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Why do you think men are not attending dating events in my area?
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polishknight

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago Stickied

Mods: Please reflair if required. Someone please post to Reddit site since I, due to a tragic injustice, am unable to. Have a good (upcoming) weekend all.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

I believe that most men now understand that dating events are a waste of time no matter what sort of man you are, if you are one of the bottom 90% in attractiveness, you are only there to be ignored or mocked, and if you are the top 10%, you have better options than been swamped by desperate wall-bangers and single mothers.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2d ago

Bob Crane, the star of Hogan's Heroes, used to go out nightly with a friend who provided early-era VHS equipment to videotape sexual encounters. It was essentially a full-time job to pick-up hot women and sleep with them, even for a TV star of the era. Keep in mind that, back then, there were 4 channels on TV. That Was It! Bob Crane would be like a combination of Brad Pitt AND Chris Pratt.

If you're a Chad, the dating events and apps are sort of like getting Dominos pizza delivered on the app, for free. Yeah, we think it's easy and so on to just meet hot women out in public if we were them but, well, we aren't them are we?

If I had a son, yeah this is controversial and @TYPO-MagaShiv would argue with me on this, but I'd do EVERYTHING in my power to make him tall. Since I have a daughter, that question is moot, thankfully.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

I'd do EVERYTHING in my power to make him tall.

I know that consuming high protein diets when you grow up help make you taller, just look at the Japanese kids who grew taller by eating more Western diets over the Japanese kids who only consumed traditional Japanese diets, what else can you do, give him growth hormone??

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 2d ago

Fact 1: Men date to procreate.

Fact 2: Women over 40 can't procreate.

Fact 3: Dating events are divided into age groups due to social norms.

Put those facts together and you've got your answer.

Ask a successful attractive man over 40 "Do you want to hang out with a load of women your age with baggage who want your money and your commitment, or do you want to meet fun and sexy women instead?"

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hhhhdmt 4d ago
  • Women want men with options. Men who have options can go on Tinder. And men who have extremely high level of options (like male celebrities) have women throwing themselves at men.

These women are Cukoo for cocoa puffs. Do they actually think that high status men are going to show up to "date" a bunch of 40 something women when these high status single 40 something men can bang gorgeous women as young as their mid 20's? Lol.

No high status men will show up to a dating event unless it is to restock his harem and even then, most high status men will not come.

  • For most average status men, these events are a waste. These women have this implicit assumption that they are the prize and men are somehow beneath them. Sorry but a bunch of old women who are past the age of fertility are not the "prize".

Why would 40 something men want these women? For the men that don't have kids, they will prefer younger women so they can have kids.

For the divorced men, they will either me happy being single after being financially wrecked by a divorce. Why would these men further risk losing 50% of their remaining pension and retirement savings and assets for a woman who can't even give them biological kids?

Many of these women have teenage kids who you as the step father will be expected to pay for. These women also have past relationship baggage which they will take out on you. They will take out the anger they have for their past relationships with men on you because you are a man and feminism tells them that women have a right to be collectively angry with men.

Men know that many of these 40 something women had loving caring boyfriends/husbands in the past they cheated on or dumped or treated poorly. They also know many of these women took advantage of men financially and as such, they are disgusted by these women.

Further, despite the media claiming women hit their sexual peak in their 40's (lol), these women have low to non existent sex drives. So why would men show up to a dating event with a bunch of entitled, rude, cruel, financially predatory, sexless women?

Women need to understand: men do not enjoy your company. They tolerate it. They tolerate it for 2 reasons: one is to have biological children and the other is to have sex with you. And 40 something women can neither birth your biological kids nor can they be good sexual partners.

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cundardunfinished Jr. Hamster Analyst 3d ago

Well said. I have never attended one of these and did a quick check of them in my area. They have very narrow age ranges, no doubt because the vitriol they would receive if they were introducing a 40 year old to a (gasp) 25 year old.

I see 25-34, 28-38, and 35 and up. I think in all of these cases men are probably only really interested in the bottom half or quarter of the range or less. Being middle-aged myself if I set an app to my age I get tons of women desperate for a baby. I have no need for an event to meet these types of women

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Yup, any man that could be accepted and successful at one of these meetups is high enough status to not only not need to rely on the meetup events, but also high enough status that they'd do far better outside of them. If all they want is an easy lay, they can clean up with younger, tighter, and more convenient women on Tinder or the like.

If they want more than just an easy lay, they can join a social group or organization that allows them to vet a woman that is younger, tighter, and more convenient or just randomly meet suitable women far far outside of a meat-market event for failure women.

Because let's be real. Any woman that needs one of these events to meet suitors is a fucking failure. They were born with one of the most powerful negotiating tools known to all mankind - a working vagina. PIG WOMAN CAN GET SUITORS FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

That's how powerful vagina is. Even a fake ass ugly social experiment can attract suitors. A woman that cannot meet suitors is either too unattractive, too picky, or both.

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JudgeSmales 4d ago

"Women need to understand: men do not enjoy your company. They tolerate it. They tolerate it for 2 reasons: one is to have biological children and the other is to have sex with you."

That perfectly describes my lifelong experience. I realized this when I was still in puberty and now I'm 62. With maybe two exceptions, every woman I ever met was far intellectually inferior and BORING. I was merely tolerating their presence because vagina. At a certain point, the vagina (or unsuccessful pursuit of it) isn't worth the psychic cost of suffering a fool.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4d ago

too unattractive

That very Pig-Woman Experiment you mentioned proved there's no such thing!

They just don't like the options they have.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

A guy can truly be an Incel (Involuntary Celibate) if even low/bottom tier women don't want them.

A femcel is any woman so unattractive that the Chads or Tyrones are not willing to dumpster dive even for quick NSA sex, even though they still find some mid tier good men willing to be be with them.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Well, I mean mainly in comparison to what they offer.

To me a single mom that is a physical 10, but has 5 kids from 6 baby daddies, an entire medicine cabinet of mental issues, and STD's that only sharks get, is incredibly unattractive.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3d ago

I usually use "attractive" to mean "at least fuckable or better" and only for looks, rather than "someone with whom I can have a relationship".

Your example of:

single mom that is a physical 10, but has 5 kids from 6 baby daddies, an entire medicine cabinet of mental issues, and STD's that only sharks get [yes, I struck through the dealbreaker]

...is someone I would still find very attractive for a fling.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

The problem with so many modern women, especially after they reach their late 20s and beyond is that their SMV is typically high enough to continue to raise their body count, but their RMV/MMV is far too low for the men they desire.

Which is why any woman who manages to lock down a man, did so by settling for a man they would have ignored, friendzoned or foodie called a few years earlier.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

For me, a septum piercing is a no-go no matter how otherwise attractive she is. Period. I can't even eff them. Back 30 years ago, at least, the over-30 women were otherwise normal looking.

I remember 30 years ago going to an over-30 singles dance and how anthropologically interesting it was. The women all sat at the inner tables like chickens inside of a roost and the men were standing around holding drinks almost like wolves circling prey, but never going in because the women had circled the wagons, so to speak. The women still insisted the men approach but forgot they were supposed to stand up against a wall alone, or a least in an approachable configuration.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Yeah the cattle piercings and the utterly excessive and usually random crappy artless scribble tier body graffiti are two other no-goes for me as well.

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Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 2d ago

Facial piercings and tattoos are a major ick to lots of men including myself.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 4d ago

What are our thoughts?

Our thoughts are this: you women must be slow learners.

Your late teens and 20s were the time when you had the power. Men would chase you, because you had potential. Even if you were mid (which you are, otherwise you would not still be on the market), you were getting attention from guys.

Here's the thing: the tables turn. It's hard for men to get lad in their teens and 20s and easy for women. After about 38, the tables have well and truly turned - its now easier for men to get laid and harder for women.

And it just gets worse as you travel down the time line. After 40 it really heats up - when I was 42, I recall it being like a free buffet - the chicks were thirsty. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. And this carries well into our 50s.

The simple answer (that you will not process) is that you left it too late. Men wise up, get laid more easily in our 30s - 50s, lose interest in the drama in our 60s and are happily retired in our 70s.

The answer is this: you blew it.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

lose interest in the drama in our 60s

And sometimes way earlier depending on how shitty women have acted.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

Also, young men are naive, horny, and sexually experienced (for the most part). So women at their maximum SMV are up against consumers who barely know how to write a bank check (sorry, agey term!)

It's not that things totally reverse in our 40's. We're not hot guys where women are so horny they're willing to toss us free dinners for the chance to talk to us, but rather we're a lot smarter/educated than we were back then AND they have much less leverage. The number one thing they like to remind us they offer, particularly youth and child bearing, are no longer relevant or even a detriment. A 40 something clock ticker can't be trusted to not dump the guy the second she squeezes out the kids. I was chuckling when I looked up pretty movie stars on IMDB who go married in their 30's, had kids, and then divorced the guy.

There's the old joke that goes a second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience.

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First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 4d ago

Maybe they think they won't get value for time and money?

Its that simple. Offer something attainable and worthwhile that they want and they will buy in.

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JudgeSmales 4d ago

M'lady slyly avoids directly criticizing men ("Hey, I'm just asking the question"), but don't be fooled. She and her sistas would reflexively tag any man attending these events as a needy loser with few options. They might pretend to interact with him, but only to CONFIRM their unearned illusion of superiority.

Men (all of them, not just men "with options") are smart enough to avoid being the plaything that gives these women a five-second dopamine hit. Imagine having to BUY A TICKET for that honor!

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4d ago

It's not acceptable content for here, but related are articles of zoomer women rejecting the apps and wanting more direct venues. The PROBLEM with those venues, of course, is that their cruel and apathetic rejection of men has a direct cost to the men unlike the dopamine hit of rejecting hundreds of men with as many swipes.

So it took these women 2 decades or so to realize that hundreds of men hitting on them online has zero cost to the men and, therefore, zero status but at the same time, men no longer want to take on direct rejection in a post feminist era.

And this is what they would call a Mexican Standoff.

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JudgeSmales 3d ago

Women can filter online for height, but what fun is that anymore? It's much more of a dopamine thrill to swipe men down face-to-face for having the nerve of only being 5-foot-9.

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wswZtyqNGQ 4d ago

There has to be some business opportunity here of making fake dating events where you charge women some amount and pretend to charge the men more. Of course no men will actually sign up, but instead you hire gay rent boys to act as straight men for the night with the agenda for them to have an open recruitment for gigalo-ing. IOW, the women who want to be seen going home with the hottest guys will have to pay the most. (I'm assuming that rent boys have no problem sleeping with older women since to them all women are equally unappealing so they may as well get paid the most.)

In any case, there has to be some way to monetize these loser women.

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BeeSerious9 4d ago

Shit, can you delete this post and call me.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3d ago

If 100 men showed up to a singles event with 100 women, how many of those men would receive the interest of those women?

It wouldn't even be remotely close to a 1-to1 pairing. Most of the men would like most of the women and most of the women would like few, if any, of the men

The vast majority of the men would leave empty handed and a few men would walk away with multiple numbers

There is no point in the vast majority of the male attendees to go through the humiliation ritual imposed by women and the handful of men who could go and clean up don't need to go to a singles event in the first place. They attract women everywhere they go

If even confronted with this reality, and even if OP mentally accepted it, she would not like the overwhelming majority of men there and could never change her nature anyway.

Men either go where the fruits or borne for them or they go their own way.

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JudgeSmales 3d ago

Some of the remainder men might get phone numbers, but all would come with this proviso from the women: "I don't do coffee dates. It's at least three dinner dates or nothing."

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3d ago

Exactly

The bar is still too high

Especially when she's given men more for less in the past

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3d ago

If you want to post these to X (Twitter) in TheRedPill community page you can

As long as you post with the same WAATGM standards you're already following you could post the exact same thing there too if you wish

Our page could use more content and it would be heavily appreciated since you already have the post made as is

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BeeSerious9 3d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3hbcbe8hDk

Single Mother Gets FURIOUS Because No Men Attended The Singles Event

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 3d ago

where are the real men at?

*said unironically while wearing a pound of makeup*

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