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Forums.Red / WhereAreAllTheGoodMen / The Big Question

Weekend version of "The Big Question" that's actually more of "The Big Statement": there are no good single men left!
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Typo-MAGAshiv

Posted 1w ago in The Big Question - Permalink - 7.8K Views



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PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago Stickied

I think it's time we coin a neat little phrase for this. I'm gonna go with "hidden standards". Women always use language to make themselves seem more reasonable than they actually are. That's why they ask "where are the good men?" which is worded to make it sound like the only thing they're asking for in a man is that he simply be "good" - that their choosing criteria is so humble that it's based solely on the quality of a man's character and nothing else. As men who have lived a life, we all know that this is bullshit. Put this statement under a little bit of scrutiny, and the hidden requirements start coming out of the woodwork.

What does a man's height, or physical attractiveness, or propensity to pay lots of money on a first date have to do with how "good" he is? Present the women who ask "WATGM?" with a man who's only quality is that he's "good", and nothing else, and she'll certainly have a litany of "red flags/icks" (ie; hidden requirements) that magically appear out of nowhere right after she claimed that all she wanted was a man who was "good" or "marriageable".

These statements are loaded in women's favor. They're basically humble-brags that scream "I'm only single because I'm such a virtuous person that I can't find a man to match my virtue." Thank God we have tons of receipts via women's own social media footprint that guarantee virtually no men today actually believe this.

You claim your only requirement is that a man be "good" sweetheart? Hey, why don't you try being nice and talkative to that guy at the office who's a little shy and dorky, but treats people respectfully? How about that clean cut guy fixing his driveway who doesn't have tattoos or an attitude who you just run past without making eye contact on your morning jog on the weekends? We know why. It's because you have hidden standards that, if said out loud, will betray how shallow you are.

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JudgeSmales 5d ago

"Where are all the good men? No, no, not THOSE good men. I mean the tall, rich, handsome, doesn't-already-have-kids men."

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Mountainman 5d ago

Bruh that’s such tired cope. Women don’t give a fuck about tall and handsome. It’s about attitude and congruence. Look the fuck around and find me a hot woman with a solid looking dude who’s successful..you can’t.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago

Good shit. Stickied.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

We know why. It's because you have hidden standards that, if said out loud, will betray how shallow you are.

Exactly. World is flooded with decent men who are single. If a woman, who by definition was born with one of the most powerful negotiating tools known to humanity (a vagina) can't find a partner....they're fucking up, massively.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago

Was she trying to find and lock down a good man when she was still in college like women used to do decades ago, I bet the answer was "NO!" as she was too busy "living her best life" which is code for banging bad boys.

She could check her friendzone, but as she is in her 30s now, the odds are, even the men in her friendzone would have dropped out for whatever reason (found someone else, got red-pilled or even just lost attraction to her).

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago

even just lost attraction to her

QFT. There's women I know that back in their 20's who were quite fuckable. Fast forward a decade or more and now I wouldn't touch them using another man's dick. Bad habits/choices caught up with their physical appearances big time. And the kind of persons they turned out to be definitely did not compensate for the ravages of time either.

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 6d ago

Yes its hidden standards.

She's also fat.

I know this because when women talk like this and they are not fat they will proclaim loud and clear how they are "not fat" and "slim and active" and "physically fit".

As always with women talking online: WHICH woman is doing the talking. I want to see pics. Pics usually explain 99% of the problem.

There's a reason she's saying this online rather than to her friends. Her friends know the deal. Online she can hide how fat she is and get everyone to agree that it's men's fault for... err.... not being single enough.

It's because you have hidden standards that, if said out loud, will betray how shallow you are.

It's partly this.

The other half is how women go about dating. It's all lies, mistruths, passive behaviour, immaturity and demands that she be provided for, treated right, "no games", all while she engages in endless manipulations and complaints.

We've all dated. We know how much bullshit and obfuscation there is. We know how women operate. This woman can try all she likes to appear virtuous, but she's just the same as all the rest.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 6d ago

I know this because when women talk like this and they are not fat they will proclaim loud and clear how they are "not fat" and "slim and active" and "physically fit".

Related: any profile pics where they do not show their body from the side or collarbones or they only have neck up pics or the infamous "Myspace angle" = FAT.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5d ago

Flashback to the time I got MySpace angled before there was a MySpace.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Good find! So much to unpack. This one is almost an educational tool to illustrate to young women how NOT to wind up a bitter inspin at the relatively young age of 32.

Let’s start with she hasn’t “found” the right man. What she means is she wants one to ride up on a white horse or “court” her. She can’t imagine doing the “bare minimum” and going up to a man she finds desirable, who “meets her standards” and risk rejection. So she sat around “finding” a man until she hit her “best sell by” date at 29 and then after 3 years, loses patience and shows her inner-inner self: Men are sub-humans who didn’t please her and she’s not happy about it.

Does anyone here who understands how this woman thinks find her desirable as a person aside from her (aging) sexuality? Would you want to be around her for the rest of your life much less even dinner date?

She claims to be “normal” and reasonable and merely asks for men to do the “bare minimum”. In some cases, this has truly meant that if a man dressed up nice, bought her that precious 3 (or 5) dinner dates, and avoided any of her red flags or shit tests, they might get some transactional sex, and if they’re lucky, marry her and have kids and perhaps roll the dice that 50:50 she won’t trash the marriage for the fun of it. Any takers?

I know guys who got this deal with women like this back in the 1980’s. Some got lucky, some didn’t.

But in this modern era, it truly is unlikely that a woman like this would wind up an inspin at 32 unless something was really wrong with her due to the dating apps utterly insanely low standards for women to get that deal. Even Pig Woman could get decent looking men buying her dinner.

Finally, her rant illustrates her entitlement further and this is perhaps most important: She stomped her widdle feet and men didn’t perform as she demanded so she wants all women to go onto inspin island with her. She wants to drag them down with her.

Ok, not finally: She mentions the 1940’s. Back then, men paid for dates, approached, and so on like this woman no doubt desires but she says it’s not the 1940’s anymore. Indeed, she doesn’t respect men of that era, or now, but wants the benefits of it.

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user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 5d ago

I've been single for three years and haven't found a single man that meets my standards.

Oh no!

I'm 32

That explains it.

Interestingly, 32 minus 3 means her problems began when she was 29.

I believe Jordan Peterson said it, and it's been said here too: love and romance are for the young.

Something happens as humans get older and more experienced. If you're paying attention, you pick up on patterns and see where situations are leading to - a greater ability to predict outcomes. I'm rarely surprised by a movie plot anymore.

It's really not that hard to court a woman. [...] to show basic respect. [...] to provide the bare minimum.

"hard"? I don't think it is difficult. I think it's just not worth it. It's just that markets have changed - she's changed; the men have changed; the environment has changed too. Most men are simply performing a cost/benefit analysis - a simple pros and cons list. Conclusion: no thank you.

The internet has really changed the market too. I'm not referring to dating apps and social media specifically. I'm referring to the abundance of information available to men and pure direct evidence of woman's behaviors. I remember the first time I heard Kevin Samuels explain SIGN language. Shaming, Insults, Guilt, and Need to be right. This brought back years of misery living with my ex-wife. She never apologized for anything and constantly shit tested me. The trope that women refuse to be held accountable can be seem in 1080p via thousands of videos of police interactions, not to mention female violence and what they say directly from their mouths.

No thank you.

Now I just look forward to spending some time camping on a property I bought when it gets colder.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago

The internet has really changed the market too. I'm not referring to dating apps and social media specifically. I'm referring to the abundance of information available to men and pure direct evidence of woman's behaviors. I remember the first time I heard Kevin Samuels explain SIGN language. Shaming, Insults, Guilt, and Need to be right. This brought back years of misery living with my ex-wife. She never apologized for anything and constantly shit tested me. The trope that women refuse to be held accountable can be seem in 1080p via thousands of videos of police interactions, not to mention female violence and what they say directly from their mouths.

Indeed, while the internet gets lamented for effectively adding NOS to female hypergamy and other behaviors that are maladaptive when taken to an extreme without a limiting factor, it also made it so very easy to see what women are actually like because they can't help but tell on themselves nonstop. Which the internet gives them unlimited opportunities to do that too.

So while some may bemoan lowered birth rates and demographic collapse, I see it as women finally getting some form of sexual selection pressure put upon them outside of bare minimum survival scenarios that most will never encounter even in 3rd world countries.

A fertile woman in most societies has a default chance of reproducing handed to her of around 80% just for existing, and will be prioritized for survival in times of famine or war.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1w ago

Weekend content because she isn't seeking commitment, but rather has given up.

I don't care what ChatGPT tells me

Anyone who goes to AI to answer questions beyond basic research, ie surrendering his or her thinking to the machines, doesn't deserve to be taken seriously about anything.

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PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

"Dear ChatGPT, why am I single?" Lol

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 6d ago

ChatGPT: *Plays the music to Black Sabbath: Paranoid* "I could not fuck the fat bitch, 'cause I can't fit in between her thighs..."

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throwaway415 1w ago

the irony of a self created incel woman who has ruined her own dating life with unrealistic standards and wasted her youth riding the carousel calling dudes who want nothing to do with her stanky roast beef self created incels

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hhhhdmt 1w ago

I can't find a young Cindy Crawford look a like with natural double d tits and a low body count. There are no good women left! Unfair.

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JudgeSmales 1w ago

Her: "It's not hard to provide the bare minimum."

Me: "OK, how about we meet for coffee to discuss this further?"

Her: "I don't do coffee dates. I didn't mean THAT kind of bare minimum."

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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1w ago

Juice and squeeze, That's all it comes down to. Men love sex, will do more for it than just about anything else on earth but the juice has to be worth the squeeze.

I am sure the lady is right. There are no single men who are good enough for her left ...who also think that life with her is worth the squeeze.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1w ago

She's correct, just not in the exact way she thinks.

There are no more good men left for her.

Because she's 32 with unspoken standards that probably would be hard to get met even if she were 22. She's just not saying them because she damn well knows they would make her sound bad.

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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.

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Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.

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Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.

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