Update post. So this girl that was excited about me apparently lost interest last weekend, her energy completely shifted from excited to talk to me, initiating conversations, etc to suddenly being dry. I tried to only text for logistics for the most part, i asked her out again which she wasn't available for.
Then she ghosted me the entire weekend, so i double texted (ik it's a mistake but I thought her interest in me was high enough). Then I think i fucked up further by acting a bit needy and telling her "i really want to see her again i felt a lot of chemsitry and ik you do things spontaneously so let me know whatever" to leave the ball in her court, to which she replied with some emotional bullshit "ohh i was just thinking about you too because im at X spot picking up food for my little brother" (the spot we went to that night). I know the answer is go fuck other women but wtf, this was my first experience with a girl that was exactly my type, super hot and amazing personality. I can't believe I lost her that easily. Do women really move on this easily? I mean yeah she's probably fucking with some other guys now and I'm not her top option anymore but wtf. I can't believe i'm that replaceable. We had a great night, she went from begging me to text her back and calling me daddy to being left on delivered for days now. WTF.
I know Im supposed to have abundance mindset too but i don't want to give up on this girl that easily. I'm talking to other girls on the apps but i'm gonna keep pinging her every couple of weeks cause i want her. I don't think she's gonna come back around if I leave it alone so that's my strat going forward.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 1d ago
She ticks lots of idealized boxes you have inside your mind.
But... BUT... she's proven herself as NOT your type, by one of the most important measures of all: the level of attraction and commitment she feels for YOU!
Long and hard experience, and copious sharing of notes, shows that virtually nothing you do will turn this situation around to what you hope for. Further, that TRYING anyway, ends up working against you by many measures, from opportunity cost, to pride and self esteem, to the woman sometimes willfully exploiting your attraction with zero intention of delivering anything you actually want, aside from minimum scraps of attention to keep you on the hook.
Accept that you shot your shot, it didn't develop how you hoped and never will, and relegate this woman to the scrap heap of your attraction/dating history.
This makes you fully mentally and physically available to pursue other prospects, and land a woman who DOES act the part of holding mutual attraction with you.
Hugo_The_Great 9h ago
Truth. Looking back on all the mistakes I made with women over the years I am so glad I never got infatuated with any girl that wasn't at least as infatuated with me.
Also; so many girls I dated who went from guy-to-guy and got their hearts broken over and over again simply because of the fact that they were so caught up in their own feelings/infatuation that they never cared to think how invested the guys were. In many aspects dating is just finding someone you like and then gauging if they are about equally as much into you and then slowly playing tit-for-tat.
joyboy 1d ago
She was mutually attracted for the week after the first date though. She would check in, message me, and was way higher investment. I either fucked it up or some other guy entered the picture which im assuming is more likely.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
You do know women have near unlimited options on Tinder and apps, right?
You pretty much have to strike while the iron is hot on app girls, especially Tinder.
Even when you smash, app girls are notorious for fucking multiple men or moving onto their other options. Even if they have a great time during sex or you make them cum a dozen times they are notorious for their shiny-object chasing whoredom and short attention spans
That being said women only truly invest in you if you've had sex or she is trying to have sex with you. The trying part is the only important part if you haven't had sex yet. If she is really invested in fucking you she'll still drop almost everything in hopes to fuck you.
Otherwise women will not invest. Again, app girls are notorious for this shor-term mating strategies and talking to 50 guys, you should have never sent a frame loss text like that to an app girl. They are the town bikes of the internet
Next time don't miss high notes to kiss and don't escalate in public. You really should rent a room in a house of guys or something so you have a reliable place to smash..not having a place to smash is going to wreck your pull rate
joyboy 1d ago
I know shes compeltely ran through but man shes so fucken hot. If i post another girl on my story will that make her jealous enough to want me back? I just want to fuck her too, I just want my turn if she's fucken multiple dudes. And yeah i know not having a place to pull is ruining my chances. But she said she wanted me to take lead so maybe i shoudlve just been lilke "open the car door" and been more dom or something. I keep replaying that night in my head and trying to come up with things I could’ve done different. Like maybe had a Hotel or Airbnb on standby, but then again I didn’t know she was going to be that hot since most app girls are catfishes
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
Dude. Let it go
You're pedestalizing her
Jesus man this is not taking the lead. Stop listening to the words they say.
Fuck new women
joyboy 23h ago
Nah I’m not gonna let it go bro I need to crack this girl you don’t understand. I can’t bring myself to swipe on any other girls they’re all fucken chopped compared to her. I have a oneitis for a bop it is what it is
Vermillion-Rx Admin 23h ago
You're going to humiliate yourself and also not get laid
Dude I've been there fumbling a hot chick. There are more hot chicks where that came from
Let it go. I'm not helping you with the aftermath if you fuck up any further with this chick
joyboy 23h ago
Dude if i let it go she'll just forget about me and move on, like you said they have too many options. I might as well keep trying idgaf. The way i see it i have a higher chance of her coming back if she sees my post and gets jealous or some shit instead of just fading into the unknown. I haven't cracked so theres no chance she'll spin back like I'm an old FWb or anything like that
Vermillion-Rx Admin 23h ago
Are you fucking kidding me right now??
Are you retarded?
That won't work. She'll get the ick and you'll be ashamed. That's not gonna work dude.
Jesus Christ man read the sidebar again
Read this post till your eyes bleed and you give up from embarrassment at what you're doing:
You're not her top option
The read this and get yourself a place even if it's just a spare room in some dudes house or a group of guys sharing an apartment or whatever:
End Game
Vermillion-Rx Admin 23h ago
[Emphasis mine]
joyboy 22h ago
Yea i read that, thats why im not gonna text her anymore. She doesn't have to click on my story, but if she does she'll see it. That's the point of making it a public story, im not sending it to her directly. And I was her top option at one point with instant replies, her double texting me, asking what i was up to that day etc. plus if she sees me with another girl after I sent her some “vulnerable” text she might get pissed off. Id rather have that then fade into obscurity cause some random chad got to her. If that doesn't work then i'll give it up and just move on
Vermillion-Rx Admin 21h ago
Bro she's an app girl she was doing that with her 5-10 best options
Stop coping.
This is some of the most beta desperation I've seen in a long time. You post stories because you're awesome not because you want to indirectly get the attention of a hoe you're big sad over and can't stop thinking about
Holy hell man. Have some self respect.
You're yet another man who comes to TRP looking to learn pickup/seduction to carry out your blue pill compulsions instead of actually wanting to follow TRP teachings, which is a lot more than just getting pussy
joyboy 21h ago
Dude what, she was giving me instant compliance, the first time i asked her out she instantly agreed + she was blowing up my phone for the few days after the date. Why tf would she be acting like that with everyone. I was clearly her top guy for a bit, then somebody else caught her attention
And i don't care dude i'll do any sort of manipulation or petty tricks to fuck her
Vermillion-Rx Admin 21h ago
Holy fuck dude.
I've seen women in person use apps. They are replying instantly to every one of their top options and filling their schedule, usually like 2 dates a day each day
Because it's a dating app and she has 2k options
You'd be make 10 plans a week if you had that many women trying to ride your dick
Stop being retarded
You sound like a loser and a lunatic typing this shit
Get a grip you sound like you're having a compete meltdown instead of taking advice
joyboy 21h ago
We spent 5 hours together she did not have multiple dates that day bro.
Yet she was still very engaged/warm via text for an entire week after the first date so clearly I did something right lol.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 20h ago
Yeah and being a desperate crazed beta isn't helping
You clearly don't have enough experience to understand what app girls do
Also why are you blindly accepting what she says. Do you not understand women much at all
Bro let it go. If she didn't make take you up on plans she's certainly not going to with this behavior
I don't know what else to say, it's beating a dead horse to keep telling you this shit won't work
Ghost her and fuck other women. If she comes back great. If not then too bad.
There's nothing else you can do
Being a crazed and thirsty beta never works. The more texts you send the worse your chances after she already declined a second meet
joyboy 20h ago
If I just forget about her do you reallly think she’ll spin back around? We definitely had a great vibe the entire time and she seemed like she wanted to see me again for sure so I’m just so confused right now. I feel like cause we didn’t fuck I’m just a nobody to her even though we did do some intimate stuff, which is why I need to keep pushing/pressing to get the outcome I want . I mean dude she called me daddy while I had her pinned against the fucken car bro like wtf. I thought she was mine at that point.
And I’m stil going out with other girls so how tf is that beta. A beta is a orbiter who has no options so he just consistently is there for the girl in hopes of cracking one day.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 18h ago
No, she won't circle back because YOU were the one vibing hard out of inexperience, not her.
She just wanted to fucc and you made it clear you don't have a place or experience
She's not coming back dude. And if she does, it will only be by ignoring her
What you did was barely intimacy for a woman. So what, pinning her against a car in an inexperienced manner and then not knowing how to pull was not that intimate to her
These women are fucking at Chad's place on the first date, why would the level of physicality you had with her compare to what she's easily gotten?
Women kiss all the time without smashing, it doesn't mean anything
https://www.forums.red/p/theredpill/3438/it_didn_t_mean_anything
You seemingly have no idea how women work man
I'm not teaching you game from scratch in a long ass thread
Let it go. If you spent more time actually studying game instead of mentally masturbating and being unprepared, it would make more sense to you
joyboy 18h ago
Damn bro i cant believe it. Shit fucking sucks. I fumbled the hottest girl i had a chance with cause of my inexperience. Maybe I shouldve just tried fucking her on the hood of the car cause it was an empty parking lot. I don't think im gonna get another chance like that again, my apps are fucking dead again bro. I should just give up this shit aint for me .
Vermillion-Rx Admin 18h ago
My fucking god dude
You're responding to this like a complete bitch
That would not have worked. What girl wants to have high risk public sex with a dude she just met
Holy fuck dude you are handling this like a complete bitch
She's not the only hot woman
Stop fucking whining and get some experience and smash pad
Dxmx99 1d ago
They get attached to emotion, fickly. It's easy to sudden evaporate her interest.
Does sex equal a more intense attachment - of course.. but are the fan girls of top chart celebs fucking those guys?
My real honest opinion is, don't worry about it. You can be fuckin a girl for a while, think she loves you or sees you as special, just to find out she's blowing her botox technician.