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tacko276 9y ago
caught her sexting a few years back. Went to therapy and all that bull shit. I was one blue pill mother fucker back then That's when I started to change and becoming red pill before actually finding red pill So I don't know about the she'll never be the same to me. And if you're rite and she's not then so be it hard next is an option
frmisunderstood 9y ago
Fuck beautiful escort is cheating for you?
cherryCanSuckMyDick 9y ago
Does anyone else find they have issues with speaking in a high-pitched voice and speaking too quickly most of the time? I find this is a major problem I have in how I talk, but I cant seem to break out of the behavioural patterns that are causing it very easily.
canadianbacon22 9y ago
This is actually pretty common with a lot of people, and it's been talked about here as well. It'll take some practice but start off by talking a bit slower, then focus on a bit deeper.
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petitepink21 9y ago
Starting online dating. To keep me busy on the move, nothing too serious. I just took a pic before i post it, need critics. Can i post it here?
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Pscilocybus 9y ago
I'm not concerned with game at all, but I want higher status women longer than ONS's, and to become more fit. How to do this being 22, homeless, no car, no job.I do freelance work when and where I can but it only gets me by better than usual. Will answer any questions to paint a better picture, and all advice is more than welcome. Thank you in advanced for your time.
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Pscilocybus 9y ago
That is the point, I've been racking my brain as how to exactly do that. I'm going to try and save up staying at a sober house so I can have an address next town that seems decent.
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canadianbacon22 9y ago
Is listening to music a form of instant gratification? I used to always have my headphones on. After getting busy again, I dropped the habit for a while. I'm starting to get that feeling of being lost in the music again.
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tacko276 9y ago
I like to lift and definitely respectable strength wise. I know my supplements have a good stack. But lifting isn't helping me slim down and I hate cardio. So I'm taking 2 fitness classes because I want to drop a few pounds. I'm 40 years old so I blame some of this on age. anyway I do insanity class on Tuesday's and P90X on Thursday's. Tuesday's I'm literally the only guy in the class Thursdays there's 1 other bro in his 50's. Am I looser for being the only guy or is this a golden opportunity to meet girls? I should add I'm married and looking for plates.
In the end I'm probably gonna keep talk both classes because they are working and I'm more interested in loosing weight then anything else but still interested in trp opinions and experience
Scymnus 9y ago
Depends what kind of guy you are. If you are a loser you're still gonna be a loser there, but you've got the right idea. Whatever opinions people might have of you taking the class doesn't matter because the point is to lose weight. If you really want to be cool and impress people I'd worry about that when your body has shaped up, halo effect goes a long way.
I knew a guy who did cheerleading, rarely saw him out in public without a hot woman and I think he did pretty decent. Wouldn't necessarily recommend taking up girly activities to meet women, but it's possible.
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Mangome 9y ago
Keep doing what you are doing, hope you are lifting? It will build up your value and the confidence to over come your 'mental block' will naturally come with it.
Duchenne4089 9y ago
I've noticed lately that fit older men seem more impressive than young fit men. Not even fit, just thin. They get automatic respect and people seem to treat them better. This doesn't really to the same extent to fit young guys. What's the reason behind this?
Roaring40sUK 9y ago
I am late 40's.
What I see with a lot of younger guys is either peacocking or lots of nervous energy, deferring to the women they are with, even if its a group of friends.
Older guys often have sorted all that out, and have richer personalities which is appealing to all sorts of women.
ownthatshitmanup 9y ago
Supply and demand. There's more thin young guys than thin old guys, hence value in scarcity.
Docbear64 9y ago
I think people just accept that we get old , fat, and die . Like getting fatter is a natural uncontrollable occurrence. So when they meet an older guy who's still fit he is essentially opposing the narrative or understood progression of life. Because he hasn't succumb to the the magical external forces of weight gain like everyone else he must be a superhero .
nebder 9y ago
Here's my observations. A few weeks back I had to take my daughter to an orthodontist appt. late afternoon with a full waiting room. There was one woman with 4 young kids who looked good and was dressed well. One man had a mild belly. Every other adult was overweight to really fat. I used to be one of the fat guys. I've got a way to go to get to 12-15% bf, but I look skinny and good with clothes on now. Obviously this sample size includes parents with youngish children.
An older man who is not overweight clearly signals that health is important to him. Shows a willingness to work towards and achieve long term goals. These are respected ambitions. A younger man should default to a healthier form unless they completely let themselves go. You don't get beyond a minimum of respect for only being alive.
FailingBillionaire 9y ago
Because they stick out among the mud.
You'll get judged among your peers. If most of your peers are in shambles, keeping a good figure brings you automatically in the top 20%. If you're muscular, it's the 5%.
klorio 9y ago
Your body is your temple, do you think women want a ruin or a temple? An older man in great shape show that he got self-respect and determination, all traits of an alpha. Women will like you by default if you keep in good shape, the rest is up to you.
redpillbanana 9y ago
When you're younger, being fit is the default status. When I was a teenager, I could eat shitloads of junk food and I would somehow just burn it off. My sugar levels would spike but then drop right back down the next day. And yes, almost all teenagers are like this.
When you're older, you have to work like hell to be fit. I knew one older guy who was trim and in great shape. He said that he was pretty much hungry all the time to maintain his low body fat. I had lunch with him once and he ordered an entree and only ate half of it and left the rest without taking it home. He said that he always did that as a rule. The guy was disciplined and it showed.
There are tons of fit young people. There are relatively few fit older people. Very fit seniors like Jack La Lane or Sylvester Stallone are probably one in a million.
DarkuSchneider 9y ago
Growing your body takes a lot of calories and proteins as raw building materials but once you grow to full size hold off your fork some when it settles. My metabolism crashed just after 30 but ticked back up a little at 40. It's somewhat harder to eat clean now days unless you know how to cook from scratch a little and shop wisely. Once you build a good routine it becomes automatic and easier to stay on track. Indeed, us older men that are still in shape are rare birds and stand out. I get the 'fuck me eyes' from milf's and daughter walking by at the mall on occasion it's funny. Where I live most of the populous is overweight or obese in most age groups now. Some teenagers weigh more than my adult GFs now it's shocking.
Peter_B_Long 9y ago
Older guys don't give a fuck. They're experienced in life, game, they know how to talk to women. They've learned from their mistakes and most have an automatic attitude of what's the worst that can happen?.
Young guys care way too much about what other people think and overthink everything. Overthink interactions, overthink the future, even overthink the present.
I'm not even and older guy. I'm a 23M but this is something that I've been observing for a while.
DarkuSchneider 9y ago
41M here. One reason is as western society gets cultured to be fatter we stand out from our peers if we are still in descent shape. It makes a silent impression that we care about our well being which is an indication of healthy self esteem. Life experience if approached with the right attitude builds genuine confidence cultivated from experience; 'book smart' and 'street smart'. We know our limitations because we have spent years finding and expanding them usually. We know what we want or do not want and how to get it. We DGAF because we have seen crazy shit and survived it, as people get older they get somewhat more pragmatic, conservative, or jaded and angry if you let it happen. A man really does not start to come into his time until ~25 when he starts to really see the gears that drive the world and starts getting experience surviving on his own.
Women's biological imperatives subconsciously wire them to seek strong mates who can provide and protect and like 'maturity' because it's the foundation to strong frame. Older guys are usually, until recently, often mature and established with a proven history of accomplishments vs only the potential of a younger man. This is why in the younger circles the 'jerk/player/jocks/chad jr.' or the football team gets the babes while the nice wall flowers get passed up. The 'Jerks' have potential and already asserting themselves and chasing their dreams. If he matures and realizes any of his potential he is the better bet in the mating game than the softer guys that are often destined to be the worlds bitches in the halls of business and the battlefield. Women want the warlord, not his underlings.
Roaring40sUK 9y ago
One reason is as western society gets cultured to be fatter we stand out from our peers if we are still in descent shape.
This dude. I am in my late 40's and I am in better shape tham most of my peers and to be honest if I see another fit guy my age, I take notice, becuase I knwo he has had to put the work in and be disciplined.
TheGameJerk 9y ago
I still second guess what I do sometimes...but also as a 23M, the change from say...18-23 has been enormous in not giving a fuck. And that was even without TRP for most of that time.
Peter_B_Long 9y ago
How bad is it to be a Mama's boy?
I grew up with my single mother. Since my childhood she's shown great unconditional love. Even to this day (23M) she tells me how much she loves me. We don't hangout outside the house or anything. There's just an incredible amount of love we have for each other.
Could this affect relationships I have with woman in a negative way?
I've thought of distancing myself from my mother but I ponder on the thought of her leaving this earth one day and me regretting it.
Psychocist 9y ago
My suggestion here would be to do a search for "Man affections vs boy affections". The dynamic between you and your mum is/should be completely different than the dynamic you will have between yourself and your partner.
Your mum is one of the only sources of unconditional love you will ever find. The other source is yourself. Cultivate that, because your mum will not live forever.
DSetupDTitleDMenu 9y ago
Having your old lady around is a great thing. She's someone you can always talk to unconditionally.
Just don't take her advice too seriously and you'll be fine.
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Accept the fact that no woman will ever love you like a mother loves her own child.
You should be good otherwise.
twodegreesbetter 9y ago
Read nmmng, he covers it very well in there.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
Dont distance yourself unless there's a reason, such as her slow poisoning you.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
Dont distance yourself unless there's a reason, such as her slow poisoning you.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 9y ago
"Mama's Boy" doesn't refer to a healthy love for one's mother. It refers to an overly-favored child, or a maladapted adult.
For example, a child who can do no wrong in Mother's eyes, and evolves to become self-centered and imposing upon the boundaries of others by being protected from healthy negative feedback while growing up. Or, an adult who has an unhealthy attachment to his Mother that intrudes into his relationships with women, none of whom ever seem to meet her approval. This type of "Mama's Boy" will gang up on his spouse with his mother.
If you have a healthy relationship and boundaries with your Mother, maintain that.
Beware of manipulative, abusive partners who drive a wedge into every other relationship the spouse has; this type of abuse may begin with unreasonably characterizing a healthy man as "a Mama's Boy" when there is no objective basis.
Docbear64 9y ago
I love my mom to pieces, in my mind she's the greatest woman alive . The thing is your relationship with your mother and your relationship with other women should be worlds apart , even if you bring her into the fold of your life and introduce her to mom . The relationship you have with the woman who brought you into this world and raised and nurtured you should look drastically different from The relationship you have with the women who want you to be their captain and Pin them down in bed every night .
Most women know how much I value my mom but I also never make it a point to talk about " Mother" like some creepy Reincarnation of Norman Bates . If you don't make mom some super common conversation piece when she's irrelevant or make it seem like women are competing for your attention against mom then you should be fine .
I make it clear with any women who enters my life that Family comes first but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy and spend time together as well .
SnailSwag 9y ago
There is nothing wrong with loving your mom dude. I say keep on staying close to her. What you need to do is treat women differently than how you treat your mother. I say as long as you keep those two aspects of your life separate, there will be no troubles.
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Attacker879 9y ago
I've been dealing with a wrist injury since November 2016 and it hasn't healed completely so I've been out of the gym (still did squats). I've lost some muscle and I'm worried it's starting to take a hit on my SMV.
What do you guys do when you can't lift? I'm at a lost here because I've built my confidence on lifting and now that I've lost that I've lost any sense of confidence.
SnailSwag 9y ago
Eat healthy, and still do the lifts that you can. I recommend cardio because it's better to be skinny fit than fat fat. Also you can still use motion exercises to work out that arm without injuring the effected area
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5t3fan0 9y ago
By avoiding talking to her at all.
You shouldn't do it, unless you MUST because she is a work colleague. If this is the case, its a shit test you pass by avoiding answering it or telling a clearly obvious lie, a stupid huge number.
SnailSwag 9y ago
Why are you talking to your ex? Her questions are shit tests, tell her if she comes over you can talk more. When she comes over just escalate if she's willing and fuck her hard and turn her into a fuckbuddy. Do not date your ex again, read the side bar!
SilverGryphon 9y ago
Is there an Alpha-Beta middle ground?
I don't have any girlfriends as such, but I have 3 female friends whom I treat as if they are my male buddies. They never seek any validation from me as they know that I don't dish it out. When they ask for a favor they almost always pay back in the form of money or other non-sexual favors. My male buddies probably get more free stuff out of me than them as I am trust guys more.
They were all women whom I showed interest in but they never found me attractive enough to date, yet they know that they cannot use me and so they don't. I still keep talking to them as I guess its cool having a few female buddies who just want a regular male friend and not an orbiter.
I was wondering how would you classify a male in such a case.
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Scymnus 9y ago
If they're getting more of your time and resources than you do of theirs, while not having sex with them, that's still beta. Doesn't matter if you don't spend 2 hours every day talking about their feelings, even if you're not getting the shittiest deal you are getting a shit deal.
If you are not using a woman for sex, menial tasks, pre-selection or meeting other women there's nothing she can offer you that a male friend won't do ten times better.
SilverGryphon 9y ago
You are right, I'm upping my expected ratio of return to at least 1:1. Might have to drop two out of the three friends. The third one can stay as she always pays me when I fix stuff around her house and I get paid the fair amount any other repairman would expect. In her eyes I am probably just the friendly repairman. In any case I need the extra cash.
AncientScrolls 9y ago
Well it looks like you are what i would call a "Gamma Male" you have sharped your social skills and frame decently enough to not be considered a Beta and have a small circle of both Guy friends and girl friends. However as I can analyze from what you wrote in your text. It looks like you still need to sharp your social skills better and lift more to get better at showing your sexual intentions with Women in general.
I recommend you to read The Book of Pook, if you haven already and also the book Models by Mark Manson. And forget about the idea of those chicks treating you as a potential fuck buddy or sexual being, if they already classified you as their "guy friend". Women are way worse than men, when talking about steriotypes. They usually put someone in a steriotype like The Bad Boy, Nerd, Jock, Loser, Weirdo. Once they´ve chosen a classification for you its hard for them to accept that you changed. If they noticed that you really changed they usually treat as if you arent being sincere or real about who you really are. They will usually keep shit testing you forever in an attempt to make you go back to your old self/personality.
So the best thing you should try doing if you want to get so pussy is to simply start meeting new chicks and show your sexual interest to them at first. Dont wait otherwise they will classify you as a "friend" and it will be really hard or almost impossible to get out of this classification they made up in their minds.
cherryCanSuckMyDick 9y ago
So I guess if youre in a social circle where most of the women have you labelled one way that isnt positive for you, the only thing you can really do is find a new social circle.
AncientScrolls 9y ago
Thats pretty much it from my life experience and also there a lot of Blue Pill Feminized Men that act the same way as well about labeling guys in a certain category.
Its kinda like the same thing that the redpill says about becoming alpha just to get an EX Back. Its never worth your time. you will always get tons of shit test and even if she accepts the new you(just like your friends). They will always make jokes,remarks and teases in a negative way about the new you and your old self to show their discomfort about the "new you". When you´ve changed yourself Its pretty much easier to just get a new chicks and new friends that will respect you and wont have any prejudices towards the new "you".
_mid_night_ 9y ago
So, I have been friends with a girl for all of HS so far, senior in 2 months, and I like her and she knows that, but it's unrequited, I never asked her another close friend we share did. I accepted I can't have her and we remain friends and the relationship is I give her more of my resources than she does me but it's because I never ask her for anything. For example, I have spent 3 to 4 hours of my time multiples editing her papers and other stuff that she possibily would do if I asked. But I never ask anyone for help because I don't want it, I just give it. Would this be considered beta. Also, I do this for alot of people because quite frankly I like being depended on, I think it's because it makes me feel superior in a sense.
AncientScrolls 9y ago
Dude I´m gonna have to give you some harsh words and a bit of "tough love" in any relationship, whether its with males or females, the person who gives more is always considered The Doormat/Mr.Nice Guy. Ask yourself have you even seen a person get pussy for doing favors, without expecting anything in return? Why do you think the Jerk/Assholes get the pussy while the Mr.Nice Guys always get the "I like you, but I´m not ready yet LJBF".
First forget about her ever seeing you as boyfriend material or fuck buddy if she already classified you as her "Friend". And also I suggest you to start requesting more stuff in return, otherwise you will keep giving that Mr.Nice guy vibe and eventually she will tell to her other girlfriends "How much of a nice guy you are", which will hurt your reputation and chances of getting other chicks in your School.
Right now you have to start focusing more on you and being more selfish. Maybe try to join the any of the sports team your school or hit the gym and start lifting. This will translate in giving you more muscles and thus testosterone, which will make you less afraid of showing your intentions to other chicks and will make them more attracted to you.
Now, since you are almost a senior, talking about planning for long term goals start thinking what you gonna do after High School. If you are planning on attending a College dont pick-up humanities or any majors that wont give you a lot of money. Choose a major such as Law, Civil Engineering, Computer Science or any other that guarantees you a lifetime of not having to worry about making ends meet(Financially speaking). However if you´re not gonna attend college. Its time to start thinking about picking up useful skills. Why not start learning how to make and code websites? Or maybe a programming language or how to use Office Spreadsheet?
And finally just stop being other girls doormat! Learn to love yourself more and make people give more value for how much you spend your valuable time with them better. Otherwise people will always think they can ask you for doing things for them without having to expect anything in return. Dont ever be a Doormat! Chad would never be a Doormat!
Anyways I hope helped you out.
Good luck with your senior year. And take advantage of the fact that you found out about the redpill before college!
_mid_night_ 9y ago
Ok ty for the response, already ahead of you on the lifting, been at it for months now. I will also be pursuing computer science, it been on my mind since 8th grade, but im starting to want more of a business edge to it, i want to lead a group or company, CEO would most likely be the zenith of career life thats actually realistic compared to other things i have in mind. And your right, after i knew her feelings, i became selfish alot, I stopped watching shit she wanted me to check out and there was a time when she wanted me to go to a party for one of our clubs, she kept asking all week and it was on thurs. in the end i said nah and went home, but i talked to the close friend that found out if she had feelings for not, and he talked me into sayin sorry for being selfish cause she just wanted to hang, she seemed sad. I know her so, i knew what she would say, so i apologized right, and her response was: its not that deep bro. Not sure if i did it cause i felt sorry, or just wanted to prove my friend i was right. But, in the end, i submitted and apologized and ended up watching shit she rec months ago and that i said no to, till this summer when i finally saw one. Theres more she wants me to watch but like you said i should be selfish and not, so i will. As for sports i really wish i jioned earlier, im atheletic anyone thats taken P.E with me knows, but never really did sports cause im a pussy basically.Im in the two clubs atm, if my sister didnt want to do math club my 10th grade year i may have never jioned till 11th, and i jioned another club for service/volunteer 11th and will continue into senior, i held a position 11th and i have 2 for senior year aswell. Combine 2 clubs, lifting, and a schedule of 4 ap classes and a dual enrollemt course possbily, if Comp Sci 3/4 is avaiable, i simple dont have space for them which really sucks. Thxs for taking the time to write such a long response btw, i appreciate it, and will become more selfish. Side note, she really doesnt have any other "real friends" according to herself, she told to our shared close friend, the one mentioned earlier. Me, the other guy, her, and maybe the other guys love interest, are the core of her friendship. The other people dont really do shit with her so she doesnt considered them real friends.
tacko276 9y ago
Has anyone ever used key log on there girls phone? Did it work?
Scymnus 9y ago
Not sure about the phone aspect but a while back I read about a guy who suspected his gf of cheating so he keylogged her computer.
Trust me, she'll never be the same to you once you get to read those messages, so unless you suspect cheating and want the relationship to keep going you might not want to do that.
DSetupDTitleDMenu 9y ago
Just curious about what age you guys started getting laid regularly.
Polandball_fan 9y ago
I find myaelf balking at physical escalation, any advice?
Scymnus 9y ago
What kind of man do you imagine girls want to touch them? Become that man. First step is convincing yourself that girls want you to touch them. If she won't let you touch her you're not going to have sex, so it's better to find out sooner rather than later so you can move on.
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YNGBLOOD13 9y ago
Women cry when they don't get what they want. Told girlfriend no and she behinds to cry in attempt to get what they want. Like spoiled brats. What do other redpillers think when women cry? Especially in a relationship
Manreforged 9y ago
Treat it like you would a 2 year old having a hissy fit. Don't give them what they want, tell them you won't deal with them when they are acting like this, and ignore them untill they stop.
Once you do it a few times and they realise you won't give in, they reduce the times they do it by 90 per cent.
YNGBLOOD13 9y ago
Great response. I completely agree. When a baby cries it's because they don't get what they want. Same with women. If you break your frame and give in to what she wants, it turns into a giant downward sprint of manipulation and will only result in more blue pill beta tendencies
gooeymarshmallow 9y ago
I am really passionate about male reproductive rights/ male birth control and I really want to do more to bring awareness/ speed up the process. I feel like I have been seeing a lot of friends and people I am close to trapping their boyfriends with pregnancies. I think it is just disgusting and selfish and I just feel horrible that it is a cultural norm. No one considers a girl poking holes in condoms or lying about birth control rape, and on top of that men get to pay for that crime financially and emotionally for 18+ years. How do you guys recommend I go about this? How do you bring awareness to such an issue?
sahil-walia 9y ago
age 17, rarely talked to any girls :| have social anxiety and was game addict :/ i am new to this redpill, where should i start ?
SnailSwag 9y ago
Read the side bar materials and the top upvoted stuff of all time on this sub. Exercise, eat right, and don't be afraid to go out and experience the world on your own. And no need for sad faces, you can do it!
vwzwv 9y ago
Sidebar stuff. Google 'kino'. Learn to 'let go'. Learn to detach from your routine and put yourself in safe unfamiliar places like the gym. Spontaneously join Planet Fitness (no contract $10 a month) and start working out. Joining might feel like a farce or as if you are being erratic, but you are really just getting out of your comfort zone. You are forming new imporant habits that are rare, and will be rewarded. When I started, I made a point to question things AWHILE I was at the gym working out. Why be home constanty asking yourself what I should do next, what the red pill readings I just read really mean, when you can be doing that awhile you are working out and between sets? A good routine (habit) I developed was: reading trp, going to gym and thinking about it. Keep eating clean before you are hungry and you won't find yourself hungry looking at sweets and chips. Know that it will take 2 months to see improvement (and you will see improvement) and don't question or look for results day to day.
For readings focus on kino, shit tests. oh there's so much really. It will take six months to really absorb it, but then again where did your last six months go? It went by like overnight didnt it?
There's a hook for you.
ilikemychickenfried 9y ago
Is watching porn an elaborate form of self cucking? Watching someone else fuck a hot babe and wacking off to it.
Smokerbank 9y ago
LTR ghosted me out of nowhere, what do?
redpillbanana 9y ago
Start using the extra time to meet other women.
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SnailSwag 9y ago
Move the fuck on mate. You should've never left all of those "leaving messages" that just further digs your hole. You should've just let it happen for the potential of future plating. Don't text her again, hit up other women, and if she comes crawling back don't let her be more than a fuck buddy. Good luck and quit pouting
empatheticapathetic 9y ago
He's gotta do it at least once to learn that it doesn't work and why. Gotta fail to succeed.
She ain't coming back regardless so he could do whatever and it wouldn't matter.
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
What would you do if she died?
Go do that
Smokerbank 9y ago
kinda hard tbh, eveything was fine, we go to the same uni and shit, exam session finished, and the next day this just happened...what the actual fuck...how do I deal with the fact that I will probably see her in the future? I already sperged out leaving messages and surely made a fool of myself thanks for the reply by the way
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 9y ago
Ouch, I understand this hurts especially one of your first LTRs. Ghosting like this is more common at high school/college age. People grow out of this game (and replace it with other fucked up dating habits but hey.) College age relationships don't always last forever anyway, chalk it up to good learning experience and an enjoyable ride to the extent that it was. You'll find that your personality changes and develops a LOT in your early 20s, usually coalescing into your durable adult persona by around 25. Relationships that form before this may become stifling for both parties when they grow and change a lot from when they first got together.
Over time, you'll probably come to see some of your own behaviors contributed to a loss of attraction and respect. Do what you can to LEARN from this, IMPROVE yourself so the pattern doesn't repeat or become entrenched. I HATED my (lousy) early 20s GF for a long time, but eventually came to realize that I was no great shakes of a man yet and was probably LUCKY she stuck with me as long as she did.
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PreOrgasmGroanLness 9y ago
Thank you. I behaved very stupidly and mindlessly in my LTR, but that was not my fault at then. I was fed bullshit and did not know.
How old are you now btw?
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 9y ago
I'm 50 now. I was fed well-meaning BS too from a young age. Regardless of "fault" or how it got that way, the fix is in taking control of your own fate and building your worldview on solid facts you've made an effort to seek out and ruthlessly vet for factuality and integration with all the rest of your knowledge, as opposed to "going with the flow" of cultural narratives and the BP people all around you who perpetuate them.
Smokerbank 9y ago
It sounded to me like guilt/she wanted to have the whole holiday to branch swing/CC but still, what the fuck
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
Don't even care.
You already know the story, no obligation to keep you in the loop.
Live n learn
Smokerbank 9y ago
I see..I'm just too shaken up..I really loved her (didn't tell her but she probably knew) and I thought she loved me too..
AnonymousAndLovinIt 9y ago
If you messaged her and she continued ghosting you for no reason, that's a sign of disrespect or lack of caring. A relationship with that in it is no relationship anyone should be in. At best, wait for her to initiate the conversation with you, but be skeptical.
Be thankful she gave you a clear warning sign. Much better than dragging you on.
Peter_B_Long 9y ago
You really have no clue. Ghost her back and move on. I promise you, if you stay in this relationship, you're going to get hurt much more.
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PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/therationalmale.com/2011/08/19/the-cardinal-rule-of-relationships/amp/
Smokerbank 9y ago
You're saying this is just a power play with an added reward on the side?
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
I'm saying you're over invested, and most likely the indirect reason she ghosted you.
If she was scared of losing you, or more invested, this usually doesn't happen.
Well, sometimes it does, but you won't have to post a comment on reddit about it
SnailSwag 9y ago
This is no positive. It may be a power play but there will be no reward here. She's corrupted the relationship and is doing whatever she pleases. Hit up other women. You overinvested into a hoe
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Solon64 9y ago
There's a fine line between alpha and asshole. Many women are not able to tell the difference (just look at all the battered women in relationships who keep going back to the same jerk).
Your friend comes off as more alpha because he says what he thinks and doesn't let their approval or disapproval affect him, so yeah he's more "interesting" to them. In this respect, his DGAF mentality is exactly what is meant by "killing the beta." I've ragged on hot girls really hard within minutes of meeting them and shortly later they have the biggest, stupidest grin on their faces. By not complimenting them or telling them they're "perfect," you let them know that you won't be manipulated by their looks, women love that shit.
Be careful not to overdo it. Calling a girl a fat landwhale with fucked up teeth isn't alpha, it's asshole. You'll need social calibration. Good luck, if you're in 9th grade, that's what, 14 years old? None of you young men and women know what you're doing at that age, it's a freaking circus.
Focus on you, remember always that women are just humans and not some magical fairy unicorn, that you're the prize, and you'll figure it out as you go, after MANY failures. Fail hard, so you can recognize success when you find it.
DSetupDTitleDMenu 9y ago
Let us answer the one true question that has been plaguing the minds of the greatest intellects since time began.
Tits or ass?
5t3fan0 9y ago
Ass.
An absolute flat-chested woman with amazing firm glutes and legs will always win me over a woman with the best tits of the whole mankind but a small floppy ass and thin legs.
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5t3fan0 9y ago
it probably does but if your smv is high enough they will ignore it.
juliusstreicher 9y ago
Get the braces. See if you can get the clear plastic ones. If not, get regular.
canadianbacon22 9y ago
Speak to your dentist and get his opinion on the correction process.
AttractiveMofo 9y ago
What are your favorite cues or phrases that you use to become irrationally self confident?
MrAnderzon 9y ago
Thinking your confident. Thinking your sexy looking. Saying in your mind "I look sexy, I'm hot ASF", "I am The Prize"
It's all about mind set
TRP_MushaShugyo 9y ago
If he can do it, I can do it.
They've never met anyone like me before.
She'd be lucky just to get to know me better.
EDIT: The key, however, is to actually believe that stuff
PreOrgasmGroanLness 9y ago
Funny how over past couple years I've really started to hear those kind of sentences in my head without conscious effort and know they're true.
AncientScrolls 9y ago
"Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever." - Lance Armstrong
cherryCanSuckMyDick 9y ago
Its what he told himself every time he took a needle in the butt
Abadalt 9y ago
How can you establish/ find a good male role model?
Women in my family are very easy to talk to, but that's all women in general. You call them, they'll let you talk about whatever you want and help out in any way that they can.
Men though are another story. You can help out with things/ find common hobbies. But you have to fight tooth and nail to establish those relationships unless you were just naturally born with a good father. You don't just call them and talk, that's a pussy thing to do.
What are your thoughts/tips?
Scymnus 9y ago
Men bond through common struggle. Join a sports team or find a masculine hobby. If you want to really bond with men you should do it when there's no women around.
You'll need to learn how to banter though, there's just no getting away from it. Watch some stand-up comedy and start light, it gets fun after a while.
131214 9y ago
I'm interested. Growing up with many women but no real male models have made me a pussy and I'm sick of it.
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letsgetbetter1 9y ago
Hi, I would appreciate some advice on the topic of qualification statements. What are the best ways to make them and in what phase are they best to be used. Thanks in advance. J.
The_BitterTruth 9y ago
Think of qualification as trying to prove yourself to someone else. If you're trying to prove how cool you are, "Hey look what I can do!" than you're qualifying yourself.
Anyone can say, "I'm the coolest chad with the biggest dick ever." but not everyone can act like it.
The best way to come off as a cool, interesting person is to be a cool, interesting person. It'll come out in normal conversation, if you try to hard to impress someone, it's going to have the opposite effect.
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Alrighty, looking for some advice about my friend. He's m19 and not ever had problems getting laid or gaming, but he doesn't really have Ambitions for himself either(that's a different point) This girl he's been talking to lately is an HB7.5 and she's practically using him. He's developed oneitis for her to the point that he's telling me he wants to "settle down" and he's tired of a lack of love. That's all cool that he wants that, but the girl is 19 I think? and she keeps manipulating. For example, he's told me about her being slutty and coming on to him, then putting up LMR. He doesn't really know how to deal with that he said himself. She plays victim games with him, flirts with other dudes intentionally, gets him to lock in on plans and then flakes. I can tell she's obviously not a good option, and I read the post on here yesterday about how girls want to get monagamous after they start getting better dick, or are about to hit the wall, and I noticed that's what's happening. I mentioned a few points (without revealing it stems from a TRP mindset) about this to try and get him to see what going on. My brother mentioned just let him fuck himself over, and he'll learn, but if I can help him see what's going on, I want to. Any thoughts on how to handle the situation?
Scymnus 9y ago
Your brother's right, you can't save him. It will only ruin your relationship because he will put her in front of you.
If you want to help him out be there to pick up the pieces once she breaks him, until then keep the red knighting to a minimum.
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Alright. Sounds like the plan then. As much as I don't want to see him fuck up, I'll have to. Thanks
SnailSwag 9y ago
I agree that there's not a whole lot you can do. Just be bro and don't justify any of her behavior. If he comes to you complaining about her, you should tell him that what she is doing is wrong etc. but you cannot dictate his life even though the red flags are there. Sadly he has to realize himself
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Alrighty. Thanks for the reply, time to see how this shit storm turns out.
AnonymousAndLovinIt 9y ago
I have trouble finding materials relating to making social bonds and relationships with other men and groups. I'm an introvert, and used to be anti-social. Is there a "book of pook" for building respect and fostering relationships with other men?
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Peter_B_Long 9y ago
How to Win Friends and Influence People. No More Mr. Nice Guy.
cherryCanSuckMyDick 9y ago
How do those two compare? Ive heard of 'Friends & Influence being reccomended by many people outside of Red Pill as well
Peter_B_Long 9y ago
Nmmng focuses on being more masculine in your overall life. Friends, relationships, career. Htwfaif pretty much describes itself. I highly recommend taking notes on them.
nebder 9y ago
I can offer what I've found useful as someone who continues to come out of his old shell.
Be respectful but not a kissass. Be respectable and take care of yourself with appearance like grooming and dressing neatly. Show interest in the other person. Expect men to give you shit. Dish it back and don't take it personal. Friendly ribbing is fun.
Meetup.com is good for finding people with similar interests.
How to win friends and influence people helped me. It's good to know the principles and selectively apply them. Some of them may have been more appropriate for a different time of the world, so use your judgment.
I made the mistake of asking for specific advice or books to be more social. You can learn some of that stuff but most of it is just getting out there and talking more. Talk more to everyone. Cashiers and servers/service people that you show genuine interest towards are good initial captive audiences. Then branch out to people beside you in lines. Keep pushing yourself out of the comfort zone. I want to talk to more people now just from well talking to more people. Feeds itself.
AnonymousAndLovinIt 9y ago
I've been pushing myself to talk more to strangers, but it's always still uncomfortable and I never make friends out of it, just friendly chats. In my work place my relationships have become significantly better, I still get into headbutts with other guys and it annoyed me to no end when I'm taken as a joke. I figure this may be just a phase going on with what's happening in life, but I was still curious if there was any material on how to deal with people who are aggressive, condescending, how to turn the joke on others etc.
Thank you for the tips, though. Solid pointers.
ToFapNoMorelsTheGoal 9y ago
Like the guy you replied to said, experience is everything. The more you force yourself into social interactions, the more your humor, wit, ability to come up with comebacks on the fly, etc. will improve. I can't tell you the amount of times I was jokingly insulted (and took it personally - don't do this) and dwelled on it for entire days afterwards at times and I would especially become butthurt because I would come up with a good comeback to it later, sometimes only a few moments later, but by then the chance to give them a response would have passed. The only cure to this is experience. And most importantly, don't take any lighthearted insult/mockery personally. If the person actually has a problem with you then that's a different story.
yazen_ 9y ago
The guy above already answered. But here are my two cents. Smile. I cannot emphasize on that. I get myself out of many situations just because I smile. Be it when I bump into people, in the streets, when I'm walking rapidly, or to just approach random people. It's disarming, some chicks look bitchy from afar, but when you approach with a confident genuine smile it just puts their guard down. When guys give you shit, just treat it like a shit test, either you laugh on them and say nothing, or A&A (plenty of material about it in the sidebar). But, you gotta be sure they are not crossing your boundaries, if they do let them know on the spot.
AnonymousAndLovinIt 9y ago
I have difficulty with the smiling part because I used to be a chump. Not smiling made people stop poking fun at me. I guess I'll just have to get more experience with this, I may misinterpreting jokes as disrespect.
Xoramung 9y ago
What is the best order of reading the side bar? would like advice to read in the best order for improvement.
Scymnus 9y ago
Irrelevant, you should have read all of it before posting.
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Xoramung 9y ago
So escalation comes before talking to a girl? Seems there is an optimal order and thats what i want to know.
Scymnus 9y ago
It might when you've read the entire sidebar and put down the work.
There really is no "optimal order" as long as you're open to RP ideas. Most guys struggle to connect their own feelings to what's written here so we usually suggest No More Mr. Nice Guy (book) first. Every guy has a different situation so there is no defined "optimal order", but if you want some pointers on what to read we need to know more about your situation.
However since you're supposed to read the entire thing anyway it would be really cool if you could just do that so that I could spend my time answering better questions from you later.
Salted_Pretzel 9y ago
Is there a guide, like a blueprint to become a 10% man. I know there's lifting and building your career, is there a guide here or some kind of blueprint you guys follow to achieve that?
ownthatshitmanup 9y ago
No because what I want isn't what you want and my circumstances are not the same as yours. Lift and career building are unanimous foundations that benefits all men, and from there you just figure how to get what you want, take what you need and work towards it.
Also a point about blueprints, read Law#never follow someone's else's footsteps. I.e. You see people trying to follow Arnold's blueprint to success right now such as lifting->film stud-> government but then even if you do copy Arnold and get there spot on, you'll never shine as bright as him and you'll never be satisfied because it wasn't even what you truly wanted in the first place.
johnson89893 9y ago
Critiques of Jordan Peterson? I am on my way down the rabbit hole that is his youtube channel and feel I'm being sucked in a little. Lots of RP in there but wondering what I should be wary of?
Scymnus 9y ago
Jordan Peterson is very much RP approved, so you won't find much critique of him here. Cross-reference his ideas with TRP if you're worried about purplepill shit sneaking in.
Although I have to say that I find his voice very annoying.
CrowleyEusford 9y ago
After two months I still have feelings for my ex. I even freeze sometimes when I see her and can't even try to act like an alpha. Are there any remedy for this?
Scymnus 9y ago
Accept your feelings, control your actions. There's no magic cure for it, no switch in your head to turn the feelings off so just accept them and control your actions so that you interact with her as little as possible. It gets better after a while, for me it's somewhere around 6 months.
RedBigMan 9y ago
Stop worrying about the women behind you and start worrying about the women ahead of you.
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SnailSwag 9y ago
Stop giving a fuck about her. You need to surround yourself with some goddamn women even if they're just friends. At least spend time with your guys or something to get your mind off of past sluts. I used to be the same way when I'd see my ex in college but I just feigned confidence and not caring until I really didn't give a shit anymore, fucking other women helped too.
Shadowslight3x 9y ago
How do I talk to more women when your daily life doesn't actually include new people?
This has been a weakness of mine and I've been trying to crush it recently. Problem is, I am a competitive swimmer.
I spend more time in the pool and traveling to the pool than I do at home.. Plus, on days I have 2 practices (most days) I can't afford to go out to a new place because of both time and energy.
I am an upcoming college freshman, and I know once school starts, I will have more than enough opportunity. In the meantime though, I don't know what to do.
Should I just wait until school starts? Doing this feels like I'm making an excuse for not practicing.
If not, where/when am I supposed to get these interactions?
AncientScrolls 9y ago
I dont know which age or country you are. But if you are already 21 or over you can try going to Pubs and Nightclubs. Its definitely one of the best places to meet and sharp your social skills with chicks.
Shadowslight3x 9y ago
17, and live in the mountains where it takes a considerable amount of time to travel anywhere
and its that time that I don't have because of my training
FailingBillionaire 9y ago
What do you do after you nut, if the girl isn't satisfied with your "performance"? Obviously you can't get it up immediately afterwards.
Scymnus 9y ago
Learn how to do oral, if you're worried about performance just make her cum once before putting your dick in her. If you feel like she deserves more in between sessions just keep licking, but make sure not to cum inside her unless you like the taste of semen in your mouth.
5t3fan0 9y ago
foreplay and oral, but with the attitude that its just extra pleasure for her after the good dicking, aka dont aknowledge your bad performance even if you both know it was bad.
WhoAreTheGlobalists 9y ago
learn to keep going past the nut dude
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juliusstreicher 9y ago
They prefer their Wives' happiness over yours.
Scymnus 9y ago
Yes and no. If we still had Marriage 1.0 I could respect their decisions, I would never be cool with my wife travelling somewhere with her girlfriends. When a group of guys travel somewhere there's usually alcohol and women involved, so I can see how they wouldn't want their wives to worry about it.
However Marriage 2.0 is absolute fucking horseshit and they were stupid to get into it in the first place. With the threat of divorce rape hanging over their heads they will never dare defy their wives and do what they really want to, and unfortunately there's very little you can do to save them.
Try flipping the script on them without seeming annoyed. Ask them if they would let their wives do the same. Try to make it seem like their wives want them to go because they want to make them happy.
needRN 9y ago
Not sure from their standpoint but you go solo tripping. Hopefully meet some cool folks on the way. Also, you can move on your own schedule so you won't miss anything that you want to do.
ownthatshitmanup 9y ago
Tbh it sounds like they can't be fucked for whatever reason. Wife, work, lack of interest, you, who knows. Just enjoy yourself I guess.
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brotherhood-of-man 9y ago
Where to learn Cold Reading?
I couldn't find a good book, video or a website about it.
Sylarwolf 9y ago
For me it was 'What every body is saying', by Joe Navarro. He is an ex-cop with years of training in body language recognition. I highly recommend it as it has lots and lots of photos and illustrations. I have it on hardcover, but I once found it around as an E-book.
vwzwv 9y ago
edit: crap. Cold reading isnt what I though it was. I thought it was reading aloud.
Cold reading should be an elective in high school / college. I've been reading great amounts through my life, and am older, yet never could cold read that well. When I read silently I read in 'bursts' faster than I can talk followed by 'stall's where I think about what I just read.
I think there's some $$ opportunity for someone (especially younger) who can cold read well, since many people can't or don't read and everyone enjoys being read to. Examples. Putting together media for internet, voiceovers, owning your own youtube channel (be it informational, political, etc), or even a manager, or someone moving up through a work force.
I never knew of any resources for Cold Reading. Think I'll google 'cold reading now'
If anyone knows some resources, pls let
meus know.jdgalt 9y ago
I learned to cold-read by taking up Tarot cards. The secret behind them (and any other mystical "psychic talent") is that the mumbo-jumbo that they pretend "explains why it works" is really nothing but a way of focussing. The mumbo-jumbo shuts down the usual background noise in your head so that you notice things about the other person. Once you understand this, you don't need the cards or the "explanation" any more, though they can still help.
brotherhood-of-man 9y ago
Ah, same can be said for horoscope stuff, then.
WhyIsYosarionNaked 9y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Facts-Book-Cold-Reading/dp/0955847605
brotherhood-of-man 9y ago
Looks like a very comprehensive book. Thank you.
Edit: Can you please share your opinion about this review: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2I333IHANLCKW/
WhyIsYosarionNaked 9y ago
I'm still reading the book myself. I haven't had issue with it, though I am rather new to the field itself.
seaguy87 9y ago
Does anyone know what ever happened to Michael of "Michael's Story" fame?
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Have you guys heard of How to Be a 3% Man, Winning the Heart of the Woman of Your Dreams by Corey Wayne? What do you think of it?
nebder 9y ago
I got it with my last audible credit.
Purple pill. Some good stuff but nothing more than what you'd get from the sidebar and reading the top rated stuff here. Referenced red pill principles with different names.
I'll give it another listen in a few weeks in case I missed something important.
The annoying thing was that the audiobook kept referencing blog posts and YouTube videos. Possibly they filled in the gaps but gdit I'm trying listen to the book on my commute not go looking up articles and drive.
totallyAlphaguy 9y ago
How to properly play with a girls emotions? It's easy to make her laugh and smile but how do you create the emotional roller coaster?
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What the fuck is this?
tacko276 9y ago
This is 90% useless dumb shit. The other 10% is questionable at best. Approach everyone all the time don't be a fucking creep if she isn't responding go talks to someone else.
The_BitterTruth 9y ago
It's how to get laid like a warlord, next question.
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If it's 13th century Mongolia.
It's got a rape vibe.
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PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
We going this route?
The_BitterTruth 9y ago
Checked post history, can confirm troll.
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It's the only stickied post I have a problem with.
PaperStreetVilla 9y ago
You are allowed to feel how you like. Keep the shame policing out of it.
Final warning
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