Not really sure how much of an introduction I need here, but I'm Rollo Tomassi author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine.
If you've been at all active on this sub you'll no doubt have seen my name or blog come up in comments. I also have several of my more seminal posts linked on the reading list sidebar here. I'm also considered one of the three 'R's of the manosphere (Roissy, Rollo, Roosh).
I haven't done an AMA in about a year and a half, so fire away with the questions. I will answer pretty much everything, but just know I'm known for having quite an extensive library of previous posts so I may link you to an essay I've written in the past if I think it'll answer your question more adequately.
https://therationalmale.com/the-book/
Twitter: @RationalMale Gab: @Rollo-Tomassi
thurandilneik 8y ago
After reading "the tool of ASD", I was very enlightened by your view on the concept. However, a recent real life situation made me question the idea that ASD is merely a tool used by women to optimize sexual selection. I went out recently with a girl that is in a LTR but an open relationship since she is an exchange student in my city. She expressed her attraction explicitly and everything was going smoothly until I mentioned a past experience with a girl in a LTR who cheated on her bf with me. I believe I said that in a way that could be misinterpreted as judgmental. This immediately led her to keep a distance and act cold for the rest of the date, in return I acted uninterested and didn't make a move. The next time I contacted her she came up with excuses to not see me. This led me to start thinking that every woman needs to protect her self-image as a " good girl " and would go far enough to reject a guy she was obviously interested in sexually just to protect this image. I am not sure if its me who misunderstood your article though.
On a side note, I wanted to tell you that it's because of your blog that I "unplugged" and spread the word ( already unplugged 2 of my friends ).
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[deleted] 8y ago
What would you tell the men who believe it's too late to change? Men who have been stagnated by depression, addiction, hopelessness; and wish to find a reason to wake up in the morning?
Ascended_One 8y ago
Let us have these premises:
My hypothesis is: isn't it possible that by this time, the girl is already hooked/in-love with you and this is the only reason why she agrees to these terms? In order to cling to you and keep you, even though you're not exclusive to her?
She would not have agreed to these terms were they verbalized in the first stages of dating. She only agrees to them later when she's already psychologically hooked.
What I'm asking: is this moral? Doesn't it sound like psychological manipulation?
I know the standard TRP explanation is that I'm brainwashed by feminine blue-pill conditioning, which may be true, but I actually wish for someone to prove me wrong in this case.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2011/11/28/humanism-behaviorism-and-the-amorality-of-game/
https://therationalmale.com/2012/03/23/moral-to-the-manosphere/
[deleted] 8y ago
How tall are you? If you are over 5'10 I'll skip reading your material, because tall man have things so easy cause height...
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Anon241469 8y ago
What is your opinion of nofap?
David_029_Tredecies 8y ago
I really hate my parents for turning me a nice guy, not achieving my goals, and instead of saving my money for my better future and ended up using my money for my parent's favor (bills, electricity, food, debt, etc.) while trying to hide my 10% of salary as I can. I was planning to leave the house from my parents once I become rich and started to become an "alpha male" to improve my wealth, sexual life, and status. I can still appreciate and sense some of my dad's trait since he has good social circle with the friends from Saudi since my dad is an OFW (Overseas Filipino Worker) working as a sales manager for Kanoo Cargo. He even had a background about living as a group against pesky assholes in a non-violent and judging way and sometimes my dad taught me some good valuable skills that is somewhat related to RP (word power and conversational skills redirected as a reference from MACK Tactics by Dean Cortez) but coincidental. I'm proud that my dad has a manly testosterone and lifestyle including some of his friends and his brothers back in his old days from the 80's and they also used to be excellent trainees during military drill exercise during martial law in Philippines, circa 1970's. Even my uncle, living now in USA, was a great military strategist and even aced out the military exams. So good, they even tried to promote him a higher ranking officer (lieutenant and above) for war but he turn them down.
I still believe I have some remaining genes of strong man. But still, my parents doesn't understand my journey on reformatting my lifestyle and the problems such as being a bullied victim and having cluelessness about different people's culture as my parents assumed they're bad guys due to sex, vulgar words, and the way they live in this such social life. Drugs is out the line and won't do good obviously. Even worse, my parents taught me to be a nice guy which is suck. I have to improve myself more on something what's lacking and the struggles in learning PUA-related skills to build my balls and mentality and game. i was a lone wolf, currently struggled for self-help and I'm 25 years old.
Anyways...What's the best way to hate and deal with my beta-related parents for raising me a shitty version of myself instead of understanding the culture, money, and my respect? I hope I didn't over-complicate my introverted thoughts as I tried my best to explain my situation after I took the red pill. I have a lot of question in my mind trying to get the every right question needed to ask.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
The first step is letting go of their complicity in raising you Blue Pill. You can resent them all you want, but it doesn't get you anywhere in the long run. In all likelihood they probably didn't realize what they were doing. They just raised you as their own Blue Pill programming taught them would be best.
There's not a lot of money in revenge, or resentment. Your mental energies would be better applied towards your own betterment in a Red Pill perspective. Then, once you've built something of yourself in that awareness you can serve as an example of your Red Pill success in spite of their failed Blue Pill ideological upbringing of you.
David_029_Tredecies 8y ago
I see. That's all I need to manage my thoughts, necessities, and my goals needed to achieve what I wanna become. Thanks, man.
Anon241469 8y ago
You've expressed that porn is an anesthetic for men, and you've expressed that enjoying the services of escorts can be used as a "buffer" (not sure how that word is appropriate), but my question is, do you think enjoying the company of escorts will improve, or hinder, a man's game? Or perhaps do nothing at all with respect to one's game?
Is seeking the companionship of escorts, in your opinion, a wise decision for a young man (20s) who has already been successful in most of his endeavors (with the exception of becoming a successful player) and has more than enough discretionary income (after saving for house/retirement) to see them 2+ times per month?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I cover that topic here:
https://therationalmale.com/2012/01/09/services-rendered/
Generally I'm of the opinion that if you buy a man a hooker you get him laid for a night, but if teach a man Game you get him laid for a lifetime. If a guy is in such a state that he would benefit from a confidence boost that fucking an escort would give him, then yes, but with the caveat that if he makes a practice of it (or a lifestyle of it) then it will hinder his understanding and internalization of Red Pill awareness and using Game.
Here's a few other links where I analyze this:
https://therationalmale.com/2015/01/02/commodifying-love/
https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/11/sugar-babies/
OneRedYear 8y ago
What the hell happened to Sosuave? That place is a cesspool.
VancouverSucks 8y ago
A new girlfriend said she is totally in to me but wanted to warn me that she has considered swinging with past boyfriends after their sex life went stale. Is this a major red flag or is it just AWALT ?
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PranksterLad 8y ago
When does the Third book come out, what is different about it?
Also, what's the best advice you can give to a 24 year old graduating from College who does not know what to do?
PranksterLad 8y ago
Why do you recommend the book Mastery so much?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Because, next to 48 Laws of Power, I think it is Robert Greene's best book. It really answers a lot of the "what should I do with my life Rollo?" questions very succinctly.
PranksterLad 8y ago
You are a hero Rollo. I don't know what to do with my life to be honest after graduating college.
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billcosbyeatsbabies 8y ago
What should I dress up as for Halloween?
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kanyewost 8y ago
Dropping to in to pay homage to a legend
De-Rezzer 8y ago
Recently bought your audiobook and had a go through multiple times. Enjoyed every bit of it but having trouble really "killing the beta" and recreating those old paradigms that were set. I know you introduced a lot of information about it but what would you recommend to someone who is struggling with this? (Any advice from the trp is appreciated as well!)
Clispy 8y ago
General advice for someone who grew up without a father?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2015/01/30/father-knows-best/
https://therationalmale.com/2012/11/21/promise-keepers/
StoicCrane 8y ago
In one of the chapters you made the claim that "Women's sexuality is schizophrenic" they seek a man that other women want while actively behaving in a manner to reduce that male's sexual options binding him to her but the moment that happens she'll lose all interest. Couldn't the same be said of our sexual strategy?
We want "decent quality women" but our biological inclination is to spread our seed and play the field. By actively practicing the latter not only is the collective pool of women diminished in value through the CC but women who may have otherwise been "decent" in exposure to an AF becomes transformed into a typical CC slut further decreasing the "quality" of the female pool.
Women are 100% accountable for their behavior. In this context though doesn't it seem like we as Men are adding to the issue?
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docbloodmoney 8y ago
Our biological inclination isn't to spread our seed, it's to ensure we have descendants - 40000 years of evolution in harsh climates means that for white men, that's investing lots of resources to ensure your offspring thrive (not dicking anonymous bimbos and leaving them pregnant to raise shitty kids) (not that I believe any of the bogus stories you incel mystery meat manlets post on reddit anyway)
StoicCrane 8y ago
Just as frogs spawn a load of tadpoles to ensure genetic survival man plays the field by inseminating as many women as possible to yield to at least one strong healthy offspring to carry the family torch even if all others are deficient by contrast.
All living sentient beings are instinctively geared towards survival but the best method for ensuring the survival of offspring is to spread as much seed as possible and let natural selection have her way. If it weren't for modern day Beta government men with 7+ children would be far from uncommon.
I'm no white so the Ra! Ra! White men against the world thing does nothing for me. It's just as bad as the BLM bullshit propaganda in my book. Just here to examine intergender dynamics. The race shit is pointless here.
docbloodmoney 8y ago
maybe if you're an r-selected ape, yeah
StoicCrane 8y ago
Think what you will. If you can't understand that male sexual strategy (spreading seed and playing the field) is the precious opposite or rather the complement to female sexual strategy (spawn as few kids to men with crap tons of resources for provisioning) there's nothing I can do to help you. This is elementary TRP 101.
docbloodmoney 8y ago
yeah? how many offspring do you have then?
StoicCrane 8y ago
If Laws didn't try to cuck men and turn us into slaves for women I'd have at least 8. Think of the American babyboomer age when mass fucking was encouraged legally in the US. A 13 kid family was standard back then.
docbloodmoney 8y ago
so 0, thanks for confirming NOWAG
nothing says "alpha" like thousands of reddit posts about yugioh
[deleted] 8y ago
You are completely correct. It is not just about women, it is about men. As a man if you can fuck as many hot women as you like, you get bored and settle down (Brad Pitt, Mike Tyson, Johnny Depp). Then from the confines of an exclusive relationship a man gets bored and dreams of wild, hot, young pussy.
For a woman she wants a strong protector. Someone who will produce healthy offspring. When she finds him and locks him down she diminishes his masculinity and therefore her attraction to him drops (this is why dread game works). Alternately she locks down a beta and dreams of Chad the pirate crawling into her bedroom window at night to fuck her brains out. Human relationships and sexuality is a war. At the end of the day you win some battles, lose some, then win or lose the war, but there is always a cost. There is no such thing as perfection.
tinder43somes 8y ago
Scenario 1) Female interests are directly self-contradictory
Scenario 2) Male interests result in competition which conflicts with male interests
exit_sandman 8y ago
This.
The first is inherently contradictory, the second is more of a Prisoner's Dilemma.
Jani1157 8y ago
Could you break this down more? What's the prisoner's dilemma?
dr_warlock 8y ago
Have some self-reliance and Youtube it.
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If you still don't see the connection, come back.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
This is seriously one of the most thought provoking comments I've read on this sub for the past year. Very keen observation fellow Shitlord, I applaud you.
I think you're right, both men and women are opposite mirrors to each other in this regard. For example women actively promote betaness in men but are repulsed by it equally. Men promote sluttiness in women but would never think of committing to one.
I think this is both sexes attempt of increasing the 'spread coverage' of their sexual strategy.
The same conflict can be found in men and how they want women to be sluts but protect their own daughter from becoming one. Though I'm confused why most modern day women seem hell bent on creating beta slaves out of their sons.
Soarinc 8y ago
This is something I've privately kept to myself because I'd be downvoted to hell for saying it. Luckily this guy said it in a thoughtful, eloquent way so I'm just going to copy/paste it again for reference.
With that said, what happens to a "plate" after you've spun her for 1-2 years? The answer is the following:
Her "n count" will increase by 1, and her oxytocin sensitivity will once again be marginally, permanently desensitized further making it even harder to pair-bond in the future which sadly includes her own kids as you've all seen how wonderful single-moms that sluts turn out to be...
The above link is must-watch for anyone who attributes a modicum of fairness to family law judges and their kangaroo courts of justice...
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
The thing is that this is the male version of the shit test. If they fail our 'slut-test' and prove a gullible slut we've essentially filtered her out for other Alpha's whom in turn will plate her instead of LTR.
TRP likes to believe that women have it all and don't face difficult tests in life. This belief is faulty and is only held because no one over here is interested in approaching the sexual market from a woman's perspective. Other than finding out how to fuck her.
Women face a real challenge in life that's tied up to their own version of SMV and what level of partners they can attract just like men. But it isn't tied to sex, rather it is tied to commitment and continued male attention.
That link was just brutal, fucking brutal. I know exactly what that dude is talking about and I've seen women pull shit like this. I'm a firm believer that most women deserve to be treated badly unless they prove themselves.
This level of audacity is just unforgivable and I fully understand why our ancestors used to beat their women.
alexclarkbarry 8y ago
that is one of the sickest things I have ever listened to... whores feel entitled to get the government to threaten men who they have treated like shit with large jail sentences for not earning enough to satisfy her child support demmands. I am not surprised that when faced with the choice of jail, or slave for someone that is keeping your children from you many opt to kill themselves.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
The funniest thing is that single mothers rarely spend the money on the kids. Remember that they are children. I was raised by a single mother and I vividly remember her always droning to my dad about the alimony. He wanted to stop paying after I had become 18 years old but she demanded it to continue. He agreed but only if the money would be deposited on my bank account, she went nuts. Heckled me for days and weeks to give it on to her.
We never had much money because women suck at keeping their financials in check. So I grew up hearing the same bullshit one liner "there's no money for that". Which meant no clothing, good food or fun shit. I'd get the yearly guilt trip present as a kid so she could call herself a good mom. Usually a game/console so people actually thought I was spoiled. Only when older do I realize how much money she received from my dad. And only then did I realize how she could finance the house we lived in. The fancy clothes she wore, the therapeutic medicine crap she bought or the trips to Spain she went on. I was walking in the same pair of jeans and shirt for years mind you. Which were usually bought by my dad when we were on vacation.
Only now much older does it dawn on me how little of that money actually went to cloth and feed me. I'm a straight shot with people so obviously I'd point this out to her. She'd react like a hurt child who just got accused of eating all the candy. So from that experience I'd say women just don't have the capacity to make these adult and selfless choices. When they smell the promise of money their greed takes over and they begin spending it on shit that makes them feel good. And giving their son a new pair of jeans so the girls in school won't consider him a poor dweeb is a low priority for them.
Hearing that guy tell this story about his wife was like hearing about my mother treat my dad or the girlfriends I had treat me. Shit like this will challenge you greatly not to hate women. I know there is some goodness in them but in these modern times it seems as if every women is enabled to be the biggest cunt there is.
Stories like this just hit home way to hard.
StoicCrane 8y ago
Either this or it can also be a collective way for each respective gender to vet for potential prospects en masse.
When word gets around that a group of AF fratboys made a "rotisserie chicken" out of a certain sorority girl her value in the eyes of men in that college community plummets on account of this. A naïve guy who may have had a oneitis for this chick will figuratively see her in her slutty glory deterring him from pursuing her let alone committing to her thanks to the AF frats.
A woman who wears down an Alpha or creates a legion of orbiters won't hesitate to gossip about her triumph over him/them. By doing so she expresses to women in her circle in wonanese that the man is of low value and hardly worth the time fucking since to them sex is really a bartering service in exchange for something (money, luxury, status, etc). To them if a man is of low value there's nothing to extract from him through sex so there's no point. By bringing Betas and broken Alphas to light they heighten their own sense of value and worth in the eyes of other women because she "took one for the team" and "exposed the charlatans" so others won't waste their time or resources pursuing him/them.
This might be an ingrained bioligical form of gender vetting but our biology has yet to catch up to technology. Post-industrialization where communities were more closely knit and word spread around reputation was everything in the tribe/village. But now all people have to do is pack their bags and move to the next city and they can start fresh.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Good point, I really think this is part of the reason. My own theory has been that both sexes love the idea of an easy thing. Instant gratification basically.
Us men, we love sluts. No guy will deny this ever. We would happily take all of their sex from them. The same holds true for women, they love betas. They will gladly take their money and time while leading them on, being taken out to expensive dinners.
Both have two things in common, either group likes to take the other sexes currency regardless of how 'low value' this person is. Women have no problem taking time and money from some scrawny geek for as long as he has some. And men have no problem fucking an ugly slut with the lights off. Obviously there are limits.
But the point is that the threshold for what we take is much lower than what we give. Giving away commitment only happens when the guy believes or knows his girl isn't an easy slut. Giving away sex only happens when the girl believes or knows her guy is an Alpha.
But regardless of this both sexes will never turn down a free offer. And essentially that's what Beta's and Slut's represent. They are a free pass to what the other sex ideally wants.
waytooalf 8y ago
It's just the Oedipus and Electra complex working for whoever is the dominant parent.
My mom raised me to be beta so she wouldn't feel attracted to me. Since TRP I remind her of my Chad dad and it makes her horny (shudder gross).
I think alpha dads do the same thing to their daughters. They raise them to be rational, independant and masculine so they won't remind the dad of their hot mom and feel attracted.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
For real man? It's like women can't turn this shit off.
I doubt it, since men are attracted to women physically, not behavior wise. So their efforts to make her virtuous only benefit her. The father could still be attracted theoretically. Sluts stain themselves and their families reputation.
SetConsumes 8y ago
Women create betas to set their sons up for their future wife, to be the wife's beta.
Part of why Feminism despite all its other desires doesn't want men raising children, it would take away from women grooming men to be addicted to feminine energy and be predisposed to become good beta husbands.
character_ethics 8y ago
Totally disagree.
A women will never give her son to some other random woman. There was too much of investment in raising a son. Mother raises a beta so that she can use him.
SetConsumes 8y ago
Do they do this consciously? No not necessarily. But by raising him to be her beta she's making him perfect as his future wife's beta.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Like I said in a later comment, this just proves how self centered women are. They think "all womenkind relates to me and I am the only one that matters" and rationalize from there. While men tell their daughters to be virtuous girls for their own benefit. Men think about the group, women think about themselves.
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I haven't been part of this community for so long. But comments like this and the one from OP, is actually why I manage to stay. I get all this about female nature and is beginning to see it more and more in my life, both past relationships and current, heck even in my own mother. But it can sometimes get a bit annoying to read the one sided store about the evil women. Such comments here are great as they force some introspection and paint a broader picture. Because, of course it's not black and white. It's cool to know how women operate, but this knowledge alone is not very useful, if you know nothing about yourself and what's ticking inside of you. And what's causing the entire dynamic between men and women to function.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
It's also the biggest weakness that TRP has. We mostly cover female nature while ignoring male nature. Which means that topics like "Why am I disgusted by my ex-girlfriends slutty past?" never gets discussed.
It also means we never learn what makes ourselves tick. We focus on female nature and male interests while ignoring male nature and female interests. The entire truth is still kept from us because we chose to mostly focus on women. Had we not then we would have learned allot more.
This is one of the reasons why allot of TRP-ers believe that a CC-riding slut is actually having a good time and 'beating' us at our own game. Failing to grasp that women operate different, we ignore what their interests are. If we would then we'd discover most women are very insecure and miserable while riding the CC.
[deleted] 8y ago
That's exactly right. I'm totally into all this stuff about females and there are a lot of golddiggers and slutty superficial women out there. I have been treated bad by women a couple of times, but mostly (and I might have been lucky in my selection), I feel I have been treated quite fair. Much of this preaching about "the evil whores" comes from the fact, that guys associate themselves with exactly these sluts and get the AWALT impression. Not to say that not all women can have certain characteristics and can be opportunistic etc., but it varies depending on the type you choose. If you go for the top looking females and go to pick them up in certain environments, you might get the "every mans dream girls" but you can propably set yourself up for the most shit testing and the highest propabillity for her cheating. That should be simple logic for all men who claim to be enlightened. Which some of the guys in here are definetely not according to their paroting of RP theories and their own superficial comments and attacks on even slight disagreements to their own comfortable paradigm regarding their newly discovered RP.
TissueBabies 8y ago
TRP is object and goal oriented. Men fix things. At the end of the day, if we don't know how it works/how to fix the cause, we are much more likely to remedy the symptom. A complete RP solution would focus ourselves more than the mechanics of the sexual market.
RobertCarraway 8y ago
We'll get there. TRP has only been around for a few years and already the men here are having this discussion. This is a group of men who don't shy away from responsibility and difficult questions.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Few people realize this though, all be it in less extreme forms like PUA does.
SetConsumes 8y ago
Defining alpha and beta and putting forth the notion of positive masculinity is figuring out how men tick. But, it's less discussed perhaps because it's easier for men to understand and see, as opposed to the convoluted nature of women and their being emotional creatures.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
You are certainly right about that.
derektwerd 8y ago
My mother may have done that to me. However, I remember once how she said she raised 5 men and not a set of balls between them. All in relationship at the time. All being betacized (is that a word?). She was basically giving us a hard time for not being men and even called us pussies for not standing up to our wives and girlfriends. Only 1 is still married, the rest broke up or divorced. So I guess you could say she had a point.
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PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Sounds like your mom atleast had something right, mine tried doing the opposite. But I turned out the opposite due to circumstance from an early age. Much to her displeasure.
derektwerd 8y ago
Yea, and I just read about the promise keeper or whatever. That shit hit hard. My dad cheated on my mum a lot. he had 11 kids total, 5 with my mum and 6 with 5 other women, 4 of which were conceived while they were together.
I only discovered this thread yesterday and my eyes have been opened.
SetConsumes 8y ago
Sounds like your dad was an untameable alpha.
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mummersfarce_is_done 8y ago
Your father has amassed an army.
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p3n1x 8y ago
Many were burned in their past or never learned the pleasure of proper submission. They are trying to raise a unicorn and not understanding the future fallout from teaching a young male that the "white knights" are what women get tingles from.
Where is dad in this equation? Most of the time emasculated and castrated into constantly trying to "please" this angry woman.
Its like a dad giving his daughter "too much" attention believing that is what keeps them from twirling on a pole later. That girl grows up assuming all men owe her that attention.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Yet you would never see a father promote sexual promiscuity in his daughter, never. While mothers definitely promote betaness in their sons.
The only explanation I can come up with is that men think about the group interest at large, this is a quality a leader has to posses (and all men are leaders). While women are mostly interested in their own interests, which means they don't consider that raising their son Beta would make him unhappy sexually. They only think about how this son can be useful to them.
I've definitely seen this with mothers where they were purposefully cockblocking their son, not giving a shit if he got laid or not.
SetConsumes 8y ago
Essentially, yeah, women are selfish and still want the control and power their attached sons give them. Heh, my mother still tries to control me through guilt and what not, she hates how little power she has over me.
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Not all mothers. A good mother just offers unconditional love, care and support. Her son then grows up to be who he wants to be. Problem is in our modern society gender equality tells women they need to work and have an education, not focus on the more important task of being a devoted mother. Blame feminism for the fact that women do not want to be women any more. Feminism is the enemy of women, children, society and men. It is a blight and there will be a backlash soon.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Exactly, a good mother should know better and set her son up for success. This is another great example for why single mothers are low value scum.
mummersfarce_is_done 8y ago
Can you elaborate more on mothers purposefully cockblocking their sons?
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Mothers can be jealous that the attention of their son is being stolen by another woman. Remember that women care about commitment so in essence mothers also receive the commitment of their sons.
This holds especially true for single mothers. Them cockblocking you would manifests in forms like banning any female companionship in your house, barging into your room when you're with a girl or otherwise making things purposefully awkward so the girl leaves and the mother is safe again.
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Experienced this firsthand, Had a girl I was interested in, mom didn't like her, for what she described as this girl being a bad influence. Mom talks to girls mother and tells her to stay away from me. Mom discusses this with my friends mother, explains why she did it, friend overhears and tells me. Cue to me, sitting there 2 years later wondering why this girl cut contact after being so crazy about me in the first place, I ask my mom and she admits to telling this girls mom to keep her daughter away from me, MFW.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Yeh women always prove they are vile creatures deep inside, or atleast have the potential to be so. Usually it's much more subtle. Most guys won't even notice because they are so deep into their mothers web of deceit.
The only fair thing I can say is that fathers by en large also sabotage their daughters relationships. All be it that they do it out of actual concern and rarely does it result in their daughter having no romantic options.
Guys on the other hand can definitely be affected by their lack of sex due to their mothers nosing. When my mother still lived with us I had the least lays in my life. She moment she was gone my neighborhood turned into fucktown.
Joseph_the_Carpenter 8y ago
Think Archer's mother. Cartoon setting aside it's a perfect example of an alcoholic narcissistic parent setting up codependency with their child.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
Women never cease to amaze me, takes a first hall of fame cunt to view her own son as personal livestock. I've never watched the cartoon sadly.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/12/madonnas-and-whores/
gisquestions 8y ago
vague
in no way an answer to the simple question posed above
you could, for all intents and purposes, condense a good one to two sentence answer to the question right? or is copypasta more your style?
StoicCrane 8y ago
You give him too little credit. My question was too layered to explain with a 5 word sentence. From what I've read in the link thus far it's a notable explanation that acknowledges the apparent contradiction of both strategies.
p3n1x 8y ago
You are asking a question about copy/paste that was answered at the top of this page.
corsega 8y ago
Does your wife know about your blog? Does she agree with what you write?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Of course.
For the most part she agrees, but I enjoy it when she doesn't because then I get to test my ideas against her own preconceptions. She does read certain posts that I think are good and I link her.
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How have you been able to align your daughter with redpill acceptance? How have you been able to prevent her from taking too much stock in her own opinions and from being overly ambitious, in a masculine sense? You've mentioned previously that you're allowing her to go to college, presumably to attain a career. How can we teach our daughters that while they have a special role in life, that they are not the equal of their husbands and that their ideas and goals do require vetting from a man in authority over them? How can we gift them the autonomy of a career and then yank the rug out and mandate their submission and relegation to the home at the behest of their husbands? Game can only elicit submission in the bedroom. Outside of the bedroom, and particularly with highly educated girls they are staunch egalitarians to everyone's disadvantage. Is it crueler to let our daughters get a taste of flying when we just have to clip their wings after marriage?
Just to add to that I'm sure your daughter inherited a sizeable IQ as that is a heritable trait from the father. You know that leading evo psych research points that the more intelligent a girl is there is an exponential decrease in her desire to procreate. For every 10 pts above average intellect, her interests in womb fruit plummet 15%. This dysgenic trend is sadly rooted in feminism and careerism. They aint faking it when they claim to lust after achievement. The situation is unfortunately untenable. It sucks to have to limit someone's self determination but Men will only sire their heirs with submissive women and highly intellectually gifted girls are stridently egalitarian. When left to their own devices, they won't breed because they truly do not want to be obedient and submit. What's the game plan for yielding future generations that have a modicum of intelligence if we don't hobble the ambitions of quantifiably intelligent girls?
FurrowBeard 8y ago
Rollo,
My question pertains to the future in regards to red pill philosophy and feminism. In your opinion, when can we expect feminism to die out and the western western world to move towards a more healthy culture of gender dynamic acceptance and aclnowledgment? I'd be very interested in any further reading into this topic as well if you can provide me with any.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Unfortunately no. The Feminine Imperative is always fluidly reimagining itself and rewriting its own histories. Whether that's Chivalry or Feminism (both ideological extensions of the FI) or something else, you can expect there will be some new social incarnation so long as there are men and women's power paradigms.
truthseeker201 8y ago
Rollo,
do you think The Red Pill is compatible at all with Christianity? I am a born again Christian but struggle with deciding if TRP and Christianity has common ground. Are there any good Christian based TRP authors or material ai could read.
Thanks
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes, but I would refer you to Dalrock's blog for more practical information.
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RPSnuggles 8y ago
What do you view as the best way to reset your brain after a BPD ex and a financial crisis soon after?
PranksterLad 8y ago
Right here with you Snuggles. How was she BPD?
RPSnuggles 8y ago
5, sometimes 6 of these symptoms
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20023204
PranksterLad 8y ago
She had maybe two of these.
RPSnuggles 8y ago
A few of these were situational. A couple were steady.
A big tell is a woman who uses always and never statements constantly when anyone who knows the truth knows it is a lie. Ex. I never do this.
PranksterLad 8y ago
So you think she does have a BPD, just because she says always and never.
RPSnuggles 8y ago
Nope. It is an amalgamation. Plus, she told me 1 year in. Started to make sense after the gaslighting started.
PranksterLad 8y ago
Explain gas lighting, how it starts, do they know they do this?
RPSnuggles 8y ago
Major shit testing. Questioning yourself deeply. Making you think you need them. Can be done in a multitude of forms. Usually when they fear losing you or when they get insecure about your interest level. No, it is subconscious and if you tell them what they were doing then they will deny.
PranksterLad 8y ago
The thing is, she never thought she would lose me, I wanted her more than anything, so I dont understand how she thought she would lose me. She wasn't insecure.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Time away and for yourself is paramount in my opinion. I rarely endorse 'monk-mode' but in this case I would.
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CRAIBaby 8y ago
What are your thoughts on The Power of Now? Are we spiritual beings even? Is enlightenment achievable?
Or is this all nonsense and moral values are all part of our social conditioning and we should just maximize our own utility instead while deprogramming us from the moral barriers and go full dark triad?
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
What is your opinion about female promiscuity and how it could correlate between a males beta mindset. A.k.a. Sluts and Betas are the same. One gives away time freely, the other gives away sex freely. Their respective sexual currency. And so both are examples of low value. Men don't commit to sluts, Women don't have sex with betas.
I've not seen you cover any of this in your past articles, yet it would explain allot of dynamics. For example, when a man breaks frame and proves himself a beta- the woman is disgusted. When a woman slips up and turns out to be a slut- the man is disgusted.
Both end up in loss of attraction for the opposing sex. Is this the missing link the Manosphere has been ignoring all this time?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Every man wants a slut, he just wants her to be HIS slut. https://therationalmale.com/2012/01/06/the-slut-paradox/
You'd be surprised by how many men commit to sluts. In 2016 it's almost an impossibility not to. The problem with your equation here is that in a feminine-primary social order the slut is generally forgiven while the Beta is universally punished by order of degrees.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
I've read that article but I have to disagree. Men don't knowingly commit to sluts (most men that is). No man ever has watched porn and uttered "That girl is so hot, I want to marry her". Men love personal sluts, not village whores.
I do agree that in 2016 it's almost impossible to not end up with one, then again the same holds true for women. How many true Alpha men do you know? Most women will end up with Betas alike.
Doesn't that constitute a social issue rather than sexual dynamic problem? Sluts are women and in our society women are to be 'revered' which includes the slut. This however doesn't change the way men feel about sluts. There's a definite consideration going on in the male hind-brain whenever he meets a new girl, based on promiscuity. If this wasn't the case men wouldn't fret so much about N-counts and virginity wouldn't hold the status it did back in the old days.
manwhowouldbeking 8y ago
Where do you find your motivation or discipline? Did you develop them or was it something that you always just had.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Developed. And I'm still developing it actually.
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What would be your advice and plan for a hardcase newbie (definition of RSD is virgin, skinny/overweight, no friends, no experience with girls, women or very little and he ended up deep in the friendzone and being emotional tampon...) ?
Ascended_One 8y ago
Also, realize that things take time and that contrary to what TRP teaches you, you don't have to be perfect.
I would actually recommend you to avoid TRP subreddit altogether for a while. Just read the books/sidebar. RSD has some good stuff though.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Learn the foundations of Red Pill awareness first. Fully unplug and kill the inner Beta before you go looking for magic formulas to get your dream girl. There's a process to it and if you skip ahead to parts you're unprepared for you end up like Eliot Rodger did.
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mummersfarce_is_done 8y ago
Why don't you increase your SMV? Lift, begin an activity that will boost your testosterone. Lose your fat. You're probably in lethargy. Do something active.
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You're right. But what do i do next?
SuperduperCooper23 8y ago
I'd start with what you can control without needing anyone else first. Weight loss, lifting, well fitting/stylish clothes. Once you become attractive you'll be able to have far more opportunities to build confidence through positive reinforcement.
mummersfarce_is_done 8y ago
Well, before being concerned with the next step focus on your current step. The improvement stage takes time but it is not hard, it is just long.
Developing a toned body helps many things. It fixes your hormone levels and mental strength. It will make you get into the mood a thousand logical advice cannot. It will boost your SMV significantly. It will fix any problems you might have with self-loathing and self-hate. It will boost your confidence as you will have something solid to base it upon. Seriously, this first step is also the most important. But you know that already. Go ahead and do it.
Another advice I would give is to not try to be social with people right now. I mean if an opportunity to talk presents itself, entertain the conversation but don't seek it aggressively. Maybe your bad social experience is what is keeping you in a negative feedback loop. Right now, it is much better to be in the monk mode mentally and feel a slight detachment. At this lowest stage, don't even bother talking to women. You'll only frustrate yourself until you have some SMV to attract them. What matters is whether you are in a negative or positive feedback loop. As long as you are improving your station you will feel motivated. You might feel some comfort and begin to slack off. When that happens remember to keep your discipline to continue, as with it gone you will enter into a negative feedback loop again. stagnation will bring you back into a negative feedback loop remember that. And as always, read whatever material you can find on TRP.
kez88 8y ago
Not Rollo but just get the fuck out there and start doing it. Action is the biggest advantage a man can have. There is literally nothing stopping you from leaving your house right now and going and approaching girls on the street and start talking to them.
There is nothing stopping you from going to the gym, throwing a party, trying to meet up with friends, finding a hobby to meet MORE friends.
There is nothing stopping you from cutting off the women in your life who are using you as an emotional tampon.
Just tell a woman what you want, and go out and be what you want.
ManowaR1488 8y ago
What's your take on the Red Pill movie in australia thing.
Also, sign my dick?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I'm not a big fan of the documentary. It was opportunistically titled The Red Pill at the behest of MRAs in order to appropriate a term for which they've always distanced themselves from, but they saw a popular brand.
The movie is only ostensibly about the MRM – it has literally nothing to do with TRP – and is really just a "journey of self-discovery" for its feminist producer Cassie Jaye, exactly as I predicted it would. The MRM will never acknowledge that because they mistakenly believe that any press is good press.
These are the people the MRM would have as the face of TRP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vLzYuaDcQ
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
She knew the name would bring controversy as well, thanks namely to our hard work here.
RedEyesBlueShades 8y ago
Fucking. Pathetic.
Seriously. Cringeworthy.
The guy in the video clip, that is. Could not watch that until the end, stopped after a few min.
tehredsea 8y ago
Hi Rollo,
What signs do you suggest I look for to figure out whether I am a rebound for a girl, a friend suggested this is the situation I'm in, but I am the one who initiated any interaction beyond the activity we have in common. For reference, the girl and I are in the same social circle. She had been with the same guy since high school and recently 10yrs later they are divorcing. When i first met her i was attracted to her but kept my distance. I am positive she has very low N-count, if not only her ex-hus. What do you think?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
If you're the first guy she's been with after a 10 year marriage, you're the rebound guy regardless of signs. What you need to be more concerned with is her ex's Alpha impact on her (is she an Alpha Widow or was his going Beta what split them up?) and are you her Plan B. If you've been waiting in the wings for 10 years, the answer is likely yes.
https://therationalmale.com/2016/03/14/plan-b/
tehredsea 8y ago
I see what you mean. I definitely have not been waiting for her, I've known her for 3 years, but we were never close aside from our shared activity. Her ex was definitely not alpha from having known him. I haven't orbited in any capacity and never made or let myself be a backup. It's only until two months ago that I decided to make a move. She even admitted to me she thought she annoyed me when she was in my bed. I myself have been Rp aware for a little over a year and my main motivation is to smash not ltr. But because I'm still working on my frame, I'm trying not catch feelings.I appreciate the honesty.
Does this change your opinion?
JayHerman 8y ago
Hello Rollo, I'm new here. I've lurked this subreddit on-and-off for half a year or so now. From what I understand, you are one of the few individuals in this sphere who is able to maintain a "traditional" marriage/long-term-relationship.
What is you advice to find women compatible with this goal? If you want to link some of your articles on the subject, I'd be game to read them.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
First off, I never use my marriage as some kind of metric for what guys can achieve themselves. My career, my talents, my personality and my grasp of Red Pill awareness, Game and psychology are unique to me.
My marriage is an anomaly in today's world. That said, you might read this:
https://therationalmale.com/2015/10/10/the-vetting-process/
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Auvergnat 8y ago
You haven't entirely killed the beta, and the almost-unicorn you found is resurrecting it.
If you are red pill aware, Im sure you know what will happen to her career, her libido, and her submissiveness once she got your commitment locked in.. you cannot afford to become optionless
Auvergnat 8y ago
You haven't entirely killed the beta, and the almost-unicorn you found is resurrecting it.
If you are red pill aware, Im sure you know what will happen to her career, her libido, and her submissiveness once she got your commitment locked in.. you cannot afford to become optionless
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Keep this one as a plate and get back in the field. If you're backsliding into a Beta mindset in only a month with this girl that's a bad sign. Furthermore, if sex was just OK, this isn't a good omen either.
Your SMV is high now, but consider what it will be when you're a lawyer at 36 years old. Would you rather be able to explore your options then, or take the lack luster girl you have now?
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En-Zu 8y ago
Is it possible to be RP without having the pick up artist mentality/drive?
I ask because I find I actually find it a lot more satisfying to sate my sex drive with a low-key but still sorta monogamous relationship and I wonder if not caring about pua and "game" is adversely affecting me.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Absolutely. In fact, I daresay that most RP guys are RP 'aware' but never really put that awareness into practice.
Beware that you don't get caught up trying to fulfill Blue Pill idealistic goals with Red Pill awareness though.
https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/22/dream-girls-and-children-with-dynamite/
En-Zu 8y ago
What would fulfilling blue pill idealistic goals with red pill awareness even look like?
[deleted] 8y ago
Purple pill. Pursuing your oneitis with "RP tactics". Self improvement for the sake of women and not for yourself.
Some claim pursuing marriage even while RP aware but shit I want kids and I dont want them to be raised by a single mother. I plan to take the harder path because I want to raise red pilled men and women who will be solid foundations of future society. Some men have to do it, but those that do tread a fine line between red and purple (and perhaps even blue...).
growingstronk 8y ago
Searching for the happy ever after as a main goal while using red pill principles to get it
mlgwarrior420 8y ago
How do I get a chick to grind on me without asking? The music is too loud!
Dronitto 8y ago
So, i am in a dead end. Stupid job, low pay, no alternative jobs, almost no skill(just basic computer stuff, some knowledge of a foreign language). A small debt to pay, school to pay(the school suck tho...). No father, 23 years old, no savings. How the hell i climb this shit when i am 23 years old... Everyday i go to work, come back, eat, train, read some books or learn some new words on duolingo but then its time to bed. I can feel my soul is dead in these conditions.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Read this book now: https://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Robert-Greene/dp/014312417X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477667352&sr=8-1&keywords=Mastery
[deleted] 8y ago
lately people seem to have calmed down about TRP, with respect to that, how do you see TRP evolving over the next few years?
also which is faster your greyhounds or your skidoo
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I believe if Hillary gets elected you'll see a groundswell of men seeking out the community and I really think we need to be prepared for it. Hillary's presidency will be the most polarizing force in gender relations western society has ever known. You will have the extreme elements of the Feminine Imperative at war with the Red Pill aware mindset.
You will literally see human casualties as a result of a Matriarchy and the naivette of egalitarianism's influences. We need to prepare ourselves for this inevitability.
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What do you mean calmed down?
[deleted] 8y ago
as in i've seen it mentioned less outside of TRP
[deleted] 8y ago
Missed the chance last time:
You asked on Twitter how would you open a table of girls all on smartphones. How would you?
What's your thoughts on the treatment of greyhounds In spain, especially after hunting season
Do you prefer skidoo, bombardier, or the Japanese brands?
Also, you never talk about your wife, but you Made it through raising kids without an incident as best I can tell. How much of her was about quality vetting, and how much was proper 'bitch management' as humansockpuppet would call it?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
When I posted that pic I was petitioning PUAs, I'll leave that up to them to decide.
Spain is one of the most deplorable countries for Greyhound racing. Their treatment is inhumane and I've read that they sell the dogs to China for food sometimes. I'm not anti-racing, but I am for strict regulation in breeding and training.
Skidoo and Bombardier are jet ski brands, not snowmobiles. I own a Yamaha 800 in-line 3, 155 long track and I'm considering buying a new Arctic Cat this year.
I wish I could say vetting from a Red Pill perspective had anything to do with it, but my wife and I have always been on the same team with regard to raising Bebé Tomassi. I would say 10% vetting and 90% Red Pill aware management, but really it's not management since my reflexive responses default to Red Pill reactions.
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Ouch on the skidoo. Interesting on the wife. Cheerd
450k_crackparty 8y ago
Lol what? Skidoo is most definitely a snowmobile brand. The name is practically a synonym for snowmobile (like kleenex, saran wrap). Not only that, but Bombardier aka BRP is the producer of the Skidoo brand.
The man is an RP legend, but if you don't know that Skidoo makes fucking skidoos....
edit: maybe I missed the joke that he thinks Bombardier makes shitty sleds.
MKG24 8y ago
Dude, he was being sarcastic. I have a Summit that would run circles around his 800.
450k_crackparty 8y ago
Yeah I made an edit after I posted that. Has to be it. Just seemed like an awkward way to make that joke since they're the same brand.
tacocobbler 8y ago
What are your most rewarding hobbies/pursuits? Thanks for all you do
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Rewarding?
A lot of people don't know that I'm an artist by trade. Pretty much any creative endeavor I apply myself to is what I find rewarding. That can be anything artistic I do. I draw, I paint, I dabble in sculpting, I'm an accomplished musician and I write a lot more than just TRP material.
I particularly love it when I can mix my business endeavors with my creative gifts. People know I work in marketing and branding in the gaming (gambling) and liquor industries, but what they don't know is that I'm the principle creative behind pretty much everything I do in my profession. I've created over 50 individual products where I've been responsible for the concept all the way thru to production. I design and illustrate every one of them too.
mugsaucecity 8y ago
If it's private no worries, but what do your main business endeavors consist of? How concerned are you with keeping a balance between making money and having enough time to relax?
cashcow1 8y ago
How do you stay consistent with being an artist?
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dr_warlock 8y ago
1) It's easy, just shut the fuck up. Act dumb about your knowledge and keep good vibes to blend in. You'd be amazed how little people care for content as opposed just 'being cool' and laid back. Vibe > Content.
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Sidenote:
People have this need to be percieved as 'enlightened'. Get over it. It's just mental masturbation. TRP (the sub) is just one manifestation of enlightenment. It could be about the Federal Reserve, the truth's about slavery, or politics, something truth related. Redpill truth is heavy. Heavy = unpleasant. People that argue buzz topics aren't looking to come to a collective truth, they're just seeking an emotional buzz within blue pill boundaries (no red pill).
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I have a group from this sub that I meet with here and there, and I don't even talk about anything 'red pill'. People have gone all week doing the 9-5 and commuting. When they hang out, they just wanna have fun and chill. Forming a group with TRP sub vetting process just puts the mind at ease knowing everyone around you is of the same mindset and don't have to censor yourself if TRP is appropriate to discuss. Outside that, the whole 'discussing philosophy and TRP theory in a room'-fantasy is bullshit. Keep that shit to yourself and have fun.
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2) Be financially independent via self-employment so that you can't be fired by HR. On top of that, don't mix your identity with the business and only speak to management. Delegate the interactions with the lessers to management so that you don't get SJW hordes making slander and protest campaigns online and at your front door.
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Most of all, no matter what happens, always hold frame. Even when you're outed. Never apologize. Never explain yourself. It will only make matters worse. Humans instinctively despise weakness and will double down on their tactics just because they smell it on you.
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3) If you do browse the manosphere in public, make sure nobody is within eye shot of your screen. Most people don't care if others can see what they're doing on their phone because they're engaging in activity acceptable by the blue pill i.e. facebook and fantasy football. Anything manosphere related is a no-no. Have a password on your phone too.
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4) Did I mention shut the fuck up? I promise, if you feel there's a window of opportunity to slip in some 'enlightenment' you get a textbook bluepill regurgitation and backlash. I tried many times in the past, especially when I was a newb here. Don't even bother. Read the material and interact online for your intellectual fix, then move on by ACTING the red pill and shut up.
fingerthemoon 8y ago
I have a friend that I've tried to help numerous times with women. Shared theory and even pointed to trp. I told him in confidence and asked him not to ever mention to anyone that I read this stuff... He continues to be a lazy dumbass and I suspect he told a mutual friend who called me out in front of a couple other friends when I was debating my bros girlfriend about men and women. He tried to say I sounded like an MRA and that it was poison on the mind. I asked what MRA was, and then said I got my information from reading evo psych. They all wrote me off as being bitter towards women because my ex left me... Lesson learned - don't talk about this shit. You might be tempted like I was to help a buddy, just be aware that it can turn and bite you.
truthseeker201 8y ago
I think you guys are a bit too paranoid. It's how you word things that makes red pill ideas seem scientific vs sexist. When you talk to people and explain to them the evolutionary or psychological reasoning behind a woman's behavior, it does not sound as hateful. You're company has to be pretty pathetic to fire you for having an intellectual convo on the differences between the two sexes.
fingerthemoon 8y ago
People continue to astound me with just how stupid, judgmental and closed-minded they are. I found evo psych before trp and was talking about the science with a lot of people before I got smart and shut my trap.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Well, if Hillary gets elected I expect copies of The Rational Male will be read in secret by candlelight by groups of men like the Bible in communist China.
Hard to say, but I think men ought to understand that it's an indictment of a feminine-primary social order that feminists like Jessica Valenti can write self-conflicting feminist agit-prop for the Guardian and make a good living while men fear for their jobs and livelihood for posting Red Pill comments or Tweets online.
I will likely be a bit more public with my persona after the 3rd book drops, but even still, it's impossible to shake the stigma of "misogyny" no matter how successful a Red Pill author you are. The mainstream loves an easily hate-able villain and nothing is more satisfying than a straight man who plays into the misogynist narrative.
atlantium65 8y ago
Rollo, your post and discussions on sexual fluidity were EXACTLY what happened to my family this year. Dad got sick, mom in mid 40s started dating this younger butch girl and now they live together. She is now "I have a second chance at life to do all the things I never did" This was a big factor in finding red pill.
Will we be seeing this more in our society?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes. And it will be reinforced by the feminine-primary push to marginalize and ridicule the importance of men. Men are superfluous in this societal scheme, but masculine dominance and competency is still necessary and attractive.
Solutions: Imbue women with that masculinity.
I believe we're already beginning to see the widespread push of normalizing transgenderism – 95% of which is male to female – will be the next step in making men into women. This is actually an evo-bio phenomenon in populations where it is more advantageous to be female than male or vice versa.
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Let me preface this by saying I am not a conspiracy theory guy (I give Neoreactionsafe an ear bashing when he starts with that pseudo religious babble). However it is obvious that men control most of the money and power in the world. Do you think the uber elites and uber rich people in the world give a shit about the feminine primary push, or is it just another amusing distraction to the masses for them? The old world rich men (Cecil Rhodes, Rothchilds) wielded tremendous power yet it appears your modern billionaire (manginas such as Zuckerberg and Bill Gates) will simply be handing off their money to help the third world rather than establishing entrenched dynasties. Do you think the old and the new rich power brokers care about these issues at all? My feeling is the whole movement is just a way for the media to sell product by triggering 50% of the population.
RobertCarraway 8y ago
Feminism:
1) undermines all male hierarchies that compete with the state for power
2) slows population growth through delayed and limited maternity
Tell me, do you really think Gates foundation supports feminism in the third world through pure altruism? If so I've got ocean front property in Arizona I'd like to sell you. They are stabilizing the system. Not only do they care about these issues, they actively fund feminism. Look at one of the following objectives from their website:
EMPOWER THE POOREST ESPECIALLY WOMEN AND GIRLS, TO TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES
The resistance that RP men have to this idea comes from them not wanting to investigate these ideas for themselves and cognitive dissonance caused by the amount of re-wiring they need to do in their own brains.
The Rockefeller Foundation funded the "New Science of Man" as they called it to promote their twin pillars of eugenics and social control. These are their own stated goals. Look again at the two major impacts of feminism that I listed at the top. Coincidence? Foundations like the Gates foundation act in EXACTLY the same way that the Rockefeller foundation has always acted. See The molecular vision of life and read the foundation's own words.
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Can i skype you , i would like to talk you for a few minutes. Thx my skype: live:frincu_daiurs
copy everything from ,,live:frincu_darius " Thx ,wish you the best.
PranksterLad 8y ago
just also wrote on your blog.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I am doing one on one consults again so yes.
If anyone else is interested I'd be happy to talk to you. I do charge for my time, but it's a pay-what-you-want arrangement. Leave me a message on my About comment thread and I'll set something up with you:
https://therationalmale.com/about/
pokerkid89 8y ago
I have read both books and just wanted to say Thank you Rollo!
teeelo 8y ago
Rollo, how old were you approximately when you began this passion for writing?
Can you type out one of your blog posts in a few hours?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I've always loved story telling since I was about 12, but I wouldn't say it was a compulsion until I got into writing in college, a LOT. Honestly, my old SoSuave posts, my blog and the books are really an extension of the compulsive writing habit I developed back then. My mind wont let me not write now, so I keep a notebook with me all the time so I don't forget ideas as they come to me.
Depends on the post. Sometimes I get a really clear idea and grind away at it. Those are posts that take 1-1.5 hours. Then there are posts in my drafts folder that sit there for months until I get some new insight about the topic and I craft the essay of a period of time. Most of my longer, more involved essays are like this.
[deleted] 8y ago
Hi Rollo,
What advice, if any, would you have for a woman working on herself? I've been following TRP for 6 months and it's done wonders for my relationship, but I find female guidance is extremely lacking.
I've learned how to sew, and am working at initiating sex n a more seductive way. Can you recommend anything else I can do to improve my relationship even more?
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Learn how some Asian women treat their men. They do 100% of the housework, they are submissive, supportive and feminine. Nothing attracts me to a woman (after beauty) more than someone who legitimately wants to take care of me, wants to see me succeed, and wants me to be happy. A pro tip (I swear I am not being crude here for the sake of being crude), but you gotta give up that ass. A woman who does not give her SO anal is not giving all of herself, and that is disrespectful.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Learn to be a complement to a man's life in as conventionally feminine a way as you can. It's a rare woman who cultivates conventional femininity as part of her personality rather than some value-added part of who she is.
Hussssy 8y ago
Have a read of the surrendered wife, I try to read it a few times a year so it stays fresh. It's an excellent book for women in relationships. There is also a Red Pill Wives reddit account
yyiiii 8y ago
First Kill All the Marriage Counsellors is the revised and expanded version of Surrendered Wife. Picked it up to take a look, it was fantastic, showed my wife the author speaking on youtube, and she went out and bought herself a copy. Highly recommended.
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reddestlurker 8y ago
Rollo, thanks for your invaluable input into the collective body of knowledge we call TRP. I have read your previous responses to the marriage question, to marry or not to marry? To my redpill brothers living in the western world, I understand its a big NO. However, I am Kenyan and over here its a fault divorce system. Even though Divorce rates are steadily climbing as the feminist wave steadily hits these shores, I personally don't know a divorcee yet. That's no reason to celebrate though, marriages over here take a huge toll on men. The betaization process by women who don't see a way out of marriage can be quite vicious. I'm 25, just finished a STEM degree, with a 30+ notch count that includes married women (this opened my eyes more than anything) and i'd like your perspective. Would you advise me to get married?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
No. You're still 10 years out from your peak SMV. Why marry (really at all) when you'll be in a better position of selection at 35?
Establish yourself and your base worth now while you're single and unencumbered with the responsibilities of marriage or kids and you'll be in a far better position in a decade, with a firm understanding of your SMV to women.
reddestlurker 8y ago
Thanks Rollo. Much appreciated
JosephMGTOW 8y ago
question: is mgtow a valid path to choose?
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I take issue with the popular conception of what Mark presumes is vulnerability here: https://therationalmale.com/2014/11/23/vulnerability/
Strum_Gewehr 8y ago
What are your views on porn ?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Not a fan. Porn is anesthesia for men: https://therationalmale.com/2011/11/17/the-pheromonal-beta/
lqtys 8y ago
Do you think feeling a deep connection with a girl and not wanting an LTR with her are incompatible things? Is it possible to feel deep connection and rapport with a plate without implying a one-itis or long term relationship? (I mean, just living experiences, traveling together, doing things different than just fucking, but also plating more girls at same time).
Of course I have to add that I liked your books too much and I really enjoyed your style of writing, even when my mediocre english skills made it difficult for me sometimes to understand it (being difficult does not equal not enjoying it, challenges are always enjoyable, and you learn a lot).
LaRedPill 8y ago
Are you planning to translate the books? (to spanish for example) I started my blog in spanish exactly because there are almost no real resources for men in my language. And I would love to have your book, translated, to my kin and friends.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
You know, I've been looking into other translations recently, but I'm focused on book 3 now. It'll be a definite priority in 2017.
exit_sandman 8y ago
You already got translators?
adam-l Senior Endorsed 8y ago
Book 1 definitely deserves a revisited edition, one that would turn it from an organized collection of essays into a more structured book. If you are looking into publishing translations, which are a great deal of work on themselves, that kind of work would be of double benefit. I guess you have three options, 1) re-write it yourself, 2) work with a good professional editor, 3) work with someone from the manosphere in a semi-professional arrangement.
_teleno 8y ago
As a Spanish mate, I'd like to read it
LaRedPill 8y ago
My blog? www.laredpill.com
Bitchezbecrayy 8y ago
Whatever became of Roissy? A lot of his earlier stuff (07-10) are some of the best there is out there. I see a lot of you and Roosh, but nothing from Roissy. Are you in touch with him? Any detail would be much appreciated.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Roissy, the individual, is gone. Chateau Heartiste changed ownership around 2009 and it's believed that the posts are primarily written by 3 or 4 guys who shared Roissy's sensibilities. Unfortunately CH isn't what it used to be in the golden age. I still like it, but it's far more driven by political, social and racial ideology now.
red-pill-man 8y ago
He goes by the name "yareally".
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Bitchezbecrayy 8y ago
Thanks Rollo! Any idea what happened to him? Hard to imagine a damn good writer of his caliber just vanishing into the wind unless outed and destroyed by SJWs and the likes.
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he and pook bought a condo, running game into the sunset
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That is what I would like to believe. I think it is more likely that they both got fat and married....
Bitchezbecrayy 8y ago
I don't think anybody would have a hard time believing that.
Auvergnat 8y ago
I prefer to think they took a ship to the Undying Lands with Gandalf and the elves.
sonder_one 8y ago
Two questions about what I perceive to be contradictions in common Red Pill conversation:
First, how do we balance outcome independence with having goals and purpose? I'm supposed to persevere towards my goal, but not care if I lose it?
Second, how do we balance social proof and preselection with the idea that we don't want women to use us as girlfriends/orbiters?
prodigy2throw 8y ago
What is something about women or game that you wish you knew when you were 16?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I think the concept of Hypergamy (AF/BB). My 16 y.o. self would never listen though.
luckylosing 8y ago
Rollo, there have been recent posts made regarding imposter syndrome. I am able to keep it at bay for the most part recently, but it still rears its head sometimes. From your experience, is this something that I can realistically expect to grow out of in time?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Personality is always malleable.
https://therationalmale.com/2012/01/13/just-be-yourself/
Incredulous_Ed 8y ago
Hi Rollo, just want to say thank you for everything you do - I was fortunate enough to discover your writing when I was 19, and I can't tell you how grateful I am that it wasn't any later than that. It's kind of interesting - I see an LCSW through my healthcare provider every month and he's a big fan of yours. In fact, he said I'm the only person he's met in real life who knew about the red pill/manosphere.
Recently you've written about the feminization of the western church, and being an active church go-er, I've seen a lot of it first hand - which of course, makes me a bit skeptical about taking relationship advice from some of these folks.
I can't really see myself in a relationship with a non christian, just due to differing wold views. There aren't many young women in the church scene where I'm at, so where does that leave me in the meantime? Casually date outside my religious views? Or just self imposed celibacy? What am I missing out on by not dating? Thank you again for your time.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Just know that you're deliberately limiting your experience with women by choosing to date within a specific belief parameter. We all do this to an extent, but in the case of men in the church, and the blatantly open feminization of it, this makes for a cohort of men given to rationalizing their dating or sexless conditions to religious reasonings that are corrupted by a feminine-primary influence.
In your case I would be careful of how you let this affect your maturity and the development of your Game and social skill sets. Most religious guys I know are very self-righteously Beta and their social skill set never develops past what their youth pastors (Betas themselves) have told them Godly Chicks dig.
Be careful that you don't get lost in the Quest for the Righteous Fox. She doesn't exist:
https://therationalmale.com/2011/12/08/chasing-amy/
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Remember that a woman will take the shape of her container. IOW, work on your Frame. Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism for Jared Kushner.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
If I can point out the cracks in the ideology of a Blue Pill conditioned society with little more than basic deductive reasoning is that not a cause for Blue Pill existential doubt? Or would you rather go back to the comfort of the cocoon?
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You asked rollo, but this may help
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Hello Rollo, How do you maintain a frequent sex life when you've been married a long time ?
Most of the married men I know tend to seem like they never get sex and only a select few claim to get it almost everyday but I'm a sceptic.
Maintaining SMV is of course key, but what do you do if she starts swatting your hands away and saying "no" or getting an excuse when you go for it more times than her submitting to you. Is it simply a loss of attraction? The great Patrice would say "let a bitch know you have options" but if you're doing everything by the book and you're noticing she's slowly tapering off wanting your cock and starts duty fucking you less and less frequently.
Attraction cannot be negotiated, talking to her about it would be pointless and only temporarily work, if that all. Besides "upping the dread" or pitching her and getting it elsewhere, what would you recommend
I really hope you see this, I've wanted to ask you this for a long time. Love your work, thank you for everything you've done for myself and the community
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I'm sort of in a unique position with regards to my Game in marriage. Due to my talents and my career I've always enjoyed a high degree of social proof and preselection well into my marriage. That combined with my staying in shape and my covertly requiring Mrs. T to stay in good shape also helps.
I only use passive forms of dread and most times even I'm not aware I'm using it. It's a natural extension of my personality and the social company I keep.
I have sex with my wife as often as I want, but when you get into this kind of intersexual dynamic, it becomes less of a concern for me. I don't focus on how many times I'me getting laid in a week like most married guys. I don't have quotas for my wife, in fact I'd rather have 2-3 really intense sex sessions with her than 7-8 lackluster duty sex sessions. Guys who keep quotas defeat any passive dread that would organically inspire their wives to fuck them more freely.
Gatmanz 8y ago
Is the character (bad guy) in 'L.A Confidential' based on you?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I adopted Rollo Tomassi from LA Confidential as my monicker because it was appropriate for a guy who was getting away with his crimes (telling Red Pill truths).
Zombie_GiveMeBrain 8y ago
Hi Rollo I'm currently writing a college senior research essay on marriage laws in the united states. Part of the research includes interviewing 2 people relevant to the topic. I was wondering if in the near future you were willing to answer some questions I'd have prepared? Cheers and thanks for your contribution to TRP
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Oh for sure, follow me on Twitter and hit me up. I'll DM you.
KIZAN 8y ago
I've havent actually read the book (planning to) but the price is really good. Also, Is there an online version?
fingerthemoon 8y ago
I just bought the Kindle version and it comes with the audible for only $1.99. About $11 total, cheaper than just the Audible with was $17.99 (iirc). They have a cool sync as well.
We'll worth it and exactly what I've been looking for, something to listen to in the car before a date to help me maintain my frame.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes, Kindle and on Audible too: http://www.audible.com/pd/Self-Development/The-Rational-Male-Audiobook/B01E61CYCA/ref=a_search_c4_1_1_srTtl?qid=1477594719&sr=1-1
FillingInTheSkanks 8y ago
Can you talk about the pendulum swing of the Misandrist movement. Has it reached the tip top and stalled? Tell me I'm in not a bubble, the pushback seems real - it will take some time, but it seems feminism is on its way out.
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Younger women have no interest in feminism. It is about as relevant to them as fire and brimstone medieval religion is to modern people. However there will always be a group of ugly women who cling to feminism and make a lot of noise. These psychologically frail people will never have any real power so they will just yell from the sidelines.
The biggest problem with feminism now is the media. The left wing media use articles about wimmin not being "equal" to trigger an emotional reaction in women. This sells their product. No-one truly believes in rape culture except ugly wimmin and they subconsciously obssess about rape because no man is attracted to them and no man wants to "ravage" them. Feminism is already dead, it is only the hideous relics which remain.
SpaceTimeinFlux 8y ago
Feminism and the whole socjus machine has begun to bite the hand that feeds, turning on their own and engaging in the same behavior they decry. Average Americans are fed up with it and the hammer will come down sooner than later.
patrice_plz_come_bac 8y ago
Remember that time ESA Rosetta scientist Dr Matt Taylor got attacked for his shirt? That is when te pendulum stopped moving.
patrice_plz_come_bac 8y ago
Remember that time ESA Rosetta scientist Dr Matt Taylor got attacked for his shirt? That is when te pendulum stopped moving.
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That thing where they went after Amy Schumer was golden. No one batted an eye when gays in florida were thrown under the bus, but that chubby-middle aged comic hack is in the same demographic as most cat lady SJW...
Shit's hitting home
exit_sandman 8y ago
That's the reason why Trump - who, let's be honest, isn't exactly presidential (to put it mildly) - has won the Republican primaries.
el_Technico 8y ago
Trump is a Rockafeller stooge who won the primaries so that Hillary, his dear friend would have an easy opponent and become president.
Always follow the money. Look at how Trump got his and you'll have your answer.
thisishowibowl 8y ago
True but these movements are Astro turfed. I wouldn't doubt that the powers that be fund these left wing nutters. ( supposedly the CIA and the Rothchilds both funded feminism ) It may be a lot longer before this shit is gone. Feminism has been here since the 60s, and full of regressive and kooks since the 70-80s. I hope it's dying with resurgence is masculinity but it could be a top down propaganda led movement for awhile. They already run the public schools. Right now kids are being indoctrinated into this shit and they are young.
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The first step is the Trump election. The reaction to the biased polls is a huge anti main stream media and anti establishment movement. This will also set the supreme court for decades. If Trump fails to get elected you will never see a title IX repeal. If Trump is elected then the media will continue to be viewed with heavy suspicion and the largest force behind the anti male movement will be muted.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the reason the victim mentality has power is because the media reflects it. If the media is distrusted then it is a huge blow to the power structure which allowed victim mentality to surge.
Of course next the educational system would need an over haul but that's a much longer process.
Soarinc 8y ago
Highly agreed -- we are living in an age where stuff can be uploaded to youtube and shared. All the horrible side effects of feminism now easily accumulate and feed the negative feedback loop! Huzzah!
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ex_addict_bro 8y ago
EDiT EDIT EDIT: I just managed to solve this riddle myself, answer at the end. I'd love to hear your opinion mr T if you like.
I n-closed a petite 23-yo Asian girl at the gym a few weeks ago, she's from Taiwan and she is studying in my town. I'm 37.
me: is that your boyfriend or your bodyguard?
her: boyfriend! I'm [xxx] by the way.
me: hey. good, because I'm afraid of bodyguards. so, would your boyfriend mind if I take you out for coffee this evening?
her, smiling: of course he would!
me: but you don't know that for sure! go ask him
and I go to another part of the gym.
She came back, looked very interested. She fucking went and asked the boyfriend if he minds that. Wow. But then, then she asked me if I mind her boyfriend coming out with us - I said "no problem" - and she gave me her phone no. She then exercised a bit nearby, then came again to me to say "bye" and we had a short chat. She looked like DTF, proliferative phase for the win. I'm white, muscilar and I probably weight 2-3 times as much as her. Her Asian dude, shit, maybe he's got more IQ, but he looked a bit feminine.
I texted her 2 times - 1st time she was busy, 2nd time she did not reply for few days... then I got a reply from her today, something about her studying a lot recently and that she wants to meet for a lunch next week, with her bf.
Basically I don't do food dates AND her bf is going to be there. But, she is thousands of miles from her home, she is very small and she may be an easy target for a thief or a robber or a rapist. And, she doesn't know anything about me.
So basically I wonder if I should rather go there for a lunch date (and build some rapport, not sure how would I handle her bf or if I even should handle him) -- or text her my proposition instead.
How would you proceed? Or, should I just n-close another Asian girl there?
I texted her that... I don't want to go out with her boyfriend, that I find her somehow interesting and this doesn't mean that I want to do her in the backseat of my car when I see her, but let's meet for a coffee and see how'd we go from there. That I understand she's alone thousands of miles from her country and that she may be afraid, and I understand that she knows shit about me and I may be a polar bear hunter or a thug or an anaesthesiologist and that's why I propose she chooses the venue she feels safe in (and I still propose a club near the place she probably lives and give information I'm available tommorow). Give it some thought girl and let me know when you're ready for your intercontinental adventure.
Whew. Inspired by Mark Manson. A bit gay, but on the other hand, I think that's the best way to reach her and not look like a man who wants to kidnap her for a ransom.
uhhthelonious 8y ago
Any advice on how to avoid triggering "buyer's remorse"? For example: a woman regretting sexual/emotional interaction after the fact; saying she "should've have never gotten invloved", etc. once she sees you are not going to commit to her...
For the record, I have a tendency to act more serious with women than I intend to because I like to take them on lengthy, couple-like dates; even though they're just plates.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Your over-investment in these women is likely the source of their buyer's remorse. You need to learn the concept of bread crumbs and allowing a woman to want to invest in you.
https://therationalmale.com/2012/02/22/breadcrumbs/
Chiptehubah 8y ago
This is what I needed.
Ive had it all so far but I have loose lips. Breadcrumbs. Ive got to remind myself that Im leading them on and not trying to be their friend.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2013/11/06/anger-management/
nathanbrisk 8y ago
Do you have any plans of ditching the pseudonym?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
No, but I will likely be a bit more public than I have been when the 3rd book drops.
blackhawks93 8y ago
What's the third book about?
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AlligatorNicoli 8y ago
Rollo, have you ever had a psychedelic experience? There's emergent neuroscience research in the last decade demonstrating the efficacy of substances like psilocybin (found in magic mushrooms) and LSD ("acid") to facilitate profound change in an individual's personality (i.e. increased openness, novelty-seeking). Looking back I realize that my unplugging was concurrent with when I first began using psychedelics, 2-3 years ago, after stumbling onto The Rationale Male. Could psychedelics be a useful tool in helping other men unplug (especially the hard-cases)?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes. When I was 19-20 I dropped acid and I've done mushrooms too. I get that LSD and ayahusca are reality "widening" experiences, and I understand they can be useful, but I can't really endorse using drugs now.
I was in no way unplugged when I did them in my youth, but I don't doubt the possible aid they might be for some guys. That said, and this is coming from a veteran of the liquor industry, I think men need to learn to Game and come to the Red Pill without the use of alcohol or drugs. Too many guys use booze as a buffer against rejection, or they're only 'on' when they get a buzz on.
wtfawdNoWeddingShoes 8y ago
I can second your personal experience. I spent a few years doing a lot of drugs (MDMA and LSD primarily) and some of the experiences/insights they left me with made it very clear that things were not as they should be. I've scaled way back now, but the realizations and insights I had have not changed. I ended a LTR that was going to fail eventually and focused on myself.
The effect psychadelic experiences have on users have a lot to do with where they are in their lives, they types of literature they're consuming, and what their personal philosophy is at the time, imo. I was deep into neuroscience and evolutionary psychology/biology and those things combined led me to TRP and I feel it all tied together so perfectly that I couldn't find a single fault in it. I have since benefitted greatly from internalizing many RP truths and seeing the world as it is, and understanding core concepts such as AWALT and the fact that TRP isn't about PUA or Game, it's about giving men the tools they need to be real men, and real men don't need PUA or game (for the most part) because they radiate power, authority, and decisiveness.
Add onto that attractiveness and confidence, and you can have all the pussy you want... if you want it. It's all a fucking game, and the rules are so fucked, and there are so many different rule-sets, TRP gets rid of all the superfluous rulesets that are purely societal constructs and focuses on the evolutionary biology/psychology aspects that we all operate on at our most primal levels.
iamz3ro 8y ago
I'm a MASSIVE fan of LSD. I usually take it when I go clubbing. I notice that I get a lot more primal, more "in the moment" and more self accepting, which fuels my interactions with women. I quite often get approached by girls when dancing and needless to say my game become a lot smoother. And that's not even addressing the spiritual side of the drug.
teamjkforawhile 8y ago
No question, but thank you for what you do. Your book brought so much clarity to me when I was going through the usual "but I did everything right" mindset. Thank you. You've helped me become a much happier person with a much better life.
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D0ngl3 8y ago
Dear Rollo (or anyone knowledgeable),
I fucked up. This woman pulled my number. Caught me off guard. We had some weird text exchanges. She admitted to a friend of hers that she's horny and wants to fuck me. I have no game. The window is closing, if not closed already. I need quick & dirty pointers so I can make her a plate.
There's an overwhelming amount of reading to do. I don't need theory -- I need a guide
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Hesitate and thou art lost.
Act as if you have a 10" cock.
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Errr... Just fuck her? Think of how to plate later.
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Invite her to your place to "hangout". If she asks what you will do, say netflix and chill or smoke weed (if she is that kind of girl) or whatever really. When she gets there, physically escalate. Mood is right? Take her by the hand and lead her to the bedroom. Rest is... Well. Easy
xRedStaRx 8y ago
I barely read your blog. Reading your responses here, I disagree on some general concepts.
You have exemplified feminism as the core structure behind TRP, while it is merely a symptom of globalization and social media. There is nothing really to fix that was not always broken beforehand, only now, we see it for the much more obvious, and powerful, form. To put it into context briefly, you do not see Chad and Tyrone crying about TRP, hypergamy, marriage laws, feminism, and what have you. They were born with the early realization that TRP exists witnessed first-hand, and not only that, but as the primary endorser of it. They knew early on that they were born rich, winners, blessed, and it was a naturally unspoken invisible social contract to spread such taboo segregation. It is akin to poor people in Africa waking up to the inside documentary lives of Billionaires in the US. Throughout history, it has always been the case, and their puny attempts to imitate their persona in hopes of tasting what it feels like to be at the top, if only for a moment, speaks volume about nature's insurmountable, and cycnical, progression of life, and going farther than sexual competiton. Much farther.
The real TRP that we used to all know and love, back in the 2008 days, was nothing more than reference manual, a constructed religion, for everyone to behold, but giving little to practice. Because that was, and still is, the main pillar behind the real RP philosophy, for the great majority stumbling onto this, you are fucked.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
From your response, not a question, I can tell you haven't read nearly enough of my work to form any valid opinion of it. I have never 'exemplified' feminism as any core structure (whatever that means to you) behind TRP. In fact I make great efforts to separate Feminism from The Feminine Imperative in my writing. The FI existed long before our present day emphasis on globalization.
And what you believe are natural born archetypes (Alphas) are in fact learned roles that these types of men stepped into: https://therationalmale.com/2012/06/29/the-origin-of-alpha/
xRedStaRx 8y ago
I tried going over your FI term here https://therationalmale.com/category/the-feminine-imperative/ but seems like too much to read. So I won't go over them unless you could provide a more brief summary.
"Learned Alpha" is an oxymoron, no matter how much you attempt to expand on it. If you had the privilege of growing up alongside one of the naturals, you'd find that little was learned, and most was intuitive. Does that make a lesser man stuck to his vanilla goods for his baseline SMV? No, but that leaves little room for improvement. Again, which leads me back to my original thesis. There is nothing fixable, little to improve, and everything to lament. I have only used the concept of Alpha in the sexual market because that seems to be the (or one of) main themes of the current version of TRP. It extends way beyond that. I don't mean to sound deterministic, my point is that TRP is merely a collective science to expand our horizons to the intricacies of the world. It is by no means a step-by-step guide for achieving some form of success, because as I mentioned previously, if you had to takeaway one message from all of TRP objective and anecdotal findings, it is this:
You are fucked.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
/u/xRedStaRx said (tl;dr) "I have no idea what you said, but you're wrong."
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bone80 8y ago
So a bartender I've been gaming just saw me out with another hb9 plate. Will this enhance my status or make her shut down? She texted me saying wow.. And i replied saying "i assumed we were both talking to other ppl, we're both attractive so of course." EDIT: Clapped dem cheekz
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
A lot of guys choke in a situation like this thinking that they overdid things with social proof or preselection. This is a Beta self-test actually. The Beta mind will think 'oh well, shit, I guess she's gonna blow me off now because I'm a proven commodity of attraction for girls who're higher SMV that she is".
It's important that you disabuse yourself of that concept. It's part of your Blue Pill conditioning to think that women will only ever consider themselves out of any one man's league. Not so. Women want to be with guys that other men want to be and other women want to fuck.
teeelo 8y ago
Shitpost here-
I love your objective analysis and approach Rollo. You're a man that has earned our attention.
bone80 8y ago
Thanks Rollo, I've come a really long way in the past 2 years. I knew right away that having another HB9 on my arm would increase my SMV in her eyes. Now its just a waiting game to see the fallout.
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SuperduperCooper23 8y ago
Sexual market value. Try a quick google next time.
p3n1x 8y ago
Go get another 9, hopefully you aren't actually "waiting" on the bartender.
cesarfd 8y ago
She just said wow? Shit test her. - Yeah, it's as if this shirt was made to fit me. or some joke like this.
bone80 8y ago
It was more of a "wow... You're really out with another girl", regardless of what she meant I think I handled it well. "I assumed we were both talking to other people" = shows abundance and Amused mastery. Also I literally walked past her at the bar which shows IDGAF lol
fingerthemoon 8y ago
Walking past her without saying hi can be interpreted that you actually do care, so much that it made you too uncomfortable to say hello.
rigbed 8y ago
Yeah we know, but you have to blow that stuff off with sarcasm
lqtys 8y ago
If she only texted "wow..." and nothing more, then your blue pill beliefs are colouring what you think she said. In a "wow..." there is not more meaning to extract that what you want to believe it has.
Big_Daddy_PDX 8y ago
Not really if what you posted was the text you sent her. If you had frame you wouldn't have DEER'd or you could have replied w/ logistics to see her.
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ItsHillarysTurn 8y ago
First off, excuse the username. This is my troll account. I don't want to comment on my main account.
If she just said "wow..." and nothing else, then you can assume she meant many things. The obvious assumption is, of course, that she meant "wow... how could you do that to me, just be with another girl like that?"
This assumption is just your male hamster running wild. The accurate way to respond would have been (of course hind sight is 20/20) with "Yeah, wow, she was a hot one wasn't she?"
This statement makes it obvious that she (bartender) is not exclusive, and also suggests that she is not as attractive as other girls you pull thereby raising your overall SMV. It also completely trivializes any objections she may have and shows that not even for a second did you consider that the two of you might be exclusive.
By saying what you said, you essentially gave weight to her potential claims that you did something wrong, by defending yourself.
Satou4 8y ago
My instinct was to respond with something about how hot the girl was. Great, maybe I'm improving.
bone80 8y ago
Wow, never thought of it that way. Turns out shes just mad now cuz I walked past her without acknowledging her, told me to make it up to her with which I replied "see you at 9pm then" to.
p3n1x 8y ago
Careful of her meta-frame. This request is from a position of "i'm the leader, you owe me"... You don't owe her shit. "Making it up to her" is a slow blade that cuts deep over time. She should be "making it up to you" for throwing attitude over childish drama... Keep your Frame!
Your_Coke_Dealer 8y ago
I just interpret "make it up to her" as "hey let's fuck". Doesn't matter how some brief meta-frame comment comes off; you're not gonna be seen as a beta when giving her a good dicking
p3n1x 8y ago
All meta frame comments matter. Its their long game and they bank on men being "short term" mentally about it. There is a difference between her desiring his dick, and her controlling when sex happens.
"Make it up to me later" is on her terms. It is the slow progression of "anytime you do something I don't like or disagree with, you will perform an action for me."
Don't be blinded because the action is sex. Its like a heroin addict claiming they are in the leadership role with their drug dealer.
You absolutely can be seen this way. Your logic makes it sound like Beta's can't be good in bed. You can throw orgasms around like $1's at a strip club, and still be seen as beta.
HeatseekingLogicBomb 8y ago
Savage replies p3n1x. Totally on point.
iamz3ro 8y ago
Exactly, don't ever justify yourself to women.
AnEndlessDream 8y ago
Rollo, what direction do you want to see TRP take these next few years? What do you think should be the ultimate goal within the community? Thank you.
PantsonFire1234 8y ago
The ultimate goal should be truth, success and being virtuous. This brings humans in a state of being content.
Read up on Spartan society, which was very much the example Rome cherry picked and many other civilizations since then. Including our own. They knew the natural laws.
gisquestions 8y ago
Haha and he never responded lol.
GrimIsTheWay 8y ago
Rollo, best way to keep frame and deal with dread game when it is reversed? (The girl has many options and often hangs out with guy friends). Thanks!
SuperduperCooper23 8y ago
The answer is "who cares?". Find a girl that wants you. Keep the other girl as a plate if you want.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Niko and I dedicated an entire Red Pill Monthly podcast episode to Frame last month:
https://therationalmale.com/2016/08/15/the-red-pill-monthly-frame/
If you're concerned about instilling dread in a girl (an extension of frame) like the one you define it's important to really assess what she's really all about first. If she's hanging out with guy-friends to the exception of your own company, it may simply be better to only keep her as a secondary plate you're spinning.
Remember, the Medium is the Message, so what are her behaviors indicative of in this case? Girls who are into you wont confuse you, so if her actions are that she seeks out the company of a lot of guys (to "hang out") that's telling you her hindbrain wants to keep all options on the table with regard to Hypergamy.
So, going to the efforts of instilling dread in her may not be worth your time. However, just by your demoting her to a secondary option you can determine her real interest level. Keep in mind that you should always demonstrate, never explicate, with women. If her IL was never at a stage where your attentions are more valuable than her guy-friends you'll confirm this by performing a takeaway of your attention. If her IL is still significant for you she'll tell you it's bugging her.
https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/06/the-medium-is-the-message/
https://therationalmale.com/2011/11/30/intergender-friendship/
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iamz3ro 8y ago
My understanding of this is this: You should never be in a situation where you "worry" about this. Just run your normal dread game and if her IL is too low then just let her go. You "worrying" about running dread game on a girl signifies that you're raising her up higher than you should.
Obsidian743 8y ago
Read the blog about intergender friendships.
What do you say about women who claim to simply get along better with men?
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GrabHerByThePEPE 8y ago
Any plans to have these podcasts on iTunes? Thanks!
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TRPInvoker 8y ago
Perhaps this is obvious, but the point that I'm weak on is how to respond when she tells you something is bugging her. How would you respond if she complains that you're not spending enough time with her?
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mugsaucecity 8y ago
Would anyone mind to explain dread game to me?
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casper41 8y ago
What is your stance on facial hair and grooming? Many women claim a beard is an automatic 'no' for them.
teeelo 8y ago
Many Women demand a good beard too.
tallwheel 8y ago
Those same women will get wet for good looking guys with stubble. Don't do a lumberjack beard unless you're sure you can own it. You really can't go wrong with well-groomed stubble these days.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Heheh, well, consider this from an evolutionary perspective – growing a beard is something a man can do that a woman cannot.
In our feminine-primary world a woman's "automatic 'no'" should speak volumes about how we prioritize the importance of not just our personal grooming, but everything else. From an evo/bio standpoint facial hair is a physical cue of testosterone and one that also implies male maturity (you've got to be a 'man' to grow a beard). Thus, the mental impression is one of unique maleness and maturity.
It's fascinating that a full beard is an automatic no for women, yet studies indicate that a guy with stubble or a 5 o'clock shadow is "sexy". Go figure.
Be that what it is, a man wearing a beard has a couple of liabilities attached. The first is that a beard signifies male maturity, but that comes at a cost of cultivating a youthful appearance. I think if a guy is going to grow a beard he really needs to own that look and not dress in a way that makes his perception incongruous with what that beard signifies.
Second, feminists and manginas hate beards because it's a visual representation of conventional masculinity. I remember reading article after article by feminists and masculinity-confused men a few years back decrying how 'fake' men were for wearing a beard. The ridicule made these hipster men out to be gay lumberjacks, but what's telling was just how much vitriol they had for men's beards. Not the men themselves, but what impression a beard gave them about the 'type of guy' who proudly grows one.
Beards are offensive to this set because they represent an old school masculine appeal which they believe is sexist or oppressive. With that in mind, by all means grow a beard. I don't have a beard myself, but when I lived in Orlando I started wearing a chin strap beard. The look was popular with the Puerto Ricans I used to have cut my hair and I liked it so, what the hell right?
I still have a chin strap but I can't believe how much grief I get for it after moving back to Nevada. But IDGAF.
whatsthisgarg 8y ago
I'm in a particular sub-culture where beard and mustache styles vary greatly, but are always studly. My wife isn't really identified with this sub-culture.
She likes the skin, so every winter when I grow it out, she says eww, that's what you're doing? Then every summer when it gets warm I ask her if I should shave it off, she says no. Women.
lqtys 8y ago
I don't know in the USA, but in Europe, or at least, in Spain, beards are a fashion trend since a year ago or two. Everybody has now a beard.
ManowaR1488 8y ago
http://i.imgur.com/UEchCY5.jpg
LasherDeviance 8y ago
When is the next edition of the Rational Male going to be released?
I buy copies of it as gifts for every guy I know having problems, as it is the seminal guide to Red Pill introduction that is palatable for blue pill scrubs.
I have both the burnt sienna edition and the green edition. Waiting for the next one!
Edit: I also have a 14 year-old boy that I'm trying to unplug, because despite being the lead on his basketball team and a jock, he is a complete lame, has no friends except other lames and is completely unpopular.
I tell him that you can't talk sports with girls because they don't care. His game is weak as fuck and he constantly gets dissed regardless of the fact that he's the school team superstar.
I need help on this one.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Book three is scheduled for a late November to mid December release.
Just in time for Christmas!
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Soarinc 8y ago
You've helped a countless number of guys and you've done more good to help your mankind than the average doctor or honest politician. That said -- do you ever feel obligated to continue being helpful or do you have some type of mental barriers that you can easily close and simply free up all that time and switch it to a more typical hobby that is equally time consuming such as building sterling engines or making an underground bunker?
I've always been fearful of commitment to being a good person because I've been there, done that, and you feel so bad about disappointing people that think so highly of you.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Oh Lord, I probably dedicate too much time to my career and business endeavors these days. I wish I had more time for hobbies between writing TRM and trying to stay current with my work projects.
I definitely have mental barriers though. Most of them revolve around something selfishly creative for me. I do my best thinking when I'm wrapped up in some art project I'm doing. That and when I take my sled out and get to the top of some mountain.
I write what I do because I think it's necessary. I don't make a living from writing, I have other talents that keep me solvent, but that's the best part because I never feel a need to write 'for' anyone. Rather, I write what I think needs to be discussed and contemplated, what other guys probably already know, but can't really articulate.
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The Rational Male – Preventive Medicine when will this be on Audible?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Almost done actually. Sam Botta is finishing the reading this month. I don't want to coincide that release with my 3rd book's so it'll likely be within the next month and a half
_PowerBull 8y ago
How did you or what made you swallow your red pill?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Three things. The first was reading Dr. Warren Farrell's book "Why Men Are The Way They Are". I read this in the early 90s when there was no Red Pill or manosphere and it was a wilderness of fempowerment coming from all sides.
This book opened my eyes to a lot of the mechanics of intersexual relations. It's kind of a shame now, because Farrell is really a very Blue Pill egalitarian in the same vein as MRAs, but at the time it awoke me to what I was involved in.
Second was the experience I had with my BPD girlfriend and learning just how persona-altering it was once I was free of her.
Third was my education in behavioral psychology and connecting a lot of dots with regard to how intersexual relations we're really a calculated series of operant conditioning techniques that women instinctually used with men.
Nergaal 8y ago
Rollo, BR conditions men to lifegoals that are nothing more than Disney dreams, but not achievable IRL. If the conditioning is strong, TRP sometimes makes some men bitter and unmotivated to anything, to the point that nothing really seems to matter, since nothing that TRP promises is anywhere as endorphin-inducing as those surreal BP dreams, not even MGTOW.
What have you found to help move on and become again self-motivated, productive men?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Honestly I think just becoming Red Pill aware ought to be a motivator in and of itself. Think about the opportunities that are now open to you as a result of understanding the code in the Matrix. Think of what an incredible advantage this represents to you that other men lack an awareness of and are contented in their Blue Pill doldrums.
Nergaal 8y ago
Hey Rollo, thanks for taking time to answer. One thing that BP does, accidentally, is condition people to go over hard times with Disney-esque hopes - "I'll get over this cause at some point in the near future all my virtues will be rewarded with a nice wife, happy life, and respect for all my efforts/sacrifices". The problem with RP is when you you find yourself again in those deep holes, nothing is as "promising" as those BP dreams. How do you get yourself to "dream" again but a RP version so you fight through the shit that life offers?
And a quick question: "How would you convince Cypher that the red pill was still the better choice?" Cypher is the Matrix guy that regrets not choosing the blue pill.
scarletspider3 8y ago
Really appreciate your work Rollo. You probably saved untold numbers of guys from all kinds of bull-shit. Just wondering if we can get any hints on the theme of your next book?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Well, it's tentatively titled The Rational Male – The Red Pill, though I may change this.
Almost a full third of the book is dedicated to Red Pill parenting, but I'm focusing on observations and applications for Red Pill aware men (or making them more aware as the case may be). I think the term "The Red Pill" is becoming bastardized to serve personal agendas of ideologies who've appropriated it because it has some gravity to it. As such, my intent is to provide a clearer overview of how TRP came about and what it really represents to men socially and personally.
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
Hey Rollo, thanks for stopping by. What's your opinion of the involvement of sexual politics/blue pill conditioning in this presidential race. Are we experiencing a large scale representation of the feminine imperative/ war on men?
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ToSeeAndToHear 8y ago
To be fair the main reason for "teach all the girls" is that economies fare better when all their population is educated/productive. It's been discussed before.
The secondary effect is more feminism, but most countries that don't educate women are not in danger of going full SJW any time soon.
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ToSeeAndToHear 8y ago
Because being a housewife has been hard work since modern appliances... right.
Women are unhappier because men are feminized, and because real work is harder than the bullshit work they evolved for - gathering roots and berries while chatting with other women was always easier than hunting.
Doesn't change the fact that educating your whole populace gets you out of poverty faster.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I made the prediction last year that this election would be the first to be decided based on the Red Pill concepts that the 'sphere has been hashing out for 14+ years. I was not disappointed.
As I mentioned above, a Hillary presidency will be the most polarizing force in gender relations that western society has ever known.
VoyPerdiendo1 8y ago
So I assume a Hillary presidency will be something that we should welcome.
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Scymnus 8y ago
Let me clarify something for the morons who hit the downvote-button instead of asking why:
Western society is going down the drain and there's probably not a lot we can do about it. Women won't easily go back to marriage 1.0 now that they've gotten a sweet taste of the cheap dopamine release casual sex gives you. We all know that this can't last because it makes men unhappy and angry. Unfortunately it has to get a lot worse before it gets better, and Hillary is definitely a step in the right direction if you want this process to speed up.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Unfortunately, that direction leads very, very quickly to WWIII.
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SetConsumes 8y ago
We can do a lot about it, but it would require men coming together and taking control of society once more.
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There is much opportunity in chaos for those aware of the patterns created by universal fuckery.
matthew8367 8y ago
The ability to create order from chaos is a skill every man should know.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
There's always going to be a balance in a large format forum like this to filter the blatant trolling and nonsense from what has actual, teachable value for a guy seeking Red Pill answers. I would not run TRP as I do my own comment threads where everything is unmoderated in the interests of distilling the strength of ideas and countervailing arguments.
I think this is very important, but in a forum of this size you'll just end up playing whack a mole with trolls who have no higher function than to prattle about Blue Pill ego-investments because the Red Pill represents an iconoclastic challenge to their very personalities. Playing whack a mole will only lead to an endless string of verifying proof of concept posts and links for trolls who don't really care about it.
So in the interests of reaching out to the newly unplugged it would serve TRP better to have more involved moderation, but with perhaps a new sub forum that accommodates strictly the backing informational studies and statistics that reinforce Red Pill concepts. As TRM has expanded over the years I'm constantly having to backtrack through what I feel are settled concepts that BP critics think are just my unsubstantiated ideas when in fact they are areas I covered extensively in the past and cited many sources to back them up. Consequently, these BP trolls are always asking to have their hands held to find the links because they're too intellectually lazy to do it themselves.
Ou-tis 8y ago
Hi Rollo, since I think your book is a fundamental in awareness, is it possible to translate in other languages?How can I contact you to discuss the thing?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Leave me an email addressHit me up on Twitter, I'll DM you.
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Ascended_One 8y ago
Purple-pill time! TRP principes work because they target the older parts of our brain (evolutionary speaking). The reactive parts. We as humans are however able to override our impulses thanks to our frontal cortex and self-awareness.
You say that TRP principes (dread game, preselection...) apply to all women (AWALT), but you also propose to always drop plates that do not yield results and look for more rewarding prospects.
Isn't it possible that the plates we drop like this were actually unicorns that the depressing parts of TRP doesn't apply to? Isn't it possible that NAWALT, but we never give women the chance to prove it?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
No. https://therationalmale.com/2012/08/14/flushing-the-nest/
Ascended_One 8y ago
Thanks for the reply! Are you sure you've replied with the correct article? I fail to see how it answers the question :S
To clarify something: I feel the red pill truths to be true, I just find it hard to internalize them unless I can defend them against objections like these.
StoicCrane 8y ago
In the afterward of TRM volume one you mentioned that there are bloggers who use game in a Christianized context that you genuinely promote. In a sense isn't this contradiction sinse game and sexual strategy are amoralistic in nature? Many TRP users are encouraged to abandon religious constraints due in part to the fact that a majority of them have become conduits for feminine sexual plurism, especially Christianity. Due to the underlying system feminist corruption of religion shouldn't the application of TRP under a religious context be discouraged?
gjs628 8y ago
Biblically speaking, Christian men are meant to be the head of the household and the very pillars holding up the marriage. The man is stoic, a strong and protective provider and consequently knows what's best through logic and experience. Women are meant to be cherished for their femininity because of their unwavering devotion to their husband. They should support him, submit to him, and never question him. In an ideal relationship, no issues will occur because he will always be fair and she will always be understanding and grateful for what her husband provides. This is the idealised way in which people "should" live.
The reality is that by not living like this, we have men feeling insecure because they've fucked one girl and their girlfriends or wives have fucked 40 guys. Cheating is rife, respect is nowhere to be found, and people only live for themselves and their chance to throw one another under the bus at the first opportunity. Women are taking their husbands to the cleaners by the millions with divorce rape.
Living the way the Bible says regarding many aspects of relationships is good for everyone because it keeps all negativity out, by having you both committing as virgins and being perfect partners forever. It's unfortunate that human nature will never allow this to always happen. Since these morals are no longer enforced, women are free to whore around all they like. Men back then knew what women were like and the Bible was there to create stable partnerships.
I do get that the Bible is written by man and can be vastly contradictory at times, and I wouldn't call myself a Bible-basher, but my Mrs is heavily into Christianity and she is as faithful and loving as they come. No doubt though, things might be different if I wasn't also the man of the household. No amount of religion can keep a bored and repulsed woman together when her man acts like a Pussy.
Then there's all the other stuff: God is perfect and made man perfectly in His image, and being gay is a mortal sin, yet God created people who were born gay and is now condemning them for something that isn't their fault? Things like that I don't quite understand. I think that if there's a God, he's like a collector who keeps Ant colonies: fun to watch, but largely disinterested in each individual ant's life. They can pray all they want, doesn't necessarily mean that God will smite a rival colony He spent so long building just because one Ant doesn't like his rivals.
Anyway, enough about religion, nobody really knows where we go when we die so any claim of certainty needs to be accompanied by "How do you know this if you've never died yourself?"
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I get this a lot. How can you endorse the promiscuous PUA lifestyle to Christian men. That's not my intent. I think it's vitally important that religious men are made to be Red Pill aware, almost more important than secular guys since so much of their future life's success is at stake if they're inured by what's become a religion by, for and about women.
It's never been in the scope of TRM to decide what religion or not a guy ought to be, but I don't think Red Pill awareness ought to be incumbent upon a belief set. I think Christian men can utilize everything TRP has to offer within the context of how they apply it according to their beliefs. Maybe you're not spinning plates, but it's important for men to have a solid grasp of the nature of the women in their church. Hypergamy doesn't care about religion.
Mecha75 8y ago
As a red pill aware christian man, let me point out that many of the biblical hero's portrayed many alpha traits as good things and portrayed many of the men with beta traits in a poor light. Not to mention, the bible actually tells men to be the Alpha in their marriages and it rebukes them for being betas. It is sad that these alpha traits are presented to us men in a very feminized way in modern western Christianity.
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mehdreamer 8y ago
Indeed. I can speak of the moslim world : These pure vigin moslim girls with "modest" clothing are also driven by hypergamy. You'll hear these girls say they're looking for a pious, god fearing simple good husband... but they omit to say good-loooking-preferably-rich, pious, god fearing simple good husband.
Same goes for these vegan, spiritual, eco-friendly, altenative western girls. They want a guy like them, but he must be also good looking with good finances.
These ideologies are just a thin layer that goes on top of the core drive : hypergamy.
exit_sandman 8y ago
Probably the most fundamental example for AWALT.
SetConsumes 8y ago
I think to women it's a given that the guy must be good looking and preferably rich/high status. So they don't even mention it, 'cause like duh'.
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If men actually read their religious books (Bible for my case), and interpret it on their own (with proper research) instead of having a pastor/priest/church shove their versions down their throats, RP is compatible with religion. Hek, being aware/having an RP moment of how twisted Christianity has become due to wordly values years ago made me much more receptive to accepting RP. If even something like Christianity, which has a study guide and basia out in the open called the Bible, could be twisted, why couldn't other values/ideas be?...
Mecha75 8y ago
I completely agree. I am a recently Red Pill aware married Christian man and it is remarkable at how the books of the bible are actually very pro Red Pill. Not the PUA part of it, but the being the Alpha. The story of Joseph is a perfect biblical example of the Red Pill. You have a man who was sold into slavery. He worked on himself (the original MGTOW?) and improved his station. Even though he was a slave, his glaringly obvious beta Master relied on him to manage his household and his finances. The hypergamous wife (who probably monkey branched her way to her husband) needed Joseph. Joseph was a clear alpha most of his life. Also, in the New Testament, we are exhorted to be the Alpha's for our families. Beta's examples in the bible are actually presented to discourage those behaviors. The case of Nabal and David (David ended up with Nabal's wife Abigail. and no one can argue that David was anything but an Alpha). Another example of discouraging beta behavior was that of King Saul.
Dont get me wrong, christianity is full of nothing but betaized men and for some reason not enough emphasis is placed on the Alpha traits of biblical heros. Especially when it comes to "marriage seminars and retreats." those are more full feminized propaganda to further beta the men.
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Christianity is filled with Betas because our message has been blue pilled. They focus on Gods love but IGNORE His justice. Our message has become feel good feminized crap. Most churches do not even talk about repentance for sins...
Mecha75 8y ago
I do believe that is what I said. But I do like the way you said it better.
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Its sad bro. Ive been looking for a good church for a while... I have no luck.
thisishowibowl 8y ago
Seems to me that anyone encouraging you one way or another about religion should be ignored. RP is praxeology, not philosophy . I
78Shaun78 8y ago
So how did you get into snowmobile? Was it just a geographical thing, like,"Hey I live by snow so why not?" Or was it something you grew up doing?
Dio_Brando_Joestar 8y ago
What is the ultimate best way to improve Game when it comes to talking to chicks ?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Practice.
People always consider me the go-to guy for theory and understanding what's under the hood with regard to why certain Game techniques and concepts work, but I can't stress enough the necessity of getting out in the field and putting it into trial and error experimentation.
You have to go out and get punched in the face, go back home, recalibrate and practice again. Most guys believe that Game is all about numbers and just spamming approaches night after night, but I believe Game is more about persistence.
Go out and do one approach a week for a year. You'll have done 52 approaches in that time, but 52 approaches is more than most men will do in their entire lives. Let that sink in. You don't go to the gym once a week and pound out set after set and expect to gain anything. Persistence is what pays off, so you go to the gym 4-5 days a week and focus on particular areas and you make a habit of it.
justwalkingthrough12 8y ago
What are some good places to practice? Day game or bars/clubs?
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TomFoo 8y ago
Rollo, speaking of going to the gym, how does physical fitness (sometimes called getting "swole" here on TRP) factor into Gaming? Is it an important part of male SMV, perhaps the ultimate one?
haxurmind 8y ago
Not Rollo but yes it is.
I'm not swole; but I've noticed a difference in behavior towards me from people in general as I first shaved a lot of fat and then later started gaining more muscle.
I'm yet to wear short sleeved shirts again this year since further improving my physique so I'll be keeping this post in mind over the summer months (Australia).
It is important however because it enhances you masculinity and thus your attractiveness to women (opposites attract). I wouldn't consider it the ultimate part of your SMV, but it does help (lift and eat plenty of protein) as part of your SMV under the Looks, Money and Status equation.
/u/Rollo-Tomassi took an in depth look at the matter here which I refer you to as a starting point for further reading.
TomFoo 8y ago
Thanks for that. I missed that post by Rollo.
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ichbinron 8y ago
Hey Rollo,
How did you meet your Wife & what made you decide to settle down w her? This is because your advice has helped me to break free of a Provider/Beta mentality so I'm just curious what special qualities she has for you to commit. Thanks!!!
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2012/02/28/fidelity/
Expectations1 8y ago
Do you believe women care whether you are kind or not? OR does are women essentially indifferent to it?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Agreeableness and humility in men has been associated with a negative predictor of sex partners: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0029265
From an Alpha Fucks perspective I would say no, but from a parental investment perspective I'm sure 'kindness' counts for something.
Expectations1 8y ago
I see, i guess as long as its a kindness women feel has been earned and not just being a doormat, it would be okay in this way.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
If you want to actually make money in music, get into the recording and mastering side of things. The industry is a shell of what it used to be. No one develops bands anymore and the only way a band can actually make money is by touring relentlessly and merchandise these days. It's not like it was back in my day.
I have respect for kids doing it now, but they never had to face the kinds of challenges we did in the late 80s early 90s. Today you can record and mix everything on an iMac that we had to pay for multiple studio session to do back then.
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fingerthemoon 8y ago
Image is almost as important as the music. Get jacked and ripped, develop a costume/persona and make your music visual or theatrical. Street perform, if you can't make $200-$300 a day you're doing it wrong. Learn to live out of a van/bus/rv. Do nothing but write/record/perform/workout and you just might make enough to get by and keep doing what you love. Probably won't get rich but you'll have more fun than most people even dream of. And there will be plenty of women, watch out, that's the biggest trap, with drug addiction a close second. Don't ever put your music on the back-burner for a woman, you could lose both and it could take years to build your momentum back. I made that mistake, lost everything and it almost killed me. But the up side is the depth, grit and strength that comes from suffering, losing everything and building it back again.
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fingerthemoon 8y ago
More advice: it's not how talented you are that determines success, it's how much you want it. Also, people say don't put all your eggs in one basket, but if there's a plan B, plan A never happens. Making it as a musician is one of the most difficult paths you could choose, but the rewards are greater. Just give it your all and you will succeed.
FurrowBeard 8y ago
Hi, Music Technology major here. PM me and I would be happy to discuss with you some routes you can take for exposure and success.
nicolasgroux 8y ago
I'm 23 years old and have been out of work for 9 months because I was sick. I'm starting to get back to normal now. What's your advise to get the most out of the experience?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Self-assessment and honest insight would be where I'd start. At 23 I'd be asking myself what it was I really wanted to do since it appears you're recreating yourself from a base point.
https://therationalmale.com/2014/11/14/mental-point-of-origin/
PranksterLad 8y ago
Rollo, I've actually emailed you privately, however, you did not answer to my last email. I'm struggling to get over a bad oneitis ex who seems to tick a few of the BPD boxes. It's been six months, I've fucked hotter girls than her, but I still think of her, still miss her, hell I dream of her. Is there anything else I can do, nothing else is working. Is there anyway to get her back since I cannot take this anymore.
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Do. Not. Put. Your. Dick. In. Crazy.
Even if you did once before, before you knew it was crazy. Don't repeat the mistake.
PranksterLad 8y ago
I miss her so much man, I want her back so much, she isn't crazy, she just isn't, I became bluepill.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
No. And as I told you, never root through garbage once you drag it to the curb. https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/08/rooting-through-garbage/
Max_Flair 8y ago
Would you welcome the idea of a contraceptive for men? Apart from the obvious plastics of course.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2016/09/20/a-womans-prerogative/
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yep: https://therationalmale.com/2016/09/20/a-womans-prerogative/
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Hi Rollo. ????
Have you had any pets that were not greyhounds?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Oh yeah, I had an english pit and a Chowbrador.
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Fulp_Piction 8y ago
Hey Rollo,
I'm recently re-reading your year one posts after leaving an LTR and realising how I'm basically back at square one. While I managed the relationship well for the most part, oneitis creeped in and I grew attached to the relationship I had 'built'.
I'm finding internalising the material difficult this time around, I comprehend it but it's hard for me to apply what I read. Can you point me in a good direction? I'm also interested in social circle game, if you have any post recommendations for that?
Thanks.
GiskardReventelov 8y ago
I applied many of the principles I learned from here and success in career and with women followed. But I still feel like I very often act against my own nature, when I apply red pill strategies when interacting with women. It's mainly me holding myself back and not showing the enthusiasm and friendliness I would normally show towards girls. It certainly works, but sometimes I think it's not me. Any advice on those thoughts from you side? Does it become natural after more time?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Very common with newly RP aware men, "I don't feel like I'm being me. I like using Emojis in texts.,…etc."
It's really tough in the beginning for guys to come to grips that what their 'natural' selves (i.e. the Blue Pill conditioned personality) is broadcasting to women in the way of subcomms is entirely anti-seductive if not outright repulsive. It feels natural, and everyone he's ever known has told him to just be himself.
Once you internalize the Red Pill and it becomes part of your personality and your reflexive response, it does get easier. However, there's always going to be this little part of remorse you have for what the 'old' Blue Pill you liked to do with women. It's actually something you need to address for yourself because it can become a source of bitterness about the nature of women for guys.
The want is for that Blue Pill guy's sentiments to be appreciated by women (I like to be sweet and use Emojis), but when they find out they're not, and in fact are hindering his success with women, that's when the reality makes him feel nihilistic.
sqerl 8y ago
First off, thank you. Your books are entertaining, insightful, and have improved my life. I'm very grateful for your work.
Second, I know a young man (16) that reminds me of myself at that age. I gave him Rational Male, and told him to reach out anytime with questions. Do you have any age appropriate tips I would share?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
TRM book 3 will have a substantial portion of it devoted to Red Pill parenting, but one primary thing you can do is serve as an example to him.
Again. demonstrate, do not explicate. Don't get together with the express purpose of talking about Red Pill things, but rather plan something to do together where you might be able to talk as a byproduct of whatever project you're doing together.
Women talk, men do.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
You're going to like my new book, all I'm saying.
setzer_ 8y ago
I like this... I always thought I'd raise an absolute badass son but somewhat clueless on how to raise a daughter. Thanks for the post.
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Dookiestain_LaFlair 8y ago
Did you get your name from L.A. Confidential? Cause that was a great movie.
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cashcow1 8y ago
How do we save Western Civilization?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
From the bottom up, one man at a time.
cashcow1 8y ago
Do you have anything more specific? Any specific strategies, methods, ideas?
I realize I'm asking too much. But I have to ask.
SW9876 8y ago
I have a hard time finding the median between a few extremes. For example, demonstrating that you're sex hungry but not sex starved, or showing that you're interested and find her attractive without validating her. Thoughts?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
That's the "art" in PUA. It really is a creative, improvisational, adaptational equation when you think about it. As with everything practice and reassessment is key.
Herelam 8y ago
When are you going to debate Paul Elam on his An Ear For Men Youtube channel?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I honestly don't think a debate between myself and Elam will resolve much of anything, particularly after his Roosh interview. Our fundamental disagreement will be about his ego-investment in egalitarian-equalist sex roles as opposed to evolved complementary binary gender roles.
Furthermore, An Ear for Men is his game and nothing like a neutral debate would occur.
ImPerToo 8y ago
Hi Rollo, One question I posted to askTRP, and I'd also like to hear your opinion: Is it worthwhile to act ignorant/dumber than I am in my career/relationships/friendships?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Law 21 Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker – Seem Dumber than your Mark
No one likes feeling stupider than the next persons. The trick, is to make your victims feel smart – and not just smart, but smarter than you are. Once convinced of this, they will never suspect that you may have ulterior motives.
It's certainly applicable when you're determining the motivation of others.
ImPerToo 8y ago
I have yet to read that book but I will be on to it asap. Thanks Rollo
ManowaR1488 8y ago
Law 21
ImPerToo 8y ago
I'll read that book after I'm done with rational male. Halfway through it. Thanks bud
Katsuri 8y ago
Highly recommend reading the actual book, but you can also find audio summaries on youtube. I recommend Illacertus' channel, covers most of Robert Greene's works and several other important titles.
ImPerToo 8y ago
I'll go check it up, thanks for the recommendation! Never heard of this channel before
HangisLife 8y ago
TRP has given us the ability to see how transient emotions are and why we shouldn't base any important decisions on short term emotions. How do you short-circuit negative thinking? For instance, that immense feeling of negativity that succumbs you after the girl that you've been flirting with all night starts making out with a random, or the project you've been working is falling apart.
Bonus if possible: Giving up alcohol, especially when going out. Any advice?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Remove yourself from that negative environment and focus on activities that produce a positive dopamine effect. Work out, listen/play music, do something creative, review your past successes, etc. Then get back in the Game when you're in a better frame of mind.
Giving up alcohol: Good idea, and that's coming from a guy in the industry. I always tell guys they need to be less domain dependent when it comes to Game. Alcohol is a big element of that domain dependency. You need to be able to capitalize on Game opportunities is a variety of environments, but if all you ever associate socializing with girls with is in a club with a drink in hand you're limiting you capacity to calibrate, adapt and improvise.
https://therationalmale.com/2014/12/23/domain-dependence/
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I've done a modified Max OT routine for going on 6 years now. I also do HIIT cardio on my off days. I do a lot of active stuff too; I fence Saber & Epeé, I kayak and I snowmobile in the winter. I think as you get older form becomes more important. The injuries I get these days aren't from lifting heavy, but rather getting the weight of the rack to do a set. I always end up pulling something when I'm pulling off or re-racking weight.
I've got a post in the works about Deep Conversion coming soon.
When I do drink I tend to drink neat, so I like a good Gin. When I'm in Holland I always make a point to take a bottle of Jenever home with me.
Lionlocker 8y ago
When in my country Holland, do you partake in cannabis consumption? What are your thoughts on the matter?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Heheh, no, I gave up on herb back in my early 20's when I realized it was just slowing me down.
lozboss 8y ago
Rollo,
Good to have you here. Shame that SoSuave is now useless.
Simple one:
How do you get over the bitterness/anger at women and have something fruitful in a LTR?
I'm two years redpill yesterday and I seriously detest women and their actions.
_the_shape_ 8y ago
How satisfied are you with the direction of the manosphere at large from day 1 to where we are now? What are your thoughts on more writers taking up the fight and spreading the message even further?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
God, I wish there were more Red Pill writers. When I read there was going to be a documentary film about 'The Red Pill' I was thinking, "hmm, no one contacted me for an interview" nor was Roosh consulted or any of the very few Red Pill writers of note. Later I find it's the MRM and they're appropriating TRP for a doc about them.
But in that minute I realized that there are really precious few heavy hitters in the 'sphere that really write RP material. That's not to say there aren't some great writers in the 'sphere, just that most stick to isolated niches, PUA, MGTOW, MRAs, TRP, but all from very specific perspectives.
I don't read Roosh very much since he's really exited the manosphere to reinvent himself as an alt-right pundit. But he used to be someone I'd read daily. Same with Heartiste. I feel like I'm the last of the three 'R's of the manosphere who's still doing what he does.
I expect that after this election is over you'll see a lot of these guys sudden't rediscover the 'sphere. I've always felt that TRP needs to be apolitical, areligious, amoral and not linked to any social agenda, because when you associate TRP with any of that it takes on the characteristics of those influences. Then TRP becomes meaningless. That's why I have such a problem with this documentary slapping TRP on its title – it is in no way representative of TRP, but now it's got the stink of the MRM on it.
And they're not the only ones, the alt-right adopt TRP to mean anything they consider truth. Be that as it may, both of them just debase what so many men have put together as TRP for so very long.
LarParWar 8y ago
What about Jim?
haxurmind 8y ago
Given feminism's links to everything else, anything that stands to counter feminism (the manosphere included) is bound to appear in equal measure as an opposing force wherever feminism appears.
Even the mantra of TRP, 'enjoy the decline', stands counter to feminism as it teaches men to put themselves first instead of burning ourselves out to serve others.
wtfawdNoWeddingShoes 8y ago
I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I've been following this subreddit closely for the past 3 years. About a year prior to cutting off my LTR (partly due to adopting many of the things here led to that, which I have no regrets about) I really started to change my ways. I read everything in the sidebar, "No More Mr. Nice Guy" was a real wake-up call for me, and I'd love to delve into some of the earlier stuff.
I know you are one of the more influential members of the early movement, and that it started as PUA stuff (and that MRA stuff is like the retarded step-child of TRP) and has evolved into the high quality TRP type stuff we see here today, though sadly the quality has dropped in the past few years since this sub has gained greater popularity.
Other than your books, Might is Right, stuff by GLO, (I just added Practical Female Psychology: For the Practical Man and Why Men Are the Way They Are to my reading list,) what would you suggest I dig into in order to get a more... grounded and historically relevant view on how the "manosphere" ended up where it is now.
I'm fascinated in the historical/anthropological perspective on TRP and how it came to be. It's clear by many different metrics the reasons it is the way it is. I understand it is not MRA, it is not PUA, it is a philosophy and toolbox for men on how to be men in today's world. I plan on taking up writing, and this topic is one of my passions, and would love to contribute in some way. I would love to hear from you, I really respect your opinion and the major role you've played in making this community what it is today.
Thanks in advance!
AlexIsOnFire11 8y ago
Of the three 'R's, your body of work has definitely been the most useful because of its objective and realistic perspective. When reading other blogs, there's a lot of political/religious links in the material being taught. Your work has none of that and is why I will always consider your work to be truth. Fuck the rest of the manosphere, they all change with the social tide and are thus meaningless. TRM will always be a pillar of uncompromised truth and insight.
Auvergnat 8y ago
Mystery method and book of pook. As much as some people hate on PUA, the early 00's game material laid on the groundwork of what would become the red pill
stickfiguresk 8y ago
But doesn't TRP philosophy line up extremely well with libertarianism? Like an instruction manual to becoming Ayn Ran's wet dream? Amoral, I can agree with. Areligious: there's probably a western culture argument there.
As much as it seems counter intuitive, I don't think it can be both apolitical AND amoral/"not linked to any social agenda." I know I'm not the only one that got much more conservative after discovering TRP. Not looking to install any legislation is still a political stance.
SetConsumes 8y ago
If you take Rand seriously you haven't read enough philosophy.
stickfiguresk 8y ago
Rand's works are her ode to hypergamy. If you can't take that seriously, you haven't read enough TRP.
SetConsumes 8y ago
Lol, you're spot on.
But as an actual philosophy? It's shit. You can't combine Aristotle and Nietzsche and expect it to be coherent. The statement itself hurts to think about.
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What is the pinnacle of man?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I'll tell you when I meet him.
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What is your article that does not deal directly with sexual strategy that you think all of your readers should read?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
A New Hope
https://therationalmale.com/2014/09/29/a-new-hope/
It's in Preventive Medicine too. I hate to have newly unplugged guys tell me how hopeless they think life is after they've become RP aware. I address this here.
BlackJ1 8y ago
What's up Rollo, I've got a question on the relevance of MGTOW when it comes to the manosphere in general. Do you believe it's possible for a man to self-actualize in the absence of women and even sex?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
No. If what you mean by self-actualize is based on Maslow's hierarchy, no.
They'll disagree of course, but in my estimate a full life experience entails interacting with women (GFs, mothers, sisters, co-workers, etc.) and having actual sex with an actual woman.
https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/26/you-need-sex/
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kafka-tamura 8y ago
Rollo, do you think exercising the option of hookers is a buffer? Lets say you do, would you agree there is a point at which the risk vs reward would outweigh traditional dating. Like lets say 10% of your paycheck in a city where hooking up is relatively difficult.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes. https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/11/sugar-babies/
https://therationalmale.com/2012/01/09/services-rendered/
PranksterLad 8y ago
Rollo, I am about to graduate from college from my Master's program with NO idea on what I want to do next in life. I got an MBA, have limited to almost no money (spent on the education), am in America on a student VISA and at 24 I am unsure on what to do next.
I love soccer, got a scholarship for it here in America, but don't think I am good enough to play it professionally. I moved out here for my ex-girlfriend and realize I am all in this by myself and am unsure on what to do next?
Cheers
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Bad choice. https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/14/dream-killers/
Read this book now: https://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Robert-Greene/dp/014312417X/
chris_sydney 8y ago
Hi Rollo,
Should women be a main dish or a side dish in man's life?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Women should only ever be a complement to a man's life, never the focus of it.
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ReasonFreak 8y ago
Hi Rollo, huge fan, you're my favorite manosphere writer.
I was just wondering if you have any thoughts as to the roots of the SJW phenomenon and if you see them getting bigger or smaller in the coming years and decades?
My take is that they're a kind of grand alliance of the SMP's biggest losers. Mainly ugly women, weak men, and non heterosexuals who feel entitled to more options. Personally, I believe the spheres of society that are dominated by SJW's today (Old Media, Universities) will still be dominated by them in the future but that those spheres of society will shrink in relevance with regards to the rest of society.
Thoughts?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Here's a secret, everyone is a social justice warrior. The only difference is what one considers "justice".
Justice to me is a society that respects conventional masculinity and evolved complementary sex roles. One that recognizes, respects and celebrates the innate differences between binary genders instead of delusions of transgenderism. I could go on, but you get the idea.
TRP is a form of social education and I think most RP aware men will at some point advocate for it or try to unplug other men. Is that not a form of activism?
I'm fully onboard with resisting the pop-culture undercurrent of what we call SJW's, but it's their ideology that I disagree with. Once the pendulum swings back towards conventional masculinity, nationalism or what have you, that's when we need to be careful of how we employ the same weapons that SJWs are only too happy to use now on ourselves.
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IndustrialEngineer 8y ago
Hey Rollo. After an almost 5-year, mostly shitty, mostly blue-pilled relationship, I am not at all looking for any sort of commitment. I'm 28 and have a 4-year-old daughter with my ex, whom we split time with equally; never married, and we actually co-parent well. I read The Rational Male more or less right after the breakup and I'm glad I did; it has really changed my life. So thanks for that.
Do you think I should bring up the fact that I have a kid early on in an interaction with a woman (or before the interaction, e.g. by having a pic of us together in my Tinder/Bumble profile), or not at all? Since I'm only looking for hookups I really don't think it's relevant at all but I want to avoid the potentially awkward situation in which I get a woman home and then she finds out and is scared off by it or something.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
No. For the simple reason that discovering who you are as a man is something women crave. The more a challenge you are, the more an enigma and mystery you are the more women engage. Nothing is more satisfying for a woman that when she believes she's figured you out using her mythical feminine intuition.
Do not deny her this pleasurable fantasy. Keep your cards held tight to your chest and allow her to discover you have a daughter only as a reward for her behavior and continued interest. In fact, a woman discovering you're a parent is a rare treat for her if she has designs on you having parental investment potential. It feeds the fantasy and the fact that to were protective about revealing it makes it all the more tantilizing.
haxurmind 8y ago
A woman's challenge is to make a man shed his personality (commitment).
A mans challenge is to make a woman shed her clothes (sex).
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IndustrialEngineer 8y ago
So you'd basically just say "oh yeah, I have a kid, but she's not here right now" or something like that if she asked/was surprised to find that out when she got to your place?
metallica11 8y ago
this. to me - the important distinction where having a kid makes you FAIL is when she gains attraction towards you etc. if she finds out you have a kid (and is like most women in their early twenties who tend to avoid men with kids like the plague - who sadly are the most attractive ones) prior to attraction (example is prior to you escalating - posting a pic of your child on bumble for example), she will most likely ghost you or swipe left. go on a date with her and she is hot and bothered from escalating and she finds out you have a kid, you are probably all clear - especially if you just want to hook up.
I have a son as well - and my success PLUMMETED using online dating and even cold approaching/meeting new women when they found out I had a kid, I am talking about going on dry spells for 6+ months and missing out on potential lay after potential lay. I swore I was never the guy that would "hide" his kid. Now I only mention it until after attraction is established/after the first meet up and it has worked fine for me. of course, if they ask I will tell.
MotiMorphosys 8y ago
Good afternoon, Rollo! Do you think that hypergamy and feminism are primarily the result of cultures glamorizing sexuality? And, how do you think the average man would act if the tables were turned and he had the sexual options that the average woman has? Thanks for your work, keep it up!
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Hypergamy is the result of biological and evolved motivators, not a social outcome. Feminism is a social adaptation with the latent purpose of optimizing Hypergamy for the greatest number of women possible while diminishing all male influence in the process of their optimizing it.
Culture didn't create sex. Sexuality is glamorized because it serves an evolutionary imperative. Evolution doesn't care about glamor, it only cares that you're having sex.
Look at the ubiquitousness of free online porn and you'll understand what men would do if the tables were switched.
DonMefistofele 8y ago
Hey Rollo,
Read your book. Been unplugged long before then. Fully aware of SMV and book was really great re-enforcement of lots of ideas. My Q: 25, prospects for future are great. Been with 80+ women. Dated plenty. Have gf I'd like to marry. I see no red flags, and we're both on same page in terms of big picture wants/needs and have same understanding of contract of monogamy/marriage. My rule of thumb about "wifing up" is that the pros would have to outweigh the cons. They do, quite a bit. So-how do you know when marriage is the right choice? (Would sign pre-nup, already been discussed) I by no means have one-itis (a concept long banished from my brain) but of all the ones I know, could sketch up, have "known", she wins. I want to marry her and go build a kickass life with her. What would you do?/what advice could you give?
I'd really appreciate your insight. I love your work and have great respect for your intellect, and as a married man, desire your perspective even more.
Fuknmods 8y ago
The tl;dr to marriage is simple:
Thats it. You get all the benefits (except the tax discount) and minimize the risks of divorce. Added dread for her knowing youre still legally single so you cheating means no payout for her in divorce, no getting fat or you leave, no withholding sex or you leave.
lozboss 8y ago
OP making out that he's Captain RedPill superhero then going on about Marriage and building a life together in some sort of bullsh*t Bluepill fantasy.
Smh. Hopefully these responses have woken you up bro.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Marriage is never the 'right' choice for a man. Unfortunately the institution of marriage has become so debased and so much of a liability for men that I cannot advise men to marry even the 'ideal' girl right now.
That's really hard for me to type these days because I want to believe that a Red Pill aware man should marry a woman who's on the same page as he is and start a family and pass on his Red Pill awareness to sons and daughters for the sake of repairing our corrupted society. In the 'sphere there's a constant beat about how men ought to save society by standing up to our SJW world and marry a complementary woman who would make a great Red Pill wife.
Unfortunately, every legislation, every consent law, every legal and financial liability about marriage is a no-win situation for a man. Any guy getting married today Red Pill or not is assuming extraordinary risk for very little upside. And it's only getting worse as feminism, social justice and the Feminine Imperative works its way into mainstream religion (the last refuge of marriage).
Watch this documentary and then ask yourself if marriage is the 'right' choice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRDZ4iOnSo
DonMefistofele 8y ago
Thank you, Rollo. Vows will do in the meantime. That's what counts anyways, IMO. No need to increase govt power anymore than it already it is.
ManowaR1488 8y ago
80+? Fuck, I'm 27 at 40+ and thought I was doing well
SexdictatorLucifer 8y ago
Past a certain number (I'd say 25) quality means much more than quantity.
A guy with a low n-count needs to pussy rampage. Once your 25-40+ you have the ability to start gaming and getting steady sex from higher quality women.
DonMefistofele 8y ago
What's the rush? Your avg quality might be higher than mine.
I had a lot of insecurities to contend with. They all ended manifesting in ways that drastically raised my already high SMV through the roof. IMO, numbers don't do anything other than give you hard proof of options (which is the foundation of confidence).
omonicor 8y ago
Which insecurities did you have to contend with?
And how they manifested, how did you beat them?
justwalkingthrough12 8y ago
How do you guys even get to numbers so high..? Go out like every weekend?
ManowaR1488 8y ago
If you were 27 and only fucking since 19 years old. That's 96 months. That's one different girl on average every two and a half months. Come to think of it, it seems underwhelming if you're active on Tinder and sometimes bar/clubs
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I thought the last RPM was pretty good. Most of my interview are on soundcloud. https://therationalmale.com/2016/08/15/the-red-pill-monthly-frame/
trppr 8y ago
Is evolutionary psychology the foundational psychological theory underpinning your writing?
If so, how would you use it to explain the feminine imperative?
The reason I am asking is because your use of the feminine imperative in your 2nd book (and your blog) seems to accord more with a collective female psyche a la Jung. Furthermore, I also see certain mainstream psychoanalytic concepts, primarily the 'subconscious' being used without any connection to evolutionary psychology. How would you connect the two?
Thanks!
P.S. Please get an editor for your next book so I can recommend it to more people :)
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Evo-Psych is a very important discipline that informs a lot of my own and many other writers works, whether they acknowledge it or not. I also use quite a bit of behavioral psych and evo-bio in my work too.
I coined the term Feminine Imperative because I felt there needed to be a more comprehensive term with regard to the feminine influence as a gestalt whole in society, in evo-bio motives, in psyche and in intersexual dynamism. So in a way, yes, the FI would account for Jung's psyche, but in 2016 we have far more evidence of the biological and sociological influences of the feminine.
To many guys want to just simplify the bad aspects of the FI and call it feminism, but there's so much more to it than that. Feminism is an ideological extension of the FI, one that wields more and more power, but it's still founded on serving the interests of the FI.
It's funny how evo-psych is used in the mainstream these days. Usually it's cited as evidence of a concept or else it's some fem-blogger looking to use an isolated study as click-bait. I do my best to consider the entirety of evo-psych but a lot of critics discount evo-psych mostly because it confirms a lot their own misgivings. Evo-psych always seem deterministic and if you know anything about the non-sexual applications of evo-psych you know that's not so. It's when you consider evo-psych in intersexual terms with winners and losers that it gets personal for them.
dr_warlock 8y ago
People's avoidance of evo-psyche is caused by us personifying human-beings too greatly. It's self-pedastooling that prevents accurate assessment. We are just talking animals traversing a concrete jungle dressed in silkworm ass-byproduct. We are animals that do everything we can to ignore and sugar coat our true primal motives (sex) so that others (the masses) will cooperate in civilization. It is becoming our demise.
trppr 8y ago
Agreed it's a great term!
Would be interested in a blog post fleshing out the connection between biology, psychology, and the FI.
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Know that you 'know' nothing and be open to mentoring, apprenticeship and instruction in all aspects of life.
dr_warlock 8y ago
It's important to note that you shouldn't disregard wisdom just because the guy is bluepill or beta. The puzzle pieces of life are scattered among the population. Use people for what they're good for by customizing your interaction with them based on their vibe, then move on. People really need to get over this 100% uber alpha-redpill 24/7 fantasy.
Testiklease 8y ago
I didn't figure this out until I was 24. Real info here
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Frame for sure, but also to exemplify the man you would want your daughter to marry from a Red Pill aware perspective. You need to be the Alpha to whom she compares all the other men in her life to.
masterpiece00 8y ago
Rollo, we all know the SMV chart and the RP philosophy, usually something like -- 'women enjoy the riches of sexual market and general histrionic overrated popularity in their early 20's and hit wall around 30, Men at 30 are (allegedly) only just walking into the grounds of their newly built castle, climbing the stairs to the roof to survey the land and to strategize what to conquer in their life (aside from personnel pursuits, this is basically when the women whom they couldn't attract before are now in an abundance). But personally I see a big contradiction and can't understand the logic.
You've said in The Rational Male - 'Dream Killer's' -
"If you are single at 35 with a moderate amount of personal success, you are the envy of man-dom because you possess two of the most valuable resources most men your age or older statistically do not – time and freedom. I envy you. You are unshackled by the responsibilities, liabilities and accountabilities that most men your age in marriages, LTRs, with children, or recovering from divorce must contend with daily. Without any intention you are in such a position that you can go in any direction of your choosing without considering the impact of your choice for anyone but yourself. Many other men, in the most ideal of LTRs, do not have this luxury."
Male SMV peaks around mid thirties, more than 10 years after a girl in his same demographic is at her beauty & bodily prime. So 33 year old Jack whom has had a few flings in his earlier years is now hot to trot and enters his high SMV paradigm - 32 year old Jenny at his work and and 29 year old Jane at the cafe want to be with Jack, as well as a multitude of other date-able but albeit older interests he is suddenly attracting. But he like most males Jack still just wants to go to bed with high SMV girls, the same types he wanted in his 20's - all of which are aged 17 - 24.
As discussed in various realms, girls seem to stick to men their age group, so these girls Jack likes and is attracted to are hooking up with college males or white & blue collar, early - mid twenties men, whom by a stroke of irony -> Have apparently the lowest SMV a male can have.
So basically Jack has the choice of one hundred women whom have rode the carousel for 10+ years? Wouldn't the men who are in their age group, bedding the women in their prime the ones with the high SMV? Obviously if this is the case than the charts are wrong.
If the male 4's (by the smv chart) or thereabouts in their 20's are sleeping with all the best prime women, whom all men want to sleep with, arn't these then the only high SMV males? and is the reason for my confusion. Which sounds a lot like the argument that 20% of men (Alphas) are dating 80% of the women in the sexual market place.
Jack is still left with all the well worn 20+ notch, post wall women searching for beta bucks even though Jack is apparently an 8 and seemingly & rapidly according to all literature and discussion - 'going up in value' as he ages.
I find it hard to grasp and much of what is discussed seems to overlap and contradict, Would love to hear your experiences and thoughts.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
You're making a comparative peak mistake here. Remember two things; women's sexual priorities shift as they mature (Preventive Medicine) and necessity and a capacity to capitalize on Hypergamous opportunity changes as a woman's maturity changes.
Both Jenny and Jane are in a demographic (Epiphany Phase) where they come to realize their ability to compete intra-sexually for the highest SMV men is greatly reduced because those men are more interested in the women they had more trouble bedding (the 22-24 cohort) in the past, but now miraculously, have access to.
Thus, Jenny & Jane's sexual priorities have shifted from short term Alpha Fucks in their 20's to long term Beta Bucks as they age out of the SMP. So yes, penniless fuck musicians (such as myself) may've gotten laid like tile when a woman's sexual priorities are driven by Alpha sex gratification, but they're a poor choice when Jenny's priorities are all about long term security and parental investment.
You're also making a mistake about women looking for men within their own age demographic. Statistically women prefer men to be between 5-8 years older than themselves. That's expressed preference too. Statistically, monogamous pairings in western countries leans even to 6-9 years older. In fact the only demographic of women who expressly seek younger lovers are divorceé women in their late 30s and early 40s. Why? Because once again, her sexual priorities shift back from guaranteed security (which she's likely already established) to Alpha fucks short term sex – something she missed as a sacrifice for long term security.
masterpiece00 8y ago
Okay, thanks for clarifying that. I am actually half way through my second read of The Rational Male now, so it seems being a never married, childless, debtless single 31 year old (albeit without the disposable income) isn't so bad.
askerman97 8y ago
How do I get over the fear of approaching girls even at parties? I drink and still feel nervous
james_the_dean 8y ago
The second question is what I would like to know also. How do you handle when your long-time friends question your new direction. Mocking is also on the table when I try to explain self-improvement.
dr_warlock 8y ago
Ghost 'em. They were from chapter one. Now it's time to move on to chapter 2.
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but don't burn bridges though.
SkorchZang 8y ago
Everyone will try to drag you back into that crab bucket as usual, but if that doesn't work & doesn't seem to phase you whatsoever, then it will be accepted as the new normal.
Women especially, they readily accept a man's "transformation". If your social status changes (or appears to have changed) the way they treat you changes too. It goes the opposite way with equal ease, if you used to be the top alpha in college but then kinda "lost it" in a long relationship, the girls who you thought would swoon over you forever will quickly be onto it and not give you the time of day now.
blackhawks93 8y ago
You don't. You get new friends. Make them feel threatened that you may leave them then show yourself. People are a lot more accepting if they are afraid.
_the_shape_ 8y ago
"Are you asking me so that you can mock me?"
It's very unfortunate, sometimes even sad, but sometimes you have to begin parting ways with people who at the very least cannot keep on the sidelines about the direction you are taking in life (nevermind outright supporting you).
A lot of people may support an intense, self-improvement driven life in theory, but will try to knock it down when they see it in person ("this guy doesn't drink! lol", "this guy reads these economics books after working his 9-5 - the fuck?!? lol" etc.) Don't let it weigh you down ("shit, they can't handle my lifestyle - maybe I should take up smoking again?") If they can't stomach it, too bad - you have one life and it's a very short one at that.
james_the_dean 8y ago
You might be right about that one. I always had this answer on the back of my mind and even though some materials cover this topic here I felt like my friends are an exeption and I'm overblowing things. Kind of like oneitis with friends lol ( 9+ years )
Taking your advice on this.
Krunjar 8y ago
What would you say are your top 5 skills/attributes for attracting women, and top 5 for keeping them interested/attracted? (so for example in the first top 5 you might put looks high up but maybe something else is more important in the 2nd top 5)
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Bat_man92 8y ago
Big fan of yours ,Rollo.What are the books that you would recommend to a 24 year old guy?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Mastery 48 Laws of Power The Red Queen Art of Seduction Why Men Are The Way They Are A Billion Wicked Thoughts
nathanbrisk 8y ago
Has the search of higher (spiritual) truth affected your direction or understanding in red pill studies and a red pill life? If so, how?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I do recognize that humans have a need for spiritual connection as part of what makes us 'us'. I see a lot of the practicality in many spiritual pursuits and social dictums that were inspired by Red Pill truths as well. In fact, much of the spiritual answers we seek are to questions that the Red Pill makes difficult to accept.
M3K33L 8y ago
What is your opinion of a high schooler unplugging? Do you find that to be good, in the sense of a head start? What are some things I could do to practice game and general TRP things without running too much risk of isolating myself within the school?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
This is a good forum for a high school guy unplugging questions: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php?forums/high-school-forum.16/
M3K33L 8y ago
Thanks Rollo, you're the best.
Battle-Scars 8y ago
Thank you for posting. The Rational Male made all the difference to me when I first started my journey of improvement as a Man. Are you working on a new book?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes, it's in the second round of edits now. It's getting to be more comprehensive than I'd originally intended too, so as I edit I come up with more material.
Writing a book for me is like a living thing. It evolves and tells me what it wants to be as I'm writing it.
ManowaR1488 8y ago
Is it an extension of the rational male series, or something a bit different?
SMGPthrowaway 8y ago
Did you ever speak to Shark from SMGP, the blog running from 2009-2011ish?
If so, what did you think of him and his teachings?
He woke me up when he was active. I avidly read all of his posts and felt like they were gold. Just wondering if you had any thoughts.
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TheBrokenRuler 8y ago
What's the best way in your experience, to awaken someone to this way of life?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Living by example.
Allowing them to come to you about it.
Being sensitive to when the right moment (usually a moment of trauma for them) is to relate uncomfortable truths and then be sure to account for the anger and nihilism that will initially be a part of their unplugging.
GetrichonIMP 8y ago
Hey Rolo, what is your preferred method of attracting females?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
When I was younger, and even now as an adult, I was always very comfortable with implied social proof and preselection. I have a natural default for this even today when I'm at an on-premise promo, but as I'm older now I've found that Amused Mastery combined with social proof/preselection is catnip for young and older women. It's all about calibration from that point.
GetrichonIMP 8y ago
I really enjoyed The Rational male, it read like the ultimate conclusion of "The Game" Keep up the great work and thanks for giving us your time!
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What would you do at 26 with a poli sci background and service industry experience?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Don't let your major decide what you're gonna do with your life. What do YOU want to do?
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Work from my laptop, ideally self employed.
Make at least 6 figures a year.
Diabolo_Advocato 8y ago
It's your job to figure out how to do that, not anyone else's. A good place to start is with brainstorming and research.
TomFoo 8y ago
It's possible. Don't stop until you get there. If you haven't read it already, check out 4 hour workweek.
omonicor 8y ago
What would you say is the foundation for achieving this level of creativity/productiveness/skillfulness?
Is it habits, discipline, deliberate practice, no LTRs, no marriage, etc?
What can you suggest to a 26-year-old computer scientist who dreams on changing the world and is making a musician career too?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Don't wait on inspiration. Often enough it finds you when you're in the middle of some routine or practice.
_the_shape_ 8y ago
I think back to my undergrad days and a professor who argued that every single first draft of any given paper was no good, that it wast the second or third draft (sometimes beyond that) that was really worth anything.
I thought his stance was based on some self-righteous, sadistic assholery - nothing more - but it wasn't until later that I came to understand why he saw things that way.
As an artist myself, I can tell you, that the mental headspace you want to be in is one where you can present a final, polished product, but still know that it could have taken on multiple, different outcomes. You settled on one final version, but it could have looked like this or looked like that (or in your case, sounded like this, sound like that etc.)
The more you make your art second-nature, the closer you get to achieving this mindset where your thinking is something closer to "ooo! I know! Let me try it like this!..." instead of the constant struggle that either leads to a happy accident at best, something you potentially feel like trashing at worst.
Trust that deliberate practice (as you pointed out above) together with the discipline of constantly working on your art, perhaps occasionally 'coloring outside the lines', so to speak, will take you quite far in due time.
bslizzle 8y ago
Rollo, I've got a couple of friends who are just starting to swallow the pill. I had no clue they knew about it until they brought it up to me, but im gonna help them out as ive been involved for a lot longer than they have. Aside from the obvious online content, what books would you recommend for people just beginning their walk?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I always say 48 Laws of Power because I think it's a seminal work for guys unplugging, but also because their response to it will tell you, as a Red Pill aware man, where their Blue Pill programming is at.
Most Blue Pill egalitarian-equalist men will reject the notions of power in 48 Laws because it grates against their ideological ego-investments.
Other books: Art of Seduction The Red Queen Mastery Selfish Gene Any of Steven Pinker's works (though he's a mangina himself)
Auvergnat 8y ago
I read "The Blank Slate" recently and I gotta say it's a masterpiece on the topic of human nature. Pinker is an incredibly talented writer, allowing him to explain difficult concepts effortlessly and convince readers to his point of view. This, along with the fact that he is still politically leaning left, makes this book the perfect gift to your bluepill/leftist friend. By the end of it, he'll start having doubts.
SickOfIt518 8y ago
Can you write a book specifically for marriage game? I own TRM already.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2012/03/09/relationship-game-a-primer/
https://therationalmale.com/2012/04/19/wife-porn/
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bitigchi 8y ago
Where can I buy your books in e-book format outside US?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Depends on your country, but honestly, look on EBay for a used copy if you're having trouble going with Amazon.
beAn0n 8y ago
Rollo, could you expand or put into other words the whole "women want men to just get it." Is just "getting it" understanding they're not creatures from space, but humans, and testing is both a male and female function to see what type of person you are...
Thanks
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
There's a post for that: https://therationalmale.com/2012/08/22/just-get-it/
awayofthought 8y ago
What do you have to say about the cluster-fuck that is called college in America? How many more mens' futures need to be fucked up in false sexual assault claims before America wakes up? So far this school year, two of my friends have been claimed as rapist and kicked off campus.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
What's going to happen is that the campus culture will become so hostile and so strewn with risks that only feminized men and 'progressive' women will populate major universities. Free speech is already stifled at most, but you'll notice that that speech is only countervailing ideological thought to what's approved and comfortable to those institutions.
Campus culture is for women, by women young men entering these universities ought to have a required course that educates them on the risks they subject themselves to by attending a college, much less uttering a dissenting argument about the prevalent ideology in a class.
sharkfinnsoup 8y ago
Thanks for all you've done for me, my sons, other men and the odd woman (be it temporarily). There used to be a site "A Dark Heart", that I used to read along with you and with the other 2 Rs. How can one re-read some of the essays? PS. The 3Rs and the Private Man have made me laugh a lot. Cheers Gentlemen!
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I think the most important and most common pitfall for Red Pill men is their dependency on Game being used to achieve the Blue Pill idealistic goals they're convinced are possible with their Red Pill awareness.
They need to abandon those Blue Pill ideals and replace them with Red Pill goals based on their own mental point of origin.
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Can confirm. Married, dating, divorced. So many sprinkling a little alpha on their lives and wonder why it blows up in their faces in a few months
Willdaddy 8y ago
Out of curiosity, what do you look like?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
I constantly have people tell me I'm a dead ringer for Brett Favre.
Willdaddy 8y ago
Followup question: Are you actually Brett Favre?
KyfhoMyoba 8y ago
Brett Favre ain't anywhere near that smart.
PUA_Wanna_be 8y ago
First of all, thank you. 2 years ago I was a vegan SJW and your writing, straight to the point but without anger or resentment, is what helped me swallow the pill and walked me through my anger phase.
I spent nine months focusing exclusively on learning the game, hired a couple professional coaches during that time, approached thousands of women and I have nothing to show for it. I started optimising my look (style, grooming and gym) - the result is quite a lot of IOIs that go nowhere when I open my mouth. Since your writing spoke to me more than anyone's else, I was wondering whether you might have any thoughts. Do you think in this situation a man should just focus on other aspects of his life, and make do with hookers?
I'm in my 20s, I travelled more countries than most people could name, ticked off half of my Bucket List, I have hobbies I love and I'm earning so much it's ridiculous from a job I enjoy. Except for the pussy-repellent personality, my life is great. I don't have asperger syndrome or autism (or any other mental disorder, for that matter).
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
From a PUA perspective, my guess is that there is still something incongruous with the connection between your physical appeal and the sub-coms you're displaying when you approach. A lot of guys have trouble selling an approach because, unbeknownst to them, their sub-communications don't gel with their attitudes or the self-image they hope to broadcast.
I'd refer you to the RSD guys if it seems that your life is pretty together and you have a good grasp of Red Pill awareness now.
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Auvergnat 8y ago
Since rollo didn't answer.. If you've learned and practiced Game, why do you think it doesn't produce results? Are you actually applying the theory and for some reason it's not working, or do you think you don't apply it right?
PUA_Wanna_be 8y ago
I applied theory to the best of my abilities, and I don't think there was something seriously wrong with my application (except perhaps putting too much effort). I don't know why it didn't work, especially considering that I'm good looking (although a bit of a mangina back then, not so much anymore) and have interesting life. I've also met guys who have been seriously in the Game much longer (up to 10 years) and also unsuccessful.
I'm guessing that people who are successful are not fully aware of what they are doing, and so they cannot teach it. Some guys instinctively grasp those unexplained elements, others don't.
Auvergnat 8y ago
Well it's true you do have to be congruent: aligning inner and outer game, feeling as alpha as you make it look like. But even without congruence, a modicum of looks and game should get you results pretty fast. I'd suggest you detail your story (how much you approach, how many girls you've got, how do you game, etc.) on the asktrp sub. Then I'll be curious to know how Game specialists like /u/VasiliyZaitzev think of it
PUA_Wanna_be 8y ago
That's not what I said
Thanks for the suggestion. Maybe some day I will.
Lumby 8y ago
From a risk versus rewards perspective - what's your opinion about using a legally bound surrogate mother to start a family as a single male?
Would you recommend this approach for someone who wants to continue their lineage?
asktrpthrow123 8y ago
I believe you said you've mentioned that you're married. How do you keep abundance in a marriage?
How did you learn all the knowledge that you know today about women?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
A lot of my abundance mentality and soft dread originates in my career in liquor branding and promotion. I'm around beautiful women (most of whom I personally select) at promos every other weekend. So that's a lot of it, but I also keep myself in shape and I have a lot of personal friends and I'm relatively outgoing in my personal life so a lot of it comes from social proof and preselection. Not enough married guys are brave enough to push the preselection envelope with their wives, I do it as part of my work, but also when we're out socially.
All my knowledge comes from many sources, my education, my personal experiences, my (I think) unique career environment, evo-psych, evo-bio, but most importantly it comes from the millions of men I've been engaged with in the 'sphere for over 14 years now. I'm just very good at articulating what most guys are experiencing and I aggregate all of it in my concepts.
StoicCrane 8y ago
In "Preventative Medicine" you mentioned that a woman's menstration cycle is reflective if their dual sexual strategy on mass. The proliterative phase reflecting their desire for AF type of men and their Secretory/Luteal phase reflecting their desire for BB which is a much wider window compared to the former.
How can Men identify women on their proliferative phase for the sake of executing male sexual strategy more effectively? In other words are there any notable subtle cues that men should look out for when women are on their proliferative phase when they're most receptive to male sexual advances?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Yes, and in fact your own subconscious is already attuned to these cues. The trick is becoming consciously aware of them and acting accordingly.
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/downloads/Haselton_Gildersleeve_2011_Men_detect_ov.pdf
That's a good read, but there are many other cues you're already aware of. The most obvious being women's dress and ornamentation during ovulation:
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/downloads/dress_to_impress.pdf
Vocal cues:
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/downloads/ovulation_voice.pdf
Lots of good research here: http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/
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Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
That's still to be decided really. It's all about social currents and how TRP is perceived in the future. I hope so, but I will say it's not to encouraging these days.
rockymountainoysters 8y ago
Is marrying equally unwise in non-feminized countries that are light on divorce rape, as it is in feminized western countries where you can be certain no lube will be used in the process?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Non-feminized countries are rapidly disappearing. Too many guys believe that certain countries (middle eastern) are immune to the reach of the Feminine Imperative, they aren't. Even in muslim countries you'll find outreach programs and feminine-primary education systems that insert westernizing feminine primacy to the culture.
So, no. They may be light on men's divorce liabilities now, but this will shift in the coming decade.
aanarchist 8y ago
i'm a broke young guy looking to start up a company from scratch, put a product on the market that i've come up with. i've researched a few of the steps and it seems like you need a lot of investment capital to do this otherwise you have to sell out to people who have the money to do the legwork. what is the best way to go about making my own brand rather than just letting other big corporations profit off of my idea and giving me their scraps?
kevin32 8y ago
Hey Rollo, thanks for the AMA. I enjoy your essays and refer to them often.
In Good Girls, Bad Girls, you said:
Do you have an article or source that covers the underlying psychology and motivators? Because I currently see women’s behavior and rationalizations as intentional, convenient attempts to simply indulge a promiscuous lifestyle, regardless if she’s pre-wall and single, or post-wall with a provider.
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
https://therationalmale.com/2012/12/11/awareness-and-intent/
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teeelo 8y ago
I'm curious, could you spell it phonetically? Like how they were pronouncing it?
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Hypnot0ad 8y ago
I always read it as hyper-game-ee, but then I heard a friend pronounce it hi-per-gum-ee which makes more sense. Rhymes with polygamy.
teeelo 8y ago
Yes correct, the second way is best.
Tomato, tomato I suppose.
Hypergamy is prounced similar to 'Hermione' from Harry Potter!
StoicCrane 8y ago
Rollo, bought both of your books the past few months which were an absolutely refreshing to read especially in paperback. When do you intent to release a third?
Rollo-Tomassi 8y ago
Soon. I'm aiming for late November to mid December.
TomFoo 8y ago
Red Pill's own Santa Claus bearing gifts.
CreamiestCream 8y ago
Rollo, if you don't agree with all aspects of my world view you are exhibiting beta male behavior. You beta.
Battle-Scars 8y ago
Back under your bridge, Troll...