Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
Loneliness-inc
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
- 4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
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8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Here's the best quote:
".....Who knows how old and less worthy I'll be when I finally decide maybe I do want someone?"
This is both comedy and tragedy in one sentence. It describes almost exactly the modern womans' future. She will get to a certain age where she feels like settling down (money is getting tight, nobody wants to even bang her anymore) THEN she will decide that maybe I do want to settle down;
I'd just like to find that special person I don't want to die alone, I see old couples together and they're just so cute, I want someone to share my dreams with etc etc etc.
Doesn't work like that. You can't wait till you have literally negative value in a market place and then decide its time to sell and get all bent out of shape when there are no bidders. It's like listing a home for sale after it's burnt to the ground. Women seem to do this all the time, not just in the dating market. They plan seems to be 'I'll cross that bridge when I come to it'. There is literally no strategy, no planning, no forethought.
Those happy couples you see in their 40s, 50s, 60s and beyond....they got together when they both had the same value.
Has anyone else noticed that women give each other the shittiest advice you'll ever hear? There is a whole industry of women in the 'lifestyle' business, writing coaching books, blogs, podcasts which just seem to say;
Do what you feel is right follow your dreams If it feels right, its right listen to your heart Don't settle for second best live your dreams Unleash the princess (because you're worth it)
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Regarding women's advice: I remember this comedian who made the joke about a privileged westerner advising some poor starving kid in a third world country: "Try chewing your food with more bites, so it will last longer." Women who live in such delusional entitlement bubbles think they're the bees' knees but in reality, they have no business advising anyone, much less other women. I see some (well meaning) and sympathetic women advising men on dating women, but this is from their idealistic worldview of how men should act rather than what's in the best interests of men.
On the other hand, for the men out there in the trenches, I think his is a golden era of retrospection in western civilization on par with that of the 18th and 17th centuries. Yes, we're doing this on the internet and it's thousands of us, but compare and contrast that to some guy who maybe had to spend days setting type by hand and printing out single page leaflets at an inflation adjusted cost of a buck each.
A guy who can't start a family or have a happy home life is as revolutionary as some colonist griping about paying a tax on a cup on tea. In many ways, it's far more primal.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Everyone already said what I wanted to say, but this reminds me of a meme I've been sitting on. Stay tuned!
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Waiting impatiently
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
https://www.forums.red/p/whereareallthegoodmen/319052/weekend_meme_about_single_moms_who_are_finally_ready_to_sett
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Thanks!
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 1y ago
Hells yeah
chunky 1y ago
Wait till the daughter is 18. Then cut out the middleman.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Middle aged woman who weighs more than a man.
DextroShade 1y ago
0 fucks given. You want a man go crawling back to your baby daddy. If he's not an option then you fucked up and you fucked up your kid.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
Yeah but, like, how was she supposed to know what he was actually like before getting into bed with him? She's not a telepath or mind-reader or whatever.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
If only there was some method by which a woman could secure a man's commitment before she spreads her legs for him... or some way to prevent pregnancy if she decides to have sex without securing his commitment... or some way to abort the child before it's born if she decides not to carry it to term... or some way to give it up for adoption if she decides not to abort...
If only...
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
If only.....
If only someone taught these women about how babies are made and about all these structures....
If only we didn't live in a third world shithole backwater, where none of this knowledge is known....
Oh wait....
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Just ignore how many other prior baby mommas he treated the exact same way, trend analysis is a tool of the patriarchy! MANIFEST YOUR TRUTH!
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
Exactly!
The overwhelming majority of breakups and divorces, don't have to happen. They can actually reconcile, if they took it seriously.
But alas, many people - especially wymynZ - don't take it seriously.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Good advice. Why didn't baby daddy want to stick around? Rather than just saying 'some men are just trash, and I got a bad one'... how about asking the questions? Why did it go bad? why did he leave? Are you a woman that is difficult to be around? Are you combatative? Did you challenge him for alpha status? Do you undermine him? Do you nag and criticise? Are you a massive pain in the arse? Did you detract from his life rather than add to his life? Did you make his life harder rather than easier? Did you look down on him as a beta guy just because he was being faithful to you while he was with you (very common!)? Did you hate him because he was a useless simp (loved you)?
Are you even able to do any any self analysis?
I suspect not - which means that you will never learn. It will be rinse repeat for ever.
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
How often is it him who leaves? How often is it her who leaves?
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
If they were in a marraige where the guy was making a substantial sum, you can bet your bottom dollar that it was the woman that left. In the UK/USA, the incentives to divorce once a guy is making over 150k, there are kids that are dependent and the woman is not working, the incentives are so high that its amazing that the divorce rate is not 100%.
The courts will award you a lump sum bonus of about $500k (the family home) plus a monthly income stream that will have a net present value of at least $500k. So... why would you stay married to some boring husband when the courts will give you an instant $1m bonus for leaving?
I just don't understand how we still have people wondering why more than 50% of marriages end in divorce. Its as if they don't realise that incentives modify behaviour.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Honest advice to this woman:
1) focus on your kid like you have been. Your daughter is priority #1. That’s good. Keep it like that.
1a) find a way to make it work with her father if possible and
1b) if 1a is impossible, make sure he’s highly active in her life. Ideally a 50/50 time split so that she has mommy and daddy.
2) the things you’ve seen are true. You even point out yourself that your daughter is #1 (as discussed before). That’s a good thing, but for a man, that means that there’s a whole different child that isn’t his, that his life would have to revolve around. He wants a home? An extra bedroom will run $30,000-$50,000 so that a kid that isn’t his can live there. $150-$300 a month for food (and I’d argue more, because there’s no way I’m eating well off of $300 a month). Trip to Disney world will cost more. And so on. Not to mention that there’s another man that you have to deal with, a man that you bore a child with.
So yes, with all of that in mind, you have a lot more baggage than a woman without kids. Which makes you far less desirable.
3) humility can actually help you. Basically the only ways to get a man is to be grateful for a guy that has his act together and not act like a hypergamous reptilian. Top 20% dudes have a lot of women to choose from, and you’re almost certainly not in the top 20% of desirable options. Especially when you mention that your beauty is fading (wall) and that your social skills have eroded. You might have to accept an average man and be willing to be submissive to him, in order to have one. You’re not going to get higher than your baby daddy.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
All I'm reading is that she's permanently screwed. Oh no! Anyway...
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Because she selected for tingles rather than character it's likely that she won't even get a man with comparable SMV as her baby-daddy, although he will have higher MMV.
Lucky him... he gets an old broad with a bastard daughter and a crapload of bills. In return he gets duty sex when she feels like it... which won't be often, because she'll feel like she "settled" for the sake of her kid. Hopefully she destroys all the sex tapes, or he may end up like the, "Saving the Best" guy, except the kid he'll be paying her to raise won't even be his own.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
That was KA's mantra - "You're not going to get higher than your baby daddy"
But I think that was unrealistically optimistic. Because the baby daddy is not now in the picture. And he had the incentive to be in the picture, so that he could be a part of his child's future.
If KS was going to be honest, he should have said -
"You will never be able to get a man as high as your baby daddy - that was the highest you will ever have had - and you blew it. So...you need to adjust downwards"
Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1y ago
But if he really loooooooooooooooooooooooooves her...... he'll do all that and more without expecting anything in return. Because that's what hiGh vaLuE mEnZiEzz do.
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
On the stage of grief, the final one is acceptance. If she can get through it, she has a chance of setting reasonable standards and trying to offer something other than looks she knows are quickly aging. This puts her ahead of the curve of more attractive, younger, single mothers who are in denial thinking they're even HOTTER than they were in their youth.
I wish her the best because if she puts in an effort to offer something to an average guy and settles down, that a win-win for all concerned. Finally, word is getting out. It took long enough.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
One of the worst aspects of social media is teaching women that their attractiveness has nothing to do with what men think. Think of how insane that is. It’s like if we were telling men to not go to the gym, sit at home, smoke weed and play video games, and to ignore all the women who say that’s a problem.
Lone_Ranger Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
oooh - I think you're onto something! We need to start creating some tik toks about how the world needs to accept us as we are, and that we 'deserve' to sit around playing CoD smoking pot and eating pringles 'because we're worth it'. Maybe later we can post some pictures of our asses on social media while wearing tight jeans? And then bitch about any comments that people make (so demeaning!!!! We're not just pieces of meat!!!) Anywayz - you go KING! just be true to yourself and realise how amazing you are!!!! Don't workout - just eat junk and smoke pot!!!
By the way, where have all the good women gone?
polishknight WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
It's not just social media. "Liberation" and "Independence" means that a woman treats men as disposable and that the men are "privileged" to please her. Even my mother's generation back in the late 1950's were saying things such as "It's not a woman lucky to have a successful man, but rather the successful man is lucky to have her" meaning that a man who puts in hard work and effort is supposed to consider himself just "keeping up" with a woman who wakes up in the morning.
In the 1980's, a woman friend of mine told me that her clique regularly said "I don't need or want marriage" even if they didn't mean it because the other women would shame her as "desperate" or "weak". Heck, even many men advise their daughters to "play hard to get" rather than having honest conversations with men about her intentions.
Combined with movie images of relationships happening via "spontaneity" and superhero themes, "real men" are supposed to have no personal needs or wishes of our own. Pornography was criticized as setting unrealistic standards for women, but men at least know those are fantasy but the media and culture set outrageous expectations for men's lack of personal needs or desires aside from sex.
Modern women compete with each other to show how little they can offer men in exchange for sex hence all the tattoos, ugly haircuts and face piercings saying "Look, I can deform myself and men will STILL meet my demands".
Granted, social media hasn't helped in that it has provided women with an inexpensive experimental environment to test their hypothesis on how little they can offer men.
vangelis 1y ago
She's really just facing a reality the average man faces without having done the mistake that was the kid
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Oh how life changes with age and between the genders! She feels alone and unwanted. Welcome to the world of a man in his early 20’s, where women demand men be the 666 and NO EXCEPTIONS. If you are not 666, then swipe left. Not a single concern about the man’s personality, kindness, social skills, respectability in society, how he interacts with men and women, how he fits into society, how good of a provider, husband or father he could be. The only thing that matters is his inseam or a Chad. WTF? Now, life conditions have changed, and men get to approve or reject women. Now, she complains how life is unfair and she might be alone. Welcome to the world men have had to deal with since their first breath.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 1y ago
Which means it wasn't your choice.
Do make a post about it when you decide to go for relationships. We'll be waiting.
Because having the child with the right person to begin with... It must be a tool of the patriarchy, right? Damn patriarchy, making sure women don't fuck themselves over fleeting feelings.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
What's done is done! She can't change the past! When are you going to Step-Up And Be A Man and Love Her For Who She Is and Put Your Nose To the Grindstone To Take Responsibility For What The Patriarchy Has Done To Her?
mustangfrank1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
having the child with the right person
I'm thinking baby trap and 18 years of child support. Free income for 18 years.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
"Dad" not ex-husband, no mention of a divorce or anything, that's her first problem. Getting pregnant to man there was no secured future with. Maybe he was her ex husband and she just didn't want to mention it but unlikely she just trimmed that out. He's a baby daddy.
Ladies, take note (but a lot of you won't):
Only have unprotected, jizz-in-your-vagina sex with men you are married to and have a long-term, stable, and legally binding relationship with. Or get some virtually 100% successful birth control for fucks sake before you take your zinc shots for fun
You can't have a ruined future dating life with a daughter you deeply love and that you sacrifice everything for if you don't let yourself get knocked up to begin with outside of marriage. You did this to yourself. Maybe you had baby fever and subconsciously hoped he'd give you a kid. Either way, accident or not you fucked yourself over hunny.
Don't tell me this was honestly the first time you've ever heard a discouraging comment about single mothers. Don't tell us you've never seen a single mom struggle to date when you were in high school or any other time in your life. It's not a well-guarded secret that single moms have it rough dating.
But lemme guess, he was probably "the one" for you so you thought it would last. Again ladies, put a ring on it before you take those swimmers up your baby tunnel. Short of rape you can ask for a condom or get some birth control.
That's some serious ad hoc realization sweetie. You ignored everything you've ever heard about single moms until you were one.
Maybe you should have taken it seriously before you got pregnant to a non-husband.
Edit: by dating, I mean dating seriously, not getting hit and quit on the CC
Overkill_Engine WAATGM Endorsed 1y ago
Yeah the issue with modern women passively or actively engaging in hookup culture and anti-slut shaming is even the type of guys that used to be reliable plow-horses/marriage material are starting to opt out due to how shitty a deal that buying her a ring and certificate giving her benefits without enforceable responsibility is.
Cheaper to pump and dump, even for beta tier men.
It's gotten to the point their best bet for these women would have been to save their hymen for a stable dude without a history of going through women like bathroom tissues. But those kinds of men are boring to these fools, so I feel no pity for them getting the natural results of their choices, which is growing old without a man in their life that gives a shit about them.
Land_of_the_losers the-niceguy.com 1y ago
Well, to split hairs here, some of them get "dated" rather a lot. It's the whole "give me financial support for life" thing that's become harder.
Vermillion-Rx Penchant for plastic dolls 1y ago
Added an edit. Dating for something serious.
lurkerhasarisen A Strategist Among Tacticians 1y ago
Hence the difference between an incel and an inspin... and why women's problems are so trivial compared to men's problems in the mating market.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
Ok lurking laydeez, here is the truth about single moms. Yes, kids are a complete burden. Yes, having a baby daddy in the picture complicates things. But here is the real deal breaker for men: if you truly desired that good man as you claim, it would be his child.
You fucked up the most important thing you could: the lives of yourself and your child. Why would I want to enter a legal contract that stipulates I can be destroyed at your whim if choosing this life for yourself and your child is your best judgement? I have better risks to take than rolling the die on you and seeing if it works out or if I will be mistake #3,491,284.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
The Wall is undefeatable. The Wall is infinite. The Wall stretches beyond the fabric of space and time. All women will pay hommage to The Wall. They have no choice. The Wall is God.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 1y ago
When that old dual-mating strategy backfires... and Billy beta isn't there waiting to pick up the pieces... oh LAWD bless her little heart. She should make a post on reddit and get advice from other women... I'm gonna wager a guess and say the video she is talking about is Rollo talking to Mikhaila Peterson. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OgYQSY4hWSM