This is not a brag post or anything
But i'm lucky to be tall & good looking
- I have girls approaching me at the club asking me for my IG or number almost everytime i go out
- can fuck a girl in my backseat within 15 minutes of meeting her from a club/bar, have her tell me im hot af make her squirt etc
- to only get ghosted in the next few days after
- when i approach i can kiss girls within a min sometimes
- Yet, when i text those girls the day after, a good 70% of them will either never reply or flake when you ask for a date
Here is an example of text with girls who approached me, we kissed, fingered her in my car after for the first one
https://i.imgur.com/zHHrEdt.png
https://i.imgur.com/hcqH9p7.png
Like they are all over me that night, and the day after they don't give a shit
So now i just play the number game, and take as many number as possible
But this strategy is not that great, when i do that, lot of girls notice that i'm just a big douchebag player
And it's not related to my SMV or stuff like that, same shit happens to my male friends who approach a lot
Yes i can stop going out and use Tinder, but most girls are average in looks on this app, club girls are far hotter
Should i just cold approach at this point?
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
They're flaky because they have options and no consequences for flaking.
Not really a big mystery.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Also throw in the asd from fucking quickly, lack of rapport, and knowing chads pump and dump them usually and no wonder it's not a mystery additionally.
@lynia you need to offer more than a quick slutty fuck if you want to keep them around
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
true - but it doesn't really matter what you offer, they are not going to settle down until they have sucked ALL the dicks, then once they turn 30, it's 'time to settle down'.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Usually but not ALWAYS
BUT yeah. Sadly the gold ones get locked down fast
Ibanez 1y ago
Because they know you're that guy who just pumps and dumps.
This is why you see hot girls with ugly, beta cucks, specially the young ones. Many idiots around here say that "oooh, a man is more than just looks, muscles and frame" implying that those fucking chumps have a clue about what they are doing.
This is all false.
The reason they are dating/ltr'ing them around is because they know that they will not cheat, since they do not have any options at all. Also, they might just be a literal ATM for her or have a mortgage payment on their own place.
Nonetheless, none of this is important. Red pill incels here will tell you that you need to have so much money and status, just to score some average 6's and 7's, like most guys do around here.
Those girls are usually fucking chad on the side or get pumped on the girls night out. most gen Z women that are in LTRs are open LTR, on her end, whether he knows or not.
So if you want to keep those hoes around for dating or fwbs, you have to be more than just a cock and some nice muscles. You have to be interesting, live a life of social abundance and hobbies, display frame and status through your actions and feed them scraps in regards to possibly fantasizing about a future with you at some point. Sometimes, you have to play hard to get too, in the right context, push and pull, tease the lay to postpone it shortly after, not really when she most wants it.
It is a delicate balance
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Basically what you said
If a woman fucks a Chad and she does not perceive that she has a snowballs chance in hell of taming him for herself she will flake and ghost. Unless she is solely looking for just cock, which happens, but in those cases you are generally just dealing with a damaged beyond repair hoe that has a cock roster of her own unless she has some random hangup about that
Obviously this isn't always black and white but some sense of rapport or social benefit that enriches her life is needed to keep her around
Gilles 1y ago
Why you consider making an elaborate post on this topic? It is difficult for me to figure out when to establish rapport, and I end up being a distant alpha sperg instead
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Perhaps I'm confused from how you write this?
Are you suggesting i write a post about that?
I have considered it before
immeralleine 1y ago
90% whores in clubs already are there in a relationship who want attention. They don't want their partners to know the night after
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 1y ago
You're scoring first night bangs with them, so winning.
I'm reading that you want a relationship though, which is fine but you're approaching that backwards trying to lead with that. It's a mistake I made too as a rookie back in the '80s and wanting a relationship badly, too badly.
Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships.
As the man in the equation, your job is to get to sex. It is the WOMAN'S job to get him to stick around for a relationship. If you make this seem too easy, it gives off a desperation vibe and absolutely dries up pussies.
Forget clubs and bars. Find better places to recruit from a better class of women. If you're still having problems getting past a couple of talks or dates, come back with a new post about how that's going and we'll help you calibrate things.
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
Give us some examples of better places to find better qual girls? How do you know for sure those aren’t bar girls eh?
Ibanez 1y ago
He can't give u examples, because the "find better places for better girls" is a tradcon cope.
Every girl is on instagram/tinder and most of them go to clubs/bars to get cock, not just to dance and feel good. That is what they say if you listen to them lol.
Just because you met her at a library/church/wherever the fuck your tradcon mind happens to fantasize about, does not mean that she does not use tinder, instagram or goes to bars for cock, or that she had a gangbang, MMF threesome 6 months ago.
There are no good girls/high value women. There are only "come to Jesus" whores that will get back to their cock carousel as soon as context permits
financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
Don’t try to date girls from tinder or from bars.
Just fuck. If the vibe is good you’ll get repeat business. Part of good vibe is not being overly thirsty
ObliviousDuck 1y ago
This will seem counterintuitive but, do not escalate past the first kiss if you can't/won't fuck her the same night.
I know what you're thinking: "But, the more I arrouse her the more she'll crave my dick the next day." Wrong! Men think like that, not women.
Doing anything past the first kiss, such as grabbing her ass, boobs, pussy and even kissing for a little too long will trigger ASD as soon as you get out of her field of view. She'll get the shame of having sex with you without the bounding of having sex with you.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
OP = "I keep picking up sluts and I'm amazed that they think and behave like sluts. None of the sluts I pick up in bars seem to want a relationship? What gives?"
is this post part humblebrag? Or are you really a bit slow on the up take? Are you wondering why the girls ghost you the next few days? I'll tell you why - they're not responding to your texts because they're too busy doing what they were doing when you found them a few days ago - having sex with strangers that they found in bars.
I sounds like you are looking for a relationship in the wrong place? A good rule of thumb is that you only find rubbish in the rubbish bin.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
I read both the screen grabs from your txt messages - were they girls that you banged first night?
I think you might be taking their responses too literally. As always, you need to sort of run it through a translator in your head.
I'll attempt to translate:
"I'm a slut, so what I do is go to bars and sleep with strangers. That's what gives me tingles. But now we know each other, so you are no longer a stranger, so you don't give me tingles. Soz about that. I'll be at the bar later, looking for a new stranger, coz that's how I roll. We can get together later, maybe in 9 years, once I am over 30. But rn, I have to focus on "exploring", so that I can be "genuinely authentic".
The other one is saying
"I love going home with strangers that I don't know for exciting sex, BUT I don't identify as a slut. You know what I mean? I spend a lot of effort on maintaining the cognitive dissonance because my behaviours do not match up with my self identity. So... now that you know that I am a slut (because I banged you without knowing you at all) we can't hang out together, because you know that I am a slut, and that conflicts with my self identity. Does that make sense? Ok - take care!"
AsianDude 1y ago
My opinion is that although you are physically attractive, the women at the club probably consider you 'deficient' in some way, relegating you to the one night stand kind of dude.
Perhaps these women consider themselves to be better educated, richer, more cultured etc.? So they would not want their peers to see you as their LTR?
tbh, a club is a bad location to search for a LTR.