Edit: yes, we're aware that our child sub, /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre, got banned in the last few hours.
We're appealing it.
The reason the admins gave is "/r/MGTOW ban evasion" which is obviously a mistake. The sub is 4 years old, so obviously wasn't created as a ban evasion sub for /r/MGTOW, and many of its mods, endorsed members, and users are married, and so cannot be MGTOW by definition.
I strongly urge everyone to create an account at our alternate forum, and also check out the backup child sub at the same place.
edit 2, 8/6/2021:
The admins have responded to our appeal of the banning of the child sub, and said they'll look into it and have an answer early next week.
As many of you already know, both the subreddits /r/MGTOW and /r/MGTOW2 got banned today.
For the members here who overlapped with one or both of those, my condolences on the loss of your forum or forums. As a married guy, I rarely looked at either one, but what little I saw looked like decent camaraderie. It's a shame that men now have fewer places to discuss what matters to them with each other.
For the miggies who are seeking new places and landed here:
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First of all, welcome.
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be sure to familiarize yourselves with the rules on the sidebar. We're unique among manosphere subreddits in many ways. We strictly enforce those rules, which is why our discussions remain both humorous and constructive, and also why we're not quarantined or banned. Depending on the severity of a violation (or multiple violations), rulebreakers might get warned, temp banned, or permanently banned. read the rules, and the links contained therein.
- Check out the alternate site trp.red. There's already a MGTOW tribe there, and /u/RedPillSchool has said that he'll stay hands off. That might actually be more to your liking, since you can say whatever you want.

Sintar07 4y ago
Well, one can only hope that the moderates on MGTOW2 learned a valuable lesson about compromising themselves for their enemies in the vain hope that they will show mercy; they won't. Beyond that, I'd echo the others who say "be proactive and backup your communities off site," because the problem wasn't ever that they broke this or that specific rule, the problem was that they offended leftist and feminist sensibilities, and as leftists and feminists get more extreme, more moderates will seem extreme and dangerous to them.
The only bright point in all this, really, is that I firmly believe they are ramping up these attacks not only because they are becoming more extreme, but also because they are becoming scared. These subs gained steam as more saw through the veil and realized the extremities of poor female behavior and feminism every day, and those feminist spaces that awaken men are not being banned, which means that men only see it the more clearly, and when they go looking for somebody to talk to it about, they find that scared feminists have preemptively tried to prevent them, which won't actually prevent them from talking about it, but will drive them even farther into our camps before they even find them and give our movements the appeal of martyrdom.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
We've had and been pushing our backup forum for well over a year now.
AquaPiranha 4y ago
We should all move to Ruqqus as Reddit will inevitably ban this place soon.
https://ruqqus.com/+MGTOW
https://ruqqus.com/+MensRights
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
You MGTOW folks can.
For our part, we'll be at our alternate forum at forums.red, as well as here to help men unplug as long as we can.
ifrankenstein 4y ago
Sad, really. I've seen MUCH more controversial stuff posted here than I ever saw over there. Still, the overlying tone was a little too much for my taste.
Bluecherrysoft 4y ago
It is normal to get banned for speaking the truth on the internet, it finally all make sense to me.
iammr_lunatic 4y ago
I dont support Mgtow at all but I really think it should've stayed. Everyone should have the right to their opinions, irrespective of what the opinion is. The banning of mgtow shows free speech is now 100% dead on this site and all because of a money hungry CEO. u/Typo-MAGAshiv you guys should start planning an alternative because this one unfortunately won't last long too.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
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BlackendLight 4y ago
Trp.red is where we set up shop I guess
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Allow me to mansplain it a bit.
1) we're going to comply with reddit's rules so we can remain unbanned and unquarantined for as long as possible.
2) this is to try to reach as many men as possible to help them unplug from the gynocentric matrix. We can't help them if we're not here.
3) we plan to follow the rules so well, that if reddit does ban this sub, there will be no denying that they just have it in for places that look out for men's interests.
You obviously don't know this sub very well. While we moderate ours much better than /r/MGTOW did theirs (unsure about /r/MGTOW2), many of our members overlap theirs. Also, we are a Red Pill sub. Our focus isn't so much on strategy, as it is helping men unplug and have a laugh while doing so.
Do you have an account at trp.red and forums.red yet?
jkcadmium 4y ago
Leftist network bans conservative, masculist forum. News at 11. Unfortunately I can’t sympathize with people who invest heavily in a countercurrent to the very platform they are on. It’s a well-known fact Reddit is leftist, and even more so then conservatives, leftists are authoritarians. Authoritarian systems are best interacted with using fire and forget pointers to other alternatives like trp.red etc. Don’t get invested, expect to be banned.
imapotato99 4y ago
The ironic part is that MGTOW never 'recruited' men into the lifestyle. Women always have, and when forums like TwoX and FDS and askwomen are still up spewing hate towards men it just INCREASES men seeing the true nature of women. That and censorship towards men will only shine a bright light towards men to leave the world behind. Those bitter and lonely women are after this sub and theredpill next
WhereProgressIsMade 4y ago
Yep. The thing that woke me up was a “Christian” marriage book.
The pastor wrote half for men and it was all about the things he should do for his wife. The pastors wife wrote the other half for women and there was not a single thing about what a wife should do for her husband. It was all about what she should expect her husband to do for her and how to get him to do it.
I was so mad I threw it away and avoided all women who had any signs of an attitude like that pastor’s wife. I doubt that was her goal, haha!
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This one is on then list to get get banned. So is r/redpill, r/pussypassdenied, and even r/mensrights. Pretty much any manosphere/conservative subreddits are gonna get banned simply because we’re men.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
u/typo-magashiv, Please add a link to the trp forums child sub as well.
https://www.forums.red/i/whereallthegoodmenare
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Done
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
Thank you.
Griever114 4y ago
Mother. Fucking. Assholes. I knew it was going to happen but didn't think they had the fucking balls to do it. Cucks and cunts... all of them.
Southerndude62 4y ago
Western speech of liberty is dead because of the fat and ugly land whale feminists. Head over to ruqqus everyone!
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
The SJW scums want to suppress KNOWLEDGE for men.
DoctorFauciPHD 4y ago
Yes
OwenWentFullMGTOW 4y ago
Women rly don't like it when men freely talk to each other without a woman to moderate the discussion.
Web 2.0 is defined by social media. And social networks are defined by female participation. And women rly don't like free speech.
CarHungry 4y ago
Why take those subs down and keep subs like FDS up, which is about as, or even more toxic and sexist than the redpill was?
Rimeheart 4y ago
I miss watch people die... not all of the internet needs to be for kids...
lukrtv 4y ago
"There's difference between hate speech and speech that you hate"
They only move those guys to other spaces on the internet
baldestpianoman 4y ago
well red pill and this one is going next so yeah if this two are banned im leaving reddit forever
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
Remember r/The_Wall? Even that got banned which just showed the truth through pictures.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
It was poorly moderated, and identities were not protected, leading to harassment.
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That's what they going to say about this sub as well no matter how good you moderate it.
Katowice_to_gdansk 4y ago
I'm surprised this sub has lasted as long as it has. Seems like the sort of sub to be shit canned instantly by the soy millennials at reddit
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
A) no direct linking to other subreddits
B) no inter-sub drama, including inciting brigading. If you see content there that violates reddit's TOS, report it directly to the reddit admins using reddit.com/report.
UnfunnyTroll 4y ago
So this is how liberty dies...
Roshambo_USMC 4y ago
With thunderthighs jazz hands
thejynxed 4y ago
WhatMixedFeelings 4y ago
Damn it! I always thought MGTOW was complimentary to this sub, because they allowed criticism of weak men who perpetuate modern women’s promiscuity, entitlement, and lack of accountability. It wasn’t all woman bashing; there was constructive criticism of both sexes and advice for men to find fulfillment beyond relationships. MGTOW was actually the reason I started this account.
All my favorite subs get banned
CommentingOnVoat 4y ago
Voat.xyz and poal.co more open. Lots of spicy debate, but some of you might not be ready for the level of truth.
Hopefully this sub doesn't go. The comedy here always cheered me up.
EastEndMontrealer1 4y ago
While it is sad to see so much censorship, however it will be good to get a load of new perspectives on this subreddit.
MakaleaIsMyDogsName 4y ago
Do you think this also applies to red pill content? My buddy assumes his content has been shadowbanned on YouTube.
amightyusername 4y ago
It's happened to Better Bachelor. Remind that YouTube can manually set the trending page, thus them shadowbanning a channel is nothing unexpected.
Join MGTOW and related subs on Ruqqus (open source and against censorship news aggregator site): https://ruqqus.com/+MGTOW
MakaleaIsMyDogsName 4y ago
No way Joker has been shadowbanned?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
He still shows up on my front page
lookoutbelow60 4y ago
Is it possible to just block anyone that is involved with the MGTOW ban?
jamaicanroach 4y ago
Just got permanently banned from AHS because I asked if they were going to go after the toxic women's subreddits as well. I feel like that's a legit question, but rather than have that dialogue, they'd rather silence those who don't fall into lockstep with the ideology that only men are toxic.
Edited to remove direct link.
Stuka_Ju87 4y ago
AHS is full of pedophiles. They are not going to answer your legit question.
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I got banned too. Don't feel bad.
To others who see this comment: there's no harm in fighting. There's no shame in fighting.
I will continue to call out the misandrist hypocrisy on Reddit until they IP ban me.
jamaicanroach 4y ago
I don't, but as an update, FDS banned me as well, which is super weird since I wasn't subscribed to their shit show.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
/u/jamaicanroach and /u/Stuka_Ju87:
Don't directly link other subreddits, especially shitholes like that one. Just say "AHS" and pretty much anyone will know what you mean.
Stuka_Ju87 4y ago
I just edited comment, sorry.
Stuka_Ju87 4y ago
Fixed and edited. Sorry.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Reapproved
jamaicanroach 4y ago
Thanks, I edited it to remind the link and just use the initials.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Reapproved
jamaicanroach 4y ago
Thanks.
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Whoever is reporting this post, STOP IT. NOW.
If I find out who is reporting this, I'll report them to reddit admins for abusing the report button.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
I'm already doing it. Fuck those idiots.
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WTF! what would be the reason for reporting a informative post?
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"I don't like that they tell the truth about women"
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The Powers That Be, the Cathedral, are in mop up mode. Feminism and "wokeness" have won. They've consolidated permanent Democrat Party rule. They've created and solidified one-party hegemony with the Republicans as Democrat-lite, "loyal opposition" who will "lose nobly" every time. The Republicans will sit below the table as loyal lapdogs for AOC, Schumer, Pelosi, Joe the Molester and VP Ho, taking whatever table scraps the Dems are willing to toss them.
What do you think you'll do to fix this? Vote? You think you'll vote the bastards out? HAHAHAHAHA it is to laugh. The Demonrats have already shown they're willing to lie and cheat. They're willing to commit election fraud to get what they want. The US no longer has free and fair elections. No one trusts the process - not even those who defrauded the process trust it.
SCOTUS and everyone else let them get away with it. The USA as you knew it is dead, your enslavement is complete. The Constitution has been buried and the last nail driven into its coffin. We now wear chains and fetters - which you and I both agreed to be fitted for.
What's going on now is a mop up operation - the PTB and Cathedral are rooting out, smoking out, and mopping up the last of the resistance. A few pockets here and there are all that's left. A few more years, and every part of the manosphere will be driven back into the shadows as it was back in the 1980s, when the only information on masculinity and female nature was in adverts at the back of filth and raunch magazines. The only places to find it now will be on the Intellectual Dark Web or in in person meetings.
Men need to form in person connections now. If you know men from the 'sphere, develop trust to the point of phone calls and eventually to in person face to face meets and connections. Do it now, because if you don't, important bodies of information might be completely lost. I hope someone prints Dalrock's blog soon. Dalrock's body of work advanced the understanding of sexual dynamics and the current destruction of the Church more than almost anyone else. He's up there with Roosh, Roissy and Rollo if you ask me.
Winter is coming. A long, cold night is coming. The New Dark Ages are upon us. Hunker down and buckle up, and I hope you've saved up some morsels for the long day's journey into night. Here comes the Persecution, good and hard. Keep your head down and don't talk about Fight Club.
EDIT: I see that someone has reported this comment too.
I'm not going away. I am not going to stop writing. You all best get comfortable with it because I'm going to turn up the rhetoric now.
You asked for it, you got it, Toyota.
Cristoff13 4y ago
I can see them banning fds, just as a form of misdirection. I don't want to see it banned, but nobody really likes it, not even feminist subreddits, so it would be a convenient sacrifice.
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Fat, Drunk, and Stupid will not be banned. It's a pro-woman, gynocentric subreddit, so it is forever immune from banning. Only exception is r femcels, and that was banned for policy violations.
Cristoff13 4y ago
They also banned the gender critical feminist subreddits and the true lesbian subreddit, so its a possibility.
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panzer22222 4y ago
Yet, I have zero doubts we are on the 'list'
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
We're appealing it.
The reason the admins gave is "/r/MGTOW ban evasion" which is obviously a mistake.
u4534969346 4y ago
ok. ty for letting me know
PirateDocBrown 4y ago
r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre seems to have also bitten the dust.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Appealing it.
If they think it's a ban evasion sub for /r/MGTOW, then they didn't even bother to look very closely.
Fuck, most of us in there are married.
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SnakeEyeskid 4y ago
I got banned for being male from dating advice....
They are not going to care for rules now as you are entering the later stage of feminism take over.
Definitly will replace reddit with forum red once I got time.
Suk1tUpButterCup 4y ago
It already has... it already has...
DoctorFauciPHD 4y ago
Clown world gonna clown. Reddits swirling the bowel anyways; I'm here through inertia.
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Will... It already has look at Germany
I-am-the-lul 4y ago
I can see a possible future where FDS eventually gets banned, not because it hurts men, but because it redpills men.
jkballzer 4y ago
will??
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I’m leaving.
Derpy-boi 4y ago
They made a website too.
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
Not leftism per sé, extreme leftism is what you mean. Thats where all the SJW’s live who dont want equality, but revenge on things our ancestors did.
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
Will?
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It already has.
Homeschool your children, to protect them from the government mandated corruption.
Arm yourself, in defense of liberty and virtue.
Educate yourself, so you can’t be fooled by their false narratives and rhetoric.
vanillapopsicle 4y ago
FDS is essentially a Democrat Party operation. It is littered with Democrat rhetoric about "patriarchy" and other party-invented conspiracy theories. I would not be surprised if some of the founders were associated with the Party in some way, shape, or form, even associated with auxiliary organizations. Keeping women hating men, viewing them as financial objects or servants, or in other ways degrading them furthers the Party's goals.
It will never be banned.
[deleted] 4y ago
Yeah, I asked about FDS on AgainstHate and got banned. I strongly suspect this place is next.
benjiftp 4y ago
Time to make backups
SnakeEyeskid 4y ago
Swedish forum Flashback.org has been planting bad actors in MGTOW for three years and are now prepared to cleanse men from reddit. These ppl are so extreme you would not believe it.
So ye the sphere is going to die soon on reddit. Reddit is still naive and young in comparison and trust me, these ppl got leverage before they make a move.
Its sad bcuz this is the forum I use reddit for. And I've been monitoring their schemes as a mod on Flashback and, ye brace yourself fellas.
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In response I say this. I will never support feminism.
SnakeEyeskid 4y ago
Sanity test cleared!
wine_vs_milk 4y ago
I searched, and there are actually posts about FDS on AgainstHateSubreddits, but only when they transgress against LGBT. Straight natal men are fair game. What a joke.
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Which is next? FDS??? NEVER. They will never touch that sacred of sacreds.
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The sub this comment is written on.
sharedisaster 4y ago
Yes definitely. They are banning all ‘clone’ subs of MGTOW, so anything remotely connected will be looked at.
Scary.
benjiftp 4y ago
That's what happened to all the incel subs like half a year ago lmao
SwordfishActual3588 4y ago
i follow this sub and theredpill and i got to say i like this comunity way better then trp but that would suck if this one went away but nothing lasts forever
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Now banned from FragileMaleRedditor. A reminder. Men built this site, you dipshit admins.
Traksimuss 4y ago
Try creating FragileFemaleRedditor and see how that goes...
It is fine, Reddit had a good run and I am ready to leave it.
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I think it will only worsen. Agreed.
csehszlovakze 4y ago
and then he was suicided.
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to Aaron Swartz.
May there be an afterlife and may it have everything you ever wanted, my man.
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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 4y ago
No man-shaming.
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NuclearTheology 4y ago
There are plenty of places to discuss a man's role in this crazy cycle.
This sub isn't one of them
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Do not directly link other subreddits.
[deleted] 4y ago
Hahaha great flair! Did some feminist was butthurt by your truthbombs?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
They pretty much report every word I say.
I can say "my wife treats me better ever since I took the Red Pill" and they'll report it for anything and everything.
Of course I approve all my own comments.
UshankaDalek 4y ago
lmao
Any petty jab to try to keep men subservient.
[deleted] 4y ago
Hahaha, here have one upvote from me!
NuclearTheology 4y ago
How is that particular post NOT brigading On their part? They're literally targeting specific subreddits to get banned on principle
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Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
Fairness or consistency are tools of the patriarchy!
thefudmaster 4y ago
This
TurboEdition 4y ago
We have to take them down before they take us down. Mark my words.
[deleted] 4y ago
Dude, we lost Reddit years ago, about when Ellen Pao took over.
nsuphosdown 4y ago
How to get it through their thick skulls they just like taking punishment, let em, I'm done.
TurboEdition 4y ago
True, they need to be punished. Severely. Again and again till they don't even think about it ever again.
Southerndude62 4y ago
Why can't we go after them? Are we waiting for them to strike and doing nothing?
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Dinomiteblast 4y ago
Meh, let women silence the men… they will reap what they sow and in the end their dating pool will only be m’lady simps and guys looking for a pump and dump.
I see it irl more and more how men my age (millenials) decide to not marry, cohabitate and just fuck for fun instead of having meaningful relationships.
onlypinhead2000 4y ago
As a fellow millenial, I agree with you. I am seeing someone at the moment who's feminine. That surprised me.
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
Its fun to see how society is feminising men to a point there arent any men around to put up good buildings. You can already tell everywhere in the western world, buildings built in the 60 are standing far longer than buildings built in 2000… a drop in quality but also a drop in men wanting to work in construction.
As the generations get pushed into desk jobs more and more, we see a loss of knowledge on how to do handy stuff. Women will have to pick up the slack they made the men make.
I like hard handwork, but loads of my same age friends have no clue how to work with their hands.
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SnakeEyeskid 4y ago
They got the reddit admins peddling pictures, as do I for my safety. Reddit is stuck between a pedo scandal or bending the knee to women who openly advocate male genocide.
I wish I was more inclined to blackmailing these ppl but I like to sleep at night. I should have made sure to get leverage on the Swedish hate group but they got lots of Sovjet money (from Aschberg the heir to the red banker) and actual killers on their pay roll over here. So I don't know if I I like to get suicided over this..
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My thoughts exactly. This sub is definitely on a list.
askmrcia 4y ago
Which is a shame. Out of all the manosphere subs I would think this would be the most safe because the mods heavily enforce the rules such as brigading and hate messages towards women. Not to mention a lot of guys here are freaking married lol.
If this sub gets banned then there really is no safe space for men on reddit.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
Hahaha! Very appropriate analogy.
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bloodthirsty_emu 4y ago
Well, more "if it oinks like a pig, and waddles like a pig..." lol
nsuphosdown 4y ago
Then let's keep reporting them and getting women's subreddits banned its a no brainer.
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nsuphosdown 4y ago
Understandable but it's also not as simple as "sinking to their level" by being silenced of our truths and allowing them to spew their lies we allow them to reach broader audience and we will not allow that.
Celticpenguin85 4y ago
That sounds well and good but you give the reddit admins more credit than they deserve. They are blatantly biased. No amount of reporting subs like FDS will do anything because the reddit admins don't see anything wrong with it.
Edit: I'm old and not down with the lingo.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
You mean admins. Reddit admins.
Mods such as the mod team of this sub don't work for reddit, and don't control anything outside this sub.
Admins work for reddit and can do pretty much anything.
Celticpenguin85 4y ago
Yes, for a nerd pushing 40 I'm shockingly not down with the interwebs lingo.
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If the rp subs all go, I would be down to my sports subs. Provided the bluehairs do not go after that next.
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PMmeYourHopes-Dreams 4y ago
How have they been neutered? I don't spend enough time on them to know what is going on.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
They will. You know they will. They have already gone after some real sports teams and other traditionally male things, demanding that everything has to be "female-friendly" (means don't hurt princess' feelings).
plamplamthrow0322 4y ago
already stated in my other comment, but yes, they will.
seriously, if you're a centrist they want you dead too. idk why people are so naive about this. they are destroying the country and there will be no dissent other than vague, meaningless dissent that helps propel their movement forward to even more insane degrees. its not just blue hairs, its leftists and the whole tech establishment along with the government and the very weak ass democrats that sit by while letting bad things happen. republicans are just as happy to put up a fake fight against all this.
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There's always another platform. The onlythots who post here, for example, may want to consider the ramifications of what happens if they chase away all the male redditors (at least the sane ones.) Ask B-Cup Larson what happens when you denigrate your largest source of income for teh wokeness. If only a certain site who sounded like a boat hadn't gone down.
jhooperp 4y ago
So tired of men allowing this. Why?! Why are men going along this discrimination?! So tired of this. All men want is a space where they can relax and chat with other men at times. Can’t have that can we
SnakeEyeskid 4y ago
I don't think FB would be open to an English board but they/we have a lot hought this for decades so, I could check. They can't touch FB forum as they got moles in intellegence (FRA and NSA).
But I'm barely a mod there nowdays.
Suk1tUpButterCup 4y ago
It's not discrimination... it's only men doing what they do and being targeted and blamed for everything... yet again.
It's not that we men are allowing this, it's that those of the different gender are disallowing it, and what they want goes, at least on Reddit, all because they can't get what they want IRL...
There are no "Safe spaces" for men... a look at all the services out there strictly to benefit women and this is easily realized. Why should it be different in a "virtual" setting?
It would only be discrimination if this were a ban on a woman's only sub/forum... and as we can see by the continued functioning of those women only subs... this is the opinion the Reddit admins share...
Loban8990 4y ago
Apperantly no. No we can't.
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quijote3000 4y ago
I checked it. They don't have even a comment about mgtow being banned.
I mean, it's important to talk snout it, even for free speech purposes.
Not interested.
jhooperp 4y ago
What is hate speech?
When women bitch about men is that hate speech or is hate speech only when men bitch about women?
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jhooperp 4y ago
You just described most feminist subs on Reddit
And men’s lib isn’t a space for men. It’s feminists telling men what to think and like. But I get why you keep promoting it.
SparkyMcBiff 4y ago
There's no such thing as "hate speech".
There's only speech that the radical Leftist fascists want suppressed because it does not advance their agenda.
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Kooky-Picture-932 4y ago
Ya FDS is like shining a flashlight on the worst of female nature, I think it's important to keep a temp check on these stout bishes
CarHungry 4y ago
It's actually cartoonishly silly how bad it makes some people look, it actually wouldn't surprise me if the sub is ran by incel-type neckbears larping as narcissistic women.
TheCounsellingGamer 4y ago
FDS isn't just horrible towards men either, they're horrible towards any woman who doesn't agree with their "rules". I got pulled to pieces on there because my partner is older than me. They called me delusional, stupid, a pedo-sympathiser, etc (I should note that my partner and I met when I was an adult). I've seen them say truly vile things about women, as well as men.
nsuphosdown 4y ago
Those are just bitter older women who are threatened by younger women taking their men they're pathetic treat them like they don't exist.
plz_say_sike 4y ago
I’m not surprised they attacked you. A majority of their user base are unwed, single women in their 30s and 40s. When you told them you as a younger woman married an older man, all they heard was you “stole” a potential option away from them. They are bitter and jealous of your success.
TheCounsellingGamer 4y ago
You're probably right about that. They're not doing themselves any favours, bitterness isn't a good look (and if I can respectfully add that some of the men on this sub have fallen into the same trap). I wouldn't want to be with a man who blames my gender for all his misfortunes. Because if you can blame my gender, then it's not that big of a leap to blaming me for everything that goes wrong (I was in such a relationship when I was 18, it was bad). The same can be said for men. Men don't want to be with women who blame men for everything. Again, bitterness is extremely unattractive.
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
They are the female equivalent to a neckbeard.
thejynxed 4y ago
We call those legbeards.
youarewastingtime 4y ago
Wait um y’all are women on here? Why(not attacking you) im genuinely curious what you get from coming here? Entertainment, education?
HappilyMrs 4y ago
Given that I've never used tinder, I find it fascinating the way women portray themselves there and the responses. I dont agree with everything I read here, but it does make me think.
I am late 30s, but have been happily with the same man since I was a teen, no failed-CC rider.
103RYR 4y ago
This sub is highly educational, even if it may have content some/many (outside the sub) do not agree with, which is what i think differentiates this sub from other men based subs.
Suk1tUpButterCup 4y ago
There ARE indeed many women out there that do not follow the crowd. They have learned to think and feel for themselves instead of letting the herd dictate their direction....
I can only fathom a guess as to that being the motive behind any women who feels the need to participate here, and it is their right to do so... because they can think for themselves and have seen what the herd mentality can do...
TheCounsellingGamer 4y ago
I can't speak for anyone else but for me it's mostly curiosity. I don't really agree with a lot of what is said on here but I always try to expose myself to views that oppose mine. I find it aids personal growth to listen to people that think very differently from me. I'm also curious as to how people end up with more extreme views. I lurk on FDS for the same reason. The majority of women don't think the way they do, so I want to know why they think that way.
rpool179 4y ago
Most of them are mid 30s or older and been in long, failed relationships and are very angry and bitter towards men.
superprincesspeach 4y ago
There's a good number of us who post, and probably even more that lurk to be honest. I know people will look at my post history as a woman who regularly posts here and in other men's spaces, and rarely any female spaces, and think something is wrong with me. But there's a reason for it, it's because my ideas don't align perfectly with what feminism has become and if you stray off THAT path while being a woman you quickly get destroyed, banned and shunned on any forum or 'women's space'.
I like to be able to discuss views and opinions that affect the men in my life that I care about like my family and friends. There's plenty of places to talk about how terrible men are, and honestly they're gross, but I find it ironic that some women enjoy those spaces while simultaneously trying to actively destroy male spaces that do the same. Modern feminism really doesn't care about equality. And, as someone who does care about it, I want to be able to talk about what women can do better as well as men.
Plus hypocrisy, hypergamy and the dual mating strategy, and consequences of bad life choices are funny to witness. It's funny watching people having the freedom to choose correctly, but still making the wrong choice and it's still someone else's fault.
103RYR 4y ago
Heck yeah, i'm primarily on reddit to live vicariously through others, which is even more prominent due to lockdowns, watching other people make bad decisions and suffering from it and educating myself in the process, i can't see why folks wouldn't want to lurk in subs like this.
rpool179 4y ago
I was on there once and there was a woman saying another woman's boyfriend was a closet pedo because he was 29 and she was 21. And none of the other women were holding her accountable. Just wow.
droden 4y ago
but a 50 year old woman with a 25 year old boy friend is just so empowering and strong and brave
rpool179 4y ago
Right. They don't admit that much older women and younger men coupling simply just doesn't work for the most part. For biological and societal reasons. And if they want children as the female is too old to have them. Geriatric pregnancy starts at 35. If they want more then 1, even less likely.
PMmeYourHopes-Dreams 4y ago
An older woman sleeping with a young, hormone-driven guy who will fuck anything is no big accomplishment. It's funny how they brag about it.
But an older man securing a woman in her physical prime is an accomplishment. That is something to be proud of.
wanderingNotLost1980 4y ago
For a woman, picking up men for NSA sex is about as challenging as hunting cows.
rpool179 4y ago
Definitely. They think if a man sleeps with them they're on the same level or it makes them more envious. And then expect these older men to want them. They date their physical and societal equals, not a woman their age.
droden 4y ago
Leonardo DiCaprio must really piss them off to no end. he goes through swimsuit models like the fed printing t-bills brrrrrrrrrr
rpool179 4y ago
Lol his cutoff has always been 25. He's consistent.
TheCounsellingGamer 4y ago
There's 22.5 years in between me and my partner. We met when I was 20 and he was 42, the relationship just kinda happened because we balance each other almost perfectly. A lot of the comments from FDS were along the lines of "when you were a baby he was in university, that's gross and makes him a pedo". I tried to reason with them but no amount of logic would sway them. It was honestly insulting. They were basically saying I'm a child that's incapable of making my own choices. I'm a grown woman, I'm not some helpless little girl that must be rescued from the evil old man.
rpool179 4y ago
Right. Like they completely pretend like the biological and societal reasons for why some women will want an older man and why most men prefer a younger woman or at least not an older one don't exist. And laughably try to argue being with a 22 year old woman makes one a pedophile. It's laughable. And to top it off, they act as if women aren't responsible for their choices and are helpless. Thereby helping ensure women remain infantile in thought. Like sorry you wasted your best years being a forever girlfriend and maid to some loser. And now no one wants to marry you and be a stepdad. But don't take it out on us. Congrats to you and your husband though.
TheCounsellingGamer 4y ago
I know plenty of older women who have fabulous 2nd husbands. My own step father treats me as his own and he has ever since he married my mum when I was 8. The difference is that my mum wasn't bitter and entilited. Obviously she made it clear that we were a package deal, but she understood that not every man would want that. And to be honest, why would you even want to marry someone who doesn't care for your child? I know if I was a single parent, I'd only get into a relationship with someone who genuinely loved and cared for my kid. I wouldn't try to shame someone into being in a relationship with me. That doesn't end well for anyone, it especially doesn't end well for the child.
rpool179 4y ago
Fortunately for your stepdad you're mom comes from a different generation where our current issues weren't as widespread. And she raised you right so you're also respectful and know to be grateful to a man treating you as if you were his own daughter.
But unfortunately single mothers now are bitter and entitled like you said. There's literally no reason a man should marry one. 10, 20 years ago sure. But now they don't even offer the benefits of what a traditional wife would do. In fact, there's no reason period women should even be having children before marriage. It's 2021, there's multiple forms of birth control and plan B. Instead, they baby trap men hoping it'll force them to stay and doom their children from the start by making them fatherless because the man never wanted them in the first place.
TheCounsellingGamer 4y ago
I am incredibly grateful for my step dad. My bio father wasn't the best, he was ambivalent about having a child. I only exist because being pregnant was supposed to cure my mother's health problem (I didn't but that's a story for another day). I know my bio dad loves me and I don't really blame him for not being the best. When it comes to children, they have to be something you truly, 100% want.
You mentioned "traditional wife". I think the problem is that a lot of people want a "traditional spouse" without being a traditional spouse themselves. I made it very clear at the beginning of my relationship that I have no intention of staying home, spending my time cooking, cleaning, and giving sex on demand. I don't judge women who do want that, but my goals don't align with that lifestyle. Bearing that in mind, I don't expect my man to be a "traditional husband". I don't expect him to slave away at work so he can buy me everything I want. I don't expect him to never come to me with his problems. I don't expect him to do all the DIY job while I sit on my arse chatting with my friends.
If you want a traditional man or woman, then it's a reasonable to assume that those people will also want a traditional partner. You can't be an untraditional woman seeking a traditional man, and vice versa. That's why it's important to be upfront about what you want in a relationship. Know yourself and your boundaries, and stick to them.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
The fuck is up with people having to hang this on “the left” at every turn?
I’m as “left” as it gets and I still hate woke culture, the demonization of masculinity and the woman worship that is going on in the US right now.
Recognizing women’s unique forms of shittiness has nothing to do with being for universal health care or unions.
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The Venn diagram between SJWs and politically left people is almost completely overlaps is why.
plamplamthrow0322 4y ago
leftism very much is the problem in america. sorry to say but yeah, your "leftism" talk of unions and healthcare died in the 20th century. modern leftism is about women, black people, trannies, and gays. it has nothing to do with workers rights. that's just a carrot dangled to get gullible hetero white men to support them and give them money.
pro tip: they'll never deliver on that, and if they do, it will be totally botched and be worse than the original capitalist version of the thing you had.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
Is “the right” pro union? Pro health care?
The rights biggest issues not long ago were about evil gays and still is about abortion and guns.
Not sure how that’s helping the steel workers.
The point is, the “culture war” shit is just a team sport that the right and left both engage in.
Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
It depends on the definition of "left". Leftist policy should be "help poor people by government interventions", not hate of masculinity, Christianity, white people and Western civilization.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
I agree with you 100% and just hate that the definition of what constitutes the left ignores policies and goes straight for the worst of the SJW blue haired tumblr feminists.
I also think being skeptical of religion isn’t a “left” thing but the attempt to turn “straight white male” into an epithet certainly is.
Bill Maher is left. He’s not an SJW.
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I'm as right-wing as it gets, and a union man.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
Lots of those in the rust belt too.
What a mess where mostly invented social wedge issues have pushed us all so far apart that we can’t even come together on shit like protecting people that build and fix shit in this country.
onlypinhead2000 4y ago
Polical parties are destroying this country period.
l8nightbusdrivr 4y ago
It is being “hung on the left” because it is the political left that is perpetuating the “wokeness.”
Basically, the Democrat party left you, you didn’t leave it.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
So let me get this straight, because I don’t subscribe to wokeism, I should also support tax breaks for the rich, hate unions, the FDA and love profit driven health care?
That makes what kind of sense?
l8nightbusdrivr 4y ago
It doesn’t make any sense. It’s not your fault….but whether you want to acknowledge it or not, this is being pushed by the hard left wing.
You and I remember the days of President Clinton. He wasn’t a bad president at all. If he were judged by today’s standards, he would be a centrist Republican. Even Joe Biden circa 1980 wouldn’t recognize the party (and ideology) he leads today.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
What? Are you talking about social issues or garden variety shit?
Because I fully agree with you that Democrats have hitched their wagon to a line of thinking that has gone fully off the rails.
When it comes to policy issues, the democrats are still to the right or Carter and wayyy to the right of any other industrialized democracy on earth.
The fact that universal health care is controversial here should tell you that.
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
I think its because the centerline has really shifted towards the left on the spectrum. Most people who think they are right are actually centric while the ones saying they are left are borderline extreme left. And sjw’s fall into that extreme left cathegory.
I-am-the-lul 4y ago
That's because the Overton window has moved so much in the last 60+ years, for example JFK was a Democrat, but by modern standards, a person with JFK's world view would now be seen as a hard right Republican.
l8nightbusdrivr 4y ago
Entirely correct.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
SJW’s are certainly extreme but self identifying “conservatives” are generally douchey assholes as well.
Old school liberals that focused on social programs, fair trade, unions and pride in blue collar work still exist.
Don’t lump us in with the SJW cult.
V_M 4y ago
That's like literally Trump. That's how far things have moved left, that a 70s Democrat is widely considered a Nazi now.
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
Im not, you’d be on the new centerline today as that has shifted more towards the left. And people who say they are todays left are more into old extreme left. Its a bit a mindbreaker to be honest.
Your views today would be more centric views today than they were 60 years ago. If that makes sense?
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
Yah. It’s all fucked up now tbh. I just know with Trump things went to a new level of insanity because of the dogmatic Pro / anti Trump teams began to define their whole identity on “owning” the other side.
amightyusername 4y ago
That's the issue at hand: classical liberalism isn't leftism, progressivism and/or neoliberalism. Also the fact that political positions shifting to each extreme as times passes means that was a normal position to hold is now seen as extreme from opposite aisle of the political spectrum. Hence someone that might've been a classical liberal a few years ago might be seen from individuals to his/her left as a right winger.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
I find it far more common that Trumpsters and others on the right will scream “communist” at anybody who even mentions Medicare for all or food stamps.
This isn’t just a “left” issue, it’s an issue with peoples entire identity being wrapped up in their red / blue team at the expense of any rational thought or intellectual consistency.
amightyusername 4y ago
Fair point. It's an issue in the whole political spectrum and name-calling left and right.
TheRiverInEgypt 4y ago
Two reasons:
1) They confuse leftist with progressive.
2) Most of “this” shit came from people who held left of center beliefs.
I always considered myself a moderate until about 5 years ago when I realize that the only way to protect my “moderate” beliefs from being corrupted by the corporate kleptocracy was to utilize leftist socio-economic policies to preserve the political power of the citizens above that of the elites & corporations.
That said, I require that any ideology or policy be able to stand up to critical examination & be supported by scientific evidence before I will support it.
As a result, I absolutely support & advocate for gender equity which is why I am not a feminist.
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TheRiverInEgypt 4y ago
Except that those "scientific facts" only were accepted because of prejudicial narratives & had the evidence behind the claims been held up to the rigors of the scientific method, it wouldn't have measured up, even by the standards of those days.
However, because people are vulnerable to confirmation bias, they tend not to hold up ideas which confirm what they already believe (or justify what they want to believe) to the appropriate level of scrutiny.
Today we see the same crap in a lot of the social (or soft) sciences - it isn't a lack of knowledge or a misunderstanding of the laws of the natural world, it is just shitty science.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
This makes sense. And no doubt “the left” is enjoying the results of its self inflicted wounds resulting from embracing the nutty SJW wing just like the right suffered in the 90’s with the nutty religious wing.
TheRiverInEgypt 4y ago
As someone with a degree in political science (not claiming expert status, only mentioning it to signal that the subject interests me greatly) there are times that I think that the only saving grace of our democracy is the profoundly reliable compulsion that both the right & the left have when it comes to shooting themselves in the foot.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
This is true. It’s kind of a built in self correction of the 2 party system that each wing goes to far and overplays their hand so that the electorate corrects it.
However, to think that the US can’t succumb to a dictator / single party authoritarian is foolish. We’re veering close to that every election cycle.
Trump killed any hope of moderation in the Republican Party.
TheRiverInEgypt 4y ago
Indeed, although as someone who has spent most of my adult life in conflict areas, & failing or failed states, I'm far more concerned with internecine political combativeness shifting into actual physical violence in the streets - it is a pattern I've seen more than a few times & while we can change course any time we like, we sure seem to be having a lot of fun pumping out the greatest hits of failing states.
Im_The_Daiquiri_Man 4y ago
Damn. I won’t pretend to speak with as much experience as you if you’ve seen this shit first hand.
But from a historical standpoint it’s very hard not to see this as 1920’s Germany with Freikorp (proud boys) fighting Antifa (literally the same name)
Combine that with a world wide pandemic (like the Spanish flu) and the parallels with the Weimar Republic are ominous.
All that’s missing is the sense of humiliation and listlessness of the populace but automation and outsourcing is putting us one economic crash away from that too.
The current climate in the Us is like the embryo of a totalitarian state.
IMO, if there had been a major terrorist attack under Trump (reichstag fire) we could have seen something very very scary in this country (enabling act).
I don’t think that even trumps greatest advocates would deny that the man has massive dictatorial impulses and a messiah complex.
TheRiverInEgypt 4y ago
Don't worry, I'm sure the millions of Americans who are currently facing the prospect of being evicted from their homes will fill that gap soon enough.
If you look at predictive models that have been very reliable at predicting the sort of crisises which can lead to civil wars, failed states or governments toppling (mostly peacefully) - you can't accurately predict what the outcome will be, but they have a very strong track record of being able to pick the "decision points" which force the society to make choices that will lead to any of the above outcomes (although not an exhaustive list) the US was already meeting almost 80% of the metrics before covid, blm protests & the economic hardships which resulted.
Now, it is important to keep in mind that these are sort of like dominoes, individually they aren't massive problems or catastrophic & frankly all of the myriad problems which are introduce fragility into our society today are pretty easily solvable if (& only if) people are willing to actually sit down & do the work.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like any of our politicians & leaders are paying any attention to the fact that while each of the dominoes doesn't seem like a systemic risk, what they aren't seeing is what happens when several dominoes fail at once or recognizing that failures are multiplicative rather than additive, so with each additional point of failure, the systemic risk balloons disproportionately to the individual impact of the failure point.
I hope I am wrong but after what I saw on the streets of Seattle & Portland last summer when I was volunteering as a medic team lead at the protests, I am seeing a lot of potential for our society to devolve into multi-factional violence with militia on both sides clashing with each other & with state/local governments of the opposing ideology & potentially even inflamed & developed by partisan groups & state actors.
The current course in which each state is pursuing progressively more unilateral agendas based on the prevailing political identity of the state (so blue states are passing more extreme progressive legislation while red states are passing more & more extreme conservative legislation) combined with the protocols of dehumanization which we are already seeing become normalized by the fundamentalist blocks on both the right & the left, it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that we could see state governments & political organizations fund & mobilize subversive groups in neighboring states of the opposite political affiliation & while I expect this will initially be focused on peaceful protest, the reality is that single-side protests vs authority are tense enough, but whenever you have opposing & contrarian protests, the potential for very small numbers of bad actors to have a massively outsized influence in sparking violence is quite frankly terrifyingly plausible.
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SylvestorTalone 4y ago
It's because all of the problems we're constantly talking about are coming from the left. To the extent that the right is 'just as bad' it's because the mainstream 'right' has aquiesced to so many leftist precepts that it may as well be left wing itself. There really is no political right in the mainstream, the Overton Window is so far to the left that what we have in the mainstream is the far left arguing with the center left.
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SylvestorTalone 4y ago
Such people have absolutely no power and drive no political agenda.
The mainstream political 'right' is pro mass immigration, pro welfare state, pro financial profligacy, pro abortion, pro LGBTQLMNOP. The line on anybody holding conservative moral opinions is as you say, they're a bunch of slack jawed, retrograde inbreds, barely above chimpanzees.
You're just delusional about that fact because you're on the Left.
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SylvestorTalone 4y ago
Nice try, but I'm British. I don't have to care which rebel leader gets elected.
You're clearly too far gone if you're comparing Trump rallies to Nuremberg or what happened at the capitol to a coup. Just know that the reason people in these parts hang the blame for the modern insanity (rightly) at the door of you and your kind is because it's your fault and they see that. It doesn't matter how salty you get over it.
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SylvestorTalone 4y ago
I mean that's the most pathetic coup in history. Was there even any weapons fire from the 'insurgents'? I know it's to the advantage of your side to hype it up as much as possible, but a coup to topple the government of the most powerful nation on earth really needs to kill more than five people.
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lookoutbelow60 4y ago
It’s funny how everyone wants us to be banned for telling the truth
3HardWay 4y ago
Always hunting down and destroying male safe spaces.
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msk_501 4y ago
Been on this site for like ten years and this is a surprise. (sort of)
Well, looks like Reddit is finally dead to me. I'll not log back in for a long time, if ever again.
Let these fucking loons have it, I only hung around for one sub anyways. Adios.
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Just delete your account don't give them your account to show their puppetmaster how much traffic they can generate.
After reading this thread I'm delteing mine as well.
p.s. do it from https://old.reddit.com/prefs/deactivate.
Disciple_Of_Cheesus 4y ago
Truthfully, it was bound to happen sooner or later. The growth and influence of MGTOW simply can't be denied anymore. It's no longer a laughing matter. We can only expect the attacks and censorship to ratchet up in the very near future.
Take heart, fellas. It's proof that we're winning.
RandomRedditGuy322 4y ago
https://ruqqus.com/+MGTOW
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
If banned, lawsuits should be filed immediately. Mgtow tribe needs to drop some coin. A dollar each will do it or a single big money donor. Get a civil rights firm, find a person with damages, then sue reddit.
Aurelian1960 4y ago
This was foreseen. Reddit is a left wing radical piece of shit site. This should have been no suprise.
hotelactual777 4y ago
For sure. It’s amazing to me, I sometimes forget how powerful these woke fuckers can be.
Men going their own way. That sub was about men living their lives and improving themselves. It was not straight up against women, it was about making sure you were confident and happy with yourself, for who you are, content, even. They just suggested that perhaps men did not need to follow the traditional path of Finding a woman and starting a family to be happy.
I mean, the MGTOW sub was not so much different than the popular women’s sub, except that the women’s sub was not quarantined.
It’s funny, because the one for women clearly hates men, but their goal is dating and finding a good man. The men’s sub was definitely not about finding a high value woman, but being confident enough with yourself that you could live without one.
The bias is real, and if they banned MGTOW it’s just a matter of time before this place goes too. This place is a lot of fun, but it is definitely different than what I liked to read / comment about in MGTOW.
What a shame.
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u4534969346 4y ago
nobody really discussed there how to best rotate you. for some men "going their own way" just meant rotating you because it's more fun than fapping and it also can be done very time efficient, that's all.
Long_Range_Shooter 4y ago
There's always POAL which is like Reddit without the censoring. They have a MGTOW sub up and running. https://poal.co/s/mgtow/new
Most of the Reddit Conservative political subs that got banned headed over to Poal and .win
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Gynocentrism. Women can do whatever they want, no retribution. Man complain, or do the same as women, retribution ensured.
withrowsprings 4y ago
Cum on. We know it. How many days we will last long? weeks? Nope. only days.
Open challenge to reddit. Can they ban the real redpill/blackpill sub FDS? They can't!
These are the real steps towards black pill generation. After gen Z, there will be Gen B.
DoctorFauciPHD 4y ago
You are dead wrong to want FDS banned. Let people see the truth
rpool179 4y ago
Why did they get banned? Seems like there's nowhere online men can go to for just men.
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We all know damn well it would get stopped in real life too.
Curves is okay, remember.
But our having an all-male gym? Nope.
rpool179 4y ago
I know
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It says a lot about Reddit when you need to walk on eggshells.
rpool179 4y ago
Yea it really does. But unfortunately it's how it is now since every sub geared towards men have a target on their back.
high_sauce 4y ago
It will only make the mens right movement stronger.
evil-doraemon 4y ago
Even Angela Merkel would find this threat to free speech, “troubling.”
jhooperp 4y ago
FDS is a sub where they post antiMale posts. Where they literally have posts TEACHING girls how to use and manipulate men.
Yet MGTOW, which is literally just Men Going Their Own Way, gets banned. It was a sub mainly where men who’ve been used and abused and hurt and who saw discrimination against them just because of their gender had a place to post and chat. Can’t have men doing that can we. Only women are allowed to have their spaces.
With all these bans social media companies have been doing the past year or so we need a social media company to start where they literally won’t ban and I’m sure they will succeed.
This is discrimination yet it’s par for the course. It’s only against men so who cares
SnuSnuClownWorld 4y ago
We had one, it was called parler and it got nuked by amazon.
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jhooperp 4y ago
Just that Gab isn’t easy to navigate just yet. It’s all over the place. But it’s a start
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jhooperp 4y ago
I agree. But they aren’t fully easy to navigate just yet.
We need some rich person who doesn’t like the left to give money to people who can create a social media platform better than Twitter and fb and Reddit that make a point to say they won’t go along censorship and I bet they will become bigger than the others in some years.
UshankaDalek 4y ago
There's been a ton. Parler, gettr, grindr, FrankSpeech, and Gab. Two of those are jokes.
You say Gab isn't fully easy to navigate yet. I don't know what that means. It works just like Twitter, but with groups.
jhooperp 4y ago
I mean its slow at times to load etc.
UshankaDalek 4y ago
It's gotten a lot better in the past 3-4 months.
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jhooperp 4y ago
I understand.
unified_masking_tape 4y ago
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre just got banned. Lovely.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
I take it you didn't read my edit at the very top of this post?
unified_masking_tape 4y ago
You take it correctly sir. Thanks for pointing it out, honestly didn’t see it. See it now.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
It happens to all of us occasionally
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
No direct links to other subs.
PolukranosWordEater 4y ago
Mgtow was a ghost town after the quarantine. Same with TRP. At one time r/mgtow had around 150,000 subs. It helped me so much get through my breakup and custody fight. It's a shame men don't have any support when we have to go through the most painful experience of our lives. The fact that anonymous walls of text was all we had to cling to for help says a lot about things. All the censorship will do is stew more resentment. Well 4Chan I go i guess.
Yggdrasill4 4y ago
I havent been to 4chan for years and years, but I guess that is the only last bastion of free thought. Once you are there, guess you are there forever
askmrcia 4y ago
It's way too many shitposts on 4chan for any chancs of having a real discussion.
Yggdrasill4 4y ago
Spent my teens and early adulthood on 4chan a lot, I miss 2007-2009 4chan /b like a competition to be very idiotic and extreme, but witty at the same time.
amightyusername 4y ago
Alternative Platforms
Ruqqus (https://ruqqus.com/) is an open-source news aggregator, much like Reddit, without the blatant censorship. Subreddits are called guilds, and moderators guildmasters. The process of deleting posts/comments by the guildmaster is always logged and thus fully transparent.
There's a guild for MGTOW (https://ruqqus.com/+MGTOW). There's also a guild for this sub, although remember it's not moderated and/or affiliated with the mods here: https://ruqqus.com/+WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/.
Head over to Ruqqus, create an account and speak your mind freely (within the confines of Ruqqus TOS which is quite libertarian in nature).
On Reddit and The Inevitable
Reddit banning all male-centric subs is inevitable in the long run, thus the best option is to be proactive and not merely reactive because "it won't happen to this sub, right?".
Don't ever think Reddit is a place where you can express yourself freely anymore. It used to be like that at its start, however those were different times... those were the times when visonaries like Aaron Schwartz were fighting for civil liberties and people's freedom, especially on the internet. Since then Reddit (and the internet at large) morphed into a leftist/liberal authoritarian aberration where opinions are simply shunned left and right because the present a disagreement, an alternative viewpoint, disagree with an authority's mandates, etc.
Reddit has given a happy abode to a group of people who constantly violate Reddit's TOS without any consequences, simply because the subs/mods align ideologically with Reddit admins. Opinions don't even need to be unpopular and unsavory, they just need to pose a disagreement and bam, you're gone. It won't be long until they start IP banning people, instead of simply banning an account.
Reddit is not your house, your playground, your park, etc. but enemy territory. You all here frequenting manosphere-related subs are on borrowed time and you shouldn't be surprised when the ban hammer is brought upon you. I know it, you know and we all know it.
Thus it's time to be proactive, and not reactive. Stop creating offshoots of former subreddits, because the same fate will befall them. The problem isn't necessarily with the subs themselves but with Reddit itself. Aside from not participating on Reddit with good faith, nothing else you do will change this invariant. Move on and let them eat themselves. No hard feelings but simply acknowledgement of a situation. To greener pastures elsewhere!
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This is great to hear but there's no guarantee this sub won't get banned, after all you're not dealing with logical and rational creatures. All it takes is a bunch of rainbow-color harpies and their soiboys mass-reporting and Reddit admins doing what they do best.
This is a great point, however MGTOW2 was closely moderated and a lot tamer than MGTOW yet it was still banned simply by being associated with the other MGTOW sub and the manosphere at large.
This is another great point and I wholeheartedly agree: MGTOW should've tread lightly and enforce its rules more closely. Although I cannot help but notice the hypocrisy from Reddit regarding brigading and harassment when other subs where explicitly created to brigade, harrass and ultimately ban male-centric subs. I wouldn't have any problem with this decision if Reddit wasn't a clearly biased place.
This is nice to hear but it could be a matter of time before this sub is targeted. The worst you can do with these people is for them to find asleep in laurels. Remember you're not dealing with logical and rational individuals but people pushing a certain agenda at all cost.
Edit... Thanks for the awards but don't use your money on this forsaken place.
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I'm slowly making my way there.
jmrehan 4y ago
The ruqqus guild just exploded with refugees thankfully.
[deleted] 4y ago
Just created an account! I am leaving this god forsaken place.
WSBenchWarmer 4y ago
What’s it called? Same name?
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
that is not us.
I'm not sure if whoever created that has good intentions to try to carry our torch into other areas, or is just trying to rip us off, but it is not us or affiliated with us in any way.
our only alternate platform is at https://www.forums.red/i/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen.
There are no guarantees of anything in life, but I can state the following:
/r/MGTOW was barely moderated, if/when it was moderated at all, whereas we heavily moderate and enforce our rules strictly. That goes a very long way.
Oftentimes posts and comments at /r/MGTOW would be direct links to other subs. Members would follow those links and try to get their two cents in, which constitutes brigading and harassment. We don't permit that here, and remove most comments and posts we notice that contain direct links.
[deleted] 4y ago
Maybe, but one day the more moderate admins will be replaced by others less helpful. This sub is on borrowed time.
TheSilverShade 4y ago
I was one of the mgtow2 mods. We're currently on Ruqqus where I moderate as well. And we're working on other alternatives as well.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Best of luck to you. From what little I saw, you guys actually moderated your sub and got unfairly lumped in with the original.
edit - to the stupid shithead who reported his comment along with this one for "Threatening, harassing, or inciting violence":
1) I love the "snooze reports" feature. You're silenced for a while.
2) I've reported you to the admins for abusing the report button.
[deleted] 4y ago
So was there any reason given Mgtow2 was banned?
I read somewhere mgtow3 (didn't even know existed got banned also).
TheSilverShade 4y ago
no reason really. we saw it coming tho. the no lifers at MGTOWban and AHS are after Mensrights, and this sub as well
[deleted] 4y ago
Yes, this site is on borrowed time, would be nice if we all left this shithole of a site.
btw which guild are you moderating there?
TheSilverShade 4y ago
+Mgtow and +mgtow2
MGTOW_Morpheus_ 4y ago
This is just going to cause the MGTOW content to spread all over the other subreddits just in more subtle ways. At least with a dedicated subreddit was confined to one place.
TimeyWimey1467 4y ago
I don't think this sub will last for long as well. All subreddits geared towards men will get banned slowly. Time to install Ruqqus.
amightyusername 4y ago
No need to install an app and invite targeted surveillance into your phone. Ruqqus is a mobile-friendly web-app totally usable in your browser from the get-go.
Edit... Just learned there's a native Android app for Ruqqus.
notarmani 4y ago
lol and all the pedos at ahs are celebrating, imagine that
this site is full of progressive protofascists tbh, its getting worse by the day
jkballzer 4y ago
yes because fascists promoted feminist/trans leftism that currently dominates the West
notarmani 4y ago
all the while censoring every view that isnt their own
theres where the protofascism comes from
jkballzer 4y ago
They’re leftists-communists. Literally the mortal enemies of fascism.
AmirIsBack 4y ago
None of you "liberals" are leftists. Real leftists put types like you against the wall. You're noting but neoliberal tools of capitalism.
Stuka_Ju87 4y ago
Unless it's beneficial to them. See the ribbentrop-pact and also early Antifa In Germany.
notarmani 4y ago
commies and fashies are both devout authoritarians whove censored freedom of speech and killed millions of people. different ideology economics wise but same dictatorial principles
jkballzer 4y ago
Communists killed WAY more people than fascists. But post a pic of Mao or Stalin to Facebook you’ll be all good. Try posting a pic of fascist leader, see what happens. Should be all you need to know to tell you who’s actually in power and who’s enforcing this feminist gynocracy on us.
Impossible-Maize541 4y ago
Mgtow 1 I don't know about, I couldn't access.
Mgtow 2 was good, it didn't have hate content, was good vibes ,well moded. The sub had stared having a flow of feminists the last 1-2 months
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I think the feminists got it banned. Cannot dare have a male only space.
Machomuk89 4y ago
They can ban all the subs they want, we still won't date these entitled princesses.
[deleted] 4y ago
Exactly, that's one thing they are not getting. Men are just not wifing these post wall losers.
droden 4y ago
harpies
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WhereProgressIsMade 4y ago
Some teenage boys realize the lies when their peers who act like bad boys get the girls and the nice guys get made fun of.
SammySilver09 4y ago
It's not for us, it's for the kids that haven't started dating yet. If they can eliminate mgtow and red pill ideas then maybe the next generation of men will be blue pill and open to full indoctrination.
Shutting down sites isn't going to change a 25+ year old.
V_M 4y ago
Political conservative fertility advantage is huge; future generations are going to have right wing parents.
BroskiGman 4y ago
Is it? I doubt it. It's a biological inclination, young men have strong desires (as do young women). They're not going to read something and then decide they're uninterested. That's why we have such stiff laws and cultural conditioning in place to control behavior. Although why some people seem to have the right to choose what is normal behavior may be a problem, as they tend to inhibit natural choices (like the traditional younger woman and older guy marriage which was the norm in the past, or two young underage people wanting to get married, regardless of social status or employment or anything else).
de_carole 4y ago
This cannot happen, at least not fully (I know they think it can tho)
Next gen kids will still see how their mother destroy their father in divorce, those whose parents don't divorce will still see how their father are never given any ounce of authority while all responsibility are still placed on their shoulder
You can ban something until noone remember the name, but the idea will still linger, and when someone found it, it will just be given a new name
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Thrasympmachus 4y ago
I was one of those young dudes that found out about MGTOW at age 18 and did my research and due diligence. I was introduced to the concepts by Sandman on YouTube, and a few years later, joined the MGTOW sub. The camaraderie was a refreshing activity to be shared freely in that sub. Didn’t matter if you were still in the Redpill-Rage stage or if you reached full enlightenment/acceptance of reality as it is shown… dudes had simple conservations about dude-stuff that only dudes cared about. It was a safe space by men for men. And it’s a goddamn shame that it got taken down.
SebastianSio 4y ago
So true, I can confirm that I was already brainwashed into thinking these kind of women were normal, I would see different media about men chasing single moms, women who were trashy and stuff like that and they would paint it as something good or even as something men should do if they love the girl.
If they do ban this subreddit I can at least say thank you, as you all opened my eyes. Now in my early twenties I can say i feel good as I'm no longer brainwashed by that media.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Then it was all worth it.
UltimateShame 4y ago
Completely leaving society behind is starting to become a very valid option. This is ridiculous.
droden 4y ago
its not. if you think it ends here you are quite wrong. give them an inch online and they will take a mile in real life.
RecommendationRoyal9 4y ago
I've been lurking MGTOW for a while, and not once did I witness or see anything that could be constituted as a violation of community rules. MGTOW was a place where other other men could vent and tell their own stories regarding their own mistreatment by women. Sad day indeed. I'm done with reddit though. This will be my first and last post here. I wish you gentlemen the best of luck. I hope that doesn't happen here as well.
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
There was some blatant mysoginy at one point. I got banned cause i called it an echo chamber sub, which it was at the end. I liked it a couple of years ago when it was actually about men and women werent involved. But then certain incel subs were banned and they flocked to mgtow to sprout their bs there and suddenly the “women are the cause of my issues” posts began to surge. Mgtow2 was clean of that… until mgtow1 got quarantined… rinse and repeat.
askmrcia 4y ago
It got quarantined once that guy in Australia I believe went on a rampage. News articles reported that he frequently visited the mgtow subreddit.
After that event the sub reddit had a huge target on its back. I checked that sub years ago and most of the things I saw was memes or guys bragging about their cars or solo trips.
There really was no hate towards women on there. I mean I'm sure you could find a few posts there every now and then, but most were just memes making fun of them.
plamplamthrow0322 4y ago
you know its really dumb how nobody allows someone to say something like "women are the cause of my issues."
really its probably a factual statement for a lot of men. women do a lot of stupid shit, like a lot of stupid policies, and band together iwth other women to spread stupid false rumors about people all the time.
like why is it so hard for people to acknowledge that women are just as bad as men? why?
Dinomiteblast 4y ago
Yeah, i agree, i was painting with a broad brush and probably sounded a bit generalising.
What i meant to say was: Posts of men travelling, just car stuff etc, even golfing intertwined with stories about the issue they had with relationships with women made way for generalising all women bad and it stopped beeing about how men could forge their own story or walk to their own beat and became a blame game sub. Mgtow 1 helped me through my shit, especially posts from older guys who have seen alot of shit. But i didnt like how the focus went from “how can we help men go their own way without needing a relationship or female company” to “why you need to know women ruined you and why you should hate on them.”
I know it doesnt fit the narrative, but i believe in a go your own way without always having to pull women in the conversation, cause at one point you are so busy discussing why women are who they are and you arent going your own way, you get stuck in a circle.
Unshack 4y ago
Since women spend 80% off the money, they’re in charge when it comes to bans. Little do they know, the speech is now underground and can’t be moderated
SafeGrip2021 4y ago
Make sure to read rolo tomassi’s “Rational Male” and pass it on to all friends. REQUIRED RED PILL READING!
KangarooCrapper 4y ago
Catch his youtube channel. Same rational male stuff..
Jihocech_Honza 4y ago
Better to buy the books. Paper can not be banned.
SafeGrip2021 4y ago
Im saying. The book is the bible you gotta have locally in your own home!
IanovSaraban 4y ago
From what I gather here and there is that a lot of MRs related creators and followers are moving to locals.com.? Not sure who else has moved over there but with the news of these two subreddit bans we need to consolidate somewhere else. Pay for who you support or you’ll lose it I think…I am setting up an account in order to follow Joker (betterbachelor.locals.com) as he has the dating profile of the day kind of thing we have here. I’ll be interested to see where Kevin Samuels goes when YouTube crushes him…feminists hate that guy but he’s legit savage to deluded modern women and has good advice for men navigating this twisted world we live in today.
Group together locally…we need to keep this out of the dark corners otherwise dark things emerge.
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My first thought was to check out maledatingstrategy. Felt like it would send a message
romneymerchant 4y ago
I think the More apt name would be "malenodatestrategy" or or malenomarriagenircohabitatinstrategy
Imoldok 4y ago
Proof once again that the left poisons and kills everything it touches. They are the Clostridium botulinum.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
People were saying that when I created my reddit account 2 years ago.
We're still here.
[deleted] 4y ago
I knew this site was fucked when that memes sub began pushing the propaganda. Hard.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
No directly linking other subs.
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Shit. Sorry. I dont read gud.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Reapproved
[deleted] 4y ago
Thanks friend.
cryptotelemetry 4y ago
A travesty of justice of the highest order.
Last-Redditor 4y ago
This website keeps getting worse and worse. I mostly lurk but I had to login to my original account just to say this. Never thought I would see reddit become this cucked when I originally started using it in 2010
DoctorFauciPHD 4y ago
After ask science stopped having actual scientists, it was all downhill from there
3HardWay 4y ago
It started really declining around 2008 I think. After everyone jumped off Digg when they switched it to be driven more by companies than the user base. That began the eternal September.
skint_back 4y ago
It’s sad…
Reddit was founded on the principle of free speech, and that’s what made it wildly successful… that’s what made it different from other social media platforms.
With wild success comes wild money… and with money comes the influence of those who supply said money. In Reddit’s case it is advertisers. So, the owners of Reddit are banning anything perceived as controversial (/askTRP went dark a couple months ago) in order to make Reddit as appealing as possible to as many investors as possible. Worth noting- only male centric “controversial” subs are being targeted.
As is always the case, money ruins everything it touches. Reddit has completely and utterly betrayed it’s original mission purpose in the name of profit. So ironic, considering that Reddit’s original mission purpose is what put it in a position to be profitable at in the first place.
Considering WAATGM’s close association to Red Pill, I fear this sub will be next on Reddit’s hit list…. While the many misandrist shithole subs will, of course, be allowed to continue to thrive.
This whole situation is so sad… not surprising in the least, but still completely disappointing.
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Yeah, I'm off to greener pastures.
tacochops 4y ago
It's so easy to just blame money as the root cause, but it's more about raw political power. Once reddit was pulling in millions of views a day, that gave them control over what is visible to a ton of people. That amount of people can turn elections, so by selectively banning users/subs, and locking threads, they can frame what people to see. It's not about removing what's controversial, it's about crushing anything that voices a dissenting opinion against their ideological worldview. Once you control what the vast majority of people see, and because people generally conform to the group consensus, you can essentially convert people to your ideology. They're also use their own mods to continue maintaining that overton window.
For example, in Canada, housing is a common talking point because it has grown to be very expensive. Someone made a /r/canadahousing subreddit and it's fine for the first few months as it grew, everyone talked about all sorts of problems with housing. Then suddenly after reaching a 10k-20k users, they started banning people that talked about immigration numbers as part of the problem. This resulted in /r/canadahousing2 being made, but of course it has far fewer numbers because now it has to compete with an already established subreddit, where nobody even sees anything wrong unless they start talking about immigration numbers themselves.
skint_back 4y ago
I don’t disagree, but money and power are not mutually exclusive. They usually go hand and hand.
In other words, it’s about money and power.
Like Scarface said- “First you get the money. The you get the power. Then you get the women.”
Or in Reddit’s case, “First you get the money. Then you get the power. Then you bow to women and put them on a pedestal and ban anything that puts women in a negative light.”
Lameador 4y ago
Not exclusive but strictly different.
Look at the chinese communist party , who are very knowledgeable about power : they were OK with chinese tech billionaires making billions, but as soon as some started to amass some power (at least in terms of shaping the chinese way of life) there was an extremely fierce crackdown.
SafeGrip2021 4y ago
This is the bleed our of feminist cultivated society as we know it. The soft liberal left feeds right into this and we have a society that shuns men for being masculine, who woulda thought. Fuck reddit and fuck that bullshit
wathon2 4y ago
Anyone thinks that this sub is safe from getting banned just because you followed the "rules" has got to be extremely naive or optimistic.
The reason we're not "quarantine or ban" YET is simple because we're not big enough to be on the radar. But now that the other two reddits are gone, guess who they are going after next.
NO Repill and/or right leaning reddit is safe from the leftist ban hammer. NONE. Everyone needs to start making accounts in alternative site like Ruggus and start growing the community there as well.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
See my comment here.
plz_say_sike 4y ago
If we tell reddit the T in MGTOW stands for trans do you think we can get the subs reinstated?
/s
thefudmaster 4y ago
Honestly, who cares about any sub being banned on Reddit. Reddit is run by tech folks who have an agenda, silence anything they don’t consider normal, and female hate subs always get a pass.
Iakhovass 4y ago
Reddit as a company doesn’t care one way or another about these subs. They only care about advertising dollars, and we’ve all seen how spineless companies are when there’s even a slight risk they might lose a consumer. It’s usually driven by the media hyperventilating because some idiots on Twitter took something out of context, and assume that POV represents broad public opinion.
HonoluluLion 4y ago
I think it's weird to act like people who own and run social media companies don't have their own agendas, propaganda, narratives, and beliefs they want to plush on their sites.
Iakhovass 4y ago
Like who? Huffman, who was accused of ‘monetising white supremacy’ by his former CEO? Or majority shareholder Advance Publications which is owned by a family of Jewish billionaires? I gave no doubt that individual admins may have an agenda, but the people who are truly profiting only care about the bottom line.
thefudmaster 4y ago
This^ and it extends beyond politics of the left or the right. The bottom line is key for them.
GucciNarco 4y ago
According to Reddit, the modern Western woman is an innocent creature devoid of manipulation, lies, or anything offensive. This place has turned into Family Court
FormerBTfan 4y ago
Yup agree with all that this sub is also probably in the crosshairs. What's next forearm tats for men? Is does seem like the reincarnation of the brown shirts of of the 1930,s and we all know how that ended up.
7idontknow 4y ago
What were they? I just stumbled across this sub from some other sub where someone was moaning about this place so I thought I'd check it out for the lols
Some great tinder profiles
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago
Try reading the post
WorstIreliaWorld 4y ago
Reddit dug their own grave, everyone go to the mgtow sub on ruqqus you are safe there for now. I wouldn’t be surprised if this sub got shut down too, fuck reddit.
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Yeah I'm pretty much done with reddit. I'm gonna read this sub from Forums.red and deleting my profile.
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MrMcpizzza 4y ago
I agree with Natriumzyanid there were a lot of assholes but the sub didn’t deserve to be banned. You had too many guys stalking women on Reddit and harassing them, doesn’t matter what happened to you in life you don’t mimic female attack strategy, you don’t act like incels, you move on and find something constructive to do...
jhooperp 4y ago
To be fair the “assholes” on MGTOW were the men who were just hurt and as it’s normal they expressed their anger. Imagine being forced to pay an ex you hate money or being forced to pay child support over a kid you priced wasn’t yours?! Those are the types of “assholes” that posted antiWomen things but who can blame them?! Should they just say thank you for using me and just shut up?!
Also a lot of FDS members went in their and posted anti crap to try and get it banned because then their members would go and alert Reddit of that post that they posted there.
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jhooperp 4y ago
No men won’t shoot up a school or whatever because they don’t have a place to vent geez. I hope you’re being sarcastic. These days one never knows.
And mass shootings is still rare when considering crime in general. And mass shooters tend to be off meds and not confined to anger over a break up or society at large.