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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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pasenast 4y ago
She needs to define herself as ratchet. Cause she loves troubled men.
something_about_ 4y ago
Women are just broken
DJDublin 4y ago
Sounds like a girl I once went on a date with. On paper, we were both perfect matches for one another and I feel both of us generally wanted it to work out. She didn't feel "the spark" after the first date and that was that. WTF?!
ElSatoGrande777 4y ago
And another one.
ComfortableBattle804 4y ago
Omg! This butterflies in the stomach or that "spark" is the biggest scam on the earth lol.
I have encountered this so many times. When you have 3 dates almost 3-4 hours long. You have all your goals, Interests and all the personality matches exactly what you are looking for, it should be a game, set and match in terms of compatibility right ? But nahh you get thrown this everything is perfect but can't feel the butterflies things .... That's checkmate and keep wondering what hit you.
I do feel butterflies when someone is totally crazy and exciting but then I can see how this can go pretty wrong long term.
You gotta know that sparks fucking start crazy in real but also die down that quickly as well. So let's just embrace and move on hahaha.
reignoferror00 4y ago
He checks all her boxes except her box. Her box needs another hit of excitement and danger; time for it to hit the local biker clubhouse and have a train run on her.
Here's the problem he has his shit together and you sure the hell don't; you're an attention whore and excitement junkie looking for your next hit.
ThrowAway_Dantes 4y ago
This literally feels like the story of my dating life.
When I was in college I was an alcoholic coked out drug dealer who used to steal shit. Women were lining up out the door for me.
Now, after having spent time in jail for a DUI and drug charges (I got off easy and only charged for the dui), I cleaned up and got my shit together. I have a good job, a degree in stem, quit all the drugs. Now it’s like Women want nothing to do with me cause I’m “too safe”.
Women are seriously stupid bro. But I’d rather be single than back in jail.
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Why not the best of both worlds? Single and in jail...
thotts_n_prayers 4y ago
Everybody wins!
Devilsgun 4y ago
He's Everything You Want
He's Everything You Need
He's Everything Inside of You That You Wish You Could Be
He Says All The Right Things
At Exactly The Right Time
But He Means Nothing To You
And You Don't Know Why
Hmmm, sounds awfully familiar to us Gen Xers
NakedlyStripped 4y ago
The best era for tunes!
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Girls just wanna have fu-unnn.
NakedlyStripped 4y ago
No no... too far back! I'm trying to stay in the 90s - early 2000's alt rock. Lol
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
OK Barbie Girl
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ChadTheImpailer 4y ago
Lucky for her Chad has a side caterpillar farming hobby. He even carries cocoons lathered onto his coat for spontaneous butterflies on the go!
saberwarthog 4y ago
Too bad she never saw that those are death head moths, and that now her ability to have a relationship is in Buffalo Bill basement & hasn't put on the lotion & got the hose...
SwiftStrik3 4y ago
Relationships based on excitement and tingles never lasts.
bottleblondetexan 4y ago
I actually looked at an article written by a dating/ relationship counselor that said tingles or butterflies are mostly from the anxiety of the chase or instability in the relationship. A nice decent man is not as thrilling as somebody who is more elusive so no tingles!
vtec__ 4y ago
i was talking to this chick who is about 33 i think and she told me she went on multiple dates with successful guys in our age group (im in my early 30s) and she said they were all boring. she has a kid with a 6 ft tall abusive chad who she ran away from.
Throwaway_acctz 4y ago
Those successful guys probably didn't beat her up enough during their date.
upsidedownbackwards 4y ago
I was FWB with someone who wanted to get beaten up during sex. That was a hell-no from me. Mostly because that's just now who I am and I'd feel guilty as heck and turned off. Partly because I was worried that's how they'd be able to get legal revenge on me if they wanted to.
Of course they didn't want to date me, just sleep with me occasionally. Eventually cut them out of my life.
michael1962-01 4y ago
Why do you date same age? Stupid a.f. They are not more grown up than the young ones but less fun.
u4534969346 4y ago
yes. I'm still in contact with some of my exes from my early 20s. same mature only older looks and higher body count.
vtec__ 4y ago
im not dating her.
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vtec__ 4y ago
this one dude she mentioned was a pretty high level manager at a big publicly traded company too. he was boring!!
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inkbro 4y ago
No drugs or tattoos either. NEXT.
u4534969346 4y ago
mixed consumption and facial tattoos are a sign of uniqueness. /s
Dunkman83 4y ago
these chicks think they are gonna feel the way they felt when they was 16.
Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago
Mentally they are still 16. Makes sense.
jagmania85 4y ago
‘Butterflies’ in your stomach is part of the fight or flight response when the amygdala in your brain gets stimulated. This is when you feel fright, fear or detect some sort of threat. So this women wants a man who makes her fear for her safety.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
Welcome to the Black Pill.
RatingsOutOfTen 4y ago
she must be over the age of about 25. The truth is, that once they have had so much sex, they have had this butterflies feeling, so it's rarer and rarer that they ever have it.
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That's what hookups do.
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Women say that the number of partners she has had "doesn't matter".
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Just think logically. If someone has spent the last 10 years hooking up and going from bad boyfriend to bad boyfriend and she lands on you at age 30-40, its unrealistic to expect her to magically just decide to stay committed "through tick and thin". Even if she wants to, she probably can't, but she will tell you that she will be good. She will even want to not be a whore, or keep smoking weed and drinking excess wine and eating fast food and hot chips... but she will be addicted to her risky and dangerous and unhealthy lifestyle. Why would she still be fit, not too stressed, insecure or narcissistic about her looks, willing to be submissive, honest, willing to work in a relationship, faithful, loyal... etc. why would she be any of those things? She likely isn't.
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She had the choice between a family and self-respect and building a future and going, childishly to the carosel time and time again because feminism and society told her to. Guess what she chose?
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She can buy her own McMansion and put up her own picket fence.
road_laya 4y ago
If the first 100 dudes didn't matter, why would the next one do?
Having relations with another person is no big deal to her at all. She's been pumped by a new person more times than I have pumped air into my bike tires. It's a chore to her, like getting a haircut.
iostream64 4y ago
"used goods" is 100% a thing. It doesn't make "pussy looser" or cause "roast beef pussy", but it's all in the head. It's been pretty well documented that people who have a lot of casual sex cannot commit.
upsidedownbackwards 4y ago
A lot of truth there. Men as well. I had too much casual sex in my early 20s. My count was up in the 60s. Now my ability to pair pond is trashed and I'm not even interested in sex without alcohol involved.
Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
Who cares? You are success of the sexual revolution, aren´t you?
upsidedownbackwards 4y ago
I guess so. It forced my hand on MGTOW which is probably a good thing, but I'll never be able to stop those stupid daydreams about the house, white picket fence, wife, dog, 2.5 kids. I know that american dream is pretty well dead but there will always be the "What if?"s
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Shit... I have a wife and 2 kids. Married an Indonesian Muslim from a poor nuclear family. When you switch from "dating" to courting for marriage, you get different outcomes. Try this pickup line: "Hey, you wanna run away together, get married, and have a bunch of kids?". The trash takes itself out after that.
b_a_d_r0b0t 4y ago
Chad literally fucked the butterflies out of her.
[deleted] 4y ago
Her brain was retarded malware from the get go...
But yeah, sounds like she's ridden the cock carousel for her entire life.
Women like this are the antithesis of wife material.
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[deleted] 4y ago
I always wondered what that meant, thank you!
Coluphid 4y ago
Burned out her oxytocin receptors and her ability to pair bond. Just wait until she has a kid and feels nothing for them too. Now imagine the kind of upbringing that kid will get. What kind of person it will become and go out into society as.
These women are a plague upon our society and those that indoctrinated them to a hypergamous existence are the ultimate enemies of humanity.
urbana1 4y ago
She will virtue signal about her kid being her world but will scream neurotically at it whilst it breathes in her secondary smoke every day.
ronoda12 4y ago
Statistics already show single mother children are far more likely to become criminals. Nothing new here.
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ok, but does this really happen?
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
100% absolutely yes it does. Women's ability to pair bond is directly related to the number of partners she has. Virgins can pair bond the easiest and most completely and this is why they are desired. Those with fewer than 5 partners are the next best bet. Once they have 1 dick the chance of divorce doubles or triples. Once they have more than 5 dicks it doubles and triples again. Mattress girls are unable to pair bond with any man. Yes, they can fake it, usually only for a while but as this girl describes....the tingles completely disappear for any kind, or nice behaviors. She may appreciate a kind gesture but once their pair bonding ability is gone nice gestures no longer tingle them.
chuck-u_farley 4y ago
I look at this as "do you need a study to prove that water is wet?"
Our bodies are wired to release certain chemicals during sexual intercourse that encourage pair bonding/mating. That process is inhibited by having tons of sex with randos. Like anything else, the more you have of it, the less intense the body's response is. Look at it like any other addiction. Once she has the "hit" of Chad Thundercock and gets her first tingles (mating response), she is constantly chasing that and needs more and more sex to get the same chemical reaction. Its no wonder then that when she decides to "settle down," her poor sap of a husband has zero chance of inducing the same type of chemical reaction in her brain.
Saianna 4y ago
Hmmm..
Coluphid 4y ago
Signs point to Yes.
Please forgive the bible verse. I’m not trying to proselytize. The rest of the stats are from the CDC.
But good luck getting any research funding to prove it.
billmcneal 4y ago
Do you have an original source for this screen grab? Can't read that the charts on the left say.
benethorpl 4y ago
here's the bigger version: https://i.imgur.com/7LDAf1h.jpg
ping: /u/snitcnupfnick
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Tanks man
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Same here, most of the charts are readable, but by the power of zoom in, I understand the gist, which is that marital stability is collapsing as promiscuity is rising. The more new wave feminists have women screw around, the less love they'll feel for that HVM that they are searching for, and by extension, I would think the less they'd be able to identify thunder Chad and his thunder cock
TheRiseAndFall 4y ago
It does have some upsides. At least by being proud of being slags they advertise these red flags readily to let us know to stay away.
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Ye
GreyJedi56 4y ago
Had an ex leave me after 1.5 years because she never felt butterflies... well sorry I did not stress you out and make you feel anxious. Women are def odd.
AncientMGTOWWISDOM 4y ago
your program has to include degeneracy and drama for them to be happy, if your pursuing peace and honor, she will literally be repulsed by you.
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
I regularly pull my wife's hair and blow her back out like she's a $2 whore. She loves it and cums so hard. When I'm gentle and kind it's like fucking a dead fish and no orgasm after hours of it. Hey, whatever works. It keeps my balls drained.
Aaod 4y ago
I had some repeatedly tell me they loved how nice I treated them and then broke up with me to go back to dating abusive assholes.
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RP truths pictured here:
Hypergamy
Unrealistic expectations
I hope she breaks up with him so that he can go and find a better woman.
Tweapodok33 4y ago
The “tingles” are thrills, and they only get those by doing something they know they shouldn’t, like fucking the roided up drug dealer at the local gym while her husband and kids wait at home. She’s in for a life of misery, for herself and for those unfortunate enough to be attached to her in some way.
Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
This level of the red pill leads to the black pill.
mgtowyear4 4y ago
The best tingles in her is with dark triad or when she's cheating (thrill seeking behavior).
This is like a landwhale and her addiction to sugar. She knows what is ruining her, yet she can't stop herself.
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Sadly I don't think she knows why she doesn't feel anything. That's why she's asking for advice
Robotemist 4y ago
Butterflies is nothing more than the anxiety that comes from having something you're not entitled to in your reach and the feeling that it may blow away any moment. Think of the feeling you get when you find a 100 bill laying on the ground and wanting to grab it but you have anxiety from being watched or someone coming back as soon as you grasp it.
I'm willing to bet if you did a study the same brain function you get from gambling and women get from dating Chads and high value men will be exactly the same.
sevencarrots77 4y ago
She answered her own question and doesn't even realize it. We all know his behavior isn't the kind that generates tingles but she is completely oblivious to it. Sad.
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My favorite line and biggest TRP truth:
"It's even worse than someone annoying you"
mustangfrank 4y ago
She: I wish those annoying good men would go away. They are blocking the view of the criminals, Drug Dealers, Ex-Cons, Drug Addicts, gangbangers, etc. Those are real men.
10 years later. Boo Hoo WAATGM. I have found myself after years on the CC. Why will not anyone wife me up? It is all men's fault. Everything is men's fault. They run the Patriarchy.
Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
Both good men and the exciting bad boys run the patriarchy...
And porn and videogames are also tools of the patriarchy.
mustangfrank 4y ago
If porn is part of the patriarchy, I'm all in.
phishyfingers 4y ago
Her brain is busy trying to talk sense into her pussy but it's a losing battle.
Just like some mens brains can't talk their penises out of dating girls like this, so too some females brains can't talk their pussy's into dating a guy like this.
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thotts_n_prayers 4y ago
Neither can most women stand most women.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
Never try to understand women.
Women understand women and they hate each other.
Al Bundy
RedBlow22 4y ago
Al is the Prophet we need!
T0m0king 4y ago
Nah I've had that You can't fake the feeling People can seem great on paper and then you just have no chemistry.
It's not about people being good enough it's about how well you click and actually feel about someone.
necrosnomicon 4y ago
well if she feels nothing then she better gets someone who does and leave the poor lad alone.
after all it will fail anyways by her cheating or some shit so toodles.
chuck-u_farley 4y ago
Her girlfriends will convince her to marry him especially if he is a high earner. 2 years later they will convince her to cheat because he is "boring" and only cares about work.
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Lord_Kano 4y ago
They don't want Urkel. They want Tyrone but they want Tyrone to treat them like Urkel would but since he's Tyrone, that's not going to happen.
mustangfrank 4y ago
This would be a disaster for the man. She is a POS.
Zeuszoos 4y ago
They all are. The feminist mission was to destroy the nuclear family and marriage altogether. Feminism has them conditioned to think marriage is about "feels and tingles", knowing that won't last, which is why they pushed for and got no fault divorce.
wathon2 4y ago
she still needs his money though. So maybe will marry him for a few years, give star fish sex once a year, and divorce to guarantee her retirement. And then it's back on the CC chasing the tingle.
This is why marriage is such a raw deal for men. The wife does not have to sleep with her husband even once, but the husband still have to provide for the wife even after divorce and she is fucking another guy.
42252252 4y ago
Worse, she'll couch all of it in terms like "I tried sooooo hard to love him and be a good wife, but....." and pretend she really gave it her absolute best, so her failure becomes unimpeachable.
MGTOW_and_Bitcoin 4y ago
Not giving her money asking for sex or not wanting sex are all forms of abuse under British law.... just take a look at the new bill that was being passed around.... of course none of this will apply to the wife.
http://www.familylawexpress.com.au/family-law-news/familyviolence/staring-withdrawing-affection-is-domestic-violence-according-to-new-guidelines/3111/
bryonwart 4y ago
For once...I'm actually proud to be American knowing how fucked-up the UK has become.
MGTOW_and_Bitcoin 4y ago
Well quite honestly Canada and Australia are insanely ahead of us when it comes to destroying men's basic rights
chuck-u_farley 4y ago
What?? ASKING is now "abuse"?
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
We do not shame men.
[deleted] 4y ago
Due to womens dual mating strategy you can never trust them, and the more "freedom" they get the more the will devolve into their primal natural state. Now that the pillars of society men build are eroding, we are seeing what women are really like on a base level.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
To be fair, men at the base level are even worse.
Society must restrain our base instincts or bad shit happens.
Society is letting women do whatever they want so bad shit is happening.
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Society, aka men, aka the higher functioning human beings. Who made the government? The laws? Ethics? Religion?
Face it, men have more motivation and capability to not be base humans at any point in human history. It was men who domesticated women, not the other way around.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
This is all true but men also have the ability to commit more violence and mayhem than women can even imagine. Both need to be restrained and we have done a very good job of restraining men. Women, not so much.
abrjx 4y ago
Sometimes the spark and connection just isn’t there. Nobody’s fault. Just move on and try again
ess2019 4y ago
somebody call chad and tell him his cum dumpsters out here acting up
TheBomb999 4y ago
Anyone above 12 who uses that many emojis is a red flag.
waveformcollapse 4y ago
I'd love to fast forward five years to listen to her regret.
SCCock 4y ago
Regret
That she settled and there is a new Chad at work
Or
She leaves him for Chad who impregnates her and immediately ditches her. Meanwhile "he" has a hot wife with kids. Thanks to his hard work he takes the fam to Europe every year.
[deleted] 4y ago
She belongs to the skreets.
Zeuszoos 4y ago
Doesn't that tell it all!
That's why when women get married, it's not for life. They're lying. Their #1 reason for divorce (I mean in private conversation, not the lies they put on their divorce filings), is that they're /not feelin' it anymore".
And so guys need to know that it doesn't matter how much they make (since she gets paid to divorce you, so it'll be hers anyway), nor how well you treat her, after she gets bored and starts thinking about her party days riding the c*ck carouseland some guy she meets gives her the vaginal tingles, she's gone! And so's your stuff!
Of course, this is where most guys go full-on mangina.
HungryBrain1 4y ago
Bang enough guys and you kill the butterflies. Simple as that.
ThisIsUrIAmUr 4y ago
Great rhyme!
BargainBard 4y ago
This classy lady will come to regret her decision in a year or two.
Not only guy has to have all these amazing qualities... but he has to be "exciting" on top of that!?
The 30's are gonna be really interesting when all this attitude comes crashing down and marriage rates plummet.
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Bro, I was dealing with these types 17 years ago and they were the same back then. This is the crash happening right now. Marriage rates already plummeted. Hook up culture is the result. Forever single mothers is the result. Record male suicide is the result. School shootings and high crime are the result.
AntiSocialPartygoer 4y ago
women in the dating pool: "MeN aRe TrAsh"
also women in the dating pool:
Joaquino7997 4y ago
She needs to do him a huge favor and leave him be. Nothing will bring back the tingles for her. She belongs to the "Game of Tyrones" now.
sony_anumo 4y ago
When will women learn that they are only happy when they are unhappy.
The number one thing that gives tingles is drama and a feeling of risk.
If those elements are not there, she will get these feelings of boredom.
It works like drugs, in the same sense that you build up resistance to it.
The more you expose yourself to it, the more resistance you build up.
There is a reason you start off getting the tingles from your crush looking at you, and ends with having to run around with gang bangers.
Women tend to lack the understanding that you cannot always be happy and excited.
If there is no down, you no longer have any up.
[deleted] 4y ago
Tats and a criminal record get the jezebels
Five_Decades 4y ago
I hope that guy gets the hell away from her and finds someone who doesn't have the baggage she does. He probably wants a wife, this woman is busy working through her childhood traumas.
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Can't make a hoe into a housewife, gents.
Obnoxiousjimmyjames 4y ago
Sounds like a “catch” dodged a bullet without knowing it.
JackDilligaff 4y ago
just because you have your shit together and are cordial doesnt mean you know how to illicit sexual tension. nice guys finish last because they dont know how to exude "fuckable" just "dependable"
[deleted] 4y ago
If I ever go to the bars again I should go with lifts in my boots and wear a suit. If I start getting approached because I appear 6' I'll just leave.
#fuckheightsupremacistsmaytheydiealone
NoLightsInLondo 4y ago
Deliciously irrational and short sighted. Instant gratification at the top of the agenda shows just how poorly this person plans for anything. Not that I'm saying she or anybody else should stick it out and drain the poor guy emotionally and financially.
I wonder how she reacts to potential new friends... "No we can't be friends, since we didn't instantly and immediately become bestest frends!!!!" Surely nothing substantial can grow over time?! Surely no individual could ever find affection [or friendship, or interests, or anything else] they didn't immediately see?!
It's simply unfathomable for me to base potentially life changing decisions on "tingles." Sheer fucking lunacy.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
We found another guy who identifies as male!
prats0027 4y ago
Very well said. I think one big worrying trend(in last 5-6 years) is that lots and lots of women are basing their future on this 'tingles' thing. To hear from one women is idiotic and laughable but to hear it constantly from various groups of women is fucking lunatic. When will these deranged women learn?
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
They won't. They'll die alone consuming products that make me money.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
They never needed to learn before.
ScalpelLifter 4y ago
Wish we could see the profile to followup their life
FitnessEnthusiast98 4y ago
She is too stupid to handle this qualified guy. I hope that the guy will leave this stupid girl ASAP.
[deleted] 4y ago
When only the top 5% will do, suddenly being in the top 10 just ain't gonna cut it.
mustangfrank 4y ago
If you have to have tingles, buy a vibrator.
gunrunner1926 4y ago
Gets everything on her list. Still bitches about it.
NickTesla2018 4y ago
Next time, he should push for hot anal on the first date. Crazy broads.
saberwarthog 4y ago
I'm not quite sure using tabasco as lube is a good idea...
Or maybe I'm mistaken here.
TheSigilStone 4y ago
I just hope this man realizes her insanity and leaves.
Vikingbeard1 4y ago
Hmm...just throwing it out there, but I wonder if she's talking about lacking arousal, or lacking any kind of connection. And if he shares her interests, is smart and funny and kind, and she still doesn't click with him at all despite actively wanting to, she might also just be a boring-ass basic bitch with the personality of toothpaste who can only connect with people when drunk or high. I think that happens alot too; it's not always the CC that does it--sometimes being told they are a special princess just for having a vagina means they never develop character, even if they manage to avoid being a slut. "I like stuff, and, like, makeup, and OMG, did you see that thing celebrity thot said to man-bitch feminist actor?!" This is bad at 16 but practically ear-stabbing pain when she's 30. I've met women like that, and I'm not entirely sure they even know what to do with a penis, and they don't want to find out because that might ruin the $12 of face-paint they put on before going to get their asshole bleached.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
Tingles= arousal.
She is not talking about not having a "connection" because she doesn't even know what that is.
icedhumblepie 4y ago
She's talking about the 'butterflies in her stomach'. That's not the sexual arousal feeling, that's the physiological state of anxiety that bad boy types and narcissists induce behave by being unpredictable and being 'dangerous'.
People in this sub often fail to realise that 'being dangerous' doesn't need to be about risk of physical harm (hence all the mindless yammering about criminals), the risk of emotional harm can just as easily provoke the anxiety state that causes the 'butterflies' sensation. In fact, this emotional harm risk is far more common amongst non-trainwreck women who still display classic RP behaviour than physical harm risk.
This is part of the effect that dark triad traits produce - people who subconsciously recognise there is potential threat get a physiological response which they mistakenly interpret as attraction.
Vikingbeard1 4y ago
I remember getting butterflies in my stomach with my first girlfriend, and she was sweet and great. I think that's pretty much universal.
SpacemanLost 4y ago
A valid line of thought.
So many women say they want men who are educated, top of their class, worldly, caught up on all the latest important issues, have unique and creative interests, etc... while they themselves are as bland as a slice of Wonder Bread and were nothing better than solid "C" students... and don't see any sort of disconnect or imbalance in that.
As a man who somewhat fits that description of exceptional accomplishments (can name drop quite a few things of interest when describing my life), I've met my share of women who were just plain 'meh' in intelligence and interests, with nothing much else noteworthy to their name.
Vikingbeard1 4y ago
I assume, with those women, it's a status thing. Sure, they still want you to be handsome and tall and strong, but you're also smart and stuff, so that makes me a better woman for getting you! It's Poke-cock and I got lucky! I guess that makes sense if the woman is, perhaps, not actually that sexual, even just alone, and looks at relationships like a Baron trying to figure out who to marry his daughter off to for the most geopolitical advantage.
But some women are just borderline retarded but we're not supposed to call them out for it--a mentally handicapped girl is still "sweet" and "loveable" while a mentally handicapped man is a "stupid pain in the ass" and "creep".
SpacemanLost 4y ago
Wasn't it Leykis who said "Money, Status and Power" were the three aphrodisiacs?
Basically is having 'social proof' that you have risen above the pack of other males in some fashion.
I'm probably a 7 on the 1-10 scale. Decent looking and sized, even 'cute', nothing physically wrong, but I don't have the extra oomph of being over 6' or clearly genetically gifted to put me in the top 10-15% where the panties get wet after first glance, but enough to get me some occasional success over the years when I was working at it.
However, when things were calmer and we're in a 'get to know you better' mode - i.e. a woman was asking questions to figure out my status, wealth, etc. I would start dropping the little status tidbits and play the game - 'sorry I couldn't call right back - the New York Times called me for an interview about my most recent published work', casually relating the story about that that band she had heard of inviting me backstage after the last show when during the meet-n-greet I mentioned what I did and the bass player went all fanboy on me, etc. (because I've been working in the entertainment sector for the past 30 years and been involved in a few things a lot of people have heard of), etc. etc. Or the fact that when I said on the phone "I'll be the guy in the old black station wagon" and when I showed up, it was the 2-year old Mercedes AMG wagon.
All that stuff that triggered their 'social proof' receptors helped out a lot back in my post-divorce days. But to be honest, the majority of my dates only had their looks going for them in comparison (and often those were nothing special). It's not just that they had 'average' jobs that didn't stand out (like admin assistant at the school district), but that when I try to learn their interests, quirks, etc... most were not interested in developing much beyond working, spending, maybe their kids, and watching TV in the evening. Not a good match for the pace of my life at the time.
CappuccinoPapi 4y ago
Women want but they don’t know what they want
pavlovslog 4y ago
If someone isn’t feeling it then they aren’t feeling it. I can’t fault her or anyone for that, sometime it just happens. I will fault her for complaining about it later and for thinking lasting relationships and real, solid love is the product of magic like some Hollywood movie or fairytale that just hits you like a bolt of lightning instead of something you work on and grow all the time. I hate when people have these insane checklists and then ditch out after one time because they had 10/10 … but still think they should have something extra. I had a guy roommate like this not too long ago and it drove me nuts. People like that think that they need to give 0% to get 110%, that the universe owes them and one day the bill will be paid in full not even considering they haven’t given anything to get anything back. A bunch of it is insecurity / not wanting to try and fail, but I still don’t have any sympathy for those people.
chalulin 4y ago
I'm sure she's looking for the thrill that only a thug can give her. That sense of excitement that comes from knowing you might wind up in jail or shot dead from who you're dating.
mustangfrank 4y ago
upsidedownbackwards 4y ago
I'm glad you included this. People here usually forget this one because it's the most "innocent" of the type of men women go for. They want to MAKE the guy who kicks them out every night at 2am love them and let them stay overnight. They can change him! But he's never been the relationship type, or has been burned in the past and is only in for the pump and dump. But SOMEDAY he'll love her because she's different and special!
A lot of good guys turn into players because of getting burned in the past. The disinterest in her is a turn on because it's a challenge, something she can fix. But you can't un-burn a good meal.
mustangfrank 4y ago
I knew a Chad/player. This is a partial post of mine.
Chad would go to singles events, not to find a GF, LTR or a possible wife, but to restock his harem. Women who go to singles everts, may be a bit older and are actively looking for a man in their life. These women are easy prey for a Chad. The best these women will be is an 8. Chad is a USDA Grade A 100% certified solid 10. These women think they hit the jack pot, when all he is interested in is a quick and easy lay. He would date them for a few times, but once they stared talking serious long term stuff i.e. marriage, kids, he would block their phone calls and delete their numbers. Women never asked why such a good looking man in his late 30’s or early 40’s was never married or had kids. He was single, for a reason. He didn’t want to get married. Why choose one woman when he can have many? And that is exactly what he did.
Guapscotch 4y ago
He’s a good man. Society’s expectation of what a man should be, what he is told to be growing up from teachers, the media, etc. And for some it is still not enough, hope the guy wises up and figures out she’s a bird.
PopularBug5 4y ago
Who wants to bet that her whole life is a mess? That he has to have his whole shit together so she doesn't have to? That she habitually chases men who are a piece of mess before she met him?
Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
Leave us and never come back!
[deleted] 4y ago
How was your date?
He was nice.
I'm sorry, let me give you a hug.
givemethatrandom 4y ago
That's what happens when you burn through your pair-bonding capability, which is why "alpha widows" are a thing. No matter how great of a catch the man is, he won't create the same spark, especially if such spark is a combination of her previous encounters (e.g., the physique of Jason, the smarts of Luke, the wealth of Ramón, the street-smarts of Jess, the good sex of Ed, the charisma of Fabricio, the emotional availability of Peter, the superpower of Spider-Man, etc.).
And then you've people wondering why men prefer women in their early 20s: It's because at least there's the possibility she hasn't slept with half the town, and thus depleted her pair-bonding capability. In other words, there might still be fertile soil in which to plant seeds for a healthy relationship. But heck, pointing out this out means you hate women and are a sexist pig
NakedlyStripped 4y ago
Not gonna lie, if someone did have the superpowers of Spider Man, I would totally get nobody living up to that expect lol #webslinger
givemethatrandom 4y ago
True true
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
Chad is not superhuman but his amalgam in her memory is.
purplelightofRED 4y ago
Today's idiots are many.
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MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Because she's a whore and knows she'd make a terrible housewife.
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MrNeurotypical 4y ago
We can thank feminism for that. These modern women are so out of touch they don't even know what housewives do or what men want. They live in the most prosperous country on Earth, have full equality, safer than ever, yet they're miserable. I'm so glad I'm out of here in Sept. and going to Asia where women are real women rather than entitled, fat wanna-be-men.
19780521reddit 4y ago
sometimes what we perceive as perfection isn’t attractive... and that’s why trying to be perfect doesn’t mean anything in order to “find” someone
UltimateShame 4y ago
She is searching for MDMA not for a man.
thotts_n_prayers 4y ago
I am also searching for MDMA
UltimateShame 4y ago
Perfectly understandable.
Blogginginvicecity 4y ago
Well if you're looking for a man, not MDMA, u can come to me ;). loljk
corytrevor710 4y ago
Just another alpha widow. Nothing to see here.
Pie_sky 4y ago
So many fucking emoijs.........
randomjam47 4y ago
Maybe it’s just that she’s incapable of feeling happy no matter what she has going for her
Nothing is good enough for women nowadays
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
She can't be happy unless everyone else is unhappy.
AnthonyCarmine 4y ago
This epitomises the ‘men department store’ joke
Griever114 4y ago
So fucking true
l339 4y ago
Dude what’s the problem with this? He’s everything she’s looking for, but she doesn’t feel it? That can happen, why is that a problem?
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The problem is the contradicting wants she has (based on statistical factors, not ones she states)
On mobile so I'm not going to post links but this is something repeated on the subreddit a lot: according to data from OLD women only find the top 10% of men physically attractive. I think it's something like 80% of women on OLD score men's physical attractiveness this way. You can see there are not enough "attractive" men for the number of women seeking them. Add to that the want of a good personality - so we'll call that a 50/50 split so now 80% of women are chasing 5% of men. But to add further, he needs to be financially stable too. Let's call that another 50/50 so 80% of women want 2.5% of men.
As you can see, she's very unlikely to get it all, but that's what she wants. She has to make some sacrifices somewhere. Go with the stable guy but no tingles? Or the tingles and probably wind up alone? (Since men who give "tingles" already have plenty of options in the pool of 80% women who want them)