Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1mo ago
Oh man, this touched a nerve. I should probably make it a post on WATGMA given its length, but here goes...
There are many reasons she doesn't / refuses to understand why she never sees men in any of these things. To the points that other commentators have made, I'd add these:
I bet lots of the things that the OP is doing, they initially had a lot of men, maybe was even exclusively men. But men know the first time a woman shows up is like a warning shot to get out soon: that single woman will love being there, because there's no female drama, and the guys are polite and attentive to her, and the group is focused on its purpose rather than social drama. She will inevitably invite a few of her friends, some of whom have no interest in the subject at hand, but just "want to meet men" or be part of the cool kids club. At some point, the accommodations that need to be made for these women (whether in altering the initial purpose "why do we always have to go fishing? Next week let's do crocheting!", or needing to spend more time on tamping down the drama, or whatever) get to be too bothersome, and men start to leave. This starts a rapid downfall with every additional woman coming in leading to 2 men getting out, until the group is completely women. At that point, the women look around asking "where are all the men?" while not understanding that they have no interest in the Gossip Girl clique that the group has degenerated to.
I remember many years ago, I was visiting a husband and wife couple and we were walking in their city. The guy had to run an errand, and the wife asked me to come with her to return some yarn (we were all friends). She mentioned that there was a knitting class going on at the store, and said "come with me, maybe you'll meet a girl!" I was intrigued, since knitting classes were all the rage those days. Believe it or not, I had learned how to knit when I was a little kid and my Mom taught me (along with using a sewing machine to repair clothes, and needlepoint; she'd buy my sister and me those project kits where you can sew all the little x's and end up with a nice design that you could frame). But that class... I was literally the only guy in the entire store. When I walked in, no one was talking. All of the girls in the class looked at me like I was a piece of meat and they hadn't eaten in days. It reminded me of that scene in Hitchcock's "The Birds" where they open the garage door and the entire lawn is filled with birds just sitting and staring at the people. I didn't even wait for my friend to finish her business; I told her I'd wait outside and ran out of there as fast as I could. It was unsettling. With whatever quick glances I had made, it seemed that the girls were mostly my age, and maybe a few of them might even have been cute (I can't remember anymore; I blocked it out almost as soon as I had left). But there was no way in hell I would have joined that class or even spent more than a few minutes in that store, despite the fact that, yeah, I kinda enjoyed knitting when I was a kid.
Related to my first point, for men joining a club, the purpose of the club is the foremost goal, and the socializing is a secondary benefit. This is how we approach most of our life e.g. our workplace is a place to get work done and get a paycheck. Any friends made along the way are a nice bonus. In contrast, for women, the purpose of the club is usually secondary to the social aspects. For example, if men start a book club, they'll usually read non-fiction: business books, biographies, histories, etc. and the discussion will be about the book and how we can improve our own lives / thinking / etc with the book's insights. Yes, we might become friends as well, and maybe have a few drinks while we discuss, but that's secondary. In contrast, a woman's book club will 90% be fiction, and not even good fiction, like reading classics and trying to understand the layers of meaning and insight that authors like Dostoevsky or Shakespeare had. But rather bad fiction that is nothing but female drama written down on paper. And the 10% nonfiction will be 9% stupid self-help and relationship books, and 1% autobiographies written by people who haven't earned the right to write an autobiography yet, but are therefore more "relatable" to the ladies book clubs that will inevitably buy them so they can validate their own lives ("See, my miserable, alcoholic, purpose-less life is just like this guy, and he got published, so it must be okay! Plus, it means I'm not alone, and I carry no responsibility for my life since [a few] others also made the same mistakes!")
Also for the truly social events, we mask the purpose of our meeting, to make it less interesting to women. For example, most women have no idea why men like to golfing. So when my buddies and I arrange a "golfing trip", even if it's technically open to women, we know that none of the women in our group will come. But the whole reason why golf is awesome is that it's a way to spend a nice afternoon in essentially a manicured park, riding a fun motorized cart, and drinking beer with your buddies. Plus a little exercise walking the holes. And overlooking a bad putt here or there builds friendships. It's such a good bonding exercise that most business executives consider it mandatory to be a good golfer in order to schmooze customers. Heck, I don't even know how to golf. But I'll happily go along because it's just fun to hang out with the guys. But no woman ever wants to come, which is the whole point. If instead, we said "hey, we're going to hang out at the park with a cooler full of ice cold beer, and maybe get some walking in" they'd flood the space.
Similarly, a few of my buddies have boats. And when we announce that we're going to fish, no woman wants to come (except for a single one who, annoyingly, happens to love fishing; so we try to schedule when she's busy :-). And yes, we do fish. But the best part is being out in the water, away from humanity for several hours, where we can relax and just enjoy each other's company while waiting for the fish to bite. Again, if we told women "Hey, we're going to hang out on a boat this afternoon, enjoy the waves and the sun, maybe grab lunch on the dock, and oh yeah, occasionally hold a stick out in the water (as the saying goes, there's a fine line between fishing and standing on the side of the boat with a stick looking like an idiot :-)" they'd be jumping into the boat in waves.
Since this woman is probably really asking "Where are all the rich men?" I'll tell her: they're at events where the sticker price is specifically designed to weed out gold diggers. Expensive steakhouses are a great place to meet rich men (So great that it's not uncommon for high-priced escorts to wait at the bar looking for customers). But, unless you're coming as a rich man's date, you will need to be willing to spend a few hundred on your meal, or at least 50-100 on drinks at the bar, in order to get near them. And most women don't even like steak. Same with cigar bars, and other places that are technically open to women, but not really feasible for poor people. Sure, when we want some eye candy, or to flirt with women, we'll go to "trendy" bars or restaurants that are a little less expensive and where the food is more instagram-worthy (aka women will be willing to buy it) and they will be filled with women on their special girls-night-out monthly splurge and who are looking for guys themselves. But when we want to just enjoy our own company, we'll choose the steakhouse where they won't get in. They're specifically designed to be unattractive to women (masculine decor, low lighting, no instagram-worthy shots to be found).
Sorry for the long post. I think this triggered me because I've recently moved and I'm looking to join a gym. I've been blissfully unaware of the whole "toxic gym" culture that influencers have created, because my last apartment building had a gym in the building just for residents, and so I never had to deal with it. Upto now, all the gyms I've been to, even if there are women there, they're mostly there to workout and it hasn't been a problem. And the guys are all doing their thing, but friendly if I ever needed a spotter or wanted to share equipment between sets. I'm pissed that now I'll have to also watch out for stupid fitness influencers secretly taping guys doing random things to feed their outrage click-bait tiktok channels. Sigh. Maybe I should just buy some equipment for my house...
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
That, and for the greater visibility it'll have as a standalone post vs a comment made on a 3-day-old post.
And WATGMA could use the traffic! It's been quiet for a while.
Bozza 1mo ago
Ah yes. They've completely overrun the gyms.
I purposely go to gritty meathead gyms. Newbies and teenagers are too intimidated to go in there. The equipment is good. They're never too busy. Everyone there trains seriously and there's a good sense of camaraderie.
Slowly women have been injecting themselves into the gyms. They show up with a full face of makeup, hair done, and the skimpiest outfits that they've purposely picked out. They then proceed to walk on the treadmill for 40 minutes, do some of the most ridiculous exercises you've ever seen, or just sit on their phone texting.
And don't get me started on the fuckwits who turn upto the gym with a fucking tripod to record their sets.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
This reminds me of a video that just came out a week ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fS7dN-f6TU
Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 2mo ago
I can only shiver at whatever she means by 'do activism'
All I see is purple hair, nose rings, hairy legs, tattoos and body positivity. And shrieking. Lots of shrieking.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
Just rape our male spaces why don't you
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
I wonder
I'd go to more social things if there were men there. Women have infiltrated all institutes.
I can't slam a few beers with bros after work.
I can't smoke pipe tobacco and discuss books at a book club with the bros.
I can't lift weights in a dirty gym with HGH gut bros and chit-chat in between sets.
I can't join a DnD club and larp with fellow sweaty nerd bros.
Wherever women are they turn everything cringe and gay. I think the most saddening thing is that we men have isolated us from each other and turned into low test simps. The concept of brotherhood and male friendship has also been destroyed and if someone would wish for men-only hobbies and gatherings people think that's homosexual or incel-ish. I'm pretty sure a number of men here think it's homo when they read above mentioned gyms, book clubs etc.
That has never been the case before in modern history. We had jock chad fraternity clubs. We had chess clubs. Boy scouts. Playing with your grunge band in the garage. Go to some dirty bar at the harbor as seamen. Fighting together in wars. Spitting in each others' palms and taking a blood oath to be friends forever. Joining a Harley gang. YMCA. Joining a male only 12 step program and have a male sponsor. Everything is totally and utterly eradicated by feminism and woke-ism. Males hanging out with each other has been stigmatized and "gay". In my opinion, this is a huge societal issue that's rarely spoken of.
She means, where are the men SHE FINDS ATTRACTIVE. Other men don't exist to her. The rest of us saw #metoo as a last straw because everyone knows ugly guys cant even breath near women.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
Hell even Chad get warded off of mixed group activities by this shit, he damn well knows that a false rape accusation is going to eventually be inbound when some woman doesn't get the relationship that she thinks her sex coins earned, or the fact that she spread her legs gets out and she decides that throwing someone under a legal and social bus is the go to reaction to avoid a hit to her reputation.
So he sticks to right swiping to get his dick wet on hookup apps and may not even give out his real identity much less meet up with a woman in his home town. It's simpler and safer for men to keep things as anonymized and airgapped as possible.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
Fun story. A Chad I know used to go with his friends skiing near Pittsburgh every year as a tradition. He hooked up with one of the locals working at the lodge and spent a few nights at her place and would ski with his friends during the day.
He said that when the trip was over, he went home and didn’t think anymore of it.
Next year he goes and everyone at the bar had “FUD” buttons and he asked what they were and the local said: “They mean Fuck You Derek! This woman was romanced by this jerk who was just using her and he’s coming here again!” So he got a button of his own (he’s Derek) and hung out with the guys and drank. When she came in and saw him, the guys all said: “Hey, Sandy! Meet our bud Derek! He’s cool!” Her plan to chase him away backfired.
He says every year he went there and saw her afterward, she’d turn away from him to refuse to acknowledge his existence.
What a Chad. He didn’t get all scared but just had fun with it. He saw he had done nothing wrong and didn’t bother explaining himself. Those were different times, though, before false accusations started to take off although Anita Hill goes back to 1991.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
I call BS on her claim. I belong to a book club literally called the Men’s Book Club. We used to have a listing on meetup but when meetup started charging, we quietly listed it for free on goodreads so it’s been effectively private since then. Nonetheless, there are lots of activities on meetup for women to meet men such as shooting clubs, hiking, archery, and so on.
I suspect she’s griping about an invisible man problem: The few guys who go there are “losers” in her eyes and so the men drop out. Many guys who advise going to meetups to meet women say that you have a hard time pulling girls until you’re in an “alpha” stage where you’re either the organizer or a top member and pre-selection kicks in so the 95:5 ratio makes it like going to a nightclub. Same with speed dating. Ordinary men get discouraged and drop out.
So this leaves meetups for men who simply are passionate about their highly male centric hobbies rather than as ways to meet women.
Women (or men) who want to meet people via hobbies or classes face the problem that it becomes a very expensive or time consuming dating club: You spend 3 months enrolled in an art class and there’s perhaps 1 or 2 prospects in it and they already have someone. You can’t preview who will be attending and the availability. Perhaps if one is chatty they can network and befriend members with cousins who are single for an introduction, but then that involves (ick) actually “finding” men by doing work rather than waiting to be approached.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
There's the real problem. They got too inured to not having to put in any effort to meet the top nth% (in their eyes) of available men in high school and college. A woman having issues meeting men nearly always has one or more of the following underlying causes:
There are men that any woman that isn't locked in a female only prison or nunnery can meet every day, but either those women are ignoring them or those women have made it intentionally or not obvious to men that it is not worth those men's time time to approach.
There is nothing stopping a woman from chatting up some guy she encounters while shopping at the grocery store other than she is too shallow to consider him human or too lazy to get to know someone without an institutional crutch. Men have to do it all the time, heavens forbid a woman have to risk rejection like men do.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
The ironic part is, now there are men pretending to be women and invading female spaces. They don't seem to like that very much.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
I think it's hilarious.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Oh but you can, just gotta go small/underground and keep things under the radar. Specifically ban women in the charter. Do things women hate and would never come to, like fishing.
Funny thing is my wife is expressly banned from the entire house when my group meets, yet she loves it and does all the secretarial work for it to happen. When she gets back, the smoke is so thick you can't see very well into the next room.
No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
There was this matchmaker who set up a fishing meet-up for women to meet men and fish together. Quite a few men showed up, and to the women's dismay - fished instead of mingled.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Heh, what women do not understand is that fishing = the male equivalent of "mingling".
Absolute best play for a woman with sense in that scenario would be to sit quietly by the men (so as not to disturb either the men or the fish) for a couple hours. Guaranteed she would be the most desired woman of the group.
hhhhdmt 2mo ago
Men can socialize with other men just fine. We know they will invade our spaces so we have created uninvadable spaces: our homes. I invite my male friends to watch UFC fights and boxing matches AT MY HOME. No one (so far) can legally invade that.
I am sure when women do cotton onto this, they will legislate against men hosting their friends at their own homes too.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 2mo ago
Yup. A guy can just furnish out a large garage/shed like it is a studio apartment with some basic furniture and amenities and it becomes a convenient male space for group activities that women often don't even know about much less get invited to.
We've just learned that spaces open to the general public may as well be enemy territory so there's no point in us lingering there for most social purposes.
Women did this to themselves.
hhhhdmt 2mo ago
Funny how the media and "experts" will claim their is some kind of a male loneliness epidemic. When, in reality, its women who constantly invade men's spaces and refuse to leave men alone.
When, in reality, men have plenty of fun just enjoying each others company, watching sports, watching stand up comedy, playing musical instruments (i.e. guitar, drums etc.) etc.
They can't stand the idea of men enjoying each others company so they push the phony narrative that men crave women's companionship.
I mean my barbershop has women in it now. Not just as barbers but as actual customers. Lol. As if their hair dressing shops weren't enough.
I don't care. I will continue to see my friends privately like you said.
superhitops 2mo ago
Womem like to bore all man places they go as a social shit test with their hostile passive-agressive behavior.
They tried/are trying on videogames, for example. Problem is, fail is expensive in the millions in this industry and their shit test is becoming a serie of failures. So, they are being shut down.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
Not since they started demanding my phone number to play. No way.
But srsly. Playing teh vidya games and developing my many hobbies, even in middle age, is way more fun than talking to women that think they are sophisticated because they "do activism".
cundardunfinished 2mo ago
Women doing these things probably fucked up not locking down a high value man in college. These are adult adult things meaning you're 25+ and have no natural outlets for socialization. So by definition they are approaching or past the wall.
And there are not "zero" men of course, just zero in the top 20% who already have a partner or don't see the value in leftovers at a book club.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 2mo ago
"Oh I am too tired to cook! I have been out today shopping, then I met my friend and we had coffee, then I went to swim and then the book club I am exhausted! Never saw any men, where are those losers?"
"Working, and resting probably"
Bozza 2mo ago
It's female hamstering. They want the disney fantasy that they go to a class or a book club and prince charming sweeps her of her feet.
This seems to be all the rage on TikTok at the moment as "girlie" advice. Clearly none of them stop to think about it for very long. Are men going to be going to the local cafe at 1pm to discuss 50 shades of grey - probably not.
But hey, where all the men at.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
Female advice has done nothing but scare off men.
Women could have listened to male advice this whole time and yet they won't
I suspect this will continue getting horrendously bad until male spaces get codified into law
Or worse, some dip shit politicians pass laws forcing women into private property to hang out with unwillingly men (aka men losing their property rights for the sake of including women)
Someone will at least try to go that route if they can't convince men to be in public
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
They're doing invite only private hangouts, hoe
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 2mo ago
Also, why the fuck would men go to classes or meetups to meet women?
There are only a few hot or cute girls in each class or meetup (if any) and then every guy is going for them.
Additionally, after you leave they leave these classes they go straight to da club or tinder swiping to get fucked in a black mini dress, so meeting them at these places is worthless anyway
Men go to these classes for the scraps of options and then these women go swiping and clubbing elsewhere anyway, so you're competing with every dude at the classes or meets and then these girls are getting cocked out of their mind elsewhere, so what's the point?
Women are rapidly creating an environment where men should just do their own thing and put in minimal effort while increasing their value since women will always shoot IOIs or position themselves around or near men they want anyway