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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago Stickied
OP @ballsofsteel (and everyone else):
This is weekend content. During weekdays, we normally want strict adherence to rule 5:
The particular woman in the OP isn't (explicitly) seeking commitment, so she doesn't fit that rule.
See the flair guide at the following links: New Carols Unlocked!, and the original on reddit for more info on strict weekday vs loose weekend.
However, I'll leave this up because a) this is a holiday week (Labor Day), and b) it's funny, and c) I'm feeling generous with my mod discretion.
Do try to keep weekend content to the weekend in the future.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
The "epidemic of shitty men" is a product of the fact that women are not worth the long term investment these days. Be worth more and you will get more.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
I guarantee her phone is loaded with guys with whom she has a boyfriend, a situationship, guys that she's talking to, and an ex that she's still talking to.
Rules for thee but not for me. Get the fuck outta here, you shitty ass bitch.
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 2d ago
The more patronising they sound the more stupid their point is.
PoopBeast Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago
Poor girl. The ONLY guys who exist on this planet that she could possibly date are ones who just happen to be juggling multiple women.
It's kind of like how the only men that exist happen to all be "narcissists".
Someone needs to get to the bottom of these phenomenon right away.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
Maybe only the players are still available while the good guys have dropped out cos it ain't worth looking in the West anymore, or she doesn't know that men's red flags should be a sign to look elsewhere.
hhhhdmt 4d ago
Future cat lady extraordinaire
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
There is no standard now. Feminists were so concerned with bucking traditional norms that they inadvertently demolished the entire structure.
So yes, you have to ask about everything. But also there's no expectation of honesty. Why shouldn't Chad just flat out lie to you? You reward him with sex, and so do a hundred other girls, so why would he stop?
And if you're honest with yourself, you never minded Chad being shared with all those other girls, as long as you got a piece of his attention. You wanted what other women wanted, and you got him. Why the long face now? Could it have something to do with the fact that Chad's resources are spread a little thin? Those Billy Betas in your friend zone not looking so hot either? Maybe Chad isn't quite as easy to get as he was in your 20s? Oh you poor dear.
We're all free now. You wanted to get rid of the social norms that protected your sex. Now they are gone, and you feel more depressed, unsafe, and lonely than ever before. You don't think of the good of the men you sleep with; it's all about you getting your needs met. But you can't abolish the ancient and deeper laws of human nature. It's still more blessed to give than to receive, but you will never understand this in regards to a man.
GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
"We're all free now" - well said, indeed we have been freed. But as you state, free from any kind of moral constraints means any civilization experiencing this without correction fails.
I'm an optimist, so I'd like to think Gen Alpha is seeing everything develop with a certain horror and will steer the ship back into the middle of the channel, but not without some turmoil along the way.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
I'm an optimist too, in the ultimate/eternal sense. But no civilization has ever survived long after certain moral/social standards are lost. I believe the US as it exists today will not last past the kids growing up now. We are overdue for the chopping block. So I agree with you, but I think the turmoil you speak of will be much worse than a mere adjustment.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
We might be on the cusp of an American Renaissance. We'll see.
hhhhdmt 3d ago
well said. couldn't have worded it better myself.
JudgeSmales 3d ago
"As insane amount of men, messaging me, taking me out on dates ..."
Sounds like she was more interested in humble bragging about how popular she is, but it's somehow men's fault that she can't seem to lock any of them down.
wswZtyqNGQ 3d ago
"I have so many pitchers throwing fastballs down the middle, but I haven't hit a home run yet! Why do the pitchers suck so much?"
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago
This is the ole Red Pill axiom that women would rather share an Alpha then have a Beta all to herself. In other words, women would rather share a hot rich man with high social status, who cheats and has other female interest, than be saddled with an average looking faithful man who sticks by her and never cheats and has no other female interest.
What usually happens is FWB relationships where the woman has one FWB but the man has two or three. It's a "soft harem" rather than open polyamory. Arousal is Alpha traits. This piques a woman's sexuality. That is masculine good looks, great physical shape with the personality traits associated with the badboy archetype. Typically this is overconfidence, cockiness and his self as his mental point of origin. The good looks signal his genetic quality and his arrogance is signaling historical success and historical competence. This is just as naturally arousing to a woman as a slim 21yo with big tits is for a man. Women can’t help it, which is why Rollo says "desire can't be negotiated" and David DeAngelo says "attraction isn't a choice" (he's actually referring to arousal here). This is all happening in the lizard-brain. Guys deep enough into the alpha (arousal) spectrum will turn women sexually aggressive. A man hitting arousal cues will get her breaking her own rules and standards because this will be the sex she really wants. Women will get genuinely shocked at their own slutty behavior, even verbally say things like she can’t believe she’s doing this / just done this. If you're getting intimate with her and you’re the first guy hitting the alpha cues right, she will be willing to try [X Y Z] with you that she hasn't done with past boyfriends. You'll know this because she's going to be warning you she hasn't done it before and when you ask why not she'll say she doesn’t know and didn't feel like doing it before. She’s not lying, the previous guys hadn’t been hitting the arousal cues to pique her sexuality.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
Except of course for the times that she is, because the "sling some ass at Chad" strategy has failed for her enough times for her to realize that Chad absolutely will not wife up a woman that has been a confirmed slut for other men. Chad wasn't going to wife her up either way, but women of course lie to themselves first in preparation to lie to men.
It's the woman version of "Magic Pussy Passwords" that we yell at people for asking for. Just Lie and that Hawt Guy With Tons of Experience With Women totally won't catch on! Tee-hee!
wswZtyqNGQ 3d ago
Thank you. This is the exact reason why these same women are unworthy of commitment. After all, if they break their own rules for you then they will break them for somebody else. So women who can be gamed are good for short-term entertainment but can't be trusted at all.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago
Same reason I counsel against going after married/"taken" women despite one of the core lessons of TRP being that TRP is amoral.
If she'll throw away her standards for you, whatever they happen to be or why, she'll do the same for someone else eventually.
Trusting a woman despite that clear lesson is how a lot of men in the past have ended up lynched.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3d ago
I have a more simple theory than, IMO, crude socio-biological reasoning: Modern women have a pathological attitude towards sex and are conditioned to find men, overall, revolting and sub-human as well as lacking personal agency against their choices “It’s not my fault I feel this way or do this thing!!!”
Consider men, for example, who might see a potential girlfriend whose a bit fat but he’ll look for other reasons to want her in his life. This actually was the originally notion of romance when women were expected to “look past his flaws” because he was a ‘nice guy’. BP thinking is men failing to realize times have changed.
“Chivalry” evolved from a military code of conduct, to a rationalization of the privileged, “genteel” class, and eventually a notion of feminine entitlement. Combined with a modern normalized and even mandatory prostitution, (gold diggers, meal whoring, men “making effort”), women are conditioned to be either sexually ambivalent about men to “get” something for sex OR to slut it up if the guy is “hot” or “fun”.
It’s funny that modern women will feel bad if she gets attracted to a “nice”, “normal” guy. This is a sexual pathology. In a pathological society, men learn game to simulate pathological behavior. Note the prevalence of face piercings. Men are even largely pathological towards each other as our society regards us as disposable “economic viable units” and western society loathes itself aside from GDP/capita.
This notion that women “can’t fake attraction” is laughable. Professional prostitutes are able to sleep with dozens of men a day and act like they enjoy it, yes? It’s men who literally cannot perform unless we can stimulate arousal. Even if Rosie O’Donnell pays you a million dollars to do her, you can’t collect that million unless you can get a boner. For women to say such a thing indicates they aren’t “lizard brain” but rather cognitive dysfunction. Turn this around: If a plain looking rich woman wanted to set me up for life but I had to perform in bed, but I couldn’t because I wasn’t “aroused” enough, I’d consider that a sexual dysfunction, not lizard brain.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2d ago
Who the hell says that?!
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
It's not about faking attraction. It's about genuine lizard brain lust and desire. As another RP saying goes: "You cant negotiate genuine desire." Of course women will lie and act and chameleon to get what they want and I propose that very few of them get caught because women are that good at it. They will fuck that geek Bill Gates and act like the biggest lust filled slut. That ties into their survival instinctive need for protection and resources. I have contended that AF and BB are different sides of the same coin and to a women, one is just as important as the other. Most men on RP sites focus on the RP and sex part and I say what good is fucking Chad if you are homeless and starving? So of course women can fake it to make it. But a a naked girl on her own free will spins around ant tells you to pull her hair and slap her ass and you just met on vacation?... that is straight from her subconscious lizard brain.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago
I like this theory, and it matches one of my own. I've said before that a good wife must see her husband as both AF and BB. A woman with previous sexual experience finds this nearly impossible, but it is definitely possible for a virgin, even if the man is not Chad.
In an attempt to join these theories into one master equation to rule them all, I'd say a woman who actually looks to one man for both (meaning, trains herself to not see other men as options) may find herself attracted to different qualities/parts/features on different days, but the end result is the same. You cannot negotiate true desire, but if there is only one man available to you, and you don't read romance novels and have never even kissed anyone else - that "desire" only has one outlet.
Over many years of marriage there are times when wifey is either attracted to my physical qualities (which are not that impressive tbh, but that's the point), and other times where I just got a job or bought her something. End result is the same - raw attraction - and I don't really care where it comes from as long as I'm the object. This agrees with your theory.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1d ago
What you describe doesnt exist anymore because of technology and high mobility. The type of virginal untainted women does not exist in western civilization. We no longer live in tight knit communities where you were born, lived, and died in, and our only source of information was the newspaper and town crier. Women always had vag tingles and hypergamy ( why we say AWALT) but the community, church, peers, family and lack of brain rotting media really kept most women on a leash.
I was watching this clip of a very pretty Amish women like you describe that lived in a tight knit community with no media get interviewed on a smart phone. She was in the kitchen preparing food when asked "What does F M K mean?' She was thinking and said "family, motherhood, kids." Good luck finding someone like that.