First and foremost im well aware of the only text for logistics but is there any nuance to texting?
For example I lose a lot of girls on the first one or two texts and I don’t have anything to compare it to in terms of response rate, idk if its me or normal. Almost all of these girls who I’ve texted have already agreed to a date.
I literally just say hey it x from so and so where we met. They reply whats I up i give a short answer about what im doing ask hbu and then 3-4 texts having a convo then confirm the plans.
But I lose so many girls simply by saying im doing x wbu. I dont know if im being vague or boring or whatever. I recently read OmLaLa post about texting and saying as few words as possible, but im thinking nowadays girls are so overstimulated that they cant keep there attention on anything that isnt entertaining them.
Is there any merit in sending a more interesting text and then after rapport toning it down.Im not sure if this is just part of the churn. I’ve kind of become jaded now assuming they just met a guy they like better but its just such a dropoff I assume this is the result of infinite options on their end.
Do yall ever give second chances as well as I gain more experience Ive kinda stopped trying again and just pursue a diff girl.
Edit: Title is referring to my texting strategy not overall texting strategy
Red_dead Should i (x1) 4d ago
Tbh im not sure on this one I feel as if being more interesting wouldnt hurt at first to differentiate you from all the same texts she gets. But I don’t know maybe I should just jump straight to date confirmation.
She prob not that interested I guess.
Bozza 2 3d ago
Few potential issues here, but first give a bit more context. Where are you meeting these chicks? How did you game them? What happened?
Red_dead Should i (x1) 3d ago
About 50% at like events/ happy hours/nightgame 50% online
Red_dead Should i (x1) 3d ago
At events I usually just walk up make an observational comment like this djs good, sometimes ill compliment what there wearing. I try to tease like oh you’re into that type of music, you look like the type, or this isn’t gonna work. Then just normal bs. Im not good at teasing during cold approach. But if weve known each other a while girls say im funny/asshole, but i come off as an asshole because I have a dry sense of humor that takes a while to get used to- from a girl I fucked. Then i usually end in lets do this x. Ive been experimenting with asking their schedule first, or what they’re doing next week.
Online it really depends, most of these girls dont have shit on their profiles, but I definitely feel its on the boring side, in my prime I was probably matching with every 3rd girl I swiped on but its gone down, not sure why. Not sure how to tease over text bc like I said my sense of humor is apparently not for text. I do get told frequently irl im funny tho. But same thing around 5-7 from me I plant date idea early in interaction then number. But where I get the flakes is as soon as I text. Assuming she didn’t stop answering. I match with pretty hot girls but, I have trouble with hotter ones they still answer but I feel they get bored.
Bozza 2 3d ago
When it comes to night game, don't bother getting numbers. It's a complete waste of time.
By the next morning, she's forgotten who you are. She's hungover. The mood's gone. She went home with someone else after you left - whatever. Point is there's a window of opportunity and you've missed it.
If you're doing night game, you need to fuck her that night. Otherwise just cut your losses and move on. Maybe you bump into her again and can try another time.
The problem with numbers is that girls hand them out like confetti. Just because you got a number doesn't mean she'll fuck you or even go on a date with you, or even that she likes you. It just means you have her number.
Remember, girls are all about emotion. You two may have really hit it off in the bar or whatever, but the next morning? Her emotional state has reset. Everything that happened last night is now irrelevant, and she is now a cold lead again. This is why you should always push for a close whenever feasible, and never just settle for a number.
But when getting a number is your only option, you need to leave a lasting impression and end on a high note. Escalate, kiss if possible, but make sure that you leave on a high note of sexual and emotional tension.
This maybe partly where you're going wrong. If you're not building a lasting impression, and are just asking for the number your flake rate is going to be much higher.
Bozza 2 3d ago
Wayyy too much texting.
If you've already met her, jump straight to logistics - It's Red_dead from [place]. Let's grab some drinks saturday 8pm.
If she's from tinder, cut out most of that. Flip directly from her "what's up" into a flirt or date setup.
Yeah because it's boring and indecisive. 90% of guys do this, and so you're already showing beta tendencies. Her eyes are already rolling and she's thinking "oh here we go again, another beta who wants to chat about my day" yawn.
Works perfectly well providing SMV is high (for tinder) or good sexual/emotional tension was built (if IRL).
Read my field report on tinder game.
No. You can't build attraction via text. And you dont need rapport to fuck a girl.
Push for logistics always.
Girls are flakey as hell so yeah this is just "churn" that you need to deal with. But the higher your SMV is, the less churn you will have.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
Your game does not sound good on nightgame.
This is not how an experienced guy would describe his night game
Your online game sounds like your profile isn't selling yourself much at all
Your formula is broken from the start
Red_dead Should i (x1) 2d ago
Can you elaborate on the nightgame portion more.
Bozza 2 1d ago
This gives the impression that you're not confident and probably not building enough attraction before going in for the number.
Bozza 2 3d ago
Agree. The issue isn't OPs texting, but more what he's doing before the texting.
Needs to improve his night game and his tinder profile.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
Absolutely.
Whenever I try making plans with a girl and it only becomes talking to them after a few volleys, either with "busy this week" or a couple failed attempts to make plans I just start ghosting pretty fast as soon as it became apparent they didn't feel enough in person
It happens. Sometimes you send a feeler text and you immediately know there isn't anything there
best to become unavailable to text until they become available to make plans and go for new women
Always Be Closing
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
I can't really tell in your comment if you're trying to answer your own question as required but you really need to I've told you before to
Red_dead Should i (x1) 3d ago
What is igr?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
If your next post doesn't have a "should i" question I'll remove your flair
(I'm not saying this one did)
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
I've*
Red_dead Should i (x1) 3d ago
Yea, that was my attempt a poor one albeit. Wasnt sure how to answer it.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
You need to give a serious attempt to think of it yourself. Even if it's wrong
No-Stress-Cat 3d ago
So why do you keep using it if it's driving the women away?
What exactly do you want from these women? What are you texting them for? Tell them what you want.
"I'm getting hungry, I'm going to go to ... and get some ..., you want to come with?" Then go do that. If they don't want to go, hit up the next girl. If you end up going by yourself, maybe there's a woman at the place who might like to join you.
"Have you ever had ...? It's one of my best dishes. I'm going to whip some up, you want to come over and try it out and tell me what you think?" Then do that. Whip up your dish, put on a movie, and chill and eat.
You have to do stuff, and invite women to join you. If they don't want to, fuck 'em. The next girl is probably sitting around all bored and stuff anyway.
Red_dead Should i (x1) 3d ago
Wasn’t sure if it was just the nature of the game or actual text.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
Nothing you can really do if they weren't already that interested
Texting is mostly for logistics
https://www.forums.red/p/theredpill/323924/vrx_texting_guide