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Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.

In response to r/niceguys, this tribe is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.

Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.

But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.

Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.

The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.


Rules of conduct:

  • 1. No shaming men for any reason.

  • 2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate tribe.

Recommended reading:

  • Understanding The Purpose of WhereAreAllTheGoodMen

  • Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards

  • OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone

  • Mate Selection for Modernity: Studies show that the more a woman achieves and the higher her expectations grow, the lesser the pool of eligible mates available to her.

  • r/FemaleDatingStrategy advises women to delay sex with good men but freely give themselves to fuckboys

  • Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society

  • Dalrock - They’re back in your 20s where you left them.

  • Kevin Samuels - You're Average At Best

  • Paul Elam - Where the Good Men Went

  • Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me

  • WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.

  • Michael's Story

  • u/where_muh_good_mens' Story

  • "What Happened to All the Nice Guys?"

  • Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.

  • Feminism has succeeded

  • Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore

  • Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?

  • "I’m 43 and Alone – Can I Find a Good Man?"

  • To The Guy I Left In The Friend Zone For Too Long

  • To The Man Who Will Love Me Next

  • The Truth Behind the Increasing Social and Economic Disparity of Modern Society and Why Good Men Are The First To Leave

  • The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market

  • Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel

  • The Life Story of Carol

  • Memes

  • Complete list of resources here.

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"I have 2 kids. If you aren't ready to be someone FOR THEM, then don't text me".
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PaulWrit 4y ago

Who the fuck posts a sideways photo? Wait hang on a minute. Wahmen have pretty much zero spatial awareness. I didn't realise it went digital.

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Rayzor_debiker 4y ago

When having kids becomes your identity.

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GasMaskGhou1 4y ago

With 2 kids she's been doing a lot more than singing

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Itburns12345 4y ago

No 1st date awkwardness No sweet 1st kiss , no getting to see if we like.each other , 1st sex , getting use to each others lil habits and THEN seeing if someome would want to raise kids with you? Just straight into be a simpfather of 2 or nothing?

Its like wantimg to try out a gym.but being told you must sign a 18 yr contract , stick to their regime and diet plans all before you are allowed in the door to see if ypu even like it there!!!!!!

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Snoo16680 4y ago

So you are in a dating app looking for "friends and maybe something more", while demanding the other party should want to be someone for her kids.

Yeah.

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Beneficial-Shower-42 4y ago

Here, take all my money.....What's your name again?

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KangarooCrapper 4y ago

She must do stand up in addition to pole dancing...she's fucking hilarious..not.

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LordFlakkko 4y ago

If you are under 6 feet or are a beta then you get to be "friends" and pay for Tyrones kids while chad gets the something more part.

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LVL50JustThisGuy 4y ago

Yeah.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one to catch that attempt at "playing low-difficulty to get". XD

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manfrom-nantucket 4y ago

Next thing you know you are on the hook for child support because her crumb crunchers felt like you were their daddy. Avoid like the fucking plague guys.

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Snoo16680 4y ago

I am very much blessed that this is not a thing in Norway.

Funny how DNA is either important, or not important at all how can you think of such things, depending on what gets a man to pick up the bill, right?

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jzdelona 4y ago

Lol crumb crunchers

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PTfan 4y ago

How legally does this work? Seriously. If there no marriage you’re good right

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jzdelona 4y ago

It varies by state law but there's several conditions under which this can occur. If you're on the birth certificate and find out later through DNA it's not yours you still have to pay. If you assume a "paternal role" as a stepdad type figure and her baby daddy is a deadbeat they still want to come after someone when she applies for welfare.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Thanks, I will go there and read,.

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Snoo16680 4y ago

Man and woman create child. Woman pushes man away, and demands child support. Man is heartbroken and wants his kid in life, gradually crumples under the combnied pressures.

Man #2 comes into the kids life, before woman tosses him away. State decides to make man #2 pay CP 'cos man #1 is too broken down to pay much these days.

Woman destroys herself, and the child, in loneliness, poverty and unstability.

The modern family!

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Goldmansachs3030 4y ago

You want to redpill a man, just get him to browse relationship, fds, twoxchromosome, deadbedroom, stepparents, teenagers(yeah, that subs completely awful, seems like toddlers coming in to ask everything logical), mra(this ones important), and like , this sub as well. Then any site in the respective country where they post the judgements that threaten to break a man's back. Mine has one and might be the only one in this bigass country.

After all of this, it's on him. Weird about how people would rather not tell the cheating wife to pay for everything for the child and the money spent on her, they would use their own stupid examples to justify how the man should keep a kid who is not theirs. You do this to a woman and you will hear, "you stole her reproductive rights". You see, a man is not needed for reproduction, so his right better be null and void.

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DoTheSnoopyDance 4y ago

She’s looking for a friend to be daddy and pay for the kids and her. She’s also looking for Chad to be her “daddy”.

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Snoo16680 4y ago

She sees the networks of friends and family that would be real useful now. And wishes she had it. And then goes to the social arena that she has the best luck with, the one that has fulfilled her needs before. She goes to the familiar, that likes her.

Tinder.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

She’s also looking for Chad to be her “daddy”.

Always.

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downvote_to_feed_me 4y ago

And when he cums his glasses fly off and steam comes out of his ears.

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lazy_jones 4y ago

She appears to be looking for a free babysitter.

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[deleted] 4y ago

oh... good one...

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Snoo16680 4y ago

Let me propose something radical. Something disruptive, game changing and innovative. A move order, that would transform her position heavily.

Step1: Cultivate a network of loving friends and family that can help you out. Get your village. This step will be hard for a ton of folks, I recognize that, but give it a shot. Main person of interest here is your partner.

Step2: Have kids.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

This is apparently too radical for some.

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lazy_jones 4y ago

In my experience with women in their 20's children usually happen by accident and are never planned. Might be different in the US... Here in Europe, typically most are aborted, so I have to appreciate the fact that some women are at least willing to (or ignorant enough to) sacrifice some apparent freedom and chances on the dating market in order to keep the children. While I don't really date them, I find single women with kids generally more bearable than 40 year old childless, bitter Karens with 3 abortions under their belt.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

women in their 20's children usually happen by accident

They slipped and fell on those cocks and stimulated them just right to jizz all up in them?!

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Help. I fell on some cocks, over and over again, and I can't get up. Then, I fell pregnant. And it is all the Patriarchy's fault.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

This. There are apps/ forums for meetups and for people who just wanna hangout. Reddit itself has subreddits for every town and city, on which people post about meetups and such. Friends and friendship are important, it’s annoying to see such words used euphemistically for “sugar daddy”. More vexing is the fact that certain inexperienced guys will take her literally, guys who are going through a dry spell or have never been successful with women might agree to be her friend, just for female attention or out of the misshapen view that eventually she’d give them a chance. Of course, she’d be fucking Chad / her ex the whole time.

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Snoo16680 4y ago

Yeah. And some times, you can get friends and network from failed dates, but it is a byproduct.

Who would see the dregs of tinder, the guys not running away from this, and think "those guys are the people I want to spend time with".

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The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

Of course, she’d be fucking Chad / her ex the whole time.

There are a few words (at least) American women use which men simply don't have the same definition for. "Options" is one. Guys don't understand the concept of the "options" lifestyle many women aim for, which is either a boyfriend and x orbiters as backups or a series of orbiters who can be shown attention judiciously, for effect.

A harem.

For all their projecting about men, I don't think it's controversial to say that women set up far more intentionally ambiguous relationships with men to form a harem, a stable of people with which to selectively exploit (which is the right word) for resources when they want. They go by cutesy obscured names like The Backup/Fallback Guy, Mr. Right Now, Safe Dick, etc.

Gotta say, this isn't all women but the basics of this behavior are real common. This is the whole "friend zone" in a nutshell. It's just a woman wanting a harem.

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Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

This is CRAZY true.

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Snoo16680 4y ago

This is the whole "friend zone" in a nutshell

I disagree. The friend zone is real, but is a ton more nuanced then how it is usually treated online*. I think it fundamentally is a case of total laziness, romantic sloth, by women.

"I need to have the correct and perfect tingles at first try. If I don't get them I will sort him as "non-romantic" and never make an effort". They genuinely don't get how a little effort in this department could improve their odds by leagues and leagues.

*"She put me in the friend zone!" No, she just dont wanna fuck unwashed fat nerds with no noticable good traits, but will endure you to keep the friend circle going. Which happens, but is far from all of it.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Harem works as a word. I wrote on here recently that to certain women, unattractive guys are literally the lowest pieces of shit on earth. Not even invisible, but disgusting and contemptible. To these women, when such guys aren’t unclogging their toilet or mowing their grass, they should be tools to help her secure more Chads. That’s where your harem idea comes in, tons of guys to buy her things, lend her money, worship her, be a shoulder to cry on while she prepares herself to get Chad. Everything is about Chad in the end.

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The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

Everything is about Chad in the end.

It really is.

Also, as a side topic I guess, this would have been a few months ago but someone here (I think it was here) mentioned that when "unattractive" guys hit on a woman, frequently women see that as a negative reflection on their own attractiveness. Which is why, the theory goes, that women get so freaked when an "unattractive" guy hits on them.

Any thoughts on that theory? Just interested what your take is.

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

It’s certainly true, and it shows how different guys are. I’ve had unattractive women literally feel me and hit on me, it’s nothing to get sad about..

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ianthegreatest 4y ago

This is spot on, but what they don't tell these girls is how this behavior will affect their smv long term once they knock up insane notch counts and psychological trauma

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The_Choir_Invisible 4y ago

Yeah, I agree. Because the norm has shifted from getting married at a relatively young age (17-23, let's say) to women hesitating starting that process until their 30's (or well beyond), you basically have women who've gotten stuck in what pretty quickly becomes to cock carousel. I have to say, I don't have problems with that lifestyle choice, per se. It's when they do that for 10-15+ years and then think they can reinvent themselves as a worthwhile mate that I call bullshit. And, let's face it, that's what they're doing. If they happen to snag a good fellow, he's now tasked with building a relationship with someone who almost definitionally, hasn't really learned to have a long term relationship.

In another thread a few days ago, I posted "...in many cases, there is a shocking difference between a typical, average man's 'dark past' and a typical, average woman's 'dark past'". The man harem is why. Generally, it is extremely difficult for a guy to arbitrarily sleep with 2-3 different woman in a week on a whim. Not the same for a woman who's go "options". The "options" think they might be making progress with a women but none of them know they're just entertainment or esteem-boosters for that day. And most women go through lengths to make sure they don't find out. Hell, it doesn't even need to involve sex but the hint of it. Free dinner, several times a week. I've written before about a 30-something-going-on-40-something acquaintance of mine who did this purely with men for dinners. There was either some issue with her body or something that made men not want to have sex with her more than once so she didn't usually go there. For the most part, just milked dinners out of them for over a year but not much more than that.

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[deleted] 4y ago

It goes beyond having to learn how to be in a relationship - they can’t be in a long term relationship. At least not a happy one.

Because no matter how wonderful the guy is, she’ll always be comparing him to a composite of the best qualities of all the men she’s been with in the past.

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ianthegreatest 4y ago

That's true, never thought of the composite idea

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ianthegreatest 4y ago

Yeah I mean milking financial gain out of victims does seem unethical at baseline but I guess these guys deserve to get burnt if they're falling for it. Guys usually don't get red pilled without some type of trauma inducing eye-opening experience.

I think the issue for girls in America is that society is literally telling them to delay ltrs and childbirth til later when high value men won't want them but they make their decisions based on short term thinking and hedonism not contemplating what occurs when the CC ends. This both churns a shitton of not suitable for ltr 30 plus year old women out the CC and it also whittles down the number of 18 to 23 year olds who would even consider ltrs because the fomo makes them promiscuous. Why would you settle when you can have all this free shit now and find a beta later. But they are delusional thinking they can attract the same quality guys later in life

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Mundane_Worldliness7 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

You are certainly correct about it taking a trauma. Most guys are cool and raised to give the benefit of the doubt to women. Guys ascribe positive qualities to women, so indeed it does take shit like: A guy who trying to be Mr. Nice Guy, rents a car for a woman, only to have her abscond with it and Chad. Or, lending money to a female friend, help her pay bills only to learn that she used it to make Chad dinner. Or, finding out that their female “friend” actually doesn’t know their name. The early you learn the better, just as the earlier you learn that you cannot appease a bully, the better.

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ianthegreatest 4y ago

Yep it's better to get burnt early and relatively hard to prevent a lifetime of slow resource theft and open the eyes to the matrix.

The sooner you can do that, the sooner you can take the steps to become more Chad like. Women are biologically hardwired to not like average guys, they're built to fuck the best guys and weasel resources from everyone else.

I'm not saying we can all be giga Chad but there needs to be an end game of self improvement to be the best version of ourselves. Out here in the bay area most average guys are so far gone that if you can get a bit of muscle and be not Obese you can pull a good amount of girls with relatively little effort.

I feel like a lot of guys face the trauma and then throw up their hands and let their lives get ruined.

Remember it is good to be kind, never be nice. No one likes nice guys because the niceness generally always has ulterior motives unless you really just a philanthropic billionaire or something like that.

You can be kind without giving up your own finances and putting yourself in bad spots

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I-am-the-lul 4y ago

A woman's SMV will drop to below the Chad threshold as she ages, but what really tanks is her MMV.

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ianthegreatest 4y ago

What's mmv?

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I-am-the-lul 4y ago

MMV (Marriage Market Value)

For a man, any woman with a high MMV will also have at least a medium if not also high SMV, conversely there are plenty of women with a high SMV but have low to nil MMV because they are only good enough for bedroom fun but have red flags that disqualify them from being marriage material.

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thisisntbic 4y ago

SMV - Sexual Market Value

RMV - Relationship Market Value

MMV - Marriage Market Value

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ianthegreatest 4y ago

Man I would think guys on here would avoid marriage altogether

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

It’s when you see the profiles of women who want “friends” but still list their requirements / preferences. Notably the physical ones

Why would someone’s height matter to your friendship for example?

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Snoo16680 4y ago

Can be so, so, many things! The list is never ending!

Could be: imagines her dream prince, the man to sweep her off her feet, the guy she would do anything for*. The angel choir would sing, they would fall for each other, flirt like teenagers, he'd walk through fire for her. After a few weeks of dating, he'll take her on a great trip, and they have their first kiss in the storm just outside a lighthouse, where they suddenly get it, they like each other!

Throw in the plot of her favorite rom-com for brownie points.

Let me just tell ya, the "bargain bin" on Tinder that ignores "I'm just looking for sex".. Well, yeah. Women don't want to see wrecks as the wrecks they are, and spend stupid time on coffee dates with fundamentally broken men.

I have a friend who did kinda this. She did not talk about the "I go on coffee dates with everyone who sends me a msg, and try to get a new network in town" thing, which probably improved her odds.

*Funny how, for the misguided ones, this means the exact wrong think for their gender? Incel "do anything for" = kinky (prolly butt) sex stuff he secretly dreams about. Inspin "do anything for" = marry, get kids, build a life together (perhaps even in good faith). Now what about those groups switch "anything" in their part of the deal?

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

Why would someone’s height matter to your friendship for example?

Hey! Questioning a woman and her motives, or worse, expecting her to make any sense, is misogyny!

HOW DARE YOU!

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Oh I got that from one that I mentioned below.

She was after friends and i caught her in an obvious lie related to that and she lost her shit and started to get snarky and blocked me when i called her out on being rude

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Don't you know, bigger is better.

Woman 1 My BF is 6'

Woman 2 My BF is 6'2"

Woman 3 My BF is 6'4"

According to women, woman 3 wins. What she wins, I don't know?

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

I get this in terms of boyfriends .

I was more pouring scorn on how there are women (admittedly not many but they do exist) who claim to be just looking for friends with requirements like this. It’s not always height admittedly with those ones

But imagine a guy going on tinder and saying he is just looking for friends but they need to have DDs or bigger. He’d rightly have people asking what that has to do with anything

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Naturally - handsome orbiters preferred

But not many guys are going for this deal now. Especially not the high SMV and/or RMV ones

I matched with a girl like this who just wanted to rant about her shitty day, her badly behaved dogs that her ex left her with etc

I caught her in a lie about what she was looking for relationship/hook-up wise

She lost her shit and got all snarky. I got blocked by telling her not to be “fucking rude” just because she was having a bad day and not to take it out on me.

She literally wanted an emotional tampon / punching bag who would not push back at all. Off of tinder

(I’d already told her that every guy she matched with wanted to sleep with her ultimately as well. So at least I got that life pro tip in for her

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Meltingintocouch 4y ago

What is RMV/SMV?

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Relationship market value and sexual market value. For a woman the sexual market value is nearly always higher (often much higher).

Very few realise and understand this

They don’t understand that the level of guy they can get to match on tinder and come and hook up with them is not, in any way, the same as the level of guy who will commit to a relationship with them

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Naturally - handsome orbiters preferred with money.

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polishknightusa 4y ago

About 30 years ago on USENET discussion forum, women were claiming that dinner dates weren't about men buying women food to get at sex. "A gentleman doesn't think that way!" they said. So men on the forum proposed in response that she state unequivocally that she was going to friendzone him from the beginning, no sex, and that would be a "gentleman test." At the time, and this is a long time ago (to people today, this was like Back to the Future going back to the early 1950's!), we thought men would take women literally when they said "I'm not going to have sex with you."

Back then, a woman wouldn't say such a thing on a date but also, first date hookups were a LOT less common and body counts were a lot lower.

Now, the line "No hookups" and "I want to take it slow, wait for sex" are now slut-defense signals sent by women to signal they likely put out.

In the modern era, and this appears to be somewhat deliberate, women send slut signals in the form of virtue signals and 1920-1980 "traditional courtship" behavior is assumed to be a form of quid-pro-quo prostitution.

This creates a puzzle that there are certainly genuine virtuous women out there, but if they're naive they will be mistaken for sluts or pulled into it by the larger culture. What a mess. I think some of this is mitigated by that virtuous women tend to get married by age 23 and STAY married. So basically, there are few naive women left out there after that.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Now, the line "No hookups" and "I want to take it slow, wait for sex" are now slut-defense signals sent by women to signal they likely put out , but for HVM, not Betas.

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polishknightusa 4y ago

I've been off-market for 21 years, but in theory, I'd just go for it because if she's engaged in common slut-denial/shit-tests, one might as well because otherwise one signals he's a beta male chump and even if she puts out later, she's going to disrespect him.

That's the point of shit tests really which is that if the man passes/ignores them, he signals he's "alpha" in her mind. Women lack an objective compass to determine value so they rely upon tests.

Think of it as similar to college diplomas. I know a manager who had a music degree and worked in IT. He didn't seem very technical but the degree validated the degree of the other guy who appointed him. Women love brands: handbags, shoes, iphones, etc.

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PaulWrit 4y ago

Shit test. Is that because wahmens' heads are full of shit?

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polishknightusa 4y ago

Not sure if you're asking a serious question. No, they aren't full of shit but I think they have a mind that cannot differentiate between emotion and logic. If a man gets upset and snaps, he may say "I regret doing that. I was upset." Men can be irrational (we call it "oneitus" or "thinking with the little head" and such, but the key is we actually UNDERSTAND irrational thinking.

Most women don't have that concept. A man will hit the wall with his emotional thinking over and over and eventually come to realize "perhaps I'm acting emotionally" but the woman simply cannot conceive the two are different. A woman friend told me that she thinks men are "disabled" for not being able to think this way. She thinks it's an ADVANTAGE to be driven by emotions.

So women's minds are simply not rational as we know it. That's why they're into tarot cards, horoscopes, and crystals. That's just as logical to them as anything else. Shit tests are their way of getting a "tingle" and feeling like they made a logical leap. Logic is PAINFUL. It involves thinking through and abandoning cherished ideals and adopting unpleasant, but more powerful, thinking. Women simply aren't up for that pain most of the time. I have to spoon feed reason to my wife as if I'm trying to get medicine down.

That being said, where reaction time is critical and in certain situations, women's emotional driven state can be quite an asset. They can be quite disarming and powerful where applicable. But our modern society demands women be given equal access to venues that are contrary to their natural gifts sort of like asking some big, husky guy with a hairy back to enter a beauty contest.

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PaulWrit 4y ago

Yea I've known for a long time that men use logic and women use emotions.

Disabled? Women are the ones that are disabled. They lack logic and critical thinking among other things that makes them basically useless. Sex and birthing your child if you want kids. But other than they what use are they?

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

I’m not sure I fully understand the men’s forum response.

Was the idea that the woman stated unequivocally, up front, that they would be just friends and there would be no sex (because let’s face it, women make that decision pretty quickly) and then the dinner would be split? Or would the gentleman test there be that the woman says it and the dinner goes ahead as normal and he doesn’t change his behaviour

I am bit confused by that story.

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Railstratboy 4y ago

Yes, the point is that if “real gentlemen” didn’t care about the prospect of sex at some point, they would behave the same with respect to a dinner date even knowing explicitly that it was fully off the table.

This experiment has been run many times, and generally speaking, guys don’t have an interest in buying women they don’t know dinner if it’s just to have a friendly chat with no end game. That isn’t how most guys make female friends.

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Ah so I did get the right idea

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Railstratboy 4y ago

Yup

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

If that isn’t a joke then this sub is the the wrong place for such a comment. Word is overused

I just didn’t understand the forum part from 30 years ago

I very much understand the modern day part mentioned

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polishknightusa 4y ago

I mean that back then, pre-red pill, it was a different time. Heck, I've read here that some consider 2004 to be radically different than dating today which makes sense. Say, 1960 was a very different era compared to 1975.

Back then, men would have taken a woman at her literal word that if she was not going to have sex with a man, ever, he'd believe her. Perhaps women who said such a thing back then were engaging in false slut-shaming or shit-tests and men just didn't realize it or it just wasn't said that often. After all, we were still just figuring all this out and didn't have forums such as this.

Back then, you had dial up internet at 3600 characters per second or, in other words, at 80 characters per line, about 2 pages a second of text excluding routing information. It was simply more difficult to find stuff back then, but there were also fewer places to look.

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Ah so you are a troll. Got it. If you weren’t you would, you know, actually justify your claims

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ProfitHour4768 4y ago

Its her hight though? She didnt ask for male friends hight, she just filled out the bio

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

...and he's replying to the guy who asked a question about something he's seen on other profiles.

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ProfitHour4768 4y ago

Its her hight. But I dont know either why it would matter to men looking at her profile

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

He was giving an example of something he's seen on other profiles.

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Ok-Adeptness4906 4y ago

"Performing arts AT singing and dancing" = made three TikTok videos.

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cryptothrow2 4y ago

Quite the looker

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tiernach 4y ago

Here's a picture of me obviously naked. No hookups.

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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

No hookups, only hookins

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mustangfrank 4y ago

videos for onlyfans

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king_of_the_potato_p 4y ago

I'm guessing stripper.

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RedLeg21 4y ago

What sensible guy would see this and be like “yeah, that sounds like a great deal. Sign me up!”

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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4y ago

None.

That's why she's so lonely.

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ruck_my_life 4y ago

Performance Arts at Singing and Dancing

Yeah nah. I know what that's code for.

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asdf333aza 4y ago

Stripper

Sugar baby

Hoes

Gold diggers

And whatnots.

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fantasticfantasy69 4y ago

Ha! ReplicantPhish!

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JohnnySkidmarx 4y ago

21 with two rugrats already, nah I'd pass on that.

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9b807a94cd717be9a7a1 4y ago

Woah, she's got a whole car ? I'm so impressed!!

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Joaquino7997 4y ago

This woman has a lotta nerve.

NO man is obligated to be anyone or anything to her, much less her children - whom are NOT his to begin with!

How about she go find her baby daddies and use that tone on THEM!

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gfgdhj5784yu8 4y ago

After considering the baby sitting expenses you would be expected to pay..... this one has already priced herself out of the market.

I am sure there is some creepy pedos that won't see her kids as a negative.

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Dog0fart 4y ago

615 403 3542

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SCCock 4y ago

She will make some guy very happy!

/sarc

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genogano 4y ago

Two kids at 21. She's going to grow up hating me for sure. Since she is still attractive she is going to run into guys that want to be with her but not take care of her kids. She will most likely bounce from relationship to relationship or focus on herself and swear off dudes until her 30s until "she's not looking for games." anymore.

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rit255 4y ago

I have a car and a job. Lady that's called being responsible something your gold fish brain can't seem to comprehend.

Bet you money she leeches off from her ex

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V_M 4y ago

Here's the puzzle. On one hand, strippers are famous for their wild substance abuse so get $500 in tips last night, snort $499.99 of coke, need to bum a ride home because no money after a nights "work". So having a car and apartment would indicate the kids father(s) are still in the picture to add to the relationship enjoyment.

On the other hand, if she doesn't have a substance abuse problem, aside from being damn near a unicorn in her industry, she's taking home $500 a night and why doesn't she own a house and yacht and have servants raise the kids and so forth.

I wouldn't be brave enough to try and find out, along with other guys most likely, so she's only going to get hit-it-and-forget-it attention from the guys.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

I knew a man who chased topless dancers. They have no self-control. One night, a millionaire old guy came into the club. He gave each girl a $1,000 to party with him. 4-5 girls went out with him. The next morning, all the money was gone from each of them.

Also, I tended bar in a topless club for about 7 weeks. The cars these stripers drive are rolling wrecks because they spend money on nose candy and other drugs, and so are broke all the time even though they can make thousands a week, tax free.

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Old_snowboarder 4y ago

21 years and 2 kids already? I'm not sure I'd be interested in a gal with such a sketchy idea of contraception.

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ItsCold_ItsCold 4y ago

They never mention the “different fathers” part.

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KangarooCrapper 4y ago

Never mention their body count either. It's all disinformation, misdirection and obfuscation with them..

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Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 4y ago

Honestly, are Chads on these apps?

I'd guess that's like Uber Eats for them - a quick and easy meal (albeit not that great) with minimal effort.

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HolyGourdofJerusalem 4y ago

tattoo.

daddy issues.

pass.

(that's before reading that she has two bastard children)

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incarnate1 4y ago

I have my own apartment and have a car.

Possibly government-housing and leasing a car with the child support payments. Imagine if men could list these basic things as achievements and demand women accept their liabilities.

I wish we, as a gender, could collectively stop interacting and enabling this sort of entitled women. Perhaps we are trending towards it, however slowly.

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enochrox 4y ago

Two kids at 21... you're not looking for a potential father, you want a free nanny and meals. bigging up the fact that you have a car and an apartment means these things are newly acquired for you. Probably a one bedroom. Most women who have kids but are single who have their shit together financially don't even mention they have kids because they know what that means for their chances and matches.

Cute face tho, Im sure some chump will waste a few years being frustrated there. Could be overweight with a slim jawline tho, if those arms in the frame are any indication. Not that its a deal breaker but cruising dating apps for a new daddy, you better be bringing your A game.

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MR_COOL_ICE_ 4y ago

“I have an apartment and I have a car”

What, are we supposed to be impressed by this?

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One-Move 4y ago

I can walk, breath and have a pulse

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[deleted] 4y ago

First two sentences: "I want YOU to pay for my kids" like a man is nothing more than a walking welfare check.

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eyedrinkbathwater 4y ago

oooof

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TROLL_ELECTRODE 4y ago

I have my own apartment and car. I like art and music

This reads like some AI pulling random sentences together to form a computer-generated dating profile.

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DianeticDelight 4y ago

Always passive agressive and weird when they mention their kids. It always ends with a ’nice’ smiley, even when the sentence is sass.

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upsidedownbackwards 4y ago

She blew the dam out of her dating reservoir and is now looking at what she has left. And of course she partially blames her children for it. They're going to get a stink face any time they have to think about their children in terms of finding a partner. She knows she DESERVES what she had at the high water mark but cant have it because of kids.

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V_M 4y ago

They know the single mom thing is a huge turnoff to guys so they use the kid as a lure for the guys who "really like kids". Its pretty gross they pimp their kids out as a lure. So yeah they're going to sound weird because they are indeed weirdos.

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jzdelona 4y ago

What's sad is that it's like bait for creeps who really like kids a little too much.

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V_M 4y ago

Yeah that's what I meant.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

If I didn't help make those kids, then I'll always be nobody to them.

Not my kids, not my problem.

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SuperbClick 4y ago

Your comment needs to be enshrined somewhere.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Not my kids, not my problem, not my circus

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Sumpm 4y ago

She's pretty enough to ruin somebody's life, for sure. Don't let it be you.

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

She’s already ruined hers…

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mustangfrank 4y ago

She’s already ruined hers…and her kids.

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Sumpm 4y ago

The amazing part is, she's thinks that, although she wound up at 21 with 2 kids (and possibly a stripper job), she has it in her to find the perfect forever-man, who she meets... on a hook-up app.

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InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Escorts think the same apparently.

The usual high standards - height, looks, money, availability. Even dick size (which is one that i usually thought was more cope by guys than actually on many women’s list but in this case - it was on there).

Oh and despite giving it up to a guy for free some can’t understand why said guy won’t make them their girlfriend. What more could she offer? In this case the guy wanted her to quit escorting and she didn’t want to.

I mean - the fact she doesn’t realise that it is pretty damn impressive that she got to a position where a guy made her that offer is galling enough

(Note: these were some stories I was told that at some point I plan to structure into a post on the sister sub)

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Gundamsafety 4y ago

Finally a women who has her own apartment AND her own car! I can't believe that she has not been taken yet. After all I only have a house, 3 cars, and a motorcycle. I thought I was the only one who could do adult stuff here. She is in a class above the rest, but then again she is only above them because she is higher on the stripper pole then they are.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

I can tell you she has more miles than her car in cock.

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IoSonCalaf 4y ago

They expect praise for doing the bare minimum

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BeholdTheHair 4y ago

No, they just don't understand men don't care about their accomplishments.

Women want a man with a good job, nice car and his own place so they just assume men must care about that stuff too. That's why they list those things as positives in dating profiles. Never even occurs to most of 'em that men might want different things in a partner than women do.

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Fosho907 4y ago

Walmart layaway still thinks it’s top shelf…

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asdf333aza 4y ago

You guys better step-up your game. So you can be a better person for her kid.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

So you can be a better person for her kids

corrected

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[deleted] 4y ago

2 kids at 21.

Very quite likely working in a dead-end job with no future.

All of this sounds like not my problem.

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ArchitectThom 4y ago

Heh... weird. I've never actually seen someone classify stripping as a performing "art".

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Scourmont 4y ago

Takes alot of talent to play on the pole like that.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

She played with at least 2 poles.

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reignoferror00 4y ago

No matter your station in life, you too can become a patron of the arts.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

But the drinks are expensive.

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asdf333aza 4y ago

Glad we all knew that was stripping.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

We don't know that! Maybe she sells papier-maché sculptures on etsy or whatever people are using these days!

Heh.

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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 4y ago

Hey, I just made some art work out of used toilet papers. I wonder if some highbrow, post-modern museum would like to display them.

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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 4y ago

You'll get an NEA grant for sure!

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wanderingNotLost1980 4y ago

Did the project require a donkey for completion?

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Extension-Soil-620 4y ago

21, single mom of 2 and she is a stripper.

You cant make this shit up, what a dumpster fire.

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ProfitHour4768 4y ago

Where does it say she is a stripper?

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HugeQock 4y ago

"performing arts at signing and dancing" would probably be it, i imagine ?

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maruadventurer 4y ago

Does her 'Performing Arts at Singing and Dancing' include the use of a brass pole?

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kingcheezit 4y ago

Single mum of 2 at 21, got the blank expression and the dead eyes of someone who knows their life is fucked from here on out.

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thedukeinc 4y ago

“I have my own apartment and a car” When women state this, it is pure projection…smh Men don’t usually care (as long as she is not a bum and/or in heavy debt). Because she looks for these in a man, she thinks it is what is attractive to men too. Never mind using Snapchat filters like a middle schooler or being a basic b****

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Lameador 4y ago

I want to be the guy who shags their mother

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Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

I want to be the guy who shags HER mother.

Mom can't be over 38 herself.

Dirty deeds. Done dirt cheap n' all.

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MrHistoryLesson 4y ago

Dead ass eyes looking bitch like so many others. Lads you should always pass, never smash.

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reignoferror00 4y ago

Sure I'll be someone for them. I'll be their "uncle" that blows into and out of town for the day once every few years, and then "maybe something better in the future".

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V_M 4y ago

I bit the bullet for my fellow subreddit readers and I saved her pix to desktop and used editor to rotate 90 degrees and do a horizontal flip so I could read the cursive tat she has on her tit.

I almost never drink but maybe two beers last night to stay warm was too much, or I woke up too early today. I swear on a bible I seriously honestly think she has the word Broccoli in cursive tattoo'd on her tit.

Is this just me or does anyone else read it that way? Now I got to admit I haven't used cursive since 4th grade and I'm an older gen-x-er so its been awhile and I'm tired so I might have F-d up.

I ... guess its a red flag if you name one of your kids Broccoli or maybe its her stage stripping name in case she forgets while performing or ...

Broccoli?

(edited to add... let me guess... her other kid is named Cauliflower?)

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maruadventurer 4y ago

I was going to say, would you have preferred Rutabaga be tattooed to her ass? :)

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Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

Sideways Pictures in profiles almost ALWAYS indicate UGLY, or basic bitch trying to be different despite her obvious similarities.

Like turning the picture sideways.

It's the hotgirl version of GLASSES to cover up the crow's feet and hide a "beauty" underneath a "nerdy exterior"

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[deleted] 4y ago

Is "being no one" being someone to her kids? I can do that...

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SwiftStrik3 4y ago

She wants to collect orbiters and use them in a rotation as her needs seek fit.

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Wildhouse83 4y ago

I am ready to keep my money to myself.

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NoFaithInThisSub 4y ago

"DEAL!"

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NickTesla2018 4y ago

Well, we know she likes bareback...

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