Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
Created by kevin32
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
- 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.
Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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waddleman10 5y ago
Subs like this shouldn’t exist. What a cruel awful thing to say about a person. So a pregnant woman left by a deadbeat is just “leftovers” undeserving of any love or care? Yes I know that you have the choice to date whoever you want and I’m not trying to shame people into dating single mothers, but why go through the trouble of degrading women at all? I don’t know what could have possibly made all of you hate women so much.
[deleted] 5y ago
Shit i wouldn't even give her my leftovers, i was gonna eat those
ok maybe the fries because you can't salvage day-old fries. but the burger is still good, that's mine
Scalermann 5y ago
“You can’t salvage day old fries”
And that’s where you’re wrong kiddo.
[deleted] 5y ago
Wait how do you salvage them? I've tried everything I can think of
Scalermann 5y ago
You can put them in the oven. A toaster oven works perfectly in fact. Frying them in a pan could work too if enough oil is used. So baking or frying. Just no microwave.
kyledontcare 5y ago
A single mother should be begging for your attention and consideration. Any guy with his head on straight can see she has nothing to offer.
[deleted] 5y ago
You always lose with single mom's.
myshinyerectiom 5y ago
Wow this is a really hateful post, really disappointed
I know I'll get banned for this comment, but it's really pathetic and disgusting to refer to a woman as "leftovers"
sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 5y ago
Why are you feeding any woman on a first date? If she's not willing to meet you for a drink then she's not into you, she's looking for a free meal. Unmatch, keep swiping.
lethargic_apathy 5y ago
According to r/femaleDatingStrategy if a guy isn’t constantly spending and paying for all of your expenses, you’re supposed to dump his ass bc his isn’t deserving of your time. And you, you deserve only the best, so you must set your standards high without really bringing anything to the table bc the guy makes you look good
oh_no_aliens 5y ago
more like REEEEEmaleDatingStrategy.
sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 5y ago
The women at FDS are a gaggle of post wall low value women whose constant screeching and insanely high demands virtually guarantee they'll be forever alone.
Right now I'm spending the quarantine with an early 20s college student who didn't want to go home. We went from low effort FWB to even lower effort FWB. Their argument is invalid.
IfThenPill 5y ago
I'm skeptical FDS even works. It hasn't even been out for a year yet. It's not time tested like the red pill. I imagine if they have any relationships they will implode over time.
sleepyweaselisawake Plowing his way through muck while misquoting Office Space 5y ago
The FDS philosophy in short is if a guy isn't spending money for her time and attention then you are a low value male. High value males don't spend money on women for attention. So, they're caught in a dichotomy of their own making.
natec96 5y ago
Jesus
SavvyVolley6 5y ago
I don’t care how hot a bitch is, a single mother cannot have a sexual marketplace value greater than 5. And that’s being nice.
Fluffedbread 5y ago
1-2 with a kid
0 for me, wouldn't touch her with a ten ft pole
Ancap_Free_Thinker 5y ago
5??? That’s waaayyy too high my guy
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kidruhil 5y ago
Widows are NOT in a separate category. Sucks for them but they always treat the dead guy like he was Jesus -even if he was a total pos- and that's worse baby daddy drama than a girl who just got divorced.
I feel for widows but jesus christ, what a shitshow
RuthHelen 5y ago
Fuuuck, you just won me the game, I'm gonna lie that I'm a widow!
oh_no_aliens 5y ago
thanks for pointing out the differences. There's nothing wrong with banging a hot single mom but she is nuts if she thinks anyone is gonna slap a ring on it.
SavvyVolley6 5y ago
I guess, if you want to convolute the process, but I’m not going to do all of that analysis for one bitch. I have set aside things that I just won’t tolerate regardless of looks. It all factors into one value for me. If she’s not marriage or relationship material at all, there’s a reason, and that drags her score down. The people that I bring into my life are a reflection of me and only immature dudes reward a bitch for simply being pretty with a vagina.
SemiCel 5y ago
Hello, based department?
SavvyVolley6 5y ago
Speaking.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5y ago
Not necessarily immaturity, but more like right tool for the job.
If you're just a new boy, a stranger in this town, and you want to know where are all the good times, and need someone to show you around, then you need a dirty woman.
That same woman, though, would NOT make a good wife and mother.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 5y ago
Why bother searching for the good wife and mother. When in the end you will stand accused of inflicting pain and suffering upon and exquisite wife and mother.
It fills me with the urge to defecate.
Uhtred_McUhtredson 5y ago
I have to upvote Pink Floyd
pinneapplecactus 5y ago
Makes me feel like a reeeeeeeeeeeee-
tommygavin265 5y ago
This is United States calling are we reaching.....
SuperGoxxer 5y ago
Based. Must be an alpha on the other end ditching the bitch.
One-Move 5y ago
Very right, e.g. very visible tattoo‘s I will not be able to bring her to any social functio.
volvostupidshit 5y ago
Who says you need to bring her into any social function? Just fuck her and then get out of there asap.
SemiCel 5y ago
The more tats and piercings a bitch has, the higher your chances of getting an STD.
maruadventurer 5y ago
Yes, but widows would still have a low MMV for the reasons you stated. Just not zero.
MarinTaranu 5y ago
Widows may have also inherited some income, some assets, some life insurance, from the stiff. That is a good thing, in my book.
mustangfrank 5y ago
There is always the jem out there. I knew a man who married a twice divorce woman with 3 kids. Why? She was a solid 9 and was getting 180K a year in child support. She was a daughter of a CEO, had married Alpha bux due to dad. After getting desired genes, it was on to Mr. Niceguy. They are still together, going on 20 years, but she brought 75% of the money to the marriage. She also worked and had a good job. He was an engineer like me.
cleverbutnotoverlyso 5y ago
That’s the only way to do it. They must bring more assets than liabilities.
PolukranosWordEater 5y ago
Just... Wow.. It would take me at least 4 years working my ass off to make what she already does and not having to do a damn thing for it.
Funny how people get upset at the whole welfare state, but child support and divorce payouts are like welfare for the attractive.
SemiCel 5y ago
Lol at thinking women have to be even remotely attractive to get a creampie.
PolukranosWordEater 5y ago
True. But only the attractive can become trophy wife material that get payouts big enough to live off of.
Mathiya 5y ago
I bet she made him feel inadequate every single chance she got until it became a way of life. My cousin married a cool guy, soon as they had a kid together she started nagging him, every time things didn't work out she'd threaten divorce, she's a drama queen so you know public humiliation is a staple, hes just continually coping it. They are still married & going on 10 years.
mustangfrank 5y ago
The difference is my co-worker can leave anytime. He will not be paying the child support, and she brought in at least 75% of the income or more, so she would be out $$$$$. Again, she was a solid 9, D cup or bigger, hour glass figure, after 3 kids and had a good job. With the amount of money coming in, that means a second summer home, a boat, nice cars. Look at is from his view, he is getting paid 180K to fuck her. She was maybe 5'5", he maybe 5'6" he was nothing special but recognized a deal when it came by.
Mathiya 5y ago
I guess the pros outweighed the cons.
mustangfrank 5y ago
Her money and good looks would win most men over.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5y ago
Beat me to it.
SMV is based almost entirely on looks.
RMV/MMV are more complex.
A woman can be a 9 SMV but a 0 RMV/MMV.
siuside 5y ago
Also known as the c*m-bucket/c*m-dumpster syndrome.
SirKolbath 5y ago
That's like, almost all porn stars. Literally selected for their appearance and sexiness, but nobody really wants them to be wives and mothers. Hell, Sasha Grey caught all manner of hatred and bitching over just wanting to read to kids.
The Libertarian in me says, "It's her body. She can do what she wants. The conservative in me says, "She's had nine dicks in her at once. She should not be anywhere near schoolchildren." (Although I have no logical reason for making that statement, since reading a Dr. Seuss book is hardly leading them down the path to ball gags and clown porn.)
SuperGoxxer 5y ago
Makes sense though, you know that her flawed mental processes allowed her to become a cock pincushion, so you're afraid she'll somehow communicate those fucked up behaviors to impressionable offspring.
RedPill_Dragon 5y ago
So.... For me, it's okay if she is reading to kids. She won't do anything to them. Even if she were a nurse, I wouldn't have a problem with it. My wife? no. My girlfriend? no. Not even 1 night. But she can still work....
I could see Sasha looking at me right in the eyes and saying, "You won't fuck me, but you sure wish your cute little Blonde fucked like me without the N count right?" to which I would have to agree....
SirKolbath 5y ago
I’m curious if she has any regrets and if she accepts the responsibility for her decisions or whether she just blames others.
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 5y ago
IDK...Maybe if she read a Dr. Seuss book called 8 sucked, 9 shagged, suck cock, bound and gagged Or 8 dicks, 9 dicks, suck dick, turn tricks
Then maybe we could consider the next generations warned about the likelihood of being a used up cum dumpster by 30 years old.
But I'm with you on the clown porn and Jimmy screaming thing.
SirKolbath 5y ago
I see you clicked the link!
goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 5y ago
Ah yes. Who could pass up the opportunity to view some good clown porn. Any comic relief during these times of viral outbreak and self isolation.
I wonder if clown porn popularity is because of the stilts and big shoes?? Women do seem to have a height and dick size preference. Always wanting more.
Airborne_ginger 5y ago
Ahh, the Ole’ CDS.
ipromiseimnotaNazi 5y ago
Widows are in a separate category but their value remains low if they have kids. Sucks but true.
RedPill_Dragon 5y ago
For me, it's more forgivable. Like, I know a few who only had sex with 2 men and the last man was her deceased husband and now she's entirely sexless and poor, hot also. Hard to criticize a woman who rarely has sex outside of marriage and who thinks it's her mission in life to have sex daily with her husband only.
BlackPillThrowaway27 5y ago
She’s had sex with one more man than she should have. There’s no way she’s all that devoted to her husband when she was used goods going into the marriage. It’s more likely that she just can’t get laid or has no time to do so.
kidruhil 5y ago
A woman who was that devoted to her husband is never going to get over him. Shes moral and not a THOT, but shes not gonna fuck her next husband like that due to feeling guilty like shes cheating on her dead ex.
It's a tragedy for her and whatever poor sap she marries. It's not done maliciously like worth most whores but it still ends with a man getting horribly damaged goods.
MarinTaranu 5y ago
Then, you recommend that you do her anally, because, hey, you deserve your own hole.
kidruhil 5y ago
Not my cuppa tea but as long as shes into it, enjoy King
forextrader82 5y ago
You have absolutely no proof that this is true.
You're literally inventing this.
kidruhil 5y ago
Read my recent post history, I've literally dated a widow and discovered it myself.
You're the one assuming saint status with no idea wtf you're talking about.
forextrader82 5y ago
And you are the one turning your personal experience into a universal truth.
Between the two of us, you are the one who is hallucinating what all of reality is like.
The Cuban poet Anais Nin could speak to this situation:
"We don't see the world as it is... we see it as WE are."
kidruhil 5y ago
Think about it dumbass, women are emotional. Anything they lose has its value magnified exponentially.
You wanna crawl into bed with that shit, have fun bro.
She prob wont cheat on you, just get used to never having sex lol
forextrader82 5y ago
Sorry, no sale.
Been married 13.5 years, I work from home, and we bang every day. Some days she has to pull me away from my computer. We lift weights together, still date each other. She's an anti-feminist, libertarian, practically an anarchist.
And - yes - she is emotional. I have to get on her case about things. But, isn't that the point? Isn't the entire point of this entire subreddit to point out that women need men to lead them? And - if you can find a woman with traditional values - that's the ideal?
devok1 5y ago
it divide by 2 so youre correct , a 10 with kids is a 5 .
kfree313 5y ago
Very nice
SkyiHiker 5y ago
This post. I am gonna pee ... so hard laughing.
Futuredanish 5y ago
I’d say she could have a ceiling of 6 if she had a c-section. At least her cooter wasn’t blown out.
BlackendLight 5y ago
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ipromiseimnotaNazi 5y ago
They can have high SMV and RMV remain low. And MMV is less than zero.
Hackerwithalacker 5y ago
Ok this sub is going to trash, god it actually had good points at some place and now we are just red pillers
ShatteredSoldier 5y ago
Single moms are not even worth the effort in the first place. I'd sooner gives those scraps to a dog before a single mom.
Uhtred_McUhtredson 5y ago
At least the dog is loyal and appreciates it.
kidruhil 5y ago
Goddam!
I totally agree but wow lol
[deleted] 5y ago
Get a game of Monopoly
Tear the board in half.
Wrap it like a gift.
Give to single mother when dripping her off from date (she may have tricked you and told you she had a kid during the date)
Give to her and watch her open it.
Then leave without saying anything - see if she figures it out.
Scalermann 5y ago
But what does it mean Johnson?
[deleted] 5y ago
Already started a game and didn't finish, Einstein
techmighty 5y ago
lmao
starrial 5y ago
Hmm. What about widowed mothers with children? Just asking
[deleted] 5y ago
A quick Google search shows that 1.7% of single mothers in the US are widowed. So small a sample number as to almost be statistically irrelevant.
One-Move 5y ago
normally much better, but.... I was chased by one and she initially intended to bring her 12y old to the first date...
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Cavannah 5y ago
I have always believed that widows are the only single mothers worth pursuing a relationship with.
Terrible_Presumption 5y ago
Yeah... They murder husbands and move on.
[deleted] 5y ago
Basically go hang around an army base
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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago
Go somewhere else to pull shit out of your ass.
Back up your claim of leave.
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 5y ago
They are just called widows. No one should be calling them "single mothers" and anyone who insists on conflating widows with single mothers is doing so to derail attention from the issues that come with single mothers. A woman becomes a single mother due to poor decisions on her part, and to try and have widows be included in that group is a disservice to widows who are not at fault for not having the father of their children around.
starrial 5y ago
So it’s always a woman’s fault?
houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 5y ago
To at least some extent, yes. This does not mean it is always completely her fault, as there is the other half of the equation in the man's decisions. But somewhere along the way, the woman did make a bad decision that she is at fault for making.
Some examples:
Getting knocked up by a random guy she just met (Why is she sleeping with a guy she does not know?)
Getting knocked up by a boyfriend who she has only known in the short term who has no indication of reliability in being a good father (Why is she getting pregnancy with a guy she barely knows?)
Getting knocked up by a boyfriend who she has known for long term but has completely failed to determine if he would even be a good father figure despite having an adequate amount of time to determine this (Why did she stay with this guy and get pregnant with him if she has not done the work to vet whether he would be capable and willing to be a responsible father?)
Marrying the wrong man and having children with him, only for her to see divorce as the only option to salvage the situation (A scenario almost every woman claims to be in when she divorces. While the husband is at fault for his bad actions, why did she marry such a man?)
Marrying the right man and having children with him, but divorcing him for completely selfish reasons (A scenario that while the man should have been vetted the woman better and therefore not married, the woman is certainly holding all the fault for blowing up the marriage.)
While none of these men in the equation are absolved for their part of these situations, it would be wrong to claim that the women have no fault in these outcomes. The statement "it's always a woman's fault" is not how I would categorize it. I do not absolve men or women for making poor decisions, but there is a strange aversion to laying any blame on a woman for the circumstances she had a hand in creating. "It's always a woman's fault" implies that she is the only one at fault, which I would not ever claim.
Better decisions can be made to avoid problems, and if you make the wrong decisions, you have some fault to own. Making bad choices is not synonymous with being immoral, but it demonstrates major negligence when considering that such choices do not only affect yourself but others around you. Being ignorant of why your decisions are bad does not make the decisions less bad or absolve you from fault. Even worse is making those decisions while being fully aware of the ramifications, which then becomes either stupid and/or immoral.
Zingerius 5y ago
Thats a different story. Such women deserve respect.
drewc99 5y ago
Also, such women aren't even single mothers anyway. They're widows.
starrial 5y ago
I see. Thank you for answer. I thought that you forsake every single mother with children but I start to get what this sub is all about
Zingerius 5y ago
The thing is that theres only 1.7% of widows out there. All the others are stupid hoes and thots. 98.3% of divorced women dont deserve respect out of the box, they have to earn it like everybody else. Thats why single motherhood in general is a disgraceful thing. Because of those 98.3%.
tommygun1688 5y ago
So, for the sake of argument... What's the difference between a widow and a woman who married a decent man, who later became a dead beat, or a drug addict? I've seen guys marrying nice gals, who later became monsters.
drewc99 5y ago
Decent men don't just magically go on to become drug addicts or deadbeats, though scumbags can certainly pretend to be decent men. I think you'll find a lot of women ignoring red flags and choosing not to see these men for who they are in the scenario that you've described.
Your question is comparable to "what happens if an unstoppable object hits an immovable wall". The answer is that it never happens because the question is invalid.
Cavannah 5y ago
The former (bolded) precludes the latter (italicized); they are mutually exclusive.
You don't magically become a dead-beat.
maruadventurer 5y ago
Quite incorrect. Your wife divorces you for an Alpha. You make all your child support payments on time every time. Exwife goes into court demanding more money. State doubles your payments that you cannot meet. Within a month the State declares you a dead beat dad for not paying up.
Happens all the time.
starrial 5y ago
But a decent man can become an alcoholic, a gambler, an awful person. Even a wife beating piece of crap. Not giving any symptoms before.
bi-speech 5y ago
Yeah, it happens. I watched it happen. Both worked, they had two kids. He got laid off, she kept working and started back with full time school. He just drank the days away and played games. He would go 4 months without working before getting back in the game. Over the next three years he went from being off for four months to working for only four months while she kept that shit held together. She finally left him in the dust. Her thought was if she was doing everything anyway, why not just make it official and do it all herself without the extra weight and mouth to feed.
Cavannah 5y ago
Anecdotes are not evidence of anything.
CryptoKingK 5y ago
I personally don't understand the leaving your husband/wife for a drug problem or not having a job. Isn't the reason to get married is to have someone to stand by you. Also nether one of those is death. So why do we still act like marriage is a forever thing when its not
bi-speech 5y ago
Just like any relationship and more importantly what marriage actually is-a business contract-there are boundaries. When you sign a contract and the other party starts doing everything against the contract, it is now broken. Not by the one walking away (at least I’m this case that I used for an example).
This case the girl got him in anti depressants, got him into AA, helped him find work, did personal and couple counseling. This asshole kept refusing to take his meds consistently, find multiple people to fuck behind her back while lying to her face (unprotected so put her at risk) while his excuse was he wanted the dopamine rush-he could have just taken his meds, kept drinking, started putting holes in walls due to his aggression while drunk and it just goes on! You can’t force someone to do things they don’t want to. He fell into his own hole and just stayed there.
So yeah, it’s a promise but when one party of a contract keeps breaking the agreement, it’s ok to termites said contract. No freaking way should anyone male or female be stuck with that because of a signed document that ties your finances together. Marriage takes both people to make it work. Some people are just assholes in the end.
starrial 5y ago
If the person is willing to change then ok. If the person is NOT willing to abandon bad habbits, what is the point of ruining two or more lives? Would you really stay with an abusive alcoholic woman who’d beat you in front of your kids?
kidruhil 5y ago
If a man fails to provide (his role as a man) for years and refuses to grow some balls and do something about it, she doesnt deserve to be shackled to a pos for life cuz she was young and trusting X years ago. Or what if hes the cheater?
I know the MGTOW incels here hate to admit women can sometimes be in the right, but theres two sides to every coin.
I wont date single moms again. Period. But I can understand that some guys will always try it. For those guys, I would hope it's easy to see which kind of woman their single mom dates are.
Obviously all of them act like the "it was all him" crowd up front. Thsts why it's on us to fact check, to call BS when we see it, and to always have self respect.
Unusual_Chair 5y ago
When a woman loses her beauty and gets fat and refuses to try to change herself then the man deserves a better woman and he should leave her.
tommygun1688 5y ago
Things happen to people... Maybe a man had a head injury at work, maybe he became depressed, maybe he got sick. Things occur which can drastically change a man's situation, sometimes very quickly. While, conversely, a dead beat can become a valuable & contributing member of society, if he has the proper motivation and opportunity. I think it's very important not to hold too firm on labels, because it can discourage the possibility of improvement with individuals, and stop us from recognising changes in circumstances which can cause a good person to fall flat on their face.
drewc99 5y ago
If a woman marries a good guy, and then he suffers a brain injury, which turns him into a evil guy, she maybe kinda sorta has an excuse to divorce him, but you're talking about literally 0.0001% of divorced women and even then her relationship value has been massively reduced.
Cavannah 5y ago
No goal-post shifting with anecdotes and "...what if" scenarios. Decent men are not dead-beats, and vice versa.
tommygun1688 5y ago
I didn't say "what if" once. Nor did I shift goalposts, I defended my initial question. In fact, I named actual things that happen, pretty commonly.
RuthHelen 5y ago
Some people are my way or the highway with ideologies. If you don't allow your ideas to be challenged or open your mind to the possibility that you could be wrong, even only slightly wrong, then you are an NPC like the person you are "arguing" with. It isn't really arguing, you're talking to a brick wall.
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago
Hmmmm..... what about this, what about that.... how about watching the masterpiece video by u/colttaine called whataboutism and get back to us after you do, if you still have stupid questions to ask.
starrial 5y ago
I only asked, kind sir. Just a genuine question from a curious person. There was no accusation, demand or whatever. Maybe I should phrase it differently. Let’s try „how do you find widowed mothers trying to get into relationships once again?”
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago
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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago
Watch yourself.
[deleted] 5y ago
Don't even go on a "first date" with a single mother you'll probably not even get laid so why bother.
SuperGoxxer 5y ago
Honestly, I'd leave nothing but some salty potato crumbs and sesame seeds.
Fuck this half-a-burger-shit.
Funny meme, though.
[deleted] 5y ago
"my hoes come first and they are my world, looking for someone who can woman up and accept that, or swipe left".
[deleted] 5y ago
Says the Mac daddy pimp
Mathiya 5y ago
Imagine playing a game for the first time but you can't start from the beginning, you have to play on someone's saved file.
chadtwashington 5y ago
Savage but true
RyansPutter 5y ago
I mean, I have no problem eating a buddy's leftover fries, but I'd never eat a half-eaten left-over cheeseburger.
kireol 5y ago
That sure AF looks like 5 guys. Aint no bitch worth 5 guys.
Scalermann 5y ago
Lmao she’s probably used to 5 guys. At a time.
whirlislands 5y ago
Genuine question, how do you guys feel about widows? Divorcees? Or single mothers who are single due to circumstances out of their control. (Not counting "oh I needed a man so I dumped him" or "I had his child why did he expect me to do more work after that?? He left the best thing that ever happened to him" Types)
Neo-Shiki 5y ago
I think most of men here don't feel anything in particular about that kind of single mom because they are not actively seeking a new husband or new boyfriend, most of single mom I have see, are actively trying to do everything for their child and for their life. That kind of mom only deserves respect.
What piss of everybody are the one who are entitled and think they can have "only the best ", the one who have a freaking long list of "I want " and nothing to give.
With some experience it's become more easy to see the single mom you can date and the one you must avoid.
whirlislands 5y ago
Ah this is a really good response, thank you!
Neo-Shiki 5y ago
You are welcome bro
Scalermann 5y ago
As if you would ever come across one?
kidruhil 5y ago
Dont give af, if she got kids then I'm not interested.
I'm a single dad and I still meet women. My value is only going up and that isnt gonna change anytime soon. No goddamn way I'd waste it on some woman whose value already tanked lol
whirlislands 5y ago
Okay fair, but what is it about having a child that makes a man's value go up, and a woman's go down?
kidruhil 5y ago
Oh no, I didnt explain everything. A mans value drops when hes a single dad too.
However, a mans value is based on his looks, his masculinity, his ability to provide, and his success. I'm earning my masters in health Administration right now and intend to get a doctorate in business management. I'm not doing it for females but for my own career advancement. However, its undeniable that itll all help increase my value as well. Money, power, and status give men value to women, what a novel concept!
Womens value on the other hand is based on different criteria. In general, men dont give a single shit if a woman is educated or ambitious. Might be nice but ultimately not even remotely factored in when deciding a womans value. What we do care about are: her looks, her femininity/maternal qualities (ie will she be a supportive wife/mother or a massive female dog), home making abilities (cooking cleaning...etc.), and ability to pair bond with us which is ABSOLUTELY tied to number of sex partners a woman has had in her lifetime.
Men and women value extremely different things. Women don't care if a man has been wild and a player in life- they actually prefer it. Almost every woman wants a reformed bad boy. The reverse is not true whatsoever regardless of how frustrating it is to modern THOT culture. Almost no man wants a former slut. We want someone who'll commit to our family (not talking about myself specifically as a single dad but all men I mean). A woman who doesnt cook/clean/take kids to soccer practice and ENJOY that lifestyle is a giant red flag cuz shell always be looking at the door and dreaming of being somewhere else. If that life isnt for a woman, hey go be you. But dont get offended that mens preferences for the former are unfair. Were biologically hardwired to want partners to raise families with, not selfish THOTs that will abandon their kids in pursuit of their own desires (which is exactly what happened to me, hence my having majority custody).
My situation as a single dad means that yes I come with baggage. That's ubdeniable. To many women it's an unacceptable amount of baggage. I cant fault them for that. However, in practice I dont have trouble meeting women. Plenty of women are willing to accept my baggage as I bring other qualities to the table that are important to them.
Single moms in modern society generally have an "I dont need no man" attitude which is extremely repulsive to any man with self respect and standards. Plus they generally dont do any of the domestic work and rely entirely on grandparents for child raising as they arent very maternal. Despite that, they pretend to be perfect and protective 'momma bears' lol. They've had plenty of sex partners and have tasted blood in the water before in regards to divorce and stealing a mans money with court approval. No goddam way I'd open myself up to such a low value and high risk possibility when young and unencumbered women are available.
Human nature is interesting and she doesnt give a damn about fairness.
whirlislands 5y ago
I don't agree with a lot of what you said, but thank you for taking the time to type this out. I definitely understand now what you meant, though.
However, I'm not about to pretend I didn't have a clear image of a specific person when you were explaining all of that and she is INSUFFERABLE.
kidruhil 5y ago
Oh absolutely. Some single moms are probably worth the effort. But those are outliers and imo not worth the risk of getting the 99%+ that are absolute shit.
100 years ago it woulda been a different story. But single moms in the age of tinder... hell no
whirlislands 5y ago
Single moms like the ones posted here give the few really good mom's I know a bad rep. BUT TO BE FAIR, the moms I did know didn't act or post shit like this.
It's like, yeah? Everyone wants to be fucking pampered but life doesn't work like that? At least they raise all the red flags when you have the chance to swipe left, I give them that much credit.
TheNewGuest 5y ago
Not gonna lie, I'd be down to have those fries xD
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HNIC33 5y ago
I have been cooking all meals for my family over the past week and a half. Mind if I take a bite of that burger and grab some fries?
Scalermann 5y ago
Please brother, please.
FollowerOfGrey 5y ago
What the hell is this sub
kidruhil 5y ago
Dating profiles of absolute trainwrecks that have been propped up by the ridiculous world of tinder. Straight up 1's and 2's thinking they can make demands lol. Shit like that
FollowerOfGrey 5y ago
.....so it's one of these subs.
greasywanker94 5y ago
If you don't like it, you don't need to be here
FollowerOfGrey 5y ago
Half_ass_guard_pass 5y ago
Dude, consider the subjective word value.
This is an image of how you see them, not how they should see themselves.
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Nothing wrong with anyone just dont marry.
coldsteel86 5y ago
Savage af!
sleepy768 5y ago
Jesus this sub is toxic
NFIGUY 5y ago
What are you doing having a “first date” with a single mother?
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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago
Beware of rule 2.
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Accidental_Edge 5y ago
What about a sociopathic man? They are hard to even pick out and by the time you know, it's too late. They're highly abusive emotionally, and sometimes physically. How would this be her fault?
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BAM!
Accidental_Edge 5y ago
Where do men not get passes for dating crazy chicks? And where do women claim they are superior daters outside of the minority of women no one dates?
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Accidental_Edge 5y ago
Yes I live on it and frequent the outdoors often and talk to real women who exist and none of them have exhibited these behaviors.
dk020202 5y ago
Ooooooh. They must hurt some people man!
XavierMalory 5y ago
So... you’re summing up a satiric post about generalizations, with your own tired generalization...