Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago Stickied
@Seagram7 - this doesn't fit rules 7 or 9, but since the conversations in the comments are good, I'll leave it up, re-flaired "shitpost Saturday". Normally we want the OP to be the woman's own words about her actions and consequences rather than a man's perspective (which is plentiful in the comments section).
Additionally, do please censor subreddit names in the future.
CC: @deeplydisturbed, @houseoftolstoy, @Impressive-Cricket-8, @Land_of_the_losers, @lurkerhasarisen, @moorekom, @MelkorHimself, @ogrilla99, @woodsmoke
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Someone just made a good choice. Well done sir!
People who are supported by others are not owed that support. If they don't give the supporter enough help or make him feel the relationship is worthwhile, he might just see them a big incompatible burden.
This is a bit petty but my back aches enough to indulge my pettiness. Today I went to cut firewood for the winter alone. My good lady has started to say that she does not owe me help getting firewood in -after all she cooks me a portion of food when she makes her dinner and she has hung my washing out and taken it in, leaving it for me in a basket by the door. This I am told is a full time job. We only heat with wood. She does not work so she sits by the fires all winter while she looks at stuff on her phone. She never did that much heavy work but her help and company was very welcome cutting wood in the past. She used to pack nice food and a flask of hot chocolate for us. I spent most of the day wondering if I should make her more strong and independent. It would be the best thing I could do for the feminist cause -set her free to rent and heat her own house, with no need to help anyone. I have too much pity to make that good choice for me right now but my pity is being eroded. I did mention to her when I got home that lazy entitlement is a killer for relationships.
These days you can't tell women to do anything but you can still tell them goodbye.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
And more men need to be saying that. While making it quite clear that they (women) can resort to whatever measures they want, it will just reduce any payout for doing so further because it's easier for a man to recover from a Pyrrhic victory than it is for a woman.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Yep, I'm in the small 20% category that initiated a divorce myself. Got put through the "family law" wringer, and even after all that I was able to build myself back up and now have resources that the ex would shit herself about not having access to.
I'm glad this guy walked away from a dead bedroom, but asking for any kind of advice on Reddit is a complete fail in my eyes. Better resources out there than that place.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
I think the only reason he got any good advice at all on reddit is bleedover from other subs and overall female misbehavior being so fucking pervasive that it is becoming nearly impossible to completely thot control (pun intended) everyone without making it blatantly obvious that they are doing so and risking triggering outright rebellion.
First-light Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I still remember the spring morning I woke up and realised I just needed to do it and divorce my then wife. I remember realising that it didn't matter what it cost me, it was going to be worth it. Even if I had nothing, I would at least be free.
The sooner you do it the sooner you can start to recover. Then never ever marry again. I wake up many days these days thanking the gods I have never given in and signed a marriage contract since.
Solezhtyn 1mo ago
What was so bad that it required the divorce?
user84893093748959 1mo ago
insubordination at any level is reason enough for divorce
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
About owing things ...
I had an exchanges with some tradwomen on FB. And their side is concluding that it is my "social duty" to get married, and if I do not line up and marry up ( I am not Chad) - preferably single mothers, then i am not owed peace and pursuit of prosperity, specifically, then such fatherless children has justification to use violence against me.
At this point I stopped replying because FB policies will kick in, and I will loose access to FB that I mainly use for business.
Future is gonna be interesting.
Pic889 1mo ago
Lol, I'd just ask her where it's written that it is my "social duty" to get married, any response from her after that can only be hilarious.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
oh in some interpretation of the bible. And no, of course karen there does not represent a quarrelsome woman
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
Odd. The Apostle Paul actually said in one of his letters that it's better never to marry.
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
yes, but you see, Karen here is not the quarrelsome woman Paul warned against, She is a "godly" woman forcing you to fulfil "god's expectations" to marry and p̶u̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶e̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ lead a family
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1mo ago
That was King Solomon in the Book of Proverbs :P
sean_karaya Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
my knowledge of religion is rusty. I shall go visit the local church for cakes and refresher
Justanaverageguy 1mo ago
Last single mom I stupidly dated for 3 months never respected me, got mad that I didn’t want to turn my weekend schedule upside down to plan a weekend to go down and meet her kids father and all of us hangout. She wanted me to pay for the hotel and stuff. I told her she’s welcome to go but I didn’t have a reason to meet him and wasn’t going to. She flipped out and ofcourse went off on me how I’m jealous and insecure and now that’s her child’s father and it’s none of my business and how “I’m nothing to her kid”. Guess what happened after that? Yeah she got left, like blocked everywhere possible and left. I never dated a single mom again after that.
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I had a girl want me to attend her family reunion. I said Ok. When I showed up, she expected me to pay for the hotel room she had been in for 2 days before I showed up. I stayed the night. The sex was not good. Never saw her again. I was just a Simp to pay her bills.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1mo ago
It always amazes me how they think accusing men of being insecure (and other variants) will compel us to do their bidding. Just because you're peer pressured to make bad decisions doesn't mean everybody is as weak as you are.
Justanaverageguy 1mo ago
Supposedly I was jealous and insecure of her baby daddy. All I said was I found it weird how she was complaining how he hadn’t been around in 5 months but the moment he reached out wanting to see his daughter I’m supposed to bend my schedule to his. Screw that. Dude is always in and out of their life and I told her if he wanted to see his kid the road goes both directions and it’s only 2 hours. All hell broke loose after that. She broke up with me and called me jealous and insecure and told me I was nothing lol I always suspected she never respected me but I didn’t have proof, I did then though lol
wswZtyqNGQ 1mo ago
A married man with balls!?!? A rare site indeed.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Funny how she could trot out the pussy once there were actual consequences for playing keep-a-way with it. Pretty glaring sign that she didn't give a fuck about making an effort to satisfy his needs until not doing so impacted herself.
This is why I say overt whores are better people than most modern women. The whore is at least honest about her affections being transactional.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I theorize that the this is similar to AF/BB as in desire cannot be negotiated, as in she either has those feral desires to want to fuck, and honestly the hubby just didnt turn her on. Plus why should she try? She got the wedding, pics for Social Media, and assumes she has him trapped. This is what thought I am trying to articulate: When it came to her feral desires for sex, he wasnt it, BUT when she is in danger of losing those resources and his commitment, suddenly she turns back on her sex drive. That sounds like a glorified prostitute, using sex in exchange for tangible value. So basically the theory I am working on is she either digs you to want to fuck, or you are a wallet and she will fuck you just enough to get your commitment and resources. Isnt that AF/BB?
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
More or less. It's why I think even if the marriage laws weren't as predatory against men, no man should marry a woman that he had to put on an "expensive" display to woo, since that indicates her desire is strictly transactional instead of innately desiring him.
If the sex/desire is going to be transactional, may as well stick to whores, better ROI. Less illusions.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
While I agree with the sentiment, I admit for myself when I see "at least she is honest" it makes me think of various podcasts that have a bunch of women on, and the bar is so low that when they out themselves somehow that is seen as a positive step.
We're deep in whoreland, guys. And this is like any other commodity that trades on an open market, when the price spikes to the sky there is a inevitable downturn. I think we're near peak female delusion personally. The cracks are showing (no pun intended), and its a matter of time before the desperation phase begins.
I'm here with my front-row seat, munching on some popcorn.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I'm pretty sure this has happened before. It's part of a cycle. It happened in late Roman empire, ancient Sparta, Wiemar Republic(Germany), Mycenaean Greece, etc. Basically when you mess up gender roles and family structures your society collapses. It all begins with increased rights and visibility for women, then escalates to political extremism, then social tensions and economic instability.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
So fucking true.
Historical parallels also means that there are tough times coming before it turns around. I'm sure the guys here have their shit together, but its going to absolutely wreck a bunch of people who aren't on top of things.
Yet I'm still hopeful for the times after the depression/war/whatever happens.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Yeah but this time it's been accelerated by the pandemic and now AI. And to make it even worse is it coincides with the fourth turning. On the other side we have AGI and fusion power as well as people on Mars but between now and then people are doing fuck all to help those left behind.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Sadly enough because it is. It means a man is a step closer to dispensing of any illusions about what he is dealing with. And for many men, that is their biggest hurdle/enemy, their own illusions about such.
Edit: plus the subtext of "I am not calling the modern woman a whore because a whore is a better person" is deliciously insulting, and amusing to use on proglodytes who are going to have to overcome a spectrum of kneejerk responses to retaliate.
Einsamer 1mo ago
He could also have attempted to see where it leads when he allows her to try to be "sexy" again. It might work for a while and teach him how to correctly power-balance the relationship. Even though his decision is totally valid, it might have taught him more to even try to keep it going. (not sure if it would have had any negative impact on his finances though)
Sometimes those situations are the best to truly learn about male-female power dynamics. And even if it won't work out long term (chances are probably 99%) it might still be worth it for his future self.
What do you guys think?
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I dont like to be the doom and gloom type, but here we are. I think she will do to him the same thing she did before they got married. Fuck and suck his brains out to get what she wants. Before marriage, she probably sucked his dick toward the alter. Now she will do the same to get him to call off the divorce, wait a while and go right back to flipping the off switch of her libido for him. But if she is smart, she will secure her position and make sure she will survive another divorce threat with more resources. Unfortunately for the future child, the biggest extractor of male resources is a child. Guaranteed paycheck for 18 years. If she is really smart and devious she will also start a secret slush fund and hide away money
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I would wager that once the pin was pulled on the divorce grenade, there is no going back. It does not matter who was pulling the pin.
Her advances were just a delaying tactic to try and get her own divorce strategy enacted. Any bets on the kinky sex that would leave bruises? I am sure the police photographer would be happy to record those.....
user84893093748959 1mo ago
truth
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
Or an oops pregnancy to trap him into 18 years of child support slavery.
No, when a woman has clearly shown you what kind of person she is, it is best simply take her at her word/action instead of trying to fix/change her. It's a similar issue to playing Russian Roulette - the problem isn't when you are right, the problem is when you are wrong. And every day with her is a new squeeze of the trigger.
@Einsamer
Einsamer 1mo ago
Fair enough, I guess there are quite some risks. Probably better not to take them, especially since he is most likely still at least partly bluepilled.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
There's no such thing as "compatibility" it's just the ignorance and laziness of the wife. A good wife makes it her top priority to initiate sex and keep things interesting, because she knows every need of her husband and makes it her top priority to meet those needs. A good wife doesn't think of sex as a transaction, but something she joyfully gives anytime because he likes/needs it.
My wife read a wifey book early in our marriage that told her men need sex 2-3 times a week. I saw fit not to contradict that and she took it seriously for 20 years and going, even through having a baby.
This is why I laugh at the concept of being "compatible". This is just dodging the real issues in a marriage.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
And it’s not like women don’t enjoy sex, too. 2 times a week really isn’t asking for much, IMO.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
No matter how chadly one is, this is a tendency of women in a LTR or marriage.
Even if they enjoy sex, it somehow becomes less of a priority. Different reasons for this. It's not even all bad. Men do it too, with other things. I think this is natural and to be expected. You're simply not going to be having as much sex as your honeymoon 40 years later.
But with sex, a woman has to learn it's a lifetime need, and therefore a top priority. In the same way a man may talk less once he's married, but women wouldn't be happy talking once a month, either.
My wife can turn to me for directions/orders/advice or conversation at any time, and takes advantage of this. But in turn, her body is always available to me, day or night.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Basically. Like I’m nearing 40. I’m not as horny as I once was. So the Mrs doesn’t have to be a sex doll to keep me happy. Regular cadence, make me feel appreciated. That’s really it. Crazy how so many women can’t even clear that bar these days.
Justanaverageguy 1mo ago
These women out there dating these days play keep away with the pussy. Even if you’re in a relationship with them they’re withholding sex unless your some toxic Chad from the bar. But if you have any desires or turnons or want to try something…..ewww.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
What's the point of being married if there's no sex? Might as well just have a male roommate paying half the bills...
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1mo ago
And the male roommate is more likely to actually pay their half.
Pic889 1mo ago
Most women are smart enough to tie the man with a baby first and then give him a dead bedroom, this one went frigid immediately which made it an easy decision for the man to dump her (good for him).
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
Nobody owes sex to others (unless one is a prostitute I guess), but each person in a personal relationship owes his/her partner the openness to intimacy, however that looks to them. If you treat sex or physical intimacy in general as a bothersome or repulsive ordeal, you're neglecting the very real human aspects of physical intimacy and connection. Sounds like his wife was withholding and didn't think he'd have the balls to demand more in his life.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
At least in theory, the Christian view of marriage is that each spouse does owe sex to the other, in order not to deprive them:
"The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise the husband also does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Stop depriving one another..."
In regards to sex, therefore, a wife has no right to deny her husband what is rightfully his - her body.
Not trying to preach here, just saying that the historical/religious version of marriage indicates that sex is something perpetually owed.
You can call this prostitution if you want, it's been said in the 'sphere that "all sex is transactional" and there is an element of truth there.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
What's the difference between a woman that marries as a transaction and a prostitute? He basically had a contract prostitute that wasn't holding up her end of the bargain.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1mo ago
Wait? Women don't get do overs after that?
/s
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1mo ago
The idea that I have ever felt "owed" sex is a notion so alien to my way of thinking that the accusation was completely disorienting.
If that were true among men, courtship would look more like the old Icelandic Viking method of sailing down to Ireland and grabbing a few young women off the shore.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
I like to study history and evo psych and I think of situations like that. If there is a shortage of women or even worse, all the women are chasing Chads, and the beta workhorses want their own women and they all decide to raid another village just to get some women and whatever else they can steal. It's dangerous but it's win/win since they come back from a raid with a girl and riches they plundered which also raises their social status. Now the alpha Chads are happy with the way things are, BUT you cant be a leader without followers and you dont want to get left out on the plunder and glory either, so not only does Chad have to go along with this raid, they are also going to be the spearhead to lead the raid less they lose social status by looking like cowards. So now you got this village that could of survived off of fishing, crops and hunting all now building longboats and are going to go hunting for plunder and wives up the Seine River. I say wives because of the pussy shortage back at their village, that they are going to grab a woman and take them home as a war bride and give them the commitment, resources and protection. I just wonder if they did a ceremony when they got back so the girl knows that she is now married since it is going to take a while to learn the language.
NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1mo ago
No rush on that, ladies, take your time