This is a post in response to a question @First-light posed below. We need to redefine what a “good man” is both for ourselves and others.
@First-light observes this fundamental wisdom: https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/324856/weekend_post_leftover_inspin_envies_her_younger_cousin_s_upc “Its the choices that modern women have that ruin them.”
Ahem, I have ruminated over this observation several times over the years. Here's my middle aged man's (minus the belly) opinion below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzo73jYl3Ew
I posted something from a Cheddit female incel group where a woman who KNEW she was homely (which says a lot in these times) said she refused to 'settle" for someone "who didn't put in effort" and yet she had sexual urges she sought to have released. Repeat: She could still get laid but she wouldn't get a free meal or clown game out of him. (I have searched for this post to no avail. If someone finds it, please pin it in the comments below).
It makes me wonder that there's something larger going on with our civilized society that goes beyond feminism where women are raised to be dominant. I read on X just the other day "women have ALWAYS been choosers". Well, no. For nearly all of conscious human history (since the discovery of fire), it was men, whether a father or invader, who chose his daughter's mate hence "asking the father for her hand in marriage" cheesy custom on The Bachelor. (I think they're REQUIRED to do that as per their contract because it's such a cringe humiliation ritual I can't see why at least one of them didn't opt out.)
“Hey, I’m dating a dozen other girls. Is it ok for your daughter to marry me?” https://youtu.be/MmuzZ9QwB_c?t=207
"On the other hand... No! There is NO other hand!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkiWIpiQjbQ
Our society doesn't even have a "real woman" image of femininity anymore. We don't have a "woman up" shaming ploy but in the past, women were expected to be submissive. Unless she had huge tracts of land as a dowry, she was merely a serving wench and treated as such. Even a peasant man was expected to be in charge of his hut.
At some point in the west, women were told they were all boss babe “ladies” and “princesses” and feminism was merely an escalation of that mindset. This thinking has spread to the far east such as Korea and Japan (due likely to USA military base influence).
In the meantime, men were conditioned to be more feminine and submissive which suited the free market capitalists perfectly because that cheapened the labor similar to that of serfs. I undid this conditioning about 2 decades ago. "Be a good hard worker even if your boss is a jerk". Sheesh! I actually READ someone say that (not exact words but close.)
So no wonder modern women act like type-A alpha male jerks and men find it tough to quit BP.
As I stated last week or so, men do have choices now including RP which is interesting because RP is now pretty easy: It instantly makes your life better although there’s some MINOR social shaming feedback. Stop overtipping at restaurants ($35/hour for all tables for a waitress, not $35/table at 22% regardless) Stop overpaying for dates (CAKE (not "coffee") at a cafe instead of a whole dinner). Stop doing unseen work at a job where they treat you as disposable.
Heck, let’s talk about that last one as an example of how to be successful in relationships in general. If someone else is carefully metering what they do for you while you do hidden work, “for the team”, they’ll simply demand more of you. Here’s this great line from a wonderful movie North Dallas Forty that explores a “workplace” (a fictional NFS sports team) about teamwork:
“We’re not the team!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNiisYtYcRk
So let’s focus back on women: Being a provider/protector as defined by “traditionalism” is being a serf: Either you’re working in the fields and handing over nearly everything to a “lord” or “lady”, or you’re a conscript cannon-fodder to die again, so the lord/lady gets another acre of land and serfs to add to their wealth.
I also blame the superhero movies that set literally (using that word literally correctly!) superhero expectations of men.
https://youtu.be/qJvvCSUsZIw?t=109
So it’s no wonder that women now regard men as pathetic and sub-human. In Superman II, he uses a superpower kiss to erase Lois Lane’s memory so she isn’t stuck being an Alpha Widow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byu1LpPsYvE
I’d end it there, but here’s what I’m doing in my own life: I don’t do unseen work for free and I remind others of my value when needed. When my wife asks me for something and doesn’t say “please”, I pause and stare at her. Then I tell her to say “please” or it doesn’t get done. Then when she says “please”, I pause for effect and and slowly say, “ok”. If she doesn’t say “please”, I wait and announce to her “sex at 2PM”. She gets shocked and I say “Why should I say please? You didn’t do so earlier did you?”
It’s not only US that need to get off the BP but those around us as well. It’s a lifestyle change.
No-Stress-Cat 43m ago
You are THIS > < CLOSE to figuring it out.
Feminism isn't about equality, it's about control.
Abortion isn't about my body, my choice, it's about control.
LGBTQ isn't about trans and gay rights, it's about control.
The MeToo movement isn't about protecting women from harassment, it's about control.
What do all of these have in common? Feminism says to be a boss babe, follow that career, just don't have kids. Abortion says that women can be sluts and get pregnant all they want and get rid of it anytime they want, just don't have kids. LGBTQ says men should be with men and women should be with women and transitioning will make you sterile, just don't have kids. The MeToo movement says men should not touch, talk to, look at, or go near women, just don't have kids.
The question is, why did things change from a traditional society into the clusterfuck we have today? The answer is: resources. There are 8.3 billion people on this planet, all competing for the same resources.
Rich men have all the resources because they own the corporations, have all the assets, and control all the money. Rich women push the narratives to keep other women from competing with them in having children. The less resources the "serfs and peasants" have, the more resources they have for the survival of their own children.
That is why women are shamed for deviating from the narrative. They are called PickMes and femcels and household slaves for wanting to have families and children. That is why men are shamed for deviating from the narrative. They are called predators, dangerous to society, and women should fear them being anywhere near them.
All these social justice movements and anti-men laws are designed to prevent the "have-nots" from producing more children than the "haves", to control the population.
The problem is, they've taken it too far. They've pushed men past the limit. Made the game unplayable because no matter what, the men always lose. So we just walked away.
That is why they say The Red Pill movement is a cult of woman-haters, terrorists, Nazis, and a threat to society that must be eliminated. In reality, the only threat is to the amount of resources the rich can acquire.
They know they can't take control, only fake control. They know that men, as a collective, could easily take physical control and literally crush anyone, including them, that try and get in our way. That's why all these women's movements have sprung up so quickly over the recent years. Women are their last hope of getting men back onto the plantation, because they are so easily manipulated.
But it's not working. The men have woken up. Women are useless weapons against us. Because we are the backbone of society, we are the ones in control of building and maintaining society, and we know it. We build the weapons and make up the armies, and will use them if pushed too far.
Now, the women are waking up as well. They are finding that the narratives are leaving them useless, cold, lonely, and without children. They are realizing that they are worthless pawn in a game that is nothing but a losing situation for them. So they are starting to switch sides.
But don't expect things to get better anytime soon. The rich are getting desperate, so they're going to be pulling out all the stops. Expect things to get worse in coming years.
So keep on your purpose, brothers. Let nothing distract you. We have lost many battles, but we will win the war.