Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Analysis: This is a woman more than 30 years old, left leaning liberal infected with the equality mind virus.
She's confused about reality versus what she believes should be without regard to examining the why. This is lack of considering cause and effect.
She doesn't want to be a wife. She is only interested in being a "girlfriend". Liberal.
It is odd to say that "men don't agree" she is a good girlfriend when men's judgement is all that matters on this.
She prioritizes her pets over relationships; cat and dog > romantic relationship. Liberal.
Ending a relationship is simple. You just end it. Everyday she doesn't just end it, she is lying to him.
They live together in a rental, but in her mind, he lives with her, and it is her lease. This is controlling and demonstrates a self centered perspective of reality.
Unless she is bisexual and also dates females, she should be saying "men". Her language shows a consistent pattern of thinking as gender neutral and equality.
He did this; he said that; he couldn't deal; he didn't blame; he felt; he wanted; he couldn't. It has been said many times: "men are human doers; women are human beings". Her having slept with more people is just a mere fact.
Another point of evidence that she is liberal is phrasing "his conservative upbringing".
Wow! Only 4 to 5 at the same time? Wow, what restraint!
She wants to date causally and doesn't want to be a wife. What? She might want to settle down after years of casual dating. Why? In the realm of equality, dating is the same as marriage. Why not settle down after years of dating? Or you could also settle down then causally date, right? It's all the same. /s
Not family focused. This is more common than you might think.
Confirmed.
She incorrectly believes that dating is something a person does like a hobby - a skill to be improved so as to be better next time with the next man and that dating in 30's == dating in 20's, that dating in 40's == dating in 30's, that dating in 50's == dating in 40's, etc. However, this is NOT true. Family is about life. Dating is short-term.
She doesn't want to have children. She is self-aware. Unfortunately, she is also more masculine than most men would accept. I would also say there is also correlation with her left leaning theologies and core believes of equality.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 3mo ago
I chuckle at how she uses “equality” language such as “people” when she continues to engage in a feminine entitlement lifestyle. She seeks men to fulfill the role as provider/protector, entertainer, and planner. The modern language these women are using includes “plans dates” and “shows effort”. This is all means they want men in the role of being a daddy which is the mindset of a child.
She doesn’t want to refer to men as “men” or state her interest in having children because then she’d have to accept adult ownership, responsibility, and most importantly, liability for her efforts failing. She kicks the can down the road thinking that she doesn’t have to ““settle” down” (settle is a word they hate since they should get whatever they want, a childish notion) until her late 30’s which are coming up fast.
I don’t think it’s her masculinity or “strong woman” nonsense driving men off but rather her selfishness, irresponsibility, and declining looks and fertility. She can’t make up her mind whether she wants kids or not which makes her a LOUSY choice for any man she finds desirable to commit to that with her when such a man could find a more suitable candidate 5 years younger than her.
That’s the key thing they can’t figure out is how they age in dog years on the MM: A 39 year old woman finally ready to “settle down” and have kids with beta bucks has about 10% of the fertility as a woman 5 years younger. They’re good at telling men that a mere 5 inches differentiates between a chad and a short king, but 5 YEARS is just as significant in that context. I was ruminating recently how at my age, 5 years goes by so fast. Back when I was a teenager, 5 years in college seemed like forever. In our youth, we come to believe we’re immortal in a sense because time appears to go by so slowly. Women hit their peak in their teens and it must seem like they’re immortal goddesses. She had top tier sexual experiences and social status that the majority of us men couldn’t imagine. It would be like all of us having had cheerleader girlfriends from our teens to our early 30’s who ALSO cooked and cleaned for us.
It’s a strange comparison, but women such as this remind me of idle inner city men hanging out on street corners not knowing what to do. They’re in their late 20’s and have never had to focus on studying in school or how to work at a job because their single mother only instilled the bare minimum of discipline to eat, brush their teeth, and bathe, but hadn’t actually had any discipline to earn a literal living. After they age out of childhood, they’re adrift out in public.
This woman is in a similar boat: She’s an average looking woman whose better days are behind her and she has no idea how to have an adult relationship. She had a therapist but fired her perhaps because the therapist doesn’t understand the root problem either.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Well it looks like we've reached the peak of HoeFlation. Buyers(simps) are at a historic 70 year low and the only buyers left are seasoned investors with high standards or else they can't qualify at current market prices. So now we're seeing price cuts(lowering standards) from desperate sellers(leftover women). Soon there will be a race to the bottom as price discovery happens.
Remember the 5 stages of a bubble. Displacement(birth control, no-fault divorce, metoo, etc) - Boom(he must be a 666, Tinder, hot girls Summer) - Euphoria(tiktok, Onlyfans, etc) - Profit taking(MGTOW, Red Pill/Game, Passport Bros, etc) - Panic(supply overwhelms demand, lowered standards, etc).
So guys, what is a leftover woman worth now? What will be the final price? Maybe that guy flipping burgers for $35k/yr, overweight, short, etc might be the new buyer for an overweight 30+, high n-count, combative woman?
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 4mo ago
You've been here plenty long enough to know how this place works. Edit the shaming out and I'll let the comment stand.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
The arousing men she desires do not want her beyond short-term use while the men that could give her what she wants, are not remotely arousing to her.
An all too common theme of modern women.
user84893093748959 Jr. Hamster Analyst 3mo ago
Unfortunately, all she wants is short-term.
AbusiveFather1 4mo ago
Nurses really are the fucking worst
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Even in a perfectly ideal world, she only talks about her hobbies, her activities, lalalala
Zero input why exactly her hobbies would make her valuable. women seem to think that men are thinking in populist terms - "oh she has X hobby, she must be worth Y". And indeed some men do (refraining from categorizing them, because of no shaming rule).
Yet, this "hobby" is merely a social stamp she's collecting and expecting men to drop commitment like a machine. I doubt the men she's aiming for takes such hobbies of random vaginas as anything other than a potential tax break ....
orbilius 4mo ago
Each woman thinks that everyone (including men) obviously values exactly what she values. If she's proud of her degree, then obviously a """good man""" will fall in love with her because of her degree.
If, for various reasons (often discussed in TRP), she values a man certain specific hobbies, then obviously men will value her because of her hobbies.
This is the core of solipsism: the believe that your perspective is the "right one" or the only possible one.
In the past, I've tried explaining this to women by asking them to imagine a man who proudly proclaims that kill:death ratio on Call of Duty. He is legitimately proud of that, but does it matter to her? Nope! Not at all!
But the only response I got was, "that's different."
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Where would you being with this woman? She runs all over the place in her rationalisation.
80:20 rule probably. You are average by your own admission (and its a rare woman who underestimates her attractiveness). You want men who are exceptional, They know you are average. They give you are little ride and then they move on. Every time you try another guy like this it re-affirms the fact that guys like this will get into your knickers, so you are sure you are worthy. You are indeed shag worthy but are you girlfriend worthy? are you mate worthy?
In the end this matters little as you can't stand the idea of settling and if you did the way you would look down on the guy would make him insecure, then he would be neurotic or controlling or something.
Its a good job you have the running and the dog. Cat lady is a bad look. Stay slim and well adjusted but avoid runner's face and you can ride the carousel another decade. Think more dog when you meet a man, less cat like and there is even a glimmer of hope.
Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Let's look at her like she's a car.
She can get plenty of men to test drive it - that means that there is an interest in the car. Her problem is that she can't get anyone to buy the car.
That means that her asking price is too high.
Unfortunately, rather than lower the sticker price, she thinks the problem is with the buyers.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
Sounds like today's housing and car markets. And so they all sit on the market... for years... just ageing. Eventually the price cuts start for people forced to sell, then it spreads little by little as everyone starts talking about what price other people paid. Eventually the sellers either panic or double down but price discovery happens either way. How much is a brand new 2022 that's been sitting on the lot for 3 years worth when there's a 2025, 2024, and 2023 right next to it?
Similar with the OP (and I must say it's excellent to see the history of her posts). Maybe she's in shape and has a bangin body but one guy didn't like her n-count, 4-5 guys didn't see a future with her, she ended relationships with passive guys, 3 guys ghosted her after talking to her, etc. She's basically that 2022 truck on the CarMax lot for $120k with 100k miles and across the street is the 2025 model for $60k.
Oddest-One-Here Jr. Hamster Analyst 4mo ago
A man who earns more than enough to purchase a new luxury car is not going to be interested in buying an old used car for new luxury car prices unless he is terrible at evaluating the cost of items.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4mo ago
Goddamn, this one is probably a bingo. So much to mention, but I'll give it a try:
Since women usually overrate themselves, you're average at best - and that's considering all the make-up and the push-up bra, the flattering angles and nice lightning.
No woman does. But how does that work for you?
So, they were too high after all. Have you ever even dated someone who met them?
So why didn't you marry him?
Oh. Of course.
Not your fault for being a skank; it's all pn this damn society with standards and morals.
Alpha widowed, alright.
He realised he didn't have to be a boyfriend to bed you, so why would he? Then something better came along for him, and you're left still wondering why it didn't end in marriage.
So you'll go back in time and keep your legs closed?
So just being less fat and vapid with a little more money should compensate for having a vagina with it's own Yelp page? I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that.
Of course he is. You're all about levelling up, no way you'd have to settle for less.
Wait for it...
And there it is. And, of course the new guy is better than the ex. But the new guy didn't work out too, so you're still single. But whatever happens, it's never your fault.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 4mo ago
She speaks a lot of womanese code: She wants "confident", "attractive" (to her), dating spenders, the trifecta of princess entitlement. For her to use the word "average" to describe herself implies she's aware that she's making lopsided demands and her offer to sometimes pay for dates means she's trying to hedge her bets and contribute to the relationship. She nonetheless winds up ghosted or dumped after a period of time.
So I was wondering what was going on and I think I have it: She's a beta-bucks "Starter Girlfriend".
These are decent looking men (not chad) that qualify for her height wise (she's 5'3") so a 5'9" king can land her if he pays for dates and has decent enough game to appear "confident". She thinks all is well because why not? He SAYS he enjoyed paying for all the dates (and he better pass the "resist to take her money" test) and they hang out for a year or two and then he realizes he can do better.
So these men do to her what many women do to men: They monkey branch and manage her out. They look for things to nitpick or for some "chemistry" problems and break it off.
The guys that ghost her online start to chat her up (to keep their options open) and then when they see something better, they bounce. She's the side chick.
I want to pity the side chicks, but her hypergamy has her punching over her weight so she brings it upon herself. Granted, she is putting in a LITTLE work such as going to the gym and getting "hobbies" but the problem with that is she can't beat father time.
PoopBeast 4mo ago
I think your analysis here is very likely to be spot on.
When you said " she is putting in a LITTLE work such as going to the gym", it made me think about something that I've felt needs to be talked about more; which is that when women claim gym participation as proof of them "putting in the efofrt", it needs to be said that most women's trips to the gym are pretty pointless with respect to making them more attractive. I don't mean in theory, I mean the way most women practice going to the gym.
I've been going to gyms for a long time, and a lot of women I see barely break a sweat. I've seen a few who did decent aerobic exercise, but most of them don't do anything significant. They do very chill yoga type shit, and things with very small dumbells. I've done yoga, and I've also done things that actually lost weight. That's not going to make you lose much weight, and speaking of weights, I've never seen a woman in the gym push herself to the point of significant muscle stress, so it's not going to build muscle tone.
I'm not criticizing them for what they do in the gym. It's all good that they do this, half the time it's good to hit the gym just to get off your ass and out of the house. And honestly, women don't need to get ripped or even especially fit to be attractive to most men, but I feel like most of the time when you a hear a woman claiming this as some kind of proof that they're "putting in the effort", it's only to try to sound like her high standards are justified. It's a complete joke.
JudgeSmales 4mo ago
Her: "I also have to be physically attracted to them."
And men have to be physically attracted to you. Boner don't lie. She is meeting men on dating apps (hookup apps, let's be honest). Sounds like they stuck around long enough to take a test drive, but decided she wasn't worth the bother.
She sounds like a standard-issue single gal. Everything is "amazing" to her. Ugh.