Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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throwawaycactus6012 1y ago
I can certainly feel for the guy. The video brought me back to a few of my own harsh lessons in life. I became aware of the "friendzone" before that term was even coined.
I think there was once a time when boys and girls, as well as men and women, were somewhat socially segregated. It didn't mean they couldn't be friends, but it was different. But when more and more women were entering the workplace, becoming career women, and working alongside men, there was a parallel idea that men and women could just be friends - just like men can be friends - without any sexual or romantic complications. It's just like "hangin' out with the bros." That notion became more and more prevalent. Indeed, sometimes women might say "I think of you as a brother."
I think there's an expectation upon men that, there are times and places when men are just supposed to forget or ignore that they're dealing with a woman. A constant refrain one might hear is "What does being a woman have to do with it?" in whatever given context one might see. I'm no biologist, but it seems to me that if a man spends enough time with a woman, it's entirely possible that he may develop feelings and attraction for her. It does happen, as it has happened for thousands of years. (It doesn't always turn out that way, but it's a common theme just the same.)
I don't blame this guy. It is somewhat difficult to adjust to the past half-century of bullshit society has had to contend with.
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"A woman may very well form a friendship with a man, but for this to endure, it must be assisted by a little physical antipathy." -Nietzsche
yaxir 8mo ago
i really don't want to come across as that guy,
but Lou Salome clearly came across as a very conniving and manipulative woman
she used men to learn the art of psychoanalysis and she was very clever, that is how she made her career
i feel very sad for poor Nietzsche, who fell for such a clever and promiscuous woman
Lou Salome was the old times equivalent of a very clever, game playing woman who lead men on and used them for their talent / knowledge
it took utmost patience not to write the b word
mallokrano 1y ago
The sad part about this is that she won't even care about his outburst. She will just move on to the next friendzone and act like he never existed in the first place. She doesn't care about him and never did, he was just a source of resources without having to reciprocate. She will keep banging Chad and Tyrone and then complaining about no good men, and then will have the audacity to label him as just another bad man because he couldn't "accept her friendship" and "expected sex" and thus demean his character even further. This is why men need to learn the friendzone is a waste of time. If she wants to be your friend, move on, cause that is her way of saying she will never see you as a valid relationship. She will never reciprocate. The only winning move is to not play these games.
DextroShade 1y ago
Never, EVER be friends with a woman unless it is strictly a business relationship. If she isn't putting out or helping me make money she has no place in my life.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Trying to friend your way into a relationship with a woman is akin to when a woman tries to fuck her way into a relationship with a man.
_Imperator_Augustus_ 1y ago
One word for this comment : Astute.
Take a bow sir.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
This is clearly a guy that "just doesn't get it" and I don't say that to mock him. The guy's catharsis in this video is the final breaking point (or close to it) of years of being lied to, probably even by the same girl in the video.
This guy is probably riding through life getting bad dating/women advice from everyone around him and is genuinely struggling to figure out how to interact with women as a result of it.
This guy probably had a full storyline in his head about this woman and she probably just shattered it into a million pieces by abruptly delivering the truth to him.
I really feel for these guys, it's not that they are not trying, it's that they are putting in tremendous efforts that are absolutely doomed to fail because everyone else has failed them in understanding the right way to do things
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
"Men don't red pill men. Women red pill men."
-Some Fucking Genius
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
This is a pretty good summary of learning TRP
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I don’t mock him. It’s just sad. He’s just a guy who wants any form of interaction with women, so he’s willing to accept a situation where he’ll never be a priority for a woman.
I don’t even think most women diabolically use the friend zone. They just don’t understand how lonely it can get in there.
This guy is staring loneliness in the face and he’s acting out emotionally. He should be sympathized with, not mocked.
yaxir 8mo ago
some women do
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Women can't understand it for two reasons:
They will never experience what it feels like to be alone (until MAYBE later in life, and that is only if they fail to adjust their standards).
These two things create a system where women are unaware of how men feel (or that we even have feelings) until it directly affects them. Until a man's problems form an outward expression that affects women, they're oblivious to them.
This situation is one example. Another one is the recent brouhaha over black men getting passports. Black women are enraged that black men are leaving the country to get away from them, nevermind that the reasons we are doing so are directly related to the problems we've been telling them about for decades. Now that our problems (and the solution to them) affects women, they are noticing.
yaxir 8mo ago
i had a question,
if most black men opt for other girls - what will black women do ?
are they left with no options ?
just an amusing question
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 8mo ago
Get ready, I'm going in. I'll answer your questions then go into detail.
Date the leftovers in our community, become lesbians, or (as my mom has found out) spend the rest of your life alone.
If you think about it, black women already express a general preference for the men at the bottom of the dating pool. Black men such as myself aren't "thug" enough for them. Nevermind that I grew up rough and purposely made choices to come up out of that, because I have an education, confidence, dress like an adult, and speak English I am suddenly "too white" for most of these women. I'm not bitter about it, I'm just mad that I get lumped in the "black men ain't shit" conversation because of their experiences with the men they attract and choose (who aren't shit.)
Oh they will always have options for dick. One Tyrone can service an entire town of dumb bitches. Their options for relationships however, are dismal.
But they (western women in general) aren't bright enough to see the difference between men that want to fuck them and men that want to marry them. Moreover, they aren't willing to do the work to be wife material so they, in essence, become the very root of their own problems.
Amusing, if you're not looking at the widespread effects. Imagine an broad demographic of people purposely choosing losers. Do you know what that does?
Given that men become what they need to be to secure sex, it disincentives men from achievement. What's the point of working hard, getting a job, getting an education, and being a winner when you don't get rewarded for it? What's the point when you're punished for it by a preponderance of women?
Remember, when men are faced with an unfavorable sexual environment, they have three options:
Change the environment to suit them (which you cannot do unless you have buy in from all the men, otherwise the scabs will take over)
Change yourself to suit the environment (hence the rise of the fuckboy)
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I do recall meeting quite a few Black and Indian dudes overseas with Asian wives/gfs.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup, why deal with these low tier women when you can get on a plane and do much, much better? There’s plenty of options out there, and it’s never been easier to explore them.
And then men, down on their luck with finding a solid woman, talk to their coworker that tells them about how he flew to Colombia and spent months with a wonderful woman, proposed and brought her back to America, and is quite happy with her. So of course, more of these men will go search elsewhere. My girl is Colombian and there’s a pretty big, constant theme with women in her family: there’s a LOT of them who are matched up with an older, more established man. Whether they’re white American guys or Latinos. We get to upgrade, too, women can deal with it.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I am convinced that the insulting and shaming against black men who leave the country is rooted in how once we realize we have options, we don't tolerate shitty behavior anymore.
For generations black women had a damn near monopoly on black men and, like all monopolies, they used it as an excuse to behave badly and force us to accept whatever they doled out. This recent (well, recent to black women) trend of the upper tier of black men fucking off to other countries has them in crisis mode.
Overnight, they are witnessing their monopoly end and they're faced with the hard reality that no other group of men is trying to marry them. They were already staring down the barrel of a shortage of black man (a 2 million difference) and now they have to consider that the ones left are the Pookies and Ray'trons (ironically, the ones whose failures they project onto all black men).
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Kevin Samuels referred to it as “the color purple” bullshit. Basically this manifestation of the black feminist that the black man could do no right. Basically, if a white man tried to talk about black men like that, he’d be (rightly) torn apart. But black women, that’s totally okay.
What I find funny is there already was plenty of example of black men going out of race to find a woman, far more than black women. I think KS said that there was 2 million more black men married than black women in America (and if you estimate that there’s about 30 million black Americans of adult age, that’s a big gap). But the fact that high tier black men were off marrying latinas or white girls wasn’t enough to highlight to those women that got off bashing black men that said men didn’t have to accept the crap that they were being served. But some black men continued to, because they preferred to be in relationships with black women.
But hey, now you can find a black woman all over Africa. Or maybe Guyana or Suriname. Or Trinidad. Or the Dominican Republic. And so on. No reason to deal with a man hater, or a woman that wouldn’t have given you a second glance if not for the fact that the Ray Ray that knocked her up is now serving 5-10 and she’s “always wanted a good man”.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I prefer black women. Black men of my status tend to have greater group loyalty than low-value black men.
And you know what I've learned?
There is a world full of black women who know how to act right.
The best relationships I've been in were with a Kenyan woman (before the feminism got her) and a Tica of African descent.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yup. Tends to be true that as men climb the socioeconomic ladder, they become more race conscious. They want their kids to, well, look like them.
I’m obv cool with interracial dating. I do it. But I understand if people don’t want to do it and would prefer a more homogenous family.
It is kind of funny to watch the mental gymnastics, though. I randomly was chatting for awhile with some Nigerian girl. On one hand, strong independent don’t need no man. On the other hand, white man fetish, constant worry about her socioeconomic situation, would frequently send revealing pictures of herself to me. And was like 14 years younger (I’m in my mid 30’s). Reminds me that for many of these women, being strong and independent is a LARP. So much better to just avoid women who don’t understand the value of a man.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If you scratch a strong independent woman, and a sad single woman bleeds.
I swear, without fail, you get two shots of tequila in ANY of these women and they will open up the floodgates about their loneliness. Once you see them like that, you never look at them with desire again.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, desperation is a massive turn off. Not saying I want a woman to be as cocky as Chad or Tyrone, but the idea of being a “savior” is not for me. Not to mention, in my dating history, the most miserable women by far were over educated “career women” in their late 30’s; particularly ones who went into lower paying, female-dominated fields.
The good thing about being a man is that, if we piss away 20 years obsessing about education and career, we often come out on the other side rich, or at least never worried about money. Can still date. Women? Nope, you’re doomed.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Where have all the good men gone? Asia, Latin America, E. Europe, Africa. What's funny is when these modern women go to those places they make the same bad choices of men and end up supporting some handsome surfer bum. Check out the movie Bali Cowboys.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
I’d actually imagine that their choice in men is worse. At least when in the USA, they’re exposed to high income and responsible men whom they may be drawn to, if even for selfish reasons.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, they see a rich Asian guy and are like "ew". They see a Bali surfer beach bum and it's tingles everywhere.
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lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
The only emotion men are "allowed" to show is rage. That wasn't rage, so the hive-mind has to mock him. I feel bad for the guy, but hopefully he'll learn from this. If you look at how he almost certainly felt just 24 hours before this video was made, you wouldn't have been able to cram a red pill into his mouth with a jaws of life... yet she just effortlessly gave him a giant red pill as a suppository. Now we wait to see if he absorbs it.
I don't know who said it first, but I'll quote whoever it was, "Men don't red-pill men. Women do."
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If you interact with women long enough, you'll either swallow the red pill or you'll get it as a suppository.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
My ass hurts.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 1y ago
And everyone wonders where the rage comes from. SMDH
Treat men like objects or beasts of burden without emotions and then everyone is "surprised Pikachu face" when those emotions are loosed.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Covert contracts, based on a lifetime of being lied to.
yaxir 8mo ago
what are covert contracts
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 8mo ago
Heh, this post is 11 months old. Diving deep, aren't you? Haha
Anyway, I get into it a bit in another comment further in, but covert contracts are when you have a contract of sorts in your head that if you do something, someone else will do something you want. Examples: "if I buy her dinner, she'll want to sleep with me", "if I agree to overtime every weekend, my boss will promote me", or "if I earn a decent paycheck, my wife will always be ready and eager to fuck me".
People don't always realize they're doing this; it's usually done at the subconscious level.
They're unhealthy because they tend to lead to resentment and even anger when the other person doesn't "do their part" despite not being privy to the "contract" (due to its being covert).
As far as I know, the term was coined by Dr. Robert Glover in his book "No More Mr. NiceGuy", which I highly recommend.
yaxir 8mo ago
yep, always looking to learn !
will def read, i need to become a better read - currently very shitty at reading books
thank you for defining this concept quite smoothly !
chadinthemaking69 1y ago
Usually is a lot of guys friendships with a girl. “If I stay friends with her she will eventually like me… right?” “Maybe I’ll get to hit one day…”
I did this shit in high school. It sucks for everyone involved.
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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Yeah, I’m not iron clad that men and women can’t be friends (but one thing for sure is that the older you become, the less likely it is that you can “be friends” with a member of the opposite sex without their being sexual tension; the girl I consider my female friend is someone I’ve known since she was 15 and way too young to be thinking of that way).
But being friends with a woman, thinking you’ll be able to white knight for her someday? Completely beta. Imagine being romantically interested in a woman, all the while Chad is getting his man juice all over her face. Sad thing is, I’m sure many of us have been there, because we were told by feminist media that this is the “correct” way to approach women. Everyone get in line, like good little betas, and wait for the woman to choose you.
This is obviously BS. It’s why I began to start escalating physical contact in dates, because you could always tell where you stand based on her reaction. Give a gentle touch on a non-sexual body part like her hand or shoulder. Does she react badly? If not, go for the arm around her shoulder. Does she get stiff? probably a bad sign. Does she lean into it? Probably a good sign. If you’re acting like you’re her friend and not someone who is interested in her for more, and willing to take the lead in those matters, guess how she’s going to treat you?
And as I said before, it’s not like the woman is diabolical. She’s presented with this person who is supportive of her and kind. Why would she reject his company? It’s like having a new girl friend, but nicer!
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Listening to women about dating advice is fucking retarded period.
All women will uphold the code to ensure the optimal female mating strategy.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Absolutely not.
By their very nature, they are something created in one's own head, and the other party has no knowledge of them.
There is nothing valid about that at all.
By their very definition, they aren't real. Again, they are a creation in one's own mind.
However, given the web of lies and gynocentric conditioning we all receive as we grow up, I can hardly blame a guy for not knowing any better and acting according to everything he's been taught.
That man in the video? His frustration and anguish are valid. The covert contract on which they're based is not.
fumbor 1y ago
You learn the hard way