tldr: see title
Many of us have pointed out that feminists will avoid and even censor any discussion of rape when it is not committed by white men. The famous example is in Rotherham UK where 1400 children were raped by Muslim gangs, and groomed in prostitution as young as 8 years of age. The right wing were not able to stop it for over a decade as they were labelled racist and islamophobic by the left and feminists. The police and a liberal local government actively covered it up and allowed it; in many cases they said the children were asking for it, essentially. An example of a feminist trying to cover up what had happened, even after the story had become official: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JmVwMNq4c
On New Years eve 1000 refugees were releasing fireworks and brawling. Gangs of refugees cornered women in subways. Only 10 police were assigned by police to manage the situation. There was one rape and 80 or so sexual assaults. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/04/revealed-1000-migrants-brawl-rape-sexually-assault-steal-one-german-train-station-new-years-eve/ . Also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046 . The story is everywhere now, including Reuters and NYT so check your favourite source.
However the default subreddits are not letting this hate speech be told. worldnews has banned it as local news, although it is front page news all across Europe many right wing papers, the number 2 story on BBC, and reported widely in America now. A moderator did however give somebody the real reason: https://i.imgur.com/21U1AIU.png .
Worst of all is that the 2XChromosomes subreddit has deleted all threads talking about the mass sexual assaults and rape in Cologne on that evening. The default sub for females is actively covering up mass sexual assault!
The silence is deafening. Leftist/Feminists enable rape by attempting to cover up assaults. They choose to virtue signal or fight for agendas that make themselves feel good, even when it results in more rapes for other women. It is the ultimate act of selfishness and hypocrisy.
I know we aren't really activists here, but we can do good by pointing out the progressivism pecking order to women that are close to us: 'oppressed' rapists come before female victims.
slavetothought 5 years ago
Women want to be raped. This should be acceptable information amongst these sort of communities. Throw women OUT of positions of power to protect civilization.
Zrex90 5 years ago
Ex muslim living in a muslim country here , all I can say is the west is crazy for receiving all these refugees , what they've gone through is sad and everything but I assure you arabs and muslims in groups like that will only be trouble for any hosting country , the religion is too toxic and the culture is too contradictory with the west values and liberties .
[deleted] 5 years ago
Good. As a Muslim, I'd say this, them ( your women) just don't like you (alpha-wannabe bluepill clowns:) They like real men, not fake-alpha-wannabe fags, that's why they go for Muslim and Black cocks, and that's why they are defending them:)
eatpraymantis 5 years ago
The Guardian, for those that dont know, was a left wing British newspaper.. maybe the print version still is. The online version has sunk into progressive click bait of the mansplaining this / gamergate that variety, and the comments are normally so far against the view of the actual writers in Cif ("comment is free" or "Comment Macht Frei" as its known do due its heavy handed moderators) that Valenti's clickbait articles now come with no comments enabled.. in "comment is free". Talk about snakes eating themselves.
They finally got around to an article about the Cologne incident today - the article itself is typical of what passes as left wing nowadays, but the comments are illuminating, all 8800 odd of them at the point they were closed. Have a read of a few, pick a random page, and see what gets the votes.
Dont be amazed at the few resident feminists who even on this issue, are trying to blame it on white men. seriously. Thats how far some of them have gone, like a lifelong shit test that has taken over their brain and now owns them, but the bulk of the comments show, in this left wing newspaper, what people actually think
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/cologne-attacks-hard-questions-new-years-eve#comments
mugatucrazypills 5 years ago
The cUckloid Kingdom will move decisively to deal with this threat by holding an emergency session of Parliament to discuss banning Trump from the realm.
He was giving Muslim gang-rapists bad feelings and has been warned of this before by their representative, John Oliver.
SpaceChris 5 years ago
German here. Feels like 1933 here. At this point, i'm not sure how to handle it. I always spoke my mind and pointed out what will happen. On the other hand, i'm kind of tired of it all. Probably time to move back to my home Budapest and let dumb germans bleed for their ignorance and (maybe) correct their problems later. Let darwinism do its magic.
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SpaceChris 5 years ago
I feel you. It is obvious that politics, judiciary and police merely exist to keep the midle class in line and productive. They don't have the power to protect us, but they do have the power to keep us from protecting ourselves. I always liked the stand your ground mentality of US americans. It liked the idea of self reliance. But now I FULLY understand the concept! It only takes one communist lunatic (google Merkels past) to destroy everything. And if you can't protect yourself, which is the case in Germany, you are basically a slave. It's true: When facism will creep back, it won't say "I'm facism", it will say "i'm antifacism". However, thanks to TRP, i became more of a facts based person. I studied history and it was always those that kept their ears to the street who survived in the end. Thank god i didn't buy property in this cuck country. Now i got a load of cash and freedom to go wherever i want to go.
[deleted] 5 years ago
I think I understand why we have the such a strong law enforcement show up and black lives matters protests. You can not have a mob of a certain group of people go unchecked when they come from a background of committing certain kinds of crimes. It acknowledgeds to the protestors that what they are doing is acceptable, and that next time they can go "harder".
mahlzeit 5 years ago
Not a German, but Austrian - pretty much the same culture though, so I think this is generally valid in the German speaking world except Switzerland (who were smart enough to not open their borders in the first place).
Public opinion was already turning, this has been going on for a few months. Back in August-September there was a genuine "all are welcome" euphoria, but once people started seeing who was coming over the borders, that euphoria fizzled out and turned into a tentative uneasiness. Governments reacted, and in about December pretty much everybody started building fences and blaming each other.
Now it's turning even faster, and the so-called "Gutmenschen" ("goodhumans", basically politically correct immigration supporters) have lost the moral high ground and lost it hard. The interesting thing from an RP-perspective is that this is the line. They've attacked the women, now it counts, apparently. Who could have predicted that?
This thing is all over social media, and while mainstream media did play it down and try to hush over it for the first few days, they have no choice but to report on it now. They're losing credibility fast, as well. It's boiling under the surface of society, people are really pissed off. I'm looking forward to Merkel's next approval rates, they're going to plummet into nothing.
Also, next month there's an important local election coming up where I live and I'm going to enjoy the shit out of the election coverage. I'm going to bunker popcorn, because I don't think the shops have as much popcorn as I'm going to need for this.
In a wider context: Poland and Hungary have already shifted to the right and an isolationist policy, and the other EE countries are either not attractive to refugees or doing the same thing. Germany and Austria will probably do the same, depending on how stupid our politicians actually are. They'll have to close the border, or they're going to have a completely antagonized citizenry on their hands. There are already frequent attacks on refugee centers. If it goes on like this we'll see actual armed nationalistic militias forming with the support of the general populace, opposing the governments. This is going to be crazy, and it all depends on how politicians handle the next months.
Keep your eyes on Europe for the next months, there are enormous changes coming, and this event is definitely a catalyst.
[deleted] 5 years ago
just what the muslim leaders want, to weaken western society from within.
[deleted] 5 years ago
I don't really think anything will change. I've been living in Germany for 6 years now and what I've noticed is that germans tend to like taking it up the ass when it comes to certain nationalities and races. It also doesn't help that the country is ran by a border-line schizophrenic deeply religious feminist.
mahlzeit 5 years ago
I know what you mean, but I'm pretty sure that'll change. I know that officially everybody tows the party line, but when people are alone and no foreigners are around and they trust each other, it's all about "das wird man ja wohl noch sagen dürfen." And I'm noticing more and more people start voicing their opinions on Facebook, people publicly supporting the right wing parties without shame, thanks to all the things that are happening.
I don't really know where it goes, I don't know if it's good or bad. On one hand the current immigration madness needs to be scaled down, on the other I hope we don't overshoot again like last time. For now I simply am enjoying the massive Denkzettel the current governments of Germany and Austria will get for their arrogance and holier-than-thou attitudes, and deservedly so.
Yeah, but how long will the people be willing to follow her? It's all fun and games as long as everything's good, but when brown people start showing up in their neighborhood and looking at their daughters, then even the most tolerant Germans will start thinking twice about what's going on.
gosserbeer 5 years ago
Austrian here, another thing that I noticed is how the big german media outlets and politicians tried to keep silent about this topic as long as they could. This happened on new years eve, yet it took almost 4 DAYS for this story to be reported in mass media. Despite police reports.
It's absolutely sickening how they only responded to it once it was clear that this was too big to just blow over. And then you have other groups trying to put the blame on the women themselfs(!) the police, or because "their culture is just different". It just makes you want to puke.
JustBet 5 years ago
1000 migrants sexually assault, rob, and rape women in a train station. Doesn't this seem a little misleading to you? Like it was 1000 migrants that did this?
trpSenator 5 years ago
Let me shed some inside information:
In Germany 4 years ago, one of the things I noticed immediately, and shared with my American friends, was how safe the country felt. I explained that all the social services gave people little incentive to commit crime. The German's looked at it as, "Yes, some people are abusing the system, but we rather provide the basics for them, rather than have them resort to crime to get by." And seriously, the country, in even the bad parts, felt safe -- the worse that would happen is you'd get scammed or have your bike stolen. But nothing serious. Walking through a poor immigrant neighborhood (mostly Turkish) brought absolutely no worry into me. Even when I went to the poor white areas, which mainly consist of radical anarchist neo-nazis, I never once felt threatened -- hostility for sure, but never any serious physical threat.
In the past, they let immigrants trickle in, so even the more hostile ones would have time to settle down and feel like a significant cultural minority. This created a lot of pressures for them to integrate into German culture.
Now, fast forward to today, and that's all changed. The mass influx of these immigrants allowed them to create ingroups where they don't need to deviate nor change from their current cultural hang ups. They aren't integrating, nor are they inviting. Today, I actually feel worried at times walking down the street. I have friends tell me about being robbed, I've seen people get punched, and stores actually broken into and robbed. It's crazy -- I'm sure it occasionally has happened in the past, but now it's actually at a frequency where I notice it. It's crazy.
In the past, when I was alone at night, drunk, walking home at 3am across a bridge in an emptied out neighborhood with everyone asleep, and saw a group of 5 brown guys walking in my direction... I wouldn't really worry. I'd just expect them walk past me, and maybe offer me some drugs for sale at the most. But now, when I see 5 immigrants walking in my direction while I'm alone and it's empty on the streets, I definitely get a slight chill.
It's crazy how much the nation has changed... And this whole thing is actually quite interesting to watch. Since the German people have a pretty MASSIVE insecurity about being seen as nationalists or racists, you get some weird groups. You have one camp of German's who just completely ignore it. They wont pick sides and try to evade the subject all together. Then you have the bleeding hearts who constantly try to defend the immigrants and make up excuses for their behavior like, "Oh they are in a new land and are having a hard time transitioning from a place of war, chaos, tyranny, etc..."... Then you got a new and interesting camp which is growing. German's who were otherwise afraid of being viewed as racist, are actually coming out and being openly against an ethnic group. I've NEVER seen that from a casual normal German in the past. The only ones that would do that would be the neo-nazis and anarchists. But now I see regular German's being openly unsupportive of it all. It's crazy.
Pretty sure this is how WWII started. Fucking aye Germany, get your shit together.
strat_op 5 years ago
Pretty accurate summary. To add onto the German Media is extremely biased in supporting the refugees at all costs. Just an example, the state controlled ZDF did not report on the Cologne matter for a whole day. Even worse is spiegel.de, the biggest online news site which first commentaries all essentially read "it may sound dangerous but blaming refugees would be racist".
However according to recent studies 41% of Germans already have the feeling that critical voices are silenced and not reported in the media. Only 25% believe the picture painted by the media does accurately reflect the situation and the refugees entering Germany.
Disillusi0n 5 years ago
"They're friendly until they outnumber you."
caviarpropulsion 5 years ago
this post makes me hug my folder with love and adoration one reserves for a child. No, I won't bin it.
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warsie 4 years ago
the "jewish communist boogeyman" was true, because jews were overrepresented in communist movement. I don't consider that a bad thing, but that is true.
l0ng_time_lurker 5 years ago
Yeah had to gift gold for those platinum lines of truth.
trpSenator 5 years ago
Not needed, but much appreciated
Maddin143 5 years ago
there's a german saying - "wehret den Anfängen" (beware of the beginnings(?)). I agree with you, there is currently a situation evolving, that is a very fertile ground for hatred.
However, as long as there is no real economic downside to refugees everyone in Germany feels, i don't think this will boil over.
But enter the next economical crisis. Things will change then.
One more piece of information: the gangs raping these women were not refugees of the current syrian crisis. They were a minority already known to the police.
throwaway320_ 5 years ago
The 'refugees' travel from 'Syria' through a lot of safe, mostly European countries to get to Germany. That makes you wonder if they go to these north-western countries for the safety or for the welfare state.
Maddin143 5 years ago
or if they just have heard of Germany. I am from Austria, and we had a lot of Syrians travelling through to Germany.
I think this isn't solely a 'let's use the welfare state', but more of a we-don't-really-know-anything-about-the-other-countries thing.
Many Syrians didn't really know anything about Austria.
Planner_Hammish 5 years ago
Sounds like the "Eternal September" only IRL
ArcadesRed 5 years ago
Anger and nationalism, one tends to feed the other in a situation like this. Frankly, when it all goes to hell, I wont be able to level judgement against them. In 10 years I would be surprised if the German government looks remotely like today.
EpsonXP100 5 years ago
Is hugo boss listed on the nyse? I might have to grab some shares before they get a contract to make uniforms for German military
Valentinus9171 5 years ago
Say what you will, those black uniforms still look amazing. Really projects an aura of power, order and self-discipline.
Dis_mah_mobile_one 5 years ago
Never gonna happen. The BundesHeer doesn't have the budget to go back to Hugo Boss
vandaalen 5 years ago
It's even worse than that in my opinion. It is modus operandi especially for Muslim groups.
As long as they percieve themselves to be weaker and a minority, they will keep their heads down and play nice, but as soon as they've got leverage their behaviour will change drastically.
That's even how Mohammed behaved. All those tolerant things he said about people with other religious believes, where made when Islam was a rather small movement and as soon as they rose to power, the commandments of violence where propagated.
Combine this with the Muslim concept of abrogation, and you know, why ISIL are in fact the real Muslims and not the paper Muslims.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Seriously do the scholars of islam who condemn isis (the majorityis mean anything to you? You think you are an adequate judge of who is a real or paper Muslim?
And I'm not talking about any scholars who are simply pandering to the media to seem good. Im talking about scholars who don't care about what non Muslims think and have other backwards views and will still condemn isis.
Although I agree that this covering up of bad news is an atrocious attack on freedom of press, I must disagree on the common trope that these mongrels follow "true islam". The scholars who studied the prophets life disagree. And they disagree not to appease people, but because they only care about the preservation of their religion. And truly they are more educated in the religion than the isis frauds.
vandaalen 5 years ago
No, because up to 70% of Muslims are at least sympathetic to ISIL, and if they don't care about the opinion of some scholars who don't, neither do I, since they have become insignificant.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Okay this is a different line than you were saying previously. You were saying how Isis are truly following Islam where I tried to say that is incorrect. You now say that due to support of Isis by Muslims the scholars don't matter. Fair enough but that does not mean Isis follow true Islam. As for actual support of Isis among Muslims, I myself am a Muslim and can attest that the supporters of Isis in Muslim majority countries are mostly put of the know of what they are really like. They only hear the propaganda but never the atrocities. As for the Muslims in western countries who support Isis, they are the least knowledgeable about Islam and so are easiest to deceive. Regardless of this, I would disagree on the numbers that support Isis. Living in the biggest Muslim community in my Western country, I can tell you that nobody who goes to the mosque supports them.
Research which shows seemingly high rates of support often has more ambiguous Language e.g one poll saying Muslims support terrorism actually asked if they support fighters in Syria, which for many who followed the situation early on would agree with as there were many "good" groups fighting. My last point would be to look at the link below and understand the reasons for support in these countries.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/
trpSenator 5 years ago
When it comes to the Muslims, they are actually pretty upset about it, because it's making them look bad, and essentially making their life harder while they try to get by. However, Muslims tend to turn a blind eye to things. So while they don't necessarily like what's going on, they don't really speak out actively against it.
vandaalen 5 years ago
People coming from Muslim countries or having been brought up with such background are not necessarily Muslims in my opinion.
There are many here in Germany (I happen to live in Cologne by the way) who self-identify as Muslim, but they are actually only holding onto some of the rituals, like i.e. mutilating their boy's genitals or not eating pork, in the same way that many Westerners practice Christmas and Easter and self-identify as being part of a Christian culture, but they are actually no Christians.
Talking about ISIL, the majority of practicing (sunny) Muslims at the very least sympathize with them. Especially the men.
The NYE-incedents are perfectly congruent with what I have learnt about the opinion many Muslims have of us Germans and especially our women. We are all dirty infidel cowards and that is why it is perfectly acceptable to lie to us, rip us off, etc. pp. and all our women are dirty whores (mostly true unfortunately). What you can take, that is yours - women included.
Working in the kitchen with many Muslims especially from Africa, I've witnessed the lifecycle of a first generation young male Muslim in Germany more than once.
They come here and they are shocked about the cultural differences and especially how women are allowed to behave. After some time - usually 3-9 months - they will loosen up. They have made friends with other guys from their home countries, and they explained to them, that it's perfectly OK to fuck German women before marriage, since they are dirty whores and it doesn't count. They'll also be partying very hard. some only take drugs, some other start selling.
They will simultaniously start looking for an ugly landwhale to marry. Once they got that, their status of residency will be changed to permanent.
They will wait for three years, which is the minimum period of time when their status cannot be revoked, and then divorce from the bitch. Divorce rape isn't as bad here in Germany and they will mostly still be students, so there is nothing to gain from them anyways.
They will then go and get a "good" woman to marry from their homecountry. Depending from where they are, that woman now has to wear the appropriate headwear or even a burka and everything in between.
They will then also start living the life of a good and devout Muslim.
football1010 5 years ago
Be careful not to confuse Salafi/Wahhabi beliefs with traditional Islam, Salafis/wahhabis are a creation of the west along with Daesh/ISIS/ISIL/al Qaeda and the states that sponsor them like Saudi Arabia. If you want to learn true islam then you must study Shia Islam. Billions have literally been spent to propagate salafi/wahhabi beliefs as actually islamic. Don't fall for the deception.
vandaalen 5 years ago
Thank you, but no thank you.
angryuser_trp 5 years ago
We now know that tha Saudis are spending huge amounts of money to propagate Wahhabism/Salafism. We need to get our politicians to start paying attention to this and outlaw this abomination. From what I know the Shia Islam is not that different from Sunni however. It still has Jihad and the same propagation methods. Those conquered would still have to pay jizya. While it surely is lesser evil compared to Salafism/Wahhabism, it is still not the religion I would deem compatible with European culture.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. But Shiites do not have a different version of Quran. And as long as Quran remains unchanged from it's original version, Islam will continue to produce jihadist extremists thinking they get some bonus point for turning others to their faith or by even killing them if necessary.
The primary difference is the religious organization. Let's talk about Iran - there was some back and forth in it's secularism, but currently the Shia Clergy runs the state - a theocracy. Theocracy may or may not be a bad thing. But we're still talking about Islam. And unless the Shiites have made some changes in aggressiveness in their version of Islam that I'm not aware of, it does little to make me like Shia more.
But please, explain what other differences are there. I'll gladly learn something new.
football1010 5 years ago
Muslims are not compelled to propagate the religion. I'm not sure where you got that idea. There is no compulsion in religion, in Islamic belief. Jihad is traditionally a personal struggle and only aggressive against an outside force as a reactionary measure of counter resistance. Nobody likes paying taxes so I understand not liking the jizya, but at least those under that system receive actual benefits, like protection and not serving in the army.
PM me if you want to further discuss religion, because it's not really a red pill topic outside of not falling for media lies.
unseen1unknown 5 years ago
It's hard to tell if Germany is completely cucked or if the people who are against this massive immigration are just being censored so heavily. On the news here in Australia a couple of weeks ago they tried to say that neo nazis had rioted against police.
I have the feeling though that it would of just been normal people fighting against Anti Fascists and SJWs and the police but again I dont know.
The elite definitely fucked up big by trying to implement their policies of replacing germans with the Middle east so quickly. That whole arguement of needing immigrants to pay for all the social security the baby boomers promised themselves can fuck right off
nzgs 5 years ago
Don't refer to them as "anti fascists", it's the kind of hijacking of language these people want and you are validating it. They are the fascists, authoritarian fascists.
[deleted] 5 years ago
german here. there is a massive bias going in in the media. it borders on pure propaganda. if refugees are presented in the media, its always children, women with children, or the occasional doctor from syria.
the event in cologne on NYE didnt even show up on the most important news sites like spiegel or zeit until the 3rd or 4th of january.
sqrt7744 5 years ago
Too many good German men died / were "disappeared" during and after the war. Basically a whole generation was raised by single moms. The result was quite inevitable - a feminized culture, with "emacipated" women and dickless dudes. The dominant culture is psychologically damaging for youth in general. Add public schooling and censored media (aka brainwashing) to the mix and you end up with a generation of clueless, helpless wimps. Women who think they can do everything a man can yet irrationally extend their feminine love (which ought to be reserved for husband and family) to a world of foreigners that only want to abuse it, and men who are incapable of defending themselves or their society due to some mutant variant of good will.
warsie 4 years ago
The same traits happened after WWI though, why a different eeling after WWI?
tigerjaws 5 years ago
I think that it's actually that people are starting to realize what a mistake it was to allow 1 million of those 'refugees' in. It's just that the media is controlled by the leftist/feminist agenda trying to push it, so you don't really hear the people's voices. From what i've been reading online, people actually are developing very negative views about the refugees. I find it hilarious how the feminists are openly trying to push Islam without realizing that it will genuinely impose a REAL patriarchy
herpy_McDerpster 5 years ago
Lol 1 million. More. Many more.
[deleted] 5 years ago
even worse, its 1 million in one year. in the same year, only 700k people were born in germany.
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throwaway320_ 5 years ago
Don't forget about family reunions. IIRC, 80% of the migrants are young men, with likely having a woman and children back home.
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CobraBanshee 5 years ago
One of the biggest mistakes in recent history
cadthrower 5 years ago
They definitely cucked. Northern European males are extremely beta. All of them are skinny and look like 16 year old boys with patchy beards. Thats why all their women go on trips to the Mediterranean every year to get fucked by swarthy individuals who actually have game.
macksdowntownsong 5 years ago
This is complete nonsense, if anything, it is Southern European women throwing themselves at the handsome blonde men from the North. Northern European men are also much more taller compared t other average short Italian.
cadthrower 5 years ago
Not from what I hear. Doesn't matter if you are tall if you are a shy beta.
macksdowntownsong 5 years ago
Ya because Germans and Scandinavian men are all shy. Darker and swarthier European women are suckers for blonde hair and blue eyed men. As for Scandinavian and Nordic women, true, they love going for darker guys and a lot of them even go interracial with black and brown men.
cadthrower 5 years ago
Destruction of the white race.
eccentricrealist 5 years ago
It's pretty fucking sad. Germany used to be my dream, man, I was planning to move to Berlin once I'd gained a good amount of passive income. If I ever get to that point, though, I'm going somewhere more rational like Australia, with their tighter immigration policy, because there's no way I'm voluntarily going to a warzone.
sqrt7744 5 years ago
Yeah, fuck this place. The Germans aren't having children though, so they're accelerating the decline. Birthrate fell to the lowest in the whole world - even though the massive number of children the immigrants are having is included in the statistics, so the actual Germans are having even less than the stats would imply. There will be no war here, for a war there has to be two sides. One side is actively committing cultural suicide.
angryuser_trp 5 years ago
I don't understand why is that so? Are all the Germans working so hard that they don't have the time to ease in and have a bunch of kids? For the record, I'm from Czech republic, right next to Germany...
Surely it can't be financial issue... Kids in reality do not cost all that much. Sure, there's an initial investment considering the number of accessories needed, but a lot of that is reusable and doesn't have to be bought again with other kids they could have. So what is the fucking problem?
Are all of them viewing kids as a hassle? I got a kid myslef and another is on the way. My daughter's fucking delighted to see me come home from work and do some rough-housing after. Obviously it's more difficult to visit all the places you normally could go to, but once they grow up a little, there's little validity to the so-often-heard argument of 'being locked at home for life'.
As much as I can't stand Islam, there's one thing that oviously makes it work - keep the women at home and have plenty of kids with them. With all the equality being thrown around, it would seem that women seeking career instead of having children is the primary reason why entire West has reproduction issues.
sqrt7744 5 years ago
I have two myself and want more, so I'm with you. The birthrate problem is multi-faceted, there are many reasons. Cultural more than financial IMO.
Many attractive young women waste years studying worthless crap at the university, whoring the whole time, on the pill -> many end up infertile, or get so caught up in the student life that by the time they are "ready" to start a family, the biological clock has almost run out. The result is one or no kids. Our degenerate "health insurance" pays for this by subsidizing the pill and offering "free" abortions.
I'm a physician at a fairly large regional hospital. Our gynecologists, whom I hate, perform more abortions on young German women than live births. Sick, sick culture we live in.
Many, after completing vocational training refrain from having a family to get ahead at their jobs. The sister of a friend of mine, for example, won't have children so she can get a permanent position at the travel agency she is training at!! How fucked up is that?
Having more than, say, 2 kids is socially alienating. People consider it "antisocial".
Many are unsure of the future of this shithole of a country and don't want to raise kids in such an atmosphere, thereby compounding the problem. Who wants to send their potential future children to a ghetto school? And home schooling is illegal here, so your kids get taken away and you wind up in jail.
I doubt the Czech replublic is much better...
angryuser_trp 5 years ago
This topic has been on my mind for a while already. The thought of going into politics and doing something about it has crossed my mind a couple times before. Problem is it ain't that simple unless you're already rich, famous or got contacts in the right places. Besides, that kind of life is not what I want for myself.
So right now my goal is to just lead by example. Do things right myself. If people ask why do I complicate my life with this (like having kids, for example... believe it or not, people are genuinely asking why was the first one not enough), I explain with facts. And also shame them for being part of the problem especially if they complained about our nation dying out at some point themselves. Shaming is a powerful tool...
Couple years back I read about one Jewish woman that had many kids. She also taught her children that having a big family is basically their goal in life. For the life of me I can't find the article now, but the point was that her family grew very big very fast thanks to her children teaching the same stuff to their own children... Something like 80+ people made up the whole family while she was still alive IIRC. I'm thinking of trying to achieve something similar.
Problem is the moral codex that the children should have. Since I am an atheist, I can't refer to some scripture and say "there, this is how it should be"... And it is true that although religion may just be a tool to control the masses, it provides moral values to many (except Islam, that'll just teach ya to chop heads in the end). I'm thinking I could write down something of my own. Not a religion obviously, but some kind of guidance to fall back on to keep the kids on the right track, hmmm...
sqrt7744 5 years ago
Referring to your political thoughts, don't even get me started. You wouldn't get anywhere, politics is a dead end. Just imagine a politician promoting actual solutions to the above problems, starting with the first point. Ain't gonna happen, and even if it did, he'd be utterly destroyed and lose at the polls - not only because the mass media would have a field day making fun of his policies and manufacturing fake consensus for the status quo, but because virtually every woman and a majority of their manwhores would vote against him. The only plausible way to effect real change is to slowly but surely make the state irrelevant by supporting alternative solutions wherever possible, and supporting any and every attempt to reduce the size and scope of government.
As for the moral aspect, what you are saying reminds me of Kant's "categorical imperative", but really it's an empty philosophy. Without God, everything is arbitrary, so it makes little sense to not live as a self-centered hedonist. I wish you luck, however, but also would recommend a reassessment of your religious stance (FWIW I'm a traditional catholic).
angryuser_trp 5 years ago
Indeed. Politics-wise, the general populace wants solution, but only as long as it doesn't mean they'd have to get their own hands dirty in the process :)
I haven't heard about Categorical Imperative before, so I'm gonna read on that later today. Truly, without God, many may perceive everything as arbitrary. However even Christianity still has potential to get silly. There still are people representing the voice of God that could draw power from their position, so it inherently still is susceptible to misuse. I may even go as far and say that I believe in something. I just don't think the representation of God in the sky is the right one, nor Allah with his virgins, most certainly not Scientologists, Ashtar Sheran, or anything else like that. All of these have structure with people in positions of power and I don't feel like promoting them by becoming a believer in said religion.
I don't want to promote worship in something imaginary (ie. something people claim for hundreds of years that exists but nobody has seen yet). I don't want something with power structure. But then anything without power structure falls quickly to opposition that has it. I'm probably going way out of my scope now...
so I'll have to do a lot more research before I talk more crap about this topic.
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PlayerXz 5 years ago
I know exactly what you mean, I grew up with two siblings and people constantly commented on how busy it must be at home. Two children per family is the norm in western culture, if you want more you are going to run into some problems.
These are just some of the top of my head. There are probably many more, if you look carefully you can see the 2 children norm is pretty much everywhere.
angryuser_trp 5 years ago
Goddamn, you couldn't be anymore right! Just 2 weeks ago I was discussing with wife about having the third eventually and some of the things you mentioned came up - mainly getting a lot bigger car.
Now don't get me wrong, I was planning on getting a new one in a few years anyway, but I was thinking about the Tesla 3. Which obviously isn't going to cut it with three kids if you think about it. And I'm really not gonna be able to afford the Model X (even though my salary is already pretty high given my country's standards...).
Luckily, in Czech republic the state still provides free university education, although there have been talks about making people pay for it lately. So who knows what's it gonna be like in the next 15 years. If it comes to it that education needs to be paid for, I'm sure as hell am not gonna shell out a single penny unless it's STEM field. I'm seeing a trend that skillful people without degree can make a lot more money compared to someone else with bullshit degree.
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"Going to a warzone"... I live in cologne and i feel soo fucking safe. We are far from a warzone. This may be about my neighbourhood, but living here is totally fine and i haven't been scared once since i moved here.
In my little hometown, with about 7000 inhabitants, around 150 immigrants moved into one of our two gyms two months ago. I went there two times when i was back from cologne to see that these people are absolutely fine. It is so much fun to talk to them and show them how to speak german. They are so friendly and thankfull. A friend of mine even had sex with a 17-year old of those people. This is how I, as a german, see my surrounding. This situation might change more or less, but right now, it's absolutely fine. As long as you don't move to cities like Duisburg or Essen with their criminal groups of people, who are not immigrated at all and living in their "own" neighborhoods.
indeydius 5 years ago
Islam is going to cause re-feminisation and reversion to gender roles wherever it reaches a critical mass in the West (7-15%). Women are nothing if not pragmatic at an instinctual level. The Mayor of Cologne (a woman) proposed updating the "code of conduct" for women, telling them to maintain a distance from strangers in public and to only go out in groups ( https://archive.is/WV1wN ). In the US that would be called victim blaming.
In the hierarchy of oppression, immigrants are seen as higher than women or children because the Left must side with the underdog and it must side with an underdog that makes it appear maximally anti-xenophobic. Michel Houellebecq predicted this in his novel Submission.
Islamic male cultural frame is stronger than Western male cultural frame. People know this instinctually. Women will adapt by re-feminizing because it is the only option open to them. It's a response to power. There will be feminists attempts to tame Islamic culture but it will take generations.
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no there won't. they will submit like they always do and be taken as warbrides. Women don't fight real threats, they talk a big game, but yeah..no.
bluedrygrass 5 years ago
Feminists crave to be raped and submitted by some unpredictable masculine strange. Not gonna happen, it's exactly what they're aiming for.
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There is nothing to understand. It is a petty power grab by women. They do not go against muslims, because muslims will smack them in the face and won't take their shit. They like easy targets. They wouldn't be doing this if there were actual danger, or associating with feminism made women look bad.
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sqrt7744 5 years ago
The solution is simple. Decriminalize firearms. I'd make sure my wife carried a gun and knew how to use it.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 5 years ago
lol, that'll happen in Europe
sqrt7744 5 years ago
With any luck the state will become irrelevant so their laws won't matter, just voluntary interaction and free markets. Not going to happen tomorrow, but shit like this just makes it more likely. Either that or the idiots will successfully turn this country into another socialist "utopia" or Syria part 2.
chances_are_ur_a_fag 5 years ago
I truly hope to see free markets in my time
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to be fair, didn't woodstock 99 have 8 rapes and god knows how many assaults? (depends on where you look, but somewhere between 2 and 8)
I get the ragebait on this, but it's a strawman. It's not justified immigrant hate, it's police fucking up. I'm from a redneck town, and if there wasn't a shit ton of fights during a celebration, then I assumed someone had made a beer run.
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I was banned from world news for debating with a leftist if Islam was a Fascist ideology or not. I provided some key polling data and excerpts directly from the Quran, personal experiences, accounts from former Muslims and historical documents on the early history of Islam; I then compared them to actual fascist documents/quotes. The libtard was "baffled" at my "racist" (they didnt see that irony) assertation. (whether you believe this or not, the debate still can be had)
When I was banned it said "for making gross generalizations about an entire religion"....Even though the discussion was entirely civil (surprisingly from both sides). How the hell am I supposed to speak about Islam without making generalizations? Generalizations are how people communicate about groups efficently...
Okay so I have lived with and worked with Muslims my entire life. I count them as some of my best friends, but that means I've also seen some messed up things. Like when my best friend in high school told me he would make sure he would behead me cleanly if the "great war" ever happened (from Iran), thanks dude. Or when my buddy's Muslim mother (Pakistan) literally beat his sister within inches of her life for wearing makeup in high school.
These aren't "gross generalizations" but the actual reality of either the culture or religion, these things are simply not the norm in western society. I love Muslims and for that reason I want to see them fix or improve out of this medieval way of thinking. Unfortunately, the left rather defend this affront to western values to appease some kind of "white/colonial guilt".
They want sooo badly to "fix" white male culture/society but refuse to "fix" Muslim male culture. Luckily for us, its one of their most blatant hypocrisies and only further pushes them outside the norm.
warsie 4 years ago
Fascism is a very specific thing to say. Ba'athism as an ideology, ok fascism. Islam as a religion? Uhhh, no.
perhaps sunni islamist groups like ISIS. perhaps
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Hey. I know this is a pretty unintelligent question and inconsistent with the tone of this thread, But.... is your friend's sister okay? What happened to the mother? Did the justice system react? Did the school ask questions? I am actually internally cringing due to my woman-empathy. I am truly heartbroken for that girl and all the other women who face similar injustices because of Islam.... Like, really. (Like, seriously, man.) I've been obsessively reading about Islam and the Islamic countries lately and I've become... very sad.
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Islam is a filthy religion that is violent through and through. Liberals will never understand this.
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MachiavellianRed 5 years ago
Rest assured we won't be censoring discussion of this on our subreddit.
EDIT: Assumedly paid shills or muslims reported the thread that came up before on this subject until the automod canned it. We've hard-authorised this one, so file as many reports as you like and it won't go anywhere.
In fact, if you want to hide the truth because it offends you, if you're going to emotionally align with rapists because you can't BEAR to have anything negative said about about "your people," feel free to unsubscribe from this subreddit. The close-minded and easily offended are not welcome here, we haven't got time for your bullshit sensibilities here.
Free speech will reign here, so suck it up or fuckoff.
spectrum_92 5 years ago
But thats simply not true. Posts and comments here which do not adhere to TRP narrative are routinely deleted at an alarming rate
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interestedplayer 5 years ago
Yeah on our sexual strategy subreddit...
Thengine 5 years ago
Yet, it is total hypocrisy from the mods. Have you read Rule Zero in the sidebar? Free Speech is not taken lightly here. Differing opinions will result in a ban.
That is not how a truth seeker should act. They act noble, when it suits them. When someone pisses them off, they act like SJWs and use the banhammer.
anangryterrorist 5 years ago
I'd wager it's best statement that will ever be said on this site.
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mrj0ker 5 years ago
I want that to be the motto where I live at all times
nuesuh 5 years ago
Agreed. Best comment I've read in the past week. I'm glad this subreddit resists corruption.
Thengine 5 years ago
Yet, it is total hypocrisy from the mods. Have you read Rule Zero in the sidebar? Free Speech is not taken lightly here. Differing opinions will result in a ban.
That is not how a truth seeker should act. They act noble, when it suits them. When someone pisses them off, they act like SJWs and use the banhammer.
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interestedplayer 5 years ago
So its free speech to intentionally misrepresent points to support your point. Check my posting history, im as red as they come. But this is blatant white supremacism. Let us go down the route of CH then.... if one rape CLAIM (and we know how tenuous these are) suddenly means 1000 refugees are raping people. WE OUT OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE SCEPTICAL OF SUCH CLAIMS.
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[deleted] 5 years ago
Both OPs post and your response are insightful, realistic and true.
I liked this sub before. Now I also respect it.
MrGudmoore 5 years ago
I wish I could give you more than one upvote.
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[deleted] 5 years ago
I would say Feminist or sjw types because who would pay shills to report it? The rape lobby?
occupythekitchen 5 years ago
This is a gold mine for them especially WoC there is a movement that wants white women to mate and have darker babies ending white oppression. So if they get pregnant through rape better yet, feminists goals are to keep women oppressed they are a no end movement
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I'd bet good money its paid shills. The refugee crisis into europe has been incredibly heavily PR managed. There is no way muslim users would be floating around every sub on reddit and working this particular story so heavily it does not slip through their net anywhere. Only an organised, well resourced, pre-emptive approach could do that.
There are multiple powerful groups that want high levels of muslim refugees in Europe. People keep blaming feminist/muslims/lefties. They're just unorganised canon fodder. They're mostly usless without professional organisation (and money) behind the scenes
Overkillengine 5 years ago
The refugees are a good boogeyman to dangle in front of the average citizen to get them to beg to have more of their rights taken away in the guise of protecting them.
It's why the refugees got let into those countries in the first place. Humanitarianism is just a wonderful plausible deniability cover.
MachiavellianRed 5 years ago
This is an insightful statement, I will amend my original comment to reflect this.
timschwartz 5 years ago
Two questions:
Who exactly do you think is paying these shills?
Isn't it possible that someone disagrees with you without being a shill or a muslim?
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ChadThundercockII 5 years ago
I am Muslim user and doesn't give a shit about what is being posted. Europe brought it on itself. I am sitting here enjoying the shit show.
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TheRedTrader 5 years ago
Which powerful groups benefit exactly?
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I don't want to turn this into a politics post but
German/European business elites:
a) When the Turkish ecenomy picked up their large pool of German/Turk low cost labour started shrinking as German Turks moved to Turkey. They need an alternative to keep wages down. A million or Syrian refugees who don't even have citizenship wourd be great.
b) They hope to implement more austerity policies which are wildly unpopular in Europe. By dividing the public on the issue of refugees they can play the right and left off against each other and slip austerity through. There is a massive left wing anti-austerity movement in Europe that is increasingly successful. The Left's refugee friendly stance damages it politically if there are lots of refugees
Arab Gulf States:
If Europe gets flooded with refugees then maybe the European governments will try stop it at the nource ie interevene militarily in Syria against Assad. Effectively using Europeans/Westerners to fight as the military of Saudi/Qatar/etc who have shit militaries.
Turkey:
Same as the Gulf states. But also Turkey more directly controls the flow of refugees as many of the camps are un its borders. They ramp up or ramp down the refugee flow to get deals out of Europe
US Defense elites:
Basically the name as the Gulf States. They would love to intervene directly in Syria but can't as they look idiots after Iraq so have no credibility with the rent of the US elite and public . They need European involvement to intervene directly
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Was going to say, isn't this why Poland? Europes Mexico?
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This is just me, but Mexicans are Catholic( so share a religous identity). A percentage want to come here, keep their heads low, create a family or support a family either here or back home. There are a lot of bad older and young Mexican males that come out here to the US, the U.S.A. legal system is strong enough to correct thier behavior.
They stick to their ethnic enclaves, they know they are unwelcome in this country if they do anything stupid. They know they will go to jail or be deported, and the ones that do crimes, rape, etc. are put in the U.S. prison system(the ultimate nightmare for them because they hate jail more than most Americans, also, they are towards the lower end of the prison Hierarchy).
After a generation or two most Latin-American immigrants go either go down these couple routes.
--If they cant adjust to the American way of life in all its values, they give up and go back to Latin America.
-- The ones that understand American values do their best to assimilate. Assimilating has its downsides, but they are so many upsides its worth it and they see it(ones that dont see it never enter mainstream American society). Ones that can enter mainstream society do, those that can not stick to the ethnic enclaves. There are a lot of unmannered Latinos in this group, but they understand if they do not play by the rules, the hammer will come down.
-- The ones that want to act like themselves in Mexico (savage poor people, except without supervision of a community) in this american lifestyle. They do not pickup the good habits and feel they should be able to live like they did Mexico here in the United States, except in a way they see it as free for all too (Muslim Refugees see Europe as a free for all, touch white women no repercussions, being fed and housed at the same time with no work). In time they go to prison or get deported, a percentage never bear offspring here in the USA. These are the guys that are acting like the Muslim Migrants that do not know they are unwelcome guests for their behavior. I am happy these guys get deported because they ruin it for whatever positive Latinos are out here.
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cheap labour, enabled to be used by free trade laws.
flow of labour, detrimental to local labour, but a boon to capital investment
[deleted] 5 years ago
That would also be my question. I don't want to argue, I'm just curious.
Jujinomena 5 years ago
IMO Mods are only there to protect their users from spam/scam etc. whilst leaving any opinions ready to discuss.
Spidertech500 5 years ago
I argue that last sentence is a very fair statement, we have quality because our moderation is so super heavy handed. Having said that's, we're talking about something no one else isn't. That's good
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As a Pakistani muslim in UK I support this. Wtf were these people even thinking?
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Sure. That wasn't the intent, even if it came across such
FiveLions 5 years ago
This gave me goosebumps. Redpill has been so hard for me to swallow and I think I will continue to swallow it for a lifetime, but you guys are my people...I feel like this is war for good and evil..I really do.
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NotMyFinalAccount 5 years ago
Fuck yeah you just got my dick hard with all that freedom
michael_wilkins 5 years ago
What exactly was it reported for? and how many times?
RedPillAnonymous 5 years ago
As abhorrent as rape is, I don't see why we should care about this as a community. If this had been a bunch of angry Muslims cutting the foreskins off of 100 white German men, feminist cackling would be heard across the Atlantic.
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I love how they claim they took it down because it was being "brigaded" by 4chan. It's not like 4chan made the story up. They are simply moving it to the top of your forum. Considering how that's a topic that should be of a lot of interest to women in general, and women in Germany, specifically, it's pretty disingenuous to cite that as a reason for canning it from 2X.
Bunch o dumb ass hypocrites. >_>
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MAYOR BEE MAYOR BEE!
Last fucking bastion of freedom left right here
ArchangelleFuckOff 5 years ago
They have a thread now, but they've Automod-locked it and it's a sea of [deleted].
I wish the feminist hypocrisy was surprising. I just feel terrible for European women, when not even women's advocates are standing up for them in the face of rape.
flyercomet 5 years ago
The heartened exhortation for free speech is a wonderful thing to see here. Cheers to you mods. Fuck the censors with a rusty spike.
malariasucks 5 years ago
wow and the news links dont say who did all of these things... but they didnt speak german or english... who does that leave?!
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Quirkybeaver 5 years ago
I love you
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TheZooveGroover 5 years ago
Funny. my other account was banned for making a perfectly salient argument. I'm not trying to derail the discussion or anything, just pointing out that not even you, oh glorious redpill mods, are so virtuous as to be trusted with absolute power. Thank you for doing the right thing on this subject however.
Fedupandlost 5 years ago
And this is why red pill is the best sub, thank you.
Thengine 5 years ago
Yet, it is total hypocrisy from the mods. Have you read Rule Zero in the sidebar? Free Speech is not taken lightly here. Differing opinions will result in a ban.
That is not how a truth seeker should act. They act noble, when it suits them. When someone pisses them off, they act like SJWs and use the banhammer.
If they could tolerate differing beliefs, then it would be a good sub. But they cannot.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Thanks for the info, that's why my comment got removed.....
Thengine 5 years ago
Yes, it is total hypocrisy from the mods. Have you read Rule Zero in the sidebar? Free Speech is not taken lightly here. Differing opinions will result in a ban.
That is not how a truth seeker should act. They act noble, when it suits them. When someone pisses them off, they act like SJWs and use the banhammer.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Yep. It's not like I was being a leftie/feminist any way possible, I was actually arguing with a Liberal and the mods still deleted my comment.
Icanus 5 years ago
I love TRP
the open-mindedness and free speech here are amazing
[deleted] 5 years ago
Except my thread which was coincidentally removed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3zlp7u/twox_covering_up_actual_rape_story_unfortunately/
MachiavellianRed 5 years ago
Yes that wasn't us, that was our automod (a bot) who removes anything that reaches X number of reports (your thread got a lot of reports)
We're going to leave that one removed as this one has come up now and we don't want two threads at once on the same topic.
Sucks your thread got removed, but rest assured it was the users gaming the system whilst no moderators were around to do anything about it - we didn't silence your thread.
DnicF 5 years ago
I was one of the people that reported it, but not because I'm part of some kind of conspiracy, I'm actually a (usually lurking, but nevertheless) avid reader of the sub. I just didn't think it added much to the sub in terms of content, as is the case for this thread.
Could you explain what the value of this thread is on the sub, because in my opinion it has not much to do with sexual strategy and everything to do with right wing politics.
MachiavellianRed 5 years ago
If I explain the value of this thread on the sub it presupposes it has no value and that its value must be proven, I reject this notion. So I'm not going to explain its value, but rather I'm going to share my opinion.
Clearly judging the community's interest in this topic, it's something they wish to discuss. If our natural philosophical enemies (eg: feminists) don't want to discuss this? Then it's probably worth discussing.
We discussed Rotherham as well, I know these topics are distasteful, but it doesn't mean they should not be discussed. The community cares about these things and they don't feel they have anywhere else to discuss it, so who are we to stop them? Sorry bro you're not talking about how to get your dick wet on Tinder, so we're going to have to can this one?
As far as I am concerned the failings of feminist-friendly political policy, eg: allow foreign invaders into your borders to rape your women, is about as relevant as any thread that comes up discussing how feminist rape culture hysteria on campus is nonsense. If one wishes to be tenuous, although a macro rather than micro level issue, feminist rape culture hysteria effects your sexual strategy just like ACTUAL rape culture does, which this is.
If we allow people to post threads about how feminist rape culture is bullshit, but then silence threads about ACTUAL RAPE CULTURE because "it's right wing politics that has nothing to do with sexual strategy" we'd be monumental hypocrites.
To be honest, and I've said this before, I think TRP has grown larger in scope than the humbleness of its sidebar description. Should it become a meta problem, I will petition extensively for the support of these threads within TRP (we don't want it to become the main focus, obviously, but I believe they have a place here.)
DnicF 5 years ago
I wasn't challenging the subject, but rather the content of the threads in terms of adding value, which I thought it lacked. To me the threads had an air of "Hai gaiz, this happpnd!" vibe to them, which directly contradicts the new Rule Zero and more specifically this line:
> Write anything in here that sets some other goal (moralizing, showing off, political agenda, etc) above that goal? Banned.
Now if you want to change that and you feel you want to interpret the rule differently to have a place to discuss this kind of shit, that's your job and not mine. I wasn't aware of this, however, which is why I reported the thread. Not because we're not talking about how to get your dick wet on Tinder.
MachiavellianRed 5 years ago
Yes, this is hardly political agenda. He hasn't called for closing the borders, has he? He's merely reporting. Under your interpretation, anything that is macro level gender politics related is a political agenda and therefore should not be discussed. This is silly, as we have a men's rights flair, and one could easily argue that men's right is a political agenda.
It is my belief your interpretation of Rule Zero is off, and certainly, us mods do not create rules for people to reinterpret them in a way we did not intend. Quickest way to get banned? Try and weaponize the rules against a mod.
Big difference between reporting something that happened, and a call to action. One is a statement of fact, the other is a political agenda in action - this is a vital distinction.
If the politics are gender related, being a subreddit about sexual strategy, we are obviously going to discuss it. If you want to talk about environmentalism? This isn't the place for that. Again, I shouldn't need to make this distinction, you should already know this.
Naturally, I am benevolent enough to publicly have this discussion up until a point I believe it is no longer of benefit to the community. I could've easily removed your posts and ignored you (is more time efficient), but I think the community can gain benefit from better understanding how I/we operate.
This is not about my feelings, and you are on precarious ground for testing my tolerance by implying it is. Don't think I don't see the subtle neg there, that's in poor taste.
I know young guys especially get a kick out of testing/questioning/holding to account anyone they perceive as an authority (even strangers on the internet who have built a community they benefit from), and then go cry NAZI and censorship when they get banned for agitating a mod. This is a thankless job, and those such as yourself who are perhaps well-meant or perhaps not (we can't tell, so we have to assume concern trolling most of the time) only make it harder.
We've had plenty of guys do this before, we're still here running one of the most successful men's communities on the internet, they're on a new Reddit account lying low because even though they're juvenile enough to try and AMOG the mods that built and maintained this place, they would hate to lose access to that same space the people they disrespect maintain.
Rest assured, along with the other moderators, I have helped to benevolently guide this community for the best part of two years, a community you would not have the pleasure of utilising were it not for the efforts of my colleagues and I. Sure I sound a dick saying that, but this is the reality.
You are right about one thing though:
Exactly.
A little more appreciation and a little less passive aggression would go a long way, thanks.
Better yet if you ask us in mod mail rather than in public like this, we're more likely to assume you're genuine rather than a troll who wants to seem edgy for taking on a mod. Benevolent dictatorship is how we run this place, we've said it before, it's not a democracy. I will discuss this no further with you.
FlintShaman 5 years ago
I know you can't hear my from your chair in modland but you just got a standing fucking ovation.
RedSugarPill 5 years ago
Hey /u/MachiavellianRed was the similar topic "TwoX Covering Up Actual RAPE Story Unfortunately it Does Not Fit The Progressive Narrative" by /u/Labore_Et_Constantia removed by an autobot, or was it deleted intentionally? Thanks for your tremendous efforts, always..
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removed by autobot, we still have this thread and I pmed OP to include a link to mine to show the power of brigades in shutting down informative threads, in any case it wasn't done by the mods.
RedSugarPill 5 years ago
Yes, I thought so--thank you. Also, this is less of an issue, but every time I say something controversial, my last 20 comments all go south. I don't mind because I could care less about points, but everyone on the red pill should be aware of the power of a brigade. They are here in mass numbers, and they are making intelligent subversions.
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Agreed, there are also a few questionable comments that get thumbed uped and discussed which always makes me wonder. They are never overtly bad or wrong, but just not quite "top tier" comments. A lotta shilling nowadays
aguy01 5 years ago
I'd love to hear your argument that leftist actions aren't directly influencing gender relations.
DnicF 5 years ago
Isn't the whole point that I asked how they do?
Drenmar 5 years ago
Interesting. The leading feminist publisher in Germany is doing the opposite thing. But the people are calling the main editor Alice Schwarzer a nazi now, it's a bit hilarious.
On the other side we have leading politicians like Claudia Roth saying that it's not a migrant problem and we shouldn't overgeneralize here. Then she goes on saying that it's actually a problem with all men :D
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boredguy93 5 years ago
Anyone seen as looking out for 'british natives' gets fucking destroyed over here. Look at the treatment of UKIP. it is labelled as a racist party. i really am worried what britain will look like when im picking up my pension
Fapper2k 5 years ago
Thank god they don't let them in the UK, at least in those numbers.
It amazes me that most people cannot make the correlation between this influx of migrants and our interventions in the middle east. A lot of those people support the interventions but then berate them for running away and coming over to screw us.
My_Dog_Jax 5 years ago
Guys this isn't news. Women only give a shit about themselves. They only "care" about people or situations if it is in their own self interest.
Not news. Not new.
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Even if it did get out to mass media and it was focused on, people still wouldn't believe it. The evidence is everywhere that the migration crisis will destroy our culture, but to say so is still 'racist' and people don't want to speak up. In addition, no one wants to believe it will happen to them, the first thing i thought was 'this wouldn't happen in countries like the UK because...' then i realised that's what i was conditioned to believe. Yes feminists don't want to hear it but neither does anyone, this doesn't fit the narrative for pretty much any group of society. This is a bigger issue than feminism.
tigerjaws 5 years ago
The UK is already happening holy fuck man, look at your population
CaptainGloom 5 years ago
The UK's already fucked, you must have heard of the Rotheram grooming circles?
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I put it sixth on the list. The defining war of this century will again be centered in Europe, but this time a civil war, between native populations and the muslim immigrants, because wherever you look in the world Islam does not mix with other cultures without violence. Top of the list I put The Netherlands, simply because they are reaching the stage where the majority of pupils going through school in cities like Rotterdam are Muslim now, and any politician who speaks up needs 24h guard against assassination. Next in the danger list is Sweden, because they have taken proportionally the greatest number, and already have no-go areas. Also, it is a feminist paradise, so that handicaps them from taking useful action soon enough. After that Denmark. Then probably France, Germany, then the UK. It will be interesting to see what happens, but it will not be pretty, because of the numbers involved, and the fact that the 'enemy' is so spread out.
The tragedy, of course, is that most of these muslim immigrants don't want anything to do with this, and will get caught up, just like the native population. I imagine that will go two ways. A good number will 'defect' and just leave islam. Another group will set about an Islamic Reformation, as Christianity went through some centuries ago. What happens to the rest? That is the big question.
The curse is, 'may you live in interesting times', and indeed we are. But the Left, and feminism, is severely weakening the West, which is why this can happen. If our culture (and western men) was as strong as it was in the 19th century, it wouldn't be a problem. When these guys look at Western women and decide they are just sluts, can we really argue?
macksdowntownsong 5 years ago
Lets take the whole "refugee" thing for what it is to a lot of these Muslim guys who are coming to Europe. The idea of a safe zone in the Middle East or going to other Gulf States does not appeal to them, why? Not any blonde women in those Gulf States. I have to say that from my experience, Middle Eastern men are so thirsty for blonde women that they will go well beyond their means to get with one., hands down the most desperate for blondes.
Of course these men don't want to go to the Gulf States, they want to go to Sweden where they can grope blondes all day. A lot of them want to come to America because they desperately want that blonde they longed for. The irony here is that they're actually acting in ways that make it that much more difficult for any kind of brown guy to get those same blondes because they ruin the status of most men of their race. Arab and Middle Eastern guys have among the worst game in the world in general.
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crackalot 5 years ago
I recently learned something very interesting about this: http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007740
ChairBorneMGTOW 5 years ago
When this war comes (and it can't come fast enough in my opinion) I'm leaving my job and going across the Atlantic to fight. If these raping, shit-blooded scum can run off to fight for the Islamic State and come back with no consequence, I'm gonna do the same, but for the good guys instead.
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sqrt7744 5 years ago
I don't believe it, Europe is killing itself already by not having children. There will be no war. A slaughter (of Europeans) perhaps, but not a war.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Look around, wherever there is a large population of muslims in close proximity to another culture there is conflict. Look at Nigeria, look at Sudan, look at Lebanon, or Philippines. There comes a point when even SJWs can't stick their heads in the sand anymore, and even if they could, the general population could not. They will only stand so many Colognes, Parises and Rotherhams.
[deleted] 5 years ago
No, Denmark is doing much better than France, Germany and the UK are.
alphbux 5 years ago
How so? Honest question. I really like the Danes.
alphbux 5 years ago
Good points. I had not thought about how the groups would divide.
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dogextraordinaire 5 years ago
If Trump gets elected in America, I'm immigrating. Quite a few of the people like me I know (young, professionals) have also expressed similar sentiments over quiet drinks.
sqrt7744 5 years ago
I'd love to share your enthusiasm, but I doubt much will change with Trump in America.
sirjuicybooty 5 years ago
You know people keep saying this, but I think it would be interesting to have him as a president. Not that I support him by any means, but I feel like he would fuck the whole political system up so bad that it HAD to be fixed. After that its anyone's game.
Real_Pokemon 5 years ago
Come in, you are welcome.
I, too, am a European immigrant in the United States disillusioned with cultural Marxism. If Trump comes in, we clean up the US. Then, we go back and clean up our ancestral home, Europe.
bluedrygrass 5 years ago
There is no way Trump is gonna be let to be elected. In America, out of any country? That would be extremely masochistic from the puppet masters that made a point in making America the stronghold of progressivism.
If Trumps manages to be a serious candidate, some enormous scandal will come out about him, until his reputation will be completely destroyed.
If by any chance he still managed to survive the media nuking, he would be assassinated, JFK style. Or poisoned, or whatever.
Trump doesn't have a snowball chance in hell to be president.
Real_Pokemon 5 years ago
Perhaps they do assassinate him. If that happens, we win 100%.
netgrey 5 years ago
The United States was built by people like you. Respect.
CaptainGloom 5 years ago
That would be an apt prediction except you have removed the biggest and most dangerous player: money, and by extension, corporations. Many of the European governments are not as whipped as the American govt by corporations, but at the first sign of instability anyone who wants to remove laws and turn a profit will immediately give large amounts of money to govts, thereby helping them win the 'war', while also securing their economic future with bought-out politicians. A European civil war would not be an end-all fight that decides the outcome of civilization there, it will merely be a small issue that led to the overturning of governments and the final securing of control by corporations.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Corporations are not all powerful. When people fear for their survival, governments and corporations lose the final say. However, I think that once this gets sufficiently out of hand with the number of terror attacks by 'home-grown' terrorists, along with things like Rotherham and Cologne, the need for society to continue functioning to produce profits will be the final motivator for governments.
CaptainGloom 5 years ago
Corporations are a damn sight more powerful than a government that is being split between three groups, the rationals, the far left, and the kowtowing right. An organization like a corporation which is functioning as a fully-realized oligarch system will easily move in and crush a destabilized government and secure future profits. Corporate control has been on the rise since a blind eye was turned to them during the fifties, and the largest corps have far too much money and influence to be stopped now, especially as governments weaken between split mandates
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Corporations are just as vulnerable to public opinion as governments. Look at the backpedalling by Coca-cola over Crimea recently. They do a lot to try to keep a good reputation, or they profits fall. When profits fall, management gets replaced. Companies generally do best when things are stable and prosperous, because people have money to spend and don't feel they have to stash so much away for emergencies. A Europe in flames does not benefit corporations.
CaptainGloom 5 years ago
A Europe in flames will not benefit Coca-Cola, but what about someone in the same field as General Dynamics? It'd be a cashgrab. Not all corporations work in the same area, they just have the same goal. In India many farmers are losing their water as Coca-Cola uses the underground aquifers for their supplies, and this has not been stopped nor will it be stopped, as CC has their fingers so far up the local government's ass that their facilities are guarded by the local police.
veritasxe 5 years ago
Have you heard of the paedophile rings in the upper echelons of the British government and the BBC?
mammothleafblower 5 years ago
More proof that liberalism is a dangerous mental disorder.
[deleted] 5 years ago
I grew up atheist in a "moderate" muslim country and I never understood the bend-over-backwards-while-sucking-muslims-off sentiment American/european politics share.
I think this is due to a certain cognitive laziness, an inbuilt tendency to think in parallels humans share. Not all religions are evil> islam is a religion> islam is not evil!
Islam is unlike Buddhism, unlike Christianity, and certainly unlike Judaism. It's blatantly racist(ask non arab muslims), sexist, self hating, self righteous and self pitying.
The Quran literally says non muslims are fit to be treated as subhuman slaves, non muslim women can be taken as sex slaves etc.
The worst part(IMO), is how it's built to resist reform: Islam claims to be the FINAL and UNALTERABLE interpretation of god's will.
The Christians had the protestant schism, the lutheranian schism and plenty of other schisms. In each case a religious leader was able to convince the masses to a different interpretation. This is nearly impossible in Islam. To alter the last revelation is blasphemy.
The west is committing cultural suicide, tolerating barbarians like this. Much of the religious right needs to bear responsibility too, for islam's outsized impact on our culture. When a fatwa was issued on Salman Rushdie, when death treats were made on the Danish cartoonists, or when Charlie Hebdo happened, the pope and other religious leaders all invariably blamed the writers for bringing this violence against themselves.
The best weapon in my arsenal against barbarians like this is the Anti-theism of Richard Dawkins, of Christopher Hitchens and of Sam Harris. I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting a concealed carry license and stocking up my armory. I'll be really wary when I meet Muslim fucks in public.
rpscrote 5 years ago
Yep. Getting my concealed carry license now because of how this shit is going down, and knowing the bleeding heart liberals just can't wait to import more problems into our borders
Linrraba 5 years ago
When Charlie Hebdo happened all the simpathy for them was gone when they saw the charges they draw. Pretty much everyone I know think they bought onto themselves. "Im not condoning their actions but" apologetics comments everywhere. Sourisseaux came to my country. I wish I could have shaken his hand. Dude is a hero for keeping it running.
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[deleted] 5 years ago
We know. They're being fucking cuckolds and it WILL destroy them. Really don't understand it.
football1010 5 years ago
Is that before or after they make war on muslim countries, install puppet regimes, infest muslim nations with mercenaries and steal their natural resources?
[deleted] 5 years ago
In their country. Foreign policy and domestic policy are separate issues.
rpscrote 5 years ago
Gee Saudia Arabia seems to be doing awful well with us "stealing" their oil resources
warsie 4 years ago
Given Saudi is exporting wahhabist fuckers to attack the US, not to mention the shia pissed at US propped Saudi and Bahrain oppressing the Shia population in Saudi, uh yeah theres issues.
T-westside 5 years ago
I wasn't going to share in this discussion, mostly because I'm only a lurker and if I even attempt to defend people like me who are muslim, it would be seen as if I'm trying to defend Islam (a religion flawed like any other, specially similarly to the rest of the abrahamic ones)
But, I am from a "moderate" "secular" muslim country myself, and I wonder where did you grow up to be so hateful of anybody who doesn't share your view on spirituality, calling them "barbarians"
Is it an Arab country or non-Arab?
I usually understand the sentiment coming from westerners who know little about Islam, and believe the lies told about the religion (supported by the actions of terrorists) but when i read the rare comment written by someone who claims to live among muslims, it really makes me curious.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Safe to say it's a country that practices sharia law. Does your country prevent women from going out alone? Or cut off people's hands when they steal?
T-westside 5 years ago
No of course not. Sounds like KSA. You could try to immigrate to some country where you'd fit in better, like I've always planned to do, but I'm afraid you'd be perceived as barbarian regardless of who you are as a person.
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I don't give a damn how people pray. Islam is political. It needs to be to match the claims it makes.
Obviously I don't do this in public. Much of the perceived multi cultural peace in muslim countries is merely repression in disguise. The threat of violence is real, and muslims are nuts when it comes to free speech.
That is missing the point. I'm no longer in a muslim country. But for the political left to write off what's going on inside these countries for some sort of multicultural etiquette, is pure moral relativism.
This is not an irrational hate so much as a want to be left alone. Any modern non muslim who wants to live in peace needs to oppose this BS sprouting out of the middle east, through Wahabbi Mosques and refugee/immigrants. The freedom of religion ends when my other rights are threatened.
T-westside 5 years ago
I don't understand, so you're an immigrant yourself?
ThePantsThief 5 years ago
Holy shit. I almost don't believe that first video is real. I'm speechless.
[deleted] 5 years ago
So funny how feminists and liberals have such a boner for the people on Earth who are literally the most incompatible with their ideal society. It makes absolutely no sense but no one ever accused SJWs of being rational.
OneRedYear 5 years ago
tingles for the bad boy on a cultural level
generallyaprick 5 years ago
The cognitive dissonance of lefty sjw feminists when it comes to Muslims never ceases to amaze me either.
JenniferSMOrc 5 years ago
yes
the point of feminism is to cover up sexual assault
kill yourself
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Look, she can't even logically argue against it. Just sarcasm, as if the evidence doesn't massively show that it does cover up sexual assault that doesn't fit their narrative.
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MonkeyDFreecs 5 years ago
Damn its been 6 days since it happened and no mainstream media covered it. Muslims are the new Black. I better convert to Islam to get away with shit I always wanted to do.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Most liberals are worthless pathetic scum who should never be respected or acknowledged as human beings. When they are, this shit happens. They destroy from within.
thenemaxofredpill 5 years ago
Nazi skinheads everywhere are shaking their head. You know times are dire when skin heads are like "we fucking told you so".
ArcadesRed 5 years ago
And their ranks will swell with young men.
boomerbux 5 years ago
The only good part about this is watching the left wing squirm at the unintended consequences of bringing in millions of men who make Genghis Khan look like a liberal. Not sure if they are too stupid to see it, or it's all ok as they just want to see white-male-western society brought down as hard and fast as possible. Already the backlash is beginning in Germany and Sweden, where violent anti-muslim attacks are starting to occur. That may also be part of the left wing plans, knowing extremists will eventually attack muslims, and then they can label anyone who criticizes indiscriminate immigration policies as a racist/extremist. Looks to me like the plan's going to work.
beginner_ 5 years ago
And now the anti-migration politics of the European country I live in and the negative publicity all around the world gets full reward. Muslim migrants are almost complete avoiding my country and most want to go to Germany or Sweden. And obviously this will only get better because if the already have friends/relatives in Germany subsequent ones will go there too.
football1010 5 years ago
Genghis Khan is responsible for killing millions of people including their cats and dogs, and raping the survivors. Let's be realistic, none of the immigrants are on the same level as him. I'm not condoning any crimes being committed, but lets not lose our heads here.
Sdom1 5 years ago
DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!
That's why they won't oppose migrants who themselves are from an actual rape culture. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
They're dancing with the devil because they're too stupid and nihilistic to understand what's happening.
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I still think they see women being forced to wear hijabs and kept on a tight leash and get secretly wet over it.
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Dude it's the only explanation for why they would tolerate it
Wrong_Opinion 5 years ago
Lo and behold, the subreddit that the feminist groups claim is a club on how to rape women is one of the few carrying this story, denouncing the crimes, and pointing out the censorship of this tragic tale.
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On a related note this news article was removed from worldnews as apparently it wasn't the appropriate sub.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/624066/Islamic-Society-students-death-threat-university-lecture
People in the UK haven't wanted this to get out as they believe it will spread islamophobia.
How ironic though the fear of an ideology explicitly telling it's followers to murder you is now an irrational fear.
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Heres the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1ZiZdz5nao
[deleted] 5 years ago
Someobody pointed out that in democratic countries, feminists attack men, because that know they are safe to do so. But the same feminists wont attack non-democratic countries (ie Saudi Arabia) or non democratic religions.
Valentinus9171 5 years ago
This coverup may be economically influenced as well. Considering that Germany is an industrial economy and their low birth rate and impressive education system means they need unskilled labor for their many factories. So they import it and they don't want public sentiment to turn against immigration, hence more reason for the coverup.
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Nope, it's the only real reason, this was the reason behind feminism too, it was funded by the 1% because it created a larger labour force, it was a major success because it stopped economic growth in the lower classes by devaluing their labour, now for the lower classes which is the far majority of people, although they have to have a man and a woman working to make ends meet, they are no richer than before, so the only gain of the feminist action of getting women into jobs has forced women to have to work for no actual added income into the household.
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We've been told multiple lies about who these people are namely the fact most are refugees, but what's emerging is it happens to be the countries with the aging populations (Sweden, Germany, France) taking most of them in, refugees are now out of the question. The governments in these countries want to bolster their working class as you say and anything against this process is against their policy. It's of their personal interest to keep deceiving the people so they can get more tax revenue and reap the rewards when pay day comes. It's genius.
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The more automation we get, the less will we rely on low paid, low skilled labor - and I for once fear what will happen when X millions of imported people get told that their purpose of actually being there has been extinguished.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was being covered up by security services tbh. The scale of it to me suggests it is coordinated and organised.
csehszlovakze 5 years ago
it's not about unskilled labor, it's about wages: more potential employees push wages down
Sdom1 5 years ago
Close, but not quite. They already have access to unskilled labor from Eastern Europe, and automation is making unskilled labor obsolete anyway. Their problem is that they are facing a population decline, which is a big no-no for a socialist welfare state. Welfare states are like Ponzi schemes.
The problem is that these people aren't Mexicans. They aren't just looking to put their noses to the grindstone and work. They are very politically active and share a religion that commands them to consume societies. Basically, liberals are dicing with death and don't even realize it.
seattleron 5 years ago
Socialism, the biggest pyramid scheme ever created.
infiniteslinky 5 years ago
Actually this is pretty well put.
football1010 5 years ago
Islam does not command it's followers to consume societies. Muslims believe that you should respect the laws and culture of the country you live in but still maintain your own beliefs.
slickdevil1 5 years ago
This is spot on! I live in germany and this is just spot on... I will leave Germanistan right after i graduate. My country is turning into a shithole.
eccentricrealist 5 years ago
It's pretty funny, because I was arguing about illegal migration, Trump and how what he says is that illegals make it much more difficult for legals, etc., then they ask me my thoughts about Europe, and they can't get it through their skulls that most of them are men, most of them aren't Syrians, most of them will stay on welfare, most of them don't give a shit about law and will ask for Sharia. God damn, the "progressives" are really scary sometimes.
Sdom1 5 years ago
They're dancing with the devil while explaining away his horns and tail.
MattyAnon 5 years ago
Part of the unskilled labour needed it female procreation to compensate for the below-parity birthrate.
Sdom1 5 years ago
I said that in the next sentence. Did you read the whole post?
tigerjaws 5 years ago
Exactly. As much as people hate Mexican immigrants in the US coming to 'take muh jobs', they come here, work as hard as they can and with pride. And most mexicans are christian and share the same fundamental ideas that Americans do, after all the Mexican constitution was literally modeled after the American one. These muslim immigrants literally want to establish a worldwide caliphate with their Sharia Law
Sdom1 5 years ago
What's happening with the Mexicans has happened with every other immigrant group that's come to the US. Benjamin Franklin used to make similar complaints about the German immigrants. BUT, and this is a huge but, this is a natural part of the immigration cycle. We're in the last stage before it shuts off for an extended period of time. Socialists are desperate for this not to happen.
squidracer 5 years ago
But hardly any of the immigrants are willing to work
seattleron 5 years ago
They're owed something, and even though some of them are 6'3 and 230 pounds and 25 years old, help them because they are so oppressed.
LambdaMale 5 years ago
What Cover up? OP mentioned some subreddits, that is bad enough. But every German news site I look at, it is the top headline. Even the left-leaning, super correct ones. The Chancellor (female) is condemning it, the Mayor of Cologne (female) is condemning it, several cabinet members (leftist males and females) are taking a hard stance. "We can't have no-go areas", "must be punished to the full extent of the law", etc. And they all mention that the mob "looked North African".
At least in German mass media, they are as clear as politians get (for once).
alphbux 5 years ago
This happened New Year eve. It took several days and the NY Times to report on it before the major German news did.
LambdaMale 5 years ago
The press conference of Cologne police was Monday. The story was a minor article on most sites on Monday and blew up Tuesday, same time as the NYT. Why no one picked up on this before the press conference, idk.
max_peenor 5 years ago
Their monster got away from them and I honestly believe they don't know what to do now. Pop some corn. This show is gonna get good.
Oh, and if you have any of your bets put on Merkel, pull them. She's a dead horse in the next race. Her own party will destroy her to distance their policies from her results.
LambdaMale 5 years ago
Would be nice to see Schaeuble take over. Seeing his anti-terrorism record, he might use that hard liner energy a bit more enjoyably against real domestic threats.
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It also has to do with the German guilt thing.
After the whole Nazi thing Germans are ultra sensitive about their optics where race is concerned.
seattleron 5 years ago
100% correct. The Germans are dying to be know for something other than the Holocaust. They hate that the first thing the world thinks about when it comes to them is Hitler. It's why they loved Inglorious Basterds. A story about a different outcome to Hitler where he's killed in Germany and burned before the whole starving and killing millions goes through? Yeah, Germans will be all for that. I don't blame them, but this was just stupid in every sense of the word. 1,000,000 middle eastern migrants all at once? Good fucking grief, that's a train wreck waiting to happen.
destraht 5 years ago
There are overlapping agreements in Europe:
Well, Shengen is all but dead now because certain countries have violated the spirit and benefit of that agreement. Countries East of the Carpathian mountains will be shoring up against this bullshit and they aren't quaking in their boots at the Russian threat like the bitch ass Baltic states are and so they are less controllable.
selfiereflection 5 years ago
The problem with the government not stepping in is that fringe groups may start to deal with the issue themselves. I can only imagine the shitstorm if an arab gets lynched in the next few years due to no one wanting to control the situation better.
OneRedYear 5 years ago
The west is going to roll right very hard. I wouldn't be surprised it hasn't happened already.
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wildhaymaker 5 years ago
Multiculturalism doesn't work.
netgrey 5 years ago
Diversity + proximity = war
blooddidntwork 5 years ago
the only thing good about multiculturalism is the food. as someone, somewhere said
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More like tolerance of intolerant and violent cultures/religions doesn't work. Multiculturalism in the US, particularly here in Califirnia, works well for the most part between different ethnicities and cultural groups. You don't see Catholics hell bent on killing Buddhists or Chinese mass raping Mexicans. Islam is the problem here and it's ironic that Feminists are defending it.
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I think that's something that isn't talked about the way it should be. There is just a fundamental problem with Islam, as written, and multiculturalism. Sam Harris has had a couple great points, and he basically made Ben Afleck look like a fucking idiot on Bill Maher. I'd link but I'm on mobile.
The Left Refuses to have a real conversation because they'll immediately paint the other side as racist. The right hasn't done themselves any favors because they either come off as racist, or in fact are.
malariasucks 5 years ago
really? the government now spends millions providing information in Spanish because there's so many illegal immigrants and often their kids have a difficult time learning english.
Now to be a teacher in California it is MANDATORY to take ESL courses and get certificates, otherwise you cant become a teacher.
but yes, even Malala, the famous muslim teen, says shit like 'if people wouldnt say shit about islam, there wouldnt be attacks' and yet no one has a problem when she says that!
think of the ramifications of what she said. I mean she justifies muslims attacking people who are critical of Islam, and women are praising her for being brave. it makes me sick
redpillavatar 5 years ago
Science says that diversity doesn't work, and that it causes people to distrust their neighbors.
Though, I do agree with you that Islam is mainly the problem in this specific case.
[deleted] 5 years ago
Wrong. Diversity in big numbers doesnt work. People assimilate when in small numbers. People are integrated, when they want to be part of a culture. The moment there are enough people, who cling to their own culture and refuse to assimilate, thats when xenophobia kicks in.
max_peenor 5 years ago
The melting pot worked. It allowed the best ideas, traditions to thrive while the worst died. Deliberately forcing multicultural values does not. At best, it creates cultural mediocrity, where everyone surrenders anything good so as to not offend anyone else (and if you are white, expect to surrender ten times as much). At worse, it creates hostile defacto segregation.
Trust me, the SF Bay area isn't all as happy together as the media might want you to think it is.
mustang_mike 5 years ago
Hah no shit. Go walk around certain parts of Oakland as a white dude and you'll find anything but happy togetherness. Most of SF's beef is between the rich/poor, but there's a fair amount of racial/cultural tension as well (and not just black vs white).
tigerjaws 5 years ago
Oh of course, but rich and poor tends to have demographics, with the blacks and hispanics in the poorer areas and the well off asians and whites in another
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max_peenor 5 years ago
That's just not true. In fact, there are the only groups that make any attempt to adjust for traditional American culture any more. I regularly invite first gen immigrants over for traditional holidays, like Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner, and they enthusiastically participate. It's awesome and in return I am frequently invited to their religious or social holiday events. This is how it is supposed to be.
ProTip: As a group, they are hostile to all men. The competition is ruthless here. You better be top 10% if you want constant female attention without flashing your betabux everywhere. That said, Indian men as a demographic have pretty high incomes compared to pretty much all other groups. So yeah, it may suck to think you have to be a BB, but there are a sea of white trevs right there in the same boat with you.
crackalot 5 years ago
The melting pot worked because it was a melting of closely related ethnic Europeans: Englishmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen, Germans, Scandinavians, Frenchmen, Italians, and a few Spaniards. They would arrive on American soil and happily intermarry, producing a mixed (melted) gene pool and a mixed culture. That was pre-1965. Then the 1965 Immigration Act happened. Since then there hasn't been much melting for the simple reason that most immigration is non-European.
DaphneDK 5 years ago
The melting pot was also distinctly not multicultural. People were expected to integrate into society and the predominant culture. Nobody were given brownie points or financial support to hold on to antiquated cultural traditions from back home. The new paradigm is that all cultures are equally good (except Western cultures, which are all bad), and the immigrants should not be expected to integrated and assimilate. Assimilate is what drove the melting pot, but it’s a dirty words these days.
crackalot 5 years ago
True, but as with anything else it comes down to biology. Whites don't want to have non-white children. In most cases, non-whites don't want to have half-breed children either. Nobody's to blame, except the anti-whites responsible for subverting government policy.
max_peenor 5 years ago
I fully agree that the 1960s represented the death of the melting pot. People stopped coming here to integrate, but rather to feed. However, in CA in the 70s, before the real damage had taken hold, a lot of not European cultures integrated just fine. Unfortunately, this caused what I call the Delusion of California--that people can just come together act however they acted their own and everything will turn out ok.
Doesn't work in society. Doesn't work in marriage. Doesn't work anywhere.
crackalot 5 years ago
You seem to have missed the central point. If a foreigner fails to intermarry with the native population of his host country, his descendants will never truly be assimilated. They become Hyphen-Americans: African-American, Indian-American, Asian-American, Moslem-American, Mexican-American, and on, and on, and on. They don't see themselves as truly American, and neither do Americans.
malariasucks 5 years ago
when I worked in the bay area in 2002, I had Palestinians harassing me and a lot of people, waving their flags around and acting crazy. Was it on the news? no way
takecontrolright 5 years ago
In bay area from past 3 years , never saw shit like this ,everyone keeps to themselves apart from occasional crazies in downtown which i think is the case in any city
malariasucks 5 years ago
well I was in Daly city, which is right there. SF is a lot more rich now than it was
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evergonitenitenigga 5 years ago
yes. and unfortunately most cultures are heavily influenced by religion. religion that are based on books written by farmers and herders shitting on dirt.
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IronOneZero 5 years ago
"Multiculturalism" is bullshit. And I'm a brown guy like you and an immigrant to the US. You know why people think it works? Because there's a correlation between the multiculturalism that existed in early America and its future prosperity. But correlation does not equal causation.
The CAUSATION for America's success is that all those immigrants from the corners of the world showed up here with mostly nothing. And there was a fire in their soul to move the needle forward for themselves and their families. This presents a natural selection bias in that the people who immigrated here in the "show me your poor" days came to HUSTLE and WORK.
You transplant a bunch of people who are escaping war into similar opportunistic circumstances and this is what you get - regression to the mean.
redpillavatar 5 years ago
Multiculturalism is globalist and cultural Marxist in origin.
In general it doesn't work and many examples of genocide can be linked to multi-culturalism.
Statecensor 5 years ago
These women should be respectful of Islamic culture and not provoke men with their heavy coats and thick winter clothing.
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TIL that TRP suddenly turns feminist when it comes to non-white men. How pathetic it is that TRP chooses women's side over non-white men!!!
White man accused of rape?
-- Obviously it's false accusation, duh.
Non-white man accused of rape?
-- Obviously it's rapist misogynist non-white man, duh. (feminist argument)
I question the very basic tenet of TRP teaching men (of all races and backgrounds) about female sexual behavior.
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This isn't not looking like a slut and after a one night stand. This is a crowd of people, you would have much less reason to claim rape here.
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You're fucking retarded. There is nothing "feminist" about being outraged over actual people being actually raped. Rape is a horrible crime which has been reduced to a laughable state in American colleges, but don't think for a second that the manosphere looks upon real rape/sexual harassment (like being groped in the dark by 5-10 people you don't know or raped on a train by a stranger) with anything but disgust.
35+ women got harassed or raped here. Being outraged at the perpetrators is the only moral response.
Ninebythreeinch 5 years ago
This is why far right is growing in Europe. Feminists, immigrants, government, media going on peoples nerves. Will history repeat itself? Looks more and more like it will.
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Sys_init 5 years ago
Am i correct in saying there was no penetration going on? just groping etc? That's what i gathered from the articles on this anyway.
slickdevil1 5 years ago
I think one woman was penetrated via hands - and forced penetration means rape. They ripped her clothes off etc. Most other women were "just" groped, robbed and called names (whore, cunt and so forth).
DaphneDK 5 years ago
I find absolutely hilarious that the city of Cologne (why can’t you call it Køln like everybody else?!) has responded to the attacks by issuing a code of conduct – for the young women and girls to follow – so that they cannot avoid being sexually assaulted in such a way another time. Now how’s that for victim blaming.
The rules in the conduct will be posted online and updated regularly. Among the rules, are that girls must maintain an arm’s length distance to strangers, not be separated but stay within their own group.
Next up: wear conservative attire and don't make eye contact. After that: don't leave your home unless absolutely necessary.
PlayerXz 5 years ago
In German it is Köln and in Dutch it is Keulen. For the longest time I thought Cologne was an entirely different city.
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DaphneDK 5 years ago
Practical advice? Stay at arms length. meh.. I gave the only practical advice just below: let the citizens defend themselves with arms. In fact that was exactly what a Swiss Army Chief adviced just a few days ago.
In addition, of course the police should take whatever measures required to stop attacks. Including shooting down people disobying orders. Deploying the army if necessary.
DocTomoe 5 years ago
As a German: Actually, it's Köln.
Cheveyo 5 years ago
Or "Don't leave your home unless accompanied by your husband a male family member."
GainzdalfTheWhey 5 years ago
Wear black bedsheets covering everything, use net things on the eyes so you wont bump into men
MattyAnon 5 years ago
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mayor-of-cologne-says-women-should-have-code-of-conduct-to-prevent-future-assault-a6798186.html
Reporting on the code of conduct for women (from the female mayor no less)
no mention of the ethnicity of the perpetrators.
slickdevil1 5 years ago
Whats even more hilarious: the female mayor of Cologne was recently attacked by a crazy neo-nazi (with a knife). Maybe she should have kept an arms length of distance? Just goes to show how stupid her statement was. Fucking left-wingers have lost grasp on reality.
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infiniteslinky 5 years ago
Well, if you have a group of people that refuse to assimilate to your social norms, you have to teach your people to protect themselves from them.
DaphneDK 5 years ago
There is a social contract in place. This is more strict in Germany than the USA. The citizens give up their right to arm themselves, in turn the state will ensure their protection. If the state is no longer capable or willing to protect the citizens, its first action of the day should be to relinquish its monopoly on arms.
But I was mainly struck by the extreme difference from the common feminist response to rapes in Western countries (such as the "slut walks"): that any suggestion that women might also be aware not to put themselves in dangerous situations is tantamount to victim blaming. And then we have here the major coming out and saying that girls will have to just suck it up and learn not talk to strangers.
Anyway, I mostly left Europe myself. Doubt I'll come back permantly. Many things can be said about SE Asia, but they don't put up with shit like this the places I go. There are also pockets in the USA where that still apply.
tigerjaws 5 years ago
LMAO I think what Cologne really needs is a Slut walk With all the refugees invited :)
infiniteslinky 5 years ago
I am from the US, and the degree of social contract you speak is not the norm for me.
DaphneDK 5 years ago
There is also a social contract in the USA. For instance you are not allowed to exact revenge for wrongs done to you. You, the citizens of the USA, have agreed to hand over the reponsibility for convicting and punishing criminals to the state. In turn the state ensures you that criminals will be caught and punished. Now if the state at some point is grossly negligent in upholding its side of the bargain, the contract break down and people are in the moral right to exact revenge themselves.
infiniteslinky 5 years ago
Its been 20 years since I learned this. I seem to recall something about that now. Thanks for the refresher. While I understand that there are ideological problems with telling people to change their behaviors when they should be protected by the state, I think there has to be some common sense approach to dealing with the current situation. I don't see Germany deporting the refugees/immigrants/syrians any time soon.
javmultipies 5 years ago
I was in Europe and Asia for most of 2015 and I will say this: East Asian countries can be racist and xenophobic as fuck to outsiders (including those from upstanding countries) but at least they don't have these sort of social or criminal problems to the same extent.
DaphneDK 5 years ago
In my experience they're often racist towards each others (and towards blacks), but whites are in general treated with respect.
javmultipies 5 years ago
You'll be treated with respect, and certainly better than anyone with dark skin. And yeah, Asians love to hate each other. But it's important to disabuse anyone without the experience from discounting the xenophobia and exceptionalism.
You're always a gaijin or a waygook or a farang.
No matter how fluent you in are the language, no matter your employment, no matter that you're a fucking citizen who's lived there for 20 years. You will never be Japanese. You will never be Chinese. You will never be Korean.
On the contrary, a Chinese immigrant who's lived in America for 25 years and speaks English, owns a gas station, and has a couple kids? He's the fucking American dream.
But if you've spent any time living in Asia or read the experiences of those who have extensive experience, there's so many common stories:
"My Japanese mother-in-law still acts surprised when I reply to something she's said in Japanese even after I've been here for 25 years. She'll say 'Wow you speak so much Japanese for a foreigner!'" Even after all this time she sees a white face and automatically assumes I can't understand.
You get treated like a retard often. You'll be patronised. You'll have basic shit explained to you over and over. "Oh wow you know how to use chopsticks?"
These are just the dead simple examples, but this aspect of these closed societies goes a lot further and influences the way you're treated throughout the society. You'll never be one of them, even if you're half-foreign/half-local blood. You'll still be treated as an outsider.
All that being said, it's still a cool place to live and the girls are cute as fuck. I'm not interested in staying there long-term right now as I have much greater financial prospects in the west and I don't have the language skills (which aren't exactly optional in Asia if you want to fuck girls who aren't on the expat/foreigner cock carousel - and often times it's not the hotties who feel the need to go after foreigners). But if I North America wasn't the best place for me career wise right now, Scandinavia and a few Asian countries would be top of my list for a variety of reasons. Bracing for inevitable bullshit reaction from people who've never been to Scandinavia telling me it's a feminist shithole. I don't give a fuck, I'll take hipster liberals all day long if they literally look like Disney Princess Barbies, speak fluent English, have good economies with low unemployment, and have some of the lowest obesity rates in the west. I've lived in every continent on earth for months at a time aside from Africa and those are my current pics.
DaphneDK 5 years ago
I don’t mind being a gaijin. I am what I am. And I’ll never be anything else.
It’s the USA that is very special in this regard. Most of the world, including traditionally Europe, works in different ways. I’ll never be Japanese, or Chinese or Thai or anything else – any more than I’ll suddenly sprout wings and become a bird. It’s impossible. In most of the world nationality/ethnicity is not something you acquire by becoming a citizen, it’s a central part of your being which you at a minimum must be born into – if not have several generations behind you and probably the same race and mother language, etc. My father is from the Faroe Islands, and even though he has lived in Denmark since he was a child and I was born in Copenhagen, and even though the Faroe Islands is part of Denmark, I’m still not really 100% Danish.
jm51 5 years ago
A similar place is rural Yorkshire (England). I've talked to guys that have moved there and them being there 20 years gets a slight nod of recognition from their neighbours.
Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 5 years ago
It's not that people don't care about rape by minority groups. They're just petrified that if any attention is given to anything other than the primary issue of female power over the majority cis-white-male-patriarchy engine, then they'll lose the war. It's the same reason you can't raise pro-male issues that aren't anti-woman in the slightest.
"My best friend was raped in prison last night." "OMG shitlord women are raped more shut up about your privileged patriarchy and cry me a river about your one stupid rape."
"My dog died last night." "OMG shitlord why are you comparing women to dogs?" "Uh...I wasn't. I was just talking about my dog?" "And not about women and the issues we face?! Fucking misogynist."
If we take our eye off the ball for a single second, people might realize that women are stupid cunts and stop taking this feminism thing seriously. We can't let that happen. Down with men! But just white middle class men from the United States and Europe.
shit_with_holes 5 years ago
from the United States, Europe, Australia, and anywhere else that originated as a Christian country.
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Ronin11A 5 years ago
This, and reporting that Syrian immigrants are raping nice, welcoming German women doesn't jive with the PC Narrative about how evil America and Trump are for not wanting thousands of immigrants pouring in simultaneously. Seriously, even the account of the US reporter who was gang-raped in Egypt* while covering a story was fucking BURIED (relevant link edit: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lara-logan-breaks-silence-on-cairo-assault/).
Meanwhile, they're trying to manufacture causation between college football and "rape culture" on American university campuses.
PaulMurrayCbr 5 years ago
"They're just petrified that if any attention is given to anything other than the primary issue of female power over the majority cis-white-male-patriarchy engine, then they'll lose the war."
In other words: the primary goal of Feminism and SJWism is the protection and propagation of Feminism and SJWism itself, rather than their stated aims.
In this, they work just like any other organisation.
Halfjor 5 years ago
The fact that a mod (who also mods ShitRedditSays) removed the news story from TwoX is mind boggling. It just goes to show that womens' issues themselves are not actually what drives them. It's just something for them to mask their anger under.
Other than that, the muslims might actually be higher on the left wing pity hierarchy than women.
25russianbear25 5 years ago
Feminists have nothing to gain from poor colored folk. They have more to gain by taking away from white men and guilty until proven innocent is the best away about it for them.
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antariusz 5 years ago
It's not that they are pitied... It's that women actually want strong male authority figures in their life.
But will deny it until the day they die.
If they admitted to it, it would allow non male authority figures (beta men) to emulate alpha qualities.
They want men that just get it. Even if that means takeover of Western European / u.s. Culture by Islamic militants.
The MAJORITY of women will ADMIT to having a fantasy about being raped. I'm not saying they would enjoy the actual act itself. But how many times do you need to see it in action before you realize that women are TERRIBLE at determining what will give them the most happiness in life.
They see conquering heroes coming to save them from the weak culture they are trapped and unhappy in (in record numbers) .
vondergeist 4 years ago
Have you considered actually going out and meeting/getting to know women instead of eating up every story TRP feeds you instead of being the male equivalent to a tumblr radfem?
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How the hell they got there is something I'd like to find out
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Calypto- 5 years ago
"To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?"
Can you guess who they are? No, not the Muslims.
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the fact that a grown man thinks theres anything of value to be earned by reading things there boggles my mind. Like a fisherman, staring at spawning salmon all day, everyone else is busy building better nets and hooks
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And yeah, if you read up on the male and female social matrix, it would make more sense.
and stop wasting your time reading womens mags
neveragoodtime 5 years ago
When women are actually brutally victimized, it calls attention to the fact that feminism is not actually structured to protect women in ways the patriarchy can. Feminists want you focused on that creepy nerd and that male gaze of the jock over there. Those are problems feminism can properly shame into submission. 1000 immigrants don't give a fuck.
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The best part about that is that of REPORTED rapes every year, about 3 out of 4 are male victims. Considering that a female rape victim is likely to receive at least some sympathy while a male victim will receive none (and more likely even active antipathy), you're going to have a hard time convincing me that the reporting rates for rape are LOWER among women than they are among males.
TL;DR: Men get raped at least 3 times more often then women in the US, but somehow rape is a "women's rights issue". Go fuck yourselves, you fat feminist pigs.
Just in case you don't believe me.
interestedplayer 5 years ago
Tell me how come we as the red pill suddenly believe all random rape claims, as WE OF ALL should know better. 1 rape claim suddenly 1000 refugees are wildly raping German women. Give me a break, this is us turning into CH with its WS writers.
rossiFan 5 years ago
While you're at it, apologize for being white.
/sickofthisshit
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Redasshole 5 years ago
Come on. I hate feminism as much as you do but what you describe isn't possible.
A thousand rapes and no one bats an eye? It can't be a conspiracy that big. I mean, even if most people are blinded by feminism etc. they still are clever enough. There must be a valid reason why nobody is talking about that, even stupid people couldn't justify not talking about it because it harms indirectly feminism.
Come on.
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Archwinger Endorsed Contributor 5 years ago
I think the stats were 1 rape and 80 sexual assaults.
A mob of 1000 people running about without military intervention seems like the made up part. Someone added a couple of zeros.
KillYourselfLiving 5 years ago
Them numbering in the 1000s is very likely. The media would never exaggerate that number, quite the opposite, they would try to hide their mob numbers as best as possible.
Also currently there are over 150 sexual assaults reported and the dark number is probably closer to 800.
There is no conspiracy against immigrants, only a conspiracy against the native population.
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Men in prison are raped more than any other group per capita.
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You don't even need to add the per capita part. There are 3 times more rapes reported in prisons than all rapes outside of prisons combined. Nearly 100% of the prison rapes are male victims. Even if 100% of the non-prison rapes were female victims (which is highly unlikely), that's still 3 times as often.
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Yeah but like 90% of rapes go unreported /s
Actually now that I think about it that might not be super far off the truth if you're talking about prison rapes. Between the fact that men are inherently less likely to report a rape because unlike women who are nearly idolized for "getting through it" men are often shamed either directly, or indirectly, and the fact that it's dangerous to snitch in a prison. I wouldn't be surprised if only 1 in 10 prison rapes are actually reported.
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That's a completely made up statistic. It's based on a survey of dubious quality, with tortured interpretations and a clear agenda from the people who published it.
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tigerjaws 5 years ago
You mean the same agenda that said 1 in 3 women are raped on college campuses?
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You know I heard that women are openly raped in classrooms on college campuses. I even heard of this one girl, on her first day was just arriving, and as soon as she stepped foot on campus 5 guys gang raped her.
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Yep.
Women on college campuses are actually less likely to be raped than women in general. But you know, EPIDEMIC and all that.
Polaris382 5 years ago
The really ironic thing is if those Muslim "refugee" types that they rush to defend end up acquiring too much power, they will have no problem putting the femicunts in their place. You think you are oh so oppressed now, how about some Sharia Law and a REAL patriarchy?
Those white men you want to keep shitting all over are your best defense against the criminal acts, but the way white men have been so demonized and emasculated by modern society...
QuantumDeath666 5 years ago
That's what I'm thinking. Women have basically created this weak version of a man that couldn't even defend the woman if it came to it.
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lets get some perspective here, it's a globalism trend. the north isn't breeding (and it shouldn't we are out of earth) and the south has a wealth of labour. it needs to be shared, the same as the capital of the north into bringing up the south.
the question is sort of like you said. how to integrate the flow of labour, without losing the benefits of the civilized north?
I'd say same as reddit, by slowing growth, allowing time for integration. Take TRP, add about 10% of users from the general public. you'll see discourse here go down. it's because theres too many who aren't integrated at once. eternal september.
this is just societies version of eternal september. Canada integrated a lot of sikhs in the 80s, and it's 3 generations in now, and they are as Canadian as maple syrup. Muslims could be the same thing. but tribalism isn't how we get there, any more than apolagetics is...
In our case, it was Air India flight cases, getting Military issued turbans, and 20 years of putting up with being called 'pakis' and we came out the other side. Just welcome them in, hold fast to the principles that you have, and pray that government doesn't do it too fast for them to integrate properly.
It's just a system, and europe is historically bad at integration. they need to start taking cues from america and canada from the last 100 years, we got the irish, italians, jews, sikhs and chineese into here, a few hiccups, but now are pretty much a melting pot
mcavvacm 5 years ago
All I'll say is that I won't die defending these woman when they get their wish and shit goes to hell.
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I won't either, I will fight for my heritage and culture.
as bad as the west is, I'll take it over Sharia law any day.
grubek 5 years ago
Feminism is a shit test. They do not want to win.
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... But the majority of people are BP so they take feminism at face value. This is how democracy fails.
QuantumDeath666 5 years ago
Majority of males are BP so they take shit tests at face value.
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sqrt7744 5 years ago
[European here] Give us our fucking guns back.
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sqrt7744 5 years ago
Happened before my time, commies were scared of people with guns. Now it's the women and cowards.
FiveLions 5 years ago
I can't find it, but there was a great post on here that this is what women deep down really want. It had everything to do with Muslim Patriarchy and the Beta West being completely overtaken by Islam...Very scary stuff, to me.
I feel like people are terrified of Islam...I'm not terrified to speak up about it anymore. I've been doing it for a while around friends and family...I get horrible looks. I don't believe there is such a thing as "Radical Islam", I only think there is Islam. The radicals are just martyred examples of what the general population wishes they were.
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renzy77 5 years ago
It was this one: Feminism will actually destroy the West
The discussion revolved around an article, "How the Feminists’ “War against Boys” Paved the Way for Islam"
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slay_it_forward 5 years ago
Of course not everyone is going to shoot up a place but the guy's point still stands, there is no radical Islam, just Islam. Some Muslims like yourself choose not to carry out the directives of your holy book.
PS fuck you for following such a fucked up religion.
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slay_it_forward 5 years ago
People aren't using Islam to murder, Islam specifically orders it's followers to murder. Big difference.
Yes, you should renounce the Muslim part of your identity. Passively following a religion that advocates horrific acts against humanity only encourages it's active followers by giving it more strength in numbers. You should tell your family members what a fucked up religion it is and encourage then to renounce that part of their identity as well.
Have you heard of an accomplice to a murder? That's essentially what you are.
I'm not Christian. I don't follow any religions. Anyone that follows a book of fairytales written thousands of years ago is a moron. You can pick out the wisdon from these books and leave it at that.
How do you rationalize following a child molesting rapist?
shwel_batata 5 years ago
These holy books are all shady and can be rationalized and circle-jerked to oblivion. There's no point in this argument.
I'm an apatheist. The question of whether God exists is meaningless to me. If God popped in and said hello, we'd all be excited for a day or two, but it wouldn't affect anything in the long run. We'd still need to figure out our purpose in life.
I am apathetic towards religion and I think it's pointless to even discuss it. My family members don't talk about spiritual things and if I were to talk to them about it, they'd probably crack jokes. My family can't even be serious in the most serious situations. We just don't talk about this stuff.
My approach is a lot more constructive than most anti-theists because anti-theists make Muslims defensive and their natural reaction is to hold on to that identity even more. You tell Muslims Islam orders Muslims to kill non-believers, they will go and read into their religion and contextualize it until it makes sense and complements their morals. They will say "only during defensive wars". It's such a pointless argument. If anything, you are more of an accomplice than I am. Every time you try to bring a Muslim to "the truth", they get more attached to their religion.
That being said, I am still free to enjoy the things that make sense to me in Islam. I don't have to renounce any part of my identity that isn't hurting anyone because each person is responsible for their actions. I am culturally Muslim, can't do anything about that.
Lanefiger 5 years ago
You follow a religion based on the words of an avowed child molester, who savagely conquered vast stretches of the world because they didn't believe in him. Fuck Mohammed, fuck Islam, and fuck you too. I should've killed more of the bastards while I had a weapon in Iraq!
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slay_it_forward 5 years ago
Big bad Muslims? Muslims are cowards. We've fucked them up throughout history and will continue to do so.
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Rasalom72 5 years ago
And any other white men who might or might not be middle class.. because they don't really exist as people anyways right?
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Don't be suprised if in the next 2~3 centuries there's no whites.
Everything will be mixed.
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of course not, being white with blue eyes and blond hair is a recessive gene.
if we are lucky, sickle cell anemia will be gone by then too.
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People who say this are labeled as "racist" but what you say is true and sad.
I think part of the beauty of women are their variations.
Girl from South America has a certain beauty, a red haired Irish gilr has her beauty, an Asian girl has her beauty.
Once we are all a kind of muddied light brown we wont have blue eyed blondes and green eyed redheads. Its really sad.
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not because of that, but because you think something being 'white' is anything other than a recessive gene, and a vitamin D deficiency adaptation.
Why do you think everyone associates with american movies instead of local ones (india aside), it's because of globalism. No one bitches that american movies are killing all others, they just sit down and watch the avengers.
you'll be long dead before it happens anyways
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I don't know about you man, but these biracial women are some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
And you can still get the Asian look out of people that don't look Asian. My sister is black and her husband is black and their child has green eyes and pale caramel skin. So if anything it'll just become more rare.
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And once we're all brown we'll still find ways to discriminate against one another based on increasingly stupid criteria.
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Tell me about it.
I spent some time around Caribbean people.
They hate American blacks. Hate them. They had some of the most racist shit I have ever heard.
The basic tenet of Caribbean/African hate for American blacks is that the American blacks give the Africans/West Indies guys a bad name.
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ManoshD 5 years ago
and the few white guys remaining will have to beat women off with an umbrella since we all know how racist a lot of brown people actually are, they ironically worship whites!
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thenemaxofredpill 5 years ago
Well, from a story I once read....we were all brown at one time in history. Even built a giant tower. However, somebody didn't care for that too much and scattered everyone across the planet and made them speak in different languages. Might be just a story but overall story is that we were once united and the same Then, something happened and every said fuck everyone and went did their own thing.
macksdowntownsong 5 years ago
I've learned overtime that the least racist people on the planet are probably conservative whites who are likely to judge you based on your character rather than ethnic background. Brown people, Arabs in particular, are about as racist as they come.
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Yeah thats just untrue.
Conservative whites are racist as fuck, though not to the cartoonish levels that the media would have us believe. I worked at a country club as a kid and the shit these guys say when they think its "just us" is really racist. Not on the level of like how Caribbean blacks hate American blacks, but similar levels in a different flavor.
Its what Patrice O'neal called "that racist shit you can never prove".
Momo_dollar 5 years ago
Asians of all types are probably the most racist and also the first cry "racism is wrong" when they are the victims.
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Honestly in all my life I have never met an Asian who bitched about racism.
They tend to just stoically soldier on and achieve, whether it be in a menial field or the heights of main stream success.
Momo_dollar 5 years ago
The frequent amount of " why don't white girls like Asians" posts tells a different story.
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Momo_dollar 5 years ago
I know in places like Thailand and India they discriminate against fellow Indians and Thais who are darker etc n judge foreigners by stereotypes.
IllimitableMan 5 years ago
Blacks already do it, red bone, yellow bone, all this shit. Basically among blacks, the darker you are, the less status, the lighter skin, the better. Especially if it's a chick. You seriously can't make this shit up. The people who go on about race the most actually have a more nuanced way to discriminate based upon one's amount of blackness. Hilarious. That's the future for EVERYONE if all of humanity is mixed into a muddied brown obscurity.
PaulMurrayCbr 5 years ago
Rachel Dolezal, anyone? The ultimate black girl.
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This isn't exclusive to black people.
A joke I used to tell in highschool was something along the lines of "white people are so racist, they hate other white people".
Then I would go into some detail about irish vs English vs german vs French etc.
It's just a built in mechanism for humanity to be tribe like and to treat people that don't look similar differently.
bluedrygrass 5 years ago
White people don't fight each other because of race, but because of ideals, cultures and interests.
In Africa, black people slaughter each other to death purely based on racial differences (that no one else can tell, as they're all black the same)
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A light skin nigga wrote this post.
Ransal 5 years ago
lmao I haven't heard this yet.
Imagine it, they hate/envy white skin color yet don't want it to be pure. It has to be a perfect balance of white and black to suit their desires.
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IllimitableMan 5 years ago
Irony knows no bounds, honestly dude the world is a pretty fucked up place.
choomguy 5 years ago
Yeah, but it's my fucked up place.
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Depends on how you view yourself in relatuon to the world. And how you view the world.
What you think is fucked up says more about you.
CptDefB 5 years ago
As a note, India has this built into their caste system. I don't know how long the system has been around, but India...
IllimitableMan 5 years ago
Wherever there's no white man to blame, everyone wants to be as close in shade to white as possible. Hilarious really, isn't it.
Gadnuk_ 5 years ago
I spent some time in India and this shit is so true. One of our group was Bengali American and when we visited isolated towns they would literally shoo him away when they took pictures with us because to them he was just another dark skinned Indian.
We did a sustainable development project with a small group of Indian students, and I still get FB friend requests from their cousins/aunties/friends who I never even met because there is social status to be had from them being friends with white westerners.
All of the glamorous ads feature 1/16th Indians that are otherwise white because that is socially desirable but technically still represents Indian people.
This could well be because now the country is trying to get past the caste system so they needed to find another way to segregate.
The Danish aren't fond of the Swedes. The English and French hate each other. The Tutsis and Hutus chopped each other to pieces in Rwanda. The Serbs Bosnians and Croats slaughtered each other in the 90s. The Shi'ites and Sunnis are in perpetual sectarian conflict. The Catholics and Protestants of Europe hated each other for centuries. These are all relatively localized disputes that arose between people who are the same race but slightly different in other ways.
It's amazing how we think the world is always progressing towards getting along, when really we are just finding new things to fight about every time we get past the current reason to hate.
It is clearly part of human nature and tribalism. I'm not saying we should accept discrimination, but to think we can all get along by censoring free speech and demonizing those who don't subscribe to the progressive ideals is fucking hilarious.
Tldr: when race eventually ceases to exist we will just find new and elaborate ways to have ingroups and undesirables. It's just the way the world turns.
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thisishowiwrite 5 years ago
Just to weigh in here:
I can't remember where I read it, but a scientist/philosopher/anthropologist once produced a theory regarding the ancient Incan and Mayan societies' use of human sacrifices.
Essentially, humans CRAVE an enemy. There always has to be an "us" and "them". By sacrificing someone occasionally, they produced a "them" for the remainder of society to gather together and demonise or at least view as different.
Doesn't seem so barbaric when you compare it to the modern day media jerking our strings over black/white, islam/west issues does it?
fingerthemoon 5 years ago
According to Steven Pinker's book 'The Better Angles of Our Nature' (he's actually atheist), things are getting much better. He has a lot of empirical evidence that we're living in an unprecedented time of peace. Violence is down all across the board. Worth listening to what he has to say.
Here's a lecture about the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5X2-i_poNU
ether_reddit 5 years ago
It won't end until we discover life on other planets and have something to unite against.
icecow 5 years ago
also wiki Narcissism of small differences
EdmondDaunts 5 years ago
Star Trek was talking about this shit back in the 60's with "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield".
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well, white is just the body fighting a vitamin D deficiency. And for brown countries, a way of signalling you don't have to work in the sun like a pleb, white is just signalling affluence and lack of menial labour.
It makes perfect sense. dark blacks worked the field, light skinned blacks were house-niggers... of course there was hate, they were the ones who liked the masters, and were treated better generally.
Everything makes sense if you look at the why
bluedrygrass 5 years ago
I don't think the explanation is that complicated. That may be one of the reasons behind it, but it gives more of a vibe of people preferring lighter shades for the sheer beauty and cleanness of it. "Pure" and all that stuff.
CheeseWeasel3015 5 years ago
Its funny, they actually blame the British for promoting it. It seems they have stopped reading their own literature...
ManoshD 5 years ago
The Brits did certainly promote the racism and divide that country though.
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CptDefB 5 years ago
That is definitely true. I've given the "Why?" train a glance a couple times, but I know that ride is bound to derail. If there are ETs, they must watch us for comedy. The shit we do makes no sense.
grubek 5 years ago
In Europe some centuries ago extreme whiteness was looked for because it meant you were rich and did not have to work outside in fields or whatever (where the sun would tan your skin).
During the 90's with more and more people working in front of computers inside offices, tanned skin became attractive, with people even paying for artificial tanning sessions, because it was associated with being outside and not needing to work. Then sun exposure and even more artificial tan was discovered to promote cancer and skin aging, so the trend reversed again.
So it is very possible that the preference for whiteness (and tanning in the 90's early 2000) is just a proxy for money. People, most probably unconsciously, associate lighter skin with wealth.
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Halfjor 5 years ago
Exactly. You see stuff like that on Twitter all the time. "Light skin niggas this, dark skin niggas this". Even if it sounds like they're joking it's very real. I overheard a black man telling his wife about someone and she said "Oh, that nice light skinned girl?"
People will segregate themselves into oblivion.
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So they're proud of being black but want to be white?
kek
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Malcolm X wrote about how his parents treated him better and that he was the favorite child because he was the lightest skinned.
IllimitableMan 5 years ago
Exactly, getting rid of white people won't end racism, if anything it will just change its complexion, people will find new ways to hate and segregate regardless of how diverse (or not) the rainbow is.
tigerjaws 5 years ago
Hell people will segregate themselves even if we were all the same tone of gray I remember when I was younger I told a teacher that if we started cloning humans we'd view them as second class citizens because we just tend to group shit together
crackalot 5 years ago
It won't end racism, but it'll end the white race. Which is exactly what it's designed to do.
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I'm sure neanderthals were part of a designed genocide too right?
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skulk2fade 5 years ago
My Fiance is Chinese Australian and I find this to be true. I find them to be more racist than whites (i am white).
I idea behind why this is is true, is that as a white man I know I have to be really really careful with any critical thing I say, otherwise I will get racist thrown in my face. But I think with minorities they don't need to worry about it as much and therefore end up being more racist without realizing it.
I am an atheist and I have been called racist because I wrote on fb i disagree with Islam. I tried to explain to commenters that Islam isn't a race of people, but eventually i just gave up!
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Can confirm, Japanese descendant here, people who are most likely to be discriminated are the ones that actually discriminate more.
Sometimes it's induced though, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be as racist, or prejudiced really, as I am if I had a regular childhood, not being the only one bullied around for being different.
But again, wouldn't trade my childhood for nothing, what doesn't kill you sometimes makes you stronger.
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White males are some of the least biased people in the world. Anyone who says otherwise has an agenda.
bluedrygrass 5 years ago
"Whites are the adults of the world"
The more you think about it, the more it makes sense, behaviourally.
macksdowntownsong 5 years ago
No doubt about it, it is in white countries where minorities can come to enjoy a successful life if they work for it.
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I'd say about the same, once you account for affluence.
people aren't special, they are just people. Take a white dude in the swamp, put him up against a poor chineese, you'll probably see the same bullshit, in a different flavour
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Liberalism is a mental disorder. Tons of rich liberals who hate as much as poor people. Tribalism is the core of liberalism. There can only be peace when you are of their tribe. Just like Africa or the ME.
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I'm not sure how you would quantify and measure that.
I can honestly say that whites are the only race that give preferential treatment to other races (and thus handicap their own), institutionalized into law and business doctrine.
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You could start with crime stats. But people would say it's only economics not race. But there are plenty of poor white people who don't attack others. You could look at the most and least civilized places in the world and try to draw a parallel. You could live among different races and see what your personal experiences were. But then they'd say your vision was tainted by privilege.
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I mean to be fair I find lighter skinned black women very attractive, but have never seen a dark black woman that I was attracted to in the least.
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dapowa 5 years ago
Gonna second that, never once.
ether_reddit 5 years ago
really? Samira Wiley is drop-dead gorgeous.
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Eugenics2015 5 years ago
The same way whites value blonds over brunettes and all those "self hating" brunettes bleach their hair blonde? I think a bunch of whites started killing each other over it in WW2.
Oh the humanity, you cant make this shit up.
IllimitableMan 5 years ago
You're comparing hair colour preference to race/skin tone because you didn't like what I said, hahaha - check your emotions bro. Nice username by the way, bonus points for irony.
Eugenics2015 5 years ago
You don't know me, I don't get upset about that crap. Racism is natural, i'm not one of those black people that care what you think.
Your comment was just plain retarded. Acting like appearance preferences are some new-fangled thing the white race has never seen before, "oooooh the barbarity." Grow up.
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Backfist 5 years ago
This is why white people should just be racist instead of having a defeatist attitude but the problem is it will morph into supremacy and oppression as white people have a tendency to whoop too much ass when properly motivated. White people would rather fall on their sword and not play bad guy than to ensure the continued survival of their race. We will be the first major ethnicity to get cucked out of existence and it will be completely voluntary.
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cadthrower 5 years ago
"Multiculturalism for white countries, monoculturalism for everywhere else!"
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bluedrygrass 5 years ago
No other race would be as benevolent, imposed or not. For example take in consideration the race you rave so much about, the one that pretends to be smarter while actually having never produced any of the highest intellectual achievements of the humanity. The only thing that race is very good about, is fraud. That race has lived his entire history parasiting other nations and populations and trying in any way to insediate and destroy them, in spite of how good they were treated.
But go ahead and try to spin the narrative in your favour, as is compulsive to the likes of you.
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I'm all for a program of mandatory deportation of the white liberal bleeding hearts who cry diversity every second sentence. We can spin a wheel and have them sent anywhere from Haiti to Nigeria.
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thisishowiwrite 5 years ago
Pretty sure he wasn't talking about the media in the 17th century, but rather the agenda today.
Edit: I'm Australian, and there is a HUGE multicultural push here. Has been happening my whole life. I've never understood exactly why we need to place such an emphasis on bringing in foreigners, but apparently it's for "cultural" reasons or some shit. Well, I can't remember the last time I saw a decent street party or a neighbourhood barbecue, and that was once a mainstay of Aussie culture. I feel like our culture is being diluted rather than reinforced.
alphbux 5 years ago
I think in the past immigration did good things for Australia with the Europeans coming over after WW2. But they share similar views on morality to us. Islam is irreconcilable.
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You should just start asking people why diversity is good. It's actually surprising how poorly thought out their reasoning and answers are - if they can even formulate one.
The best they can do is usually some form of 'exchanging ideas' but my personal favorite that's become something of a meme at this point is how many just immediately go to 'cultural foods!'.
As if it's literally impossible a Scottish bloke can figure out how to roll sushi or something.
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RedPillProphet 5 years ago
Bio major here. This is actually false. Intermixing does not lead to disappearance or even reduction of recessive alleles. Recessive alleles are only phenotypically hidden in the presence of dominant alleles. They are still there in the same quantity and will manifest themselves whenever the dominant alleles are not in the mix.
E.g. lets say brown eyes are dominant and blue eyes are recessive. While its true that the first generation after a cross between pure blue and pure brown eyes will be all brown, the number of blue eyes alleles will still be 50%. The second generation will be 25% blue again and as long as mixing is random it will stay in those exact proportions for all future generations.
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Yes and no.
When I was doing volunteer work down in the Caribbean I saw all types of mulatos. With all the European powers trading control, all the indigenous populations, all the immigrants from other commonwealths BITD such as Hong Kong/India, there were all kinds of interesting mulatos.
Like you would see black girls with natural blonde or even red hair. Same thing with green or blue eyes.
That doesn't make them the same thing as a Nordic blond or an Irish lass.
So yes, in some cases