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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / Entitlement Princess

I’m 40 divorced and only want a tall man that will give me a child. Oh and I want to move soon to a warmer beach state.
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f3m1n15m15c4nc3r 5y ago

How do you know someone’s a Democrat?

Because they’re always fucking tell you!

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snginc 5y ago

She may be in the gym 6 days a week, but what exactly is she doing there?

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KilluminatiGotti2 5y ago

Nope. Scientifically, physiologically pregnancy in mid-to-late 20s is peak, with healthy 30s also being very good.

where did I dispute this?

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redditrat99 5y ago

Look at all the crazy in those eyes

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clybourn 5y ago

I'm going to dedicate my vote for Trump to her empty egg carton. No egg.

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GrumblyBear700 5y ago

Looking at her face while going at it....shudder... (Boromir Shudder) nope.

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Savixe 5y ago

Post-wall, wrinkly, extremely demanding and all she has to offer is her diploma and a desert of an uterus.

I'm sorry lady, u're past your due date.

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rayedward363 5y ago

Maybe she forgot how old she really was? Or reality just hasn't settled in. One or the other.

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Aldabruzzo No busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 5y ago

I really hate the "Trump support as litmus test" entry on a lot of these profiles. I understand why it's there, I just don't like it. First, if any man put an [insert liberal politician's name here] support as litmus test" on his profile, he'd be pilloried from here to the west coast and his head put on a spike.

Second, most of these women don't even understand why they oppose Trump. It's all just "Orange Man Bad". That's all it is. They don't even understand who Trump is or what he stands for. They don't even understand policy positions, politics, or how it works - they just know their friends don't like him because he's "mean" or "not nice" and is "stupid" and he beat Hillary and deprived her of her chance to be the second woman president (Obama being the first). They oppose Trump because they FEEL like they should and because opposing Trump feels right and feels like the right thing to do.

If you like Trump, even if you don't actively oppose Trump, you're a bad human being. You're not only politically wrong, you're bad, evil, sick, perverted, rapey, immoral, and criminal. It's just ridiculous.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

It's a reasonable supposition that a woman with a graduate degree can give a nuanced answer to why they don't support trump, ranging from his chaotic domestic and macroeconomic choices (including breaking campaign promises e.g infrastructure) to his baffling flip-flops on foreign policy.

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Dude looks like a lady.

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BurdenedChad 5y ago

She reminds me of a 38 year old female doctor I was set for a blind date with last year. Fairly fit/trim for a liberal woman her age but had these same kind of dead eyes. Didn't have any hobbies and had basically given her life to her career.

She thought people who didn't have at least a master's were trash. (The happiest and richest guys I know got a bachelor's or went to trade school and knew when to jump into crucial industries and how to manage money)

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Thetrvler 5y ago

Man I’ve dated all types of higher formally educated women and most end up in the same boat- none of them can ever keep a man. I’m thinking of a pharmacist I dated for a while. She had her own nice house, car, great job but absolutely could not keep a man around to save her life. If these women are not 5’5” or below and 120 pounds, they are probably worst off in the dating market than an uneducated woman with a kid.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Reminds me of the old saw. What do lawyers use for birth control?

Their personality.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I’m a MD (guy) but because I’m only 5’8” the RNs and the other MDs don’t want anything to do with me

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warbeastqt 5y ago

Go to Asia and you can have your pick of any women lol

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AspiringMurse96 5y ago

That's quite an average height too. So many immutable thots in my BScN program (85-90% female) are looking for a 'hot' guy that has an engineering or medical degree, and ticks off other frivolous boxes. I get some attention within my cohort, but there's just so much crazy that I've learned to never pursue it: I've already had to deal with one sexual harassment case that was so trivial/subjective that student affairs only gave me a 'warning'.

It's nice though, because they've learned that I don't want to listen to their problems, buy them things, or help with their homework, unless I get a respectable contribution back. I'm getting seriously good grades and actively involved in student/faculty/research groups; medicine is a possibility in the future. I'm much happier and do better with women now that I just care about me and my most loyal friends.

They believe they can have everything, including careers that take over a decade from you to build up; having a healthy family at a reasonable age; a stable husband that doesn't cheat but gives you money and 'freedom'; freedom from work for travel; and their choice of guys to sleep with.

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TheApricotCavalier 5y ago

How much does IVF cost? its probably cheaper to rent a younger woman

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dwc151 5y ago

Post wall harpy seeks a soy boy to give her a baby. She's going to die alone.

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RRFdev 5y ago

She's a simp magnet. Mediocre in looks, draws in soy boys by the dozens.

She divorce raped her last software engineer husband and is now on the lookout for a handsome stud Mr Giraffe next.

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[deleted] 5y ago

If anyone ever asks you what "soulless eyes" look like, just show them this image.

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Honest_Solution 5y ago

What the fuck does supporting Trump have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING? This woman looks decent for 40 but her cuntish attitude and her weird demands about things that don’t matter (heigh and who you voted for) are why she’s single.

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Older_Miggy 5y ago

What the fuck does supporting Trump have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING?

It shouldn't have to do with anything, but for these virtue signaling pieces of Leftist shit, it's all about celebrating diversity until they come across someone who actually thinks differently from them. Then they turn into a bridge troll and spew venom at every opportunity.

I'm actually ok with them saying "no Trump supporters." I see it as similar to those animals we mention here with bright colors, which signifies danger or something like that. These dipshits make it easy to ID them and saves a lot of time and money.

Like them, I too am at that point where I'd never put up with that Leftist shit in my home. So every Democrat I ever meet or know (with the exception of my kids) has been is and will be written off as worthless pieces of shit. Family included. I'm done. Bring on the hot war.

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macktheknive 5y ago

Because that's what the other bees care about, so she must too.

All under the unyielding belief that she's independent minded of course..

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houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 5y ago

What the fuck does supporting Trump have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING?

Politics do matter in regards to a long term relationship (I would not have married my wife if she was a far Left wacko, but thankfully for me she is very conservative. It is not that I required her to align with me politically, but being in the correct general area was sufficient for me), but it sure should not be an opening in the dating profile.

The way I see it, it is similar to a woman saying she would not date you because of something along the lines of "Oh you're a Pisces? Sorry, it's not going to work at all because I am a Taurus, and Pisces and Tauruses just do not work romantically!" It's the kind of criteria that tells you that she is doing you a favor in telling you, because if she is going to have that kind of deal breaker, you are in for a lot worse crap if you were to be in a relationship with her.

On a side note, when I was younger I foolishly thought that it was bad for a woman to reject being with a guy do to horoscope signs, but now I realize that those kinds of women are going to apply that kind of thinking to other parts of her life, which indicates a lack of desire to take responsibility for their lives and apply other stupid thinking elsewhere in life. Again, doing the guy a favor by saving him from a whole lot of stupid.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5y ago

Women have a tendency to take symbols more seriously than the message behind the symbols. This is why women love brand name items but do not wish to know or even care about the work that went into creating those brand name items.

Politics, to these women, is one such symbol similar to astrology. They are not rejecting men on the basis of a well thought out philosophy. Like most things, their decision stems out of their superficiality and the blatant display of that superficiality works against them. Men with any maturity to them recognize, on some subconscious level, that any woman who displays the level of vanity that these women display are not good candidates for a relationship and that they are strictly short term candidates only.

u/lurkerhasarisen, Good flair.

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Honest_Solution 5y ago

She’s not the first I’ve noticed that’s said something along the lines of “no Trump supporters!”. I’ve ducked and gone on dates with liberal women before, some hardcore liberals. Now, granted, that was before they found out how conservative I really am but they had to know by looking at me that I didn’t vote left. Liberal woman can say what they want but conservative men they claim to hate, secretly makes them wet. This woman is no different. I bet if a man cane along that met all her demands except the Trump thing, she’d tolerate it.

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

This is very true. I used to have a huge group of liberal friends and the women absolutely fucking hated the liberal men that qualified to date them. Then a tall, muscular, masculine guy comes by that doesn't kiss their ass (most likely conservative) like the liberal men they chose and they will cheat in a second.

The women were no prize either. They had done some disgusting shit I'm sure they hid from their men.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Super interesting comment... I'm going to think about this. I do like to date men who are slightly more conservative than me, but they still have to have consistency and mostly-shared values. I get irritated by liberal men when they are inconsistent/illogical (especially unexamined neoliberalism). The appeal of conservative leaning can be thoughtfulness and core values -- current administration reflects neither.

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Corran_Halcyon 5y ago

40? And wants kids?

Reminds me of a poem from a meme. Not my meme.

"Once upon a midnight dreary,

while I pondered, weak and weary,

Over many a quaint and curious profile of a tinder whore

while I read it, nearly swiping, suddenly I spied her typing

'Kids? Still want them!' starts the griping,'Even though I'm 44'

'Tis impossible,' I muttered 'Having kids at 44'

Chance of offspring: Nevermore."

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Meme taken from an old archive page. I cannot discern the author, but it is one of my favorites. And it applies beautifully.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5y ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/e8op87/comment/faea62x

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TheApricotCavalier 5y ago

That ones just iconic; I dont even think of it as a favorite. Its too perfect to rate.

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My_Other_Name_Rocks 5y ago

5/7

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Don_Fartalot 5y ago

That thousand-yard stare......the gaze of a woman who knows she is expired goods, is depressed cos of it but is forcing herself to look happy.

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RRFdev 5y ago

And that horse mouth. That very forced smile of someone who is actually unhappy deep down inside, and is ready to infect everyone else with her latent unhappiness.

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TheApricotCavalier 5y ago

All she has to look back on are bad decisions, and forward to consequences

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Honest_Solution 5y ago

She could still pull a decent guy if she changed her attitude. I bet that’s run off more men than you can shake a stick at.

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Don_Fartalot 5y ago

Plenty of thirsty guys ready to debase themselves and grovel. Just look at the success of OnlyFans.

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[deleted] 5y ago

I just had a young women follow me on reddit who has a fans only. Sucks for her I am not the thirsty type.

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EndTimesRadio 5y ago

There are successful older marriages. My grandfather got married late in life, no children, but he was pretty content with his marriage until he died. Both worked, both were good, and he got on with his ex-wife to the point she was welcome to attend family reunions (and did).

Helped grandpa and new-grandma were childhood friends, of course, and that he was honorable to a fault. I mean the guy straight up quit a profitable insurance gig just to avoid ripping off customers in the '70s after they asked him to start writing exploitative policies.

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8bitbebop 5y ago

"I dont suppprt trump" mmmkay

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sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 5y ago

I'll bet she happily accepted her stimulus check though.

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LiberiAdExtremum 5y ago

You cannot teach an old dog new tricks.

You think she's going to change her ways to accomodate a partner?

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MRMRising 5y ago

Also her career is established, now she wants to start having kids, during a pandemic/recession? She will be out of the workforce for 5-10 years, her degree will be worthless afterwards. Providing she even re-joins the workforce.

Any available guy in that age bracket will go for the younger model anyway. She's delusional.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

She probably has savings and a 401K. Sounds like a better person to have kids with in a recession than a woman in her 20s with college debt and no 401K.

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[deleted] 5y ago

yep she definitely has it

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LoosingMyVulcanMind 5y ago

Bingo

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MountTuchanka 5y ago

Wants kids someday

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lady I'm really sorry to tell you this but

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Aldabruzzo No busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 5y ago

She needs to read this.

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I-am-the-lul 5y ago

No man of any self-worth who wants children would waste his time on a 40 year old.

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PSA: While her chances of having any children are very low, but if you think you can raw-dog her and not have to worry about knocking her up, think again, because Murphy's Law can kick in and you might end up in baby-jail for 18+ years paying extra for a special-needs baby.

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Stingray_Department 5y ago

Good one!

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mustangfrank 5y ago

The egg carton is not empty. The hamster is sitting in the middle eating a piece of cheese.

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LghtrThrstngGods 5y ago

OUCH

Will be using this in the future, as needed.

edit: The comment to which I replied said "I'm really sorry to tell you this, but the egg carton is empty."

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redx153 5y ago

No eggs.

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TheTastelessBatman 5y ago

Brain cells: 2

Tit sag: 100

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SuperGoxxer 5y ago

Personal Standards: Infinite

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[deleted] 5y ago

You guys have standards??

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Westernhagen 5y ago

But muh MBA/MS!

MS obviously wasn't in human biology...

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TheTastelessBatman 5y ago

Masters of Bitching About / Masters of Sucking.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

And..Put it Here Deep.

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nikkkkkkkyv 5y ago

https://youtu.be/q14C32Z_jJQ

Edit: I have no clue how to change the name of the link.

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GerinX 5y ago

Lol ooh ouch.

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SteveRogers311 5y ago

Want's post wall kids....lol. ok....good luck with that.

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La_Lechuga 5y ago

My mom had another one at 44. Never tell me the odds.

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AngryCockOfJustice 5y ago

The bearer of the bad news and reality?

How dare you

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5y ago

https://images.app.goo.gl/kSqXRDroc2Eh1LTL6

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Alpha_Black_Knight 5y ago

And she claims to have an MBA. Must be in gender equality

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[deleted] 5y ago

Wouldn't be surprised if she is working as a Chief Diversity Officer or some other bloated crap like that.

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Comeino 5y ago

Not all women get menopause at the same time, 40 doesn't necessarily mean she wont be able to have kids.

Tremendously harder? Yep

Impossible? No

My good friend who is now 24 was birthed late by his mom who was 47 at the time. She didn't actually think she could have kids, she was severely malnourished since childhood and lived in a really poor family and always had issues with her periods which sometimes could be missing for months. She kind of gave up on the idea that she would have a typical family and her husband died from a heart stroke when she was 42. She re-married at 45 and didn't use protection since she thought she went through menopause already and was unable to conceive before anyway and then boom, pregnant at 46. His mom really loves to tell this story since he was a miracle baby and the weirdest thing is that he has a younger sister who is 3 years younger than him.

So yeah, not all eggs are made equal.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Yes. The genetic degradation of eggs -- much like the genetic degradation of sperm -- begins around 40, but many women are fertile until menopause (50s). It's just not a great idea to wait until 40s because you only get 12 eggs a year (unless IVF) and even the gradual genetic degradation become statistically relevant. But it's still quite possible to have healthy children in your 40s. (A 43 year old friend of mine just had an oops baby -- 3rd child and they can afford it -- with her husband.)

BTW, I'm all for men getting their kids out of the way, too. As a woman in my 40s, I have NEVER wanted kids, and I'm actually relieved that men generally don't pressure me for that anymore. (Most high-quality men want kids, which is fine, but since I don't want them, I break up with the child-wanting dudes once it's obvious we're at an impasse.)

Anyway, my point is that I date guys in their late-40s-to-early-50s and sometimes they still want kids (despite being bachelors up to that point). It's baffling and annoying -- who wants to be taking care of a kid in their 70s?? -- but also a hubris about the genetic fitness of aging sperm. Though the statistics are better since 50% of your sperm can be degraded and you still have a better shot (haha) at producing a healthy child.

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Uhtred_McUhtredson 5y ago

“Well my friend wasn’t born with two heads, so women should give birth into their 50’s...”

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Exceptions don't prove the rule. If you find a sexy young girl who is a black belt in Ju Juts who can beat up an average guy, it does not follow that all women can beat up the average guy. It is BEST for womyn to breed before 25. It is downright dangerous for womyn to breed after 35 and frankly should be illegal after 40 (to use fertility treatments- if it just happens I guess a praise the Lord is in order because that is going to be rare).

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mr_kuk 5y ago

No one is saying that there is a Patriarchal law, that the Patriarchy somehow has forced on nature, dictating that all women should stop having periods at 40. There is not law that dictates that no 47 year old woman should not have babies or is not even able to be allowed to think about possibly maybe having babies.

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What I'm saying is that even if miracles do happen, one of the characteristics of a miracle is its rarity, does not mean that one should bet all of one's eggs on that basket. You describe the miracle that your good friend's mom experience as something achievable, not only achievable but mandated by decree from heaven to be achievable, by all women. What you say is absolutely pleasant to hear, but gives false hope. Just because a miracle could happen at 47, doesn't mean that is the rule, that is the exception. This queen could absolutely have amazing healthy kids at 40, 50, 60 and even 60, miracles don't care about numbers. Heck, some dude in some holy scripture had a wife who gave birth and she was like super old and post menopause.

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A man's concerns should be, if he were to be in the market for marriage and children:

What does this woman offer that a 20 year old debt free virgin can not offer cheaper, better, faster, firm-lier (you sly dog I know where you mind went), cheerfull-ier, innocent-lier, enthusiastic-lier Ad mother fucking infinitum and generally better?

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The answer is nothing, not a single thing. He may marry her out of pity or desperation, but never by choice.

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But, you might say, she offers experience. She has been through so much and so many relationships, she knows what she wants. Well, she has been around. What makes you think that this time she's gonna stick around?

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HiredNote 5y ago

This is the reason why women continue to delude themselves about being able to have kids past 40. They delude themselves that an exception trumps the general rule.

Just because one chick every once and a while manages to have a healthy baby past 40, doesn't mean it's something you should strive for. And just because Pedro managed to move from cashier to district manager for McDonalds doesn't mean McDonalds it's something you should strive for.

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Cristoff13 5y ago

If she puts "Wants kids NOW" it might scare off those tall, good looking, ambitious business executives she's trying to attract.

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K33M_5T4R 5y ago

Yep, that's a big schnozer if I've seen one

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JayMeadows 5y ago

The word you're looking for is "Horse Face."

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LghtrThrstngGods 5y ago

In other, happier, news -- /r/butterface (NSFW warning).

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

How do you ignore the burn your bed look in the last pic? This one still thinks she is 20 and has seen more caulk than a Home Depot.

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ntvirtue 5y ago

The majority of business execs vote for Trump too.....she has narrowed her field down to people that don't exist

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5y ago

Here is the problem: they all think that they are in the 99th percentile. If they are beautiful, they think that by virtue of their beauty alone they are exceptional. If they are not beautiful enough, they become slutty and think that because men think that they are "hot" (aka slutty) enough to be exceptional. Most women do not know their true worth and in all likelihood will never hear what their worth is. Even if they do hear it from someone directly or indirectly (by having their advances rejected), they will reinforce their belief that they are exceptional. The rampant women are wonderful effect does not do either gender any favors.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5y ago

Women's mating market value (whether it is long term or short term) is not determined by themselves. It is determined by men. The only thing women can do to influence this judgement is to abstain from certain behaviors at their peak, which to them is their youth. If a woman has spent all her time on one venue and has developed skills pertaining to that venue, men will judge her and categorize her based on the venue she chose and the skills she possess there.

I do not agree with the claim that a woman who tanked her prospects for marriage can "better" herself and make herself a worthy marriage candidate. Once a ho, always a ho.

I have nothing much to say to ugly women (who want to shoot out of their league) other than that they should learn to shoot within their league and to develop a realistic expectation of what their league is.

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5y ago

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Problem is, most of the scenarios we are discussing here are only possible if

  1. the woman makes a rational and logical decision to find a man who is at her level or below her level. We know that women rarely make this decision and even if they do, they do it at the absolute last minute and treat the men they settle for like dog shit. Personally, I would rather those men be spared the company of these rotten women than for them to deal with these women in any capacity.

  2. the men (whether they are RMV=5 or 2) these women decide to settle for are not aware of their past (by outright lie or omission etc.) or are ok with it. If these men are ok with it, which most men are being conditioned to be, then these women will not respect them and will belittle them and will end up treating them like dog shit evenutally. If the men did not know, some (if not most) will break up the relationship for the lying and inflation of her value. Personally, I would not think twice about breaking up with a girl who is used goods but prentended to be brand new. It will not matter how attractive she is or how much I invested in that relationship, I will be ready to take that loss.

While I do understand your point and agree that women can "win". But, they mainly rely on the relaxed standards of men and their ignorance. While a high value man is their fantasy but a high value man with high standards is their nightmare. Since our intention here is to encourage men to become that guy and to be very very selective, I want to show men how to become better and what to avoid in women. No one can change their pasts. While maturity works in favor for men, women are valued for their innocence. Innocence, once lost, can never be regained whatever effort one puts into regaining it.

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Terrible_Presumption 5y ago

I'm sure there are plenty of business professionals who have liberal agendas going on also.

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ntvirtue 5y ago

No argument there! (Silicone valley) Would be curious to see actual numbers.

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rhe1 5y ago

how selfish is this woman. Let's think about it. Age 18 is an idealbage for a normal woman to consider giving birth to a healthy and normal child. Age 28 can be risky in some situations. Age 38 can be risky in most situations. And she's 40? Again, how selfish is this woman. That child will most likely have several ( many ) health / mental issues. What kind of life is that ? I should know. I became a father at 35. My wife at the time was 36. My child has several issues. And it's horrible. Again, that's selfish and foolish to even think about kids after age 30. But that's just me.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Actually, the peak BIOLOGICAL time for child-bearing is 24-32 years of age. Assuming a woman takes reasonable care of herself, she is LESS likely to have pregnancy complications in her late 20s than at 18. Genetically, eggs are still just as healthy at 18 as 32, and the genetic degradation in late-30s-to-early-40s is gradual, not exponential (btw, sperm starts degrading at 40, too), though complications do rise. You can literally look up the science on this.

Go ahead and spout opinions about desirability or cultural-circular-logic about what men find attractive. But get your biology facts correct.

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mustangfrank 5y ago

I worked with a woman at Shell. She was 40, single, and trying to haev a baby. She was seeing all kinds of doctors. Why didn't she think of that when 25? I don't know if she was a professional CC rider, but wanting at kid at 40 seems a bit late and she was not married.

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geo_gan 5y ago

It’s funny that society in general turns a blind eye to these very late dangerous and costly in the long term pregnancies that women seem entitled to at a very late stage. But I guess nobody is going to speak up because that would go against the feminine imperative that runs modern western society.

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

Please stop ruining her fantasy with reality.

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justiceavenger2 5y ago

Ironically if not for feminism she would have had her fantasy. Now she is 40, childless, single,and hates the president most likely solely because of what CNN told her to believe.

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Bruchibre 5y ago

Sorry to read that your child has issues. Are they linked with your wife being 35 when he/she was born?

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alcoholmyopia 5y ago

The odds are pretty good, yeah. 35 is ancient to become a new mom. The evidence is coming in that even being a new dad at 35 isn't optimal.

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rhe1 5y ago

yes they are.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

At least you understand your child’s suffering. My parents blame me for being a failure even though they had me late and I have developmental disorders -_-

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rhe1 5y ago

Imho they didn't want to take blame for what they did. Take that with a grain of salt. I don't know the facts. As such, I am guessing. At best.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

My dad never wants to take accountability for anything so you’re probably right.

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dre702 5y ago

You’re completely wrong if you think women should be giving birth at 18

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exposethenose 5y ago

wasnt the "ideal" age like 16 or something? atleast he tries to keep it legal

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submit3r 5y ago

Like they did for basically most of human history?

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Tyler-Durden825 5y ago

We are not living in basically most of human history.

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geo_gan 5y ago

18 was very old for most of human history.

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dre702 5y ago

Just logically it doesn’t make sense. Obviously 40 is way too late but 18 in this day and age is too young. Most of the people having kids at 18 are definitely not ready to be parents

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justiceavenger2 5y ago

From a society standpoint yes, but from a biological standpoint it makes perfect sense for a woman to have a baby at 18. If not 18 then definitely in her early 20s.

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KilluminatiGotti2 5y ago

We’re not talking about the current societal landscape, we’re talking about health issues. Physiologically, 18 is a very healthy age for child bearing.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Nope. Scientifically, physiologically pregnancy in mid-to-late 20s is peak, with healthy 30s also being very good.

Historical peaks reflect overall death rates several decades lower than today's averages -- if there's a 70% chance you're going to die by the time you're 32, of course you have kids sooner (not that, historically, women had a choice about what's best for their health and body). It's just not relevant today, and we have the benefit of true biological peak.

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KilluminatiGotti2 5y ago

Have there been clinical trials and credible sources you can provide to support that assertion?

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Yes. Google is your friend. (This argument is actually irrelevant to me, but have fun finding credible data to support your side.)

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KilluminatiGotti2 5y ago

I don’t have the time or energy to scour google for sources and then interpret the data against your confused ramblings. What is “my side” exactly though?

All I stated that is that physiologically 18 years old is a healthy age for child bearing, I didn’t say it is the most optimal age, nor did I say the 20-30 age range was not a healthy age range, so I’m confused at what you’re even disputing here.

Are you implying that 18 is not a healthy age for conception, because that’s literally the only claim I made. lol

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kickulus 5y ago

modern medicine has come a long way. you know people started at 18 cause child mortality rate was incredibly high? let's not be fucking retarded here.

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KilluminatiGotti2 5y ago

I think puberty and the female ovulation cycle would like to have a word with you.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

That’s society’s fault.

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Uhtred_McUhtredson 5y ago

Ideally a 22-24 year old college graduate male, or just a dude with a good trade could pick up an 18-20 year old chick before she gets corrupted by society and make a good go of a family.

Or if everyone just followed my plan to shorten the school year and get rid of summer break, we could graduate everyone at 16 and they could greet the world at 18 with 2 years of junior college or two years of apprenticeship under their belt already.

Like you say, it’s society’s fault.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

Not a bad idea, but hyper-capitalist society doesn’t want anyone to settle down until they are “fulfilled” in their careers, done paying off a six figure student loan debt, and have a fully paid off house...

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Yuuzhan83 5y ago

Capitalism is actually against how colleges operate.

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motorbiker1985 5y ago

That has nothing to do with capitalism. By far the highest age at first birth is in semi-socialist welfare country Greece. USA doesn't even make it to top 15.

It is not about structure of economy, it is about societal beliefs. Even if you a the moment of your graduation inherited a house in the suburbs and a sum of money large enough to pay off your student loans, you will still find it pretty impossible to find a quality girl of your age willing to settle down and start a family.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

True, but societal beliefs are largely shaped by corporate/govt propaganda. Who do you think financed feminism and thought it would be a good idea to double the workforce overnight and destroy the family unit for the allure of “financial freedom”? The people in power know exactly what they’re doing, and they’re laughing all the way to the bank while the country burns.

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geo_gan 5y ago

Where I’m from, with the price of houses and low wages and length of mortgages, you’d be lucky to be finished paying it off before you are in your 60s

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

And that’s if you’re lucky...

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jazzcomplete 5y ago

Most of human history was horrible so that's not a good argument.

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submit3r 5y ago

Millions of people starve to death every year. It's still horrible.

We aren't talking about that. We are being very specific. Don't inflate the subject matter by beating it with strawmans.

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jazzcomplete 5y ago

No - if you make a general non-specific argument others can make a general non-specific rebuttal. If you look at quality of life and wealth stats they correlate with slightly older childbirth. I'm not talking about cuck nonsense here I'm saying a bit older than 18.

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submit3r 5y ago

I'm talking about the "perfect" (ie: CLOSE ENOUGH) biological age for women to get pregnant, and your bringing up God knows what.

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jazzcomplete 5y ago

Fair enough I see what you are saying. It's a single data point though and not necessarily the most important from a Darwinian perspective

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submit3r 5y ago

From a darwianian perspective, having the women being in her best state of genetic fitness (which would include she is well fed and cared for as well) is the only important point.

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alcoholmyopia 5y ago

That's pretty much all they are good for, dude.

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GerinX 5y ago

Try 23. That’s a perfect age for a woman to have a baby FROM AN EVOLUTIONARY STANDPOINT BECAUSE her plumbing is most able, but depends on how well she is financially.

Social aspects, career goals, lifestyle choices will always play a factor and she may choose to have children later.

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alcoholmyopia 5y ago

Why? If it's because she's just getting out of college and getting her cArEeR going then that means she probably has debt.

I guess the workhorse (male) can just pay her debts, though.

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GerinX 5y ago

No, no, no, don’t misunderstand me. From an evolutionary standpoint, her plumbing is perfect for breeding.

But from a social, financial, career oriented aspect, yes, it’s far too early.

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alcoholmyopia 5y ago

As being social goes, she needs to just have a few friends and get the fuck off Instagram. Financial? Rely on the man. Career? Stay at home.

18 is perfect.

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OfficeDiplomat 5y ago

This is as moronic as this lady, just the other end of the spectrum. 18 is way too young to be a Mom due to maturity of women in society today and most babies born to women in their 30's are healthy. After 40, usually they are just not fertile any longer though.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Your standard is it is OK if "most" are OK.

Are you serious? What if it is 10% risk? WE have shut down the damn country over a less than 1% risk of dying from COVID if you even get it- and you think a 10% risk of having a screwed up child for life is acceptable? Because, hey, 90% of kids born to decaying old moms are just fine.

As Obiden and Bama might say: Come on man.

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OfficeDiplomat 5y ago

By most it is more than 99% safe...I do not know where your 10% BS stat came from.

Parenthood in the 30's is becoming the normal majority in the developed world and will continue to do so.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

The latest women should be having babies is 25. We need to stop coddling young girls and teach them how to be women by age 18.

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Zyl3 5y ago

So females over 18 without kids are not women?

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

That’s not what I said. Girls are biologically ready to reproduce after puberty, but we should mature them mentally by 18.

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Hallitsijan 5y ago

Doesn't matter how mature a woman is biologically. Mentally she'll never evolve past 12 ;)

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

Preach brother

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Uhtred_McUhtredson 5y ago

You’re getting downvoted, but people don’t seem to like science when it counters their preprogrammed beliefs.

They just released a study that the natural human lifespan is 38. After that, it’s all downhill.

If we returned to traditionalism and families and communities helped young people pair up, it could work.

Just gotta ween em off the teat of social media and advertising’s false promises.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Nah, you also need to stone adulteresses, institute strong families, and enable shaming and banishment.

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Uhtred_McUhtredson 5y ago

Sounds like you need help, fren

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Yep! It certainly takes a full group to pull all of that off.

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SupremeGentleman92 5y ago

Exactly. Life may have been simpler in old times but it was more fulfilling.

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Yuuzhan83 5y ago

Working 7 16 hour days a week was more fulfilling?

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Yes, it’s quite fulfilling. Try it some time.

Its called a surgical residency training program.

In fact that would be considered a light schedule....

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Yuuzhan83 5y ago

Lol. Hey all the power to you if you can do that.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Google DaVinci robot... that’s my favorite thing to use....

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

Sadly for her, she's too old to make the kind of demands that she is.

You can tell that this woman was once a real hottie, probably an 8 out of 10 who used to turn a lot of heads when she entered a room.

At forty, and desiring a child, her options are remarkably slim.

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atm4414 5y ago

Looks like the type that would take your credit card and go on a shopping spree. She would then blame this on you for not giving her enough attention.

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the40yearoldincel 5y ago

Of course her demands are this high, because she believes she's entitled to men of that caliber.

As you said, yeah, she was probably a looker in her 20's and early 30's. She rode the CC with a lot of Chad's, so she's still expecting Chad, but with a resources and responsibilities only an beta man would be willing to provide her with.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Look: she DID marry young (she's divorced) and it didn't work out. So at the very least, she was marriage-minded in her 20s.

Maybe she married a hot jerk and realized it was a mistake. Maybe she cheated (like ya'll seem to automatically assume) and that ended things. Or... maybe he was impotent, and it's really important for her to have genetic children with her spouse.

But she could (theoretically though improbably) have had one sexual partner in her life.

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redsenior 5y ago

Perhaps she will find a 60 year old dude.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Or a 50 year old dude who still wants kids, as I know anecdotally they're out there.

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LgGoodboy 5y ago

I read this as if it was narrated by David Attenborough

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geo_gan 5y ago

Yeah like he is describing some previous matriarch in herd who has now been replaced by better younger one.

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

Now that you've said it... I can't stop reading it in his voice...

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jamiehands 5y ago

And sadly...she will die alone and without a mate.

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MarkBoabaca 5y ago

a real hottie, probably an 8 out of 10 who used to turn a lot of heads

Where? At the race track? The stables?

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moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 5y ago

Exactly. I don't see how she was ever attractive. She might have been good looking enough in her youth for you to discount her unfeminine face, but her genetics or her rampant cock addiction did not do her any favors.

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

You know what? I love this sub, I really do. It's one of the very few places on Reddit (hell, the entire internet) that I can be both educated and brought to tears with laughter in the same thread.

But you are wrong here. People who say that this woman wasn't attractive or couldn't have gotten a resonable mate when they were younger are wrong. A woman who's a 7 (probably what she was as a 24 year old) could easily find such a man. Fact is, she chose other priorities (which she is entitled to do, of course) and now wants someone out of her reach.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Actually, as she's divorced, she was marriage-minded in her 20s. Why it didn't work out is pure speculation. She really wants kids -- maybe her husband was impotent?

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

That's actually quite a good point I'd glossed over! Thanks!

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Red_Pill_Dynamics 5y ago

The delusion they have never seems to end.

Surely she looks in the mirror and sees the 20 year old she was 20 years ago, and although she isn't that anymore, her demands are still the same as they used to be, have always been and will always be.

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Thinguy123 5y ago

Surely she looks in the mirror and sees the 20 year old she was 20 years ago

Or as i like to call it, "The 2000's was not that long ago right?" effect

In my country there's (or was, based grandmas are rare nowadays) a saying among grandmas towards young women "No toda la vida las vas a poder" (You aren't gonna be able carry them all your life) refering to the female body, Meaning in a more literal sense, that tits and ass get saggy with age, you are unable to keep carry your perky tits and tight ass forever, and it will fade, and you would not even notice.

And goddamn aint that the truth, suddenly you are 34 and your awesome tits that opened you the doors of the world during your 20's are flappy and pointing down, your ass is full of cellulitis and feels like cookie dough

But in your mind and mirror you still see the 20 years old, People (more common in Females than males IMO) see themselves in the future as a different person (ie. in 5 years im gonna do x) because you are giving that responsability to your future self because you think that person is a completely different of the person of the today (The Stacy of today does not see herself as a Karen of tomorrow)

And the complete opposite when looking into the past ("5 years ago i had all the dates and chad cock i wanted, what happened im still the same!!")

And if you were unable to secure a partner when you "could carry them" then it gets harder as the time goes on, (being a single woman in rural Mexico back in the day was being the laughingstock of the town or everyone would snicker at their backs calling them harpies who tried to steer women into their own wrong direction) And god forbid, if you were a single mother you better be a goddamn widow struck by a tragedy, the sluttery of today would get you shamed to the next galaxy.

Mexican grandmas of old (more in small towns) are/were one of the most redpilled and based people you could ever know.

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

Stop it, all those commercials and billboards say she is still vibrant and relevant. Of course she is.

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geo_gan 5y ago

“You’re worth it”

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motorbiker1985 5y ago

20 years ago.

Around the time google just started, windows 98 and 95 were in full use, people were switching from cassettes to CDs, most people have never heard about the idea of digital camera, smartphones didn't exist at all and when on the airplane, the captain sometimes allowed kids to go to the cockpit to look at the controls.

Yup, that was the era she should have had kids and the last time she looked nice.

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geo_gan 5y ago

You think people didn’t have digital cameras in the year 2000?

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motorbiker1985 5y ago

Very few people had digital cameras at that time. Many didn't even heard of them (I love photography, have digital and film cameras, my own darkroom and I collect cameras as well).

My parents actually went crazy and bought a digital camera in 2001 and it was weird, quite a novelty back then.

We often forget how the world changed in the past 20 years.1 years ago in San Francisco many people didn't have internet at home and Union Square was filled with students using laptops to catch the slow public wifi.

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geo_gan 5y ago

I bought an Eos 1D Mk II in 2001. Since you say you know photography I presume you know of them.

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motorbiker1985 5y ago

Here we go again... I said:

- most people have never heard about the idea of digital camera

and

- Very few people had digital cameras at that time. Many didn't even heard of them

Let me repeat - those cameras did exist, but were a rare sight and quite a novelty. Also terribly expensive.

Several years ago I bought a used digital compact camera that was made in 1999, however when that camera was new it was about as expensive as a good quality used car. (I use it for IR, the hot mirror does not work well on the older models.)

"I bought an Eos 1D Mk II in 2001. Since you say you know photography I presume you know of them."

So, you claim that in 2001 you bought a camera (with the prices tag of a new small car) that was released in 2004? Can I borrow your time machine? I need to go tell past myself to invest into bitcoin.

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geo_gan 5y ago

Sorry yes I had the eos 1D mk1 in 2001 and then the 1D mk2 2004. Body cost £4,000 and a 4GB compact flash cost £400 at the time. Then I had to get the Canon 16-35 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 L-series lenses to go with it. Another £5,500 or more.

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motorbiker1985 5y ago

The body - that was the price of a small car back then.

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NickTesla2018 5y ago

Again a million times, the guy she's looking for can date younger women.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Or he does not exist.

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Faulkey 5y ago

I’m not a Trump supporter, nor a supporter of anyone by any means. BUT, any profile that just says ‘Trump supporters swipe left’ leave a bad vibe for me and I just don’t swipe right.

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[deleted] 5y ago

Maybe she can trade her degree in for babies? I don't think it works that way, though.

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XSasuken22X 5y ago

She’s crazy

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VetteVet83 5y ago

She prefers taller than 5’10”, I prefer younger than 40. I guess we won’t match. I’m 6 foot tall but she’s over 40.

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[deleted] 5y ago

Crazy eyes.

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

That is the look of desperation. A lot of post wall 30+ women get it. I can just imagine the monologue in their brains; please be nice to me, please tell me I belong, I'm not too old right? I can still find love...

no, no, yes and a big Noooooo

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SirKolbath 5y ago

“Guns or dogs in your profile will get you swiped right. Being childish enough to order someone away because of who they support politically will get you left.”

Literally the only real thing in my Tinder profile.

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

I'd swipe right.

But then, I'm a guy.

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BeaStanellosGhost 5y ago

/r/SuddenlyGay

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oif3gunner 5y ago

Nothing wrong with finding bros, you can go shooting together and talk about tinder trash!

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

I live in England, dude. Not sure we can go shooting anywhere!

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oif3gunner 5y ago

Come visit your cousins over here, we have guns for days.

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

Who knows, when this COVID-19 shit is all over, I may well do a bit of exploring! Will probably avoid New York though...

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oif3gunner 5y ago

Chicagoland here.. Let me know!

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MattyK414 5y ago

Career girl divorcee, with no kids...who wants kids...at 40.

Trump exudes masculinity, so she hates that. "Girl power", and such. I'm sure she's really formidable on politics and world affairs.

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Endofthewest 5y ago

She's already insane, at least insane eyes

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Four-Triangles 5y ago

Yeah this one is a stretch. It’s okay to be 40 and single.

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VIETnamPTSD 5y ago

speaking from a biological point of view it is not okay to not have offspring when you are 40. Because nature wants you to have as many children as possible.

Also, it doesn't help society when you wait until you are 42 to have a child, because that child will be 20, when you are 62 and about to retire. 1 worker for 2 retirees.

This "aging of society" as i call it, will force young people in their 20's to finance the retirement of their parents and makes it more difficult for them to start a family of their own.

If you are 25 when you bring a child into this world, the child will be 20 when you are 45, plenty of time before retirement. And if your child also gets pregnant at 25 that means when you are 70, there is a 45 yr old child of you and a 20 yr old grand-child of you: 2 workers for 2 retirees.

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RRFdev 5y ago

She’s just a hard working woman who probably had a husband for a while but there were some fights and they had to split.

More like she got promoted then decided to off her marriage. I've seen this so many times in modern marriages. In fact, the earlier a wife gets promoted during her marriage, the more likely she is keen on divorcing her husband.

A marriage is seen as a siphoning of resources for women, and one the man's presence is no longer necessary, the marriage is terminated.

She offed her marriage even before she managed to get kids, thinking that she could do better. She thought to herself, "Ohh, since I divorced young I can still hook up easy, sleep my way to another marriage, this time not with boring Billy Beta Bux, but with Mister Big!" Then she realized that no one wanted to wife up a materistic gold-digger with no sense of loyalty and here she was, forever divorced, never able to have kids.

She thought she could change her fate by working out 6 days a week. But nope.

Her husband was a shortie and a soyboy simp, but since she got promoted and exercises, she thinks she deserves a hot stud. Never mind the fact that Miss Horsemouth was exactly the looksmatch of the simp ex-husband she married.

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clamweed 5y ago

this seems like a massive assumption to make though. like i understand it can happen but come on dog, you’re really gonna assume that? even when she’s not acting like a bitch on her dating profile? big leap man. i know people like this sure and it happens too often, but for each person i know like that i know five women who are just trying to be happy.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Of course they are trying to be happy but it is not our job to make their dreams cum true after 90 partners, no eggs and an arrogant entitlement that is as offputting as hilldogs throaty cackle.I

This is not a leap. This is almost certain reality.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

At forty you have a 7% chance per month of getting pregnant. You have a 50% chance of a spontaneous miscarriage if you do get pregnant. So, a 3 or 4 % chance per month if you start trying to have a kid this second.

IVF has about a 20% success rate.

Eliminating anyone under 5’10” leaves you with 40% of the male US population.

35 % of the male population is single (not married or dating).

60% of the male population voted for trump.

As the OP I know where she lives. 25 % of households don’t own a car in her city.

(.4 x . 4 x .35 x .75 ) = 4.2%

With no further criteria — she has eliminated 95% of men.

The remaining 5 % may not want to date her, as they are tall, own a car and have a bevy of liberal (younger) women to date in a big city.

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clamweed 5y ago

why would you include the single factor in there? she has eliminated 95% of men in america i guess, but it’s pretty obvious she’s not trying to date married men. if anything, she’s eliminated 85% of men she would date. she said i prefer above 5’10”, so i’m gonna take it that if you’re spectacularly funny or rich and 5’9” she’ll accept you. 0.5x0.4x0.25 is gonna get you 15% of the male population. she would date 3/20 single people. three out of twenty is surprisingly a lot. you pool together twenty single guys randomly and most people, let alone most women, wouldn’t date three out of those twenty. You bring up the average chances of having a child? That’s pretty ridiculous though. Seems like her choice, as well as the fact I’d assume a person who’s that active, has a healthy lifestyle, and went to university would visit a doctor every so often. the stat “50% of pregnancies at age 40 spontaneously miscarriage” doesn’t apply to everyone. some women have higher likelihoods of having miscarriages and some do not. they become more exaggerated as women grow older. i know a woman who miscarries three times at like age 25. i also know a woman who had three children after she was 40. you’d think at three percent her doctors would have said “hey don’t have another child, it’s a bad idea”. but there’s the crazy part. some women STILL CAN HAVE KIDS! crazy right?

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butt_uglee 5y ago

There are women at 50 that can have children (about 400 a year in the USA)

It doesn’t mean it’s a sure thing or a good idea.

I’m not trying to shit on her dream. Go try to have a kid. Just be realistic, it likely won’t happen.

I included the “single factor” because I’m showing you what fraction of the total male population she is excluding.

At 40, a large number of tall, attractive, liberal males living in a big city are already married.

I would posit that the type of men she is looking for is MORE likely to be married than a 65/35 split at her age.

I would also posit that a tall, attractive, liberal single male in a big city could date someone more fertile than her....

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clamweed 5y ago

you’re right, finding a suitable mate at 40 is hard. doesn’t mean she should settle for someone who she won’t love. her expectations aren’t unrealistic. being 5’10” is not that tall. having a car isn’t very uncommon. i also personally doubt a man her age would be dating someone so significantly younger and more “fertile” than her. i thought the point of this subreddit was to showcase women who have fucked over men in their lifetime, and just want a guy who makes 100k+ to support her and her three kids and take them out to dinner every night and shit. this woman is not asking for that. all she wants is to find a guy that she could possibly have a child with. sure it’s unlikely but she’s done nothing to show that she doesn’t deserve it. she’s active and probably attractive for a forty year old. (idk i’m 18 not really into forty year old women) she’s not obnoxious or showing a blatant disregard to her ex-husband. she might be shooting for the moon, but she isn’t going “where are all the good men??”. and that is literally what the community is for.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Ah, but that’s the rub.

If she were asking for something reasonable, she would find it quickly/easily.

There are few 18-25 year old female dating profiles.

There are many 26-32 year old female profiles.

There are massive numbers of 33-45 year old female profiles.

The older a woman gets, the less ANY man wants to date her.

She’s 40.

She has competition from women younger and prettier than she is for men her own age.

There is a surplus of 40 year old women available she has to compete with too. (Otherwise there would be fewer dating profiles)

It is a buyer’s market. She is selling.

Obviously, no-one has offered her asking price (5’11”, Democrat, wants kids, has car, not married).

She can hold out, wait for a better offer than she is currently getting ( meanwhile, her fertility and her beauty rapidly evaporating).

Or she can drop her asking price.

By the very definition, the fact that she is perpetually single means she is being unrealistic.

——- She is attractive.

She was MUCH more attractive when she was 20.

She has squandered her youth and fertility.

She likely had the pick of the litter when she was young a pretty...

No reason with looks like that she couldn’t have a husband/kids by the age of 40...

There are UGLY women that can do it. Why not her?

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clamweed 5y ago

dude, relationships don’t always work. her husband might not have wanted kids? i guess there’s no reason she “couldnt” but if her husband didn’t want them/give them to her, that’s a catch 22 in and of itself. she’ll either be a bitch for leaving him, or fucking stupid for hoping she can have a kid at age forty. it just doesn’t seem like the profile matches the concept of “where are all the good men”. like in what part of this does she ever complain, or ask for a man to pay for her and her children or anything like that. she’s just looking for someone. a woman should be allowed to date at 40. she’s also not asking for something unreasonable, she’s asking for something uncommon. she’s attractive. a forty year old democrat most likely WOULD date her. she’s not done anything wrong. she just needs to find him. and that’s why she’s on the dating app. she’s not crying out where are all the good men, as if her past husband gave her three kids but she left him because she just wanted something new. she just wants to find somebody and it’s hard at that age.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Again

If you are right and she is being reasonable she’ll get what she wants in no time.

As a 42 year old male that live in her area (I’m the OP)

I could do a lot better than her, and there are a 1000 profiles that are less entitled than hers.

But you do you ... when you turn 40, feel free to marry an aging , end of fertility woman, just in time to barely pop out one kid and have her divorce you...

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clamweed 5y ago

dang man. how’s the doing better than her going?

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I don’t know ask my 6 year old daughter.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Who picked her ex-husband ? The one that “didn’t work out”?

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clamweed 5y ago

i’m sorry, have you never been in a relationship? getting together with someone and finding out they’re not right for you later doesn’t mean you have bad judgment. it means one of them changed, wanted something different, or just fell out of love and that happens man.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

With those eyes she fell out of love a whole bunch of times.

She has been a hard corps cc rider for decades.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

At 42 I probably have a lot more relationship experience than you do at 18

And yes, if you marry someone and they decide not to give you children when that was a major life-goal... and you wait till 40 to divorce them .... then you have bad judgement.

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DicamVeritatem 5y ago

Troll spotted.

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Honest_Solution 5y ago

Makes you wonder what kind of other demands she has if this is her showing her “good side”.

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clamweed 5y ago

I mean she probably doesn’t have any other demands if she didn’t put them up. I like this subreddit usually I just don’t get what’s wrong with this one.

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Lameador 5y ago

I think many people got upset at the anti Trump remark. Other than that I sure saw worse profiles on this sub.

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clamweed 5y ago

I mean I won’t lie, I’m not pro-Trump (no hate if you are though idc). I do feel like it would be a hassle to have to deal with someone with completely opposing political views all the time.

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platypoctagon 5y ago

It's the height demand. It's nazi as fuck. She sees short men as human genetic garbage. Of course it's okay, ultimately she is trying to create a better world by producing more tall men, but we short guys are lashing back in the only way that we can, by making fun of her on Reddit. Who is she to be so high and mighty? She wants a man with high-quality genetics to produce a child with high-quality genetics but she's so old her kid will probably come out full of issues anyway, and maybe short too.

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clamweed 5y ago

i don’t think wanting to date a guy that’s the average height is “nazi as fuck”. I also don’t think that dating to marry should come down to her thinking about producing more tall people in the world. she should be allowed to not want to date a guy who’s under 5’10” just like all the other men who complain should be allowed to not want to date a woman who’s over 160lbs. seems to be such a massive point made all the time. some girls don’t mind shorter guys. some do. some men don’t mind tall women. some won’t date a woman if she’s taller than him(which is something i’ve seen quite a bit and i bet you have too). we shouldn’t be forced to open up standards like that. “we short guys”. what a fucking joke. that’s like saying “we white guys” or “we women”. you don’t speak for all short guys. sincerely, clamweed. a 5’7” man.

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platypoctagon 5y ago

The woman in this profile will see you as a piece of trash no matter how many things you accomplish in life.

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clamweed 5y ago

what makes you say that? i wouldn’t date a girl taller than me, but i don’t think they’re pieces of trash.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

Dude. Are you even aware that men and women are different or has your new gf cleared out the cum block and given you a stroke?

Nobody said tall girls are trash. The claim is that most women see short guys as trash. The claim is true and when your unicorn finds a talker guy you will finally take the red pill

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clamweed 5y ago

Dude, I appreciate the warning, but I’m gonna keep it real with you. She HAS had taller men hit her dms. She’s had a rich, tall, black guy hit her up on instagram like three times. She’s had a few other tall guys hit her up as well. Most women don’t see shorter guys as trash as long as you don’t act like this. Yeah, it’s a disadvantage. But that’s all it is. You just need to hone another skill and you’ll be able to make it out fine. Maybe look into being funnier, or maybe a better person to talk to about problems, or anything else women can and will find attractive, and shorter guys will have no problems. We’ve been dating for a year this coming week. My “unicorn” is a real girl. They are everywhere. Posting about the women who don’t date guys under 5’10” (not really unreasonable) and all complaining in a cesspool only strengthens the idea that no woman will date short men. It’s entirely untrue.

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clamweed 5y ago

also, reddit is not the only way for short men to “lash back” dog. just go get a girlfriend. it’s what i did, and you’d be surprised how many women don’t really care. i’m not trying to flex or anything just seems pretty odd to me

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ThaHentaiConnoisseur 5y ago

For some men it's hard because of their height. You know it's true. Well done for you being an exception. But you don't represent all short guys.

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clamweed 5y ago

yeah i’d say it’s tougher. i wouldn’t say i’m an exception though. i was just sort of calling out this guy because he claimed that HE represents all short guys. i don’t either and nor do i claim to. but it really isn’t that hard. besides, any woman who won’t date someone who isn’t tall isn’t really worth anyone’s time anyways. probably pretty vain. now a thing that a reasonable woman might say is “your username is ThaHentaiConnoisseur? gross.

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ThaHentaiConnoisseur 5y ago

Go watch a FaceandLMS stream on youtube. He has male guests that are below 5'4 and women reject them all the time. What's my username got to do with anything?

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clamweed 5y ago

bruh i think that guys who are not short get rejected fairly often as well. probably not as much but still a fair amount. a streaming show where he brings in male guests that he knows get rejected and has them talk about it isn’t really a legitimate source. i was just saying it’s ironic for someone to claim that they don’t get dates ONLY because they’re short and yet publicly show their love for animated pornography. i like hentai too man. i just don’t wear it on my sleeve like that.

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ThaHentaiConnoisseur 5y ago

Ok. Believe in what you want. I never said I was short.

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Dipdrizzle 5y ago

Never look a gift horse in the mouth

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Thetrvler 5y ago

With all due respect, she’s not an attractive polish woman. I live 1.5 hours away from Poland (I highly doubt she’s ever been and is just stating it to make herself sound more interesting than she actually is). In Slavic countries she’s a solid 5.5-6 off looks alone and would get picked over extremely quickly, especially after she started making demands. This is how I can tell she’s in the US.

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boomer_slayer_69 5y ago

God her eyes make me uneasy.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

My GOD! Those eyes. They give me chills deep in my soul.

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mediocre000 5y ago

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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago

Looks like she was cute....

.... around 20-22 years ago.

Kids who were born back then are in their prime sexual cuteness right now!

Think about that.

I'm sure she can find someone who will try to have kids with her, but her chances of marriage are slimmer than her collapsed hair.

He may have to try many times though.

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Black_Jackel 5y ago

God damn those crazy eyes startled the fucked outta me

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meerita Sr. Hamster Analyst 5y ago

95% of these thots are democrats, progregives and commies with iPhones. All they want is take all your money and let the State take care of the rest of them.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I want a bikini supermodel astrophysicist billionaire.

(I can be unreasonable too)

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butt_uglee 5y ago

A) anyone 5’10” is above average, she just excluded over 60% of men in the USA (FYI 5’9” is the average according to the CDC )

B) She wants children at the age of 40. Most people like to date for a year minimum before proposing marriage typically more. Let’s say it takes 2 years. At 42 the risk of infertility and needing IVF (20% success rate) or having to adopt is high. If she is intending to have biological children this is unrealistic.

C) 60% + of men voted for trump in the last election. She is now down to roughly 16% of the male population. ( 40% x 40 % )

D) The rate of being single and male in the USA is about 30% (2017 data 52% married, 12 % dating, 5% no answer). — let’s use 35% we are now down to 5.6% of the population. I’d say limiting yourself to only 6 % of all men is unreasonable.

E) using the term “incel” is not allowed on this subreddit. My sexual status actually has no bearing on the appropriate/inappropriate reasonable/unreasonable quality of her profile. This is what is known as an ad hominem argument.

F) I was using reductio ad absurdum as a logic tool (using hyperbole to show an extraordinary/extreme case to prove a point) — I obviously wasn’t being serious.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

The rate of divorce in a second marriage is 60%

Women institute 70% of divorces

If you want to marry her and give her 1/2 of your assets and future earnings be my guest.

Child support can’t be pre- nuptial agreemented away, even if you can pre- nip the rest.

A) 40+ year old tall, liberal men in a big city have preferences too. They likely can do better than her.

B) she’s not “wrong” wanting a baby. I don’t believe I ever said this.

If she can find someone to have a baby with, more power to her.

Most men will realize the low probability desperate situation she’s in and will be left wondering if she likes him because he’s a willing sperm donor of if she likes him because he’s a really great guy. No one likes to be chosen out of desperation.

Men that want to have kids, if they have the option, will choose a more fertile mate. (Again men are allowed to have preferences too)

C) in a presidential year 60-70% of 40 to 50 year olds vote. Fine. That brings you up to about 7.5 % of the population...

And yes you can have preferences, the more “dealbreakers “ you have, the less likely you will find what you want.

D) unreasonableness is a subjective not an objective term.

What I find unreasonable you find reasonable.

The question is, what would the majority of human beings, looking at the exclusion criteria she has laid out, characterize this as?

If you are a super duper highly desirable male, then having a large number of exclusion criteria is reasonable.

If a man is an ugly, short, unemployed idiot... then having a huge number of exclusion criteria is unreasonable.

I think that she is attractive. I think the type of man she is describing is an order of magnitude more attractive than she is.

I think her bargaining position is poor. Yes she can have standards, but I believe that she has likely set them higher than her own value.

E) Calling a person that agues for a superior race a racist — is a factual assertion. That’s what they are. It may also be insulting.

Calling me an incel without any facts to back it up is only an insult.

Unless you have first hand knowledge of my sexual orientation, activity and frequency, I doubt that you can say with any certainty that your description is correct.

Therefore, it is nothing but a pejorative.

F) no problem — I speak Latin as it was my foreign language in college.

It actually means “reduce toward the absurd”.

Again, I believe that she is asking for more than she is offering in a relationship. You don’t .

As this is a point of opinion, you can’t “win” the argument any more than I can.

Obviously my demand (bikini supermodel astrophysicist) was absurd and unreasonable.

Why? Because 100% of people would agree.

The dating “market” is a pseudo economic one, what you can “get” is dependent on what the other side is willing to “pay” for what you have to offer.

I would leave you with one last thought. If the overwhelming majority of male bumblers are unwilling to match with her (she’s still single and has been for a while) then the “market” has spoken. She isn’t worth what she is demanding so there has been no sale.

The overwhelming majority of men agree with my assessment— otherwise she would have been wifed up or off the market by now.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I just looked it up - at 40, you have a 7% chance per month of getting pregnant, and if you do a 50% chance of miscarriage. So that’s like a 3 or 4 % chance per month of having a baby. If you start RIGHT NOW.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I’m not saying don’t have a child.

I’m saying the chances are poor that she can have a baby and are getting progressively worse every year.

A man that has an option to choose a more fertile woman to date/marry would not be making an illogical decision.

This erodes her ability to find a man, if there are any younger women available.

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EvilKlownz2 5y ago

Well lets see what we have here today.

1) 40 and eggs and dairy free or will be soon.

2) Wants to move to a beach state. Lets say Florida. Cali there would be too much competition and expensive, unless divorce rape was ordered with extra bacon, hold the eggs.

3) so she is looking at finding a Florida man, shoe she can become a Florida woman and attempt to have Florida kids. All aboard this train wreck of future news stories.

4) Wants to have kids at 40. Is that because you lost yours in the divorce, or was your ex smart and knew you wouldn't be a good mother?

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Pet peeve? Dishonest? like you? Also, don't like dudes lying about having kids? Why, don't like someone else's kids that will take the wallet er, attention away from you and your fucking demands. Do me a favor nose Mcgee, don't have kids or dogs. There is already enough suffering in the world. K, nice chat.

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geo_gan 5y ago

Check the label

Use By: 2005

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Vishapstein 5y ago

She lists off so many damn requirements to date her, yet she has nothing to offer. I bet her first husband was a beta cuck and she got tired of him.

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gofortheko 5y ago

She looks like the older uglier sister of the crazy stare meme girl.

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[deleted] 5y ago

She's been the unwitting side piece before.

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

Sorry, toots. You don't get to keep going round and round until you get it right.

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Celestial_Europe 5y ago

The economy is not good to have babies, honestly it's never been since the 70's

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Overkillengine 5y ago

Woof, she looks like a lovechild of Gary Busey that got all the wrong genes from daddy.

She's 40.

And her political leanings, education level, divorced status, and unrealistic hope of having kids at her age are huge red flags that practically scream that she is going to be a mix of arrogant and deluded.

Her demands may not sound like much, but any man able to meet them can do far better than her.

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oh_no_aliens 5y ago

the irony is she looks like a cookie-cutter Trump supporter.

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StarMarch 5y ago

Honestly not a super bad deal. The age is worrying for kids, but other than that, not a big deal moving to the sun-belt (and not being short lol)

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I’m not saying I wouldn’t date her, but that’s it. Long term girlfriend only.

I’m not marrying her and letting her have half my assets/future earnings.

She likely can’t have kids, and she’s already divorced one guy. The rate of failure of a second marriage is 60% and women institute 70% of divorces.

Even if she can have a kid — I don’t want to get stuck paying child support (which you can’t pre-nup)

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StarMarch 5y ago

You're right about divorce recidivism, and then I just remembered that sleeping with a divorced woman counts as adultery, but other than that, it sounds like you're too afraid of divorce. How would you justify marrying anyone, with such fears?

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butt_uglee 5y ago

First marriage is lower divorce rate (50%)

It is lower the fewer # of sexual partners the woman has had.

Pre-nuptial agreement

Religious women are less likely to divorce as well.

It’s a REAL problem though as women have HUGE financial incentive to divorce.

“It’s not that every woman will ruin your life, it’s that every woman has the potential to do so” — unknown

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cum_toast 5y ago

As a Polish man I'd stay very far away, traditionally women are married and have kids by 26 the latest, shes well past expiry and for good reason, she probably a crazy fucking bitch

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DopplerShiftIceCream 5y ago

I'm now officially a supporter of a female Joker in the next Batman movie. Her face is perfect.

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asdf333aza 5y ago

According to advancedfertility(.)com

By age 35, 11% of females were infertile

By age 40, 33% of females were infertile

At age 45, 87% of females were infertile

If using eggs over age 44 with IVF the chance to have a baby is about 1% per attempt (with an average cost of $12,000-17,000, per attempted cycle of ivf)

And that's for women who never took birth control. Actual numbers are expected to be higher in the general population than the folks from the study.

Ole, Rebecca here fell for that modern feminist trap that told them they had all the time in the world. Even at such an advanced age she still has so many demands probably thought she was being generous by letting off the 6ft thing and making her requirement 5'10". Imagine being a proud, strong, modern and independent woman at age 40 having to beg your partners for multiple creampies a day to have even a slither of a chance to have a kid. When she says she wants a baby, she must mean adoption cause fertility at her age is a joke. And that's not even counting the months it will take to get to know her and do dates and all that other crap for a man to even consider her mother material.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

Finally, someone posting data -- although data from an IVF clinic, so... skewed towards scare tactics because they're trying to make a buck... anyway, yes, if she wants her own genetic children badly enough, she should have already frozen her eggs.

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iamadrunk_scumbag 5y ago

You can see the crazy in her eyes if you can get past that massive nose.

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Gravityhurtsbrother 5y ago

I smell kyke. She can smell from 2 states away.

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publicopinions00 5y ago

Crazy Karen eyes

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Wide-Brick 5y ago
  1. Crazy eyes.
  2. Lack of self-awareness.
  3. Delusion.
  4. WAY overconfident.

have fun guys. You can have a relationship with a Karen!!!

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illgiveu25shmeckles 5y ago

I think I know why she’s divorced fam.

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[deleted] 5y ago

she looks like a fucking Karen

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VetteVet83 5y ago

Those bottom 3 pictures are definitely not within the past year. The top one looks about right.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I’m guessing they all are 5 years and 30 lbs old.

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VetteVet83 5y ago

I would smash in a heartbeat. But she’s not getting a ring out of me nor children. She should’ve had that with the husband she had.

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Slygore 5y ago

This profile and look screams 'TV dating reality show' to me.

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TheApricotCavalier 5y ago

Someone should study these older women who think they can still have kids. There's like mass social hysteria or something going on

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BurdenedChad 5y ago

Suspect it has to do with famous actresses/musicians/CEOs giving birth in their 40's. Nevermind the better access to medical care those women have...

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

She has a graduate degree, probably has decent medical care access. (If she's smart, she already froze her eggs.)

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

No one ever told them no. That and all the unnecessary empowerment bs people seem obsessed with lets them think that any choices they make is ok no matter what

but reality says different

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TheApricotCavalier 5y ago

No one ever told them no.

I was having exactly this talk with my brother today. The show 'The Tudors' I think really captures the essence of a King, my brother said 'hes an overgrown child that nobody ever said no to'; which explains a lot of his behavior.

This same observation can be made of women

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BoxofMistakes 5y ago

It's a massive problem in modern dating. Imagine only being able to choose from people so used to being able to do whatever they want that being told no has been twisted into abuse.

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BluepillProfessor 5y ago

We don't have to imagine. We live it every day out of monk mode.

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PenisRice 5y ago

Not sure about you guys but I’m getting the “I’d like to speak with management...” resting bitch face vibes.

I suspect she’d be the kind to diarise your fuck ups and recite them verbatim when the time is convenient.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5y ago

I suspect she’d be the kind to diarise your fuck ups and recite them verbatim when the time is convenient.

I've yet to know a woman who doesn't do that.

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macktheknive 5y ago

Looks like a friendly old male horse.

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MRMRising 5y ago

Another women falls for the BS, she put her career first throughout her most fertile years. Now she is post wall, divorced, in a declining marriage market, during a pandemic/recession. She really thinks she is going to find a man for marriage and start a family??? Any guys in that age bracket have already been married, divorced, and taken to the cleaners in family court.

She has a special kind of delusion.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

As a woman (...who never wanted kids and makes 6-figures...), I completely agree.

I am reading these posts partly out of frustration with my friends: lovely women in their late 30s making terrible decisions for themselves vis-a-vis what they want in life.

One in particular is 35 and wants marriage + kids asap. To her credit, she did not slut-out, rather she had a LTR that didn't result in marriage -- and then when heartbroken, focused too much on her career. In theory she's a reasonable catch: very pretty, graduate degree + great savings and 401K, solid values, family-oriented, and even a decent cook. But despite me pointing out every 3 months that she has to date like it's a part time job and screen out fuckboys, over the last 3 years she's made time for one date a month (if that), and rejects dudes for superficial and/or extremely picky reasons. (And yet she takes time to talk to young hot dudes who only want to fuck her -- she doesn't fuck them, but likes the attention.) She has now frozen her eggs to take a bit of the pressure off, but it doesn't overall help her attitude.

I'm now realizing it's because she's going after what ya'll call Chads, and I guess she's a Carol. These threads will be helpful in me nudging her to stop that nonsense (if she can? ya'll also seem to think it's instinctual...). As her friend, it's annoying to see her squander her chances at happiness.

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tharkyllinus 5y ago

It too late. too late ,too late for love.

well babies anyway.

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LifschitzTal 5y ago

Neeeeiiiggghh

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Canned_tapioca 5y ago

Classic career > life story

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53withtrollhair 5y ago

So I am guessing the Dan Crenshaw/ Bill Maher debate isn't on her must watch list then?

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djm123412 5y ago

Don’t be fooled by Crenshaw, he’s a McCain 2.0

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

English guy here. I follow Crenshaw on Instagram. He seems like a natural heir to Trump... Could anyone comment?

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thisisnotyourconcern 5y ago

For what it's worth, Bill Maher would be considered fairly right-wing in Britain! He isn't, obviously, but you have to remember how far we are down the rabbit hole...

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The_mightiest_punt 5y ago

Sadly, she's not bad looking for 40. But, realistically, the most she could hope for is finding a man in his late 40s who wants to have a plaything.

It's too late for the men who want kids.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

I’m guessing a lot of the photos are a few years old

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doom2345 5y ago

It will take a few years so - 45 - and the prevalence of Down's Syndrome at maternal age of 45 is a whopping 1 in 32. You're really rolling the dice for a lifetime of hardship and, quite possibly, regret.

She took great care of herself and looks great for her age - but it just doesn't make sense to take that kind of risk unless you literally can't get ANY younger woman. In other words - for what she wants - she's unfortunately bottom of the barrel.

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SkyRocker909 5y ago

Considering that she doesn't have kids, goes to the gym 6 times a week and eats healthy, she's still ten times better than the majority of women at her age.

That nose tho... But I bet she would look 8/10 or better after a quality rhinoplasty even with all those wrinkles.

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Autisticus 5y ago

Id like to congratulate this person on a successful female transition!

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Buchwild 5y ago

Look at that soul-less stare, this is the worst I've seen in a while

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[deleted] 5y ago

Those dead-fish eyes! Jesus ! And the fake, frozen smile. Life has left her body a long time ago.

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Jake4523 5y ago

That's gonna be a no from dawg

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BIG_HUB 5y ago

There’s a reason she’s divorced, I’ll bet her ex is thanking God he was able to shake her off. I can only imagine the hell she put him through. I’ll bet in their marriages death throws she poisoned his fish tank and demanded custody of his chihuahua. .

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ecowpebot 5y ago

r/suspiciouslyspecific

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blacktortoise69 5y ago

Why would someone from Poland not like Trump?

Lack of border security lost their country its sovereignty for decades when they got cucked by Germany and Russia

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Hostile-Bip0d 5y ago

Brainwashed, all brainwashed, 99% who claims hating trump don't even know why he "hates" him or falsly attribute

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Schlag96 5y ago

I've only ever seen liberals make any requirement on beliefs in dating profiles. Don't they know most men who have attained the kind of lifestyle their hypergamy demands are conservative? They're shooting themselves in the foot. Then again, if they were smart they wouldn't be liberals.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

There are a few liberal billionaires (gates, Bloomberg) but on the whole, unless you are a professor (chairman) at a college, most people that have a lot of $$$ tend to lean conservative.

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DicamVeritatem 5y ago

Damn near every masculine, successful man ever is conservative. Successful soyboys (Gates) are sometimes libs.

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jeankev 5y ago

That's virtue signaling in all its glory, it automatically leads to a dumb decision.

"I'm such a great human I don't even want to talk to mean humans."

"-Well I'm tall, rich, handsome and have a car and I believe that you can't properly take care of people if you don't take care of you first."

"-OMG exactly what I meant!."

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VetteVet83 5y ago

She’s pretty good looking for her age. Despite that, any man 50 and under that is worth a shit, can get a younger woman than her That would be a better prospect for childbearing. Sorry she married a guy who was impotent, Or just never wanted kids from her but that does not create a sense of urgency for men and her dating age range. Happy hunting sweet pea. If you want a sport fuck, hit me up.

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11bNg 5y ago

Ugh wrinkles and dead eyes no thx my seed is to precious for her

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Stateist555 5y ago

finally an upload with some decent dating info

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UltimaterializerX 5y ago
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Four-Triangles 5y ago

I don’t think this one qualifies. She isn’t looking for anything unreasonable and she’s not destroyed beyond her age and isn’t looking for a man half her age. I say she gets a pass. I’m not interested but she’s not what this is about.

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JamaicanSoup 5y ago

Ive seen way worse than this

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rhe1 5y ago

perhaps I wasn't clear. My mistake. Women CAN give birth at age 18. I wouldn't recommend it.

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chadtwashington 5y ago

Dump your loads before she goes

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Solomon_Knight 5y ago

It says Christian but the liberal tag explains the divorce and the lack of kids. Either your a Christian or a Feminist. You can't be both

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Ranidaphobia 5y ago

If she wants to be a single mom HMU

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Ishabaka 5y ago

I don't get all the Trump-hating women who feel the need to put it on a dating site - do they really think eliminating 50% of the male population is an effective strategy?

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DicamVeritatem 5y ago

Those eyes shout cray cray.

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KilluminatiGotti2 5y ago

She hit levels of wall that aren’t even supposed to be physically possible..

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kickulus 5y ago

crazy eyes

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5y ago

Masters degrees

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Vishapstein 5y ago

She's saying if you don't have at least a Master's Degree or MBA then she won't date you.

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blondeaudrey 5y ago

She has a graduate degree herself. Sure, maybe she should widen her net, but it's not completely unreasonable to want to marry someone intellectually fulfilling.

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Krypson 5y ago

Honestly not that bad. Please have a car? Like thats fine. I'm surprised this one is getting so much hate. She's not a hambeast, I think shes okay to want someone over 5'10''.

I usually agree with this sub, but this one tells me you guys just fucking hate women and that none of your opinions matter. Sometimes shit just doesn't work out for people and relationships.

I'm good friends with a girl, Shes very pretty and has been single since highschool, shes 32 now and just has terrible luck finding anyone, Shes also never had sex! Believe me, they exist. Shes perfectly normal and fine, just not good at dating. This woman got married once, and assuming that she was riding the cock train before then is such an ignorant thing.

You guys would only be so lucky to have a woman who goes to the gym every day in her 40's

Maybe shes a little old to start having kids but who are you guys to deny her that?

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onmyrocker 5y ago

So she's *less* unreasonable than some of the really insane examples posted here. I'll agree that some of the guys here got a little carried away in the pile on and aren't being 100% fair, but that doesn't mean that her demands are reasonable. She's just not as bad as some of the others.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

She is attractive.

What the point is, the man she is describing, in most of our opinions is MORE attractive than she is.

It’s not that she’s “wrong” for wanting any of this.

It’s that it is exceedingly unlikely that her bargaining position is good enough to get what she desires

Now this is all opinion....

However, if she were asking for something reasonable/easy/accessible , would she be on a dating app for an extended period of time?

No, she would be able to find a realistic, appropriate man relatively quickly.

With all due respect, if your 32 year old friend can’t find a nice guy in 16 years of dating, she’s being too selective for what she has to offer — by definition.

Reasonable offers in a free market lead to relatively quick sales (Houses, cars, land, etc.)

If a house had been in the market for YEARS, the owner is asking too much.

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Krypson 5y ago

I see your points, I mean, I just know if I was a 50 year old dude trying to find something, anything, her profile seems far less intrusive and demanding than most women. And she has no kids, that's a HUGE bonus. At the very least, Take her on a date and see what shes REALLY about.

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butt_uglee 5y ago

Totally agree

If I were 50 or 55.

I’m 42.

The other problem — 2nd marriages have a 60% failure rate.

You can’t pre-nuptial agreement child support.

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