of men who don't even go into dates for more than 1 year.
baldestpianoman 4y ago
Or all their life
warlocc_ 4y ago
That jumped out at me too. I laugh at women that say shit like that. There are men literally holding up our society that haven't even talked to a woman for that long, or longer.
peguy2000 4y ago
Truly sad what decade long propaganda did to women. I believe she really couldve been happy if not for all the lies shes been fed.
I really hope she doesnt bring another child and traumatize it.
Hunk_Maggot 4y ago
wtf this is your fucking doing, this is your fucking fault, YOU ARE SO FUCKING TOXIC THAT ACTUALLY YOU BROKE YOURSELF
You are not a red flag, you are a the definition of hell for men...
BadSpanglish2 4y ago
Then watch her claim child benefit when she cant afford a child on a single salary. Not to mention government subsidised nursery and education, which will only be paid back by the taxes of a single parent.
WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 4y ago
Jesus fucking Christ.
It would be sad if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Why is it always cats?
Terrible choice. This child will grow up never knowing his or her father. And of course, kids that grow up in two parent households are statistically far better off than those with single parents.
Easy to say until it comes time to actually do it.
Your friends are right. Listen to them.
Absolute train wreck. No doubt she, like most other women, rejected plenty of good men who would be great husbands and fathers but she went for the bad boy or the guy she couldn’t let go of because tingles. Oh well.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
My theory is that dogs require your attention. You have to take care of them and in return, they will pour affection onto you. Cats come and go. They do not require the level of affection or attention a dog might demand or need. This reflects her choice in dating strategy as well. She is used to men who are aloof. So, cats it is.
V_M 4y ago
Woman-like level of loyalty.
"I have pretty fur, so you have to provide all my needs"
Dogs and humans act like frat bros. Cats and humans act like sorority sisters.
DemonFromWalmart 4y ago
Because dogs are WORK. You can't just shut them into your hipster apartment.
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Women treat children like accessories. I'm scared for what the world will be like in 20-30 years when all these emotionally disabled bastard children are going to be running the show.
plz_say_sike 4y ago
This is the end result of feminism, daddy government and the msm telling everyone the past 5 years that single moms are strong & independent and fathers are no longer needed. There’s going to be a lot of neglected children in the future. Time to invest in private prisons!
Edit: there will also be a lot of pressure on the brothers, cousins, uncles, dads of the single moms to “man up” and act as a father figure to these kids
kidruhil 4y ago
She doesn't disclose her priorities and plans on her dates huh? Lol I'm sure every dude she meets is getting grilled harsher than a secret service special agent on his background investigation. And that's on date 1. Guaranteeing that any decent and above average dude she manages to trick into a date will immediately ghost after he correctly reads the crazy vibes she's putting out. And only losers will stick around for 2+ dates which she'll hate.
She'll inevitably have to settle with one of those losers but will prob get preggo from the ghosting Chad's. And will lie and tell the loser the baby is his.
CaptainEdMercer 4y ago
Imagine growing up, and for your entirely life, when someone asks you who your Father is... and your truthful answer is "I have no idea, my parents never even met".
This woman, bringing another human into the world just to cheer herself up during her mid-life crisis. There are no words for how self-centered and selfish she is.
davisyoung 4y ago
My sister did this at age 39. Except it wasn’t a turkey baster, she just got knocked up by some guy she was seeing at the time. He was not father material, as evidenced by him leaving the country when he found out, but she just wanted the seed. Totally selfish on her part, and her kid has all the problems of not having a father around outside of trouble with the law, fortunately.
NickTesla2018 4y ago
Where's Chad?!
Self date? That's most regular guys most of the time.
In the old days, when puppies magically appeared, we called it a "milkshake" dog. No telling who the father(s) was / were. : ( Spay and neuter, your humans and pets.
jmpires 4y ago
Or maybe, slightly into the 22nd century, the kid just says “Wtf did your parents actually met each other??? How odd”
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
They are just going to train and condition society to never ask "sensitive" questions.
NohoTwoPointOh 4y ago
And that's where we are, aren't we? Filled with concepts like "my truth" and "I don't feel safe" when confronted with their own behavior and choices.
It only works because men allow it.
Stop. Call them on their shullbit.
skint_back 4y ago
Daddy is “sample #26876”
Fucking clown world man
Tap-Apart 4y ago
Sample #26876 is eugenics wet dream.
If more women do this, there's going to be some tough questions about why so many of these kids are tall, with blonde hair and blue eyes.
I'm going to be laughing my ass off as an old man seeing a bunch of woke hitler-youth clones.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago
To be fair, it's not that different from saying "my mom doesn't really know, she was on a Tinder binge".
lanocheoscura 4y ago
Wasn't there a post in this sub about a woman who got pregnant during a gangbang and she had no idea who the father was.
sony_anumo 4y ago
Even worse, imagine dating a woman for 2 years only for her to drop that "sorry i dont want you to be the father since you might leave me, so instead i want to have a random guy from the sperm bank to be the father, i hope you understand and want to raise this kid with me."
jzdelona 4y ago
I interpreted it as a plan to baby trap someone, and if that fails then do IVF.
plz_say_sike 4y ago
And of course if you say you’re uncomfortable with that or no longer want to be in the relationship, she’ll call you controlling, manipulative and abusive to everyone you both know
sony_anumo 4y ago
"this is exactly with i want to use the sperm bank and not you"
The_Meep_Lord 4y ago
That is pretty much most women’s mentality in the modern age.
“Sorry, you are just too amazing to get me at my best. Please wait until I am done with sex and love so I can love you the most.”
FizzleMateriel 4y ago
And after they’ve had the children of some other guy, who bailed or went to prison.
sony_anumo 4y ago
I just heard about a woman at work, whos sister got ivf then met her husband.
Imagine how cucked you must be to be that guy.
There is not even another man that left the woman and child, it is the woman wanting to have her own dadless child rather than having yours.
jmpires 4y ago
Plot twist, husband is the sperm donor!
z2k43dknm87 4y ago
Unpopular Hot Take: This may sound selfish and contradictory, but if the shoe were on the other foot, I might do it.
If I were to become single again (37M, LTR, never been married, no children), I have seriously thought about providing samples to a surrogate of my choice. I, alone, would determine/choose the donor and have fully parental custody with no legal ties.
I am more financially solvent than I have ever been in my life and I just don’t see the value of getting to married only to potentially have them ripped away and my assets divided if a divorce manifested.
Yes, it takes more than money/resources to raise a child. And yes, the child would be raised by a single parent. There will be an emotional quotient that will be left void by not having a maternal figure (a traditional married sense).
10 years ago, I would have never thought of this as an option. But now, I have seen more heartache and depression among my social circles than ever. I have, first hand, nursed my best friend from a suicide attempt because he was going to lose more and more custodial time with his children. I observed his situation spiral into depression - he is losing his will to live. I accompanied him through every single family court date and witnessed every heart-wrenching court order decreed by a biased female judge. This was a good, honest, faithful, kind man. Today, he is a shell of his former self.
Rough algebra, but about 70%-ish of my 25-40y old friends are divorced. Good people, honorable people. Responsible people. I have watched these people, stomped, spit on, mauled, and disassembled through family court.
Is this a bad reflection on me? Perhaps. But it’s also a bad reflection on what is now the modern dating norm. I absolutely disgusted and revolted in the current state of how society views most of this subreddit's posts as culturally accepting. The dating environment is in ruins. And while I am a bit ashamed that I would consider surrogacy as a nuclear option, it is what it is.
I’m not at those crossroads yet, but considering the alternatives, for me, I will not choose marriage. At least, not in the West.
edit: typos, sentence structure
upsidedownbackwards 4y ago
Doing better than me. I have one friend that is still married and they've only been going for 5 years. Everyone else in my life who got married (except my parents) are now divorced. All my uncles. My brother. Two of my really close friends, countless acquaintances. It's over 95% divorce rate in my life (37 years old).
There are a few exceptions. One friend's wife died of a heroin and benzo overdose leaving their kid without a mother. Another one didn't monkey branch to anther man as much as she monkey branched to heroin. She ran away to Florida with her dope dealer and it wasn't because she loved him more than her kids, she loved being high more than her kids. I consider her worse than a standard divorce.
But people don't understand why I'm so against any kind of LTR. Most of my friends are better people than me and they got screwed. I don't stand a chance. Luckily I'm tall enough where hookups aren't an issue when I am feeling hornballed.
FlowComprehensive390 4y ago
Single fatherhood is not associated with the same rate of lifelong negative outcomes for the child as single motherhood is and so this is a far less problematic path to consider.
vtec__ 4y ago
this is the worst part about it. solid guys who did what they were supposed to do and worked very hard at school/career/business whatever only to have it destroyed completely. mean while chad/tyrone the felon has multiple kids and tons of baby mammas and these guys are literally paying for it in their tax dollars.
Right_Hand_Of_Kurze 4y ago
Not a bad option. I have seen a bunch of friends after having children get gutted and have to move out of the house. I always considered if I woman did that to me I would take the kids and go to Iran with them..like a Lifetime Television for Women movie. My nuclear option is cloning and raising myself..like Jango Fett.
HappilyMrs 4y ago
I can absolutely understand why a man who wants to be a father would do so alone now. Do you have a close network of mother/sisters/aunts/female relatives who could help provide that role. Children grow up in two male parent families, I cant see how a single father family would be much different in terms of role models
IceCorrect 4y ago
You make excellent point . In eastern europe when it was norm that 3 generation lived nearby, so even when both parents works they can easly call grandpa to take care of child and leave child with cousing of aunt to play, beacuse they rly cared for your child and will do what best for it, not like payed nany. You need 2 parents to provide resurces and raise child, especialy in early age, if you dont have any type of family to help you in early age its most selfish and abusive.
frifrini 4y ago
You still think about the two genders as equals. You are missing the whole picture. You are a man, by definition your are a human doing. You produce more than you consume. Men, as a group, pay 100% of taxes, meaning during their lifetime men as a group pay more taxes than they use public money, their net result is positive. Men can live with very little, in fact most single men live in small appartements, with few furnitures and most of their spending is directly or indirectly correlated to impressing/seducing/dating women. Why do you buy that rolex/car/clothings ? At a biological level, it is to seek a mate. Most men who stay single for a long time accumulate wealth. Corporations know very well that men aren't consumers. This is the reason most retail shops have a very small space for men compared to the space for women. Men products cost less than women products. If you were married you would be expected to provide. You are the "Yang" the "plus" the "positive". Men are the builder, the providers they "input" "energy" into society, into the family. In the sexual act, men do more work than women, men are the one emitting the seed into the woman. Thus it is required that they consume little. We have evolved from men who procreated, and wich men procreated ? The ones who needed little so they could put more energy into women and children.
But if there's a Yang then there's a Ying.
Women are human beings, they consume more than they produce. Women as a group don't pay taxes, meaning during their lifetime women as a group pay less taxe than they use public money, their net result is negative. Women cannot live with little, in fact most single women live in bigger apartments than their single counterpart, with more furnitures and most of their spending comes from the direct or indirect monetisation of what is between their legs (be it through marriage, date, jobs like waitress at hooters, prostitution, Onlyfan etc...). To be woman is to exchange what is between ones leg for ressources, in a licit way or an illicit one. Most women who stay single for a long time accumulate debt. Corporations know women consume more than men. A married woman is not expected to provide, she is expected to consume. Women are the "Ying", the "minus", the "negative". Women are receivers, they receive men energy, consume it in order to carry children to term and take care of them when they are little. I' the sexual act women most stay passive, they "receive" men seeds and men "repeated pendulum swings". Women are made to receive and if they don't receive they are unsatisfied. Ideally they are supposed to receive in order to bear fruit after receiving. But that is if they aren't broken. A unbroken woman is like a impermeable vase, the "deposit" (in money, seed, efforts, attention etc... ) made by her man is "conserved and fruitful", like a fertile field. A broken woman is like a broken vase, no matter the amount of energy "deposit" you make it will leak and your efforts will be wasted like in a sterile field who despite the farmers efforts will never bear fruits.
The best women are those who hold onto their man deposit and use it to bear all kinds of fruits (not limited to children). Those women are a prized treasure for wich men may wage wars. The worst women are similar to a poisonous black hole, no matter what you feed it, it will never fill the bottomless void that dwell in their heart. And even if you force it to cough up some fruits those will be poisonous.
At a societal level this game of Yang and Ying, this constant transfert of energy from men to women to children who grow up into men/women is a cycle that repeat itself.
The plan of the devil, Satan and his capitalistic minions bent on destroying humanity and ravaging the Earth and it's bountiful environment is to break that circle. The reason so many men in the manosphere believe all women are like that is simple : All the women they see in their society are indeed like that. Because all women in the West have been left unchecked, and arrogance runs rampant in their heart. Yet women are but a tool for these Capitalists/billionaires/bankers mastermind behind the media, music, movies etc... Women aren't the winner in this feminist society, they are broken vases unable to hold men's deposits, unable to make it fruitful. They're tools to be disposed of as soon as their expiration date come (the wall), after wich they are left to rot with their cats. Nonetheless, the real target of this massive attack remain the men because, and i'm sure you understand it after reading up until now, men are the pillar of society and at the end of the day, the superior g/e/n/d/e/r.
Siddyf 4y ago
Based AF!
Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago
This.
[deleted] 4y ago
I'd argue human thievings.
Especially with welfare, alimony, child support, etc considered.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
u/loneliness-inc, what do you think about this being expanded and posted on r/whereallthegoodmenare?
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago
Yes. I think it's worth expanding into a post, explaining why men are no longer interested.
However, u/frifrini needs to consider two key points before he does so.
Don't speak in absolute terms, regarding that which is not absolute. Case in point: you say that 100% of taxes are paid by men (etc etc etc). This is not true. What is true is that the overwhelming majority of taxes and productivity is generated by men, but it isn't 100%. It's in the upper 90's, but not 100%. I understand the desire for emphasis, but you'll lose many curious minds this way.
frifrini 4y ago
You act like a woman ? Disrespecting people you don't know ? Why do you insult me ? You like my insight you read my insight, you don't like it you leave. You have critics on my insight you reply with respect. Don't force your atheism on me. And don't force your Capitalism on me i can be against the rich/banker/billionaires and still be for entrepreneurship. And if you are too brainwashed to not see the wrong the iber rich are doing to you that's your problem.
Very well i will be more precise. English isn't my first language. I am French.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
While you can express your opinions in the comment sections freely, when it comes to a post, you will have to mind the rules of the sub and the theme the sub is dedicated to. Our theme is very focused and we do not take any sides, especially in politics. If your post is to be allowed in r/whereallthegoodmenare, your commentary needs to be cut short and sanitized to fit the theme of the sub and the subject matter we want to showcase. While u/loneliness-inc might have been harsh with his critique, what he has conveyed is not wrong. The political/ class aspect of your comment does not belong there. If you were ok with making this into a post, you would have to stick to the theme of the sub and not go into tangents that has no place there.
That said, I understand that it is your comment and this can only be made into a post if you wish to make it into one. If you do not wish it, that is your choice and no one can force you to do it. But, for the post to be allowed, it does need to meet certain criteria.
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago
Respect is earned and you didn't earn it yet. No one insulted you personally, I took issue with a single - retarded - paragraph within an otherwise good comment.
If you can't handle constructive feedback, you're the one who will have to leave. Cut out the butthurt.
What??? Please explain where I pushed atheism on you. Please point out where I forced anything on you. I'll give you some leeway because English isn't your first language.
Lol. No you can't. You don't understand anything about economics. That's why you think that it's possible to have robust entrepreneurship without having billionaires and the massive inequality that comes with it.
Despite your lack of understanding of basic economics, you're still welcome here. Because this isn't a forum for economics, it's a forum for the understanding of dating economics. To understand how a woman's choices directly lead to her negative outcomes.
Therefore, your class struggles don't belong here. They're completely off topic. In addition to being stupid and wrong, they don't fit our theme. Please keep this shit out of here.
u/moorekom asked for my input into your comment. I gave my input. You don't like it. Now you have a choice: take the feedback like an adult or keep throwing tantrums until one of us bans you.
It's your choice.
frifrini 4y ago
I think anyone gifted with reason will see who's is acting with respect and who is not. But fair enough, you have the power and power is everything, a lesson i learned long ago and one you will learn soon enough anyway.
Have it your way, the day is yours.
frifrini 4y ago
It actually goes deeper than that but that's merely a reply to a comment. I live in France and it's 8 am here i must go to work. Tonight after work i'll see if i can write an essay in the sister sub.
Blogginginvicecity 4y ago
Take your time and do it right! That last paragraph was wonderful. Have a nice enough day at work.
melonmagellan 4y ago
She probably doesn't want to be honest and disclosure her decision because that would prevent paternity fraud.
SlumpyNuudles 4y ago
Or just don't have kids at all. It's a viable option.
Harry_Teak 4y ago
And this is why it's called "baby rabies." All rational thought is abandoned in pursuit of their goal.
You're already having a hard time finding a fella, you're already on the wine and you're already at two cats. Adding an instakid to the mix pretty much guarantees you a lifetime of continued singledom.
But in the end, it's her poor decision to make. The person I feel sorry for is the kid who will wind up being the focus of this gigantic pile of regret.
Alturius 4y ago
A senior manager where I work (in the UK) has done this very thing! She's in her early 30's, single, juggling a high power career with the desire for parenthood, but was trapped by hypergamy and paid the price. She had an epiphany moment and realised that she didn't have time to find a partner, settle down and start a family. Panic set in, so she went ahead with expensive insemination before her biological clock ran out. First attempts at implantation failed, but she did manage to conceive and go full term during Covid lockdown and is now a single mum.
Hypergamy is where women typically 'marry up'. However, in her case, her high income role automatically prices her out of the market, except for perhaps a handful of potential men, all of whom are most likely already taken, or, are hot and wealthy enough to pick and choose, playing the field with no intention of commitment.
This medical process is very expensive, so I don't think we will be seeing too many incidents like this, as the price means the procedure is beyond the reach of the vast majority of single women.
Balefirez 4y ago
I can’t stand to keep my own company so now I want to have a child to keep me company. For the child’s sake, I really hope she doesn’t go through with it.
thisisnotyourconcern 4y ago
I am not a religious man by any means, but there is a special place in hell reserved for people who knowingly deny their child a father.
Ayrab4Trump 4y ago
I am a slightly religious man and this woman seems to be getting her just desserts in this lifetime.
SnowWhitePigeon 4y ago
She needs to be happy alone. But also needs to create a hostage to force to love her so she can be happy alone. This is terrifying.
vtec__ 4y ago
there are plenty of guys who will dump their nut in her lol.
Saianna 4y ago
this monologue reads almost as good as anime villain explaining her backstory. In this case it's a cat-lady.
Jokes aside tho.. How damn sad her life has to be, if being alone was so destructive for her personality. I am alone for my whole life and i don't even realize that.... Well now i did.. where's my wine bottle and a cat.. Oh. wait.. I'm average, therefore uggo, man. Being alone is the default option. Nvm then. No point wasting cash on wine.
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polishknightusa 4y ago
Dating as we know it had a very narrow window for success: The dinner date where a family would allow a man to ply a woman with paid meals and this was normal because men had decent paying jobs while the workforce limited women legally only lasted from about 1910 to say 1960 before it started to crack. Watch the film Diner. There were women engaging in teasing or sleeping with chads even back then.
PopularBug5 4y ago
They reward men who have a stable of women to sleep around with, and who can go back to their 'HS sweethearts' or whoever the fuck whenever they want.
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I met my wife a couple of years before we had Instagram and tinder in the world. I shudder to think what younger guys have to deal with now. It’s just excessive spending, wanting to be drinking champagne on a yacht and fucking chads. Normal, hard working decent guys have become pariahs in the society they built. It’s fucking insane.
V_M 4y ago
Its collapsing. You get more of what you reward and less of what you punish...
NuclearTheology 4y ago
As your average chubby schmuck dating was hell. Most profiles were trying to draw traffic to their Instagram page, desperate single moms who would have never given me a second glance otherwise, or women looking for a free meal
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Did you find a good one or give up?
NuclearTheology 4y ago
I actually found an incredible one. Military vet, home owner, great relationship with her parents and content with life. I've since asked her to become my wife
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Congrats. Hope all goes well for you both.
Right_Hand_Of_Kurze 4y ago
WingJeezy 4y ago
I think you’re feeding into the social media idea of what dating is like now.
You get what you look for. If you go chasing after champagne/yacht girls, that’s what you’re going to get.
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I was talking more about the unrealistic expectations than the reality. Most young women want to live in a damn music video.
NohoTwoPointOh 4y ago
I agree up to the point of numbers.
The overwhelming majority of Tinderellas are either those types, top-bun clones, or rotund, run-stopping linewomen that are built for plugging the a-gap and limiting the other team's YPC.
If the above is "all that's there", then that is the reality of the dumpster dive known as Online Dating.
WingJeezy 4y ago
Depends on your area too.
Dating options here in Southern California are WAY better than they were when I lived in central Kentucky.
skint_back 4y ago
So stunning and brave
f3wl 4y ago
Alcoholic plus wall plus babies rabies. Dating herself. Getting strong free dinner strategy vibes.
Traksimuss 4y ago
Lucky child, she maybe drinks for few months before noticing being pregnant.
PopularBug5 4y ago
Confirm fat since she is alcoholic and her hobbies revolve around staying at home.
Also fat -> lots of sexual partners, and she even specifically selects men who are promiscuous and don't really bother bonding and staying loyal.
umockdev 4y ago
Credit where credit is due, she came so close in the 3rd paragraph. Just to throw it all out of the window by thinking she can go for a child without even having to need a guy. Top kek.
You know what? I suggest she goes through with it. What a lot of these mid-30s women don't know is that - alongside better fertility - there is another reason to start having kids in your 20s: energy. So many women I know who had their first kid in her 30s all say tthat they wish they had started earlier because they're always too tired. Now these women all have rrlatively stable relationships with a guy to help them out.
But imagine she wants to go through this alone. I can already see her starting to resent the child because she never gets a day off and can't go out with her friends anymore. It's like with weddings: they want to have it, but they don't want to deal with it after they get it.
BigCountryExpat 4y ago
Completely Concur. Currently sharing custody of GranBebe # 1. The 'rents are a fucking mess, and now? At 54 I'm chasing a 3.8/4 year old red-head firecracker lil girl (who I can't wait to red/black pill) You want tired?
As the SEALs say :"The only easy day was yesterday"
This, from me, a -relatively- in shape retired Infantryman. I can still hump a ruck, shoot move and communicate, but man, I got nuthin' to keep up with the GranBebe. Makes me re-appreciate the energy I had when I was a young troop... OH so long ago....
Dis Beee-atcha? Delusional. Completely bug-fuck nuts delusional. 31? No mention of regular exercise (lack of endorphins contributes to her 'anxiety' IMO) and the 'bottle o'vino' on the reg? Yah. Couch Tater who'll cash out chasing the tyke from a stroke, leaving the lil 'un to dine on the ubiquitous cat food until a relative finds her now-dead ass and rescues the tyke.
Gah I loath what our society has become....
NohoTwoPointOh 4y ago
Look here... I had to change my whole diet and exercise regimen to keep up with a little tyke at 40-something. It's brutal for sure. Excellent point.
HeftyAdministration8 4y ago
But don't forget . . . she's not going through with it now. She's going to do it in four years. That's four more years of life wearing her down, dating herself, and focusing on her cats. Then, and only then, will she be ready to be a mother.
umockdev 4y ago
Sure, because why the hell not. She can still easily become a mother at 35. Or 40. Right? Right?!
NuclearTheology 4y ago
Because children aren't accessories. They're living, breathing human beings who need both mothers and fathers, not a single parent needing company.
NohoTwoPointOh 4y ago
If she only had a mere fuck to give...
lanocheoscura 4y ago
But she has cats and it means that she is responsible /s.
melonmagellan 4y ago
I personally chose cats over kids because I don't think I'd be a great mother nor do I like kids.
I don't know how women pretend they get pregnant accidentally (often multiple times!). You can literally triple up BC methods.
That said, I no interest in baby trapping a man and my husband could care less either way about having a kid.
Traksimuss 4y ago
See, that is your
compassion and decencytoxic masculinity speaking. Women are higher than those trifling matters and are concerned only about themselves.koy6 4y ago
I wonder how society changes going forward. There are tons of single mothers out there right now. Sure the pro-single mother propaganda worked on people that never experienced it for a few decades. But you have tons of children being born to selfish women.
How do you convince someone who grew up in an environment where mom always put herself first, that single mothers are heroes? Sorry hunny mom needed to go out partying, it is ramen noodles and hot dogs again tonight.
Traksimuss 4y ago
It is simple. Statistically boys grow up to be felons, so prison takes cares of them.
Girls end up also being single mothers, perpetuating the single mother epidemy.
Usually single mothers end up having multiple children, so oldest one is forced to watch and care for younger children while mother parties.
melonmagellan 4y ago
She'll probably end up raising an identical man to the men who won't commit to her. That or a male feminist.
Right_Hand_Of_Kurze 4y ago
No. She will raise something like this..https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/transgender-insanity-is-leading-kids-to-mutilate-themselves/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa. Turning your son into a tranny is popular now. Lets the woman show how brave, modern, and accepting she is. Especially popular among white women. (I am white...so I can trashy whitey)
BeholdTheHair 4y ago
I'm white and have absolutely no compunction with trashing blacks, browns, yellows, reds or neon greens with fuchsia polka dots.
Shitty ideas and stupid, harmful behaviors are shitty ideas and stupid, harmful behaviors regardless of who's expressing/criticizing them. Fuck this "progressive" identitarian nonsense.
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Imagine having a little son and then losing the custody battle ('cause men usually do) and then having to helplessly watch as your son is conned into getting his dick chopped off at age 6.
WHAT? What in the actual fuck? The kid was three when you decided HE was a girl and you've been grooming him ever since. I am beyond disgusted. There aren't enough filthy words to describe that woman.
The_Meep_Lord 4y ago
One of my brother’s wives is doing that too. It is sick to me as the child is way too young to know what he/she wants.
If the child wants to transition, wait until they are 16-18 to tell.
Right_Hand_Of_Kurze 4y ago
Yeah. It is totally horrifying. The only thing to do in that situation would be to take your kid to Iran, Russia, China, or Cuba. Not joking. They would shelter you and the child in a heartbeat. Anything else about those nations...they understand the basic idea that it is wrong to do these things to kids. Actually Hungary passed a law against pushing that propaganda/grooming on underage kids. The U.S. response...harsh condemnation and flying the pride flag at the embassy there. This isn't about anything but trying to stop weird things being done to kids. Since we were all kids once we know that you can convince or indoctrinate a kid into anything. China , according to the WSJ is cracking down on "sissy pants".
RedBlow22 4y ago
I worked with a Texan who introduced me to the term "sissypants." Ya gotta love it!
Right_Hand_Of_Kurze 4y ago
Lol. I never heard it really til I read the article on China.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
While we normally don't allow posts like this during the weekdays, this post is being allowed as an exception since it is not a clear-cut profile and has elements of other phenomenon we showcase here. This woman fits several criteria at the same time: she is a leftover woman who cannot find a man to commit to her, she is a "strong, independent woman" who just wants to indulge her own selfish desire because she is afraid of missing the genetic lineage train as it approaches the geriatric pregnancy station, she is in her epiphany phase with regard to having a kid and she is a WAATGM-In the Making who would rather lie to her potential partners to silently rope them into something they would not probably sign up for.
This post is being allowed because we want everyone to observe the following things showcased in the post:
This woman and a lot of these kind of women are deathly afraid of ending up alone but have no qualms wasting their prime in dead-end relationships that they chose. This is because most women's dating strategy is to set up shop and to wait for the right guy to walk in. Notice that her idea of "being happy alone" is to take herself out on a date and not doing volunteer work to benefit others (and derive pleasure from it) or improving herself so that can do better. The answer to her happiness is self-indulgence, which is the sole reason she is deciding to be a mom despite the fact she is going to inconvenience her kid and her potential partner for her selfish desires.
There are good reasons why men do not want to commit to most older women and this woman is a good showcase of one of the reasons why.
PS: I am changing the flair to "Epiphany Phase" (even though the post can fit several others) since I believe it fits better than the others for this specific post.
mustangfrank 4y ago
This woman and a lot of these kind of women are deathly afraid of ending up alone but have no qualms wasting their prime in dead-end relationships that they chose.
Just like the site says.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a man's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is deliberately planned by women,[1][2][3] and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves
Paltry_Poetaster 4y ago
not fair to the child, woman is only thinking of her own emotional needs
GiantOfTheSouthSky 4y ago
Just don't let it be a boy.
manfrom-nantucket 4y ago
Female selfishness really has no bounds.
NohoTwoPointOh 4y ago
Solipsism at the core.
polishknightusa 4y ago
I sort of like what she did in that she "dated herself" and paid for her own wine and walks on the beach. But that's only a half measure.
She should take out friends and new acquaintances on "dates" and see what it's like from the man's point of view. Pick up the dinner tab for her friends and when they don't reciprocate, see how that feels.
When I was single, I ddi a lot to improve myself particularly in the soft skills areas. I strategically considered what I would compromise on AND would also raise standards in other ways. I learned how to hunt. I widened my "funnel". I took feedback.
I think what this woman illustrates is the problem with women who try to do this, even half-arsed like she does, is that they run out of time. By the time they just figure out how to land beta bucks, they're too old to get that and have to lower their standards even further. Men's choices increase the older, and wiser, we get while such women may chase their compromises down into Alice's rabbit hole.