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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Off theme - Allowed with mod approval

Cautionary Tale for all potential would be "stepdads"
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mimiczx

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[deleted] 4y ago

I personally hope that this young witches husband wakes up very fast and divorces her ass because she is a self entered worthless POS!

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Cheveyo 4y ago

Anyone wanna bet her mother told her bio-father something in order to get him to cancel?

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mustangfrank 3y ago

I bet mother and ex are back together, in the sheets. No ring on it, for Daddy chad gets to play that game.

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Mission-Document5257 4y ago

Women are fucked in the head.

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rockdude625 4y ago

Woe to whoever married her, Brace for impact buddy

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our_purring_majesty 4y ago

Moment of silence for husband of this witch. Hope he realizes the mess he got himself into and run for the hills before they got kids

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DoubleGunzChippa 4y ago

I have two (half) sisters from my mothers first marriage, and my father adopted them both. One of my sisters is fiercely loyal to my father (almost to a fault), and the other isn't.

YMMV

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Artichoke19 4y ago

Wow. What an ungrateful c*nt.

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NuclearTheology 4y ago

I wonder how much money did Step-Dad put up for the wedding only for him to have her throw a tantrum and get rejected like that?

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Initial-Ad463 4y ago

Probably about $20k to $40k in USA. Maybe even more. Anyway, being a step father is a thankless thing. I would never do that.

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Electrical_Coat_8714 4y ago

Women marrying in white is so shameful.

Everything about the marriage ceremony used to mean something. All the tradition and rituals have been replaced with wine and bridal presents.

For some guy she's gonna divorce in a years time

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PolukranosWordEater 4y ago

It's not just stepdads it's also the real dad's that get screwed.

This was over at MGTOW and I'll repeat myself. As a father who's been pushed out of my daughter's life by every way imaginable, I can sympathize with the "bio dad". I'm been fenced off from my daughter her whole life and if I'm asked to walk her down the isle I'm not sure i would do it. It's just a meaningless formality, a "to do" wedding checklist where I'll be paraded around for a few minutes only to be shelved and forgotten again. Excuse me for not being thrilled at that idea. Oh jeez, now I'm family when I've been left to fend for myself for years, not allowed to see her, or tuck her in bed every night, or do any iota more than the bare minimum the parenting plan allows me to do. Yet it's me who'll get all the hate, not the conniving woman who tore apart my family and created this whole mess to begin with for some cheap dick. I get sick and tired of this shit.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Odd, I was actually thinking to myself as I read this post that this sort of situation might have been why "bio-dad" cancelled.

I've known many dads who have gone through getting forced out of their kids' lives (except paying, of course!) only to be slandered as though they willingly just up and abandoned them.

It's so fucked up. You have my sympathy.

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plz_say_sike 4y ago

Women willingly alienate their ex-husband from their kids through the corrupt family courts & then in the same breath call those ex-husbands “deadbeat dads” for victim points.

We usually see a watered down version of this on many of the profiles on this sub when the single moms call their baby daddies “abusive”

It’s a sad state where you have men that never get to see their kids & kids growing up thinking their fathers hate them. Growing up with that chip on their shoulder leads them to find other male figures. Sadly in inner city neighborhoods, this usually is in the form of gang leaders.

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[deleted] 4y ago

This is another reason we don't date single moms.

If there's no husband, one of two situations exists:

  1. She chose a poor mate, in which case bailing her out is not our responsibility.

  2. She chose a good mate and, because she's a harridan, was so horrible that - despite having a child - he had to go. In this case, she deserves to be alone and any subsequent man will be subject to even worse treatment
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WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 4y ago

I would maybe, possibly, consider dating a single mom if the husband died and I could be sure that she would never have separated from him otherwise.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Now you're competing with the memory of a dead guy, whom she'll forever lionize.

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DrDog09 4y ago

So this dude pays for, pampers, agonizes over a kid not his and the wench does not even have the decency to say 'thank you' but select someone else and keep their trap shut? And I would have loved to know, on such short notice exactly where was she to find a sub? At rent-a-dad?

But I would observe that this may be more a generational thing than based on sex. Right up front, as a Boomer, I'll say it; a bad Boomer is a flaming a$$hole. They knew it as did everyone else. But they knew it. But the Millenials and Gen Z, its different. I personally think that technology has stunted them. The natural recognition that there is someone else present, a living, breathing person is not there. The social interaction is living behind a LCD screen. Most of the world is a NPC to alot of these kids.

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[deleted] 4y ago

That's unfortunately true.

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baldestpianoman 4y ago

And then people judge me when I tell them I will never date a single mom

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

Everytime my buddies wives try and set me up with one of there friends I ask if they have kids. They stopped setting me up with them bc I don’t do anything but casually date and bang them.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Sound judgment.

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Warm_Investigator_55 4y ago

If women are becoming single mothers by choice, when can we stop giving single mothers free government money and tax ride offs? Ever? Please? Make it less expensive to be childless than being an irresponsible, easy woman? Please?

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

Thank LBJ for that shit…

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Disciple_Of_Cheesus 4y ago

And here we have yet another example illustrating why you should never get involved with a single mother. Step-fathers are not appreciated; they are only taken for granted.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

I worked with a man who married a single mom. She had 2 young boys. He paid for her RN degree. One year later, she dumped him and stuck him with $5,000 in credit card debt. That was 25 years ago, so that would be about $15,000 today. She worked in a prison as a RN, and started hanging out with the ex-cons who were released i.e. bikers, gangbangers, thugs, etc. True story, nothing made up.

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

I believe you! Women prison workers falling in love with violent criminals is very common. I call them 'Shawskank Redemption'.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Love it.

Customized Junior Hamster Analyst flair for you, for this and many other comments of yours.

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

THANKS so much! This sub is a lifesaver.

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[deleted] 4y ago

I've never met my bio father, and don't really want to, but there is something special about blood that you can't fake. For instance, I learned a few years ago that he (bio father) had the exact same profession as I, and same weird taste in music, that kind of thing. There are lots of reasons blood makes people "click" who haven't ever met.

I respect the heck out of married couples who adopt orphans, and know a few... but if you become a father to get with a single mom you are *asking* for these problems. It will always be a surrogate fatherhood, even if you are a "good" dad.

The guy who raised me is a good man, but I don't really feel any ties to him now. There is no blood, my mother divorce raped him long ago and moved on, and he was an idiot in the first place to marry her. I do respect that he was "there" for me growing up but that's about it.

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manfrom-nantucket 4y ago

Gents, never and I mean never take on another man's children. They are not your business and they are not your burden.

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Pie_sky 4y ago

Ungrateful bitch

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mimiczx 4y ago

TLDR - After raising step-daughter from youth and her bio-dad not being a factor in her life. Step-dad offered to walk step-daughter down the isle after Bio Dad's last minute cancelation. Step-daughter lashes out and goes full "you're not my real dad".

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

Could you imagine how she is going to ruin her husband? Wow hope that guy got a prenup.

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Alarmed_Mechanic_403 4y ago

What a phenomenal c*nt that step-daughter is.

Just more prove that telling us to "man-up" is a shaming tactic to make us more exploitable. The only way he could "man-up" after that is if he kicked that useless child out of his life. Simple as that.

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[deleted] 4y ago

So sad

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Her new husband is in for an absolute party

Absolutely! No self awareness, self centered, entitled, rude, shallow and ungrateful, and these are her good points. Her husband is in for a bad life.

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Podgorica_64 4y ago

Assuming this story is true, at the end of the day the step dad still has his own daughter (18F), so in a few years when she gets married, he can happily walk her down the aisle. Plus he’s got his two sons as well. If I was him, I would rub that in her face.

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[deleted] 4y ago

who manned up

I wouldn't say he "manned up" that's shaming language for any man not willing to raise another man's kid.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

See same story different woman.

https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/1fl2xd/my\_stepdaughter\_wants\_her\_real\_dad\_to\_give\_her/

This is in the recommended reading at WAATGM.

My step-daughter will be getting married on August 3rd. The wedding planning has consumed most of her and her mother's life (I say her mother because we aren't married, though we've lived together for 10 years) for the past six months.

My step-daughter graduated last December from University. I paid for her to go to college, though it was a state school, it still ran $40K. She does not have a job and has been living with us for the duration of her college career and since her graduation. I also bought her a car to get back and forth from school when she finished high school.

From time to time her deadbeat father would pop into her life and she would fawn all over him. Although he has not contributed a cent to her education or paid any child support, though that is my girlfriend's fault as c.s. was not part of the settlement, she still loves him and wants him in her life. He stays long enough to break her heart by skipping town and breaking some promise that he made her.

The wedding venue holds 250 people max. I gave them a list of 20 people that I wanted invited, you know, since I was paying for everything. They told me that was no problem and they'd take care of it. So I let these people know they'd be getting an invite and they should save the date. Saturday, I saw one of my friends on this list at the golf course and asked if he was coming. He told me that he wasn't invited. He told me that he got an announcement, but not an invitation. He had it in his back seat (along with probably six months of mail) and showed it to me. Sure enough, it was just an announcement, and my name was nowhere on it. It had her dad's name and her mom's name and not mine.

This led to a pretty big fight with my GF, as I found out that NONE of my list of twenty "made the cut" for the final guest list because "250 people is very tight." I was pissed, but not a hell of a lot I could do because the important people in my life had already been offended. My GF said "if some people didn't rsvp yes, I might be able to get a couple people in." But that is an ultimate slap in the face in my opinion. So, I was boiling on Saturday.

Yesterday, we had a Sunday dinner with the future in-law's family and us and a surprise guest, the "Real Dad." At this little dinner my step-daughter announced that her "Real Dad" was going to be able to make it to her wedding and that now he'd be able to give her away. This was greeted with a chorus of "Oh how great" and "How wonderful"s.

I don't think I have ever felt so angry and so disrespected. I was shaking. I took a few seconds to gather my composure, because I honestly wasn't sure if I would cry or start throwing punches or both. Once I was sure I'd be able to speak I got up from my chair and said I'd like to make a toast. I can't remember exactly what I said but the gist of it was this:

"I'd like to make a toast." The sound of spoons against glasses ring in my years. "It has been my great pleasure to be a part of this family for the past ten years." Awe, how sweet. "At this point in my life I feel I owe a debt of gratitude to bride and groom, because they have opened my eyes to something very important." Confident smiles exchanged. "They have showed me that my position in this family is not what I once thought it was." And now a glimmer of confusion and shock begins to spread on the faces in the room. "Though I once thought of myself as the patriarch or godfather of the family, commanding great respect and sought out for help in times of need, it seems instead that I hold the position of an ATM, good for a stream of money, but not much else. As I have been replaced as host, both on the invitations and in the ceremony, I am resigning my financial duties as host to my successor, Real Dad. So cheers to the happy couple and the path they have chosen." I finished my drink. "You all can let yourselves out."

Is this selfish? I'm supposed to shell out 40 - 50 grand for a wedding that I can't invite anyone to? That I am not a part of? I'm so done with this crap. I'm done with my step-daughter, I'm done with my GF. I transferred the money out of our joint account last night. (she has not had a job since she moved in with me) This morning I called all the vendors I had written checks to for deposits to refund my money. At present it looks like I'll lose around 1500, for the venue, but the other vendors have been great about refunding.

TLDR: You want your "REAL DAD" to be on the invitation, to give you away and to sit at the head table, fine, your "REAL DAD" can pay for everything too.

EDIT: The immediate aftermath was tantrum and people sitting there mumbling while not actually saying anything to me, but to each other. After much yelling with the GF about me being selfish, I spent the night in my home office and no one knocked on my door, not once. Today's aftermath is kind of depressing for me. GF brought me Bride's wedding planner to show me how much work I was ruining. I thumbed through it, found a page in the music section for Father / Daughter dances. All of the songs were catered to Real Dad's taste. So I thought they were just being disrespectful, but now I'm feeling like they never really gave a crap at all, especially since the menu included two ingredients I'm allergic to, that actually made me laugh. Either way, I'm glad to be done, returned the planner and asked her when she and bride could move out. Also, I never promised to pay for the wedding. I offered them the use of my home when they were sure it was going to be small, but other than that, all I've heard is how it's the Bride's family that should pay, so, let it be the bride's family then, aka, not me.

EDIT: June 9th 1:15 am. Girlfriend and Bride are now moved out. They are moving in with the groom. It was very hard not to be petty with some of the "belongings" they took with them, but it's done and I switched out the locks and now it's time for a brew. I can't believe how popular this story got, but I feel good to be given support by so many. If I find out what happens with the wedding, I will let you know, but I can't guarantee that I will put in the effort to find out. From what I've heard they are trying to "scale things back" and get his parents to help out. GF burned bridges when I found out she tried to write herself a check on our joint account the day after the unpleasantness. By then I had already moved money, so I guess I'm a bigger ass than her, but I could feel it coming. That's all. Thanks.

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Plazmatron44 3y ago

Well there you have it, don't do anything for women in this day and age.

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upsidedownbackwards 4y ago

My sister in law HATED her bio dad for 99% of the time I knew her. Her stepdad is a stand up guy, a teacher, treated her like his princess even though she shared no DNA with him.

When my sister in law divorced my brother he let her come back home and live with him. But suddenly she took a HUGE interest in her bio dad and started abandoning her kid with my brother for weeks at a time to go see him 3 hours away. The guy is absolute trash and hasn't changed a bit. But he's having some health issues and now he's the most important person in her life. I don't get it at all.

My mother was a RAGING alcoholic for most of my time growing up. She ended up driving super trashed one night, flipped her car a few times, scalped herself and had to be Medevaced by helicopter to the hospital. I didn't even visit her once while she was there and moved 300 miles away a few days later being glad there was some distance between us. Why would anyone try to cling to a toxic family member who shows zero chance of improving to be a decent person?

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mustangfrank 4y ago

My parents were nothing to brag about, either. If C is average, they were a solid D. I couldn't count on them for shit. They are the reason I had poor grades in college and took me so long to get a degree. If they were alive today, I would think long and hard about letting them see their grandchildren.

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[deleted] 4y ago

"it seems instead that I hold the position of an ATM, good for a stream of money, but not much else"

That's a tough Red Pill to swallow and a tough to time to swallow it.

Oh, and since you never married the Mom you were never a stepdad. You were an ATM and unfortunately it took you 10 years to figure it out...

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Something that all women should be aware of in today’s world, guys fear these scenarios, as we get into our late 20s and beyond, we hear stories like these. Every guy, even if he doesn’t have firsthand experience with such drastic examples, knows of / has experienced the following example :1. He meets a girl with a kid, she promises dad is out of the picture. She claims he is no threat 2. She says biodad was a bum, that SHE broke up with him 3. Guy gets serious with her, they move in together 3. Biodad suddenly reappears, upset at the notion of his kid(s) living with another man 4. Mom then tells the whole story, biodad broke her heart, but seeing him around their kids, she “realizes he deserves another chance and that her children need their real father”. Stepdad then gets kicked to the curb.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Good for homie for having a strong finish…However, he got such slovenly behavior in part because he subsidized it.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

There must have been red flags and flashing red lights that he ignored of past incidences for years. There had to have been things in the past that happened that he forgave or ignored because he was in love. I will bet he was abused his entire time with her, for how else would she treat him so poorly concerning the wedding. He wanted 20 of his friends to attend, and somehow they never got the invitation AND his name was nowhere to be found on the invitation, plus the menu included two ingredients he was allergic to. What wife would not know that?

He reminds me of a friend who gets used by women all the time. Below is a text he sent me in December 2, 2020.

"I paid off my home and that pissed her off because she wanted me to buy her a car. I gave her the Infinity.

She wanted a new car. A Mercedes. So she is really pissed."

BTW No sex with this woman and him.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Yeah, unless his GF and Step-Daughter suddenly had brain tumors, this isn’t sudden behavior. He doted on her/them, they were low character people , by subsiding them, he made it worse. Also, he is in part to blame by choosing such a cunt as a GF.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

by subsiding them, he was their protector, in his mind.

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[deleted] 4y ago

Kids want time. In the end they want to be loved by their parents. No amount of love, money and material things will change that. No Step Dad will ever be a real Dad.

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LaLa_Land543 4y ago

That’s a very generalized statement. In the OP, the step dad raised her since she was 9 (she’s in mid-20’s now) when her dad refused to be in her life except for very recent months. Her step is more of a real dad than the bio dad in this case.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

I don't like that you were down voted. You are wrong. She never valued her step-dad. If she did, she would not have acted in the way she did. To me, she is a POS. If I were the step-dad, she would be dead to me.

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[deleted] 4y ago

No. In her mind the stepdad will never be her real dad as evidenced by her behavior. It will always be "You are not my real Dad!"

I feel bad for the stepdad, he saw everything like you did. "But I raised her for 20 years..."

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LaLa_Land543 4y ago

Ah I see what you’re saying. It being her perception to refuse to accept him.

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danielnogo 4y ago

That's just not true, my sister 100% sees my dad as her real dad, and she's adopted from another family altogether. I think kids are perfectly able to see their stepdad as just straight up dad, but the well cannot be poisoned by people meddling in the relationship.

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[deleted] 4y ago

Adopted kids are an entirely different situation. I don't know your sister's situation so I cannot comment. What I am speaking of is raising someone else's kids when that guy is still in the picture, even if it is sporadic. Kids never get over the abandonment by their real mom/dad and crave a relationship with them. No step parent can fill that void. Doesn't mean they can't do a great job but in the end it always comes back to "you are not my real Mom/Dad"

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danielnogo 4y ago

My sister was ten when adopted and she had a women that took care of her for her whole life before she was adopted

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[deleted] 4y ago

Again, I don't know the situation, why she adopted at ten etc. Not my business. My point is when you replace a parent because of divorce it is entirely different.

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Past-Difficulty6785 4y ago

Can't tell if serious statement or not. If you do everything a father does and act in that capacity in spite of a lack of blood relation, I'd say that that makes you not just a real dad but a real good one.

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[deleted] 4y ago

Maybe if the bio Dad is dead but if he is still around you will never be looked at as a "real" Dad. Only a sucker raises another man's kid and expect that kid to grateful.

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[deleted] 4y ago

No, it makes you a sucker.

Congratulations, you put all your energy and resources into another man's child. You bailed out the mother, you covered for an irresponsible lesser man, and you did it all at the expense of your legacy.

Good work hero

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

Agreed don’t get involved with single moms unless maybe if your a single dad… unfortunately this dude learned a life long lesson… and good luck groom should be fun having your MIL living with you after your marriage hahaha I give that new marriage 3 years tops…

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DoTheSnoopyDance 4y ago

But what does it make you if you do all that and at the end, she only wants her biological dad who did none of that and she treats you as the man in the story was treated?

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Past-Difficulty6785 4y ago

Oh, it makes you a sucker as somebody else said. Not disagreeing with that. I just hate this horse shit ghetto trash talk about some mythical difference between a father and a dad. There's no difference. The man that raised you, well or poorly, is your dad/father. I'm sure lots of biological fathers raised some real pieces of shit as well so the blood relation has no bearing as near as I can tell.

My guess in this case is that daddy would have put down rules except that his useless wife wouldn't allow them to be enforced. He paid for everything but somehow has no say in anything. A sucker, indeed but still the only father she'll ever know.

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Low_Entrepreneur_927 4y ago

Responsibility without Authority is Slavery.

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[deleted] 4y ago

https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec05/stepfamily

There is a difference.

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DoTheSnoopyDance 4y ago

Yes, and I agree this man may have been a great father to the kid, but I think the bigger picture is to protect men from the heavy heartbreak and betrayal this man just feel as a result of this.

I don’t dispute his credentials as a great man who acted as a true father to someone who doesn’t view him that way.

It’s really sad because it’s possible for some men in some situations to be a great father to non fathers child and be recognized for it, but the risk is too great that you’ll give your life to a family and be nothing to them.

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ThisIsUrIAmUr 4y ago

It's [removed] now. Did that just happen after you posted it I wonder?

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biccat 4y ago

http://www.removeddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/1fl2xd/my_stepdaughter_wants_her_real_dad_to_give_her/

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mustangfrank 4y ago

The link will not work, but the story is still there. I will post it here

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mustangfrank 4y ago

What are you writing about?

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mustangfrank 4y ago

The link will not work, but the story is still there. I will post it here

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ThisIsUrIAmUr 4y ago

The link you posted in your comment that starts with "See same story different woman."

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mustangfrank 4y ago

The link will not work, but the story is still there. I will post it here

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WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 4y ago

Do these women ever take even a second to reflect on how they act? And I have no doubt that thread was filled with “YAAAAS QUEEEEN” and “don’t worry girl you’re safe and you’re beautiful” bullshit.

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12-inch-LP-record 4y ago

This is about my best friends brother.

He married a woman with a One-year-old daughter born out of wedlock who had never once met her real father. Stepdad adopted her, gave her his name, and raised her as his own. The only father she ever knew And he always treated her as if she were his.. She went to an expensive private college that stepdad was paying 50 grand a year out-of-pocket for. End of freshman year, one or two weeks before the end of second semester, she called home and asked to be picked up, she didn’t want to finish. He said no, take your finals, finish up the year, then you can do whatever you want—transfer, work, take time off, whatever. Just finish. She wasn’t willing to do that, so she called her aunt, mom’s sister, to pick her up. So her aunt pulled her out of school and secreted her away in her house. Finals weren’t taken and she failed everything that semester. $25,000 down the drain. Stepdad was livid. When he complained to his wife about what her sister had done and how all that money was wasted, his wife’s answer was “she’s not your real daughter.“ That was the thanks he got. He was crushed. They are still married, but as I understand, things haven’t been the same since. He now has little to do with the stepdaughter.

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beenthere789 4y ago

Real daughters can be enough of a pain in the ass and super bitches.

I can't even imagine what step daughters who can cop the pseudo excuse "you ain't my real dad" must be like...and now that I am single I have absolutely no intention of finding out.

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12-inch-LP-record 4y ago

It was the wife that he saved from single parenthood with an out of wedlock child, a child whom he raised as his own who gave him that. Sure, a kid might say that but his wife? His wife!

My friend, his brother had told him not to marry her because of the kid. It took him 18-19 years but he finally came around admitted that my friend was right and he shouldn’t have been so quick to marry her.

He has 2 other kids together with his wife that are really great kids and now get his full attention. They are the main reason he remained married after that incident. With them, I’m sure he doesn’t totally regret his marriage. The step daughter has married and is now another man’s problem.

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Ancient-Length8844 4y ago

That's heartbreaking. You love this human being only to be shitted on by everyone. In the end, all you were was a source of income.

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mimiczx 4y ago

These stories are the worst but I'm glad we live in an age where this information can be shared so we have the knowledge to make the right decisions.

Where as in the past you wouldn't hear about this and be destined to a trial and error type of learning.

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JGFishe 4y ago

If he adopted her, she IS his real daughter

Biology > paperwork

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

She wouldn’t be my real wife after that…

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mustangfrank 4y ago

I worked with a man who married a single mom. She had 2 young boys. He paid for her RN degree. One year later, she dumped him and stuck him with $5,000 in credit card debt. That was 25 years ago, so that would be about $15,000 today. She worked in a prison as a RN, and started hanging out with the ex-cons who were released i.e. bikers, gangbangers, thugs, etc. True story, nothing made up.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

She: Mom, you don't know him like I do. He says he loves me, so I has to be true. I would not lie to me.

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retal1ator 4y ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I don't have respect for men that raise someone's else child. Unless it is an orphan and it has been raised since he or she was very little, maybe.

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[deleted] 4y ago

Only widows get a pass

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

Nah I see where you coming from and I used to think that way to, but you still will not really even have a day bc the mom can pull some bs like “she’s my daughter/son”

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Cultistofthewheel 4y ago

The only way, if you even want to do it, is if the bio dad is dead. Anything else is a shitshow

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LaLa_Land543 4y ago

I saw this original post and she got absolutely ROASTED in the comments. Everyone was on the poor step-dad’s side thankfully.

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mimiczx 4y ago

Well it was probably the most blatant case of being an outright jerk. You can't even fabricate a credible 2 sides argument. They closed the thread she was getting put in blast so hard.

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kyledontcare 4y ago

Step-father = the most thankless job in the universe.

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cyrusol 4y ago

She ranted more about her wedding than about how she grew up.

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Griever114 4y ago

That shows how much of a spoiled brat she is.

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jd46249 4y ago

If I was one of the step siblings, I’d cut this bitch off. Clearly she doesn’t see my bio dad as her dad so she must not see us (siblings) as her real siblings.

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mimiczx 4y ago

She clearly doesn't she "basically" considers them family.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

If I were him, the new bride would be dead to me. I would never talk to her again.

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Rinku_No_Mae 4y ago

Well, actually, SHE is in the wrong side. Instead of accepting the one guy (step-father) who was fighting for her, she insisted on having the Bio, even when this one wasn't there for her for almost anything (probably). But yeah, let's pin point the fault against someone else, meanwhile she disguises herself as the victim (a very dumb and irrational one) here.

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plainnsimpleforever 4y ago

Don't know what is a bigger red-flag; that she told her stepdad to piss off, or the fact that she feels no apology is necessary.

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1st10Amendments 4y ago

That’s a lady who won’t be in the will… or even on the Christmas card list.

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chuckutim 4y ago

NEVER raise another man's ejaculation!

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The-truth-hurts1 4y ago

Got temporary banned from that sub for making a comment on this…

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plz_say_sike 4y ago

You’re not missing out on anything. I’ll give you the verdict on every post every made on that sub:

OP: I, a man did something wrong to a woman, AITA? Top comment: Huge YTA. Get therapy!!

OP: I, a woman did something wrong to a man, AITA? Top comment: NTA, you had your reasons.

OP: I did something wrong to someone of the same gender, AITA? Top comment: ESH. Get therapy!

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

This guy knows reddit. I have been sorely tempted to post in other places but beside the don't brigade policy we have, I realized like you outlined, that you are literally wasting your time trying to post contrarian opinions in an echo chamber.

When FDS was new and those morons gave the "keep one guy on the side for fucking and string marriage material guy along and no sex with him" advice, I wrote the many reasons on why that is just a really bad idea. Just before I hit save, I hit cancel instead. Nobody over there is going to listen or care. Plus harsh truths they would rather bury and censor than deal with it...just like the rest of reddit.

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Boss4life12 4y ago

Oh they wwould have banned you Lool. Also it is an automatic ban if you join this sub

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mustangfrank 3y ago

I got banned at FDS for asking a question.

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Never ever ever become a stepparent. Why?

  1. You're cucking yourself - your resources are going to another man's seed. Every dollar, every minute is spent securing someone else's (usually a lesser man's) genetic legacy instead of growing your own.

  2. The child will never ever love you as much as the bio dad. If bio dad popped up tonight, you would be fucking gone.

  3. You're a bailout, nothing more. You think the mom wouldn't get back with the dad if he offered? You're only there to help with the kid and that's only so long as bio dad doesn't change his mind. Your entire relationship is contingent on another man deciding if he wants to come back into the picture.

  4. You lower your value. By choosing to raise another man's kids, you place yourself beneath that other man, beneath that woman. You turn yourself into a damn simp and you will never be worthy of respect.

Just don't fucking do it. They're single moms for a reason and should remain so.

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Thatshygurl 4y ago

What makes me mad is how she goes onto describe him like a surrogate father, and that they were very close. However describes his suggestion to walk her down the isle as out of left field? Maybe if he had just married the mom recently, but by her own description they were very close. This girl has issues, I feel for the man who has married her.

Not even in retrospect does she how she is in the wrong.

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boomershack 4y ago

It's a fookin shambles lads.

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RealMcGonzo 4y ago

Sounds like a bridezilla of the worst sort.

Wow. Bridezilla passes spellcheck.

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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4y ago

No matter what people think, biology makes a huge difference in how we view relationships. So it makes sense that the daughter would want her biological father to be walking her down the aisle as she would naturally seek his love and approval. The thing is, when her biological dad chose not to be there for the wedding day, her step father did nothing wrong when he made the offer to her. It is not as if he had no awareness of the situation or did not care about the daughter he accepted as his own, she simply directed her anger at the man who did not wrong her.

This particular scenario is not the usual form where the step-dad is rejected under the idea that he is "not my real dad," but this is a reality for many step-dads. Even if a man is willing to accept the children that are not biologically his, he understands that at any moment he can get that same rejection even if he is willing to be a father figure. That is not an outcome any man wants. So with that additional hurdle that comes with dating/marrying single mother/divorcees, more men are going to be against dating single mothers than just the ones who simply find the idea of it leaving a bad taste in their mouths.

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WINDEX_DRINKER 4y ago

I was just frustrated and he had suggested something totally out of leftfield.

How the fuck is it leftfield????

I'm honestly glad she got the roasting that she thoroughly deserves (If this is even real but who knows) from that thread, but jfc.

I'm trying to emotionally cleanse my pallet right now and think about the one step-son that adopted his step-father's last name.

But that's a son.

How does a woman grow up like this and still behave as a tween at 25? Just being spoiled rotten?

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Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago

It’s very simple women tend to not age mentally past teen years…

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DragonCumBucket 4y ago

How dare he?

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Those old sayings are true, that's why they are old sayings. "Blood is thicker than water." Now I don't care what propaganda they try to fed us, the simple matter is that the kid is NOT YOUR BLOOD. Bio-mechanics is God. DNA is ingrained in out very primordial instinct. The OP is for all the guys out there who think of wifing up a single mother. You were warned.

I remember one of the saddest stories of this poor guy that wifed up a single mother of a new born and 2 year old girls. He really loved those girls like they were his own flesh and blood. Besides feeding, clothing, and putting a roof over their heads; he went into excruciating detail of how he was trying to be worlds greatest Dad.

He was there for every major milestone a child has. Their first tooth, first day of school, taught them how to ride a bike, helped them with their homework. He was there when they were tired, or scared. He was in the audience cheering them on at plays and sports. He drove them to their practices and paid money for all their extracurricular activities. He was their Santa that stayed up late to put candy in their socks. got them gifts and a tree to put them under. He was the one that made sure they had a happy birthday with cake, ice cream and presents. He was with them all night when they were sick. He was the one that took them to the doctors visits. He took his family on awesome vacations that made memories that last for a lifetime.

Meanwhile, Real Chad Dad managed to blow into town a few times a year to visit. Usually on the major holidays or sometimes on their birthdays. He was mostly M.I.A.

Now the girls are 14 and 16. They both put a Facebook montage for Father's Day composed of them and Real Chad Dad using pics of his once a year visits. Along with that are comments of him being the Worlds Greatest Dad and how there is a special connection between a father and a daughter and how much they loved him

NOT ONE FUCKING MENTION of the man that took care of them all their lives. I could feel his tears through my computer screen. He was completely heartbroken and destroyed. He wasted all his love and resources on the product of Chad's seed and they still loved their Real Chad Dad more.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

I've removed your comment for referring to that man as a "simp".

That poor dude based his actions on a lifetime of cultural conditioning and gynocentric bullshit, and we're not going to use shaming language against him for it.

His story is a great cautionary tale for other men.

Edit your comment to remove all instances of shaming that man, reply to this comment once done, and I'll traditions REAPPROVE (damn phone) that comment.

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Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Edit complete For future reference, I wont mind if you edited the comments to comply with the rules. I worry not about credit on an anonymous forum as long as the ideals are seen and it can stop JUST ONE MAN from making a life ruining mistake

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Comment reapproved.

Mods can't edit other peoples' comments; we can only remove them and have the option to let the commenter know.

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obsessedowl 4y ago

Just to be historically accurate, the full quote is: “ The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” which means the opposite

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

That's a bit of historical revisionism.

Instances of the proverb "blood is thicker than water" dating back several centuries can be found in both English and German.

No such phrasing as what you said has been found dating back further than a couple of charlatans trying to revise its meaning.

From Wikipedia (yeah, I know):

Two modern commentators, author Albert Jack and Messianic Rabbi Richard Pustelniak, claim that the original meaning of the expression was that the ties between people who have made a blood covenant (or have shed blood together in battle) were stronger than ties formed by "the water of the womb", thus "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". Neither of the authors cite any sources to support their claim.

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[deleted] 4y ago

I've had an extremely lengthy debate over this quote and the modern versions of both of them are only about 10-15 years difference in time.

In Arabic culture, the phrase is 'blood is thicker than milk' meaning bonds forged by blood are stronger than the ties of the same mother.

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TheSigilStone 4y ago

The other side of the coin in this situation would be if the daughter appreciated and loved her step-dad but the mom would be a total bitch. I've heard stories of men being rung out by single moms and taking care of her kids just to be demeaned in a toxic relationship. Being a step-dad is just a lose-lose situation.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

At least the mom in this scenario told her daughter that she owes Fred an apology.

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Past-Difficulty6785 4y ago

Congratulations. You didn't have to but you raised a snake. Well done!

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One-Move 4y ago

Look just think historically, for 80000 years her kids where an asset, more hands to run the farm to hunt. Of of course also hid authority. The last 100 years they turned into a liability costs with no authority and no return on investment

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SicilianOmega 4y ago

Apparently not in all countries. I saw some interview with an African woman who had 5 starving kids. "Why do you keep having kids if you know they're going to starve?" asks the interviewer. "If I don't have kids, who's going to do all this farm work?" responded the woman.

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GrannyLesbian 4y ago

Do not take care of another man's pleasure! male or female. They all want their biological parent in all of their most special moments.

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Griever114 4y ago

Lol she was an alpha widow by her bio-dad. Beta Billy step dad came in and raised her but she is still yearning for chad-dad.

Can't make this shit up

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Snoo33176 4y ago

Hope the step-dad wasn't paying anything for the wedding.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

While this is off theme content, we are allowing this in the weekend as an exception. This does not mean that all such off theme content will be allowed and it is recommended that you reach out via modmail to check first.

As always, keep your discussion here. Do not look for the OP, do not ask for the OP and do not message the OP. We do not want anyone pointing fingers at us. We will ban anyone who does not comply with these rules.

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kevin32 Ambassador for NiceGuys™ 4y ago

And for future reference u/mimiczx, we'd appreciate better formatting.

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mimiczx 4y ago

Cheers!

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

lol

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mimiczx 4y ago

In a way to link it back to the theme I would say this shows how the female mind works.

The hardest validation is what matters. Her biological father had no impact in her life but she held him in the highest regard. While not even considering the 15+ years of good her step father did. Like how in dating the alpha will do little to nothing and reap the best while the beta often has to pay full price and more while MAYBE getting a fraction of the benefits.

We often hear with dating you rarely get back what you put in and this story is another cautionary tale of this.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Like how in dating the alpha will do little to nothing and reap the best while the beta often has to pay full price and more while MAYBE getting a fraction of the benefits.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo true.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago

Even still, this does not fit the theme of women asking "Where are all the good men". Sure, we can make connections to the phenomenon because of the behavior at display and the mentality that leads to it, but it is still off theme and will need to be approved by mods before it can be posted here.

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mimiczx 4y ago

Fair enough! Thanks again.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Oh no! Someone downvoted you and took a precious pretend internet point!

Don't worry, I put one back.

That was close!

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