Once he understands that it is disadvantageous... it is not a process of change, but instead a change of process.

And this is why red pill works for so many men who find it/are willing to read it. As RPS has stated before, men are waking up.

While women can be forced to acknowledge shortcomings ("this is not a behavior I tolerate..." "I'm sorry!"), she will appear sincere in her desire to fix it and be what her man wants her to be. But the very fact that the phrase "trying" is in her vocabulary means she has already admitted she does not have the faculties of mind present to understand what a change would entail.

This times one thousand.

There's a reason that women have such low self esteem. They have a really hard time respecting anyone other than a high status male and when they see their own nature, they feel really bad about themselves. They're not strong, not stoic, and don't like to work hard. What they're programmed to respect and what they're programmed to be just don't line up and then they cry.

She's sincere about wanting to change, but that wanting never really materializes so all she's left to do is apologize. Better to like women for having soft skin than to expect goodies out of them. I think men in general are kind enough to do so, but in a blue pill world people expect her to be strong or reliable like men and she's not very good at it. She really is sorry and she's sorry that all she can do is be sorry, but it's still true that all she can do is be sorry.

Pointed this out yesterday in a different light. Not only are they incapable of it, but most of them never have to change. The BP men will still fawn and fall all over themselves for the chance to be the one who gets taken for a ride by her.

Part of this is just women's biology; part of it is how much weak men enable them.

If that is femininity then it is equally important to stress that masculinity is the opposite:

Men MUST be capable of change.

-Be open to change for the better.

-Don't throw tantrums (GLO will smite you from the heavens)

-Stop making excuses.

If women are not agents of their own destiny they will either wander around aimlessly forever (as many do) or they will seek a man who knows how to control the chaos who will do it for her. These men are like gods who impose their will on the world, a feat they find impossible. A feat many BP men find impossible.

But we know otherwise.

Note that many of the excuses that women use are the same excuses that children use. "I'm trying!" "It's so hard." "I don't know what happened!" "I can't help it!" It's easy to imagine a 5-year-old saying the same things.

What is missing from these statements is analysis and accountability. "It's so hard because X, Y, and Z." "I'm trying, but the problem is A, B, and C." "I don't know what happened, but I'm going to do 1, 2, and 3 to fix it and kick the responsible party's ass while I'm at it."

The problem is that women are coddled like children and not held accountable because, according to Bill Burr, "...no one corrects them because they wanna fuck 'em." Anyone treated in this manner will only improve themselves if they have an innate self-discipline and are good at reflecting on their situation.

Example I wrote in another thread to explain why more women than men believe in stupid bullshit like crystal energy, astrology, palm reading, tarot cards, and psychics:

• Child: I can't wait until Santa comes!
• Adult: Me too, let's wait for Santa together. (Generate excitement resulting in happy and non-crying kid.)

vs.

• Adult: I can't wait until Santa comes!
• Adult #2: You idiot, Santa isn't real.

Now compare:

• Woman: I love astrology!
• Man: Me too, let's read your horoscope together. (Generate excitement resulting in happy and non-crying woman...and maybe sex later.)

vs.

• Man: I love astrology!
• Man #2: You idiot, astrology isn't real.

(Note, the above bullshit, while very stupid to rely on for decision-making, is at the same time excellent for pick up.)

Isn't it true, though, that women can be influenced by men to act in a better way than if they are left to the worse parts of their own natures?

As an example, even in today's society women generally hold it together better at work than in their private relationships, because there are still principles and consequences governing most workplace cultures that do not exist when it comes to personal relationships (imagine, for instance, if a boss gave a female employee some work, and she sniffled and told him she might do it in a week's time, and then denied that anything was the matter whilst secretly resenting something he said six months before - most women leave this stuff at home.)

Most societies in history have observed the feminine weakness to have feelings/emotions that are not governed by reason/intellect. For that reason most societies, to preserve themselves, have insisted that the masculine prevail in the ordering of society.

This did create social mores, principles, laws and cultures which helped to hold women to a standard, rather than encouraging women to act in an impulsive and non-accountable way according to subjective feeling.

This.

Growing up I've seen it in my mom and women in general at life. The only women who HAVE to change are either ugly women or outliers but even outliers have MALE mentors guiding them so they are very masculine by nature.

Took me a long time to accept that but now its fine really. If you ever wondered why society has downgraded to mediocrity look no further than feminism and women. Its easy to judge and say someone is not good enough when you yourself don't strive for anything and quite frankly are a loser for most of your life (sound familiar).

I don't expect them to change so I'm glad in that aspect. No matter where a woman is they all say the same variations of the same shit and act the same way.

By the way, good observation on the "trying" word. If you ever hear anyone saying anything with the word try you should get away from them asap. They will never commit to anything they say they will "try" to do.

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The overwhelming argument against women's incapability to change, and one which I was fairly susceptible to until lately, is there are some bad ass bitches out there.

However, I realized something about all the ones that I know personally. They are nothing more than what they happened to be. If anything in the world came and knocked them down, down is where they would stay. It is not so much they cannot change (I have seen some bitches change for the worst), it is that they cannot actively make themselves any better. They cannot be taught anything.

At best, with the right stimulus, they can be trained.

Calling Bullshit on this. I've been in an LTR for the last 5+ years and as I've grown, my partner has adapted to me. We've had some tough conversations and there are certain things I accept as the way she is, but I've seen her grow a lot.

Some of the shit on here is plain victim speak - folks are wired differently (men & women too). Shut up and get over it. It's been hammered over and over again.

Move on bro and focus on how to make yourself better.

BP men are the same as these women