What's up guys, thought I'd introduce myself and offer my input to anyone who would like to know what it's like working with strippers. Feel free to ask me anything you're curious about with the strip club scene.
Some back story for anyone interested. I'd been in a two year relationship with a cutie I met at a department store. The first year was gravy, but then she started to nag more and towards the end of the 2nd year it was evident she was psychotic/controlling/manipulative etc.
I'd already started working at a few strip clubs as a DJ (I'm a free lance DJ, which basically means jack shit in 2017) and loved not being tied down so I dumped this bitch and kept it moving.
I use to think that not all women were the same. That their environment played a big part in the person they become. But deep down inside, they are all the same. Working with strippers shows this. You can be a ghetto ass stripper with three baby daddies or an Ivy league graduate working for some firm. The only difference is the choices you were given in life, the hand you were dealt.
Strippers go from zero to a hundred quicker, but a non stripper will eventually show her cards in a more cunning and devious way. Both sides of the spectrum are very dangerous to a blue pill idiot who has no clue what's happening.
I've messed with young and dumb strippers and milf veteran type strippers who are in this for life. Non strippers, I messed with nurses, doctors, lawyers, college students, women who've hit the wall and were looking for a younger guy like me (at the time) to settle down with. Most of these women had degrees (even the strippers). Old, young, black, white, Latina... They were all the same in terms of their hypergamous nature. And they all tried to use sex as a bargaining chip (which was usually around the same time peaced out)
I'd been in the pua world since college but left that after seeing how it was turning into dudes trying to sell boot camps to Cucks and Simps (I never spent a dime on that bullshit).
I had no idea what being red pilled even meant until a friend asked me about it when I told him I was taking a break from women. Needles to say my mind was blown.
This changes everything. From who my friends are, to planning on getting out of the DJ business all together. I realize that most of the decisions I've made in life always centered around women, how attract them, be around them...and even though hindsight is 20/20, this path I took was nothing short of destructive.
I've been smart enough to never get em pregnant or marry any of them, but in trying to game and understand their nature, I've wasted years that could have been put towards something much more fulfilling than pussy.
At this point I'm heading towards becoming a mgtow monk. I've seen every angle to women, from ratchet to ivy league, and none of it makes any sense. Women do not make sense. Trying to think you have them figured out will only end in pain and misery.
theaspiringasshole 6y ago
So, do they all have daddy issues then?
tolerantman 6y ago
Great post, I think people here tend to overvalue game, its more about who you are than what you did while talking to her. A 6'5 famous actor with a ripped body will always have greater chances than other men, no matter how good their 'game' is.
I think it have been showed many times that PUAs are often scammers, I know there are a few exceptions, very few, but most of them, including the famous ones, are selling a lie, and its an expensive one.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yep, most "puas" who achieve some sort of long term success look pretty good already. The pua game works really well for guys who look physically good but habw that inner anxiety. The shy guy, but he's hot etc. Pua gurus love talking up those types of students because it's easy as fuck to get them results. It's the mouse looking scrawny guy who's TFL is how these pua work shops were making a killing. Repeat customers who will constantly keep throwing mkkjey at seminars
fullspeedornothing- 6y ago
Women feel, because they need to survive.
Men are physically way, way more dominant. A woman knows intuitively she needs a strong man to be safe. If you're a weak-willed, push-over pussy, then you're ending up with no woman or a low-quality woman (less attractive).
Also women need to take care of children. In order to do so effectively, they must sort of be like children in a certain sense. Especially little children until they are 7 to 9 years old.
I don't understand any other man who wants to "get" women. When I'm around a woman, I want to fuck her. It's a feeling, it's horniness. There is literally no reason on earth that exists why you want to be with a women aside from sex. I just. Don't. Get. Some other men.
And that's beautiful. It's raw, pure, it's attraction. I just love women, and they make me "feel" as well. Sex is a feeling as well, it feels good. So anyone who thinks of themselves as 'better' when saying that "women only care about feels", well so do you, you just don't understand that the desire that you feel around a woman is also a feeling. It's just a more grounded feeling, one of purpose and a goal. To devour her. The male energy is more present. The female is always dancing, until she gets dominated, until she gets pounded. She wants to be dominated and ravished.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yeah, the cock carousel is what we're seeing today. When they want to ride it until their pussy lips touch the ground, and then they want to cry "where are all the good men?"
Why would I want to settle down with a stripper who's been through miles of cock? All women are hoes, you just have to catch em on the right day.
BluepillProfessor 6y ago
Along with Shit Tests, reflexive female in-group preference, and an almost total lack of empathy for men THIS is what we mean by "AWALT."
Cantahente 6y ago
Yep, ans they'll keep trying repackage it as if it's a new era or new technique. Women are some of the most unoriginal hacks on some monkey see monkey do bullshit. They need guidance in order to flourish
Spurius85 6y ago
A bit off topic, but I was curious what your thoughts were on the Managers and General Managers that ran the club you worked at?
Were they red-pilled? Was there high turnover? Were they actually good at their jobs? If not why not?
I know it is a lot of questions, but I am actually considering breaking into the strip club/night club industry, hopefully as an assistant manager of some kind. I am currently in the health care business (Management). The women I deal with, my God, these girls are dealing with people's lives (CNAs, Nurses, PAs) and they are the most entitled, unreliable, dishonest people on the face of this earth. You literally have to babysit them so that they do not kill one of your clients out of sheer neglect and incompetency. These same people will turn around and pretend to be God's gift to the medical industry. At least in a club there are no lives at stake and the girls are half naked. It honestly sounds like a less stressful environment.
Cantahente 6y ago
Wow, I know that there are shit tons of women in the health industry but wow. How are they getting away with this shit? Can't they be reported or isn't there some sort of authority that conducts audits on these people?.
In terms of management at the strip club, yes, it's very masculine. Men are in full charge in terms of ownership and financial decisions. The problem lies with them hiring women (nepotism) who are always kissing their ass.
Yes, at night all the managers are men, and rightfully so. I've seen female managers before and they are slow to react. One club I worked at years ago, one of the owners had his sisters working there. They would constantly buddy buddy with some of the girls and then when ever these girls did some dumb shit which would have led to then being kicked out it was always let slide. These women never added any value and were basically working to be the owners eyes and ears (most of which was them never taking any responsibility for their fuck ups and blaming it on anyone else they could... It was a dangerous environment... Any club that hires their family is a bad sign they don't know what they're doing and sre trying to cut corners).
Anytime a woman is in a management position it's never because she earned it. Cronyism/nepotism is huge in this industry.
In terms of getting into the business and working as an assistant manager, most of these positions are rarely advertised. The pay isnt amazing (but most of it is cash), and there's barely benefits unless you're an amazing negotiator. But most clubs only hire guys they know would add value... Like you know more girls or hot bartenders that have a good clientele of their own.
They'll always prefer someone with experience, but you could also just go by the club you're looking to work at and start befriending the managers and eventually see if they're hiring any assistant managers. Some clubs would probably take you up on training you. The hours arent normal though. And there is alot of down time depending on what time it is. You stand to make way more money at night, but you'll be getting home at 6am and if you're still looking to work a day job get used to sleeping for a couple hours tops.
Most of the owners and general managers are old guys with lots of money from other businesses. They only care about making money and constantly have people trying to sue them.
It's technically the service industry. Looks are everything, how you present yourself to the customers. The owners only care to talk with anyone who's going to be making them money, high rollers etc. If a club starts to struggle the first adjustment that's made is usually with management. The newest Manager we have at a club here I'm at came from another club that closed down. The community is very tight knit so I'm sure the guy already knew one of the owners here and they brought him on. The question is how and what he negotiated with them in terms of salary. I'm sure he guaranteed that he'd bring their numbers up. He brings in guest bartenders weekly (having super hot bartenders is very important in this business) and has also gotten girls from his old club to work at this one. A good management team is key and this club does a pretty good job at running things. But when you're dealing with strippers there's always going to be problems (there's always a stripper who will be fighting with management, customers, and especially other girls... Having this many together and they start hen pecking each other... Girls here only work in groups. A girl working alone with out some friends to back her up won't last long at night...girls are always fighting over customers... They'll even fight with the bartenders over customer money.... Women view anything as competition, and I'm not just talking about the service industry business....they'll act like this in any profession.
My advice is, don't get into this business to try and fuck these girls. I get offers daily and trust me, the ones you really want to fuck are never going to offer because they already have a line of cuck men, drug dealers, wanna be thugs, in their instagram and snap chat DM's. Women have a menu of men to choose from when they're at their peak sexual market value (16-22). They don't even see you unless you're balling. I get hit on by the single mothers, the 23 and up group. Fake tits, tummy tucks, butt injections etc. Etc...and that's me making zero effort to talk to them.
But yeah man, befriend the management, get to know them, and you never know if there's a club with a group of guys managing that you will get along really well with.
Spurius85 6y ago
Wow, I appreciate the response. Thank you very much.
In response to your surprise about the health industry. It is complex. Yes, there is oversight of both the entity itself (hospitals, agencies, etc.) and the individual CNA, nurse, etc. It is typically the state, sometimes the city. There is also Federal regulation to an extent for those entities that do medicare/medicaid or veteran's insurance. It varies from state to state, but entities that get a state license are required to adhere to a set of regulations that are supposed to ensure that the entity, and its staff, maintain a level of competency. The certified employees can also have their licenses revoked and be barred from working in the industry. Keep in mind though that this is usually only for very provable criminal actions. Neglect, incompetence, abuse these things are really hard to prove.
The problem is that the regulatory systems are completely overloaded. There are hundreds of entities to oversee and dozens more will pop up every month. It's easy to become licensed and the state enjoys the income from the licenses, keep that in mind as well. Violations of the regulations can go unnoticed for years before an entity is shut down. Also, just because a person or entity is found in violation of the state regulations does not always mean that they are barred/shut down. Sometimes they are simply fined.
In fact, the only real defense against bad CNAs and Nurses is Management willing to maintain the standard and fire them, then spread the word to other like minded entities. The industry is so badly understaffed that the educational requirements for CNAs and Nursing are being shortened, or fast paced, with corners cut. So we get people in the industry that are under-trained, but believe that they are hot shit because they got their certification or degree. Agencies and hospitals have to choose whether pick up the training slack, which drives costs up, or not. Most choose not to. The staffing shortage also drives costs up as agencies compete for these under-trained individuals inflating their actual (and perceived) worth.
Now lets put it in red pill parable of sorts. We have an industry dominated by women, most of whom are under-trained and overpaid. With state oversight that only punishes the worst of offenders, when they get to them. Hospitals/agencies who may or may not perform further and/or corrective training, and woe to you if you try to imply that these girls' standards are not up to par. Combine this with different hospitals/agencies actually competing for these women due to being seriously understaffed. You tell me what could go wrong?
My apologies for the length of the post. One thing I will suggest is to make sure to save a whole lot of money for when you get older. This is the kind of industry that only the wealthy can really afford quality, unless something changes in the next decade or so.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yeah, I'm not going to ever rely on the medical system to help me out. If I die of a shock accident then so be it.
But you're seeing it then in your field. Every profession women have infiltrated and tried to dominate has simply gone to shit. Women flock to government jobs because there are no repercussions for poor performance. In the private sector you do a horrible job and your company will suffer for it, go out of business etc. There are no safety nets.
Women are toxic to any work environment. Morale suffers and you can barely get any work done.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
this is why, historically speaking, women were oppressed and held down because the elders knew how destructive it is to let women have rights, to vote, to make decisions, etc.
we all know that very few, if any women are capable of making good decisions.
Cantahente 6y ago
Just look at every story in the bible. One of the main reasons Feminists are pushing for atheism has nothing to do with their needing to have proof of anything in the bible. They simply don't like that that the bible instructs you to keep your bitch in check at all times. The bible doesn't stutter one bit about that.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
same im the talmud and quoran as well. womens rights is barbarism
Cantahente 6y ago
Every society that ends up giving women rights, ends up bankrupt, in utter poverty.
TheSelfGoverned 6y ago
They do make sense. Hypergamy. AWALT. They don't even see you as human, because you aren't a potential Chad.
Frame their behavior in this way, and it makes perfect sense.
Cantahente 6y ago
My main goal is to appear invisible to them. Their attention is something I couldn't care less for. I still get hit on every day, even in the street, but women will never hit on guys like guys do to them. Most women have no idea how to game guys, because most of them (if they're actually hot) habe never had to work on getting a guys attention.
It literally infuriates them if they can tell you don't notice them.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
This is truth. Was a great post about a guy in a library that was getting stared at and he rebutted her attention. She pressure flipped it and said he was harassing her. Hilarious.
Cantahente 6y ago
Everything is harassment now. Where we fucked up was allowing them to make these types of accusations with zero proof. The number of false allegations keeps rising, because they know there are zero repercussions for making false claims... "whoops, my bad judge, I made a mistake..." Meanwhile dudes went to jail, had their character dragged through the mud, and they were completely innocent. Guys literally have to walk around with a tape recorder on when ever they come into a verbal altercation with a female. There are cameras everywhere in the strip club, and girls will still lie.
anrii188 6y ago
I'm interested, i would like to ask the OP : what is in the red pill that provoked in you the mindshift? I'm curious because you seem to go for the MGTOW which is some sort of extreme TRP?
Cantahente 6y ago
Good question. During the my PUA years I was fascinated, even obsessed with understanding female nature. That in a way was being Red Pilled in a sense that I knew the tips and tricks to be able to get a woman's attention and keep her interest. Now, it's like the back of my hand, but I do remember how helpless I felt being that guy who was the fly on the wall back then.
Getting them and bedding them became a non issue. The reason why PUA's and guys like David D'Angelo say that they don't teach men how to have successful relationships is for a very good reason. Because most women (the odds are horrible fellas) are fucking insane, batshit crazy, cunts.
I also found that the type of women this stuff really worked on were all the same type. Narcissistic, and bi-polar even (there were cool chicks, but the odds were like 100 to one...it was literally a numbers game). Sure, having sex with woman can be mastered but it wasn't healthy for me. The drain; the stress most of them caused. Women in general are a pain in the ass (Just ask any guy who's married....suckers lol). I wasn't even married and after two months of dating a chick it would feel like we went through all the phases (honeymoon, 7 year itch etc.)
Out of all those one night stands and flings, I was only in a hand full of serious relationships and yes, in each one I was leading the whole way. Even with that they would always test. I thought back then that it was always my fault that they'd act out of line. Later I found out about hypergamy a woman's inability to love unconditionally like men can love (and dogs). I would eventually get exhausted from all their nagging and other drama, and just end it though.
Btw, I also made sure these girls were with me for ME. I literally gamed off of them with jeans and a t-shirt. Never flashy. I didn't have money back then anyway like I do today, but it's true, money helps but you can get em without it just as easy. You just have to let them know that you're not the "provider", you're the "lover." Once they know that they won't treat you like a cuck simp. But you had to let them know from the start or else it wouldn't matter later on. They'd still cuck you.
I was always content being by myself but kept thinking that I needed have a woman by my side because of societal pressure (it's all bulllshit btw...the only person who can make you happy is YOU). Never really drank or did drugs and used to exercise a lot (which actually helps with stress, I didn't know at the time).
A lot of my high school buddies and even PUA friends started getting divorced. Divorce to a man is much different than how divorce is too a woman. These guys were getting financially ruined. So stressed out that they didn't care if she got everything. After you see this sort of thing happen to 10 of your friends in a row, you start to ask questions.
After my last relationship which lasted almost 3 years with this nurse I decided I was done with women for a while. I was just taking break like I usually do. I was djing one random night and a guy who usually comes by to hang asked me if I was dating anyone. I told him I was taking a break from women. He then asked if I was a MGTOW. I had no idea what he was talking about and then explained it to me. The next day I looked it up on Youtube and Reddit. Started reading about it....and my mind was blown. I'd been doing this already, but I had no idea there was an actual word for it lol. Or even a movement where men were getting together to talk about it online.
Most of it was guys that were fucked over by the court system, divorced, lost everything etc. Then there were guys like me who were just going from batshit crazy bitch to batshit crazy bitch (they never started being batshit crazy, but eventually the crazy would show its ugly).
I don't really get why people are trying to use the Red Pill to learn how to game women. Just use the PUA material. It will get you results and goes into female nature pretty good.
TRP and Mgtow also go into female nature extensively (Read Esther Villars The Manipulated Man to get an idea of what I'm talking about, it was written in the fucking 1980's), but more so to warn men of what they're getting into. PUA shit would explain female nature, but i was always in a way to get you into their pants. Not how to guard your sanity. With PUA shit you learn about female nature so that they'll let you fuck them (they'll even be begging for it), and with MGTOW/RP (at least the Red Pill that I read) explains to you why shit like hypergamy exists. I'm sure PUA explained hypergamy, but it probably reframed it in a way that let guys know it would be much easier to fuck them. Shit like that. That term "it's always on" is literally the PUA mindset, and honestly it only only leads to path of misery.
MGTOW explains Gynocentrism and Hypergamy very well. PUA's don't care about that. They only care about pussy and getting more of it. Being red pilled to me was realizing that I was doing everything for Pussy. Worshiping pussy. That's where women want you all. To see them as sex symbol goddesses who deserve to be pampered. All men are dogs and women are sugar and spice and everything nice. But it's bullshit. Men are actually very loyal and only want a bitch who's going to support them and love them to death (like a dog does, unconditionally)....so we were lied to. Because a woman's hypergamous nature will not allow her to love unconditionally. And that lie is still being pedaled to men all over the world.
Entropy-7 6y ago
I had a couple of friends who frequented "The Happy Place" in London, Ontario. I can't remember the actual name of the place. The thing is, they spent a lot of time there, knew all the girls but were totally in the friend zone.
In my last year of law school I got caught short and had to make some cash so I worked in a porn shop. The local hookers would change into their "working clothes" in our washroom and leave their street clothes behind the desk until their "shift" finished.
They were nice girls but I never made a move because 1) it was sort of a professional faux pas and 2) they were hookers!
Cantahente 6y ago
Good on you sir. Nothing wrong with hookers. They're at least honest and up front about the services they provide. You negotiate up front and that's the price. If they don't deliver than they know they won't be in business for long.
You need realize who were the people that wanted Prostitution to be illegal (ding ding ding, women). Feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. They don't want to be constrained to religious rule but also want to fuck it up for hookers who are being honest about their trade.
And now that sex robot brothels are starting to pop up they're trying to stop that shit too in parts where prostitution is legal lol. They literally get sick at the though of men actually being happy without them. Deal with it you narcissistic cunts. it's been a long time coming.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Oh I literally love the disgust that all women exhibit over sex dolls/robots. It's hilarious. They see the writing on the wall. Once men can procreate without actual human females, I see a patriarchy coming like nobody ever expected. Hmmm. I also sense a novel. lol.
This could be a new thread / discussion all on it's own.
Entropy-7 6y ago
We could have a whole philosophical discussion about it but it seems there is a tipping point where AI/sex-dolls were "perfected" and non-psychopaths just couldn't carry out their darkest fantasies because the bot was "too real".
As for the psychopaths, isn't the real fun in doing horrible things to other humans rather than toasters?
For what it's worth, Asa Akira did a scene where she played a sex doll the engineer/scientist/designer (where do they get all these fugly guys from) takes her for a test spin.
Entropy-7 6y ago
Nothing wrong with hookers but just not my thing.
But seriously, these were really nice girls.
We had a stag for a buddy and I had the opportunity to chit chat with the stripper we got. She was doing her fucking MD and peeled to fund that!
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
That's the exception to the rule, maybe 5-10% actually have an end game and are looking to leverage the $ into something bigger and better than the sex trade.
I wonder how the board or her future patients would feel about that. Another interesting discussion.
Entropy-7 6y ago
You are probably right that she was an exception to the rule.
I am a former lawyer and the one thing we are good at is keeping secrets. Most cetainly, I am not going to tell anyone that she was peeling. I don't think others will be so curious as to ruin her career.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yep. A lot of these bitches are on that smart hustle. But for every 20 dumb strippers and hookers, you'll get one or two cool ones. One's that you really hope make something successful out of themselves. It's def possible.
On the streets all you have is your word. Bitches who hide behind the welfare state and the law to lie and get dudes wrongfully convicted won't survive on their own. Which is why they need feminsim and big daddy government. A lot of these strippers are republican as fuck in terms of knowing that they cannot rely anyone else but themselves.
We're talking about the exception to the rule here though.
Most of them scheme using the government and fucking over any and all males they come across. Don't think for a second that they won't try and play the victim if given the opportunity.
Also understand that most cops are white knight cucks who will arrest the man just because he's a man and the girl is crying. All women have to do is cry and all of a sudden it's us having to prove our innocence. No thanks.
Entropy-7 6y ago
You have some good points here.
The "physician to be" was exceptional. Most of the girls don't really have options.
TRP has a bad rep for hating women and such. I don't hate women, I love them. But unless I win the lottery, I can only save 1.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Guy I know who is a huge player, just settled down with a former hooker. We were out and somehow the discussion about prostitution came up. I told her "guys have no problems with whores, but they don't want to be with one". I was corrected by two people at the table. Said "Ok. 'most' guys". Then she went off on the typical prostitute drivel that it's an important job because it's been around forever, that they are providing therapy/counselling to guys, etc. I laughed and said "No really, don't give me the self justification, it's ok. I don't care what you do, but most guys don't want to be with a girl that turning tricks for a job." The hamster never rests. And my buddy is literally captain save a ho; he's slipping into his mid 30's and looking to settle down. I always wondered why this girl was so stand offish, not the typical hugs and teasing, etc. It's because she sees men as clients! No hate. Just facts. And yes. Can only save one. At a time. And even then... they're really just getting their hooks into you as a provider. The 'saving' is temporary because if they could go back to hooking as a viable option without judgement (or diminishing returns as they age), they would.
Entropy-7 6y ago
The thing about guys is that they do not want a want a girl who is a whore; they want a girl who is THEIR WHORE.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Truth! It's all about genetic imperative. Instinctually you don't want your girl taking other guys because in your core, it means you might get cucked and have to raise someone elses spawn.
Entropy-7 6y ago
I think there is some animal imperitive at play.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Sounds like the same thing; interestingly, have had this discussion with a guy I know that is fully poly, dates several women. When asked if he is ok with his girl getting railed by other guys dick, his didn't skip a beat and blurted out "No". But can't help his training. Blue mohawk supports.
Cantahente 6y ago
You have to ask yourself is it worth the risk. Or you can just take a survey. Look at all the other Millions of men who've gone through a divorce. I'm a humble guy and stopped thinking a long time ago that I was smarter than all the other millions of men who got married and then divorced. But still, tons of guys out there have this "Oh, that won't happen to me, I know better..." mentality. That sort of Hubris will ensure you're downfall.
If a woman truly loves you (which she can't, but one in a million probably could...those odds are insane though), she won't care about marriage or whether or not she can divorce you 10 years later and get all your money. I'll never let the government get involved with how/where/when/why I put my dick in anything.
Entropy-7 6y ago
The divorce rate hovers around 50% so the good news is that half of you silly fuckers will die with your wedding vows intact. I don't know about Europe but in Asia the rates are a lot lower.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
50% is only in the first 5 years. Further out and it's much higher. Especially if the girl has has more than 6 partners.
Entropy-7 6y ago
Hstory tends to repeat itself so people with a history will carry on.
Cantahente 6y ago
Where did you get 50%from? ????????????????????
It's actually more like over 75%. You're obviously hoping someone still marries you. Good luck competing with all the sex robots flooding the sexual market within r next 10 years.
Entropy-7 6y ago
It's 43% in terms of divorce to marriage ratios. Black Dragon did an analysis and came up with a much higher figure.
I don't need a sex robot. . I have an Asian chick, LMFAO
Divorce rates are falling but that is because marriage rates are falling as well. Couples just shack up and then break it off after a few years.
Cite
Cantahente 6y ago
Lolol.... https://youtu.be/YOSj3s8GCK0
Cantahente 6y ago
One more. https://youtu.be/8X7opWEfcOE
Edit: 96.4 of all first marriages FAIL before they reach their 10 year anniversary... But nice try trying to manipulate the numbers ????????????????????
Cantahente 6y ago
How they got the 50% number..... is that they're adding ALL marriages, not factoring those people who are on their second or third marriage.
The real numbers you would want to see are the number of people who got married within a 10 year span and seeing how many of those people stayed married or got divorced x amount of times.
The state loves marriage. The government loves marriage because it breeds divorce.
If you get married to your Asian unicorn of a woman, you have a 1 in 15 chance that your marriage will last 10 years. One in fifteen. Gotta love those shitty odds.... Hey fuck face.... Good luck getting bent over and fucked in the ass by the family court of you do choose to go down this route... ????????????????????
yotheman 6y ago
I agree in lot of things with Cantahente, sounds very practical and I don’t like theorists. I on 40+, never been married and I have no plans to be in the future. In my 30’s I was involved a bit in the PUA world sarging in Piazza Navona in Italy at that time, I did it only for pleasure and because it was a pussy supermarket close at hand so I have known women from lots of countries. I’m a very active person, I work on sales (I have my own company) and I have some hobbies and do some sports in a way that I’m busy almost all day.
Now I live in Mexico and what I see on the street from the point of view of women is not good (not only México, LATAM in general), for the people that says that marriage is good in 60% of cases I will tell that people that on the field, talking with any kind of customers, I’m lucky if I find 1 happy married man over 20 I ask how are their marriage (I put the number 20 as a guide meaning "a lot"). I don’t believe all people is doing something wrong here.
I remember pretty well when more than 10 years ago, someone asked to Franco Califano (a known italian playboy, now dead) what was his opinion about marriage and he was not in favor of marriage, because he said pretty clear that women try hard to take control in the couple and soon or later you will lose your freedom, if you lose your freedom you are not a man anymore and I’m pretty agree on that thinking, here you see lot of people talking about “frame”, be a “man” to be married, and lot of stuff that from my experience is bullshit. How long do you think you will maintain frame?... I don’t need to be married to demonstrate anyone that I’m a man, if being in a couple is a hard work to do (social relations are difficult in any context), I have lot of work to do in my everyday work and when I arrive to my home I want peace, with the customers I know they never have peace in their house because women are complex, manipulative and stressful creatures, even worse living in Mexico where women are focused in getting the money from man, they don’t care if you are nice, ugly, fat, thin, etc, they want money but not doing the job for making it (seems their goal is to become a parasite), if they find a man that pays their lifestyle is a “gentleman”, it’s a kind of prostitution accepted by society where the exchange in some cases is not money but goods and they plan to get kids like an insurance to get a monthly payment, same situation for most of the latin American women, WTF?...
Do you think I will marry a bitch to give half of my company that took me too much effort to build?... If I want pussy I will travel to Cuba paying only my expenses ;) I have lot of hobbies and having a permanent women in my life means to stop doing some of them because the most important thing is time and I don’t have it, besides that how many women do you know that have at least one hobby?... here in Mexico most of the women are very boring and selfish, their life consist in having an orbiter that will pay everything they like and that’s it, how long can you be with a person like that?... 1 or 2 months?... and be very careful if you have money, because women to complete their goal, are capable to adapt to the situation (even the most disgusting ones) and doing stuff that most men does not have the stomach to do.
I see the women behavior on the street everyday, forget about the frame BS, I’m practical and I see examples of lot of people, do you still think marry is a matter of frame or to be a “real man”? Looking at all the examples in the street I don’t think so, is a matter of how much peace you want in your life, of course there are men that don’t have a hobby and their life is work and to arrive to their home to stay with the kids and talk with her wife, from my point of view that is a boring life I don’t want, but everyone is different.
Cantahente 6y ago
Amen to you sir. I'm very confused as well at the posts I see on here as well of guys mentioning how to control the frame in a relationship. I've been there. No matter how alpha you are in the relationship women will test you until you're dead. Their Hypergamy requires it.
I love Rollo Tomassi's book the rational male; it has a lot of awesome info on it. But I'm past that. Why have to always be on guard having to constantly re-game your wife so that she'll always be into you. Fuck that. I learned the hard way that anything that is constantly trying to fuck you over should never be a part of your life in the first place. Men just think that this is something they have to put up with in order to get pussy. Nope.
Western women are pretty bad, but it's spread all over the world now. Latin America has some of the most narcissistic cunts on the planet. Colombia should change it's name to plastic surgery. To all women anything they do with a man must have some sort of monetary return. We are nothing but a utility to them. From ages 16 - 22 they'll gladly jump on the cock carousel and gobble dick up like it's their favorite past time....but as they age their love for dick will diminish, and then they'll start saying shit like "Sex is dirty...." lolol.
I'll never get married. Ever. So long as women still have the ability to vote this will only continue to get worse. Bring on the robot companion revolution. Ladies, you priced yourselves out of the Sexual Market. You will never be able to compete with a robot that never gets tired, and always stays tighter than a can of sardines.
yotheman 6y ago
Totally agree with you and when I read what you wrote about colombians and plastic surgery I laughed, hahah, fake ass and tits everywhere in that country, I don't believe they will recognize their own children... I tell same stuff to men I know about robots in the future and free of STD's ;)... sad true but in most of the cases we are a utility return from them with insurance included in the case you have kids.
Cantahente 6y ago
Women are also horrible judges of character. Getting knocked up by dead beat fuck boy Chads seems to be the only thing most of them are geniuses at.
If you were raised by a single mother, I'm sorry to hear that. It basically means you were either abused by your mother or her shitty boyfriends in which you had no say in any matters having to do with what's best for you growing up. I'm sorry to anyone who had to live with a batshit crazy single mother that was basically using you and your other siblings as a money machine.
I have quite a few friends who told me that once they came of age where their mother was no longer able to receive child support or welfare benefits (for the number of kids you have) they were promptly kicked out of the house or constantly berated to get a job (which made them move out anyway).
HandsomeCub 6y ago
This is the kind of fodder feminists use to demonize redpill. I completely understand what you are saying, but they wont. Let me help rephrase: as long as women dont empathize with the male position and know whats its like to be a provider for a grown adult, which none of them seem to, they will continue to vote in unfair laws.
Cantahente 6y ago
They never had go on the front lines and fight. They get to avoid the draft. They don't pay net taxes. The welfare state is what they run to along with social security when they decided they're not happy anymore in their current marriage. The only Daddy they look up to is big daddy government....
And yet, some people are still confused about how/why it's come to this. Red pill. Mgtow. Over 99 percent of the strippers Ive worked with were on some kind of section 8/welfare benefits. They also all had an Obama phone, as well as an iPhone, and if they black they easily spent over 500.00 a week on just their hair weave.
You can say welfare helps those in need all you want... But imo there are far more people taking advantage of the system that seems to be used by women more than anyone else.
So long as women have the right to vote, they'll just keep extending the benefits that appeal to them.
We can all thank social security and Medicare for eventually bringing this country to its knees (the main participants of these services are... You guessed it... Women).
nopiller 6y ago
your MGTOW is showing. On another note, what do you think of bros companion for your whole life?
yotheman 6y ago
Bros companion for life?... soon or later one in the couple will die and one will be alone again, there is not companion for life, even the sons will make their own life, at least you are the one to die first, you will end alone. I'm not closed to know a women, but it should be a person, not a pussy and this is the hard part of the story.
Cantahente 6y ago
What gave it away? My not trying to talk up how awesome it is to fuck strippers on a daily basis and how it's all about maintaining that "frame" LOLOL?
Bros companion? Are you from another country? Not familiar with that term. Are you referring to male best friends for life? I have tons of friends I grew up with that I keep in touch with. The only guys I've fell out of touch with all got married (or divorced by now, who knows). In my experience women like to make it real difficult for their husbands/boyfriends to stay in touch with their best friends. Don't believe me, just think of how fast you ditched all your female friends once you got into a serious relationship. That wasn't a fluke. Meanwhile most women continue to have tons of male friends and any time someone brings it up it's a them being 'insecure.' Gotta love the double standard.
nopiller 6y ago
You definitely should go all the way bro. Go for gay relationship since woman is so evil.
Cantahente 6y ago
Why do you keep trying to act like getting into any sort of relationship is a good thing? Go your own way and anyone who wants to come along is welcome, but you don't get any special privileges. You're on your own. Does slapping you across the face with my fat dick and telling you to go fuck yourself, count as being gay? If so, then sure, call me gay all you want lol.
red_rover_red_rover 6y ago
I think the best thing is to realize that you are here to serve a purpose in life, and if you're lucky you'll find a girl (or two) who's relatively sane enough to raise your children to become successful adults.
Complicating it more than that will give you headaches.
Cantahente 6y ago
You mean, if a girl is lucky enough to understand her place in this world, then maybe she'll be able to keep it together enough to find a good man who will help her lead a good life. Not this bullshit lie of a life Feminism has been shoving down women's throats. But she has to let him LEAD.
The only headache is men thinking that the woman they marry was actually doing it to be with them till death do they part. But keep ditching good men for fuckboys and wannabe thugs. How's that working out for you ladies lately? Running straight to welfare, and being more depressed than ever in a career you secretly hate....but feminism told you this path would make you happy...lololol...nope
vicious_armbar 6y ago
What percentage of strippers hook on the side? How much do they usually charge? Do the blow guys in the "champagne room" if they pay them enough? I don't go to strip clubs and I've always wondered about this.
Cantahente 6y ago
The clubs I'm at are pretty good about not letting any sex or blow jobs go down in the club. You can get shut down easily for allowing that. Word will spread very fast too. Strippers are all chicken heads and looove to talk. Women in general are gossip girls. Theres no difference between strippers and regular chicks. It's just sped up way faster in a strip club environment. What takes 6 months with a regular chick to form a bond will take 1 hour in a strip club with a stripper. Things are sped up at a faster rate. Women have a better sense of social dynamics than men do and can run circles around guys who don't know how to socialize.
And regardless of whether or not they strip... All women have dicks on the side. Remember, men have actual hobbies that have nothing to do with pussy. Notice any hobby a woman has ONLY has to with men or getting a man. We're their hobby. Men don't need women to survive (example: monasteries). Women need men to survive. It's not even a debate.
The dancers are pretty slick about how they deal with all the John's outside of the club. Some will say shit like "my regular took me out to eat last night, gave me 600.00 and paid off my phone bill..."
Most of them even say that they aren't even giving these guys sex. I usually don't even want to hear what they're saying, but maybe I'll get them to admit that they gibe the guy a hand job or blow him. I doubt these guys aren't getting to fuck with all the money they're giving them. Yes bro, these bitches all lie and from what I can see they all tell me that they aren't fucking for money because they still see me as a guy who they may want to fuck or get something out of one day. I could care less and wish they'd just be honest.
I'm for legalizing prostitution. It would be safer for one and you wouldn't have to guess at who has STD's. I don't trust any bitch anymore, the lies I've seen these girls get awah with. You're getting tested and showing me the results before we do anything. I've been lucky to not have any STD's and realize how dumb these chicks are in terms of being selective about whay they let up in side their cunts.
Even girl has a different price but if you get to know these girls on a cool level the Dominican bitches will suck you off for 20.00 (that's only if you've known for a while though). It's probably 60.00 if you're complete stranger but look like you have money and aren't ugly (athletic, good looking). You also need to catch them at the right. Moment, like when they're ovulating. All that plays a key in how you can negotiate price.
You can probably negotiate in the club but most of the time this is all done through dm's on Instagram and snap chat. Women will have mad dudes on their dm's negotiating this type of bullshit. Depends on how much of a whore she is and how much money you're willing to spend. The price is def cheaper if they're ovulating lol
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Can confirm, most women will take money for sex, just depends on how they justify it in their heads. Strippers are already in the 'sex worker' industry, so it's just a simple step to turning tricks. Known several people in the industry, if you listen they'll tell you in innuendo terms how they went to City X, with this guy, had a great time, got this and that, etc. Compare the stories to non 'sex workers' and they are very, very similar. Just less obvious about the final transaction. It's why the arrangement websites are so popular, lots of pro's on there and girls that love the idea of being paid for it but don't want the moniker of whore.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yep, they have no problem using men to get to xyz city... And it's always about having a good time, or how the guy provided xyz for them to be able to travel and have a great time. The name of the game was always "I'm doing this for you because I want that pussy..."
Women feel totally content with that agreement. Men being infatuated with them and paying stupid amounts of money to access their attention. Blue pill idiots fall for this constantly.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Ya, except this was just her turning tricks. No two ways about that. She didn't outright announce it, but the subtext and context were obvious. She didn't know the guy and went to another city on a trip for the weekend. I knew who she was actually dating (me and my ex at the time being two of them) and guys with no names, don't count. lol.
Carefree_bot 6y ago
You DO care?
^^You ^^probably ^^meant ^^to ^^say ^^"Couldn't ^^care ^^less"
Cantahente 6y ago
couldn't care less. Thanks grammar nazi lol
Ruhkov 6y ago
People don't make sense. Holding frame and managing the perception others have of you is the same thing as the shit-tests women play on men. I don't hold anything against women for the way they act. I might even act the same way if I were in their place with the amount of guys out there throwing themselves at them. It makes perfect sense. We all die alone. We're all looking out for numero uno, our kids, and sometimes our parents.
Women derive their power from their words. That's how it works. That's how they grow up. I know how different it was for me and the guys growing up from elementary school and on and it's always been the same. Everything I need to know about people I learned on the playground. Little Suzy who chased the boys trying to kiss them never changed. The boys never wanted her to stop kissing and we all didn't trust her. All of the girls were jealous of Suzy and they talked behind her back. Is it really any different, 10, 20, or 30 years down the road? I know plenty of older guys who go monk and tell me that they don't miss the pussy at all. I believe them.
Red pill shouldn't be about finding justification to hate women. That will only weaken the movement. It really isn't difficult to understand them at all. They think the same way I do when I'm gaging how far I'm willing to go for a woman. It's up to us to draw the line where we feel it's appropriate for us. It's not their fault if we let them take advantage of us or our feelings, bud. My dad used to always tell me, falling in love is fun, but don't ever fall in love. Be very careful who you give your heart to.
Women make the same mistake with men who treat them like cumrags. I don't feel sorry for the men or women.
HandsomeCub 6y ago
OP has a point though, AWALT is in all of them, and its repulsive. I'd call it princess mentality or provider entitlement. I just want it gone. How can this be fixed?
Ruhkov 6y ago
I don't know. I'd like to see it gone as well. Teach our daughters differently and stop paying sugar babies $3k/mo to date. It'd require a societal paradigm shift to begin with and maybe it's just our lot that we live through this time. When I was little my parents told me that if I were a girl I could scrape by being pretty and marrying a good dude but since I was a boy I had to have the ability to provide. This is an old school idea and I know girls around my age heard the same shit. Mix that with the post feminist movement and it's no wonder we live in the clusterfuck in which we do. It's like 99% an act. If you had a pussy though wouldn't you make the most of it?
TBH it's better to know that's how things are.. and then make rational decisions based on that rather than not know and be susceptible to being taken advantage of. Another thing my old school parents warned me about. Watch out for the loose women.
Cantahente 6y ago
No one ever said red pill was justifying in trying to hate women. Red pill was always about revealing the truth. Remember neo wouldn't have woken up had he not taken the red pill. Some people hate the truth, but the truth doesn't care. The truth will set you free. No ije ever said the truth was supposed to make you feel happy. Everything I've said can be backed up by the truth. Look up hypergamy, Gynocentrism. It's all true. Men are being manipulated.
Why would you think that this is about "hating" women? I'm literally speaking from a place of logic and rationale. Did you that women don't pay net taxes (men are basically footing the bill)? Feel free to look any of this shit up. But don't just just sit there and try to summarize what guys are saying about this topic as simply "hatred of women." That's just ignorant and short sighted.
Ruhkov 6y ago
I didn't summarize what "guys" (read you) are saying about this topic as simply "hatred" of women, bro. Don't be lame referencing the matrix please that shit is so cringe. Isn't there a rule against that?
Redpill = waking up so you don't let women manipulate you anymore
Redpill = waking up so you don't let ANYONE manipulate you anymore... if you think guys don't shittest and fuck with other guys then I don't know what you're doing on here
Redpill = waking up so you start to understand how to influence people and play the "game" on your terms
Don't be defensive about my post. I encourage you to reread it. There is an unmistakable sense of resentment towards women on this board for being how they are and I get sick of the tone. I don't get pissed at an infant for shitting its pants. It's expected. Everyone is self-interested. Everyone will use whatever they have to get ahead. Everyone sticks to their own set of values and those values can change over time. If you are really redpill, you will see that truth and then the behavior you're talking about should make sense to you. Using sex as a bargaining chip is the oldest trick in the fucking book man don't pretend to be disappointed. You know what I mean?
People can surprise you in good and bad ways. My buddy from high school ended up being a pedophile. That shit is fucked. You can know someone for years and then they'll turn on you and show a side you never knew existed. It can be cold. It's fucked up. We don't always win. It's crucial to understand that the duality of human nature isn't confined to the feminine. They just have their own brand. The feminine brand.
Cantahente 6y ago
Very true. I agree with everything you just said. Yes, taking the red pill is about seeing things how they really are. People hire their friends first. HR divisions are feminist nesting zones
I had a similar situation with a child hood friend I grew up with. He did some shit to me recently that had me having to prove my innocence and I can never trust him again. It's usually those closest to you that can do some major damage if they really want to.
I'm def glad men are awakening. Not everyone should just up and be a MGTOW. That's not my intention to convert everyone on here either. Do what works for you. But let the truth guide you. That's why I feel Red Pill and Mgtow cannot exist with out one another. The Red Pill was always about facing reality for what it is. Not this fantasy la la bullshit a lot of these SJW's are trying to instill within social media.
If my tone sounds anti woman, then good. I'm done trying to sound like they deserve equal respect. That respect was lost the minute they decided to do things that have been causing men great harm. You can look up the stats if you're bored one day. But it's literally open season out there for a single white male.
I don't resent women. I love women actually. But they won't get any special treatment from me. They treat me with respect and they'll get my respect. You know, the way it was always supposed to work.
Again, I don't hate women. I'm simply calling out what they've been up to. I am anti-asshole. Male or female just don't be an asshole. And women in 2017 some how feel this does not apply to them. They lack agency and love playing the victim. I don't expect things to change anytime soon which is why I'm walking away from it.
I look forward to the artificial womb and sex doll revolution. Also, notice women who are subbed to this thread. Why is that? Because they are terrified that men have awakened. They're hoping they can figure out a way to keep most of you from leaving the plantation. Just know that it always boils down to them having a pussy and you wanting to fuck that pussy. Once you take that power away from them, They bring nothing else to the table....and they know this....and it terrifies them
Ruhkov 6y ago
You know the ideas of rp aren't really new. Rp is just a brand and the board increases the reach. I have hope for the movement as well. I hope it doesn't get hijacked or warped.
Others may disagree with me and this is just my unsolicited opinion but I'd advise you to stay aways from making blanketed statements about any 1 particular group of people especially with conflicting statements "I sound anti-woman and they don't deserve respect" and "I don't hate women, I'll respect them if they respect me". From a practical standpoint it makes your argument sound weak.
But yeah man, don't put women on a pedestal. They're just people like you and me. I like to say everyone starts at 100% with me. Then they fuck it up with their actions.
Cantahente 6y ago
The men's right movement is basically being taken over by women as we speak. It failed. Getting political will not help. The mra's have been at it for decades and now they're basically labeled a "terrorist" group.
If you're red pilled you'll be always be seeking the truth. Women are terrified at this movement, this awakening because it shows how much they need us. They hate the truth, but the truth doesn't care.
chillyG 6y ago
women are so simple to understand.................you simply don't pay attention, to them.
Cantahente 6y ago
I didn't realize so many white knights were trying to pass themselves off as Red pill. Did you not read what I wrote? Lol. I spent the last 15 years trying to game and understand females. Their nature. What I found is that they're narcissistic self entitled maniacs who will always want more. The answer to the question "what do women want..." is more. Women want more, and they'll never be satisfied. Women today have more rights and privileges than ever... Yet they're more depressed than ever. Why is that?
Because feminism sold them a lie. It told them they would be happier pursuing a career, acting like a man, trying to be like a man. You have leftist fanatics out there today arguing that biology plays no role in whether or not you want to associate with being a man or a woman. Call me Z Lololololol. But we all know women can never take responsibility for their own actions, so they're blaming anyone and anything but themselves.
Then you have white knight Cucks like you sir trying to comment on some "you just don't understand women" bullshit. And I'm sitting here saying that, once you understand female nature, you'll know that they can and should never be trusted. (look up the stats for female CEO's... Or just look at the recent equafax fuck up).
Don't take my word for it. Look up all the divorce stats and who initiates divorce (mainly women).... The false rape accusations and how they've skyrocketed as of late... The male suicide rate and how it's being ignored.
You claim to be red pilled, but you literally have your head up your ass thinking that red pill means that you'll be able to get laid easier the more you work on your "frame" Lololol. Keep thinking with your dick like every other schmuck. I'll keep pushing these red pills.
bernierbruh 6y ago
Is the general quality of strippers going down? I live in Toronto and can’t tell if it’s just a local phenomenon.
Austonmatthews345 6y ago
I don't know why anyone would pay for a stripper lmao. Any guy that visits a stripper reeks of desperation "hey look at me I'm paying to get a boner for someone sitting on my lap". Get real, any girl interested in you will sit on your lap and jiggle that booty.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yes and no. You could say that most of the girls who would have gotten into stripping chose other options because of technology.
Now there's cam girls, back pages, which are basically "escort services". But a lot of girls would rather strip for a few weeks, get one or two regulars who are going to "support" them (pay their bills for "services rendered") and then work on and off. It's funny because women do this type of shit anyway, most just choose not to be a stripper while doing it lol. But There's literally no difference once you see it for what it really is.
We had a nice string of Russian immigrants flood the market at one point but that ended by 2012. Now it's mainly latin and Brazilian. Black chicks as well. But black bitches are some of the most scheming hoes on the planet. Friend of mine made a fake craigslist profile claiming he was a rich playboy looking to spend money on some lucky ladies and when it was said and done the type who kept hitting him up the most were black bitches lol. It would be one light skinned chick for every 10 black chicks messaging him.
But now you have girls using Instagram and Snap Chat to do their dirty work. DM's are huge and a lot of strippers use those apps very strategically to keep in contact with their "regulars" (TFL's with money who basically who take a liking to said dancer etc...to which she'll spend the next couple of months sucking him dry and making his life a living hell lol).
During the day you have a lot of single moms. Night time has become a Frankenstein fest of botox and plastic surgery alterations (fake everything). The one I'll never understand is ass injections. You literally can't strip at night with out having an ass that's like a cartoon drawing.
Guys don't really give a fuck as long as it looks hot. It's not like we're demanding these bitches get plastic surgery to get our attention. Women do this for other women. I've seen it first hand. The peer pressure involved in not having your looks fade when competing to get the best "providers" (guys with the most money) is insane.
Girls who I thought looked perfect are getting these procedures done and it looks horrible IMO. It can literally be argued that all women have tried stripping at one point in their lives (they'll never admit it, trust me)
macaroon18 6y ago
Your mate makes a fake profile but the schemers are the women who respond?
Cantahente 6y ago
All men are dogs bro. We just want to fuck. Which is why we stick our dicks in glory holes. Its expected for men to act like idiots. Yet women still get the "innocent angel" persona. Blue Pill men actually think that sex should be something sacred and that women deserve to be treated like queens. GTFOH with that bullshit lolol
Edit: I'm all for prostitution to be legal. Enough with this cloak and dagger "i'm not with you because you're so rich and properous" bullshit. Women are the only ones who use the term "love" to hook a guy into thinking love actually exists. It doesn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBNi9QfPTe4
0signal0 6y ago
Care to explain what these mean?
Deep_freeze202 6y ago
Direct messages and I'm guessing total fucking losers
jethreezy 6y ago
TFL == True Forced Loneliness
basically a synonym for incel, though supposedly it even predates that term
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
And what is the reason they would all have stripped at some point? For the validation or for the money?
Cantahente 6y ago
Because women learn from a very early age that their pussy has value. Most men are horn dogs who are always thirsty for pussy.
Some even understand that their pussy has an expiration date. Feminism has fucked with this notion for women, making them think that they can be "desirable" for ever....thinking they can have kids at age 40 etc...... But it's like that Stripper who's past her prime and doesn't know when to hang up that g-string.
Imagine being able to walk around knowing that men want you for your body. It's called Sexual Market Value, and a woman's SMV is at it's strongest from 16 - 22. Factor in most kids today being raised by single mothers and you get a recipe for disaster. Kids being raised by social media basically...which is all Materialism and empty values.
The reality is that Pussy is really all a woman does have to offer. They did it to themselves. The only reasons why feminism even has the power it has today is because other men allowed it to happen. These same men are using Feminism to control other men and it's been very successful.
So to answer your question. Every woman is different and has her reasons why she's tried to strip (some for attention, some for validation, daddy issues etc.)...but one thing that they'll always have in common is....doing it for the money. Shaking that money maker. Prostitution is the worlds oldest profession. And the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making us think women could ever be wholesome (and that he never existed....he does and you can find it in any and all women ..lol).....
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[deleted] 6y ago
By the time a girl is 13 the idea that all men want to fucker her is already old news. As any woman who will speak freely with you and has nothing to lose, ask her when she realized all men want to fuck her.
destraht 6y ago
I think that they figure it out a bit later if they don't grow large tits. In this case they'll know that every man wants to fuck her friend and then 1-2 years later they find out that every man also wants to fuck her.
8n0n 6y ago
I'd vote hunting over that, fucking is not fun on an empty stomach.
Great post and thread.
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Cantahente 6y ago
It's pretty old. Pimping is probably up there too though. These hoes can't do this shit alone. They need a pimp
FractalNerve 6y ago
As a computer scientist with a focus on machine learning and web technologies, what do you think is a low hanging fruit that's missing in the industry I could develop?
What's some high hanging fruit that's just waiting to be bargained of, but no one has come up with a solution for yet?
Also what type of suggestions do you give nerds like me who at least knows howto dress and exercise? :) (never been to a strip club or similar yet)
Cantahente 6y ago
How do you mean? Most strip clubs operate like restaurants. We have food, drinks, and music, and naked bitches. If anything club owners are always being bombarded by people trying to get them to buy advertising. But their def always looking to combat losing money from careless bartenders. Clubs live and die by their alcohol sales.
On the DJ side we've been using the same equipment for the last 10 years. Serato (laptop) , a mixer and two cdjs.
You could help create a club that operates like a strip club, only all the strippers would be robots lol. That's where I see all this heading. Life like companion bots that guys would want to hang out with without having to deal with the drama that real women love to cause (because it's in their evil nature).
I'm also always amazed at how many guys are so ashamed that they aren't being desired by these dumb cunts. Look man, you're in good health, making good money, working in a professional field that will only have you making more money every year. You have no idea what a big target you're going to be to women looking find someone to take care of them. Do not fall for it. They will use pussy to try and trap you. Even worse they'll cuck you into providing all the resources for them while fucking Chad on the side. They'll even get pregnant by Chad and have a guy like you to provide and raise the kid for them.
My advice, stay single and keep stacking that paper. Once you have over 2 million in the bank you basically have "fuck you" money. Do what ever you want and never take orders from a woman because she's giving you pussy. Do not get married or you can kiss half of everything you've earned goodbye.
Focus on your job and your work, immerse yourself in your hobbies that bring you joy. Jerk off alot or buy a sex doll for a couple thousand dollars (Turd Flinging Monkey has some great advice on this) if you can't get bitches out of your head.
Do not get involved with these psychos though. Their entire game is to lock down a guy like you. You are nothing but a utility to them. With all your money you can fly down to Brazil a couple times a year with your other rich friends and fuck non western bitches. Bitches in Brazil are not stuck up like they are in the west. But even that is changing. Feminism has reached everywhere. No where is safe anymore. But it's still a billion times worse here in the states... Which is why, if you look at the marriage rate... It's all but come to a full halt. I'm personally not surprised by no one getting married anymore because I've been following this shit for a while now. The family courts are essentially corrupt with the system designed to be against men. Hence why men are walking away from it all together.
FractalNerve 6y ago
Thanks for the fast response, highly appreciated!! I am in Germany, so things aren't that crazy, but your points are valid. Hahaha Robot Strip Clubs, wow that's cool and I bet rich Japanese business men would sell their soul to see that happening ????????it really sounds plausible. I have been working on automating human processes in Banks and Insurances, so I can't see this not happening in every viable business. Heck with bayesian one-shot learning (if someone finds a robust way), you can give people a stupid robot and let just show them what to do like a kid and they will immitate. Seriously coming to agriculture to improve the quality assurance process automatically even at very small farms.
Cantahente 6y ago
They're already attempting to open up sex robot brothels, which keep getting shut down because the real hookers keep protesting LOL
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/779841/Sex-robot-brothel-Lumidolls-Barcelona-prostitutes-complain-police
Women would rather have the world burn than to see men happy
FractalNerve 6y ago
Haha wow that's like taxi drivers protesting against ueber, it will come
Cantahente 6y ago
You can't stop technology. It will roll right over them. Gotta love the double standard though. Women only want shit to progress if it benefits ONLY them. Feminism is a perfect example. It was never about equality. It's about putting them first and then everything else later.
FractalNerve 6y ago
You're right but we don't live in a meritocracy or in another benevolent form of society where being good is respected and values. You call these people beta cucks and it's almost always true, even though blue pilled men see it that different and believe they are giving for someone else to take benefit of without wanting back. The truth is however that they indeed expect something huge back, that is sex. And their offer isn't as selfless as they want to believe themselves.
True good-heartedness exists and the movie "paying it forward" tells how it's done. But only blue pilled or naïve souls and rarely well educated people want someone other than themselves to succeed without wanting anything back. Some call that philanthropy, but I don't buy that. It's just too good to be true.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yep. Why do you think women never respect these blue pill cucks? Because they know that these guys are being inauthentic. These same guys will pick up a girls laundry for them, buy them food, pay their bills, and then ACT like they don't want anything in return...but then get pissed off when the girl they're doing this for doesn't up and "fall in love" with them.
These guys are lost, and it's toxic because they're the ones who go postal. Remember that guy who went on a killing spree and recorded it on Facebook Live (He shot an old man walking down the street minding his own business.). His girl had cheated on him. He went nuts.
No good deed goes unpunished. The blue pill way has always been to hide your true feelings about something. And to act like everything is going fine. Men have to sit there and take it and never protest...because simply put.... Vagina.
Egalitarianism is basically communism. I actually still have friends who think that "if its a good for women, then it must be good for men..." These same guys are cucked beyond belief.
FractalNerve 6y ago
I always say: rarus sunt carus. It means rare to be valued or what's rare is worthier. Acting is for politicians, whores and woman who want to be. High Testosterone can act like an emotional silencer especially if you also form "almost mechanical" habits like going 6x to the gym for nothing but to keep the discipline and the eventual push you sometimes need. It's an easy and brutally honest reward system, which also can bite you in the long run, if pushing too hard like everything in life.
Anyways, I think a healthy struggle to fight in your life is absolutely required for feeling not only happy but fulfilled. That's because the main state your brain is continously locked in is being unpleased and the struggle. But that's excellent and required. Having 100% of your goals reached can destroy the most lucky and happy man and even drive them to suicide! Struggle is life and you can have little or big goals you can define to make this struggle worthy. I hope I don't step your toe, but the only man I spoke to who gave up on pussy adamantly like you had an heartbreaking moment that made him go queer and be happy since. I wish you to find a way and purpose aside from just making money. You can make a difference, take the red pill and be a different man. Feel the pain life really is and combine that with your anger, because we're replacable just like batteries. Use your energy for good and educate yourself and without the intent to whore that knowledge for money and benefit of industries. But for achieving your goals =) it only sounds naïve because it's true, illusionary because we're conditioned to consume, work, reproduce to consume more, get fucked harder and loose our will after hitting the projection of happiness on the wall.
Edit: I still need to read the sidebar, I'm new and can do so after my deadlines, suggestions are heartly welcome.
Cantahente 6y ago
The red pill and mgtow helped me find inner peace. Yes, there was red pill rage, but being able to share that frustration with like minded individuals on subs like this is certainly therapeutic. The path less chosen. Red pilling for most men is pain and most people want to avoid pain. Most people will not face their own demons. Staying blue pill will have anyone who reads this become infuriated. Because it fucks with everything they've been sold.
Money will not make you happy. Sex will not make you happy. You are born alone, and you will die alone. Everything else we spend doing on this rock will be dependent upon you, and how you decide to proceed in this very short life.
All I can say us that I'm going my own way, and it's a beautiful feeling.
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Augustine2017 6y ago
Thanks for your post. Thoughtful, informative stuff. You've playing the long game here, which i definitely agree with. Why spend your limited time, money, and energy trying to get laid when there's so much more to do in life?
I've gotten to the point where, like you, I'll be friends with women and screw them if sex falls into my lap. Otherwise, I got better things to do. Virtually all women offer nothing more than sex in return for their manipulation, drama, and resource drain. I don't have time to look for that magical exception to the rule either, assuming she even exists.
Also. I don't get all the hate on MGTOW. Are some MGTOWs crybabies and chump incels? Yep.
Are some TRP guys deluded PUA wannabes who center their entire lives around chasing pussy? Yep.
Doesn't mean either group, at its core, is wrong.
brinkleybuzz 6y ago
What's the only difference between a stripper, hooker and "respectable woman."
A "respectable woman" doesn't accept cash for her services.
tallwheel 6y ago
They all do, man, one way or another.
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clavabot 6y ago
Off topic?
If I wanted to do what your doing ie, be a DJ in my spare time, any useful information you could direct me towards to help teach me the ins and outs of the dj business
Cantahente 6y ago
The DJ business is like any other business. You have find a nitch and run with it. Ive been doing it for so long that I already expected to be the next diplo or skrillex. It hasn't happened yet. But you're basically working 24/7. Promoting yourself is non stop. I'm basically burned out and don't even like going out any more. I stopped drinking years ago from always being around it. I don't really do drugs (I've always been an athlete since high school), never liked em. I like getting to bed early and waking up at a normal time now. Tired of of getting home at 6am. It's def a young man's game. I would need to start producing music and building an online presence in order to really take off, but I've been saying that for the past 10 years. Its easier said then done. Or I'm just over thinking it like I do with alot of stuff. Hell, that's what intrigued me so much about being a pua. How guys were breaking shit down to the last detail. The science of it all.
I actually had a decent online setup going but ran into some harassment issues from a few sjws who tried to smear my name. I won't get into it, but false accusations were made and it was me basically having to prove my innocence solely on their word. When the truth finally came out they were never held accountable for even making up said accusations. I'm still recovering from this mess, and have to regroup. Yes people are cunts out there and you have to watch out who you get in bed with, literally lol.
I went to school to for radio TV and film and wanted to be in radio. But I graduated when the podcast was catching on, and the radio business was on its way out. So basically anyone can do what I went to school for. For free. Getting paid enough to pay the rent has been a juggle ever since.
Right now I basically play music I could give a fuck about. But I do it well. Still, club owners only care about how much clientele you can bring. They view all DJ's like an mp3 player. They don't understand how much of an art DJing can be. To them it's just press play and music plays.
I'm DJing a benefit for the hurricane relief in two weeks (small party a friend is trying to put together, noting major). It's for a good cause but I hate doing events for free. You basically have to do free events every week and hope that you land more clients that way. It's knowing how to show you're worth the money you charge and not showing that you're pissed that you have to go out and do free events for better publicity. And trying to maintain that enthusiasm you had when you first started even though you've been doing it for years with not much to show for etc. Lol.
I've def accomplished alot which I'm downplaying on here right now. But the money could always be better. The gigs could always be better. Every job has its pros and cons. I still love DJing music. That will never change. It's all the other bullshit that I have to deal with outside of DJing the music that can be a Muthafucker depending on what day it is.
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Cantahente 6y ago
Late 30's. Met her at a house party (she was 23, I was 28). She was interviewing for a residency with NYU. She didn't get it, and ended up doing her residency in California. She'd visit NYC a couple times a year and we'd hook up. It easily fizzled out. Long distance never works, and I was neck deep in PUA adventures, going out 7 days a week. She was one of many I was juggling. It was work
Kryptic_Knight 6y ago
Blame their emotions. Women aren't logical, nor are they deep thinking. Many women hamster simply just to eventually A.D.D. on something else that's happened to them recently, just the way of the chromosome.
They're really not that hard to understand/deal with. Stonewall techniques work all the time and on every type of female because you're simply not giving into their emotions. As eyebrow raising as it may seem, women dominate and control with emotion. For most men this is enough to give up, and simply ride her hypergamy...
For me, I know its time to activate gargoyle mode and have her crying herself back to my warm embrace. They never truly stop being children.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
So much this. When my primary starts losing her crap, sends 5 or 6 texts of emotional vomit, I just ignore it until she says or asks something not related to whatever drama is playing through her head. They are good... too good at clicking our 'logic centers' but if you can resist the urge to 'answer and correct' (Dad mode?) then they will always hamster their way back out to an "I love you" or "I'm sorry, I'm cranky" or some other thing. Some supportive "we got this" or other such phrases to let them know you're ok, pats the little girl on the head and they'll 180 and be skipping happily in no time.
AnimalFactsBot 6y ago
Depending on the species hamsters can be black, grey, honey, white, brown, yellow, red, or a combination of these colors.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
hahaha. hamster identity politics.
AnimalFactsBot 6y ago
Hamsters are great as pets because they are easy to breed in captivity, easy to care for and interact well with people. They are also used as laboratory animals.
Cantahente 6y ago
They're literally 12 forever. They have zero regard for logic or rational thought, only when it benefits them. If they really wanted equality it would have never got to this.
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
So true. I once foolishly got into a discussion about sexual gate-keeping with my GF's younger GF. She told me "Oh, you could walk into the bar and just get sex anytime." I had to laugh. Ya, I'm attractive. Ya, I get laid if I make an effort to spin plates. But no, she couldn't even fathom the concept that men have to TRY. To her, we were equal in all things, she didn't even understand that at 23, with her hot ass and youthful looks, she was saying NO probably 100 more times than the most studly guy was saying "how about it?" To her, we had the same experience with sex. It was hilarious. I literally laughed at her ridiculous outlook. So did her GF. That's the most obvious way to express it. Men say "Wanna?" and girls say "Yes/No." And a 12 year old should be able to logic that, but not one that's got raging hormones and can't see past their next snack time. Sort of sums up the lack of rational thought.
Cantahente 6y ago
Lol, she was talking about herself in terms ir how it goes down in a bar
Dragon_Garoo 6y ago
Exactly. And couldn't comprehend that it's not the same for men. So used to one perspective (and a lot of feminist drivel taught in Law school, of all places) that she also convinced herself that she was sexually assaulted when she gave a bar owner head. Cuz regret. But kept seeing him. Uh huh.
Gilgs 6y ago
If you internalize AWALT, then nothing really surprise you anymore.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yes, I guess my post was trying to say that women are the same, from the hooker stripper junkie to the ivy league super model.
One thing I will say is that the women who did end up having a good job, probably positive attitude in life... All had amazing fathers or mentors who were actively present in their life. But anytime I dated a chick from a broken household it was always a dramatic mess.
Good women are a million to one. Those odds are far and few so don't even try getting involved. It simply is not worth it. The artificial womb is almost here if you really wants kids. Sex dolls are also coming along. There's really no reason to fuck with women in 2017 unless you like pain and misery.
dr_warlock 6y ago
How to seduce a hot stripper without working at a strip club or being a money slinger would be a good guide.
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I did a ton of this in my 20's. The deal is though you will have to spend some money in the club just because there's a cover, drinks, and you don't just want to sit there all night with nothing to do. But you don't have to pay for dances from the girl you want, or maybe just a few but you're going to talk the whole time and only make eye contact and NEVER STARE AT HER TITS or ANYONE ELSES. You basically have to act like she's in your living room and she's standing there in front of you with like a sandwich or some shit.
Strippers are always looking for a "regular" and they're great at playing the long game and reading frame. I wouldn't suggest trying to pull strippers unless you are legitimately a crazy partier. They can tell. Strippers love a crazy fun fucked up guy who will party just as hard as them if not harder.
If you show a drop of thirst they will look at you like a cat looks at a piece of fish and you will be in the "John" category and strippers only fuck Johns for money.
Sometimes if you're really good looking and fun or have a big dick you can fuck them or get a blow job during your dances just because she's drunk and you're fun/hot/big dick. That's it though. If you want to consistently bang strippers in and out of the club you have to be in some kind of mindset.
There was one stripper I used to bang a lot, never spent a dime on her, she always spent her money on me. Why? I was fucking fun, I would fuck all night, do crazy fucked up shit to her, etc...
I used to love to walk up to the girls when dudes throw dollars, I'd tell them to turn around and show me their asshole, I'd wad up my $1's and one by one try to bean her in the brown eye because strippers are worthless fuck bags for my entertainment.
If you're a twisted perverted sociopath like that with frame that could withstand a nuke and an insatiable appetite for drinking and fucking then strippers will fucking love you. God I miss the younger me sometimes.
Cantahente 6y ago
The best guys who are genius' at doing this: You just have to love to chat it up with any and all women. It has to come off as authentic. This also means being comfortable as fuck in your own skin; down to what you're wearing, how you dress, what you drink....even how you pull out your money to pay. Women notice every little fucking detail.
They can tell if you're faking it until making it. But the more you practice the more natural it will look.
How to get good at being comfortable around naked bitches trying to get money out of you. If you don't know how to be comfortable around a regular bar setting then the strip club setting will be even harder.
The guys who have their shit together never make sudden moves. They even take longer to blink or turn to look at the dancers on stage. Suave.
It's a lot of push pull when you engage in a conversation. But from the start the women know that it's his way or no way. You're either the guy who they're going to take as much money off of or the cool guy who they don't want a dime from but if you give it to them it's cool too. That can take years to naturally convey
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dr_warlock 6y ago
Not worried about money escaping my wallet. Never been to a strip club though. Something to visit this weekend just because.
menial_optimist 6y ago
Prepare to see a black man employee working in the washroom who will hand you paper towels with a tip plate next to him. I'm a grown ass man I can wipe my own god damn hands. Without fail its always a black guy too. No matter which club you to goto.
HS-Thompson 6y ago
Relax, they are just there to stop you from snorting too much blow out in the open. At least not without dropping them a $20 that is.
Cantahente 6y ago
Strip clubs are basically all the same in how they operate. If you've never been and don't want to be overwhelmed by the craziness go from 9pm - 11:30pm. That's when it will be slowest. It pics up after midnight. Buy a drink (even water costs 6.00 or so) and if you're not looking to spend a lot get like 40.00 in singles at the most. That will last you a good amount of time if you're by yourself.
Note that there will be girls coming over to you all night trying to get you to take them for a lap dance. When it's slow around that time you can actually have a conversation with them and chat them up. They'll be bored waiting for it to pick up so just ask them anything and they'll probably answer it. If you do end up having a decent conversation with a girl who you vibe with, you can take her in the back for a lap dance (one song, 25.00, some places are cheaper) or you can just give her a couple more singles for her time, thank her for chat and she'll be on her way. Rinse and repeat. Remember, every girl there is trying to make a special connection with a new customer.
For a girl to make money the strip club doesn't need to be busy. They'll all try and give you a sob story that it's been dead all day and they're broke (strippers are always broke....they literally have the worst money management skills on earth). One guy can walk in and give a girl 500.00 just for talking with him. But yes, some days they'll walk out with pennies.
dr_warlock 6y ago
Just went like 2 hrs ago for the first time. Surrounded immediately because of my dress attire. Constant 'flirting'. I just walked around to check out the talent.
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One in particular was a bit more genuine and I sat down with her. A friend of hers comes by to act 'drunk' and give her friend some props and make her look good. Went into the back room for a lap dance. It was quite nice. A lot more touching and kissing was allowed than I thought. I noticed she gave me more like four songs than the 2 I paid for. Then I left.
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Interesting. But man I can tell that the average man would be hustled out of a ton of money for nothing.
nebder 6y ago
Willingly hustled out of that money no less.
I used to have a buddy I’d go drinking and fucking around with. He had the hots for a bartender at one of the local chain restaurants. Bartender used to be a stripper at the local club. Made plans for all of us to go there after her shift one night. She talked up the owners and went on stage. My buddy tossed her $160 in $20s and she did not even take any clothes off. I was stunned by the ridiculousness of it.
Dude was single no kids so he had money. $160 can buy a helluva lot more than paying a woman to dance in her clothes.
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Surrounded because you looked like you wanted to spend money and you dressed nice to impress the worthless fuckbags.
Brother let me tell you there is not a drop of "genuine" in a strip club other than genuine deceit. I basically spent my 20's in strip clubs. The stripper with a heart of gold is the oldest one in the book.
Getting shit for free (extra dances) isn't a sign she likes you, it's an investment.
Next time you go in, go in with the frame of zero fucks, zero thirst, just there to party (because honestly what better place to party is there besides a strip club). See what happens.
RushingPrecision 6y ago
Youre an idiot and obv someone who doesnt fuck strippers frequently if ever. If shes giving you extra dances w.o timing you and charging more thats a go signal for getting her number. Source guy who's fuct a lot of bad bitches, w.o paying, and cringing at some of the misguided advice in the thread
dr_warlock 6y ago
That's a good sources cited: "Source: Guy who's fuct a lot of bad bitches"
RushingPrecision 6y ago
I love bad bitches that's my fucking problem
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[deleted] 6y ago
I, for one, very much see your point. And I thank you for taking the time to post.
This sub went from "develop yourself as a man" into "rage and hatred at women because I can't get laid and Trump is God and I'd suck Jared Kushner's alpha dick so hard."
You make extremely valid and strong points. Most people on this sub won't see it. They don't WANT to see it. They want to feel hatred at women and life in general because they want justification for how shitty their lives are.
Didn't always used to be that way here. Now I come here mostly for entertainment, but your post is spot-on.
Cantahente 6y ago
My understanding of being Red Pilled is seeing how the world really works. And especially how women manipulate and cause issues for men. Obviously they aren't holding a gun to our heads, but if you're blue pilled you won't see how they're able to get guys into situations that render them helpless....left to give these women half their earnings etc.
I'm not surprised at the hate on here. Been reading a lot of on here and a lot of posts wreak of PUA type mentality being obsessed with Frame and how to maintain it lol. These guys don't really seem to be red pilled at all. I already went through all that positive affirmation shit during my PUA years. That stuff is nice and positive and def do it to help improve yourself, but fuck trying to think that women need to reward you in any way for having said frame. They don't even realize they're doing all this shit to be respected by Pussy.
None of that matters. I used to think that fucking a new girl every day would bring me happiness. I was only doing it for props and high fives from my friends. In the end it only stressed me out more. Women are masters at causing drama. You hang with them and that's what you eventually get.
Neo_Trunks 6y ago
Dude, what the fuck has Trump to do with this shit?
Typical trendy trying to spread hate.
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Browse the threads here. Lots of "professionals" who run "seminars" for redpill redditors (for a huge fee, of course), and the threads contain plenty of worship of Trump. That's what redpill had become.
Neo_Trunks 6y ago
At least that tells you something about Trump, right?
It's not by accident that no one teaches Obama's way of life hahaha
2 completely different individuals!
[deleted] 6y ago
Exactly! That's why I registered for the seminar for $5,000. Now ALL the women will line up for my redpill dick!
Ruhkov 6y ago
Trump worship has got to be the absolute dumbest shit in the world. If you are learning a "Trump way of life" you are getting conned by some trolls so fucking hard lmao
Neo_Trunks 6y ago
Butthurt much? Get over it.
Ruhkov 6y ago
Topkek. Just redpilling the truth, brother. Didn't know you were a fanboy of his. You sound butt hurt tbh. You go to Trump University? Lmao
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Luckyluke23 6y ago
I feel the same as you dude, and I can tell you I've had WAY fewer girls than you have.
though, chasing pussy down the rabbit hole has been the BEST decision I have EVER made in my life. I wouldn't be who I am today
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Cantahente 6y ago
When she's not in site...then she's no longer yours (In terms of girlfriend/wife etc.) Women looove never having to take responsibility for anything they do or don't do. So in the club scene, it's always the "alcohol" or an "alphamale" that made her do it.
In all my years djing I can say that I've personally witnessed the term "All women are whores, you just have to catch them on the right day" on a nightly basis. With out fail. If they have the chance to cheat and never be caught, expect it.
"She's not your girl, it's just your turn." And depending on what they need you for (resources, validation, leeching) will determine the length of time you'll be with them; that's if you're not in the drivers seat.
I stopped fucking with girls who stay up past 8pm. I'm not even kidding. Most guys think that going out at night is the only way to meet women. You'll meet women alright, but all the wrong types. Any girl who doesn't mind getting tipsy in a room full of strangers that may or may not want to fuck their brains out is suspect. I've seen girls suck dudes off in the bathroom and act like nothing happened ten minutes later. You would never be able to tell.
Another thing working in the clubs has made me....is germaphobic. I'll make a bitch take a shower and use mouth wash in front of me before I even think about fucking with her. The shit women will do and then walk around for hours later. It's not wonder a lot of them get yeast infections. That shit just doesn't happen out of the blue lol.
You'd be surprised at how unsanitary grown ass women, super model types, are. People who you would expect to know how to properly wipe their own asses.
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What?
And if she doesn't do it, and something happens to her, then people ask "why didn't you do it? You should've known better?"
"All men are rapists, you just have to watch them at night".
So do men.
Why? What's wrong with a woman getting drunk around a bunch of strangers? Unless you're implying all men are portential rapists.
Cantahente 6y ago
It means that she lacks good judgment and doesn't mind putting herself in a situation in which she may be taken advantage of. When guys say "she's asking for it.." this is one of the things they're referring to. You don't go to a bar to drink alone. At least not any "respectable" woman I know
Edit: you think all men are rapists? Lol. This is the problem with today's SJW females who try and invade male spaces on Reddit. We don't need you, but you need us, or else you wouldn't be here trying to argue with me. I'm perfectly content with women far and away from me. But women need men... To provide, and to protect them. Feminism would be nothing without men to help you along with getting what you want. But more men are waking up
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You're implying all men will do something bad to a woman that's alone, but then why do you men get angry when women treat you that way? And you're wrong anyways, because I've seen women at bars alone, and nothing happened. I met a woman that accepted a ride from a male stranger who took her home, safe and sound.
You know who thinks all men are potential rapists? Rapists do. And so I wouldn't be surprised if you thought about doing something vile to a woman whom you saw alone and are now projecting it unto all men, because you don't wanna take responsibility for your sexist thought. Not all men are like you!!
No, you do, by your first paragraph.
I didn't know I was an SJW. I guess all women who disagree with you are.
You're a strong, independent man who don't need no woman and yet, here you are online, bitching about us.
The last time I checked, women work.
Protection? Men are more likely to attack women that they know.
That's like white people who say blacks would be nothing without them.
Good. Radical feminists need to shut the fuck up.
Cantahente 6y ago
Again you keep implying that by my saying women should not be putting themselves in a position to drink with complete strangers that I'm implying men are rapists. I said nothing of the sort.
I said that these women make horrible decisions. Most even try to accuse men of rape or abuse or harassment after they regret what they've done with a guy they meet at a bar. It happens more than you would think.
Not all men are rapists, but most men are dogs. We already know this though, and many women use this motion as a way to paint themselves the "victim".
But most people still think a woman can do no wrong, that they're sugar and spice and everything nice. And that could be farther from the truth.
You can keep trying to invade these male spaces all you want. You're still a pussy ;)
Edit: women work but they're miserable. Look up the stats on why feminism has made women miserable. They'd rather be taken care of by a man. If you don't think so just ask yourself why women, even though they make good money, will not marry down. Most women can't find men today because they aren't lowering their standards. They all want a guy who's over 6 ft tall that makes more money than them Lololololol
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You said no respectable woman would go alone to a bar. You're implying men are going to do something bad to a woman because they see she's alone. You don't literally have to say it. You implied it.
By going to a club and getting drunk around a bunch of men? Implying men are going to do something bad to her cause she's alone and drunk.
If it's so common, then why do men keep putting themselves in that position? Sounds like women aren't the only ones making bad decisions.
You're projecting.
So most men are dogs, therefore women aren't victims? So you're taking responsibility away from men, and putting it onto women because most men are dogs?
Yea I don't know why either.
Haha and you're probably a rapist.
Some men are too.
I didn't know feminists passed a law the required women to work.
Why don't men marry women who make more than them?
Why should they?
Cantahente 6y ago
Nope, I'm saying that women who know the dangers of going out and staying out late (alone) are already up to no good. If you're looking for trouble yiure going to find it.
Stop trying to mske it seem like people who like to stay out past midnight, drinking at bars, are church going Christians. Scum bags hang out late out night, compared to during the day. You can try and say that that more people get "raped" more during the day all you want. Look up the stats. Most crimes happen AT NIGHT.
It is what it is. I'm a male. I know that I can get into more trouble going out with friends late night compared to day time. Women know this too. It's common sense. Plain and simple. That's all I'm getting at.
But if you find a hardcore straight A, validictorian, super healthy, punctual, ultra responsible woman...who still likes getting her drink on last midnight.... Then I'll just save you the time right now and call Bullshit.
You're only here to argue for arguing sake. Zero facts you're bringing. I'm simply obliging with continuing to respond because I'm right. The truth doesn't care about your feelings.
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You're stereotyping half the population because you worked in a strip club. Doesn't that sound odd to you?
Cantahente 6y ago
There's a reason why stereo typing exists... It's usually true, hence stereo typing. Again, we're not talking about the exception to the rule. Those odds are far and few.
JayBthirty4 6y ago
Had a girl in highschool throw a party in her dads house while he was away.
That night I was on the verge of a threesome with her and her friend but I knew the girl who hosted the party had been into some shit that night.
After my pandering for an answer turns out she sucked some dude off in that room earlier. Might I add, her fathers room.
I insisted she go to the bathroom and brush her teeth or none of us were getting any more action that night she was too lazy, and her friend was the far less attractive of the two so we never fucked.
Girls ain't shit.
LordThunderbolt 6y ago
What have u seen innthe clubs. Talk your shot dawg. What's some foul shit u seen?
smirk_addict 6y ago
I have always said this. Women don't like responsibility for anything that could possibly make them look bad. That's why they like being victims so much. You can never blame a victim for anything. You're either a hero, a survivor, or people feel sorry for you. I also don't like girls that like to consume alcohol for the exact reasons you listed. Sadly, alcohol is instant plausible deniability for women and they are not going to give that up. Even for the ones that "rarely drink", they feel they have less opportunities to let loose. So when they do, they have the worst boundaries.
You eliminate a lot of red flags just by finding a girl that doesn't drink. But I don't really know any attractive girl that doesn't or didn't drink. The ones that don't anymore are usually older and religious...we know why..
Trooper_1868 6y ago
same reason women like dangerous situations, not actually being in danger themselves.
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My wife literally does not bathe on a regular basis. I'm not kidding. She will go months without taking a shower or bath. She will sometimes use baby wipes if I complain that she stinks (which is almost all the time, but in the summer its way worse). She's (used to be more so anyway) a beautiful woman. But she wont take care of herself, and she has no interest. She has at least one inflected tooth for several years(!) and she refuses to goto the doctor. I've given up even trying to reason with her.
Cantahente 6y ago
Holy fuck. You're living with an actual pig. Months? She's literally trying to get you to divorce her. Is your situation of the "cheaper to keep her" kind? You basically have no sex life. Why did you even get married? Social pressure?
The dressing room of every single fucking strip club I've worked at is literally filthy, disgusting, garbage everywhere, sticky walls, finger prints all over the mirrors....if the bus boys didn't go in there every day and wipe down that shit it would be a fire hazard. I don't think these girls would even bathe if they weren't trying to look hot for customers to get money off of.
I once hung out with a super model who had horrible breathe. Later I realized it was halitosis that was from her horrible diet. She barely took showers. After two times I was out. Major red flags. When are you getting divorced? It will only get worse for you.
Before you announce it be sure you have a plan on how to proceed. Get your money in order and talk to a lawyer. You may be fucked either way depending on what state you live in. Most family courts just need to see her cry to throw the book at you. Good luck
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You are correct. We don't have kids (and never will) so it won't be as complicated.
qwertyytrewq2017 6y ago
Months without washing?????????????!??? Infected tooth for years????!!!!
She sounds severely depressed. Can she get to a therapist?
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I've tried to get her to go, and she did for awhile but she said they said she was "ok". She says she's not depressed. She acts like it though. I don't know what else I can do.
1UPZ_ 6y ago
Agreed.
Guys who expect to meet a decent woman in a bar or club drunk are wishing for a miracle. Its not impossible... I mean, their could be a woman who goes out very rarely and you end up meeting her and falling for each other... but thats so rare.
Meeting women at seedy places... another miracle wish right there.
I rather meet women through my female friends, because they will warn me about her and vice versa and they just know if it'll work out. But that was then anyways. Married now...
But I also know many women at the gym, thats another place I could potentially find a decent woman.... but not the ones who wear jeggings and bikinis as work out gear.
Hence why I'm so surprised guys from Reddit subs like incels, MGTOW, TRP etc. hate women and use Tinder/OKCupid etc as source of information.
Women in those apps are SLUTS, they are the modern club-sluts that my friends and I dealt with back in the late 90s and early 2000s.... the girls that end up making out and fucking around with any decent looking guys that try to dance with them or chat them up.... SLUTS.
Well, these girls found another way to get their kicks... and its even easier than dressing up, spending cash in the club... they just swipe right to nearby Male sluts (most are).
Tinder, OKCupid etc. Are all Hook up places and girls there will pick based on looks.... so finding a decent loyal girl there for long term relationship is a no no.... well... its high risk. How could you trust someone who will have sex with a stranger after just viewing their photo online one time..... imagine if they were drunk and around attractive guys.... you cannot trust that.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yep, the odds are literally a million to one. You cannot win playing those types of odds. It's literally like winning the lottery. I've never won the lottery before, but I've seen a shit ton of my friends end up broke from divorce.
You say you're now married. Are you regretting it? Is she starting to hold sex back or are you guys not even a year in?
One of my friends said that once he and his girl had the first kid, sex became rare. He's cheated on her before, and admits that it makes his love for her even stronger. I think it's from the guilt he feels. On the other side I've had friends who did everything right, were the best dads/husbands on earth and then they'd find out years later that their girl was a cheating whore. Every woman is different, but they still all have that hypergamous nature lingering in the background... Always looking to monkey branch if the opportunity arises.
zephyrprime 6y ago
Yeah it's the drama and the guilt. Powerful emotions have a weird amplifying effect on romantic feelings. This is especially true for women btw, but it also works on men to a lesser degree. The dumber the man is the more strongly it works.
Cantahente 6y ago
Socially women run circles around men. Most men don't know how to pick up on social cues. Women know this. It helps them play up the victimhood role even more so.
Even though I think PUA shit is pretty useless now, I still can't say it was worthless. The shit I learned as a PUA I would never take back. If you do not understand how women operate they will fuck you over, literally and figuratively.
I always ask myself every couple years if it was better to stay blue pilled with good job, making good money, thinking that women and marriage were good things (things society wants all men to keep thinking) vs being woke as fuck. And every time I conclude that you couldn't give me all the money in the world to go back to that mindset. I'd probably be married and divorced over three times by now, half of my assets going to all my ex wives......FUUUUUCK THAT
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EpicLevelCheater 6y ago
Read our rules, you dumb bitch.
Cantahente 6y ago
Sounds like a troll reply....but if you are really a woman....
You're living in a world where women have carte blanche. You may not want to cheat, or take your husband/boyfriend to the cleaners (via family courts) but the fact that you can means you probably will when given the opportunity.
Women who say they aren't like all the others, yet still benefit from all the "benefits" that Feminism has given them are basically lying to themselves and to the men they're around. Why are you even hanging out in this male space? Women do this shit all the time btw. They obsess over what men are doing/saying about them. You have no other hobbies besides
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nopiller 6y ago
dude, by that logic, we are all rapist, murderer, pedophile, whatever crime since we are able to do it if we want it
Cantahente 6y ago
Look up all the false rape accusations in the last decade. Here. For the lazy.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/1466-false-rape-allegations
Then there's the Yes means yes laws being passed in some states. Are you not comprehending why men have and it? It's not worth the mess. You don't even respect the very Cucks who gave you the power to get away with this shit.
Feminism has no pull without the white Knight cucks that are there to enforce it for you.
Are you even going to answer my question? Why are you here in this sub? In this male space? This would be like me subbing to the Wgtow sub Reddit or some other all female sub.
You guys literally can't let men have their own space where they can conversate in peace and quiet. You're always trying to make it about you. "I'm a female in this sub, pay attention to me... Blah blah blah... vagina."
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
My friend once told me his father told him, that "if you go out past 10 pm, you'll never experience anything good for you". Your comment remind me of that.
dancingkungfy 6y ago
I heard it another way. To put it simply - nothing good happens after midnight when you're out and about.
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littleblacktruck 6y ago
My grandpa: "The only thing out after 11 at night is jail and VD."
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Jesus. That is sound life advice. I should take it.
[deleted] 6y ago
A piece of advice from my grandpa "If you're not in bed by 12 go home." (don't stick around for the last call girls).
stirringlion 6y ago
I know what you mean! My grandpa used to always say "StirringLion, the only good thing after 1am is 4 packets of ketchup please." ( He had dimentia)
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
I saw the other comments and I think I see a pattern emerging.
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Grandpa's are usually pretty red pilled.
Kingoffistycuffs 6y ago
As my grandpa says, "getting old isn't for pussys!"
whatsthisgarg 6y ago
This is some golden stuff going.
sadomasochrist 6y ago
There is a lot of purple pill in here.
The girl that "goes to bed at 8pm" is either naive or a front. And the number of naive girls is approaching zero.
I mean the number of women I could comfortably assign this label to that I've met in my life, is probably 2. And both lost their virginity after they got married.
I also thought I was with "goes to bed at 8pm girl." Only time will tell if the red pill saved my family, but suffice to say, they're all 2am girls deep down inside.
If you focus on hypoagency, "8pm girl" makes a lot more sense. That's just her way to appear to have agency.
But if she knew she might have an interracial child on the way, that same button up church girl would be claiming she got raped.
This entire post reeks of the purple pill. You so desperately want to believe that a stripper and 8pm girl are two totally different women, or even different.
But they're not.
At least strippers are honest whores. If you get ripped off or duped by one, you know what you got into.
Church girl is the real peice of shit between the two of them.
If you really think about it, the women who are outwardly hypergamous are the ones ascribing to a masculine frame, though a perverted one, of honor and authenticity.
But they're just honoring their true feminine emotional state, in a masculine way.
So for as much hate as there is on here for those types of women, they're the closest you'll get to an honest woman.
cherryCanSuckMyDick 6y ago
Its the right thing to do, but they always seem so dead inside when they start doing it.
smirk_addict 6y ago
Hmm.. There is some truth to that. Two "good girls" that I know both told me they wish they had it in them to be loud and be able drink and party like other girls. They admired that shit. What a waste.
1UPZ_ 6y ago
maybe only in america...
church girls where I'm from are atleast scared to cheat because they dont want the reputation. Church girls are usually also family oriented where I'm from so they value family activities and thinking.
there are dirty slutty girls that go to church... but for social affiliations and mainly because their parents go... but you can tell who they are and a certain chain in that church group will be aware of their actions and reputations.
imElnumerouno 6y ago
Good women MUST come from a GOOD family where the dad and mother raise her right. Thats very rare. Most parents suck and raise kids that suck. City girls are the worst from my experiences. Girls (and boys) are left for TV and schools teach them to be entitled.. its only getting worse. Boys are taught how to be good provides and most can be. Women are being taught how to demand everything for being born a girl and its great to be a slut. The relationships I had in mind came from lies. The love I expected from a women as a man was built on those lies. Women are pretty pathetic cause most all got to offer is their beauty. Few have any real value.
Cantahente 6y ago
yeah, a lot of what you're saying I agree with. I use the "8pm" thing to describe the type of girl I would actually put effort into. Yes, of course going to bed early doesn't sum up everything but in my research I've found that most women who avoid bars/clubs are better off (yes, it's anecdotal evidence from where I come from). But my point is that they don't exist. And even if they did exist the odds are far and few so I'm not wasting any extra effort to seek them out.
I've worked in the night life scene long enough to be able to tell you for a fact that there are far more bitches up to no good after 9pm than there are decent ones. And yes, that's one quality I do like about Strippers. Their brutal honesty. Like I said before any woman is a whore, you just have to catch her on the right day.
I'm not too familiar with purple pill but from what I've heard about it, it seems like PUA's simply trying to rebrand what it is they're doing with women. A more mature version of what PUA's were trying to attain. But honestly, most guys who used to be PUA's either get married or become "purple pill". You can't be a PUA forever. I opted for mgtow because I'm done chasing anything. Women literally have to make all the moves (which is also a million to one, especially when you've got too many thirsty dudes out there).
A lot of guys in here also seem to think that going MGTOW means that you're avoiding any and all women, which is simply not true. Mgtow is men going their own way. My way and your way won't be the same. It's not a group like the MRA movement. Feminists are losing their minds over mgtow. They're trying to put it in the same category as the MRA movement, but the reason why MGTOW even exists is because the MRA brutally failed (women are basically running the MRA movement right now lol). I've had other Mgtow try and shame me for still having female friends and still having sex lol. There's def a lot of scared men who were fucked over by the courts and divorce process, and I sympathize with those guys. And yes, they do try and hog the name of MGTOW as something that only divorced men can understand but nope, Mgtow is for any and all men from all walks of life.
My stance on women is. Hang out with them, have fun with them. Have sex etc. But don't get married. Don't let them "borrow" money. And don't give them any special treatment just because they're sucking your dick. If that's purple pill then cool.
Again, a woman's plan for you has nothing do with your plans for her. Have fun with them but don't think for a second that they can ever love you or make your life easier. This is what I meant by them causing you misery. Name one friend of yours who's married and actually thinks his life is much better because he's married (without him coming off sounding like a neutered cuck). Most guys only talk about their kids. They can't stand their bitch of a wife.
imElnumerouno 6y ago
I was having a discussion with my wife yesterday about happy marriages. Women think because people post happy couple stuff on social media, everyone married is happy. Men know how everyone wants to project a great life to everyone online so its mostly BS. Anyhow, they say 50% of marriages end in divorce. How many of the remaining 50 married men are happy with their wives? I do not recall ever ANY man that has a better life being married. I believe a lot of us men (me included) think of all the great things marraige will bring, its ALL a lie.... Ive seen even RP guys turn BP after being in a LTR. LTR and marriage are a loosing battle, UNLESS, you can keep your game up 110% of the time. Im a stock trader and Im becoming better at it every month and seeing success. I can not say that about any women. LTR is the most difficult thing Ive ever been involved with. They change every 15 minutes and are so driven by anything but logic (emotions). This desire for women is a biological thing, and that has caused such a waste of time in my past. If you can bag a women and have some fun, great. Otherwise I think LTR are about the 2nd worst thing a man could do other than killing himself. Men NEED to be taught women's TRUE nature as soon as they can learn. Thank GOD for RP and MRP for waking me up. Now on my 2nd marriage and FINALLY discovered RP. I cant believe how much BS I bought into, its disgusting. Yes learning how to make a LTR work is most likely possible, I just think the effort is better put toward passions that have real value.
Cantahente 6y ago
Yeah man. Notice how the more successful you become financially the more subservient your wife will be. She wants to be on the winning team at all times. Hypergamous nature with them 24/7. You may be the best guy (in terms of genes and earning capability) she can get. You just hope she doesn't get fat and keeps giving you blow jobs on demand (hate to break it to you, but it's not gonna happen...as you're probably already realizing). And yes, women are all about drama and going bi polar on anything and everything.
They're always trying to stir up controversy, and when they're not happy it's up to you the man to fix it. They love blaming everything but themselves for every issue. Society brain washes then to do this as well, because any woman who beats herself up about shit is being "too hard" on herself. They prescribe them anti depression medication etc etc.
You're probably wondering what your best exit strategy is going to be now that you see all this under the red pill lens. Save up. Get a good lawyer that can help you protect your assets, and if you have kids get ready to have her use them and every thing else as collateral damage to get her way.
This may not even happen in two years. But you need to ask yourself if you want to be passive or pro active. I never met a guy who ended a divorce well by waiting for his wife to cheat or file for divorce first.
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Arroway2357 6y ago
"...society shame women for being sluts and congratulates men for being players..."
For fuck's sake, this shit is tired. Yeah, "slut" is a gendered slur. You can call a man a slut, but it doesn't carry the same weight. It's because the price women pay for promiscuity has always been higher: the biological investment in procreation is much bigger than what men invest, at least in pregnancy. They're also walking around with a Petri dish between their legs, and no, medical science can't just solve everything with a shot, a pill, or hose. And we've all covered the irrationality of women well enough to know that merely explaining this to them doesn't work. Shame does. Additionally, I see their "slut" and raise them "coward". That is the gendered slur men have to hear if their behavior falls short of expected norms: all a man has to do to avoid being called a coward is get punched first, get shot first, and never take a seat in a lifeboat.
All a woman has to do is keep her fucking legs closed.
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seands 6y ago
Basically the skill cap for having a good life is much higher for guys than girls.
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JamesSkepp 6y ago
You sound like a wonderful man to be around.
The bitterness, the resentment, the degrading language, all there. As usual.
Cantahente 6y ago
How many girls have you fucked/dated again? Now take that number and multiply it by 10,000. That's my number ;)
Fellas, if this sounds like me being "negative" just go back and use that 10,000 number as context to why I'm talking this way. I'm not here to sugar coat shit.
I think a lot of you guys are trying to rebrand the actual meaning of "red pill." I thought this was about being woke and waking others up.
Do most of you still think that women can actually be conditioned to suite your "needs"? Like you're actually trying to "find the one?" LOLOLOL. I may be Mgtow, but I certainly couldn't have gone MGTOW without being Red Pilled.
I used to think that I'd taken this route because of being around strippers for so long, but nope. I'd been thinking like this even before I got into PUA stuff (Like Middle school). The Mgtow/Red Pill movements only let me know that I wasn't alone in how I thought ;)
JamesSkepp 6y ago
MGTOW lecturing TRP what RP is. Or rather - lecturing TRP what he thinks RP should be.
You can't turn a dog into a human, no matter how much you condition him. Men who are actually RP do not try to make a woman into anything other than she already is, since they know it's simply impossible to achieve.
Sounds lie it was YOU who was looking for "the one" and when the fantasy turned out to be a lie, you got frustrated at women, b/c it's THEIR fault they are not like YOU imagined them to be.
Another classic MGTOW characteristic - blame shifting on women for being women. Like blaming a dog for being a dog that can bite. Learn to handle dogs properly.
Cantahente 6y ago
You keep thinking I have an issue with women. I don't. But it's because I finally understand their nature. I work with women every day. I just won't marry them or have them tell me what to do. I'll still fuck them and be friends with them. But don't get that confused with getting into a relationship with them. I don't have time for that.
Wasted energy is what I'm trying to warn others on here with what I've seen/been through. I'm still laughing that a lot of you are trying to act like Mgtow and Red Pill can be separate. Mgtow was never a movement. It's basically doing what ever the fuck you want to do with out anyone telling you what to do. Red Pill is understanding that. You can't be mgtow without being red pilled.
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JamesSkepp 6y ago
Actually your issue is not with women - it's with you. You came on TRP forum to "redpill" RP man that women are not the wonderful creatures.
I don't think this post was intended for us, b/c we already know this things to be true. I strongly suspect (by the "I'm so awesome I banged 10000 strippers" attitude, by degrading language that's supposed to make them worse and make you feel better, by the absurd statement that "you're dishing out RP truths" like it's the second coming) this post was intended for YOU, b/c you needed to vent your "MGTOW feelz" about women.
tallwheel 6y ago
MGTOW are often just TRP "graduates" who got their fill and have had enough with relationships - at least the good kind of MGTOW are (ie: the ones who aren't just incels calling themselves MGTOW just to make themselves feel better).
This guy sounds like he definitely arrived at MGTOW after living a very red-pilled life... filled with plenty of pussy.
JamesSkepp 6y ago
I'm always fascinated by the fact that majority of MGTOWs end up as resentful and bitter.
tallwheel 6y ago
Your impression may be different from mine, but I think those tend to be the younger incel types. The older guys who have been around pussy and have been MGTOW for a while seem to usually "end up" pretty happy with their lives from what I've seen.
PilledWhiteHat 6y ago
This... women are fun because they are a challenge. MGTOW is just an excuse
tallwheel 6y ago
I think once someone has fucked as many women as he claims to have, they are entitled to call themselves MGTOW without being accused of being just losers who are making excuses for themselves.
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
I somehow feel you, mate, but you must be really, and I mean, really new here.
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empatheticapathetic 6y ago
Don't mind ex addict bro. Treat the things he says like a shit test.
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shredzro 6y ago
I mean this is like saying since I dealt drugs all my life (until recently), all men deal drugs. No. All men have some type of ambition that drives them towards success but not every guy, even the ones growing up where I did, goes to dealing coke. Shit even some of the ones that were interested didn't.
You could blame that on influence but nowadays it's "cool," to be the plug and shit. Just like it's "cool," for a woman to be a slut now. That doesn't mean they would.
Yes every guy will become Fucking monsters for their ambition but some do control it because they know better. Same with women.
However, I don't believe in free will. I believe we are all blank sheets with nothing but our DNA in the beginning and the rest is influenced in our surroundings. That girl that's home at 8p.m isn't "naive," she might just not have interest. OP you've seen this shit for years so you probably overlooked the bored girls that took minimal interest or the actual faithful ones (whoa, I'm ready for the downvote by saying people can be faithful!)
"B-but AWALT."
Y'all gotta stop misinterpreting that shit. It doesn't mean all women will do it, it just means all women are CAPABLE of it. NOT EVERY GUN IS LOADED BUT YOU STILL TREAT EVERY GUN LIKE IT IS.
HandsomeCub 6y ago
I actually agree with everything you stated, especially the blank slate. Testosterone cant possibly do as much as redpill states. But im still convinced of redpill. You must be feeling irritated at the talk about monk mode and never marrying?
The possibility of cheating is not the only thing you need to worry about in marriage or LTRs, its the tip of the iceburg of AWALT. Most notably, an entitlement to men providing, manipulating you by acting weak, playing on your pride to get something, then treating your pride like its toxic, rarely comprimising because she's the queen, the list goes on. Spotting the manipulation tactics and calling them out just pisses them off, and you become an "asshole". Once you have realized you can recognize this in pretty much every woman, you lose the artificial respect you were trained to have. They are not men. Dont get me wrong, its possible for women to be different, but my experience and OP's and all redpillers have noticed the trend, against what most of us wanted to see. If you pay attention, you will notice it too. The question is, given AWALT, is the stress worth it?
Whoever gave you a gold star is retarded. Your comment wasnt that special.
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[deleted] 6y ago
Stop talking logic, remember where you are...
HandsomeCub 6y ago
Wtf, logic is why im here... WHY WE ARE ALL HERE on redpill. Why would you take a shit in a place that fostered your personal growth in sexuality.
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... Well i don't know what kind of kinks you have but for me, women foster my "personal growth" in sexuality
HandsomeCub 6y ago
Ok, props for making me laugh
goldaxis 6y ago
When I was working retail part time in high school, a young stripper briefly became my coworker. She had a bad attitude and always complained about how much less money she was making sorting shelves. She also had the delusion that as a stripper she was in control of the older men. It only took her a few weeks to convince herself to go back to stripping.
Cantahente 6y ago
Strippers are fucking parasites. Out of 20 strippers one or 2 will be good people who I give props and respect to. The rest are fucking idiots. Lazy, narcissistic cunts who are the very stereotype of what Mgtow and Red Pilled Men talk about. There's a reason why stereotypes exist...because it's usually true.
They all lie, and I'm talking deep down "it's your baby" type lies. Because of dealing with Strippers I will never trust a woman again. This goes beyond the "oh, you just haven't met the right girl yet...." No. I have. I've met them all. You can catch a girl being honest once in a while. But it's far and few. Strippers are the extreme caricature of what women are so good at hiding.
You can never count on a stripper. If she says she'll be there by 5:30, expect her to be 5 hours late if she even shows up at that. They only jump when money is involved. And they'll complain about everything. They love playing the victim, and being in control of anything that has a dick. It's about them first and no one else later.
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Cantahente 6y ago
As long as he stays over there with her he should be good. But if he brought her back to the states, she probably already divorced him and took him for half his shit. The only way that shit works is if you keep them in their environment they were born in. They come to the states and instantly get brainwashed. "Gimmee Gimmee Gimmee...me me me...."
Darth_Antonius 6y ago
A lot of guys fall into the trap of trying to make sense of women's actions. They make the mistake of trying to see women's actions as having some sort of logic and reasoning behind it. The truth is, women don't think, they feel. Their actions are dictated by their current emotional state rather than logic and reasoning. Something a mentor of mine once told me helped to put this in a more simple perspective. Take everything a woman says, then add the words "right now" at the end. They are like children in that way. Their emotional states are fickle and their actions equally so as a result.
tolerantman 6y ago
Women are predictable, they care about looks, status and money, that's about it. The difference between women and men is that women are a lot pickier and consider all sorts of stupid shit when finding a mate.
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They make perfect sense in an evolutionary context. In fact you can predict their behavior if you always keep that frame in mind.
J_AsapGem 6y ago
this was been said a shit ton, people keep forgetting.
Praecipuus 6y ago
Well then there's your logic and reasoning, right there.
sigma272 6y ago
I've found that women are actually really predictable. They are driven by 2 primary desires:
Once you swallow the red pill, women and their actions are pretty easy to understand. The "women are so confusing lol" is an absolute beta meme.
warthundersfw 6y ago
What is meant by winning at social interactions?
sigma272 6y ago
Winning any argument, using tragedy to gain "good person points", extracting validation wherever possible, never being at fault for anything, etc.
TheSelfGoverned 6y ago
Being showered in compliments/attention, AKA being an alpha female also applies.
MLG_Arcane 6y ago
I swear reddit logic is 'Hahaha xd girls are hard to understand right guys? xdxd who understands girls, 25 y/o kissless virgin btw'
tenxs 6y ago
Non-native speaker here, what do you mean with "tingles" ?
Absolutely agree that women are very easy to understand once you realize that they live and die by emotions. Only takes a bit of empathy.
SovereignSoul76 6y ago
Tingles = Emotions (specifically ones resulting in arousal/sexual excitement)
dongpal 6y ago
when a women is horny her pussy prickles/tingles.
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imElnumerouno 6y ago
This NOFAP BS again?! This is a old religious move being repackaged and a bunch men looking for anything to point the finger at as to why their life isn't what they want buy into it. I feel bad for people believing this. Ive been jackin' mad! for years and never a t issue. And not 1 study can prove otherwise.
S-Blaze 6y ago
Technically it doesn't drain your T but the other hormones released interfere with the T receptors apparently.
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At 40 years old you're going to have 50% of your peak testosterone and by 65 the average woman will have more testosterone in her body than you.
You sure you got the science right on that one champ?
logicalthinker1 6y ago
This is not accurate science
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ioncehadsexinapool 6y ago
There are so many things wrong with this comment
1UPZ_ 6y ago
what?
lol, testosterone is not lost during ejaculation.... there wouldnt be any muscular guys if thats the case... all drained out during the teen years and until they're 80.
[deleted] 6y ago
excessive masturbation lowers you testosterone, end of story.
SovereignSoul76 6y ago
Wait, but.....oh, you said 'end of story'. Nevermind.
kevincash158 6y ago
I loke the Idea of nofap...
But no.
Testosterone is release through urine.
And this is broscience.
wanderer779 6y ago
Testosterone is in your earwax. That's why high t guys have such frame, they can't even hear what the fuck you are saying.
clavabot 6y ago
I had a good laugh at this one
JvSOUL 6y ago
Lmao this has laughing like an idiot
Hugh_Munghous 6y ago
The Virgin Epirical Test vs. The Chad Anecdote.
That’s why drink your own pee at least once a day bro. Capture that test you would normally be losing. Old bodybuilding trick.
imElnumerouno 6y ago
drinking your semen works also...
JamesSkepp 6y ago
What does not make sense exactly?
I felt no pain and no misery as PUA, I feel no misery as RP either.
This is why I dislike MGTOWs. Little hurt boys crying their eyes out b/c "women can hurt men" or "I wasted so much time on women" or, which is the most absurd - "they are all like that". I've yet to read something that doesn't smell like "negative/hurt-feelz life story" from MGTOW.
Would you like an upvote to feel better?
ex_addict_bro 6y ago
I think the whole deal is we forget sex has a point, sex happens for a reason. If you cut out the conception out of sex, you loose the whole sense of it and of many things connected to it. I remember watching some amateur threesome porn once, my though was "my god, this woman wants to be impregnated badly, so badly she fucks two different men, not one". This makes sense. If you forget about it, it stops making sense. Just my .25.
Cantahente 6y ago
Wow, for a second there I thought you were going to ask "Who hurt you..." or "You just haven't met the right girl yet..."
Cucks come in all shapes and mindsets. I'm talking about you buddy ;)
The day you think you have women under control only means you're being controlled by one of them or all of them. Guys like you just can't seem to admit it.
You think I'm writing this to cry about my mistakes in life? The amount of men on Reddit who've literally lost it all via divorce or other dumb shit they let a woman fool them into. The amount of men I personally know (family members, good friends etc.) who've gone through hell because of women.
Like I said before, even a guy like me who's been extra careful; never been cheated on....I chose to leave every relationship I was in...had some close calls but nothing like the shit a lot guys are going through right now. Guys are getting falsely accused left and right...for simply acting like a man.... and it's basically them having to prove their innocence solely on the woman's word.
I come across guys like you all the time. You're so gassed up only caring about putting numbers on the board thinking that positivism is the answer to all your problems. LOL. There's no difference between you and those idiots with that "pussy is pussy" mentality.
The only reason guys like you are even hanging out in the "red pill" sub is to learn more techniques on how to have that proper "frame" for the when the "right" pussy does come along....so you can know what to do...blah blah blah.
Guess what. There will never ever be the "right" pussy. Hate to burst your bubble. But this is a red pill sub, so take these red pills I'm dishing your way....and get triggered....or just get fucked ;)
Darth_Antonius 6y ago
I'm getting a sense that tells me that you think women are the problem. Women are the same now as they've always been throughout human history. The only difference is that today's society encourages hypergamous behavior rather than discourage it like the patriarchal societies of old. Women today are simply reacting to their environment and using the current gynocentric laws to their advantage. Men should respond by not getting married and not getting women pregnant. For as much as I believe you are wrong on, you at least seem to have that part right.
JamesSkepp 6y ago
You mistook me for someone who want's to have "control" over women. Another sign of MGTOW - weak frame projected as "I need to control them b/c I'm afraid I'm gonna get hurt". The only person you're able to fully control is you.
You mistook me for someone who is looking for the "right pussy".
I believe the meme goes like this: "Look out guys, sounds like we have a badass over here".
You're jaded. Either deal with that or keep it to yourself. Nothing you wrote here so far moves anything forward for anyone, b/c all you wrote amounts to "I wasted too much time on that lying whores". Perhaps you did, perhaps you just didn't deal with anger phase, perhaps you're just too weak to live in a world that is unpredictable and you have to be prepared to deal with stuff that is thrown your way (hence the need to "control" when you are not prepared) - regardless, ultimately, nobody here gives a flying fuck about your hurt feelz, we're grown men, not pajama party girls crying their eyes out over their exes and the Wall approaching.
Disciple_of_Libertas 6y ago
I actually liked this guy's post until a saw what a faggot he was being in the comments (and the part about "understanding women and it's futility"). Jesus Christ.
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I'm bouncing between the TRP/MGTOW divide and i can say, not all MGTOW's are LHB's (Little Hurt Boys). I can tell you it's not due to fear or pain, it's just women seem to lack a fun personality. Dealing with them can be like leading a child around, who is prone to temper tantrums and pussy was oversold, it's nowhere near as good as it's marketed
Thotwrecker 6y ago
Not all MGTOWs are LHBs. But the ones who aren't typically aren't the ones talking about how they are swearing off women and GTOW because "women cause pain and misery and you can't figure them out."
There are two types of MGTOWs. The first type has fully handed women and understands how to attract them, how to manipulate them, how to manage them, how to insulate himself from the damage they can do, how to spin them, etc. And has consciously decided after doing that with TONS of women that he can say for sure he's over it.
This is the 1% of MGTOWs. The rest are basically just incels who have found a term that helps that feel superior and cool about themselves. Shit, it even sounds cool - men going their own way. In reality, what do you think these guys are actually doing? They are more like the herbivore men of Japan (after all those were the OG MGTOWs) and they still want women. They want it very badly, they are just hamstering loudly for the internet to hear and hoping to find like-minded men to enter "I'll scratch your delusions if you scratch mine" clauses.
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That's an entirely fair point, and i admit, MGTOW sub became so cancerous, a bunch of guys who knew this, fucked off and made a MGTOW 2.0 sub.
It's merely the issue of collectivism once again. Basement creatures using the MGTOW label, hating women with a passion (Which has now got me questioning, if they hate women, who/what is the star of their porn?) getting lumped in with the guys who simply find women boring or can spot the hypergamy machine in a woman's brain grinding away and saying to his self "Go fuck yourself" (Or out loud for extra "Alpha" cred).
Some MGTOW's are just bored basically is my point
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8n0n 6y ago
I'd like to think it is a mix between anger phase and monk mode. Some on the MGTOW stage may later progress to various stages of TRP, probably as a side effect of gaining interest from women if they followed a self improvement lifestyle for themselves.
I have too much of a positive mindset these days to be angry at women; maybe later down the line if I do something stupid (not marriage, I ain't that naive) the anger will return.
Practically the same feeling I had last night talking to one. After a few weeks of chatting with fellow men (friends, lecturers and burying myself into course assessments) I am currently used to conversations having a little give and take (or musically: call and response).
With that mindset in place; talking to a woman beyond my usual day to day grind had a very sharp contrast. Simply the feeling was like I was talking to a sponge, vacuuming/soaking information out of me yet I had to figuratively squeeze it hard to get a response (short, concise, not divisive, all about 'me' and practically impossible to extend to a practical conversation).
I've had that same experience platonic-ally regardless of any woman's interest in me (the less attractive they are, their IOIs become more obvious), though the more interested they are the warmer and more inviting their demeanor becomes (feels like I have a cheat sheet when that happens).
But coming back to your post, regardless of the above it is always the same. We have to lead the conversation, try to make it fun and be the great entertainer (good thing I took up music).
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tallwheel 6y ago
The coolest MGTOW I know took the opposite path. They started as RP, fucking lots of women, got older and tired of it, and now identify more as MGTOW.
You're right, though, that the worst kind of MGTOW are the ones who started with MGTOW or incel before finding the RP material.
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Honestly, never understood "Anger Phase" unless you are a divorced guy who has just been put through the ringer. Anybody under 25 who hasn't truly suffered at the hands of a woman has no right to be angry, simply be thankful for the information.
And to your final point due to being an entertainer, well apparently, TRP has worked too well on me because i have a lacking desire to entertain for a mere pussy pass. Unless the woman's nationality is foreign, i'm attempting a "Fuck Across The Globe" challenge. Should be interesting to try and fuck a Saudi girl :P
8n0n 6y ago
I just think about the friends I've lost, some alive but given how changes they are from that ringer practically dead. Occasionally I get bouts of anger thinking about the damage it has done to them, men that didn't deserve what they put up with now.
I don't reach out to them because alcoholism is a common trend, I'm not standing by to watch them slowly die, but these are men I could have had lifelong friendships with (I only have a handful left of them, new friends yes but old friends are equally vital IMO).
My choice of being an entertainer is for myself (I didn't choose it for women, probably easier ways for that than to 'strangle my strat'), I do take the occasional short detour (all work, no play) but ultimately I play because I enjoy it. Hard work, lots of theory, but it is a whole lot of fun when I get a good day of solid playing under me.
I wish you well on your global tour, a fat wallet (no kids) and a clean bill of health at the end of it (STD/STI/whatever they call it now).
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[deleted] 6y ago
"Nowhere near as good as its marketed is true."
But women are wonderful playthings for the right man. The kind of man who can't easily be manipulated and isnt afraid of rejection because he self generates happiness and confidence
That man is almost never the crybaby quilter called MGTOW.
[deleted] 6y ago
Hence why i said bouncing between. And the ol' "can't live with/without them" issue keeps popping up.
I guess my problem is merely finding a girl who can hold my attention beyond a couple of months. NGL, plating is great for finding out
[deleted] 6y ago
Best judge of an LTR worthy girl (if that's your thing) isnt holding your interest level as much as how well she treats you and how long and hard does she cling to you, dying for that commitment.
Don't make a relationship the end goal. That's her job. Your job is to plan fun things that you want to do and invite her
[deleted] 6y ago
That's where i'm broken. I've had those, multiple times and being "idolised", waited on hand and foot, having girls drop plans at the drop of a hat for me, well it gets boring quickly
[deleted] 6y ago
That isnt a problem. It just doesn't fit the role society has for you
Plowhorse husband and father to be cucked and used
[deleted] 6y ago
Well thank you. The best compliment i recently got was "You aren't relationship material", whilst the girl was getting undressed. I actually thanked TRP in my head at that moment :P
[deleted] 6y ago
Congrats. You are her AlphaFux
[deleted] 6y ago
I was using Human Dildo but cheers
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Why is this guy TRP endorsed?
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 6y ago
I got heavily downvoted for my MGTOW post last week, but posts like this prove me absolutely right. MGTOW are just bitter losers who cheerlead the fact they are incel.
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victor_knight 6y ago
You should realize that the reality is that NOBODY gives a flying fuck if you want nothing to do with women anymore. In their minds, it's YOUR LOSS. Take your DNA to your grave. Never enjoy the feel of soft pink flesh on your dick again or oiled tits on your back. Unless of course, you're Leonardo DiCaprio or something. Then people might give a shit. But on a personal level, going monk can be good for you.
Cantahente 6y ago
Going your own way, whether monk or not, IS good for you. For once you're putting yourself yourself first in any and all future decisions. Why men are putting up with women who could give zero fucks about you... Simply because they want pussy, is hilarious to me. Its the very essence of what Red Pill rage is. When you find out that they've been conditioning you via social programming since an early age.
Do you know how women really feel about you? Do you understand that they can never love the way men love because of their hypergamous nature? These are red pill questions that most men avoid their ENTIRE lives. These same guys have been divorced two or three times. They have kids with different women who they play child support to. And yet they still think there's that "special lady" out there. "I just needed to keep looking..." Lololololol. It's a fucking sham.
victor_knight 6y ago
I agree. That's why I set up the "GenuineMGTOW" subreddit. I don't care for female validation, but I still like the feel of soft pink flesh on my dick and oily tits on my back every now and then. I just don't commit to her in any way after that. So personally MGTOW is for me but not "monkhood". I also don't make the mistake of assuming anyone (men or women) give a shit about MGTOW unless said MGTOW is an extremely high value male.
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Bear-With-Bit 6y ago
Naw, bruh. It's you that doesn't make sense.
Cantahente 6y ago
They aren't supposed to make sense is what I'm getting at. Understanding their nature. Hypergamy is why a woman will never be able to love like a man does. Once you understand that, you'll see why it is they have zero issues Monkey Branching onto the next guy.
That right there sir is called a Red Pill. Take it gladly ;)
oldslut 6y ago
yes, awalt but strippers are damaged goods. it seems like you got your heart ripped out by a pro, and now went all mgtow. now you're in the anger phase, and hate all women, as it sounds to me. but what do i know... well, yeah, i know "awalt", but strippers are right up there with prostitutes (and some are one and the same) and you don't marry a hoe and try to make her a housewife... just sayin'
Cantahente 6y ago
Nah, every actual "relationship" I've ever had, I ended. I'm sure feminazi cunts will take that out of context and try to say that I had "commitment issues" but nope, every chick I got with...they all changed into the same evil and selfish cunts, no matter what their back ground was. They simply did it at different times. Some revealed that "crazy" sooner than others....but make no mistake that Hypergamous nature popped it's head up eventually which is when I said Peace Out
oldslut 6y ago
technically, if her hypergamy showed itself, then you didn't necessarily end the relationship. more so, she was in the process of a branch swing, and you bailed... just sayin
Cantahente 6y ago
Perhaps. I wouldn't know. What I did know was that they were trying to get me to do something I did not want to do. It could have been something as simple as them getting mad that I didn't call them at a certain time or not wanting to give me a massage when I asked for one. That's when I usually peace out.
It is true that women always have spare dicks in a jar at all times. But it's because of their Hypergamous nature to want to always be looking for something Better. This is why they cannot love the way a man loves. Or even a dog for that matter. Unconditional love is something a woman will never understand....because of hypergamy.
Edit: If you actually understood hypergamy, you would never get married, or even think marriage would be possible without you having to be miserable. You've got millions and millions of men being divorced, cheated on.....and yet you still think that you're smarter than all those millions of men? Learn from their disasters. Don't do it lol
nopiller 6y ago
Wtf dude? go to massage parlor if you want to be massaged at your convenience.
You want a sex mommy doll and just realize that girl is just as human as you and me.
Go away please. Your insecure little creep
Cantahente 6y ago
Yet another insecure female trolling the Red Pill sub. Can't get enough attention in real life that you have to be on here trolling my post? Do you even know how to add anything interesting to a conversation or do you only go around acting 'offended' at everything you don't agree with. Get fucked. You wouldn't be able to hold court in an actual debate no matter how many censorship laws were in your favor.
nopiller 6y ago
Go MGTOW please. You are preaching like an insecure creep so everyone want to go MGTOW with you since you are alone over there. How's masturbating alone feels like lately? What's your record?
Cantahente 6y ago
Oh, I'm already Mgtow and there's nothing you can do about it. Thanks to the Red Pill baby.
What you're actually trying to say by your tone is "Please don't share this information with anyone....stay quiet and stop trying to ruin it for all the dumb cunts like myself who still need to men to do their bidding for them..."
A big part of being MGTOW is knowing how/when to tell people to go fuck themselves. Like right now ;)
oldslut 6y ago
for me, that would be a time to hold frame, say no and ignore them--not necessarily throw them out for acting like a woman
Cantahente 6y ago
My frame is always that of ABUNDANCE. "Insert quote from the movie Heat" etc. etc. etc. This gynocentric society has women constantly trying to test men because they know they can get away with it. Women have no agency. Its in their nature to not want to be held accountable for anything, hence why they are masters at playing the victim.
My tolerance for any bullshit, even back then when I was in relationships was zero. I always told them where the door if they had a problem with anything. Plain and simple.