Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
The only thing that she writes here that I can agree with is the final bit:
I am sure that other women have been in similar boats
You got that right lady.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Also her:
Has a profile with her tits and ass hanging out on Tinder. A hookup app.
Is mystified that men using the app are immediately overtly sexual so as to not over-invest for no payout.
Posts on plebbit: "DAE USE SKANKBAIT AND ONLY CATCH CATFISH? I WANT FLOUNDER! WAHH!"
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
If she wears the uniform of a whore, she'll get treated like one. You're exactly right.
The ones that concern me are the chameleons that pretend they're "good girls" until you find out otherwise.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
I know the type - at the bar Saturday night, in church Sunday morning, has tattoos, but only in places where she has to take her clothes off for you to see them. Loves tight pants and low cut shirts even in office casual, with a crucifix on display precisely right above her cleavage.
Pretends she's all sweet and innocent but ends up becoming a single mom after chasing a guy that is in and out of jail for failure to pay child support to his baby mommas, none of whom he was faithful to.
And of course none of this is her fault and "it just happened".
Women like that are the reason any man with a brain never ever stops vetting, even after 10 or 20 years of good behavior from her. And you see them all the time being churned out by lower and middle class families in small Midwest towns where they can't just openly be sluts.
And yeah their Tinder profiles would look right at home on OnlyFans, because they know their parents don't see them on there.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Spot-on, especially the crucifix dangling down her low-cut top between those titties. I mean fuck, what is that shit even.
I know, its a girl broadcasting she wants to fuck, but talk about mixed signals.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
The ambiguity of such is the point. Just enough titillation to shut your brain off and engage your dick, enough plausible deniability to make you feel conflicted and not immediately slot her in the fuckmeat only category where she belongs.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
I would love for her to specifically describe the "quality men" who ought to be fawning over her.
Like, I know they'd be earning multiples of millions of dollars, but how many multiples? Ten? Fifteen? I can only guess.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
I ran across a video yesterday wherein a guy was asking random women how much money a man should make. One said, "Eight figures."
Per year.
The threshold for eight figures is $10,000,000, and she specifically said that she doesn't want to date athletes (any more).
Leaving aside the fact that all the single, marriage-minded, business-oriented men who make at least $10,000,000 a year in business could fit in a hotel conference room... she was not the kind of woman any of those men would choose to wife up.
She backed off a bit when she admitted that eight figures would be "ideal," but she clearly has her sights far too high. Can she get p&d'd by an NBA player? Maybe. Can she marry the CEO of a Fortune 50 company?
lolnope
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4mo ago
Next debate in social studies across universities: is men's consent be really necessary for marriage? And what constitutes consent, exactly?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
In all seriousness, the requirement for male "consent" doesn't exist under US law. Not only are men required to support women and children they don't want, but boys as young as 12 have been held liable for paying child support to the adult women who raped them.
Virtually all spousal support is paid by men to women who broke the marriage contract.
Although millions of men have been forced into the involuntary servitude of military service - and tens (perhaps hundreds) of thousands of them died - no American woman has ever been compelled to spend even one hour in the military.
Every man here is a de facto non-custodial father in that we pay women to raise children we never see... millions of them, in fact.
I could go on.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Fucking hell, that is depressing as fuck.
I knew some of that, but not all.
Happy New Year? lol it just gets crazier...
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I've seen some of those too.
There's one with an absolute landwhale screaming into the mic that she needs a man to make $500,000 a year.
The world is insane. Sometimes I just want a cryo-pod or something to go into stasis for about 25 years.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
Was she a "fat fuckin' TEN"?
No-Stress-Cat 4mo ago
A fat fuckin' TEN TONS
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
We're talking big enough to have a FUPA stuffed into some jeans that must've used high-tensile steel rivets to keep itself from bursting apart like a bad retreaded tire on the highway.
Just utterly disgusting.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
But very vividly-described.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
These chicks don't know what numbers are or how they relate to income or, in fact, how one gets a decent job. And seeing how none of them have ever worked a real job themselves, the ignorance is understandable, but not remotely forgivable.
They see these rap videos in giant mansions, where the main character is flashing around piles of unearned wealth and jumping into swimming pools of cash like Scrooge McDuck, and they think it's a documentary.
My ex-fiancee wasn't at that level of life-ignorance, but I would be working 9 or 10 hour shifts and occasionally refusing to indulge her most stupid impulse-shopping urges of the week. Her response to that reality was to advise me to ignore my budget figures, take on credit card debt to obtain more shiny rocks which she can wear on her body ("It's totally normal for people to do that!"), then "quit my job and find a better one" so that I "don't have to work so hard." And she would really insist that her advice was the right path for me to follow. I just needed to pull my head out of my ass and open my eyes.
I know that most schools don't teach financial literacy, but my God. You have to be traipsing around pink clouds of cotton candy all day long in order to think that's even within the ballpark of the real world.
The fact that she thought such sub-moronic, fantasy-land figments were way smarter than my stubborn insistence on dealing with goods & services & deadlines &, yanno, ACTUAL STUFF... that speaks volumes to the kinds of ill-prepared adults these chicks can be.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
Agreed. I like to think of it similar to working out. When I'm working out regularly, I find myself eating better, because I look at a cookie and mentally think about how much time on the treadmill it will take to burn it off and suddenly I lose my appetite for it.
Until you start working out and realizing how much work (in time and sweat) it takes to burn off 300 calories, calorie counts are just numbers, abstract things that you know are important but have no context to really understand them.
Money is similar. When you're working, you see a purse that costs $1000 and can calculate that it will take you 2 weeks of work (after taxes) to pay for it, and decide to pass. But if you're not, because someone else (usually a man) is expected to pick up the bill, dollars just become abstract figures and have no real meaning.
Hell if I could eat cookies and someone else could spend the time in the gym burning it off? I'd stop caring about calories too!
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
She wasn't even interested in hearing about the abstractions.
"Do you wanna see how much I earn each two weeks, hon?"
"No, no, no..."
"Seriously, let me show you my payslip versus how much you're demanding. Let me dig it out-"
"...no, no, no..."
"It's not made of poison, ok? I think you should see this. So, this number here? Multiply this by two, is what gets put into my account each month--"
"...no, no, no, no, no..."
It would be like you being turned-off by the idea of calories even being in the cookies.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4mo ago
You know what would have been better? Taking a massive loan, quitting your job and traveling across the world together all your life.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
Yeah, I really should've done that. Just wave my magic plastic card around and POOF! We're livin' large, tra-la-la.
I got her to shut up, but I didn't do anything so jejune or silly as to explain why credit card debt is terrible to accumulate, why it's inadvisable to live beyond one's means, the demands of working in the IT sector, or why it's good to occasionally put money in the bank for a rainy day or cover an unexpected expense.
Instead, I looked her right in the eye and said "YOU are giving ME financial advice?? YOU, who cannot afford to put a nickel into a gumball machine, is telling ME how to do better? Are you a comedian?? Are you a professional joke-writer now? Because that is HILARIOUS. That is a LAUGH RIOT right there. That is the funniest thing I have heard all year."
I got called an "Asshole," of course but I couldn't resist rubbing it in.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
Real talk, mockery and humiliation was probably more effective at getting the point across than any well reasoned and calm explanation that would have gone in one ear and out the other because it didn't make her feel.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4mo ago
All the encouragement in the world is not going to compensate for desperation.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4mo ago
Except for all those times people told me I was being loud, insuferable, self-absorbed and rude. But those don't count - those men were below me. And those women were not really my friends, they were just jealous.
Now, WAATG (and rich) M?
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
In a way I feel sorry for women. People are rarely honest with women about their flaws unless there's no way to avoid telling them (especially if they're pretty).
So if a woman who is, "Very pretty" (her words) is getting constant feedback from multiple sources that she's "intimidating," in all likelihood she is a COLOSSAL BITCH. Her response to that feedback is, "That's their problem, not mine."
Yeah... that's the right attitude... /eyeroll
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Sometimes, yes. But given that their power and opportunity is "front loaded" in their lives, my sympathy evaporates like a raindrop on the desert playa.
They're all complicit in perpetuating this bullshit. If she doesn't get it, then she isn't introspective enough. I would even hazard a guess that any of us pre-redpill still had an INKLING that there was something wrong with the world, we just didn't know how to articulate it yet.
I don't see that with women usually. The ones that have a clue aren't going down the gilded-whore-path anyway, so they have fulfilling lives, not posting about how 'intimidating' men find them.
SpiritualEnema Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I have never, even once in my life been intimidated by a woman. I have repeatedly been disgusted and repelled at the way some of these women act. She needs to get her adjectives right.
Also, speaking of adjectives, you don’t get to define how “very pretty” you are; that is for men to do. Have you guys seen the study that shows that women will lie and encourage their perceived sexual competition to make physical changes that they perceive as less attractive; therein making themselves more comparatively attractive?
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I’ve heard about that study- was on Chris Williamson’s podcast
I’ve made the mistake of putting that idea to a couple of women I know. Tentatively
One is a rabid feminist (yes I know - and it will suck for her two sons) and she started yammering on about patriarchal beauty standards so I dropped it. She scoffed at the suggestion it was subconscious by basically saying that was unprovable. Thing was I didn’t go into that convo armed. I loosely knew about the theory but didn’t know about the study or anything like that. Not that is would have made any difference with this one
Another is someone who was legit asking my hair length preference (because she was after my approval). She bristled at this competition idea even though the point is that it’s sub conscious. Apparently preference for long hair is the typical male answer but more women say short hair - even women who are into women apparently. So in theory ruling out that competition point
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 4mo ago
My wife and I are now at the age where women start to get "stylish but sensible" hairstyles. She floated the idea of cutting her hair short and in response I might have floated the idea of her living with her neice.
She's never brought it up again.
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Yeah. I knew I didn’t like the short hair. But when catching up with this person in person recently I couldn’t get over how much of a negative impact it has. I first met them with long hair and it literally takes a point off if not two. Which seems really harsh. With super hot women it probably has negligible impact. And some really can just pull it off. Neither is the case here. (And super hot women aren’t into me anyway!)
It’s not something you do in your 20s or 30s as a woman unless you are also courting interest from women
SwarmShawarma 4mo ago
That research was about women advising 'friends' to cut hair short to look good.
I shared that info with my FwB and since I use at internal joke. I spot unattractive chick in short hair, turn around looking at her head to toe and say:
I have also branched it to
Options are endless: hair + shoes, hair + flab, hair + colour + food
inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Yep. Weirdly this example goes all the way back to Friends where Rachel convinces Ross’s girlfriend to cut her hair to sabotage her
Tell a feminist this and they will say “well that was written by men”. Failing to spot that men know what men like. So they discount it as a potential commentary on the behaviour of women because it’s linked to “patriarchal beauty standards”. It’s wild the mental gymnastics feminists will go through to blame men / the patriarchy for everything
Bill Burr has a bit where he applies the logic to the body positivity movement. It’s always women complimenting fat women
SwarmShawarma 4mo ago
https://youtu.be/hhmUrtwnoog
You could say that it was only trolling but then what is not. Feminism is called massive shit test. You could say they should have kicked her out earlier but then no one would see extent of crazy.
Most of the girls on the panel do not understand that this is what they will be like eventually and crazy will come for them as well.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4mo ago
Agreed. Intimidating is a word women like this use to describe themselves to give them an ego boost saying how they are just too awesome and amazing to be appreciated by men. Because that is an easier thing to tell yourself rather than the fact that you have a bitchy personality.
And she is at least pretty enough to get a good amount of male attention. Though given it is from men she does not want, she is most likely overselling herself.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
No man is intimidated by any woman.
That's not how we roll. Women need to learn some new adjectives. Choose from the following list:
Appalled. Disgusted. Bored. Repelled. Nauseated. Sickened. Wearied. Queasy. Grossed out. Depressed.
That should be ample choice.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
Oh sure. You're just too afraid to admit that you're intimidated.
Also "intimidating": clogged basement sinks, sun-dried roadkill on desert roads and the contents of "biohazard" yellow sacks that pour out the loading docks of hospitals and get handled by people in special suits.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Can you imagine be as delusional as a post wall perimenopausal normie woman on the decline, that actually thinks, A C T U A L L Y T H I N K S that men are 'intimidated' by them rather than just disinterested?
I mean there's coping and then there's delusional thinking. That level of delusion is basically the same as mental illness. Women are literally mentally ill, by the very definition of mental illness. Being mentally ill means that you are having difficulty in discerning reality.
Think about that for a minute.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
There is frequently a hint of projection in women's rejections, too.
Viz: The high-income woman who says men are "intimidated by my success" when in reality, she's externalizing the disgust she feels about men who are less-successful. Or the woman who claims "short men are insecure about their height", when she's exactly the type who'd give them reason to feel that way.
It's not dissimilar to how the most vocal homophobes might be closet cases, with the bluster being a redirection of the feuding demons inside themselves.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
a good point, and well written.
When I think about your point more, I realise that post wall women that use the 'intimidated' cope, are actually projecting, but in a very particular way.
They are simply not used to meeting men that are disinterested in them. They have spent their entire lives being put on a pedestal, and then after the wall, they themselves are very intimidated by meeting men that don't. Don't open doors for them, don't chat them up, don't go for the pussy pass.
They are intimidated by men that don't simp for them.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 4mo ago
I'm rather pleased that the term "Karen" has gained traction. It was long overdue.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I see Karen behaviour everywhere. I see Karens demanding special treatment at airports, restaurants etc, and it warms my heart to see them being ignored. It's like they are presenting a pussy pass, the guy looks at it and says
"Madame, this pussy pass is out of date. It says 'best before Sept 2009'. Next please"
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4mo ago
Either she is getting told some different words or she is being mislead when she gets the message that she is "intimidating." The vast majority of women never are intimidating in the slightest. Some women may be so physically attractive that many men will think they will most likely not have a real chance, but that is not really in the "intimidating" category. Especially not if this woman gets plenty of messages from men (regardless of if she is interested in those men).
Usually, if a woman is attractive and has a lot going for her in other good characteristics, men will be inspired to shoot their shot, regardless of if they think they have a real chance. Which we can see in this post with how many messages she gets. What is probably going on is that she has some major issue that repels the very type of man she wants away, and not due to being intimidating. Sometimes it is an abrasive personality (i.e. being a bitch). Other times it is her demonstrating that she is too much of a ho to become a candidate for a wife. Whatever it is exactly, it is not because men are intimidated by her. It is because she is a bad prospect.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
And a bad enough prospect that inspiring an erection is still not enough for men to overlook it.
Which is saying something, because men build and maintain cities and entire nations and wage war for the same just to improve their chances of getting their dicks wet.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
I can read so much between the lines here. So many little clues that this woman is a total write off. The most prominent have already been addressed ('very pretty woman here' for example, or the idea that men are intimidated (huge red flag).
The one I want to draw attention to is this:
"Because of who I am as a person"
W.t. actual fuck.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Women - when friends say that men might be intimidated by you, what they mean is that men can see from 50 paces that you are a toxic cunt.
The reason why they don't give you more detail? It's because you are toxic cunt. Toxic cunts are really bad at taking feedback, so we have learnt not to give feedback to toxic cunts.
It's a bit complicated for a woman to understand, so just remember: if a friend tells you you are intimidating, it just means you're a toxic cunt.
Or more simply put;
Intimidating = toxic cunt.
Write it down. Because being a toxic cunt, its hard to remember things like that.
That's all for now.
ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4mo ago
This right here. Her friends are lying to her. Why? Because people do frequently shoot the messenger, so why would you want to be one, especially when you know she's not going to accept the truth anyway.
Guys give each other honest advice all the time because we actually accept it and act on it to improve. And more often than not, we even thank the guy that told us we're being a bonehead.
Women generally do not. And especially toxic women like this. It's much easier to tell a woman like this that it's guys' problem that they can't accept her awesomeness, then it is to tell her the truth that she's not all that and the men she wants have better options than to put up with her bullshit.
sean_karaya 4mo ago
How is it possible for any person to be this blatantly arrogant, and call herself "pretty", "talented" etc by themslves.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
A lifetime of it not being socially acceptable to tell them the truth.