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Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.

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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.

In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.

Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.

But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.

Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.

The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.

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Lavish lady's liking lounge lizards lets lowkey lover lacerated. "Learnt low libido leads lame life" - lad's logical landing lacks lapses. Lofty long-lasting liaison's liquefaction launches literal liberty, leaving lassie lunatic.

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kingx85x 4y ago

The main issue was that he knew that she wasn’t that sexually attracted to him and that probably was always nagging at him and seeing those other dudes that she dated just confirmed it for him and he couldn’t take it anymore. She messed up by not draining his balls consistently. He look at her in disgust after he saw those dudes and probably felt played, knowing that she wasn’t a virgin, she was barely f*cking him which made him feel like she didn’t really like him like that… If a man is about to secure your future the way he was, sex is the least you can do.

asdf333aza 4y ago

This is truly a beautiful story.

And more guys should be aware of this crap. Chick's always try to scrub their social media clean when they're ready to settle down. Be on the look out.

And for female lurkers, this one of the things men want. This right here! Guys want to feel like you truly love them for them and not their success or achievement. They want to feel like you would be into them even if they were 10 or 15 years younger. Even if they were a geeky loser. And the best way to show that you are the type of girl who would have always liked them is to simply be with them during their growth or at least date someone similar. You can't date bad boy after bad boy and jock after jock and then say "I want a soft ware engineer now that I'm in my 30s". You can't bang white guy after white guy and then hit your 30s and be like "I want a nice Asian guy to make my parents happy". Absolutely disgusting. Almost nothing is more if a turn off to a guy. Men want to know feel like you want them and would have always wanted them.

Nightowloldschool 4y ago

Chad damaged female now looking for help to justify her past choices, good for the guy, this is why we need to spread the word

Guapscotch 4y ago

Glad cryptobro made it out

SealTheSymbol 4y ago

I love this sub. So much good info.

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

This isn't all of it. This story is on YouTube. There was an update. One of her friends showed her fiance an old sex tape and guess what was happening on the sex tape? ....... You guessed it! Things she had never done for him. But wait! There's more! According to her, she gives him plenty of sex which is twice a month. She also said he isn't entitled to her body and she would refuse to sign a prenup. SHOCKER! Let me see if I can find the YouTube link.

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

Oh and he's fucking the girl who showed him the picture too.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Does that YouTube link reveal any usernames or the subreddit of origin?

If so, then don't link it here.

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

Ok I took it down. I think this should be a typed article in the sidebar with the update typed out too. I actually saw the video yesterday on YouTube and I just had to look it up. When I found the post, the update was gone.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

I believe I can somehow retrieve it. I'll submit through modmail to check with you guys.

LordFlakkko 4y ago

This is why im hesitant of women whos ex's are completly different than me in looks. If she dates only whites but im next (im black) then if shes a black woman id wonder whats going on. Whyd she change? Anyone else like this?

Fancuku 4y ago

She’s only upset that her lifetime long meal ticket got canceled.

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Land_of_the_Losers the-niceguy.com 4y ago

She's very sorry that she got caught.

She does leak a lot of interesting detail about their respective finances, though. Like, way more detail than necessary. As if she was keeping very meticulous track of things in a calculating way.

wathon2 4y ago

like Kevin S. said, women are very good at hiding their intention.

For every woman that got caught, there are hundreds that managed to trick a BB to married them.

Modern men need to approach marriage with extreme caution and pessimism. The first red flag that she sees you as BB is that sex is not given freely, enthusiastically, and frequently.

p3ngwin WAATGM Endorsed 4y ago

She's very sorry that she got caught.

Yep, amazing how contrition only kicks-in AFTER undesirable consequences do :)

mustangfrank 4y ago

She almost got to rob the bank. But her damn friends spoke the truth.

loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

I can't believe my friend and bridesmaid would betray me like that

Yup. Just pass on the responsibility onto someone else.

EastEndMontrealer1 4y ago

Love these posts that use alliterations as their titles

rickmackdaddy 4y ago

“…I never have sex with him…” He just realized with whom you had lots of sex.

mustangfrank 4y ago

…I never have sex with himm but I love him. WTF horseshit is that?

rickmackdaddy 4y ago

In her defense, she really loves his money.

Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Another classic line from women: "I love you but I'm not in love with you". Yeah, WTF indeed?

Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Let's say that this nerd dude didn't find out all this and went on to marry her and they "have kids", the kids are likely not to be his.

HolyGourdofJerusalem 4y ago

Forrest Gump said "I may not be a smart man, but I do know what love is."

This wise chap is not only a smart man, but he knows what love isn't.

Good for him, he just saved himself a ton of money, trouble and heartache, and possibly his life, considering how many men commit suicide when they get divorce-raped and lose their kids after Ms. Wild Party Girl goes back to her "true self" with the kind of guy she really wants.

Also note how the "friend" betrayed her...don't think for a minute those bridesmaids weren't jealous AF.

Crabs in a bucket... dude was so smart to walk. You can tell a lot about a person by knowing their friends, and the way their friends act. If her close friends are all social media narcissists and party animals, odds are she is too.

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Lameador 4y ago

Smart notice on the friend's attitude.

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

Birds of a feather flock together.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Also note how the "friend" betrayed her...don't think for a minute those bridesmaids weren't jealous AF.

I doubt her friend actually "betrayed" her. I think that's OP's emotional spin.

Chances are, the friend was being helpful when the dude asked something like "so you have any photos from when you two were in college together? Hey, who's that? Is that the kind of guy she always dated?"

If you ask like you're genuinely curious and non-judgmental, you can learn a lot.

mustangfrank 4y ago

If you ask like you're genuinely curious and non-judgmental, you can learn a lot.

I agree. And the girl who spilled the beans about her being a party girl said so with a sense of humor. For example: XXX sure knew how to party, then gave some examples. All the time the man was horrified to what he was hearing.

LordFlakkko 4y ago

This is the key. When asking a women something like this you must NOT approach in a judgmental way. Create a fun and relaxed atmosphere then pry a bit but let her do the opening

HolyGourdofJerusalem 4y ago

that's fair, easier for OP to blame someone than look in the mirror, and if the guy is as smart as he seems, he wouldn't have set off any red flags when he approached the friend

to augment your last sentence (wise words, btw), discretion is often the better part of valor...especially in affairs of the (jilted) heart.

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

Key point. If you act non-judgmental they will always spill the beans eventually.

Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

He probably wanted to do some wedding slide show with photos of both of them as kids, students, graduates, than being together, vacations, having fun.

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

Bro!

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Or at least pretended that to get the friend's help.

Don't forget that he'd already seen the one photo with an ex before talking to her friend.

Fairwareprovidence 4y ago

Bullet fucking dodged. Epic matrix style moves. Only issue I have is the guy gave her way too much information to respond to.

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Dude got lucky. Stay single bro.

Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Read to the very end. She's still lying down to the very last few words.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Rule 4. Don't go looking for the original. You know better, too. 14-day ban, which is lenient because this sort of thing threatens the very existence of this sub.

It also sucks because that was a high-quality comment otherwise, and now it's removed.

ChosenUndead92 4y ago

This is amazing, it really brought much joy of how aware this guy is. Real Chad!

SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Also, notice how her “friends” seemed all to eager to spill the beans on her. They must have been very jealous indeed of the thousand pound trophy marlin beta-bux that she had snagged. And I’m guessing they were all of similar dual mating strategy compared to this female.

Which shows another great aspect of female nature: When it comes time for her and her friends to start asking The Big Question all gloves are off. The competition for men like him must be fierce and at least one of them must have thought that she could be the one to snag him when he walked away, “because I’m not a skank like she is”. This of course is irregardless of the truth of that situation. Always remember, first and last, that women have their motives and they absolutely hate being discovered, and they absolutely hate each other too.

How much sex do you think this guy was getting from her?

Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

The grownup equivalent of an "I like you" note passed in class.

SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Hahaha. Indeed. Probably still sitting on first base due to “her new found religion”

1500minus12 4y ago

Wonder if they’re both Asian seeing as he was upset over the guys being tall white jocks. She settled down with the smart Asian nerd after fucking white men in her prime.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

She settled down with the smart Asian nerd after fucking white men in her prime.

Now, now sex for him. She is past that stage of her life.

HedgeRunner 4y ago

If this dude lives in Silicon Valley, there's a 90 percent chance he's Asian (Chinese or Indian). I've seen this a lot although most people making 60k can't survive in the valley. Those who do does this a lot and it's obvious AF in malls and restaurants at the incompatibility.

When I see it I laugh but then I'm a little sad because the guy is getting fucked over but then I tell myself he knew that and can't stop from letting sex control him and I get less sad. Lawl

Lameador 4y ago

Nice catch

Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

This is why we all come here, to read between the lines. Race is a factor in this for sure, her husband to be likely (correctly) figured that but for his money, she’d have not gone near him. These two were about to be unequally yoked, bro was to make ten times what she made, it was to be a male led relationship, he has all the advantage, that she would tell him that shit was not his business is insane. For certain, he figured out that her prudishness is fake, guys can tell when their lady, despite always being “tired” or “not in the mood” is actually much more sexually experienced than she lets on. Being that regular access to sex is supposed to be one of the benefits of marriage, women really don’t get how embittering it is for a guy to know that his wife/girlfriend gave her best some to other dude who might not be able pick her out of a lineup if he tried.

LateralThinker13 4y ago

women really don’t get how embittering it is for a guy to know that his wife/girlfriend gave her best some other dude who might not be able pick her out of a lineup if he tried.

Damn well said.

aesthetic_anus_43 4y ago

If she’s Asian she wouldn’t be making 65k, her parents would disown her for being a failure. Unless she’s Americanized

1500minus12 4y ago

Nah they were probably proud she was about to bag a man with 10+ million dollars. Now they’ll be pissed.

iamre 4y ago

I've seen plenty of Americanized white washed Asian girls out there that join sororities, go to cochella, order pumpkin spice lattes from Starbucks, etc...

ShinyBronze 4y ago

I think she’s south Asian with progressive parents that let her do what she looooovvvedddd.

That’s probably why she had so much free time in college. Useless major = easy classes.

ingenjor 4y ago

Wonder if she was dating TechLead on YouTube.

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ShinyBronze 4y ago

He’ll bag someone soon. He’s famous.

He just needs to do a better job vetting and get a hell of a prenup.

_No-Waifu-No-Laifu_ 4y ago

Asian or Indian, I'd bet a paycheck on it. Many such cases unfortunately; theyre some of the most brazen when it comes to AF/BB.

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

It’s the culture where some of the “best” stories on all the relationship subs come from

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Why do you think there is such hardcore pushback on hyper aggressive subs like aznidentity, Asianmasculinity and southAsianmasculinity?

We have our own version of the MGTOW movement.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

Can you give an example. I know of this, passively, because when you see their sub, you will see women complaining about how indian men chase other ethnicities and are enamoured with white skin, when the counter argument is made by men that if we do and even if we are very high into fitness/"good-at-their-work" they try to push them away subtly and then start going crazy. Funnily, the fault is put on the men being skinny, geeky but those who are there tell me everyone of every type is present there, so this argument is bullshit. They pull the culture thing, tbh many of their ideas are backward or they do not know the actual ground situation about how the country has changed.

bilged 4y ago

Especially in India. Arranged marriage cultures have a heavy 'business transaction' component to marriage with the love and affection expected to develop down the line.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

This has changed i would say, with dating for year/s before marrying. Also, the demands change a lot with after marriage. Indian girls could not handle, especially which are living in luxury that they may do some work in their "own" household. You tell an indian girl to do household work, the gynocentric conditioning inside her, filled and accepted by her adult self, will cry misogny but tell this to a man and he would do it happily in most cases, ofc if he's working than this may vary accordingly.The logic given by men is uniformly same, they were helping with it since the day they were born.

One of my friend's elder brother married a girl from the south. The girl, after marriage, left her job and now watches netflix, meets her friends, etc each day. They guy gets nothing from her, thats why love marriage are not some "guarantee" that they will work. Many had failed because the girl now wants to live away from parents or not in the home secured by the man. Idiotic.

Most of the population is Hindu(does not matter, just for an example), go see Hindu Marriage Act, it is literally a tomb for men to fall into. Daughter is the responsibility of the father, wife is of the husband, but she is never her own.

LawyerInTheMaking Virtual Bigfoot 4y ago

south asian checking in. i thought the same when i got to that part. these broads on the low will do whatever they can to snag a white dude (no hate against the white dudes, cant pick your race) while actively portray dating some white chick as a negative.

im not particularly interested in white women but my cousins and all made jokes about me marrying some white girl one day. soon as my cousin (6 months older than i) married a Arab dude that looked white, they all got in line and it was peace and blessings from there. hypocrites.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

Man, you living here in the country? The situations rough. Women , who have court orders of shared parenting(here, from the Court of Singapore), will bring a child back to india, and the judge will ask the husband if the child is an object to be brought here and there. I froze right there.Also, she filed a DV on her in-laws , with whom she never met after just one time after their "love" marriage. You will se so many just getting men so that they can go to foreign and then settle down and leech off, then break off the marriage. Even they know the courts work in their favor massively.

Dude, i see you are a lawyerinmaking, checkout mensdayout as well.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

That’s why so many dudes have sworn off Indian women. Look at gen Z…

I’m just waiting for the East Asian brothers to catch up.

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

And why said women fill up the crazy sub.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

What?

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

South Asian women fill up the crazy sub that I have already named once in this thread but don’t want to name too many times

The toxic misandrist one that is inexplicably not banned

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Oh yes. I think a majority of them are south Asian.

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

They might have overtaken from the previous majority by now

But you can kind of tell when go on about their careers and then also rant about the size of the men they can attract (both height and other)

Thinguy123 4y ago

Good catch, don't want to sound race baiter or something, but the dude does strikes me as asian or another ethnicity than white, because she clearly described her exes as "white"

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ShinyBronze 4y ago

Yup. I was also thinking the same thing. My money is on south Asian.

Several indicating factors that are setting my brown radar off:

-I can tell when south Asians are typing because it’s incredibly self unaware and giving away unnecessary details

-The humiliation at the cancellation of the wedding. Weddings are a big deal in our culture, which is why it’s hitting harder for her that it’s cancelled after all the invitations went out. The part she didn’t add: (what will my parents think??)

-Dude was a software engineer. Us brownies run the tech game. This definitely is in Bay Area or Silicon Valley

-The hatred toward whites. Getting in bed with the colonizer is some unforgivable shit. Girls that do this are isolated by any man in our culture worth his weight in salt. Kinda how white guys wont take white girls that have been banged by black dudes. Almost like a “tainted” feeling. I promise you, if her exes were Indian or East Asian, he wouldn’t have given a shit

-His quickness to drop her. Our culture isn’t known for being an emotional one. Especially the men, who are encouraged to be stoic and keep our shit in line. It does make me feel better knowing that he must not have cared for her that much to drop her so quickly

-Super strong arranged marriage vibes with this one. She was a girl who had her independence and fun in her youth and wants babies before the final wall hits, so she picked the first guy her family presented to her. All she cared about was the $$$, so she said yes immediately. This reinforces her horror at the wedding cancellation. This was just as much for her parents expectations as it was for her

-Her willingness to be a stay at home mom. Somehow, I don’t see western white women ready to do this. Just feel it in my gut. Y’all have been plagued by feminism for too long

The more I read it, the more it makes sense. She’s just really bat shit crazy and unaware.

Even with all this evidence, there is a small chance the girl is white, but the dude for sure is south Asian.

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

I agree with the south Asian thing. There are lots of south Asians in the U.K.

I spoke to one who was incredibly open about being “white men only”

This is a double whammy as I knew guys who knew they had almost no chance with white girls (at least back in school/college days) not matter how hard they tried

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Why was she like that? What was her reasoning?

There are a couple equivalents to her in other races where their rule is “anyone but white”. But at least those girls have reasoning.

The types that you mentioned tend to be insecure, self loathing and most of the time, not very attractive.

It could also be an angry reaction to south Asian men dating and marrying white girls in the UK.

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

She made some kind of claim about being from a not so well regarded family or something? Apparently other Asians wouldn’t marry into people from her part of India

cryptothrow2 3y ago

Dalit/untouchable? May be right. Most Indians you hear of in the tech industry are from basically one class of Indians.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Ahhh okay that makes sense.

She was Hindu?

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Yes apparently from a very conservative family (although clearly not herself)

Apparently guys from other regions / families would want nothing to do with people from her background and the guys from her region are all lower class / badly educated etc

Might have been true but it sounded partially like cope to me. She was quite delusional

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Yup. You didn’t even have to tell me that lol.

Subcontinent women in general are quite crazy.

I’m guessing she wasn’t particularly easy on the eyes?

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Which part was obvious? The bit about conservative Hindu family?

She really wasn’t easy on the eyes at all but didn’t seem to realise. She claimed her family hated her because they saw her as the bimbo. Apparently especially her sister who was apparently really ugly. Which coming from her means she must have been extremely unfortunate looking

This girl was a 5 at absolute best but probably not even that. But she asked me if she should “lower her standards to 7/10”

Interesting that you also knew she wasn’t a looker!

vtec__ 4y ago

alot of phillipinos in tech? i thought it was mostly east asians (chinese/korean and some japanese)

ShinyBronze 4y ago

No fam. South Asian means Desi. Brown people from the subcontinent.

India, Pakistan, Bangladesh.

vtec__ 4y ago

o shit, yer right. i thought south asian alsmot meant south east asian lol

ShinyBronze 4y ago

South East Asian means Filipino, Thai, viet, indo, Malay, Cambodian etc

Lord_Kano 4y ago

I'm thinking Asian or South-Asian.

1500minus12 4y ago

Yeah it’s what I caught too. Asian men have to deal with it a lot if you talk to them about it. Asian women will fawn over white men and Asian men know it. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest and Asian men have a lot of resentment towards it which I think is why he lost his shit if I had to put money on it.

Any semi attractive white man that’s travelled to Asia knows all about this.

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

I maintain that the second largest demographic on FDS is south Asian women who hate/are repulsed by men of their own race. Notably the ones banging on about careers

Largest demographic is almost certainly fat angry black women just by the vernacular used

This is absolutely not meant to race bait but just seems apparent from their posts

LordFlakkko 4y ago

I think Asians have the highest amount of self hate because of this

Tweapodok33 4y ago

Buddy of mine taught English in China for several years. He said it’s the closest you’ll ever feel to being a rock star. He said the value they place on white skin is the insane.

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ShinyBronze 4y ago

Aren’t unmarried women over 30 called “leftovers” in China??

Based!

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messmaker907 4y ago

They just want you to put a round eye baby in them.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

It’s more about the money I think.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

2 words my dude: Green Card

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ShinyBronze 4y ago

LBFM’s?

I figured this rhetoric existed, but which country specifically. South East Asia?

White worship is a disease there.

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ShinyBronze 4y ago

What does the term stand for? Is it an English acronym

Edit: just looked it up. Looks like they were hookers

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1500minus12 4y ago

Do you think in part this is because Judaism passing matrilineally or because us goys are so attractive;)

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Sub-Sero 4y ago

Didn't being crypto fix the aesthetic issues or did you get the bad ticket in the genetic lottery?

I know a few crypto's here in the Netherlands and they're completely passable as Dutch folks despite their father often being a goy. Most of them are also none-practicing.

vtec__ 4y ago

im short. doesnt matter how symmetrical my face is. but yeah, bad ticcket for sure.

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vtec__ 4y ago

ive banged out plenty of girls who are 100% aryan, pure blooded anglo-saxon blonde girls. unfortunately they are modern women. all western women are garbage

oh and LOL @ your username.

1500minus12 4y ago

You’re alright Jew boy.

vtec__ 4y ago

the 4age is cool. i had an ae86 coupe w/ the 4age. fun motor but the B motor is better. i have a mk3 supra turbo im rebuilding.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Question, so if you married an Anglo chick or a straight up WASP (not sure many of them are left in the US), would your child be considered Jewish?

vtec__ 4y ago

nope, its passed on thru the mom

vtec__ 4y ago

yep, prob asian. i dont think indian girls are as bad as east asian girls

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

You are welcome to go to mensdayout.com and see for yourself how the girls and the courts are woke af.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Correct. We talk about this in our circles on the daily.

Glad it’s being seen in other red pill circles.

vtec__ 4y ago

id imagine some white guys would have the same responses. if i was white and my stacy gf was only dating chads in college and since im no chad id be suspicious

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Not sure about this one. It definitely hits different if she’s been with other races IMO.

I think it’s a guys natural instinct to mate guard “his” women.

I’m surprised about the Jewish girls marrying out thing. From what I’ve seen, Jewish girls simp for Jewish men.

vtec__ 4y ago

the religous/upper class ones do. not te secular liberal ones

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Seculars are the worst, bro.

Coming from a practicing Muslim.

vtec__ 4y ago

secular jews or just secular ppl in general?

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Secular people in general who come from a strong, traditional religious background.

jymssg 4y ago

My fucking boy, dodged a bullet at the last second. I wish him the best

Flashy_Glove6208 4y ago

I told him it's (her past) none of his business

Every single guy I've been with was a tall white jock

I was a wild party girl

Yes, yes, yes :-)Kudos to the guy!. This post makes me smile big time :-)

The guy saw through her dual mating strategy just in time and handled this like a champ. He got RPed and saved himself and his life just in time.

She'd cheat on him and divorce him for cash and prizes after locking him down with marriage & 1-2 children.

RuskinBondFan 4y ago

It shouldn't matter.

This tells you how out of touch they are with what men want. Not only that, they're completely dismissive of it too.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Rule 4, fellas. Do not look for or discuss the original.

Tag: /u/Goldmansachs3030, /u/RuskinBondFan

RuskinBondFan 4y ago

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

Noted.

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This post may be fake but there are plenty of similar stories that aren't. (look below)

Women keep unironically proving the alpha fux and beta bux thing over and over and over again that its hilarious at this point.

One of the most important posts in this sub linked below. If you don't think this is true just search for the 'women who settled for a man' posts. The 1000s of stomach churning answers ought to convince you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/a661ud/psa\_how\_to\_know\_youve\_been\_settled\_for/

mustangfrank 4y ago

Great article and true,.

moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

You are verging on "This is fake" claim. If it is fake, prove it. If you can prove it is fake, it will be taken down. If you're going just by your feelings and not proof, then let me remind you that it has as much chance of being true as it does of being fake. Think on why you sided with the "it must be fake" side.

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Why do you think it's fake? DO you have any evidence that it's fake?

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Use the modmail.

veepalz 4y ago

Really happy for this guy, he may be going through hell now but now hes walking away with one of the greatest gifts of all; freedom

PirateDocBrown 4y ago

Never tell women you are rich. I let them wonder how I live so well, but don't work. Most of them think I'm a drug dealer. They can dream that I'm a bad boy.

Extension-Soil-620 4y ago

I love happy endings, good move from the guy, he can get a 20year old without a history no problem. (Im 32, and did the same, younger girls are way easier and not alpha widowed)

She said herself "he is a smart man", so he did a smart thing and ditched her for her past, because thats the best indicator for the future.

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Lol your definition of happy endings.

tirednurse969 4y ago

Incredible story, and for real, good riddance. Hopefully he never talks to her again.

silly_birb_Banned 4y ago

Love and desire are two different things for women.

She may have honestly loved him but never desired, otherwise she would have said "he's hot" instead of "he will make a good father"

mustangfrank 4y ago

She may have honestly loved him but never desired, otherwise she would have said "he's hot" instead of "he will make a good father"

100% correct.

Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

loved him

She loved the possibility of being a married women with good income, even a stay at home mum. The guy is not important in this picture.

silly_birb_Banned 4y ago

Love for women means picking a provider.

If a woman says she loves you then you should feel insulted.

If she says she desires you and doesn't care about anything else but be with you then it's closer to what we men define as love.

The biggest examples are females fans, they desire a famous good looking man that never talked to them, cared about their problems or spent any money on them, but they are all screaming "i want to have your babies!"

mustangfrank 4y ago

The guy is not important in this picture.

Correct

Land_of_the_Losers the-niceguy.com 4y ago

As I see it, her biggest blunder was to not keep a bit of jock sperm in refrigerated vials for use after the wedding. She might as well go the whole 9 yards with the bifurcated cravings. There's no room for half-measures in today's modern marriages!

silly_birb_Banned 4y ago

They cheat with the ex boyfriend that was a Chad after they had their first child from Beta Billy.

This way she's sure to use the child support to raise the one with better genes.

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RuskinBondFan 4y ago

That would make an interesting episode.

Mister_McDerp 4y ago

Jesus christ that title. You've outdone yourself.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

Thanks, dude. This one really took a while, but I just kept finding words that began with an L.

chankletavoladora 4y ago

“Over something that shouldn’t matter”.

To you, obviously it matters to him. As it should. He’s a legend.

Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Haha! I am having a big ol' laugh over here! Schadenfreude and all that.

panzer22222 4y ago

I think the most important line was:

'I never have sex with him'

He likely would have been ok with all the rest but seeing that he gives her the most and gets the least. If she was 1/10 as freaky with him as she was with all the frat boys she would have been given a pass.

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ryandiy 4y ago

Exactly. Giving the most and getting the least is the essence of the beta bux rage.

Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Nothing hurts more than when you find out that your “kind” and “pure” love who doesn’t have much sex with you because of how “uncomfortable” it is or who is “just not into sex” actually turns out to be far more experienced than you. Furthermore, it’s hard to ignore when all the guys she’s been with look very different from you. Guys should really be suspicious when a woman they are with has a history of nothing but Chads in it.

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Hahaha! I get it. Took me a second read, but I got it.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

I think the dude was East Asian or south Asian.

vegasbadboy702 4y ago

“I told him it’s none of his business” oh hell no. He’s about to marry her and she’s clearly been mum about her dating history if not flat out deceptive. It’s absolutely his business to know what he would be wifing up. Can you imagine any other area of life where that bs would work regarding a major contract. Example: “So is this house you are selling ever had issues?” “It’s none of your business. The past is the past”.

"It shouldn't matter" Well for her it shouldn’t matter because she wants her financial catch but sadly for men it absolutely matters about your dating past. The fact she still wouldn’t fess up after he first confronted her shows she knows it matters. He had to get the full scoop from a third party.

maruadventurer 4y ago

Dear Lord.

"We were scrolling thru Facebook..." Who the hell does that kind of thing together? Weird.

"... my friend showed him pictures ..." The ole 'crab in pot' syndrome shows up yet again.

"... I am insanely attracted to him ... " But apparently you are not having sex with him? Either the man's observation is correct or Dual Mating Strategy is in play. Either way I smell veiled odor of Beta Buxxs in the air...

"... is educated like me ..." Lets see, he's in STEM. She graduated with an Art degree? Where the hell is the parity in that? If the woman was gifted she would be in all the studios pulling down $65k a painting not $65k doing social work.

Her 401k plan just went up in smoke. Sucks to be her. The dude dodged a big one.

RuskinBondFan 4y ago

I'm attracted to him because he's a smart kind man.

Sure buddy.

plazmaa76 4y ago

He lucked out she would have let him get her pregnant then divorced him and went back to her usual Chad servicing.

Jake-Orion 4y ago

He told me I'm not attracted to him because I never have sex with him and this proves it.

She can go ahead and spin it all she wants, but this statement is in fact the clear indicator she is NOT attracted to him. By reasoning, she should be having wild crazy sex if she is into him, yet, defying all logic, she refuses to engages in fun with a man she is in "love" with. Huh? All of a sudden sex is a sacred act at her convenience?

I would love to hear a logical explanation from the ladies, yet everytime it is asked, mute or queue the misogyny rebukes.

Thinguy123 4y ago

Oh my oh my, what do i spot in the wild

It shouldn't matter

It should not matter?

Come on guys, give her a break, her past should not matter, i mean it does, but it shouldn't, no one told her that her past can have consequences down the road, she just didnt knew, cut her some slack at 33 and she still doesn't understand,

But in all honesty? She fucked up since before this revelation, she took him for granted, the sex stopped, she rested on her laurels.

The guy is IT genius, she should know he isn't dumb, he immediately put 2 and 2 together as soon as he saw the pictures and the lack of sex.

She fucked up 10 years ago, and she fucked up now, and i don't need to be clairvoyant to know what's gonna happen 10 years from now

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mustangfrank 4y ago

She fucked up since before this revelation, she took him for granted, the sex stopped, she rested on her ~~laurels.~~ pussy

loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

she took him for granted, the sex stopped,

This is what piqued his interest in her past.

Had he been her first, he would be able to rationalize that she just has a lower libido and she forgets to appreciate his efforts, but she's working on it....

But a picture is worth a thousand words. What he saw in those pictures must have shown him a completely different woman.

A woman who sexually craves her jock of a man. A woman who tries to please her man and does not take him for granted.

Suddenly he's hit with the realization that she settled for him as the safe option. Suddenly her taking him for granted and sexual rejections begin to really sting.

And that's when the relationshit was doomed.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

when a chick isn't fucking you before the marriage, she is NOT going to start once you do get married.

Ain't that the God damn truth.

omegajelly200 4y ago

Of course the past matters. We have university degrees for that reason.

If a person demonstrates that he is able to complete a tertiary education on skills relevant to the job, it is not a stretch of imagination to assume he is going to be a good fit for the job.

RuskinBondFan 4y ago

The guy dodged a massive bullet there.

_Remember_me_not_ 4y ago

You know the size of the bullet in the Mario games.

lavishrabbit6009 4y ago

That last paragraph.

If she isn't actively trying to sexually please you, nothing you do will change that.

I-am-the-lul 4y ago

Only young virgins get a pass when it comes to demanding a 'no sex before marriage' rule, no such pass should ever be applied to any woman who is in her mid-20s or older.

sahnisanchit 4y ago

I just realised what you said is so true. I'm 23 but understand it fully. I don't know many women who are above 26 and have never had sex.

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

Can’t negotiate attraction, that’s for sure.

Land_of_the_Losers the-niceguy.com 4y ago

She's right, the past shouldn't matter. Like, if her fiancée suddenly revealed to her that he was totally into hookers and blow for a few years, it would just be water under the bridge today. You know, none of her business anyway. Past is the past, etc. If the shoe was on the other foot, you know she'd be cool.

Lord_Kano 4y ago

Like, if her fiancée suddenly revealed to her that he was totally into hookers and blow for a few years, it would just be water under the bridge today.

With a 6 figure income and a 7 figure net worth, it wouldn't matter to her. She might even like it because it would increase her chances of being perceived as the victim when she decides to divorce rape him.

OracleofFl 4y ago

she took him for granted, the sex stopped

So called "Burying the Lead". To her it was about a million things and a million details. To him, it was about one thing supported by a million details. She was faking attraction and he figured it out.

The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

To her it was about a million things and a million details. To him, it was about one thing supported by a million details.

Don't know if that's your line, but it's a great one.

OracleofFl 4y ago

I just came up with it on the fly...feel free to use it!

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I used to be a ch!ld m0l3st3r. But that's in the past and none of your business.

I used to make $300K a year but now make $40K doing something I llllurrrrve. But that's none of your business.

I'm gonna be ~~with my sugar baby~~ at work today. But where I am is none of your business.

My criminal past and long rap sheet is none of your business.

I can't hold down a job. But that's none of your business.

I make my living selling drugs and doing contract murders. My last two girlfriends were killed as collateral damage. But that's none of your business.

I have 3 kids by 2 different baby mamas. That's none of your business.

I used to fuck hookers without protection. I'm kinda waiting on my latest STD test. That's none of your business.

mustangfrank 4y ago

I have 3 kids by 2 3 different baby mamas. That's none of your business.

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Yeah. It's all in the past and it doesn't matter anymore, baby.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

I had a big credit card bill on which they were charging me money for stuff I'd bought in the past. I called up Visa customer service and said "but it's the past, though!" and they're like "Gosh, I guess the past is none of our business. Sorry, sir!" and I was like "Yes, you should be sorry." and that was the end of that.

And now another true story from FDS

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Dude, I'm $300,000 in debt and declared bankruptcy twice...

Mr. Al, we are sorry, but we cannot loan you money for a new car.

But, dudes, that was in the past! It doesn't matter anymore. Anything that I did before I met you is totally irrelevant and has nothing to do with anything. And it is none of your business anyway. So get your fucking checkbooks out and give--- Hello? Hello? Hey!! Goddammit....

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I know I have been with you. I cheated on you 5 years ago with like 20 other women.

But that was in the past. It doesn't matter anymore. I'm not like that anymore. My preferences have changed.

mustangfrank 4y ago

My preferences have changed to younger women.

ilovewahmen 4y ago

Smart man. Courageous to be able to walk away just like that.

GutGraffiti 4y ago

Damn, this chick must suck as a therapist.

1: Is not open in anyway and basically ask for trust while not giving it back.

2: Dosen't listen to him when directly telling her its a big deal for him but instead tries to scold and shame like a sibling walking into the others room.

3: Still refuses to admit it matters at the end.

4: When confronted directly with the issue of attraction and needing to feel desired by her husband she instead deflects to his role as a potential father. A totally different angle and factor of being a partner.

This is like if you were a chick and you were wondering why you can't get dudes to commit to you as a partner and then they start talking about how great of an ass you got. It may be a compliment intended but the topic redirection says a lot, intentional or otherwise.

It's literally "I know you got insecurity and concerns about this role but you're useful for this intended purpose so calm down" that don't work for a full rounded romantic connection. No one wants to be the tool to an end.

5: Dosen't even acknowledge that these insecurity and fears are her husbands own and instead tries to deflect to her friends "Betrayal" there was no bloody betrayal. No normal human being would think to hide something like that, especially from someone you're meant to be open with.

Girl, you're a therapist, you're entire job is about being open and asking others to do the same for you. How you messing this up. She straight up ain't listening because she's more concerned with her image of a type of partner to him than his feelings.

No wonder this guy cut off the wedding, how you can you not see this as her trying to play with your perception first and foremost.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

acknowledge that these insecurity and fears are her husbands own

Insecurities and fears- nope. Calling it an insecurity means you are very much good wifing up that ho right. This is precisely what feminist do, "you are insecure" bullshit. Do not do this.

Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

FEAMAL THERAPISTS ARE THE WORST PEOPLE TO TRY TO HAVE A REALTIONSHIP WITH.

I am talking, below pregnant, crack-addled, hookers with communicable ass-cancer.

You wanna talk about somebody who has ALL the INDUSTRY and EDUCATION approved tools to Evade, Deny, Avoid, and conceal?

To be SANCTIONED by EDUCATION to be as disingenuous as her education and psychopathy will allow?

IT'S UNCREDIBLE (UN, not IN)

Ask me how I know.

Or did I never tell you guys the story of Dating a Psycho-Therapist and Her failed attempt at Framing me for domestic violence and police brutality when I decided I didn't want to live with a Catlady-Horder who burned everything she cooked and who would stare at me when I sleep and I would wake up with her hovering over me.

She couldn't keep the crazy in long enough for even ME to deny it and was never home in those 1 and 1/2 months we lived together. I learned ALL KINDS of lessons up close and personal, one after the other.

That took 1 and 1/2 months of my life to end that mess. Working 12-14 hours shifts. That was 10+ years ago.

Her biggest mistake, is NOT realizing that my sisters consider me THEIR property, and they WONT have some dippy chick running up and RUINING, their ONLY BROTHER, so when she lashed out at me and reached for my sister to get "team woman" support, SHE FUCKED UP REAL BAD and got crunched for it.

All of this was something that OPENED MY EYES PERMANENTLY.

Up until then I had been in denial/putting the blame on ME.

I was very stupid then. But even THIS I couldn't unsee/Ever forget.

They can't even get me to ask for or take their number now.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

I went out with a psychology student a few times, many years ago. She had issues - always talking about some guy of her past, trying to look cool and chic like some character on Sex and the City, and a too-close-for-comfort relationship with her cat. And the sex was starfish sex - I kinda expected she would at least excel at that. Never again.

mustangfrank 4y ago

Her biggerst mistake, is NOT realizing that my sisters consider me THEIR property, and they WONT have some dippy chick runing ujp and RUINING, their favorite toy, so when she lashed out at me and reached for my sister to get "team woman" support, SHE FUCKED UP REAL BAD and got crunched for it.

Can you translate that into english?

Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

Often a woman will treat men poorly, because she is a psycho or sees men as disposable.

My sisters, however, have shown me nothing but love, and protection-ish. (I was never told stuff in advance enough to avoid it.)

When openly challenged/stalked by terrible women where they can see it, my sisters go into overprotective momma bear mode.

That is, the INSTANTLY take my side in any argument against a woman and THEN learn the facts so they can take my side MORE. And if the woman dares to contact them/show their face, my sisters are like two chained up pitbulls that want off the leash.

If a woman considers a man an object to treat however poorly they like, then

I theorize that my sisters either LOVE ME and are naturally hyper protective over me, or they see me as a PART OF THEM, and as such, have nothing but pure venom for some chick rolling up and trying to break THEIR stuff. Like their little brother.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Mostly good, but her ex-fiance wasn't expressing "insecurity" but rather legit concerns.

Women love to demean men's concerns as "insecurity", partly because of projection, but mainly in hopes of shaming the man into silence and serving women.

It's bad enough when they do it. Let's not do it for them.

GutGraffiti 4y ago

Right.

I forgot where I was and how much I've seen insecurity be used as a means to imply root character flaw in all concerns someone can have and thus dodge said concerns.

I meant more in its neutral state. Like "I am insecure being in a car with a guy who says I have a pretty mouth and collects hitch hikers teeth"

Just to elaborate what I meant.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

That's not insecurity, to acknowledge that she prefers different from you and refuses to give you her best, or at least what she gave those other dudes. That's recognizing a problem.

Stay single for life as in monk mode? Nah.

As in no marriage or commitment? Sure!

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

I missed that one.

Guarding yourself is hardly being a psychopath.

iamre 4y ago

What a king. Good for him. She partied and got ran through by frat boys and now she's changed and no fun for him, just bills and kids. Glad he saw through her BS

NBA_MSG 4y ago

"I now want an educated man like me, not the jocks I was with in college."

Wait, weren't these jocks at the same college as you???

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Besides, college admission standards have been really low the last couple decades.

Vespasians 4y ago

Lol love the bit with 'why would my bridesmaids show him that'. Crabs in a bucket. Hes the fucking king of catches and they saw a crack in the defence. How are you surprised?

road_laya 4y ago

Another woman in financial need going in for a hostile takeover

Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

Those women know if that Ho would have won she would have been insufferable.

She sucks as a frenemy now - wait till she has 600k to burn and fuck boy stories to tell.

All that bragging would have made the other women want to kill themselves.

And if they rat her out then, she gets 300k a year AND MORE fuckboi stories to tell.

Yep, better just STOP the next 20 years from being a headache with the ONE picture...

Thinguy123 4y ago

lol Only in female land her answer is supposed to calm him down instead of adding the entire exxon valdez worth of fuel into the fire

She revealed her entire hand, her real mentality and she can't understand why it didnt work

Good riddance for the man, i'll buy him a beer if i see him around

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Land_of_the_Losers the-niceguy.com 4y ago

Only in female land her answer is supposed to calm him down instead of adding the entire exxon valdez worth of fuel into the fire

"You liar! You're actually NOT allergic to penises!"

"I am! I just didn't start being allergic until after college! You know that I can still love you without ever once touching your penis."

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Profitglutton Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Lmao that one actually made me laugh because I can picture it so vividly in my mind.

mustangfrank 4y ago

"I am! I just didn't start being allergic until I met you! You know that I can still love you without ever once touching your penis." And for some reason those tall jocks never made me allergic. Trust me. I wouldn't lie.

_No-Waifu-No-Laifu_ 4y ago

"I fucked and sucked the guys I actually wanted but now I want you to pay full price for a salvage title taxi. Why are you upset?!"

PirateDocBrown 4y ago

I once said this to a gal I was dating.

She had occasionally given me blow jobs, and I told her I'd like it more frequently. She said she really didn't like giving them.

I said, "Someday I may not be able to get it up at all. Until then, though, I intend to receive a lot of blowjobs. And I really like you, and would like if you were there when I'm getting them."

She didn't like hearing that, and it wasn't long before we went our ways. I recruited a new plate and went on.

mustangfrank 4y ago

"I fucked and sucked the guys I actually wanted but now I am past that point in my life. That is why I don't fuck you.

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Profitglutton Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Ohhh I was wondering about that. I was think wait, isn’t this guy white himself? But that makes a lot more sense. Either that or Asian.

LordFlakkko 4y ago

I think hes Asian because he said hes pasty white

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Asian probably. Skinny Indian is actually rare in demographics. Anyways good thing he escaped from clutches of this 'lady'.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

Skinny Indian

I-am-the-lul 4y ago

Also confused, I do not recall ever seeing an obese Indian man, a few obese Indian women, but not Indian men, but then again I live in Australia so the situation might be different in his country.

omegajelly200 4y ago

I think he really is a skinny Indian because upper income level Asians can afford to eat healthy food. Plus as a beta bux he has to qualify for the bare minimum of attraction ie not fat.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

skinny Indian

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

I'm guessing her head banged one too many times against a frat guy's headboard. Saying "it's not your business" to the guy she's literally about to marry is something else.

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Yes.

When a man commits to a woman, everything about her at any time is his business. "His business" is whatever the fuck he decides is his business.

He's paying for it. He's financing it. He's expected to be responsible for it. He's going to suffer if it all goes to shit. So if all this is true, then "his business" is whatever the fuck he decides is "his business".

supremegentleman2 4y ago

The audacity

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jamaicanroach 4y ago

Wouldn't that be their social media?

Thinguy123 4y ago

When a woman tries to dismiss something with an excuse like that (What do you care, it's nothing, not your business. etc), push, push harder than you ever done, don't release the throttle, threaten to move out and call off the relationship, because they want to hide something and if they want to hide something it means they know you wont like it.

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ChosenUndead92 4y ago

note taken, thank you!

supremegentleman2 4y ago

And dump them anyways afterwards because if they have to hide something, its not gonna be good in the first place and youll know shes going to lie to u from then on

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

Also take note of the years of social media blackout. I’m sure this broad had Facebook posts from age 14-17, then a blackout from 18-25? Hmmmmmm wonder what she was doing. Probably just building that therapist salary up to 65k st age 33, clearly didn’t have time to post anything…also who wants to bet that the pictures that her friends showed had chad with a handful of ass in every one! Has me laughing over here.

InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

I saw a girl from school on an app recently so thought I would check on a few others whom I still have on Facebook. So many multi year black ours

Granted many are recent years so they might have moved to insta

Overkillengine 4y ago

threaten

No No. You ask once, politely, and if she obviously tries to dodge the question, it's now a far better use of ones time to immediately clam up and go execute on the exit strategy that one should already have in place as a default. If she does not tell you of her own free will then it's not worth bothering to stick around.

Giving ultimatums is a waste of time. Give consequences. She hides a dealbreaker? Relationship over, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

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Smartcom5 4y ago

Giving ultimatums is a waste of time. Give consequences. She hides a dealbreaker?
Relationship over, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Yup, giving ultimatums is not only a waste of time, but issuing an ultimatum is a sign of desperation.

As Rollo Tomassi points out …

»Ultimatums are declarations of powerlessness. They are loud negotiations of a desire that ultimately becomes an obligation for a woman (or man). Boundaries can be set, but only when you demonstrate them to a woman, never when you explicate them.«

That above not just holds true because Rollo said it, but since it's universal truth and actual wisdom.

Ultimatums are the ultimate expressions of powerlessness, empty threats designed to try to influence a situation someone has no control over. Except you as a man do and have actual power – as you can walk away at any point in time (or at least should be able to do so).

WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 4y ago

This is true. If you’re about to break up with a woman, and especially if the break up is a divorce, carry on like normal until the day you say to her “we’re done”.

maruadventurer 4y ago

Indeed.

One piece of tactical. Shop for the lawyer. Go to the best ones in town. Lay it out. Then pick one. There is a method to the madness. Puts the lawyers in a pickle if the spouse starts shopping. Lawyers don't like even a hint of conflict of interests, its the easiest way for them to lose a license. They may not be honest (politicans==lawyer) but they do like to eat.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

Lawyer here. I second that.

_No-Waifu-No-Laifu_ 4y ago

Fucking unreal how women try to pull that shit even with the man they "love" and want to marry lol. Good on this guy for getting some self respect.

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_No-Waifu-No-Laifu_ 4y ago

To quote the wise warrior poet Snoop Dogg: Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks.

Protect your seed and your assets king, that's all any of them want to lock you down for anyways. She did you a favor in the long run.

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_No-Waifu-No-Laifu_ 4y ago

Buy some pets. Hitching your life to sometime who doesn't care about you so you can feel lonely in your home seems worse to me. It's youre life though; we lead you too knowledge but we can't make you think. If impressing people who couldn't care less about you is important then do a you will.

All I can say is I wish somebody had warned me.

Overkillengine 4y ago

Yup, he was smart enough to know that her past taste in men is also her current and future taste in men, and if he didn't match that, odds are he was getting setup to get plucked like a fat goose.

And her reaction just cemented that suspicion.

mustangfrank 4y ago

You mean leopards cannot change their spots?

omegajelly200 4y ago

Absolutely yes. A woman's biological instincts is IMMUTABLE. NON-NEGOTIABLE, regardless of whether or not her priorities involve marrying.

KneeDeepThought 4y ago

"my tastes have changed" refers only to the material goods and lifestyle, not the romantic partners. she just put the jocks on temporary standby until the marriage contract goes into effect and then she can have her cake and eat it too.

John_Savage69 4y ago

Guy dodged being flavor of the week until her "tastes changed" again.

mustangfrank 4y ago

"my tastes have changed" refers only to the material goods and lifestyle, not the romantic partners. she just put the jocks on temporary standby until the marriage contract goes into effect and then she can have her cake and eat it too.

I was thinking the same thing. Once the ring is on the finger, she can do anything and anyone she wants. And Mr. tall Jock(s) will soon be in the picture and the bed.

Lord_Kano 4y ago

odds are he was getting setup to get plucked like a fat goose.

He was going to allow her to stop working and be a SAHM. She would have been doing the pool boy while he was working long hours and then divorce raped him. This man 100% dodged a bullet here.

vtec__ 4y ago

this!!

Throwaway90618 4y ago

Once kids are in the picture she has the golden ticket. Divorce, her lawyer will give her full custody because she's so oppressed. Huge alimony checks because he "spoils" her.

mustangfrank 4y ago

I knew a man who married a woman with 3 kids. 180K/year in child support she was getting.

The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

...plucked like a fat goose.

You got that right! I knew a guy like this. He was making close to a hundred grand a year, set up his wife who didn't work, didn't do anything, in college so she could ultimately get (I shit you not) a Phd in Urban Legends. Because that was so taxing on her, she spent whatever free time she had spending his money on outrageously overpriced kitch from the 70's. Bunches of glass grapes, a giant fucking coffee table made out of polished rocks- just insane shit. Oh, and she started getting fat. I bet you knew that was coming.

And she came onto me. Twice, privately. I can't tell you how much I hated her for that. I politely declined but I was so fucking angry. I'm going to get too fucking riled if I go into it more but that was her. She had a dude who worked outrageous hours to keep her in whatever kind of comfort she wanted, and it still didn't mean a thing to her.

Now, if you're imagining some femme fatale with throat tattoos, obsessed by fashion and sexuality you'd be wrong. When they met, she was a mousy, bespectacled Plain Jane who was shy and had dated a few guys before but seemed by every metric to be a Sweet Girl. And I guess she was back then. But once all those goodies came on line for her she just decided that the "real her" was a person who bit the hand that fed it. They got divorced and I don't know a lot about what happened but I don't think he took that much of a hit, financially. I looked him up a few years ago because we lost contact but it looks like he's well off, keeping to himself, and just doing his own thing without the need to find someone else to take him for a ride.

I can't blame him.

Profitglutton Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Thank god he's not locked down to another slave master. I'm glad for him that he's enjoying his life and his money on his own terms.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

seemed by every metric to be a Sweet Girl

People are fickle. Machiavelli was already writing about the dangers of being too benevolent without using the whip from time to time, and I bet a few holy books also offer some wisdom in that regard.

That's why a man who's in love and will do anything for the girl is destined to hurt; being fair but firm and somewhat immovable is the best approach - you'll weed out those who are trying to use you and those who stay around are aware of what is expected of them (doesn't mean they won't fuck up, though).

mustangfrank 4y ago

I was laid off from an offshore oil drilling company due to the oil price crash of 2015. I knew a salesman who sold repair services to the company I worked for, and he got laid off within 6 weeks after I did. He was as solid a Joe as you could get. He was active in his church i.e. Sunday school for children, events for adult singles. He was active in the Home Owners Association and City Government. He asked me one day how to write rules limiting access to a new meeting center the city had built, so as to prevent groups like the KKK and Radical Muslims from using it while allowing access for groups like the Boy and Girl Scouts. He was involved with his kids after school activities i.e. soccer for the girls, baseball and football for the boys. He had 5 children and was married for close to 10 years. 5 months into his layoff, his wife filed for divorce. He eventually found work after 8 months of searching.

His wife was a stay at home mom, and she stayed with him as long as the checks cleared, then dumped him when they stopped. How often does this every happen? She was just like most women, first into monogamy and first out when the resource stream dried up or a better one could be found.

BTW Hans was abused all during their marriage. She would slap him or insult him in front of the children. One night he stayed in a hotel to stay away from the abuse. The abuse was present all the time they were together. Why her put up with it, I don’t know.

Updated August 2018. They are back together. I didn’t ask why. I suspect being a single mother of 5 had something to do with it. How many men would raise 5 kids of another man and pay for them, too? Her parents are well off, so maybe they did a cash infusion, to save the marriage and to keep their daughter from doing something even more stupid than divorcing a man who cared for her for 10 years

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Any woman who comes to me and is engaged or with a guy and I know him, I tell him inmediately.

UsingSandAsLubricant 4y ago

Sadly some men don't like when you drop a bomb like that. I lost friendship before when I drop wtf their spouse is saying behing his back to a group of spouse's. Yes I was not the only one, and the funker still forgive her and drop everybody in that group.

Including his own family don't know about him.

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In the end he will understand

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PirateDocBrown 4y ago

That's the real answer, if you have assets. Put it all in trust before marriage, out of reach in case of divorce. Rich people do this all the time.

vtec__ 4y ago

south dakota trust but you need to be a millionare

PirateDocBrown 4y ago

Cayman Islands works great. Best if she doesn't even know it exists.

jmpires 4y ago

I can’t think of anything a PhD in Urban Legends could ever be an entry requirement. Sure as shit ain’t none in the Mythbusters cast.

I-am-the-lul 4y ago

Maybe a job as a presenter or researcher for the History Channel perhaps...?

jmpires 4y ago

The position is taken by the Ancient Aliens guy, however someone with a PhD in Urban Legends is still fit for a 2-episode special in the same show.

Or in TLC’s My Big Fat $600k Gipsy Degree, being mocked in South Park S24 (Kyle’s many deaths are Urban Legend-tier), or some Netflix mini series.

Nothing long term

The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

I once met a person working at Burger King. They weren't that old but they were older than most of the really young people working there. I was waiting for a burger and we were chatting until it was ready, and the person mentioned that they had a Master's in Medieval Costumery. I honestly think a Master's in Medieval Costumery probably has better employment bonuses than an Urban Legends/Urban Myths degree. It's amazing what a college will sell you.

poloppoyop 4y ago

It's amazing what a college will sell you.

Well, there was a time when those kind of degrees were for children of rich people who could get more "culture" while being assured they'd get some good job due to their family.

Then the state started offering loans. And dumb people thought "college = good job. Easy major = easy good job". And a generation secured itself into low wage jobs with crushing debt. Good job, you and your parents played yourself.

The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

God, I'd forgotten that about that vibe. It's been over 30 years since I graduated from high school. You're right.

jmpires 4y ago

I feel scammed enough by my MIT-Portugal “Advanced Studies” degree in Sustainable Energy Systems which, at about $5,500 tuition, was more expensive than my 5-year degree in civil engineering (higher education is nearly free around here). And I got a job in which that was appreciated, spite of barely mentioning it in my résumé, and made more than twice those $5,500 in the first year.

I can’t fathom what someone who buys that college bullshit sales pitch would think of himself (usually, herself) a couple years down the road, and most of the bill yet to pay. It is rather surprising people don’t feel scammed.

mustangfrank 4y ago

Some people just don’t have a complete deck of cards to play with. I know a man who went to Texas A&M for a degree in Philosophy. This was 10 years ago and cost him $32,000 in school loans. Texas A&M is an engineering school, and one of the better in the state. This guy goes to an engineering school or a degree in Philosophy. WTF was he thinking. My 2 year degree paid more at Shell than what he made getting out of school.

cryptothrow2 4y ago

Didn't you learn to at least set up solar, windmills and the like?

jmpires 4y ago

Probably it was mentioned a thousand times but without any applicable knowledge attached to it

It’s good for zero energy design houses tough

The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

As a kind of side topic, I feel that nowdays especially it's pretty easy for a kid to go "I want to be this thing!" and colleges go "That's great because we can make you that thing!" and occasionally cough up hiring stats showing "Some companies are sort of hiring for this thing!"

And then years go by and the person has the degree and they find to actually make a living at that thing is either quite difficult or they have to live in a certain location or know somebody in the field to actually get a job doing that thing.

I mean, I live in a college town and there are so many women working entry level jobs who also have literal degrees in gender studies and who are paying off $30-40k debts it's ridiculous. I used to think it was a joke until a friend of mine was snooping some cuties who worked at a local high-end supermarket- like 1/2 of all of them had gender studies degrees. And this is a pretty small market, too.

tiernach 4y ago

Talk about dodging a bullet. Can you imagine if poor dude had married her and God forbid put a baby in her? 10 years from now she’s the same woman divorcing him taking half his shit and making Reddit posts about finding tingles again…

polishknightusa 4y ago

This is one of the best type posts on this forum and that's saying something. From the wonderful observations below and reading between the lines above, it appears what happened is that she suckered in a beta bucks with the "religious, chaste girl" act and blue balls to get him to commit. Her lie was one of omission most likely. She appears to have scrubbed her own social media and gotten most of her friends to go along up to that point. This reminds me of the "born again virgin" episode of King of the Hill where Luanne gets a second baptism to be a virgin.

Considering she's a liar, we can't trust this but I get the sense that she was sincere that she wanted to do the "born again" thing if only because the "tall white jocks" probably have moved onto younger material and she's post wall and wanting to have kids.

Up until that photo he looked at, she had the fish hooked, line and sinker and was a hero for dual mating young party girls everywhere. That being said, life is tough in the bay area. Yes, salaries for tech geeks are higher, but the cost of living is also so high it's a lot like Manhattan: Long hours to commute an hour a day to a 1 bedroom crack shack costing $2000/month.

Based upon the analysis below, her ex-fiance is probably someone who could easily get an arranged marriage to a younger, chaste girl from the home country but he thought he found a unicorn and he's disappointed and angry.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

Up until that photo he looked at, she had the fish hooked, line and sinker and was a hero for dual mating young party girls everywhere.

As some have said, crabs in a bucket. No way her friends would let one of their slut group get married into an easy life and leave them behind. The first picture might have been an accident, but I'm sure the friend were more than glat to talk about her past to the fiancé.

YungUrbanTurban 4y ago

Trynna to be trophy but don’t have anything to show me, A warm body with a cold heart im used to bein lonely

VeganKetoMan 4y ago

He had enough RP awareness to realize that he was her beta bucks. He wasn’t down for that life so he threw her out on the street where she belongs

DaddySkrags 4y ago

"It shouldn't matter" - It matters because past actions are a reliable indicator of future behaviors. It doesn't take a clairvoyant to see had the man never made this discovery the story would be very different. It'd be 10 years later after having a kid she gets bored of him, starts fucking gym chad, divorces him after getting found out, skins him for every cent he's worth and uses the kid as a hostage.

Overkillengine 4y ago

It'd be 10 years later

These days they often don't even wait that long, they keep getting dick on the side the entire time.

Men would be well served to never doubt that a woman is fucking someone. The question is, who?

Lord_Kano 4y ago

It'd be 10 years later after having a kid she gets bored of him, starts fucking gym chad

She'll justify it with "I just wanted to be happy. He was never at home!"

Well, he was out earning millions of dollars. You can't do that from the couch.

road_laya 4y ago

Ever seen a wife reacting to see her man on her couch? Mine would huff and puff, stomp her feet, and slam doors if I collapsed on the couch as I got home from a long day of work.

EquivalentButton8107 4y ago

Why would women ever believe that they and they alone are exempt from the past predicting future actions or having influence on those actions. So bizarre

rickmackdaddy 4y ago

“…I never have sex with him…” He just realized with whom you had lots of sex.

Rayzor_debiker 4y ago

The rich dude left her?? Hahahahha.

He really is smart.

Also, good post OP. I'm bookmarking this.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

This is why past matters. Lucky him that her tastes have changed and she's not the same girl she used to be, right? Marrying the girl of his dreams, who loves him for who he is... Despite not really being attracted to him.

He can only thank the female impulse to take as many photos as possible without any concerns for the evidence trail they fortuitously leave.

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

I hate social media but in a way it is a blessing. A detailed audit trail with photographic evidence every step of the way.

mustangfrank 4y ago

He can only thank the female impulse to take as many photos as possible without any concerns for the evidence trail they fortuitously leave.

thank God for George Eastman.

Overkillengine 4y ago

her tastes have changed

A lesson here for the peanut gallery:

Their tastes never actually change, just their circumstances.

They want to fuck the same kind of man at 19 and 39, the question is just what kind of man they can actually get. It's not going to be the same at each age bracket.

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Preferences don't change. Only priorities change.

robb_stark89 4y ago

"I didn’t think I’d fall for you", yes, "I wouldn’t have dated you 10 years ago", no.

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

Salute to this man for finally picking up on the social media blackout phase. SMART. Women post their entire lives in social media down to what they ate for lunch on some random Tuesday. If she has a large gap in social media history, you already know why deep down.

snooo5285 4y ago

Everyone is surprised

really?

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Men with a future don't want women with a past.

Llawgoch25 4y ago

Well that was a rollercoaster, went from "guy is overreacting" to "Christ, he's had a lucky escape" in just a few paragraphs

bandook84 4y ago

Her own friends stabbed her in the back. This shows her real personality

deckran 4y ago

She sealed the deal with the "not your business" when asked about her past. She's going to marry this guy and presumably spent the rest of her life with him (unless it's the usual bait and switch divorce situation) and she's already openly keeping secrets from the start. A serious relationship built on lies. Good on the guy for realizing it and getting the hell out of there.

Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

her past

I am pretty sure she did not act as a "wild party girl" when they met. She was playing a king pleasant relationship woman, but surprise surprise, only when her best years were over.

ryandiy 4y ago

Yeah he already has a dead bedroom relationship before the wedding and then he realizes she was probably regularly giving head in the club bathroom for Chad.

He was excited because she’s the hottest woman he’s ever dated but then he realizes what a shitty deal this is for him. He’s giving the most and getting the least. Plus she’ll soon be cheating on him and divorcing him. Then he’ll be paying her monthly expenses in alimony so she doesn’t have to work while she’s with the next guy.

The betas are waking up. They don’t want to become an indentured servant to some gold digger former party girl like this.

mustangfrank 4y ago

only when her best years were over.

Strange how that does not work as well as when she was 23.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

See, they tend to act like weak, respectable women, pretty much everywhere but they especially like to exploit all the good things given to them by society. It is like they feel entitles to it, when they are not. They act headstrong for the man they have married, to take advantage of but will bow down to anyone they think is hawt. This is everywhere, men on the sub should know this as a fact that asia has long been infested by woke pseudo feminism.

OracleofFl 4y ago

She sealed the deal when she stopped having sex with him!

TriumphAnt462X0 4y ago

She didn't read the memo all the way to the end. Ladies, you can't start phoning it in until after the wedding.

[deleted] 4y ago

Q: Why do brides smile while they walk down the wedding aisle?

A: They realize they've given their last blowjob.

FaeVandal 4y ago

The secret to getting as many as you want, hell more than you want is to make her think you are not impressed.

Early in my marriage we made a bet I ever a stupid detail, she was CERTAIN she was correct but since I am smarter than your average bear I won the bet and collected my 50 bj tokens.

I've not spent one of them.

This has driven her to ever higher heights of attempts to tempt me with oral performances.

But this bear knows the game and plays it well.

Lameador 4y ago

Impressive, though I can't ask for more details due to rule 4. Top quality post. I would be very curious to see thread answers.

It seems obvious to me that neither SHE(33F) nor many western women commenters do even UNDERSTAND why the guy reacted this way. She even might be thinking that she is sincerely loving him.

On the other hand, the guy's situations is not that optimal either : I think he has to come confortable with the fact that he is a rich beta. While it's technically true that the most attractive part of him is in his pants, just below the waist, it does not change the fact that he seduces with his wallet and/or social status. I would advise he takes a more transactionnal approach to relationships.

Actually, their marriage could have been mended easily if, instead of saying "past does not matter" she went into"I love the whole of you and will *** your *** every day since pus*** is an important part of what I bring to OUR relationship".

Dazzling-Importance1 4y ago

Ya she shot herself in her foot by not offering the only thing she has. Guy got suspicious and it ended there. She couldn't even wait till marriage to stop having sex

HologramEventHorizon 4y ago

There is a very simple solution to this problem, particularly for a guy as well off as this man was. It's called "a prenup."

Don't want this former party girl to divorce rape you? Get a prenup. A prenup can be as specific as you like - down to keeping assets separate, keeping the growth of separate assets separate as opposed to marital property, determining how much money hubby will give her as an allowance, a complete and total mutual irrevocable waiver of spousal support - you can literally craft your own divorce before you get married. The only thing (at least in Virginia) on which a prenup cannot bind a divorce court is the matter of child custody and support - but with his assets he can ask for, and will probably get, shared 50/50 parenting time, and guidelines are used to set child support.

If you don't want a girl with a past, then don't marry this girl. But if you don't mind her past (perhaps you have one as well) and your only concern is not to get divorce-raped, then have her sign a pre nuptial . Have her get her own lawyer to negotiate for her; but if she won't sign it on the terms you want, then call the marriage off. If she signs and the marriage goes forward, then you are protected.

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throwaway---1000 4y ago

Prenup is fine, but the issue for this guy was beyond protecting his assets. He just didn't want a wife who wasn't physically attracted to him, and just wanted his money and status so she could raise her kids in financial bliss.

It's evident in how, when he brings up that she doesn't make him feel attractive, she starts harping on about their future kids and being a family and her being a stay at home mom lol

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

a stay at home mom

She wants this. Pretty much this is the shit that women want now, even in India/South Asia. They think household work is bad, party meetings with friends are fun, lying to your husband is fun, commenting and demeaning men is fun and what not.

Men, you should know your womens past so you do not get together with a reformed "insert-religion" "insert-debauchery" type girl. Hell no. If they are the only ones available, still go away from them. Many today marry and then want to remain in contact with their exes or do no tell this to the husband.They wait for the marriage to be over.Blood suckers.

loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

Prenups are toilet paper. They get thrown out of court all the time.
If you have to jump through elaborate hoops to protect yourself from the marriage system, it's because the system is terrible!

HologramEventHorizon 4y ago

You don't want your pre-nup invalidated? Then go to a lawyer and have it done right. I've been practicing law for 25 years. I've written probably 100 prenups. Maybe 3 have gone to litigation. All 3 were upheld.

I was just involved in a case (I did not write this prenup, but litigated about it). H and W had a HUGE disparity in income and assets - the prenup forbade W from accepting a power-of-attorney appointment from H, provided that H could waive that requirement by specifically referencing and waiving that portion of the prenup in the POA. In 2014, after almost 30 years of marriage, H gave W a POA that failed to reference the prenup waiver requirement. Wife moved \~$435,000 of H's money using the POA into accounts controlled by W in the 18 months between receiving the POA and H's death. H's executrices sued W to put the money back into the estate. The judge did nothing at trial other than read the prenup, note the mention/waiver requirement, find that the POA did not mention the prenup, and granted judgment for the estate for the entire $435,00 plus interest from the date W moved the money.

The point I'm making here is this . . . don't come here with your bullshit "prenups are toilet paper" pronouncements - admittedly, there is no study about this question, but the anecdotal evidence I have is that if they are done RIGHT (i.e., getting the wife independent counsel, making a record that that independent counsel represented her during the whole process, and hewing EXACTLY to the prenup statute in your own state), they are EXTREMELY effective in protecting your assets and limiting your support payments in the event of a divorce.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

I'm glad you were able to help things turn out well for your clients.

I've read and seen many other occasions where the judge pretty much threw it out. The wife would claim she signed it "under duress", which is a joke as "i won't marry you without it" is not the same thing as a gun to the head.

if they are done RIGHT (i.e., getting the wife independent counsel, making a record that that independent counsel represented her during the whole process, and hewing EXACTLY to the prenup statute in your own state)

/u/loneliness-inc already addressed that:

If you have to jump through elaborate hoops to protect yourself from the marriage system, it's because the system is terrible!

Those are some elaborate-ass hoops you described.

Also, that's all wonderful if the man's already well-off and can afford to pay someone like you to do that kind of legwork. Where does that leave young men who are full of potential but haven't started earning that much money yet? I'll tell you: at the mercy of whatever woman they marry and the courts, after they're now doing well and the woman decides she's booooooooored and/or unhaaaaaaaaaaaappy.

They're far better off just not marrying. The whole system is broken as hell.

HologramEventHorizon 4y ago

I definitely get where you're coming from. The situation that you describe (each starting off with nothing, husband builds up business/becomes successful) is definitely the most common. Interestingly enough, I've seen a LOT of situations where the wife actually helps the husband become successful (usually by working while husband finishes med/law school). In SOME states, that degree is considered property, and the present value of that degree is a marital asset and the husband is fucked. In Virginia where I practice, that degree itself is not considered property; but the wife's help in attaining that degree is considered a factor in dividing marital property and spousal support.

Most judges TRY to get it right and balance the equities between the divorcing parties - but in 25 years of doing this, I've NEVER left a contested divorce hearing where EITHER party is happy - the more-well-off spouse thinks he or she was raped; the less-well-off spouse feels she didn't get enough. Interestingly, I JUST did my FIRST same-sex marriage separation agreement, and the two guys were about the best I have ever seen in coming to a reasonable division of their assets - and it was done by agreement and not a contested hearing.

I guess, after all this, the best advice I can give is: (a) don't get married; but (b) if you do, get a pre nuptial agreement.

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and they don't know what is going on with him.

I love how she deflects all accountability.

jack_Me_hoffman 4y ago

"From the streets she came and to the streets she shall return" - Lord Future

maddog3 4y ago

The moment anyone says that past is just the past so we should ignore it, is when they've already lost the argument.

I don't see these women lining up to have "reformed" just out of jail pedophiles babysitting their kids, because, well, it's all in the past right?

Profitglutton Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Ooooh snap. She lost the easiest meal ticket she was ever going to have and one that was possibly once in a life time. She barely had sex with him, and once the ring is on her finger we know the story that would play out. She will almost never put out, use his money for all sorts of shopping trips, take advantage of his work schedule to screw the guys she really wants behind his back and maybe get pregnant by them.

She had it all made. A perfect, high earning target that would be exceedingly easily to cheat on and one single picture gave away her entire scheme. I think this man has grasped an inkling of the type of nuke he just avoided entering his life.

aesthetic_anus_43 4y ago

God I hate alliteration

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Then ignore it.

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Pubesauce 4y ago

Yeah, the alliteration and Irish terms titles are about as cringe as the women being featured.

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1500minus12 4y ago

Your username is alliteration.

aesthetic_anus_43 4y ago

And so the spider gets caught in her own web

1500minus12 4y ago

How the turntables have turned friend.

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[deleted] 4y ago

Looks like we misunderestimated him.

[deleted] 4y ago

i hate when people say the past is the past

the past is a good indicator of the future and the person as a whole

if becky or chad has been in 16 relationships and cheated in all 16 of them i can assume they’d cheat in the next one lol

Lord_Kano 4y ago

i hate when people say the past is the past

It's midnight and there's a stranger standing in your living room...
"What are you doing in my house!?"

"That doesn't matter. What matters is that I'm leaving now."

lavishrabbit6009 4y ago

Good on him. No one wants to be the clean up guy.

houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4y ago

Now this is quite a find. I don't know how you keep it up with the titles, but you have done it again!

my ex is a senior software engineer/TechLead making 600k/yr

Now that is quite the pretty penny to earn! According to income percentiles, he is in the top 1% for earnings. She can say all she wants, but that fat paycheck is a large motivator for why she was ever in a relationship with him.

I told him the past was the past...[he] started asking me a bunch of questions. I told him it's none of his business.

Like hell it isn't! She wants this man to marry her and have a ~~lifetime commitment~~ contractual agreement which she can break at any time and get a lot financial benefit by ending. He has every right to ask these questions and get the full honest answer. Given that he is having all these questions now, this is all very new information and he now realizes that his fiance had quite a bit he was unaware of.

He told me that I never make him feel attractive and that I never have sex with him because I'm not attracted to him and that this proves it... I'm not the that same girl I used to be...we were just young and dumb and having fun.

As my flair will indicate, I am a Christian. As a Christian, I find premarital sex to be immoral and do not advocate for such activity. What I see here is not a woman who holds back on sex because she has these Christian morals (or other religious morals as Christianity is not the only religion that advocates for this type of restraint), but a woman who is tried to sell a false picture of herself to her fiance so that she could imply that she was "not that kind of girl." Well, she was that kind of girl, and for whatever reason, she is not that kind of girl for him.

Let us ponder this question: would he have agreed to be in a relationship with her in the first place had he known that she had the past that she had? From what we can see, that answer is no. Perhaps she would have had a better chance of having it work out had she been open and honest from the start, but we can assume the very reason she withheld that information because she suspected how that would have turned out. "I had quite a wild past of sex, but I am going to stop doing that with my relationships. Do you still want a relationship with me?"

This is exactly why young women are warned about not being promiscuous. Most men are not interested in committing to a slut. Especially not one that hid her past and thinks that the man she claims to be the most important to her is the one she is least giving to. Every woman who complains about that being "judgmental" or "slut shaming" needs to understand that making such choices can have lifelong consequences. Spare me the talk about hurt feelings now, it will hurt a lot more for a woman to be struggling to find a man who is willing to commit to her because she decided that instant gratification was more important than her future.

And now, this woman is paying quite the price for her past. Were those "losers" you had fun sleeping with worth it? I am sure that you thought that it was reassuring to tell your ex that you did not want to start a family with them. Even if she regrets her actions now (even if only for the consequences), she sure did not care enough back then to make different choices when they mattered most.

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

I don't know how you keep it up with the titles, but you have done it again!

Thanks!

Especially not one that hid her past and thinks that the man she claims to be the most important to her is the one she is least giving to.

That's the stingiest part. "I love sex, all kinds of sex! I love doing everything there is to do, I love being a slut, I love pushing boundaries! Just not with you".

NoonTimeHoopsMVP 4y ago

All she had to do was have sex with with him a few times and she had it made. An act that she had done hundreds of times with other men.

Obviously, she shouldn't have jumped on the carousel in the first place. But she still almost pulled it off.

It sucks to hell for any guy to realize that the women who supposedly loves you enough to marry won't have sex but to realize that she had no problem sharing the gold with the college boyfriends must burn. How hamulating.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

How hamulating.

really tempted to make that your new flair lol

vtec__ 4y ago

GOOD FOR HIM, HE DODGED A BULLET!

SeriousMannequin 4y ago

I was recently shown a similar match like this as well.

She was 27 and was ready to settle down. ^Totally not because she has visa problems, needed an immediate solution, and suddenly I was an attractive option for her.

Made a hard pass at that one.

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

You should have tore up them holes first then been like "nah I'm really not feeling it."

saberwarthog 4y ago

oh yeah, once again a broad think she could keep the veneer of respectability & worth she created to latch onto her future betabuck...
Until he wakes up & discover that he didn't got even a taste of what she offered to the jocks that were there before him.

The funniest part is that she's mad at losing her winning lottery ticket, but not at her "friend" for revealing the rest of the truth...
(This friend didn't got her best interest a heart, or knew that the cat was so much out of the box that telling the truth wasn't much of a bigger problem.)

If she really was into him, she would have been all over him sexually, she would have fucked his brains out much more repeatedly to the point that when he saw those pictures of her past boyfriends, he would have though that he got at least the same deal, or something even better.
A man doesn't like to see that he got a worst deal while having to work more for it.

mustangfrank 4y ago

If she really was into him, she would have been all over him sexually, she would have fucked his brains out much more repeatedly to the point that when he saw those pictures of her past boyfriends, he would have though that he got at least the same deal, or something even better.

You nailed it. Sooooooooooooooooooooooo true. the truth is in the quality of sex.

mustangfrank 4y ago

A man doesn't like to see that he got a worst deal while having to work more for it.

This is why you don't date single moms.

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jymssg 4y ago

And probably bang the nannies too

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Story as old as time. Only difference is that now, women are writing and talking about them openly.

Let's fisk this a little more.

"I'm not attracted to him because of his success but because he's a smart knind man who I know would make a great father to the children we'd have together."

First of all, the man makes $600k a year plus investments. He's 35 years old and is already a multimillionaire. THAT is why a 33 year old post waller is with him. No other fucking reason. She's with him for his money. Full stop.

Second, this is how women talk about beta bux men they're using for money and commitment. "Smart" "kind" "great father". Not ONCE did she say she likes fucking him or even that she does fuck him at all.

Third: Note how the definition of "attractive" changes to mean whatever a woman wants it to mean at the time. Women do this because they want to attach virtue to their motivations. They also do this so you cannot ever question them about what they do or why they do it. It CANNOT be that she's with the guy because she's using him for his money and commitment. No, she is "attracted" to him.

That's the fourth point: Women demand the right to question men about whatever they want. And his answers better be satisfactory to her or there will be hell to pay. But whenever men want to know something, women start huffing and puffing and getting all pissed and indignant. "none of your business". "I don't want to talk about that."

Women do this because they know they're getting called out on their shit, and they don't want to face up and fess up. Women never ever want to be held accountable for what they say and do, or what they said and did. They don't want to be judged or rejected. They cannot handle judgment or rejection. They ESPECIALLY cannot handle judgment and rejection when a beta bux is doing the judging and rejecting. Women can understand a hot guy judging and rejecting them. But when a less attractive man she settled for is doing it? All fucking HELL breaks loose.

If her fiance were just some guy, OK, then yeah, maybe he doesn't get to ask about her past. He doesn't get to ask questions. But this man was going to be her husband. So if he's investing everything, he gets to ask whatever the fuck he wants and her answers better be satisfactory to him. If he is committing, he gets to know whatever the fuck he wants to know about her, and to find it out by any means necessary. If he is committing, everything about her at ANY time is very much his business. He's paying for it financially, emotionally, mentally, and psychologically, so it's his goddamn fucking business.

Notice how he found out: One of her bridesmaids had a social media page photo of this woman with a prior boyfriend. He asked a bunch of questions; she started getting huffy. One of her friends then spilled the beans and showed him pics of all this woman's prior boyfriends. And told him his bride to be was a "wild party girl".

And then he started putting 2 and 2 together.

-- he noticed how different he is from all her prior boyfriends.

-- he noticed that she doesn't make him feel attractive.

-- he noticed that she never has sex with him.

Then notice how she responded. "my tastes changed because I want to start a family". Yep. Uh huh. That proves it, motherfuckers. And no, her tastes didn't change. Her PRIORITIES changed. Otherwise, she wouldn't have talked about wanting to start a family.

Notice also how she talks about her friends. They betrayed her. Her bridesmaid having a pic of her with a past boyfriend on Facebook is a "betrayal". Her friend giving her fiance the lowdown on her past is a "betrayal". What does that tell you? "These friends were supposed to keep my secrets! These friends were not supposed to talk about my past! They were supposed to lie for me! They were supposed to make me look like the "good girl" I want to be now instead of the cumslut I really am!"

It tells you she wanted to lie to her fiance. It tells you she wanted to keep him in the dark about how she REALLY feels about him. It tells you she wanted to be free to use, exploit, and take advantage of him, bleed him dry of his money, and then divorce his dessicated husk.

I hope this man never talks to this cunt ever again. And I hope you men take this as yet another object lesson in how women treat men, and how you need to protect yourselves.

I hope you especially take note of how this woman wrote about it in this euphemistic, passive aggressive, mealy mouthed, indirect way. She won't just come out and say he's a beta bux, she's a gold digger, and she's using and exploiting him. No, she'll say things like

--"smart, kind, good father"

--"none of your business"

-- "I'm not like that anymore"

--"my tastes changed because I want a family"

Ladies: You do not fucking get to tell your man that it's "none of his business". When you are getting married, "his business" is whatever the fuck he decides it is. If you don't like that, don't get married, and go pay for your shit yourself and do it all yourself. Or, go marry someone else you can use, exploit, and take advantage of. Or go back to the carousel and the jocks you love fucking.

You don't get to have it both ways. You want to fuck hot guys and then marry a beta bux? Expect to answer for it later. Expect to answer the questions and take whatever comes down the pike.

I also hope you ladies understand that you will get caught. You're seriously mistaken if you think your man will never find out. If he wants to find out, he will. And this man found out just like your old Uncle Al says happens. This happened as it usually does: one of her friends spilled the beans accidentally with a social media pic. And another friend sang like a canary and gave him everything from his bride to be's past. Ladies: We will find out. We always do. And you must answer for your pasts.

You will be held to account. You will be required to answer.

And you're just pissed that the jig is up and you can't get away with this shit anymore.

OwenWentFullMGTOW 4y ago

Women can understand a hot guy judging and rejecting them. But when a less attractive man she settled for is doing it? All fucking HELL breaks loose.

Huh. Now this is a good point. And somehow, I overlooked it originally. But the tart wrote:

I'm so embarrassed and can't believe he'd do this to me

When you think about it, that's an extremely odd thing to say. And it's an extremely odd way to phrase it. At least at first.

And yet, it makes perfect sense when you consider that she'd found a beta mega bux provider. She's getting rejected by him. Of course she's embarrassed about that. Of course she can't believe HE would do this to HER. Because SHE does the rejecting, not the beta. How dare he reject HER? Her moral outrage is dripping off her every word.

It's... perfectly logical. Great point you made there, good job.

AzLibDem 4y ago

"These girls don't fool me. They go with Vinnie for four years and then marry Irv, he's a good provider, ya know?"

- Rodney Dangerfield

RealMcGonzo 4y ago

Not ONCE did she say she likes fucking him or even that she does fuck him at all.

Even worse, she is comparing her past to this guy and says

We were just young and dumb and having fun.

IOW, he's old and smart and not fun.

Also the part about "tall white jocks" makes me think her beta bucks candidate was nonwhite and short.

JC7577 4y ago

Probably one of the best breakdown on a post here in a long time. Well done!

lavishrabbit6009 4y ago

Eesh this is gunna give some female lurkers an anxiety attack. That was so cutthroat.

cautionTomorrow555 4y ago

They ESPECIALLY cannot handle judgment and rejection when a beta bux is doing the judging and rejecting. Women can understand a hot guy judging and rejecting them. But when a less attractive man she settled for is doing it? All fucking HELL breaks loose.

I figured that out when I started rejecting women who had baby rabies I have NEVER seen women that mad before. They were practically throwing tantrums in public and one basically did. The general attitude is You are the beta bailout the only reason I am talking to you is because of money and I want a kid you don't get to make decisions and tell me no! Massive entitled attitude and they just couldn't mentally process the fact I still have a choice and can tell them no. It was like dealing with a spoiled child who wants something and has never been told no before in his life the kid just can't mentally handle it. They looked at me as a slave saying no and they could no longer whip me because I was now free.

mustangfrank 4y ago

I was divorced and dating. A friend sets me up with a nurse. She was a high school cheerleader and still had a nice body and face, but she was 40. She says to me, I am short, but i will date you. I took her phone number, then at home flushed it down the toilet. I didn't tell her that 4 days before I met a 5'7" age 24 girl that said nothing about my height. I am 5'8".

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

You should have told her you had a younger hotter girl already.

cautionTomorrow555 4y ago

As womens age goes up so too does their demands even though they provide less to the man it is the most ridiculous thing. You are bringing dramatically less to the table, but are demanding more? Women are crazy. I would rather be alone than date these leftover moldy rotten women. I would say it would make sense to date younger, but I am nowhere near good looking enough to pull that off so alone it is.

polishknightusa 4y ago

Aside from the wonderful points you made, thank you for using the term "fisk". I thought you might be a tech geek as in I use the term "fsck" for a similar purpose. Turns out to be an actual word. Much thanks.

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Yeah. Origin is that bloggers were critiquing articles line by line, point by point, which articles were by a man named Robert Fisk. So the act of point by point, line by line critique/takedown like some bloggers were doing, became known as "fisking".

polishknightusa 4y ago

So it's a recent word. Interesting.

I'm going to use the term fsck and wait for someone to spell flame me and then say: 'That's the way I MEANT to spell it!"

FSCK: "FileSystem ChecK"

mustangfrank 4y ago

MODS This is a masterpiece. This needs to be added to Recommend Reading along with Mr. A's comments and the original article.

moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

This will be added to the recommended reading in the child sub.

mustangfrank 4y ago

I have looked for it, and I cannot fine it.

moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre/wiki/recomended_reading/

moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

Well said.

Women can understand a hot guy judging and rejecting them.

No. They cannot. They will still huff and puff. They cannot call him a loser to their friends because of his status, but they will damn sure try to pretend as if they are above the guy and do not really find him that interesting. With a beta though, they will outright shame him and shit on him.

Notice also how she talks about her friends. They betrayed her.

If she thinks they betrayed her, that means two things:

She views him as the enemy. Not a partner. You don't keep secrets from your partner. You work with them to find a resolution. You absolutely keep secrets from your enemies. He was absolutely going to get divorce raped.
This shows how utterly selfish she is. She wants her friends to serve her and her expectation for the husband would not be any different.

Profitglutton Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Perfectly said. Especially point number one. I’ve had that thought for a while. If a woman is with someone they claim to love them why do they always want them to ask for marriage? The answer is because they don’t trust them. She doesn’t trust the man to be there for her through thick and thin so she needs that insurance policy just in case the ship hits rocky waters.

And conversely you could argue she doesn’t love him. Chris Rock had a joke where he said most women don’t marry their first choice and the divorce rates can be partly attributed to that.

RuskinBondFan 4y ago

She views him as the enemy. Not a partner.

That's a revelation. Putting this in context of a recent post about how women hate having to have sex with unattractive males, this makes perfect sense.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

I said this in a different comment already, but the "betrayed" line is most likely just her emotional spin on it. Her ex-fiance likely came at the friend asking for younger pictures, then moved to "oh, who's that? Is that the kind of guy she always dated?" and as long as he sounded curious rather than judgmental, the friend would have no reason to suspect anything.

I think that also goes with what you said about the use of "betrayed", and how she doesn't view him as a partner or ally.

moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

but the "betrayed" line is most likely just her emotional spin on it. Her ex-fiance likely came at the friend asking for younger pictures, then moved to "oh, who's that? Is that the kind of guy she always dated?" and as long as he sounded curious rather than judgmental, the friend would have no reason to suspect anything.

I don't think either of them had enough clarity to be that savvy. They were both emotional at those points. We also don't know how much she revealed to her friends also. Maybe she claimed that she told her fiance everything but did not. Maybe she never said anything to her friends. We don't know because we will have to hear the other side and we cannot go by her side.

She definitely sees him as a resource and not a partner. Hence why she hid, manipulated and is pissed.

FaeVandal 4y ago

Frenemies.

You, me, most guys, our friends are our friends. Sure some of them are not ride or die dispose of the body and never speak of it friends but we would never stab any of them in the back and we look out for their interests when we can. When we have an issue we have out with it and done. Friendship survives or it doesn't.

Woman are not like that. In every circle of girlfriends there are secret slights that are never reconciled or even addressed festering. Many of them are just itching for the chance to sink in he knife good and proper.

I would bet money that's what happened here.

One of the "friends" waited a long time to sink that knife and sunk it well.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

That's possible.

I still think it's more likely that it went down the way I said.

Hell, it could be both.

NoonTimeHoopsMVP 4y ago

I have no doubt that one of those friends was jealous that a former party girl companion was able to land a millionaire. I am sure her hamster was repeating "she was just as dirty and depraved as you! Why should she land that wallet!"

And when the fiancé asked the question that opened the door. She could tell herself that she didn't spill it to create drama. She was merely answering a question.

polishknightusa 4y ago

I had cops try to use this tactic on me (in a rather crude way that I saw through) where they'd pretend to express sympathy or joking around to get me to let me guard down and confess something stupid.

cryptothrow2 3y ago

Good Cop Bad Cop

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

A common interrogation tactic because it works.

mustangfrank 4y ago

"oh, who's that? Tall jock

"oh, who's that? Tall jock

"oh, who's that? Tall jock

10 years later, I love nerds.

RealMcGonzo 4y ago

10 years later, I love (rich) nerds.

mustangfrank 4y ago

I stand corrected.

Zero-Milk 4y ago

Someone re-watched V for Vendetta recently, I see.

thistlexthorn 4y ago

Wayne? Is that you?

OwenWentFullMGTOW 4y ago

Not buying this story. There's something she's not telling us.

I don't think merely seeing her exes would be enough to push that guy over the edge. She talks about being "betrayed" by her friend. I think there are pics/video of Little Miss Innocent doing things with her exes that the tech guy could never dream of getting. And that's what her friend showed him. Naturally, he hit the roof.

But she doesn't want to mention that in her post because she knows exactly how that will sound to most people. So, she has to make everything seem as innocuous as possible.

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

There is a YouTube video on this one with an update.

OwenWentFullMGTOW 4y ago

Link?

Itsjustnickg 4y ago

See the new post above. It's all typed out including update

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Rule 4.

Don't look for or comment on the original.

mustangfrank 4y ago

You mean she was repackaging herself as snow white, but photos and videos showed different?

Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Snow White gangbanged by The Seven Jocks!

mustangfrank 4y ago

Snow White gangbanged by The Seventy Jocks!

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Rule 4. Don't go looking for the original.

WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 4y ago

I’m not attracted to him because of his success but because he’s a smart kind man who I know would make a great father

Translation: He’s the “husband material” guy. Notice she never said he’s good looking? Poor guy. This dude just got the most brutal of red pills. He is the guy she settled for after she had her fun. He spent his 20s working his ass off, and probably getting friendzoned by girls like his fiancée, to get to where he’s at, and this is his reward. Wonder how many times he got told he was “husband material”. Wonder how many times women told him he’s “such a nice guy” and that he should “never change”. At least he got out before he was locked in. He’s saved himself from years of pain and thousands of dollars to get a divorce.

I’m so embarrassed and can’t believe he’s do this to me.

Yeah, I mean hiding your past from him up until you’re about to get married and refusing to even discuss it doesn’t even compare. I really wonder what she would think if she discovered photos of him with multiple hot women, or if she found a sex tape of him fucking some chicks brains out. The past doesn’t matter and it’s none of her business, right?

Note to any women lurking here: your past matters. If you end up marrying some guy like the one here, understand that he will find out about your past one way or another. Make better decisions now so they don’t bite you in the ass years down the road.

polishknightusa 4y ago

I'm chuckling a bit in that if she had discovered photos of him with hot women, perhaps she would have gotten the hots for him via pre-selection and had more sex with him.

ryandiy 4y ago

This guy knows the game

Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

photos of him with hot women

There are services for that. Men/women pay attractive women/men to pose with them.

Mission-Document5257 4y ago

It's a good thing these bitches are so stupid...if she'd fucked his brains out for a while, she'd have gotten her hooks into him & divorce raped him a few years later.

drunk_texan 4y ago

Can I just compliment that alliteration??

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

Thanks, dude!

hago4 4y ago

i assume you watch bojack horseman

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_Remember_me_not_ 4y ago

He just figured out why he wasn't getting any action. It would be another thing if she was a nun throughout her life but after figuring out her wild past, anyone would be disgusted with the hypocrisy and irony and move on.

Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Why are any of you debating this tard?

His insecurity

That right there, using feminine manipulating and shaming language to silence a man from expressing legitimate concerns shows that this white knight isn't worthy of another thought.

His ass is out of here, if one of the other mods didn't beat me to it.

I hope she saw it, bro!

loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

Why are any of you debating this tard?

Exactly!

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So fucking what? It's important to him. He wants to know it.

He's paying for this relationship. He's financing it. He's expected to be responsible for it. He's going to suffer if it all goes to shit (and this WOULD have gone to shit, trust me). So if he wants to know it and it's important to him, then it's his fucking business and who are you or anyone else to call him "insecure" because he wants to know it?

People do due diligence on business deals all the time. They do it to increase their security. They do it so they know what the deal is and what they're buying for their money. They do it because they're saying to the prospective partner:

This is a huge time and money investment. I need to know more. I am going to make myself feel more secure by digging around and making sure that you're being honest, on the level, and making full disclosure.

At bottom, I need security. I am going to get that security by finding out what I want and need to find out, and I expect you to make full disclosure and not attempt to hide things. So crack open the books, open the hood, and let's have a look at who and what you REALLY are.

People run background checks on others all the time. If you want a loan from a bank, it will check your entire credit history and get a list of all your asset holdings. If you want a job, your prospective employer will run a background check on you and contact all your past employers. Hell, if you want to be a volunteer working with kids in any capacity, you will be told to consent to a criminal background check to make sure you're not a ch!ld m0l3st3r, or a murderer.

If you say "well, that's none of your business", the bank will not loan you money, the employer will not hire you, and the organization will not approve you volunteering for them.

Hell, a woman will ask YOU about YOUR past: Your jobs, where you lived, where you went to school, where you're from, where you grew up, your family, all that. If you have children, she wants to know it. If you have a criminal past, she wants to know it. She wants to know about your present too: Where you work now, what you drive, where you live. Essentially, proxies for your monetary wealth. So the past IS relevant.

But women lose their ever loving shit whenever a man wants to know about HER past. So that makes us men ask: Why is it the past is relevant in EVERY GODDAMN THING other than a woman's past sexual history?

Hmmmm?

Why is that??

loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

Why is it the past is relevant in EVERY GODDAMN THING other than a woman's past sexual history?

Because they don't like being human beings!

In their own words: stop objectifying me!

So we allowed women into the workforce to prove that they can indeed do anything a man can do, pregnant, in high heels....

We're still waiting, ladies

Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

This should be an endorsed post by itself. We are always trying to do some kind of dilligence throughout life - from those you pointed to simply avoiding strangers in a dark alley. And yet, when it's about commitment for life*, we're supposed to defenestrate caution because "she loves you"?

*Conditions may apply.

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Two things:

1) If women are entitled to know about the background of a man pointing to his good future, then men are entitled to know about the background of a woman pointing to her good past.

2) What matters is that he wants to know it. It's important to him. He wants to know it. Just as he might not understand why she might want to know something about her, she still wants to know it.

So why in the ever loving fuckity FUCK does she get to know what SHE wants; but everyone loses their minds when HE wants to know something HE wants?

Reason: because him wanting to know about her past means he gets to judge her and it because it opens her up to possible rejection. Because it makes her feel bad.

Because she is being held accountable and judged according to her actions.

Because it allows a man to judge whether she is better or worse than other women.

Because it means he gets to apply HIS criteria and standards to HER. Because it means he wants and needs things from her and he is finding out if she can give him those things.

Ladies: When it comes to relationships and marriage, we men get to judge. When it comes to what you get from us men, WE GET TO FUCKING JUDGE YOU.

sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 4y ago

Insecure? Yeah, I'll give you that, but he's also SMART. He bailed out knowing that the relationship was going to end badly for him. He may be emotionally insecure, but financially he's an absolute fucking genius.

Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

emotionally insecure

Man, its not as if he is marrying someone who had only one boyfriend and she was the one who dumped him because he was cheating. We are talking about a wild ass party girl, so how, when every other man on this forum will never wife her up, does make this man insecure? He is pretty much secure right there.

Many men here, can tell stories, anecdotes about how the "WIFE" had some ex from her past come back and she got together with hum, "just once". Hell, many have been cheated and still that will not make people insecure but cautious and yeah, its good.

A woman had posted how someone sent her boyfriend a sex video of her with her pervious bf and he had a very very large penis and she was hurting and abusive and whatnot. Man, how can a guy even think of having sex then with someone they thought was totally open with them? She never did anything like that with him, no to any other sex act, lied too about her past.

If that stuff, if i acknowledge the insecure part here, will not make a man depressed and insecure, then what will? Good thing the guy moved on, but that insecurity of his, as many other people are saying, will make him more cautious than before of the past.

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Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

Look, "totally a man and not a woman pretending to be a dude" leave how awesome your girlfriend's penis is out of this.

I have NEVER in my entire life - heard a man - even a blue pill one. Say the words that you are saying about your girlfriend in that way.

Nice. Try.

In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.

Rules of conduct:

1. No shaming men for any reason.
2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.

Rules for submission:

5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.

Recommended reading:

Link Flair:

The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.

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