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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / The Big Question

Single mom in her thirties whose baby-daddy was eMoTiOnAlLy aBuSiVe asks The Big Question
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Typo-MAGAshiv

Posted 1y ago in The Big Question - Permalink - Locked - 6.5K Views



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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied

Thanks to @SwarmShawarma (aka Captain Euroweenie Rereg, aka The Man Of A Thousand Usernames) for the find.

I do love how at so many moments, she's almost there, almost at realizing....

LMAO.

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SwarmShawarma 1y ago

Captain Euroweenie

I have seen it twice who is this

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DextroShade 1y ago

The only hint of self-awareness she had in all that is when mused about buying a dog (and dying alone). Single mothers are cancer.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

I deserve

No. You don't.

You earn.

And you, specifically, have earned two bastard children and a mountain of emotional baggage which will ensure any man who has his shit together will steer well clear of you.

I do have to give her credit for one thing: she at least has the perspicacity to realize she'd be better off with a dog.

Not that the dog would deserve such a fate, of course, but it's time to switch things up. Cats have suffered long enough.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago

relatively smart

Compared to a brick, perhaps. Or a twig. Or a shovelhead. Or a pile of sawdust. Or a clump of mud. Or a shoe. Or a melted ice cream cone. Or an axe-handle. Or a chunk of space debris that fell off a rocket launched out of Vandenberg AFB in 1981...

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

Or a chunk of space debris that fell off a rocket launched out of Vandenberg AFB in 1981.

That is oddly specific. I saw a Peacekeeper missile launch from “Vandyland” in 1985 while I was on TDY. Fortunately it didn’t blow up, because my friends, my girlfriend, and I were so close to the LF that I couldn’t hear myself think.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago

I was gonna say 'Kapustin Yar' but I'm pretty sure that launch site wasn't active in the 80s... ah well.

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Theolympicnomad 1y ago

Why TF do you guys know so much about rockets?

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago

Haha... I will confess that I have amassed a somewhat superficial knowledge about the history of space exploration which comes from many years of reading about it. I say 'superficial' because it's a highly technical field-- I would never claim to have expertise-- but I guess for the same reason that some people are really into music albums or basketball scores: there's no clear dividing line between a strong interest and having a weird obsession.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

because they're cool as fuck.

I regularly attended FOTE shots at Vandenberg

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

The word 'respect' has changed over time. We used to reserve respect for people that had achieved great things, like climbing Everest or invented a cure for Polio. Or for more common but nonetheless wonderful things: like raising a family of 4 kids and working part time and keep a house. Or serving in the military.

But now, an ordinary woman aged 36, overweight, works an email job, has never read a book, can't even name a single philosopher, is ignorant of everything to do with culture or politics...demands 'respect'.

Respect for what?

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago Stickied

My fellow mod and good buddy @loneliness-inc wrote about this in his post Human beings and human doings.

I need to go back and reread that too. It's been a while, but I remember the comments also being really good.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Respect for "attracting" men who don't express themselves but yet are emotionally abusive but she cannot reject them because she finds them attractive.

I suppose that's a superpower of some sort.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

There are actually 2 definitions of respect in the dictionary. One is for women and one is for men.

  1. high or special regard : esteem

  2. the quality or state of being esteemed
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

There are two definitions of respect in the real world

  1. High or special regard, usually reserved for people that have made admirable achievements. Example: a man invents a cure for Malaria, his colleagues respect him.

  2. Owed by men to women simply for being. Example: An overweight woman sitting in sweat pants on a sofa, watching soap operas, demanding respect from her husband. This is a woman that doesn't even paint her own nails, but uses money that her husband earned to pay immigrants to paint them for her.
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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Yeah, what's interesting are there are many gendered words with different meaning depending on sex. It leads to a lot of communication problems between men and women.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

+1 for reiterating what so many people have forgotten (or never learned in the first place): gender is a linguistic construct - unlike sex, which is biological.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

Perimenopausal, has baggage and children from a prior relationship, and is still somehow amazed to find out that men with options other than her are exercising them.

She's already demonstrated what kind of man she prefers to open her legs for. And if you aren't that kind of man, you are just getting a preview of what kind of man she is going to cheat on you with.

And I guarantee she's reinforcing her misery by actively selecting for men that are superficially attractive enough that they know they don't have to put in any effort. Decades of social indoctrination has blinded women to how self destructively shallow they can be.

At least men will admit there is a hot/crazy matrix and note how bad trying to beat the odds can end up.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

There’s a lot to examine here.

She’s a 34-year-old woman with two small children and no husband, and she’s STILL bouncing from one exciting BadBoi(tm) to the next like it’s her job to provide thugs with access to holes.

She claims to have done a great deal of self reflection and self improvement over the years, yet she is not-so-blissfully unaware of her role in creating the crappy life she’s whining about. She also doesn’t understand her ranking in the mating market: she is the very definition of a “Low Value Woman” yet she thinks she’s entitled to a HVM who possesses a basket of traits that would repulse her if she met a man who possessed them.

For example, her dating history shows that she is exclusively attracted to men who are good-looking, emotionally unavailable, and domineering: the same kind of players who already put two babies in her and left her to raise them while they’re off banging younger women. The soft, empathetic, emotive man she claims to want would make her drier than the leeward side of the Atacama Desert. I can say that because there is no shortage of such men, and not only is she not with one, but she strongly implies that she has never even encountered one… or at least one who she found attractive.

You know what else is not attractive? Being expected to provide for the bastards “your” woman bore for another man, and treat them like they were your own. Even worse, the “lucky” guy never gets the “honeymoon” experience with her because the relationship goes straight into “parenting” mode without ever pausing at “new lover” mode where sexual bonding occurs. (Not that this woman is still capable of pair-bonding with a decent man, anyway.). On top of all that, her most attractive years are behind her. Since she didn’t mention anything about her looks in her self assessment of why she thinks men should find her desirable, we may assume that she’s not especially attractive, and is almost certainly overweight. By this point she should have realized that she’s doesn’t “deserve” (what an odd choice of words on her part) an AlphaBucks husband.

Given her lifetime of making bad decisions, it’s probably best that she finds a man who won’t hesitate to ignore her tumultuous mental and emotional storms and just tell her what to do. The problem is that men who are not sociopaths have no stomach for trying to manage a grown woman who thinks, feels, and acts like a rebellious teenager. The kind of men she’s attracted to - men who have no problem demanding strict conformity as a condition of the relationship - tend to not be very nice about it. She retcons those relationships as having been “abusive” when the inevitable breakups occur.

Oh well… maybe she’s onto something when she talks about just getting a dog and being alone. If only there had been someone to warn her about that…

Edit: I want to expand my point about the “forever” guy missing out on the part of the relationship where sexual bonding happens: the “honeymoon” period. We talk a lot about how women like her lose their ability to pair bond, but a further complicating factor is that a guy who wifes up a single mother has to start the relationship in the middle. I think it’s unseemly for a married man to talk about his sex life, but I can say that the first year of my marriage to my wife would have been a LOT more restrained if there had been a couple of kids living with us.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

By this point she should have realized that she’s doesn’t “deserve” (what an odd choice of words on her part) an AlphaBucks husband.

Their frequent use of the word "deserve" really sets me off. No one "deserves" another human.

emotionally unavailable

I'm surprised to see you use their language (aka bullshit phrase) like that.

The kind of men she’s attracted to - men who have no problem demanding strict conformity as a condition of the relationship - tend to not be very nice about it. She retcons those relationships as having been “abusive” when the inevitable breakups occur.

Don't they all?

That's why almost every time I see or hear claims of abuse, narcissism, or being controlling, I can't help but roll my eyes.

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There’s a lot to examine here.

She certainly did yammer on quite a bit, didn't she?

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I'm surprised to see you use their language (aka bullshit phrase) like that.

I was assuming that he meant that with inverted commas around the phrase.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

inverted commas

Is that what you Brits call quotation marks?

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Correct.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

This woman has simply not read the script - its a cat she needs to buy, not a dog.

SMDH

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

The script needs changed. Cats have suffered long enough.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I dunno. Cats are ass holes. They deserve each other.

Have you ever noticed that you can bend down and stroke a cat for a while, then the cat will bit you and walk off. Strange.

It's just in their nature.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Have you considered the possibility cats are assholes because they've been foisted into the role of bitter spinster mascot for so long?

Small wonder they can be testy at times, I should think.

I've never had any such trouble with any of my cats, at any rate. More to the point, and following from that, I like cats. I'm much less fond of dogs. So I'm perfectly okay with needy canine toddler stand-ins suffering in their stead.

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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

It really gives me the ick when single women refer to their 'fur babies' and cast themselves as the dog moma.

Can they not see what has happened to themselves?

A woman that takes steps to not have children, whether explicitly or subtlety (for example, by only engaging in situationships with unsuitable men until they are 'ready to settle down' ...i.e. past their prime) is basically a form of transgenderism. It's would be the same as man cutting off his penis.

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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 1y ago

Yup. They've failed their most fundamental biological function. And not due to a mixture of genetic, behavioral or environmental factors as is generally true of men who fail to reproduce, but because they've consciously chosen to fold a winning hand.

And yet, even having made such a choice, their own biology tells on them as they seek a surrogate to infantilize as an outlet for their maternal instincts.

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ObliviousDuck Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Makes me sad to think I'll never have a person that will love me with nothing but good intentions, and I'll do just happen to find them attractive.

Oh god! This is like running a triathlon and collapsing 10 meter short of the finish line.

Also, someone who can voice how they feel, instead of someone who avoids communicating. [...] complained I had to occasionally change plans [...] however, he became more and more demanding unfortunately.

Yeah... More like a single meter from the finish line.

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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Men on the emotional level of a woman have depression? Say it ain't so!!! Sounds like testosterone: estrogen imbalance if you ask me. After all, testosterone is an antidepressant and inhibits emotions.

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Justanaverageguy 1y ago

I’ve experienced women like this many times. Let me tell you what she’s not saying in her post and how these types really act. IF they ever crossed paths with a “good man” they will either friendzone him but not directly. What they’ll do is use him for dates and attention but knowing it’ll never progress to anything meaningful and if he tries to lead towards any sort of commitment she avoids the topic. They also treat their worn out pussy like it’s goddam gold. No pussy for you but for Chad? Pussy all the time. He gets to treat her like ass and get away with it but you better bend over backwards and help her with bills while you get nothing.

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JudgeSmales 1y ago

Like others here, I enjoy checking the math on these posts to gauge the level of hamstering.

She's 34 now. Says she came out of a very emotionally abusive relationship(tm) 3 years ago, so she was 31. Says the guy left her for someone 12 years younger after their kid was born. So he left her for a 19-year-old.

Mathematically possible, I suppose, but it seems like a lot of posturing for victimhood status.

EDIT: By the way, if he really did leave for a 19-year-old, she would have specifically mentioned that number, just to paint him as a creeper.

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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago

The new chick is probably 12 years younger than him… not her. She’s almost certainly younger than him, too. Let’s say he was 40 when they broke up: she would have been 31 when the new girl was 28, but it sounds so much more dramatic to say “12 years younger” as if he were a “creepy” older man taking advantage of starry-eyed naïfs.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

Hell, there are other possibilities:

Possibility 1) OP is lying about any number of things

Possibility 2) BD is younger than OP, but she conveniently leaves that out. Maybe new girl is 12 years younger than OP and thus 19, but BD is only 25.

Hell, I doubt he even left OP for new girl. He probably just got sick of her shit and broke it off, and then met new girl later, with OP only assuming she was "the other woman". I've witnessed and been through such scenarios. This is a third possibility, and I'm just spitballing.

CC: @JudgeSmales

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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

"I seem to pick the wrong kind every time" She does know what the problem is, its just the hamstering then kicks in.

There is really no hope since she has had better than she can hold and this has etched into her mind permanently. Women are the victims of the sexual revolution they pioneered. They are now free to be spoilt to the point where they cannot be satisfied by men they can hold.

I actually feel quite kindle disposed to these two. They are not entitled, so much as sad. I tend to see them more as victims of the car crash of feminism than perpetrators.

I do wonder what emotional abuse is. It could mean so many things for not happy to accepting being bullied. We have all been emotionally abused I suppose but realy was it an offense or was it that we just didn't draw our boundaries firmly enough?

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wswZtyqNGQ 1y ago

I tend to see them more as victims of the car crash of feminism than perpetrators.

The entire point of feminism is to blame all of your failures on everyone else so that you never have to grow up, mature and learn to take responsibility for your life. So blaming feminism for your failures is the most feminist thing you can do!

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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Not sure I quite agree with you there.

For a start I said I see women as victims of feminism so I was not blaming my failures on feminism.

However, let me cite an example where I see myself a a victim of feminism. I divorced a woman. I knew it would ruin me financially but I wanted to be free so much. I don't think it was fair I had to lose all my resources to someone who never worked a day during the marriage. I do blame feminism for that law. Now I am wiser and I will not re-marry but I don't think its fair to say that a man raised blue pill should be blamed entirely for not being situationally aware.

Maybe you say that is still my fault but what about the taxes I pay that go to fund women's issues. What about women retiring earlier in some countries, what about boys given less of a chance in life because girls are lifted up in some subjects, what about men who are cut out of jobs by female only shortlists to make quotas? What about the endless save arse and equality legislation we get foisted on us to get female votes? These are the victims of feminism.

Yes you have to take responsibility and you have to try and flourish in the environment you are planted in but actually feminism makes victims and to deny it is one of the blue pillest things you can do. There is a situation here. Bad things are happening. Its not always your fault when you are getting screwed over by your state and culture. To say "man up, shut up, put up" is just bollocks in some cases. Call it out. Its unfair.

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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

She does know what the problem is

No, her language is the same as if a guy said, "I seem to roll seven every time!" It's random chance, there is no personal culpability here. It's just something that "seems to happen".

Responsibility is kryptonite to women, it requires them to do something other than nebulously "improving themselves" or "focusing on myself" which never produces results other than an equally nebulous, narcissistic pride based on the reptilian hissing of female pop psychologist therapists who hate them.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

I do wonder what emotional abuse is.

Most of the time, it's just bullshit womanese for "he didn't cater to my every whim!"

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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Maybe I should just buy a dog

It would be considerate of you - to spare the rest of the world your self-centered blathering.

OTOH, single mother tears provide us with endless fuel, so carry on and write more rants!

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Her problem is, the kind of man she wants isn't going to be the one "she comes home to" like some sad puppy waiting at the door for his master to come walking in. The kind of man she wants will expect to come home to her, with a clean house, and dinner on the table ready for him.

But she's not that kind of woman. She's still pretending to be a man, and because of that, will never find a man.

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Justanaverageguy 1y ago

She’s forever the side chick but doesn’t get it and probably never will

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