See @Durek_The_Bald comment below. When a “nice guy” loses it and becomes “dangerous” because he’s angry that being “nice” (as in doing what women claimed they want from men) doesn’t get him laid, he’s shamed for it. “Nice guys” getting angry and expressing anger is actually the first stage to RP awareness as they realize that what they were told isn’t true: Giving women a lot of stuff up-front only encourages such women to exploit and discard him.

You used the analogy of a clothing catalog: Imagine a Costco samples tray where they handed out not just tiny bites but entire bags of product for people to “try”. For the shopper, there’s no incentive then to actually buy the product, is there?

This works both ways: For hot guys, there’s zero reason for commitment which carries legal liabilities when he can get sex with one woman after another.

As I said, I chuckle when she laments that the hot guys lack empathy (that’s who she cares about, after all) when she lacks empathy herself but, most importantly, an awareness of her lack of empathy. That’s the hallmark of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: A delusional state of superiority to others. Babies and small children are naturally narcissistic and good parenting is about gently but firmly guiding them out of that mental state: That throwing their toys on the floor isn’t “cute”.

The hallmark of a pathological psychological state is when someone lacks an awareness of it or an ability to process a resolution.

When my parents met and married back in 1958, when women denied men sex until marriage it was assumed that she wasn’t sleeping with some other guy at the bar although that was a possibility but it was rare. Women worried about getting pregnant out-of-wedlock and, back then, being a single mother got one shamed. Also, dates weren’t going out to expensive dinners but rather bowling or a Vanilla Coke at the drugstore.

As someone who was born previous to the modern era, I marvel at how many single mothers are out there. It’s like seeing so many people die from not wearing seat belts. Either the practical results from oral contraception are oversold or women lack the ability to use it properly. With men, this is less of a factor in that even if 95% of men understand you shouldn’t have sex with a woman you aren’t engaged to without a condom, period, the other 5% can still create all these single mothers. It’s how Idiocracies are born.

Since it’s now common knowledge to men that even smarter women who know how to use contraception effectively are sleeping around, it’s now assumed that if she’s denying you sex, it’s not because she’s saving it up for marriage but rather will regard you as a chump if you pay for dinners for months and she friend zones you anyway. I recall in the 1980’s when that term actually become part of the public lexicon. At first, it was a term that women used to dump men, but it was largely reserved for after the 1st date. By the 4th date in my parent’s time, at most, people would go “steady”.

[Hank Hill voice]: and propane accessories!

@mustangfrank1:

Women are both accomplishes *accomplices and victims in their own misery.

FTFY.

1) Anecdotal claim. I concur that (many) simps often hold a low level of resentment towards women, but they often are unconscious about it (hence why they can’t break out of it.). This will tie into number 5 later. I’ve seen MANY Simps go through their whole lives being sincerely nice though and it’s kind of sad.

2) Men who lie about being “nice” to women because women lied to them is part of a vicious circle initiated by the women. This will tie into number 3.

3) I politely disagree. Women who allow “niceness” to become a “bedroom killer” have a psychological disorder. In other words, we learned to pretend to enjoy rat hairs in our soup because that’s the only way restaurants would serve the soup to us.

This notion of a “good drama” reminds me of Inspector Clouseau’s relationship with Kato, whom he hired to attack him unpredictably to keep him “on his toes”. It made for some of the funniest scenes in movie history. If you haven’t seen The Pink Panther Returns, please do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbUD7FRStbY

But who would really want to live like this for long? Who would want to marry “Kato?”

I prefer boredom to having to clown-game mentally undeveloped teenagers. I can’t speak for all men though, so I invite others to comment.

4) Again, humans have needs. It’s not a bad thing. It is amusing, though, that women who complain that Chad isn’t “chivalrous” can only hope to try to force “niceness” from Chad via the tool she uses on beta males: withholding sex, but Chad is immune to such emotional blackmail.

5) This is how women like to think it should work in that a “real man” should be happy to accept her shit-tests. A Chad who has options, but nonetheless will stay with her because she (and her kids) are “special”).

“White knights” are just that: they threaten other men to protect “damsels in distress” and yet, women regard such men as “nice guys” and weak when he fails her shit-tests where she actually attacks HIM and he doesn’t respond that it’s not a big deal.

A man who refuses to defend himself is ultimately a lousy protector similar to why the stewardess advises you to put on your own oxygen mask first before assisting children next to you.

Hence, why women who think this way often fall for “bad boys” and become single mothers or “damaged goods” or other pathologies we observe here.

Nietzsche has been overrated at times and hence become a joke trope, but he did say many wonderful things and he’s on my (re) reading list. The challenge to reading him is that the text I originally had was a poor translation from German. I recently did a reread of the Bible and found the NIV version was a lot more readable than King James.