Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
polishknight
Posted 12mo ago in Epiphany Phase - Permalink - Locked - 9.2K Views
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
How is it a numbers game for women? They can be as picky as they want and still get matches and dates. I can see a few flakes, a few mismatched relationship goals, maybe a catfish here and there, some bots to keep you coming back, but ultimately they have plenty of options and after 4 months you'd think they would learn to weed out and select good men... I'm guessing it's her and not the guys.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Er, that's sort of the joke I was making. She thinks of it as a "numbers game" in that she'll get so many dates and matches in her "funnel", that eventually FrankenChad or her SoulMate will pop into it. It's like playing the lottery every day in the hopes you'll eventually win the megamillions jackpot. It HAS to happen if you play every day, yes?
Women often don't understand numbers when emotion is involved. PERSONAL story about my wife: She has an engineers degree and got better grades in math than me. She said if she won the lottery and got 400 million dollars, she could solve national poverty by giving everyone in the USA (400 million population) a million dollars. For fun, I asked my 7 year old daughter how much she could give 400 million people out of 400 million dollars and she gave the correct answer almost immediately. But women often handle personal math like Dustin Hoffman's character in Rainman.
yaxir 8mo ago
tell her to go back to school lol
mattyanon TRP Endorsed 12mo ago
The huge difference for women is that they get attention, paid-for--dates, and countless offered. They literally get paid for playing this lottery.
Imagine as a guy if you had to "suffer" being asked out on dates, being taken on dates by the hottest of your offers, being fed and given drinks, have girls ask to have sex with you, and knowing that in the long term eventually a marriable girl will show up.
AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT
No-Stress-Cat 12mo ago
Can't upvote this enough.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 12mo ago
Well, yeah! She used too much teeth when she blew me!
Oddest-One-Here 12mo ago
She's an engineer and her maths is that bad, I hope she's not designing things that could put lives at risk. (400,000,000/400,000,000 = $1)
EDIT: Added put
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Can you give us location pins of all the bridges that your wife was involved in building? Its just that we might want to plan alternate routes in our GPS. Thanks in advance for your understanding.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 12mo ago
Tagging @polishknight, as this reply was really directed at him. And I second this.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Happy Monday, gentlemen.
It's my contention/theory that when women have some personal stake in something, such as politics or men, their brain goes fuzzy-wuzzy. To reassure all of you that it's safe to drive on bridges: She works as a QA test engineer for a government contractor looking to nitpick and find mistakes in applications which she's quite good at (because otherwise, she's nitpicking me!)
And yes, I knew the correct answer so nobody need point it out. My 7 year old girl already has provided it.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 12mo ago
I'm sure she still finds time and energy to do that!
I just nitpick right back at mine.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 12mo ago
Women can literally schedule a date every day if not two days (assuming their schedule allows for it) and filter out men very quickly for second dates.
They can literally select for "good" men if they really wanted to, but instead they're going out with men, knowing a guy won't be a committable Chad to her, letting him hit after the first date (maybe cockteasing him till the second date max before letting him hit) and rinsing and repeating the process to no avail
Women have such incredibly low discipline for filtering for what matches their goals, they are in the race for what they are looking for but then stopping at every unnecessary checkpoint they can, thus letting everyone else pass or lap them until their are no "good" men left
Edit: not throwing shade on men that won't commit, just saying she's not using "numbers game" as intended and thus failing at it
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Woman divorces her husband and is shocked that the dating market isn’t as easy for her as it was before. That and more news at 11.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 12mo ago
I'm always astonished that women somehow don't realize "divorced" on its own with no additional context or details is a massive deal-breaker to most men without even considered looks even
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
"I have a documented history of bad decisions when it comes to relationships, why won't men offer me a ring now?"
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 12mo ago
"so what if I took his kids and his house? You should love me for me because I'm amazing"
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah, I mean if I’m older and find myself single, I would date a divorced woman if she were attractive and pleasant enough. But if she thinks I’m offering full commitment, she’s nuts. There better be a damn good sob story, and i’d like the version from her ex-husband as well. For the most part, a man that was “worthy” of marriage (which already means he’s likely above average) offering her full commitment wasn’t enough for her.
A man offering full commitment in the form of marriage is basically swearing off his biological urge to have sex with as many women as possible in order to best provide for and protect his wife. Her thanks was to divorce him for what’s likely some sort of trivial personality flaw or general boredom.
But it basically all revolves around how I wouldn’t even want to mess with women who are 30+. Either they’ve never married, which makes it likely that they’re a complete train wreck to deal with, or they’ve divorced and it’s likely that they’ll screw over the next man who offers commitment.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Reminds me of a simple maxim:
What she did to other guys, she'll do to you.
(A variant on "its just your turn")
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
It’s the same thing as the bad boy that women keep falling for. They didnt care if they hurt someone before, why would they care now?
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 12mo ago
Right. My current plate (with a brief and extremely unexpected internet search that she hasn't told me about yet) had some serious trauma happen to the dude she was with who had her kid (or at least I assume is the father based on the news articles description of them.)
I take it that probably had some serious impact on their relationship and wasn't anyone's fault but the sick fuck that did it. Who knows if that's why they broke up, but I could understand if it was.
So yeah, I can actually see some cases where some events will definitely just severely major kill a relationship. There were probably other incompatibilities that happened but I actually felt genuinely horrible for her when I stumbled on that news article.
She hasn't personally told me about it so I can only speculate why they split. So yeah some of these sob stories are out there and legit. The rest are just lack of discipline and interpersonal failure.
Still wouldn't commit though, single mom and red flags besides that. Extremely nice woman though, she takes care of me pretty damn well when we hang out
Yup. Instead of actually working on their relationship problems after condemning him to a lifetime of sex negotiation they split (some husbands are genuine scum but I'd take most marriage failures are based on a cascade of other stuff that could and should have been addressed during or BEFORE the marriage)
I'm 30. A lot of my recent lays are about 30-31.
And you're right. I've noticed that the ones that have been married are just fucked. Mentally and situationally.
And the ones that aren't married by 30 are also just fucked. They are permanent carousel riders who don't know what they're doing wrong.
I have yet to fuck or plate a 30 year old woman who somehow just had bad luck and zero personal blame for her situation. They're all fucked from no marriage or bad marriage and they're all different to fuck than the 20-somethings. You can tell they're pining for more instead of just wanting their holes filled for fun
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
I dated back in the 1990's what I referred to as Corporate Nuns. Back then, few knew how to use the internet and these women, often quite attractive, had low body counts because they were married to their job. They went to work (where men faced being fired for SH if they made the wrong approach), then shopping, and then home. Lather, rinse, repeat for 12 years. They reach an age where they realize that Prince Charming isn't going to make a Hollywood Movie approach so they went to matchmakers.
I, looking back at myself, foolishly demanded they pay for their way on a date and these women balked. They'd rather die alone than pay their way but other than that, I had a chance to pull in a 7 while women otherwise rate me a 4. These women also would have pulled in money meaning that their ability to divorce rape me was low. Otherwise, these women were actually good marriage material compared to most single women today: They didn't have tattooes or face piercings and had body counts. One was even a virgin!
In the post dating app world, though, such women are probably now rare. The dating agency coach back then was flustered with these corporate nuns demands.
Onetwothree123 12mo ago
Are tyou alking about Poland?
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
In my adventures of online dating, I will say that there are still quite a few corporate nuns out there. We just don’t notice them because it’s the strong and independent girls that we notice; the ones who work the jobs but also date around like they are Chad (except for all the actual Chad’s pumping and dumping them).
I was talking to a corporate nun before meeting my girl. She was…nice. Looked good for an older woman (was actually 4 years my senior). We shockingly had a lot of shared values. But she was just naturally not that affectionate and seemed to have no idea about how to romantically interact with men. Seemed like men just ended up friend zoned by her as a default. I’d imagine a man who married her, she’d rush to get one kid out (with many trips to the fertility doctor), and then the sex would basically stop because she truly is not interested. But hey, at least she isn’t a pain in the ass and would contribute her share of the financial load. So maybe she’s not single now, who knows?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
The corporate nuns despite their seemingly “independence” want the “romantic” experience of the man seducing them but are too masculine in their lifestyle to submit. That’s my theory, anyway. I thought to myself that if I didn’t marry a foreign woman, I would have developed some PUA to perhaps pull in an American CN with a sizable chuck of change and get myself an old fashioned “dowry”. After all, if they divorce me, I could come after THEM for money and they hate that. :-)
That is what I think the next level of redpill awareness is: Turning the dating paradigm around where a redpill or CHAD guy doesn’t just want to get bedroom fun, but actually get women to start paying the bills.
My own experience with a corporate nun is they are sexually deprived but not frigid. It’s sort of like trying to start up a car engine that’s sat for 6 months. Actually, once mine got started… she was quite enthusiastic. But since she was my first, my inexperience caused me to flub it. She was taller and better educated so her hypergamy kicked in. I gave off some beta vibes and it was all over. In hindsight, things turned out ok for me so no regrets.
Corporate nuns do have value in this dysfunctional RMV marketplace: They have low body counts, are emotionally vulnerable, often bring something financial to the table, and even have interesting personalities. It just requires some level of game to close the deal and, of course, to see how many are left out there.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah. Overall I wouldn’t recommend them, though. Unless you find one with baby rabies that is willing to take on any man with decent character out of desperation to have a family.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
We both dated back in the 90s. Strange coincidence we're both now married to foreign women...
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
I made a joke to my fiancé that the stereotypical rich white guy is married to a non-American woman. When she asked why, I was like “why would you marry an American woman when you have the choice?”. 8+ who actually appreciates you or an average at best who thinks she’s owed stuff for having a birth canal. Tough
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
The downside to hypergamy when you're an alpha female, lol. It's pretty shocking when I hang with my friends who married American women, or the horror stories of divorced men. Like they literally have to ask their wife for permission to do something, the wife has awful behaviour, and they are high maintenance fat cows.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 12mo ago
I.e.: I'm an empty person who cannot find joy in my own company; please entertain me.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Its really interesting to me how men can be fine pursuing their own hobbies/interests "alone", while a woman melts down if she doesn't have someone else to talk to in a 24 hour stretch, maybe less.
It truly makes me believe that women need men, and not the other way around.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
"I'm tired of buying all my own meals and paying to get things fixed. I miss all the freebies from having a man in the house."
NotaBene Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
What does this Karen actually want? Something "real"? You mean like you had with your husband when you married him? The "couple dynamic"? You mean a man to order around, a house slave that provides money and does chores whenever you make a honey-do list?
A woman seeking her own happiness above all else can never be happy. This one cries herself to sleep every night.
"The system is perfectly designed to deliver the results you are getting." In this case, aimless dating with no quantifiable goals only leads to a lifetime of loneliness, cats, and wine.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yup. She had something real. She left him.
She didn’t say her age, but I’m assuming that she’s a little older. Probably in her 30’s. She’s getting exactly what 30-something year old divorced women deserve, which is a lot of pump and dumps. She’s at best a girlfriend for a divorced man about 20 years her senior. Committing to her offers nothing. Not even her loyalty.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
I like the house slave analogy. It's a great counter-argument to when women say men just want a woman as a house slave to cook, clean, etc.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
"I was married before, so I guess that became my family"
Wow. I don't really need to provide commentary here, just highlight what this women is actually saying. Just wow.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Stage 5 Clinger Alert!
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
This woman is experiencing what I call the "Vagina Carousel".
She doesn't give her age, but I would guess its about mid 30s. Lets say 36-38 (average age to get married in London as middle class educated is 33, so takes a while to get divorced). No kids, because she would have told us that they were 'her world'.
What happens is this - ordinary women reject ordinary guys in favour of chads in their valuable period (17-30). It takes them a while to realise that they are not hot property any more, but when they do finally realise that chad aint calling no more, they pivot to trying to find a beta bux nice guy to finance their post wall life style. They lower their standards (so humiliating!!!) and start to considers guys that aren't over 6'4, rich models.
The smart post 30s non-chads know what is going on. This is their moment. They see armies of post wall women signing up to OLD, looking for beta bux, and these women are rich pickings. They were deprived of pickings in their 20s, so they got their heads down and focused on their careers. Now its harvest time. All you need to do if you are smart non-chad is pretend that you are in the market for a post wall woman. You just need to put up a profile which says that you're looking to settle down and that you're keen to start a family. Then you meet up .... you'll have to listen to a lot of nonsense and buy dinner, but as quickly as possible, you convert them to plate. And then get a few plates on the go, and voila, you've got a roster. Then its all about time management. The plates will get more and more demanding, wanting more of your time and resources. All plates break, so you get new ones. That's how it goes.
This woman doesn't realise her role in all of this. She can only ever be a plate. She might be able to get a divorced man of 55 and up to marry her, but she has clearly not realised her true SMV yet, so she's not going to consider that....until its too late. When she is 48 and totally out of money, she'll consider a divorced guy off 55, but he'll already be excluding her in his OLD sliders! he'll be browsing the selection of 36-39 year olds.
BTW ...that guy that 'had to move out of London'? Yeah, he's totally still in London.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
That's more or less what I witnessed when I was that age back in the 1990's. I never managed to get a lot of plates going, but I certainly didn't feel a need to marry and settle down quickly on the biological-clock-ticker's schedule because that's what she needed. Just as women could demand that a (normal) man prove himself by waiting for intimacy and paying for dates, I and other such men could insist upon some bedroom fun and a "situationship" for a year, or two, before thinking about marriage. Once they have sex with someone such as me, their bargaining chip is gone. They can't call me "incel!" after I've had sex with them.
Which is a tough position for them to be in that if it takes 2 years or so for a reasonable man to decide to marry and have kids with a 30+ year old woman, that means her window is incredibly small. 2 or 3 guys at most and she'll probably wind up childless. It's like trying to cram for 3 exams 2 days before finals. Some of the women I went on dates with tried to "job interview" me to demand I prove myself of marriage material so she wouldn't 'waste her time" but then, all she would do is scare off the best prospects just as a guy who sends D-picks over the phone to a girl who expresses interest in them.
It's not "game over" for a woman in her 30's (and I'll tell my daughter this) but it's sort of like playing Mario Bros on level 1 for 10 years and then suddenly it goes up to level 10.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Level 10 on Kaizo Mario World. Technically winnable, but the difficulty and frustration inherent to doing so is best avoided.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
News flash: They all ended up childless and alone. Go check them out on facebook. All of my exes hit the wall hard and splatted. I think hell would be preferable to a lifetime with those women.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Or they end up a "born again" single mom that not even bloopies in church that she hoped would be her bailout will touch. It's hilarious seeing the feeds of women that one knows for an absolute fact were handed multiple chances to get off the carousel but refused them, go splat.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
I recall a woman griping that her exes were checking her out (she called it "orbiting") when she saw facebook ask her if she was interested in "friending" them meaning that they had checked her out.
I'll confess I did the same in that I was curious to see what happened and it was gratifying to see that the only woman (first love) who dumped me and didn't come crawling back wound up as a single mother. One other wound up back in my bed and then annoyed me until she made me throw her out. Others nearly always reached out to me. They all hit the wall.
As you say, the irony is that if they had played their cards right, I probably would have been a loyal beta to them and I think they'd have been better people too. The thing is, by the time they wised up, I could date better and younger and prettier women so I did.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah I think the default state of men is to develop oneitis for a hottie in their teens. Women found an exploit for this in the form of the battle of the sexes. The majority of us became slaves for a few decades. Some of us wised up. You can't just put men on hold all through their twenties and expect them to be waiting to wife up a 30yr old used up hoe having her epiphany phase. Eventually we all started talking to one another and here we are with red pill.
Anyway, I gotta go enjoy my non-Western, non-fat, non-hoe, non-combative, anti-feminist wife and red pilled sons :). This next decade is going to be wild. My 8yr old told me one of his classmates told a bratty girl to stop being such a Karen.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Given what one can infer from her post about her, she needs to realize that there isn't much of a marriage market for 30+ year old divorced career women.
Especially not on what women will try to pass off as using OLD apps, but are really just meat market hookup apps like Tinder. Gonna get a bunch of guys not interested in committing on those venues, and definitely not to to women like her.
The problem is most of them are trying to hold out for a top 5-10% man while being nowhere near that bracket of woman. Just being over 30 and divorced is enough to put most women in the under 50% bracket. But they think they can pull the same sort of man as they could when they were a 19 yr old debt free virgin with no tattoos.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Guys have been wising up. The pool of men is drying up. The owners of tinder/bumble/okcupid/etc, Match group, is down 54% in one year. Down 67% in 5 years.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
This gives me hope for men in the future.
If we keep applying the pressure these women will have to recognize their stupid bullshit is driving men away.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
It's weird though because it doesn't make them change. They just double down. They "stupid bullshit" harder.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
I googled it! Wow! You're right. Astonishing. They make money from thirsty men paying for upgrades only to either get their wallets leached by "foodie calls" or hit with bots and scammers and Only Friends come ons.
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woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 12mo ago
Comment removed for rule 1 violation.
Come on, dude; you've been around plenty long enough to know better.
RedPirate751 12mo ago
Holy shit, I wasn't aware how hard the dating app market was crashing!
They over-monetized and over-algorithmed. "Normal" guys (as in, regular AFCs) started to realize what was going on and left. The algorithm continues filtering, making the disparity even greater. It's a death spiral.
The funny thing is, if they were to go back to the old "formula" that Tinder had back in the first half of the 2010s they'd probably make bank. Get rid of the swipe limits, stop filtering who can see who (why the hell does dating need ELO matching) and just let people run wild. Show an ad every 10 swipes or something and charge people to get rid of them. Boom.
They'll just continue on the current course though. Before long, every single app will be a gallery of OnlyFans profiles. Only the saddest of people will actually try to use them.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
They may change course. They just shit-canned the strong, independent woman CEO responsible for Tinder gold... and replaced her with a man. https://ir.mtch.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors/person-details/default.aspx?ItemId=1172a4d2-3c47-4a73-8735-c1f4c36c0262
Just another go woke, go broke business failure. ELO matching works great for women and awful for men. A fattie chick can get swiped right 1000x more than a fattie guy. So now a fattie chick is matched with a hottie guy who has 1000x more right swipes than other guys.
RedPirate751 12mo ago
Just looked it up and the incoming CEO is coming from Zynga, the OG of the phone app micro transaction model. Shits not going to get better lol.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah I agree. We've reached a point where the collective experience of men is now irreversible. I just watched Clarey do a show about men "quietly quitting" women IRL. He calls it the rat shit in the punch bowl effect. All the #metoo stuff, false rape allegations, etc is the rat shit and the sisterhood is the punch bowl. Meanwhile his audience is giving field reports of prom being cancelled because no guys asked any girls out. Dating is non-existent in high school now. College guys avoid any contact with college women. On and on.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Followup comment on the forum was amusing: "The problem is the concept of OLD is too intentional. When you meet someone in the wild by happenstance you typically cultivate a relationship that you weren't looking for and is unexpected. Less pressure. When you go on a first date with someone you match with from OLD, the whole purpose of the meeting is to find a person who can be a potential partner. So even without realizing it we are assessing this stranger for compatibility immediately. No one can measure up to that. So we all end up disappointed and this leads to people who flake, ghost, let situationships go on too long, or even don't give someone a fair shot. I think it's just an unnatural way to go about it but it's the world we live in."
Women live in this reality where they think, quote, relationships happen by "happenstance" where the guy comes up and asks something, says the perfect things, and all of that was natural. Except for the "creeps" who dump some lines on her, of course. Essentially, "old fashioned dating" was a form of quality acting by men. Men didn't enjoy romance but rather a series of rejections (sometimes crushing) until they got a woman that was "decent enough" to finally agree to a date and then if she didn't have devil horns, would wife her up.
Feminism and economics KILLED old fashioned dating and buried it in the backyard: Sexual Harassment legislation, women who give cruel rejections, discouraged men from even trying to practice the "natural" approach. It's like expecting some kid to become a major league baseball player the first day he picks up a catcher's mitt. It takes years of practice and support which men today don't get.
OLD dating, despite its faults, has at least removed the personal rejection burden from men hence why many men spam hundreds of women with "matches" on dating apps.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
People forget the business model of OLD is a marketing term called "churn". You get the emotional high of a match and then the low of rejection/bad match. To maximize profits you never give people a good match, otherwise you lose 2 customers.
I just got on tinder to see why it's stock has plummeted 54% in the past year. I set my filter to ages 18-28. At first I'm presented with a few hotties and then it's nothing but fat chicks. After rejecting 98% of the women for being fat, it tells me there is nobody else. I'm immediately reminded that the hotties are fake profiles and only fat chicks use OLD. I then delete the app.
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 12mo ago
Yeah these sites chose to maximize what is essentially a short term profit strategy; while forgetting that if there is no hope of a decent payout ever, men with enough resources to be profitable will just stop showing up because they have better options.
Basically services that act like women do end up like women do. Broke and alone.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
Yeah I can't even remember how many bars in Thailand went out of business using that model. You'd just see them sitting there empty with some bar girls trying to get men to buy them overpriced girly drinks. Any guy that strayed in figured it out pretty fast and never went back. 50ft down the road there's another bar with actual prostitutes and then another 50ft down a bar with actual girls.
GimmeTheUsual Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
I've been approached by a real working girl before in a club - but I have to say, I respected the hustle "Want some professional love?"
It was up front and I could say yes or no.
But I totally get going somewhere that its just regular chicks. I guess when you dress it up like there's some personal connection but its just bullshit is where it all goes wrong. Look, you're a slut who fucks for money, either tell me that (as a working girl) or whatever.
Of course, gold-diggers are a whole other story, and princesses that want everything except fucking, but I digress...
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 12mo ago
The bar girls are 100% gold diggers. When you get to the bars with actual girls they are usually just party girls. If you want a normal chick you can have a connection with you just pick up the bank teller :).