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Loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 2y ago Stickied
Empowered wymynz don't have children.
The more empowered the wymynz are, the fewer children there will be.
But sure, let's blame men for everything. Because men are human doings. Sure. Whatever.
Here's a fact: women decide whether or not a child is born. Men have absolutely no say regarding her body. Period.
So don't blame men for a low fertility rate.
Don't blame government, corporations, globalists, the WEF, the CDC, the DMV, or even feminism.
No one can sell to her, something that she doesn't want to buy.
Women want to be taken care of. They always have.
Childbirth takes a huge toll on her body.
If she has her way, she'll only have the small number of children that she desires. She will not put her body through childbirth, 10-15 times.
Today she has that choice and that's why the birthrate is low.
Stop blaming everyone else. Start looking towards your own mothers, sisters and daughters. It is they who are the cause of the low birthrate.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Why have 7+ kids when you can have 2 and be guaranteed they live, via modern medicine? My Mormon neighbors tell me it's because they want a large family. I don't think low birth rates are a societal problem overall, all things being equal. What's shocking in the OP is that 40% of young Japanese men have never gone on a date while only 25% of women never had a date.
When I arrived in Asia and saw hawt women everywhere I thought, "What the hell is wrong with the men here?" and then I proceeded to cum in every one of them(the women). Same thing in Russia.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Yeah, back in the day it might have been 7 kids to make it likely that at least 2 of them will reproduce as well. These days, from a pure “make it to adulthood” view, over 99% of children born today will make it until age 18. So if you want 4 grandkids (which would signify that you’re about the replacement rate), 3 kids is probably good enough.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
2.1 is the current replacement rate. Very few countries are at that level. Most are below and all are declining. We didn't reduce poverty through gov't policy, we just stopped having kids.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Except in Africa. Right now western nations aren’t having kids, and instead we end up paying for the kids of Africans through aid. Wonderful.
whytehorse2021 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
It's only $104 million/yr to support Nigeria. /s
DextroShade 2y ago
The high rate of inceldom is a serious crises that we ignore at our own peril. If over a third of men are incels, they have no incentive whatsoever to contribute to society and may actively hasten its demise so they may replace it with a system under which they can get sex. This is how ISIS has been able to recruit so many young guys from Europe.
Boar_excrement Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Huh. I wonder if the governments ever bothered to consider reversing this trend by treating men as rational, logical beings and offering incentives and support rather than merciless punishment and resource extraction?
Nah.
It is going to remain status quo: everyone blaming men for acting with logic and rationale instead of looking at the cause of their behavior. Enjoy the decline.
Seagram7 Jr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Herbivore men or grass-eater men (草食(系)男子, Sōshoku(-kei) danshi) is a term used in Japan to describe young men who express little interest in getting married or being assertive in relationships with women.The term was coined by the author Maki Fukasawa, who initially intended for it to describe a new form of masculinity that was not reliant on the proactivity and assertiveness typically associated with masculinity in Japan. Philosopher Masahiro Morioka defines herbivore men as "kind and gentle men who, without being bound by manliness, do not pursue romantic relationships voraciously and have no aptitude for being hurt or hurting others."
According to Fukasawa, herbivore men are "not without romantic relationships, but have a non-assertive, indifferent attitude toward desires of flesh."
The term was quickly sensationalized by the media, gaining a negative connotation suggesting young men who had lost their "manliness" were responsible for Japan's declining birth rate and stagnating economy. Through mass media, the label of herbivore man came to be associated with irresponsible, overly feminine men who cared too much about their appearances rather than marriage or finding a stable job, which were seen as traditionally masculine goals. The definition of herbivore men is still debated because of this, making it difficult to estimate how many men in Japan identify as herbivore men, particularly considering the social stigma associated with the term.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Sometimes I wonder if all of these globalists and leftists that engineered an innate desire to not have a functional marriage and not procreate, are now suddenly raising the alarm as they realize that their grandkids will be screwed.
Good job, leaders. Socialize retirement for the elderly and then encourage lives and public policies that drive down birth rates.
winteryknight WAATGM Endorsed 2y ago
Well, in Asian and European countries where the reproductive rate are declining below replacement, they are offering incentives to have men and women go on dates and get married and have children.
The problem is, you can't just turn back the clock on anti-marriage policies. Dalrock calls this "the weakened signal". This is where men see that there is no value in trying to attract women by excelling at traditional husband capabilities. You can't just reverse that by paying men to get married. But that's what these countries are trying to do.
Example: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/china/three-child-cash-incentive-intl-hnk/index.html https://money.com/government-pays-have-a-baby-low-birth-rate/
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Yup. China has actually banned “non-masculine” depictions of men. They want their men to basically be Bruce Lee. Part of the decline has to be pinned on the men; we are getting less manly on average and women are definitely going to be less attracted to that. Though I think that’s a combination of a more sedentary life and 60 years of policing the masculinity out of guys.
If they want real changes, they have to champion real masculinity, and fix the laws so that men don’t feel like they’re putting everything on the line just to have kids.
woodsmoke Respectful reprobate 2y ago
I agree but the problem with that is championing real masculinity means enforcing real femininity. Women accustomed to all the social and legal powers and privileges granted them by feminist ideology aren't just going to go meekly along with that, even in ostensibly more traditional cultures like China.
Near as I can tell, the only way to put that particular genie back in the bottle is to literally beat it into submission (which is a hard sell even for red pill types who understand how women operate, let alone average guys) or simply sit back and watch as it slowly strangles itself, then build a new bottle around the comatose form.
Or there's a third (and possibly fourth, fifth, etc) option I'm missing because I'm a dumbass who often doesn't see shit right in front of his face. I certainly hope that's the case this time.
DextroShade 2y ago
Feminism CAN be undone in a country, just ask the Taliban. I am not for burqas but the patriarchy is the only way humans have ever had a successful civilization. I am all for beating the dangerhairs into submission.
hornetsfalcons12 Sr. Hamster Analyst 2y ago
Nah. I would much rather some other option, too. I guess continuing to allow non-feminine women to endure the bad outcomes that their “strong and independent” lives offer, for one.
moorekom Urban Hoe Guerrilla 2y ago
If you start treating women like men, they become feminine.