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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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gentle_lemon 3y ago
"we are very secure in our relationship"...built on a fundamental lie.
ps. dude, the alliteration in the titles is out of control. :-P
Gxl4 3y ago
“Proper garden tool”
20 guys in 24 months, followed by the blame game is a classic, like a small kid, however small kids shit on the carpet, and in their pants, not on grown up men.
Not sure why someone would stick around for her. Actions have consequence sweetie..
cautionTomorrow555 3y ago
That is a new guy every 1.2 months really not the sign of a healthy person or one meant for long term relationships.
Gxl4 3y ago
If you find ‘a healthy one’ in the wild, you found a unicorn, or a pixie.
I’m not saying it cant be done, but you need to sift through a lot of shit to find one, and even if so, are you rly going to put up with the negging, shit tests and going to over her boring friends birthday party cuz soyboy soyciety tells you to? i’m not willing to do so since my time is to valuable for me personally.
Rocko2552 3y ago
I do find it funny that she claim it's sexist to shame female promiscuity when a) there was no evidence given that the same is ONLY directed towards women and not men and b) she herself is sexiest because in feeling the need to hide this fact (when clearly this topic was brought up in the past), she herself finds her actions to be shameful. No need to hide or lie about something you truly believe isn't wrong. It why the moment a woman says "it's none of your business" or "body count shouldn't matter" I automatically assume it's 50+ and nope out. To me that's just code for she believes it's a number that she isn't too proud to own up to.
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
I still can’t imagine directly asking that to a woman . It is an important but immensely awkward question that you won’t get an honest answer to anyway. Granted the answer you do get will be indicative - especially if it is the one you mention
Rocko2552 3y ago
It's definitely not a question you ask on the first few dates. I've asked the question a number of times but have never been the first person to ask. The way it always goes is I get asked, I answer the question and then return the question to them. Maybe this factors in as to why I personally don't think it's an awkward question to ask, as I've never felt awkward answering it nor has the women that have asked me this brought it up in any awkward way.
HephaestusRuin 3y ago
This story hits close to home. My wife and I have been married 20 years and she's everything I could want in the bedroom. She's loyal and faithful and does what I want. But every so often I think back to a conversation we had when we were dating, where she hinted at how many guys she'd slept with, and how blue-pill me just blew past it, because I didn't want to be the guy who broke up over something so shallow at that. I'm pretty sure it was only 1 or 2, but I'll never know, will I?
I am tempted to ask her now, but I realize no good can come of it. Best I can do is teach my son to find out before he gets in too deep with a bird.
AllUpInTheCut 3y ago
Dude....
Yeah, you better let that sleeping dog lie.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
20 randos in two years? For free?
StupidSlut
At least get paid, moron!
captainspacetraveler 3y ago
For real, I’d rather be a rich whore than a broke slut any day of the week
cautionTomorrow555 3y ago
Notice that instead of being willing to accept fault for lying she just insults other people and blames them.
Land_of_the_Losers the-niceguy.com 3y ago
"Calm down! No, look you don't understand... You're all sexist. That's the problem, not because of any lies that I told. Got it now?"
LVL50JustThisGuy 3y ago
Upvoting you for no other reason than your tag-line.
Brilliant!
zansiball 3y ago
The death of a beta
CreepyAssPenis 3y ago
They were very secure in a lie, until that was revealed. What ever will she do? Oh no! Anyway...
Land_of_the_Losers the-niceguy.com 3y ago
She's very sad that she got caught. She didn't suspect that some people would be so evil as to notice, truth be told.
dzikun 3y ago
Her sister told her she should lie because guys don't like these things... No... You shouldn't lie. If the guys don't like it don't be a garden tool so you don't t have to lie about it later.
20 she says... Rrright... She is trying to calm the family down by calling them sexist? Great thinking there.
Also guys ... Don't cry in front of women... Ever.
upsidedownbackwards 3y ago
EVER. It's just ammo they'll use later.
If you need to cry there's a bro-shoulder somewhere that will give actual compassion. It was hard to cry in front of my best friend but it brought us so much closer. Now we can talk about ANYTHING.
God damnit why are women so hellbent on making me gay?
3-10 3y ago
Yup, last time I cried in front of a woman, it was my grandmother’s funeral. That’s like the only exception, except maybe if your daughter dies before you.
polishknightusa 3y ago
I thought about this as well. Now he's not only cuckolded, in front of his religious family, but he also looks like a pussy. He also made the mistake of asking her if she was a virgin encouraging her to lie. "Have these shoes ever been worn? They're worth more if they weren't tried on." "Answer: Yes!" He should have said "Yeah, I have friends who've slept around but come to the lord. It's no big deal. What do you think?"
The challenge is this: If the guy divorces her then he's back out on the dating market, 27 years old, and nearly every woman he's going to meet whose not still in college is going to have at least some sausage inside of her. I'd recommend he get a post nuptial agreement and move on.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 3y ago
I disagree. Yes, he is about to go on a life altering journey, but that does not mean that he should avoid it by sticking with this lying whore.
polishknightusa 3y ago
Technically, she's a lying slut. There's a key difference in that lying whores are out to take a man's money.
Certainly that's an option for him, but he better be prepared for it. The singles market is full of mostly lying whores, sluts, and single mothers after age 25. To deal with them, he'll need stone balls and that will take time, hard work, and pain and from what the story sounds like, he's starting from rock bottom.
We talk here how the supply of chads dries up for women when they hit the wall, but for men, the supply of vestigial virgins dries up at 22 or so. There may be some available as what I call "corporate nuns" who are selfish, anti-social career women but they present their own problems. Basically, the supply of decent women is low in our culture overall.
For women, their "wall" is basically when their dating market just BEGINS to suck as much as ours does.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 3y ago
Have you heard of the joke that a prostitute is the cheapest woman you can afford?
She did not lie out of desire. She lied and prostituted herself to get herself a better deal. I bet she didn't fuck him like there was no tomorrow like she would have with some other guys.
polishknightusa 3y ago
I think this is how their minds work: They think that if they quickly sleep with a guy, including one she really likes, then he won't respect her. He'll label her a slut, even if he otherwise likes her, (similar to) but not exactly how women friendzone "nice guys". She might even want to sleep with him but she's worried she'll lose him. Her logic is that she sleeps with hot guys that she doesn't have emotional attachment to because she doesn't mind them not calling her in the morning.
What irks me about her diatribe isn't her sexual experience but rather her use of the term "sexist". I betcha he probably paid for dates and lived up to the provider role as she demanded.
And that's why I don't want to shame him, but rather point out that his own expectations sets him up for failure: Men can't (today) be unilateral providers and protectors hoping to land a submissive virgin because not only are such women rare, there's a lot of fakes like this woman out there. Just as women get banged and "lied to" by Chad and Tyrone, guys like this are going to get lied to since that's what they want to hear.
So the "journey" you refer to is probably going to work out for him like this: he'll dump her, hit the gym, learn game, hit on at least a hundred women, and perhaps by the time he's 30, if he puts in the work, he'll land a 23 year old woman with a low body count. If he's lucky.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 3y ago
He'll dump her, he might have to get his heart broken a couple more times, he becomes hardcore, he hits the gym with purpose, he hits on several women, sleeps with a few and settles for a good enough girl.
I once heard something that has stuck with me since then: no one is born a gangster. Sometimes you have to take a beating to become cold blooded. When it comes to the redpill journey, that is certainly true. His success will depend on how cold blooded and masterful he becomes. As long as he has some blue left in him, he will get fucked over.
polishknightusa 3y ago
Perhaps it will happen the way you say, but it's just as likely that since he cried for 3 days he'll wind up reconciling with her which isn't much worse than what you propose which is getting his heart broken a few more times and then getting a woman with perhaps a body count only half of hers.
I'm married. I've fought with my wife and... worked it out. We share a daughter. I'd rather find a way to work it out with her and I don't regret the decision. The fact my wife worked things out with me is a point in her favor.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 3y ago
You even mentioning this woman in the same passage as your wife is a disservice to your wife.
Remember that this woman's first instinct was to blame an entire family than to admit fault. There is no good reason to reconcile with her. He will get hurt even more if he stays with her. I would guess that he would probably need to have his heart broken one more time to become disillusioned. I would personally recommend suffering earlier so that one does not have to suffer at the end. With this woman, he will suffer throughout.
Fairwareprovidence 3y ago
"I tried to get them to calm down by calling them sexist"
Pppppppppffffffttttttt
Made everyone in the break room think I had choked on an entire rotisserie chicken thanks a lot.
Anyways ever notice how the one thing women in this situation have in common is they always gave the guy they "love the best" the blandest most boring sex possible?
Here's a bit of free advice. Maybe they will believe you are attracted to them if you screw their brains out and suck them dry before they find out you did that to 10 other guys last year.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3y ago
Since she cannot change her past and don't want to be limited by it, why not create a new past? Sure, some may find it dishonest, but they are all mysoginistic - at least, according to our main heroine. Who would imagine that lying to your husband and his family about something they care about would create such an ado?
aerovirus22 3y ago
Everybody is the hero in their story.
Wide-Illustrator2906 3y ago
This should be a crime.
NutsLikeMelons 3y ago
Never seen a more on the nose example of fucked around, found out.
Joaquino7997 3y ago
He's pissed off because she lied. His parents are pissed off because their son is upset.
To quote Shawshank Redemption, "How can she be so obtuse?!"
CartAgain 3y ago
> explaining that they are all sexist.
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hahaha.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
It’s bad enough to lie. It’d be even worse if she made her husband wait for months before he got a taste of that action.
If you know men don’t like it when women get passed around like a J at a party, and really don’t like it when they have to commit to a woman to get a lesser version of what other men got for free, then how about…not being a 304-bag?
CommunicationSmall17 3y ago
Of course it isn't her fault. It's everyone else who is in the wrong here. Definitely not because she lied to him knowing how religious his family was and his values. B
LVL50JustThisGuy 3y ago
"I'm Right! It's everyone else that's wrong!"
If you play the "bad-girl", it's not an act.
pyr0phelia 3y ago
Needs improvement but A for effort.