One kind of odd dichotomy in the RP theorizing that puzzles me is hypergamy vs SMV as a motivator for female sexuality. As just one example, if you watch Casey Xander's videos you will see he kind of refers to them interchangeably. One of his favorite phrases is that women loses their sexual attraction when "hypergamy is not satisfied", yet he also constantly harps on SMV as the sexual motivator. However, if we look at these two things they are really totally different things.
Hypergamy tends to towards social status and provider strength (or according to Xander, moral strength), but SMV involves bodily attractiveness, preselection, abundance and so forth. So, what turns a woman on? Hypergamy or SMV?
Xander says that ultimately hypergamy trumps SMV because a woman wants a man who is "better" than them, meaning morally better according to him (ie, not lustful, jealous, gluttonous, slothful, etc.), whereas SMV just leads to lustful situations where the woman loses respect for the guy because he is dick motivated, so it doesn't matter how high his SMV is if he is projecting lust. He claims (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrNlX5HRIV8&ab_channel=CaseyZander) that women will not actually sleep with high SMV guys on the side IF they have a hypergamous option, and he implies that they only sleep around with SMVs in a search for high hypergamy. I definitely get this sense sometimes with some of the women I am exposed to, especially the higher value ones. But whether this is really true, I am not sure. I guess I kind of want to put an airtag on a few them to just to test this--if they have high hypergamy, do they abandon guys with high SMV (the underwear models)?
whytehorse2021 1mo ago
HoeMath explores these questions. His zones video answers this question really well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE
Testme 1mo ago
That's a very interesting theory.
The caster (a former bad boy) is basically agreeing with Zander. He is saying if a guy is in the "Prince Charming" zone, then to quote him "she will be much less likely to look elsewhere", ie to cheat with guys in the "Bad Boy" zone.
whytehorse2021 1mo ago
Yup. We're finally breaking away from the alpha/beta confusion and clarifying those in better ways. They have always been place-holders for provisioning, protection, and paternity(good dad). The bad boy provides protection and status, the good guy provides resources/attention and parental investment.
Durek_The_Bald 1mo ago
That's the purely sociological understanding of hypergamy, which fails to take into account the highly forbidden idea (within the humanistic sciences) of women's dual mating strategy (AF/BB).
Although the term "hypergamy" is borrowed from sociology, TRP expands the term to entail everything that makes a man "better", or "worse" - both beta and alpha credentials.
Obviously, the TRP understanding of "hypergamy" is far more accurate and all encompassing, as you can't just ignore 50% of what makes women tick (the alpha side of the equation), and still think you've explained anything.
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
This post is silly.
As far as I can see, OP is trying to unravel hypergamy and SMV, but in the process gets all mixed up and confuses the two even more. In many ways, OP demonstrates a way of thinking that is very similar to the way that women think.
@Testme ..... this is not the first time we have had this convo. You seem to think that women are disgusted with men that have 'low morals' and are promiscuous, shallow, vain, arrogant etc. You seem to think this because a) you want the world to be that way and b) because that is what women say they don't like. They say they don't like assholes (but their actions prove otherwise).
You then proceed to wonder out loud why women will marry 'good men' but want to sleep with 'bad men'. This is all kinds of retarded. Women don't even know what they want, and have zero consistency over time. You have to stop analysing women as if they had rational or logically sequences. They are totally irrational. Women marry men that they really really lust after, and then dont' lust after them anymore once they are married BECAUSE THE MAN HAS MARRIED THEM!
Just because it makes no sense, doesn't mean its not happening. You still have not understood this. You still seem to think that if something makes no sense, it can't be true. You haven't made the leap yet.
Testme 1mo ago
I rarely see women marry men they lust after. In 90% of the marriages I see, the guy is being selected either because he has good social status and fits into her social circle well or because he is reliable and stable and she wants more stability in her life, or both.
I don't understand where you are getting "You then proceed to wonder out loud why women will marry 'good men' but want to sleep with 'bad men'." in my post. I never wrote that ever in the post above or any other.
Being an "asshole" and having poor morals are two totally different things. Xander's point is that women lose respect for men that show moral weakness, for example: lust or gluttony or pride. He further claims that once a woman's respect for a man drops below a certain point, then she will abandon him.
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Is OP going for the all time record of most downvoted post?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
redpillschool found it
https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/316888
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Good god that is 24 carat gold! I tried to give it a downvote, but it wont accept. What a classic!
I'm starting to worry about becoming 'too high value' myself, what do you think @Vermillion-Rx?
What do you think I should do to reduce my SMV to more realistic levels, so that chicks don't get so intimidated by me?
This ultra high SMV of mine is really hurting my game. Sucks to be me.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
That post was so bad it helped inspire my satire tribe. I made my satire tribe about 5 days later
A true beauty in shit quality posting
In your case you could start crying way more about your status. But that might inadvertently make you more fuckable when she finds out how high value you are
You might just need to do a leg shortening surgery man
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
I'm way ahead of you dude. I already did LSS back in 2020. It cost me $90k and brought me down from 6"8 to 6"3. I also did some cock reduction surgery while I was there, at a cost of $130k. This was very efficient, because apart from my excessively chadly physical characteristics, it helped reduce my excessive bank balances.
But I'm still floundering, still struggling with my excessively high SMV, can you help me? There is nothing in the side bar, no resources for Inchads.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Oh man you're going to have to pull out the big guns. Literally just start doing the exact opposite of TheRedPill sidebar.
Memorize the opposite of the sidebar to a t. Just change every do to don't and every don't to definitely do
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Got it. Will come back with some field reports. If I can get the time, because I just have way too many chicks throwing me IOIs all the time, so I rarely get any time to post. Damn it, there is a chick right now under my desk trying to blow me.
I'll get back to you soon.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Chads like u make me black pilled
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I saw -16 once
It was a post about how a guy had such high SMV that he was "tripping over his own dick" and didn't have time for anything but pussy and was losing all his productivity and not finding a relationship because of all the pussy he was getting
He spent about 5 of his 20 paragraph novel saying how distracting all the IOIs were alone and how he can't even walk through the parking lot without IOIs. I think the OP removed his post cause i can't find it no matter what I've searched but it was the most heavily downvoted post I've ever seen
My best satire couldn't compare with his post
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
16! That was a collectors item! You should have screen grabbed it and exhibited it in our Museum of Sperginess. Seriously, we need a section where we can post such gems for posterity.
Another idea we discussed some time ago, was the concept of having 'Sperg of the Week' in which we just highlight the stupidest most ill conceived nonsense that we had in the week. It would be fun, but it would also serve a useful purpose.... If people were to see that stupid comments are met with appropriate derision, they would think twice about posting nonsense.
If there's one thing that we should get rid of in modern discourse, its the idea that we should NEVER deride or mock. There are some ideas that are simply so stupid and deranged that the only sensible response is derision. That is how society has worked for thousands of years. The risk of derision acted as a brake against idiotic assertions.
The removal of that feature from public discourse is why we now have people that run around with blue hair accusing others who don't believe in their fairy tales of being racist / sexist / transphobic.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
I actually launched Sperg Of The Month last year. You even participated in some of the threads!
I've been slacking on that, though, for many reasons i might go into another time.
OP of this post is a shoo-in for March 2024 though.
CC: @Vermillion-Rx
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Indeed! I forgot that you started it already.
By all means, post this thread in Sperg of The Month - its got stiff competition.
Is there a voting function? Where we can make it more democratic? Some sites have a quick vote function that is quite fun to use.
Just for your own amusement, you should check out https://twitter.com/stateoflinkedin?lang=en
The humour is very british, so might not carry. But I think its hilarious. It's basically some guy that finds them most retarded posts that he can on on Linked in, then reposts them. he used to group the posts into shoot outs, where users could vote for which was the most retarded, which was a great feature, great fun. It was organised in the same way as the soccer World Cup, with Group A, Group B etc and then the winner of the groups would go on to a knockout stage for a chance to win the cup.
An early winner was this post... a classic for the ages.
https://twitter.com/StateOfLinkedIn/status/1579925348862808064/photo/2
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I wasn't a mod/admin at the time. I didn't have a vested interest in screen grabbing and didn't have the ability to revive posts or see admin post logs after he deleted it. I don't know if he was banned or not or simply deleted it and I'm not going to be able to find that post again unless @redpillschool could look even deeper into his god logs that even I don't have to find that post. Maybe @redpillschool could link me that post from the downvotes and loose description alone if he can see downvote data in the last couple years
Had i known that OP was going to delete that 69-karot gem i wouldn't have passed up the opportunity to screen grab
@typo-MAGAshiv
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
@redpillschool this is the post I'm looking for, or at least his username if you could find me this post/user based on downvotes in the last couple years and/or his line "tripping over my own dick" in his post body which i remember
I have tried searching it many times to no avail but maybe you could find it far more easily with your extra data like downvotes or something in the last 2 years
redpillschool Admin 1mo ago
https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/316888
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Holy fuck why didn't i just ask you before or scroll further than one year
redpillschool Admin 1mo ago
Nothing top secret I put quotes around the search term: https://www.forums.red/i/asktrp/?showall=1&search=%22tripping+over+my+own+dick%22
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I didn't know you could do quotes
I thought you could only do + and - sign searches
Any other search bar formatting that causes certain results??
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
at the moment he is an equal tie for down voting with some sperg asking permission to do LLS for most downvoted post of the week.
Who will win? I'm excited.
MarianaCoat 1mo ago
To be fair, website layout change contributes to change in votes and engagement.
Can't compare lemons with limes.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Yes but he's talking about two posts that were made in the same two days after that feature was rolled out, so no, it's not lemons and limes
MarianaCoat 1mo ago
'all time' would be one part, 'equal tie' relates to the other.
I think you need to give up 'autistic' badge you were claiming to have long time ago
/meta
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
It's a Sperg-Off!
I can't decide between them.... LLS is plain mad, but this post by Testme has more interesting elements to it.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
LLS just had one serious mental pet issue and is probably just very lonely. TM is extremely genuinely deep in the rabbit hole of sperg self-actualization and is also on the highest of high horses in game trying to joust against reality
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
...and charging at windmills full pelt.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Is this a bri'ish joke?
Went over my head
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Nah bruv, not bri-ish. Referencing Don Quixote.
Tilting at windmills is an English idiom that means "attacking imaginary enemies". The expression is derived from Don Quixote, and the word "tilt" in this context refers to jousting. This phrase is sometimes also expressed as "charging at windmills" or "fighting the windmills".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote#:~:text=Tilting%20at%20windmills%20is%20an,or%20%22fighting%20the%20windmills%22.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I never knew that, i looked up the phrase once and didn't get that good of an explanation first time
coolsocks00 1 1mo ago
This is nonsense.
Hypergamy describes women’s tendency to «date up», in terms of sexual market value. It’s not one or the other.
Dude is a red pill adjacent dating coach who will define things as he sees fitting to his program. Dont worry about that. Take what practical advice you can get and get out.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I can't stand Casey Zander. Too many RP dudes coming into here, finding this guy's TRP adjacency and then coming back onto TRP and preaching it back into our space as some kind of gospel. Not only that but treating him like an authority figure
I really can't stand his content. There is something about it that just rubs me wrong. He's a jacked millionaire telling dudes semi-snake oil that isn't totally RP and I think most of his viewership misses the grain of salt aspect of HIS APPEAL to women for various reasons over the content he preaches.
I don't know why every guy that watches his sh*t seems to regard him as such an authority figure. It's not canon and I get the impression he must be offering blue pill/purple pill nuggets in some of his content to get such a cult following if canon doesn't do it for some of the guys on here
Testme 1mo ago
I guess this would be more believable if you explained why his content is not "totally RP".
Note that Xander himself considers his theories to be more detailed, more accurate and better developed than other competing "content creators" (guys like Bobby Rio and Orion Taraban) and I would tend to agree with him.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I don't give a F what Casey thinks of his own sh*t. He is not a RP figurehead. If you prefer his content over ours then go join his community.
First of all, sexual strategy is amoral, the fact he even talks about "moral hypergamy" at all is anti-RP. From the few videos I've seen of him he has too many innacurate takes
You're welcome to spoon-feed yourself on his content but don't come onto here and try to talk about him like an authority figure here. He ISN'T. Don't post like he is, that isn't going to fly
Testme 1mo ago
Well, you are not a content creator at all, or at least only in a minor sense. The sidebar is stuff you have copied from other places, not stuff you have written yourself. I was comparing Xander to Bobby Rio and Taraban, guys who actually create structured content, not to random forum commentators because snippets in forums are not structured content.
I don't come here for structured content or theories. I come here to read anecdotes and to read insightful comments on structured content that may be elsewhere, like Xander's.
I do not see the necessity to talk about "authority". The way I see it, different people have different theories or outlooks and I learn by analyzing those different ideas and trying them out in the real world.
You sound a little bent and emotional about it. I do not understand why you would get all pissy about some theory. A theory is just a theory. There is no need to get angry about it. When you are angry, you are not learning anything.
Also, you do did not answer my question which was why you considered Xander to not be RP.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Of course you would resort to an ad hominem about not just me but every other guy who has created RP and contributed to it. I have also written a number of original structured content and have years of commenting and advice history. But somehow being on YouTube as a medium trumps the actual content of the writing
Of course you would do this, because you can't debate the ideas. You are unable to debate the idea and have to target the other person. "Content creator" my ass. Your definitions for what constitutes as being worthy of listening to someone is absurd.
.You sound a little bent and emotional about it. I do not understand why you would get all pissy about some theory. A theory is just a theory. There is no need to get angry about it. When you are angry, you are not learning anything.
Not "pissy" or "emotional". You are frequently off topic on here and now you are posting shit that is going to confuse some naive lurkers or noobs because it's not RP.
This is an RP forum, it is for RP.
@typo-MAGAshiv @MentORPHEUS @lone_ranger @problematic_browser @lurkerhasarisen @coolsocks00 @Intrepid_Place53900 @ObliviousDuck @mattyanon
Yeah, okay, there we have it, you finally admit that you didn't come to RP to learn or be RP, you just came here to read "anecdotes" while simultaneously wasting everyone's time by asking loads of RP-related questions with no intention to be RP. No wonder you frequently demonstrate no RP understanding, because you explicitly aren't here for it and you're posting in bad faith since everyone answering your posts is good faith assuming you are here to be RP.
Why do you even ask us questions then. Go to join communities you wish to integrate with.
I've given you numerous examples, as have other commenters, but you wish to NOT be RP clearly, which is why you can't see it. You're a joke, find a community you wish to actually be part of
ObliviousDuck 1mo ago
Not only that, but almost every advice he gives in the comments are counter productive, poorly calibrated and sometimes outright dangerous.
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
OP's main quibble with you (Vermy) is that you are not Casey Xander.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
OPs main quibble with everyone including Rollo is that he isn't Caseless Panderâ„¢
Casey is just appealing to his viewers sense or morality and coping while still trying to maintain manopshere lite
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Dickless Wonder?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Wouldn't be surprised
Problematic_Browser 1 1mo ago
I don't understand the guys who come here and do nothing but theory craft rather than trying to apply the shit on the sidebar.
None of us got to where we are mewling in forums - we did it by grabbing our nuts, lacing up our boots, and doing the work.
It bothers the fuck out of me seeing people here who don't want to take the most obvious steps to improving their lives yet want the outcomes of the people that have done the work.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I don't understand it either.
OP clearly read some of the content. It's not clear if he bothered reading the whole side bar, Rollo etc, but even if he did, he obviously didn't agree with it or he wouldn't be trying to argue against all of it and look elsewhere for information
There are other communities like r/purplepill for OPs like to join. I would take it there is a Xander community or whatever guru he wants to follow. I don't understand why these guys are so attached to our forum if it doesn't resonate with them
I suspect it's in large part because we are so willing to respond with deep answers that when these guys don't even agree with us they just can't get off the dopamine tap of getting their questions answered or something
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
OP has a major boner for Xander. He just comes on this site and says..."None of this shit is correct, because CX says......"
He needs to just quit and go round to CX's house to felate him 24/7. Then at least he would be happy, and nobody would need to hear his complaints anymore, because his mouth would be full.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
"Guys i just come into the church to hear Jesus anecdotes, but the Quran says!......"
MarianaCoat 1mo ago
here I have fixed it for you: it is rationalising
he still have no clue how to do it / is afraid to do it / doesn't believe he can do it / troll / blackpiller etc
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
I don't think it's necessarily either. OP just had a high class society fetish and isn't walking the walk when it comes down to it. Thinks "high value women" aren't controlled by the same impulses and urges as club whores.
While he has a point, OP is just determined as hell to force high society expectations into biological wiring and is in a perpetual loop of mental masturbation trying to jam a square into a circle shape hole
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Dude. Stop consuming Casey Zander for one. Fuck that guy. It's not canon, and he confuses almost every guy that seems to watch his content. Ive had to remove Casey Zander viewer posts over on the reddit because his content is not RP and is confusing to guys who watch him.
Two, you misunderstand the vocabulary if you're even asking this at all. Glossary of Red Pill Terms
SMV = Sexual Market[place] Value
Hypergamy = Reproducing/dating/fucking upwards (as @coolsocks00 mentioned.)
Women hypergamously date/fuck upwards based on SMV. If you are conflating the two terms or consuming the content of a guy who can't keep them straight either idk what to tell you.
Evolutionarily speaking, women fucked upwards as high as they could (high value mates back then would just fuck the most fertile and attractive women they could before making it down to the uggos, because they didn't have to) but not so high that high value men would abandon them during pregnancy
Women fuck upwards for the best genetics they can get for their offspring (fitness/symmetry/health, which is what physical attractiveness indicates evolutionarily) but not so high they'll be abandoned after pregnancy.
Modern dating has changed some of that (men weren't CEOs during caveman days) so there is some provisioning value that monkeys up women's overall dating decisions in the modern era, but their biological drives still have them trying to seek the best genetics for their offspring.
..
Going to use an example to answer your specific question
Kayla is a HB6. She likes Jimmy, who is a 7.5. (that's their SMV.) Kayla is a woman, so she is hypergamous, and Jimmy's SMV is higher than hers so she wants him for evolutionary and biological reasons. Now, Jimmy also acts and behaved like a masculine, ambitious, and confident man, so his perceived SMV to her (because tingles etc) has him at an 8 or 8.5 in her mind depending on the day/mood.
Now, Jimmy gets upset about something and starts acting like a groveling bitch and lets his appearance start sliding a bit from depression and anxiety. He cries like a complete fagg0t in front of Kayla and spills all his insecurities and life story while also looking more like shit and being drunk.
So even though Jimmy is a 7.5 at base value, he looks like a 6.5 from letting himself look like shit physically and his behavior drops him to a 5.5 to her.
Now his perceived fitness and attractiveness and masculinity is lower than Kayla's to her. So she stops being attracted to him.
Make sense now??
Testme 1mo ago
What is your reaction to the HoeMath video posted by WhyteHorse? It basically backs up Zander and the caster is supposedly a former "bad boy"/chad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE&ab_channel=hoe_math
If you watch the video, he says near the end if a girl has a guy in the Prince Charming zone, then she "is much less likely to go looking elsewhere", ie be desiring guys in the Bad Boy zone.
Obviously it is a little different because Zander is specifically calling out moral superiority as the key security feature, whereas HoeMath describes security in a multi-faceted way, but the essential point is the same: that hypergamous attraction trumps bad boy attraction and creates exclusivity. So, do you consider HoeMath just another blue pill "retard" who should be ignored?
Testme 1mo ago
So you seem to be saying that socioeconomic hypergamy (the original definition) should be disregarded and we should consider hypergamy only in terms of SMV.
I suppose you would also recommend disregarding Xander's theory of moral hypergamy to be completely irrelevant, as well.
Note that you did not address one of the key questions from my post (which is based in part on the linked video and also personal experience), which is whether as Xander claims, women abandon SMV seeking (SMV-based hypergamy) when they find a mate with higher moral standards. If you don't want to watch the video, basically what he says is that even the best chads have a "shelf" life because their relationship with the female is sex based and therefore inherently lustful (a moral weakness) and this causes the woman to steadily lose respect for the chad until she abandons him (which is why all chads have "rotations"), and he claims that if the female is in a morally hypergamous relationship then she will not seek out chads (high SMV players) at all (because "hypergamy is satisfied" in that case).
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
good lord this is just nonsense.
Intrepid_Place53900 1mo ago
(So you seem to be saying that socioeconomic hypergamy (the original definition) should be disregarded and we should consider hypergamy only in terms of SMV).
You are making this much more difficult than it actually is.
For short term fun, women want highest SMV they can get. But hey, let's not be idiots and think it's 100% this or that. For short term fun, a girl wants a hot guy, but if they guy has no personality or whatever he's less in the rankings. If he has bad hygeine, again, less in rankings and so on.
this is just for the "short term" stuff, it's mostly looks , mostly but not all, get it?
For a relationships, a woman looks for more, like does he have a job, money, will he take care of me, will he have conversations with me and meet my family and so on. The SMV , sure she'll try to get a guy as high as she can, but for a LTR, the smv is going to be a lot lower than the guy she just wants fun with.
short term = SMV Long term = RMV
Testme 1mo ago
Okay, I will take that as an answer, although several parts of my question went unanswered.
ObliviousDuck 1mo ago
You won't get a proper answer to your question because, as many have pointed out already, your question makes no sense.
It's like saying: "There is a strange dichotomy between fucking women and big tits. What is it that turn men on exactly? Having sex? Or big boobs? I don't understand why men like tits yet they also want to fuck many women?"
Intrepid_Place53900 1mo ago
( I don't understand why men like tits yet they also want to fuck many women)?
can't we do both? :)
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
good analogy
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Wtf. Did cavemen have that? The original definition wasn't defined but it was there. I genuinely don't understand why you think the way you do dude. You are fixated on so many socially generated technicalities and fine details to the detriment of big picture human nature concepts. But it's predictable how obsessed you are with the manufactured nature of high class society over the essence of basic human drives
This is bullshit. Women prefer a high value relationship at the end of the date versus a high value fuckbuddy but they prefer to lock down the high value sex pot with money. But often they can't do they settle for a guy who is more controllable.
Casey is a retard for inventing new terms out of his ass instead of just addressing nuance. Moral hypergamy is bullshit. Women will settle for less tingles when they can't lock down the tingles she wants. It's that simple dude. Stop looking at content trying to reinvent the wheel, you don't even have basic RP down and now you're trying to shove some non canon creator in our faces to debate us with
Testme 1mo ago
Xander is not talking about a woman "settling" for a man at all in the video. He is talking about sexual attraction and desire, and his claim is that women will lose their sexual desire for a man when they lose respect for him, which typically happens (according to him) due to her perception of his moral failings (such as being lustful).
The original definition of the word "hypergamy" was socio-economic and referred to the behavior of Indian women in how they married within the Hindu caste system. That is the context in which the word was invented, and in fact it was a translation of an Indian word.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
Look dude. Xander is fucking up your understanding (and every other RP guy who watches his content) because he's NOT RP
More autism out of your account, pet usual. He didn't overtly say it but he is saying a good amount of the same shit with far different wording. Another reason guys keep getting confused watching his content after being in RP.
"Lose attraction/interested" in a pure alpha and then going for a guy who is more of a less stimulating and genetically viable mate is settling, because she wanted the sex pot with money and now she has to go for the average guy with money. Jesus hell man. Stop being obsessed with literal words just because he didn't literally say "settling" and start thinking big picture.
Here you are AGAIN, taking something he said as some authoritative fact when he is not canon and not endorsed here, and then debating us with it. He is not RP, stop using him as a fact source here. This is bordering on an actual mod warning because it is so anti-RP as to be considered being off topic in our forum
How dense are you dude???? I don't care what the linguistic origin of the word is in the modern era when it was made. The concept stretches back thousands of years evolutionarily. No one gives a shit how recent the word is, the concept is in women's DNA.
No wonder you are so fucking confused all the time how to deal with women, you are obsessed to the sky's limits with these nuanced little technicalities that don't extend past the page they are printed on. You have no capacity for big-picture thought or reading between the lines. No wonder. I can completely see these women you post about noticing that about you too and it rubbing them wrong as a man who "doesn't get it" in your interactions with them.
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
So you are saying that women lose respect for their men if / when they see his 'moral failings, such as being lustful'
WTF did I just read. Its like the sort of nonsense the Pope might say.
Testme 1mo ago
I did not say that. Xander did.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
But YOU'RE the one consuming his content and blabbing it back as fact here. Don't shift this to Xander when you're the one spoon-feeding it
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
BEHOLD THE MIGHTY XANDER HAS SPOKEN!
SILENCE weaklings, the Prophet (may he live eternally) has spoken. Bow down your lowly heads and behold the majesty of the God in Flesh of CASEY XANDER!
pofkaf 1mo ago
SMV is a measurement of a person's attractiveness. For males, SMV often includes social status as well as physical attributes.
Hypergamy is the concept that women always seek out a higher-SMV male to satisfy their evolutionary goals.
These two words are not interchangeable. One utilizes the other.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
Most YouTubers aren't worth 2 shits. From what little I've seen of this one, he does what most of them do: rip off shit that Rollo Tommasi and/or Roissy/Heartiste and/or Roosh wrote over 10 years ago, but get chunks of it wrong.
The only YouTubers worth bothering with who come to mind right away are Rollo Tommasi, Rian Stone, and Aaron Clarey. Of those three, Rian would do you the most good.
Really, though, stick to reading. Read the sidebars at the various manosphere subreddits. Read any archived blog posts you can find from Roosh, Roissy/Heartiste, Rollo, and Dalrock.
Most of YouTube is a waste of time.
His understanding of hypergamy is lacking.
There are multiple facets to hypergamy depending on what stage a woman is at in her life, as well as where she is on her menstrual cycle (which you can't see), and being on birth control pills or other medications can fuck with this.
The gist of hypergamy is that a woman wants the best (in her perception, not objective reality) man she can get. This can be for genetics (alpha fucks) or long-term provisioning (beta bucks). Ideally, she'll seek both in the same man. Real World, she isn't likely to find that (not to mention, such a man has other options including not to commit to anyone), so she'll seek what she wants from different men at different stages of her life (or even menstrual cycle).
Hypergamy is within the woman.
The man's SMV is what turns her on.
His MMV/RMV is what makes her likely to stick around.
Utter nonsense, best to discard everything you think you know and just start from scratch.
Forget everything you heard from Zander and other retards on YouTube.
Rest the sidebars at TRP, MRP, askTRP, WAATGM, and WATGMA. Go to the Red Archive and read everything from Roosh, Rollo, Roissy/Heartiste, and Dalrock you can find.
Everything I've read from you points to a faulty foundation and a lot of confident ignorance.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1mo ago
False. If she's wearing white booty shorts you can confidently concluded she is not on her period. It's in the sidebar bylaws or something, n00b
mattyanon Admin 1mo ago
Sexually speaking, women are excited by SMV.
Hypergamy means "always wanting the best" - and that applies in multiple dimensions.
What the fuq? Since when does high morals mean anything in the world of women and dating? Being non-lustful/jealous/gluttonous/slothful gets you absolutely nowhere. You can be lustful, jealous, gluttnous and slothful and get laid like a rockstar if you look good.
That claim is rubbish - ask a million high value men who have been cheated on because they are not physically attractive enough for their wives.
That's because women try to give that impression, in order to keep those beta bucks flowing. You never know that a woman will cheat on a guy until she's siting on your dick. If she's sitting on someone else's dick, you can be sure that it's gonna stay a secret.
No-Stress-Cat 1mo ago
Never heard of him.