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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
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SmoovyKing 4y ago
So I actually messaged with her for several months last year. She had posted about a breakup and I reached out to encourage her. Over and over and over this was her story. I didn't have the heart to tell her that regardless of her looks, men don't date ==> marry based on a resume. I just essentially ghosted her. I've since seen her increase the number of posts like this. She's actually a pretty nice person, but I honestly think she is mentally ill. I hope she figures it out.
mexawarrior 4y ago
Women after 30 are a pain in the a$$, they just want full committment from day 1 and behave like queens (entitled) or alike.
Femenism ruined their lives.
They believe they can do whatever and still settle in their 30's. The thing is, man, as long he aint a simp, beta or whatever you wanna say it, are not gonna do it.
And look, maybe their beauty is still there, but the mental issues man, those are the worst. If they mid 30's and single, thats a red flag, a big one. You dont need to be a hardcore red piller to see behind their "im a superwoman you can commit to" facade.
Be strong my friends, I dont like the revenge fantasy some of this posts are, but at the same time I really dont feel sad about this women hitting the wall or something. Its just reality. You have to play with whatever cards youve been dealt with.
Peace out.
Bluecherrysoft 4y ago
I would rather walk my dog than fuck you
coke501 4y ago
Oh, how the turntables ...
DoctorFauciPHD 4y ago
You say you are attractive, but I am not attracted
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4y ago
Just what kind of men is she going for? It is important to know the answer to that question because if she is going for the same men the majority of women are chasing, those are the very men who are going to have options. Even if she is as attractive as she says, she is still competing for the same high status men that most women want if she has set her standards to narrowly. And not only that, competing with younger women who have the advantage of youth on their side.
"Narrowly" better describes the issue with many women, because they could have far more abundant options without actually compromising on having a quality man if they were to accept men who were perhaps shorter or earning a decent living but not one that would conform to their hypergamic standards of him needing to make more even if he could still provide for her and a family with his income alone. To call such standards "high" would be insulting to men who are good quality men but are eliminated from her set of standards that do not reflect his full ability to be a good boyfriend/husband/father, but rather reflect on her unreasonableness. Narrow therefore is a better term, as "high" standards still eliminate men that should theoretically meet a "high standards" threshold if not for some unreasonable or unnecessary requirement.
While this likely describes this woman, we cannot know that for sure. What we do know is that this woman struggles to get dates with the men she is selecting, as any date can only happen with both parties accepting. I would argue that if she broadened her standards, she could have access to different men who would still be willing to date. She does not realize that yes, at 34, she has less power in the dating market to attract as many men as she could before and the same type of men she wants now that she could have a decade ago. This is just another example of the woman who has been waiting too long in the dating market and is finding out that there is an expiration date on when she can date effortlessly and still get the men that she most desires interested in her. So, she will need to broaden her standards if she wants any chance to find a relationship. Otherwise, the spinster life is in her future.
meerita Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
It's hard to believe she's going for the average joe.
MissShiri 4y ago
Very true. A man doesn't need to be a multi-millionaire in order to be high quality.
That's the case of my husband. He is a civil engineer and makes a good living, but isn't rich with a "wow" salary.
MrNeurotypical 4y ago
Let's face it, she's not attractive. She got matched by some guys suicide swiping and when they saw her profile or in person they were nice on the date and then ghosted her. If she was attractive, she could go anywhere and get hit on.
Rougemak 4y ago
Shoutout Kevin Samuels.
https://youtube.com/c/byKevinSamuels
polishknightusa 4y ago
Here's my thought as to what's happening: Over-Swiping wears down clueless females.
She THINKS she is attractive because she gets so many "matches". A normal looking guy might get 14 matches and perhaps 3 gals to talk to him. She'll get a 100. So she gets validated. She's attractive!
Then... all the guys SHE reaches out to treat her like the 3rd string backup she is. The dog walker really was busy... banging hotter gals that responded to him. She logically believes that because SHE doesn't swipe right on guys that aren't top shelf material for her, they do the same. So she's puzzled.
Back in the 80's on an early internet forum, a gal said that men were lucky because they could "pick any girl they wanted!" while she had to wait for the "one" she wanted to "ask her out." She really believed that her "one" could just ask out any woman he wanted and this was what "men" experienced so she had no realistic standards to hold men or herself to. In her world, men just asked out the hottest they wanted and women should ONLY be asked out by the hottest guy she wanted.
At least with the dating apps, they're slowly figuring this out... just in time to hit The Wall.
Corn_in_your_pussy 4y ago
I ignore the traits that people attribute to themselves.
withrowsprings 4y ago
He was walking with his dog? Yes he is busy spending time with his doggo.
DaddySkrags 4y ago
Zero ability to do any kind of self assessment and maybe realize its your caustic personality.
panzer22222 4y ago
I know right...men are JuST ThE WORsT...well that was the feedback on dating reddit where this was originally posted.
Tap-Apart 4y ago
I like how when men struggle in dating it's 100% the guy's fault.
When women struggle in dating it's 75% the guy's fault.
Gee whiz ladies, take rejection and being treated like shit like a man not like some whinny incel.
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
As low as 75%?
Tap-Apart 4y ago
Even accepting 25% is a bit of a stretch when you consider that women are passive players in life.
"That guy talks to me. That guy asked me out. That guy fucked me. That guy abandoned me and my child"
Could you get angry at a stream following the path of least resistance?
That's pretty much how I feel about women. Just lazy adults that can pretend to be children.
randomroxks 4y ago
Well, women are men after 30
SsoulBlade 4y ago
So so true. So many women telling me men keep chasing them when they were young, only having the roles changes when men that was ignored have more options
Sperm_Master 4y ago
sean connery has entered the chat
TheDeconsecrator 4y ago
Yeah seems like mid 30s the roles swap, and but those guys can no get all the mid 20s women they want.
Scantraxx12 4y ago
Yes, because the tables switch. What many young men experience from 18-28 is a lot of rejection. Women starting 28 is like what men already experienced. It’s interesting because it like karma- but late.
ntvirtue 4y ago
Karma is a bitch of a whore.
AdministrationOver27 4y ago
Bruh if I had an award to give I would give it to you
sony_anumo 4y ago
ma nugget, here imagine you added my free award
AdministrationOver27 4y ago
You’re a fucking king dude
dachengchuan 4y ago
many women said me that the older they are, the more difficult they are in their choices of men ... YES they want higher men the older they are ... female logic ...
Jeviok 4y ago
"I wait for men to set up plans and when nothing happens I unmatch them. No other options exist."
GrannyLesbian 4y ago
You know every man is a rapist or just wants sex and men are not being perverts and bothering her so......
What is she complaining about?
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
This is an under rated comment. The every man is a potential rapist / scumbag narrative has been pushed for so long now
How can people complain when the guys walk away from that disrespect
ShortWarrior 4y ago
Schrodinger's rapist/scumbag
BluepillProfessor 4y ago
When you are a rapist and not a rapist at the same time.
Overkillengine 4y ago
Not getting free meals anymore. I doubt these guys are bailing on booty calls, so by them flaking on plans with her, she has to mean: She eats, He pays.
king_of_the_potato_p 4y ago
I'll cover coffee at most and is often enough these days.
PirateDocBrown 4y ago
Ideal for a first date, which really ought to be a simple in person cinversation in any case.
But boy, I suggested this on PPD, and was criticized for "wasting women's time".
king_of_the_potato_p 4y ago
I don't do long term, haven't for nearly a decade after my divorce.
For me the long term just isn't worth the effort especially since so many are more than willing without even going out for coffee.
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
I’ve just read the post more clearly. The audacity of this bitch. She saw him twice out ! The outrage!
Once was walking his dog (hint he does this every day and kind of has to. This is a good trait anyway)
The other at an event that for all she knows he had already committed to going to
She is a proper psycho
reignoferror00 4y ago
"I am on all the apps and make an effort to an effort to interact with them everyday"
I'm sure you're interacting with the apps; likely along with every type of social media out there. "Great convos" by whose standards? yours? I'm sure they listened to you vapidly drone on and made a small effort to keep the conversation going - that gave you some of the validation you crave. You're no longer a cute young thing they'll put in EXTRA effort for - expect to have to start pulling some of your weight. You have spent your youth perfecting your flakiness and indifference to most men; expect some of that back from men now.
Why are they on a dating site if they don't want to date? Are some of these hook-up apps? If so, you should have your answer.
colt_maximus 4y ago
Ain't mama nature a b*tch...
DoctorMars81 4y ago
The Wall is undefeated.
Marko_From_Tropoja_ 4y ago
Hahaha my dude had to walk his dog rather than chase a post wall woman…
downzeitor 4y ago
Did he HAD or PREFERRED? There I'd vote on the second choice, probably.
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
As someone who had a girl cancel a date because her dog “hurt it’s leg” (we had agreed to meet in the park due to the pandemic) I can just say I feel schadenfreude right now
A_Walt_Whitman 4y ago
Walking the dog is way more preferable LOL
Chgralac73 4y ago
so i spewed my coffee today. i am watching some western shows from 60s because thats kinda the only stuff left to watch with current tv/movies being terrible and there was an actor named elliot. so i go to imdb and remember there was another very cool western actor named sam elliot. little imdb watch and i ended up speechless.
the guy married at 40yo a 4 time divorced actress who was 44yo and they had shortly afterwards a daughter. no suprise he is a D
SelectAirline 4y ago
Obviously not that attractive. Sorry lady, but nobody owes you attention.
Old_snowboarder 4y ago
She's not as 'attractive' as she thinks but she'll never admit that so clearly the fault can only be elsewhere. The idea that it might be her - well, the very idea is clearly ludicrous.
slipkid223 4y ago
Alpha Widow right there. She fails to realize there are ALWAYS younger, more attractive Women for the guys she thinks she deserves.
ShortWarrior 4y ago
Is she saying she goes to different countries for ice cream?
Occult_Philospher999 4y ago
Must be “The Wall” blocking the view .
PS2Errol 4y ago
I find it hard to get attracted to women once they are 25+.
Most of them don't even register on the attraction scale - so they get 0 (I use binary).
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
How dare you, sir? And in a year where there's a first tranny in the Olympics too!
Ogdocon 4y ago
30+ and they are pretty much invisible, I view them as old ladies at that point.
AncientMGTOWWISDOM 4y ago
I used to swear by the 0 to 1 scale, but now I prefer the 1 to 10 scale, lol
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PabloEscoba 4y ago
Not everything is about you
TheChocolateBarsGuy 4y ago
THE WALL IS UNDEFEATED!
OwenWentFullMGTOW 4y ago
Sounds like she stalked the guy who walked his dog.
downzeitor 4y ago
If the sexes were reversed s*e would say that the guy were stalking, but its not so anyway... And still s*e found out a way to sorta shame-post him somehow (diluting on a rant post).
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
It does doesn’t it? How did she find him in a city of a million. Where he walks his dog must have come up in conversation
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
It does doesn’t it? How did she find him in a city of a million. Where he walks his dog must have come up in conversation
IntimateConnection_X 4y ago
Not just cuz she saw him walking the dog, that's in the realm of possibility... But then later seeing him at "an event"? Yeah sounds like she followed him around lol
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
Wall, dumb dumb. The Wall blocks you out at 30, that's why!
Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
So accustomed to getting whatever she wanted, whenever she wanted. Oh, to be a woman.
Overkillengine 4y ago
The men she wants have a plethora of options as good or better than her.
comptejete 4y ago
What is a plethora?
SnuSnuClownWorld 4y ago
Didn't click but I already know it's a 3 amigos reference, so take my updoot
beatstorelax 4y ago
for a second i was thinking "3 amigos " was that disney movie with the mexican , american and brazilian birds hahaah
DrDog09 4y ago
Any age -- Hit if she's Fit. Any age -- Flee if she's Fat.
The problem for most over the age of 30 starts as soon as they open their mouth.
HonoluluLion 4y ago
The guys probably watched some porn and realized they really don't want the problems that women bring lmao
Vikingbeard1 4y ago
Probably has a good profile that turns out not to be representative of her after 5 minutes of talking, but the men are too polite to be like "Wow, you're awful! You should work on that." And why are men like that today, that is, less blunt? Because women decided it was mean and rude to be masculine like that and call a spade, a spade. So congrats, ladies.
BeetsbyGreens 4y ago
Politeness my butt, it's self preservation.
If you ghost or ignore a woman, she starts pining after you and other women see it and want what you got.
If you outright reject a woman, she will do everything in her power to ruin you, and big daddy government has her back on that one.
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If a man called her out and gave her honest feedback, her post just would have been “tHeSe MeN aRe aLl JeRkS I HaTe DaTiNg!!!
Vikingbeard1 4y ago
They won't let themselves be happy. And this applies to alot of men. Hard to blame them; our entire culture now is about "deconstructing" things and finding new and asinine ways to be offended. Can't even watch what should be a popcorn action movie without it shitting all over something or other. Being happy is considered to be supporting all the bad things in the world. No wonder more than half of white women have mental illness.
sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 4y ago
"Wow, you're awful! You should work on that." And why are men like that today, that is, less blunt?"
There's no pay out to being blunt with women. Women don't want to be criticized nor do they want to improve themselves. Whenever I meet a woman who doesn't live up to her profile I simply ghost and move on. I could tell them things like: update your profile pictures, come off as less entitled on dates, go to the gym, and stop acting like your career is your whole personality, but what do I get out of it? Absolutely nothing because she's not going to take any of it as anything more than an insult.
So, fuck 'em. Let them stew in their own muck. There are plenty of women to fuck out there who require little if any effort.
Warm_Investigator_55 4y ago
The ultimate 'gotcha.' Women show a willingness to change after harsh feedback from men but men gain no benefit from such thing. Well, that's not true. They gain more tolerable women. Men expecting women to call out women is like expecting a mob guy to rat out his gang. There is no benefit for women at all. At least men can bank on the possibility of more agreeable women but when women call out women, they just get kicked out of the girls club.
Vikingbeard1 4y ago
I don't see any reason to assume women only respond to criticism from men OR from women. Like any sort of debate or advice, it's never going to be adopted by the mass of the target audience overnight, but it can slowly change things. I would happily give advice to help others even if it won't benefit me in any way. HOWEVER, feminism has taught women that men simply have nothing to teach them, that "advice" is hatred and sexism and proof that said man is a bad person. But it's not just to women; men don't even do it with men as much. Even I have absorbed it through cultural osmosis and I have to watch myself; if I bristle at a simple comment, I stop and check myself for being a little bitch. But it's just the norm; never criticize anyone, it's rude, no one asked you, mind your own business. We teach it to kids, because we explode if a stranger tells our kid "Hey sonny, you're being really loud and it's interrupting my lunch, would you please keep it down?" That used to be EXPECTED and now it's BAD. But I'd still say the source is basically feminism, telling us all that there is no need for balance, just do things the way women like them 100% of the time.
Aronacus 4y ago
Are you implying her pics might show a woman 10 years younger, and 3 dress sizes smaller?
Women never use outdated photos on dating sites
I can't lay the sarcasm on any thicker.
Jimmysparkzz 4y ago
Here is a trowel, have at it.
If that isn't enough I have a cement mixer available as well
Aronacus 4y ago
In my house sarcasm is a building materiel. Like cement or plaster
ArrowGantOne 4y ago
My mother once stated I was in apprenticeship with my father to be a smart ass. Good to know there are others applying the trade these days.
downzeitor 4y ago
The good old tools of the trade. They come with the job.
kyledontcare 4y ago
Does this mean that the hot dog buffet has closed up for the evening?
DecimatingDarkDeceit 4y ago
Lmao!
me_at_myhouse 4y ago
Maybe she should not eat so much ice cream?
MastermindX 4y ago
Yeah she can still be hot at 34, and even if she's not, still find men easily.
For men to ignore her completely, she must be planetoid levels of fatness.
Warm_Investigator_55 4y ago
This is true. Many incel women wonder why women who are fat, unattractive, and dependant women can manage to become pregnant so many times.
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago
The term is inspin - involuntary spinster.
Please see this post by u/lurkerhasarisen for more information.
Warm_Investigator_55 4y ago
i kno
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago
Women are NOT entitled to men's attention either. Don't be hypocrites, ladies.
Katowice_to_gdansk 4y ago
Lol if she was truly attractive she would have men hitting her up left and right. im willing to bet this burd is a 6 at best
Jimmysparkzz 4y ago
Oh she gets matches and is being hit up/on just not by chad.
Remember, unless you are chad you don't exist as a potential mate. Just as a person. So when you shoot your shot it doesn't count to her and she can say men aren't hitting on her as you aren't a "man" just a person whom she can't see.
redditradishman 4y ago
Maybe she can't tell the chads apart so she's mistaking the dog walking chad for the chad she matched with. <_<
CartNip 4y ago
Is 34 leftovers yet? I thought it was danger zone
_Fuckit_ 4y ago
All these old broads are going to eventually have children, and as a society, we will be in for hell dealing with all the depression, autism, downs syndrome, and all the other chromosomal abnormalities these kids will have. Not to mention All the single mother-raised simps and psychopaths that can't adjust to the real world we will be saddled with. The future looks bleak.
yellomachine 4y ago
I can't see the second half of it.
MuayThaiYogi 4y ago
Yowzers...