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Insufferable woman who makes zero effort wonders why she's alone at 40.
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Posted 1y ago in Leftovers - Permalink - Locked - 6.2K Views



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inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I was involved in a conversation the other day with a woman in her 40s (I think - just not sure where in her 40s which will link to a point I want to make).

She is either divorced or going through a divorce and was complaining about men on dating apps (she’d only used one - Facebook. She said because it was free but also from my perspective it’s the lowest effort of all of them if you already have a Facebook profile)

I’ve forgotten why this was even the discussion but she was talking about how she needed to get out and do more because spending and evening “looking at pictures of ugly men” was apparently not a good hobby

If we lived in a world where we could really be honest with women the way we are with men then someone would have told her she is a divorced woman in her 40s with a saggy body (and so I assume kids) - ugly men are your options. That’s who you have to pick from. And so maybe you should have considered that before divorcing your husband.

Caveat is I have no idea why she is getting divorced - might be down to him. But women need to really understand what dating over 40 when your body isn’t on point would be like. If they knew perhaps these marriages would work out more. (And even if their body is on point they are still going to struggle to get someone they think is on their level if they look for similar ages)

She wasn’t helped by the fact that her friends were trying to sabotage her by bad mouthing some of her matches (“he’s too short” etc). Too her credit she is apparently not filtering on height because she is too old for children. Another case of saying the quiet part out loud of course

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

You write "she is a divorced woman in her 40s with a saggy body (and so I assume kids) - ugly men are your options. That’s who you have to pick from."

Plot twist: those 'ugly men' that are swiping on her are actually only interested in a pump and dump! They are posing as interested in LTRs so that they can sample the goods and then move on. Pump, dump and ghost.

The fact that she doesn't realise that is testament to

a) her delusion (comes standard issue with women)

b) the fact that she hasn't been very long in the game (the post 40s divorced woman game on OLD game)

So those 'ugly men' are actually not even an option. They look like an option, because they are swiping on her, but all they want is a smash and dash. And here's a further plot twist: She isn't even their top pick. They are settling. They would much rather be banging some 23 year old, but they are hedging their bets. They take one look at her, a woman in her 40s, and they realise straight away that she is in a buyers market, so they have some leverage.

They will happily bang her a few times, but that's it. If you don't believe me, just read go over to the other site (huuw-ptttt) and read any of the threads which start with 'Whats up with dating after 40???' to get an idea of the tears of the inspins.

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inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I’ve seen some of those posts but never dwelled on that sub. I gather most are from women? Although I expect there are some men whose main complaint would (I assume) be that if they haven’t had any or many LTRs (or in some cases a failed marriage) at that age then most women assume there is something wrong with them

But I expect most are women getting a reality check.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

She "doesn't understand" but boy oh boy, everyone any man with an IQ above room temperature will understand. Every man that she ever met "understood".

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Boosted_Arrow 1y ago

Celsius or Fahrenheit? kek

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GimmeTheUsual Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Its okay, her undertaker will understand when she's laid to rest.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Even her cat understands.

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No-Stress-Cat Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I don't have any major red flags that I could see

Of course not, grandma. Now put your teeth back in, you're drooling all over your cream of wheat.

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AlwaysStoic 1y ago

Her anger at her white neighbour being with a Filipina and NOT HER is delicious. Ozempic (if she has the money), vodka, social isolation and cats beckon.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

We should start marketing a pre-mixed cocktail for women over 40.

1 part Ozempic

Dash of Prozac

1 part Xanax

3 parts vodka

Slim line tonic water

White wine chaser

We can call it Cats & Whine

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I love the racism that these women have. “Why is this man with this brown woman and not me? I’m way better”

Clearly that’s not the case.

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago

She doesn't even want the white dude who's with the Filipina. She's just pissed that she isn't in a position to reject him.

If it wasn't for the Filipina, she'd be saying "OMG THIS DUDE WAS GROSS BUT HE TRIED TALKING TO ME!"

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

That is true x1000

She doesn't want the guy. She wants the guy to want her. She is pissed that nobody wants her.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

White in capital letters. I’ll bet her neighbor is cute and that the writer is a hater. I’ll also bet that she had at least half a dozen serious marriage prospects, which she turned down.

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Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

It always warms my heart to see a woman who has clearly relied upon being able to exploit the goodwill of men for the first half of her life having to face the reality that not even orbiter tier men want anything to do with her for the last half of her life.

Her anguish is an orchestra.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Her anguish is an orchestra, and the symphony playing tonight is called "Loneliness" in D # minor.

If you miss it, you can catch it tomorrow night.

Or any night.

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NotaBene Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Please don't make me play in six sharps

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

You must suffer for your art

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EmpireCrimson 1y ago

That was good for a laugh. She clearly doesn't understand that she is the problem - and reveals her racism along the way. Another bitter Karen in training.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

In training???

I think she has the Advanced Karening PhD

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago

I have a female friend with silly high standards. She doesn't see why she should settle.

I explained that there are very, very, very few tall, successful, well hung, charming, good looking single men out there and a lot of women in her position (over 30, fairly attractive).

She agreed.

She agrees there aren't enough men to go around.

She agrees that a man like that has a lot of options, and that most women in her position won't get to lock one down.

........... and at the end of the conversation she said "but I just don't see why I should settle".

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Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago

"but I just don't see why I should settle".

These women believe-- all the way down to their bones-- that men NEVER make any compromises in their relationships. Of course that's nonsense, but she's in a place of extreme ignorance and doesn't want to step outside of it for long. She's like the celebrity chef who flies in to some famine zone for a day and wonders why the people there aren't preparing vegan eggplant-goat cheese cannelloni in their luxury kitchens and pairing it with a full-bodied Tempranillo-Grenache blend.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Matty, you can't really convince those kinds of women to see sense. It's a waste of time and effort. In reality, you should really just tell her

"You're right sis - never settle! You're special, and your prince will come. You just got to put yourself out there."

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago

And........ "Just be yourself!"

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Don't forget to tell her "If they can't tolerate you at your worst, they dont' deserve you at your best"

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mattyanon TRP Endorsed 1y ago

Awesome plan, ideally say this while fucking her friends

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

ideally do a 3 some, with her best friend and her sister, post it on the internet, and then ride off on your motorcycle. They love it when you do that.

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ChopHopper 1y ago

Men should never encourage women to settle. When a woman settles for a man, eventually she is going to resent that man. Then she's either going to divorce him or make his life a living hell in a cheaper to keep her marriage.

At the end of the movie Casablanca, Bogart's character Rick tells Bergman's character Ilsa that she will regret staying with him, "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life." He loved her but let her go because he knew deep down she was settling for him.

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Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago

but I just don't see why

Cause she's a princess and deserves the world, duh.

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago

Even when it comes to friendship with other women it's hard.

What a tell. Sure, I wouldn't think she would manage to make and keep good friends, but to have no friends at all? How insufferable must one be to - oh, she declares herself as more attractive than any other woman who has a boyfriend/husband. Never mind.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago

I don't have THAT bad of a personality

Your results say otherwise.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

yet whenever I like someone, they turn out to not like me as much as I like them

And there’s the answer to everything. Just another woman who thinks that the kind of man that she can keep is equal to the kind of men that she can get sex from.

I can find many men who will gladly sleep with a 40 year old woman. Everything from senior citizens to college dudes, and of course, other 40 year old men. But most of those men aren’t going to stick around for her.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

correction.....NONE of those men are going to stick around for her.

I love banging milfs. It's great fun. If I were single now, I'd be banging as many milfs as I could. But I would have zero desire in taking one on as an LTR project.

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Problematic_Browser Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Sucks to suck I guess.

I have as much empathy for post wall women as they had for average men during their sexual prime.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Apart from anything else, you can often tell its a woman writing just down to the indiscipline of the writing style. The giveaways are everywhere;

  • The way she flits in-between tenses. It's horrible. For example "I don't have any red flags that I could see" (mixing present plus past tense).

  • She does this stream of consciousness syntax where she just abandons an argument midway and interrupts it with some other nonsense.

  • Her convoluted phrasing and double negatives, for example: "I don't fall for anyone that easily I think...I used to not be like that..." What did you not used to be like?

Clarity and meaning are male interests. Women are very unclear when they speak or write, because they are not interested in clarity. They are interested in feelings and making lots of mouth noises.

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ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 1y ago

I love the shaming language "they aren't ready to fight for our union!" Translated that means he wasn't willing to compromise on his own needs / priorities / values in order to accommodate hers.

Good on those guys. Why should a guy "fight" for anything with her in the beginning parts of the dating phase? He's not "unable" to fight for a union, he simply sees no value in this union that's worth fighting for. Either because it's too early, or because he already sees you as a pump-n-dump. Either way, it has nothing to do with readiness or ability.

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polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago

This is part of the reversal that wall women experience: When they first were dating, they could play the filter game and reject men for the slightest of reasons and "next!" them. He didn't smile at her first joke? He's emotionally unavailable! Next!

The men that remain of interest to her have figured out how to enjoy an abundance mindset like she did. He learns how to behave himself on the first few dates in order to get her into the sack and after that, it's all gravy for him. Marriage is a liability to him so there's no reason for him to "fight" for the relationship. SHE is expected at that point to reel in her expectations and demands and the men instead of trying to nurse her expectations down slowly and reasonable may just decide to cut bait and go for the next MILF hottie. Plenty of fish in the sea.

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redblow22 1y ago

I'd bet the rent that the Filipina neighbor is HAF, and the OP is wildly jealous.

"Is that the sound of the bobtail delivering my palletized wine and kitty litter?"

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

Funny, in my mind's eye the Filipina neighbour was totally mid, like a 5. Not tall, not beautiful. But the neighbour guy has tried his luck with American sluts and just knows that they are toxic. So he is trying his luck as a passport bro.

The funny thing about the foreign girls that you see settling down with western guys is that many of them are not that hot. It drives the domestic feminist sluts crazy.... they shout things like

  • She's not even that hot!!!!
  • She doesn't even have a degree!!!
  • She doesn't even speak English properly, she has an accent!
  • She's about 5 foot tall and 60 kilos!!!
  • What do guys even see in women like that!!!

I'll tell you what they see in them....they see a woman that isn't a toxic cunt, a woman that doesn't actually hate men AND sleep with dozens of them, and a woman that doesn't hate her self.

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hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

I’d take normal looking and friendly over a physically attractive cunt any day of the week. Like you’re choosing a wife? They’ll all be ugly eventually. Even if you don’t plan on marrying, I’d assume you’d want a woman that you can see yourself with indefinitely, right? So a toxic bitch has no value in that regard. She’s only going to add more headache over time.

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Lone_Ranger Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword 1y ago

could not agree more. Guys that spend their lives trying to LTR / marry hotties eventually get what they deserve.

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inevitableowl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago

Could be. Or could be using Hoe Math’s logic of women see all other women as 10s (in public) except those who are 8+ because they conform to “patriarchal beauty standards”

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