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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
Hello unwelcome "guests" from the "MGTOWban" sub.
To address your pseudo-concern that we're "blaming the girl instead of the pedophile":
1) she chased him. That was from her own words.
2) the dude's not a pedophile.
2a) there's no evidence he slept with her before she was 20.
2b) pedophilia by definition is attraction to children who are pre-pubescent, which means "haven't started puberty". A 16-year-old is usually a young woman who has finished puberty.
3) here, our focus is on the woman's bad decisions and the consequences. You have the entire rest of the internet to shit all over men. We don't put up with that here. We give women the equality they've been clamoring for, and hold them responsible for their own decisions.
Anyway, it appears to me that you're attempting to incite another brigade on our sub. That's against reddit's TOS.
What are you idiots still doing around anyway? All the MGTOW subs were banned quite some time ago. It wasn't because of you idiots and your whining, but still, your purpose was fulfilled.
Don't bother answering. I already know that you're just misandrist outrage junkies. Get a fucking life, losers.
asdf333aza 3y ago
Literally her exact words are "SHE chased him" and they didn't have a kid together until 21.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
That subreddit is full of misandrist retards. Their post and comments about this one here just immediately blame the guy and absolve the woman despite the screenshot being her confessing to chasing him until he gave in, and no evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing on his part.
LOL they have another one in which a small formation of Marines are doing a ruck march, and the two female Marines are at the back and their rucksacks are being carried by two male Marines near the front. The comments make it obvious there are no Veterans among the commenters, as they state "obviously the women are in charge".
No.
A) leaders carry their own shit. It's shameful to have someone else carry your load, as it shows that you just can't hack it. That's bad enough when you're a regular Servicemember, but not tolerated in a leader.
B) the person in charge of a moving formation stays at center-left of the leftmost column, not at the back.
EdessaKandros 3y ago
It’s interesting how trauma affects people differently. It’s not normal at all for a 16 year old to chase a 30 year old. My trauma made me extremely selective and careful but other girls like the one in the post will chase after men who are no good for them.
AggressiveLegend 3y ago
Same lol, in fact seeing my mom deal with older men made me want to avoid large age gaps entirely
Ok-Adeptness4906 3y ago
"I was 16 chasing a 30 year old" - and if the affair had come to light, he'd have been labeled a sexual predator and imprisoned.
zansiball 3y ago
The use of emojis in this one is disturbing
reignoferror00 3y ago
For some reason I immediately thought of the laugh of Joaquin Phoenix in "The Joker" movie.
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Frankly, women with a thing for older men skeeve me out.
Hey, we often hear men who like younger women are creepy...I think the shoe on the other foot fits just as poorly.
I couldn't relate to teenagers when I was one. I damn sure don't want anything to do with one now, to say nothing of women younger than, say, 25 or 26. I'm hoping by then they'd have themselves together. Sadly, I've come across women in their 40s who were a complete psychological mess.
So I guess I don't know a good fool-proof age or solution for how to find a sane, quality partner who isn't broken in some way.
xdrunkagainx 3y ago
They're biologically inclined to go straight to the finish line, but confuse it with age. They want a man who can provide for them and their children during their peak fertility so they go after older more established men that already have a career, home, and assets hoping they picked wisely. The biological thought process with younger men their own age is this guy could turn into a loser in 10 years and I'll be stuck with his loser child.
mustangfrank 3y ago
There is none. You take your chances and hope for the best.
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Kinda as I suspected. My working theory is to vet people by way of people I know.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
Vetting is great, but only to an extent. They can always change their minds.
Look up the light switch effect.
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Yeah. That is my biggest turnoff. Flakiness. Met a lot of it.
Snoid_ 3y ago
Took me 40 years to realize that to get to know a woman, you have to know her mother. If the mother has issues/is crazy, even if the woman you're seeing seems ok, there is at the very least some latent damage that won't bubble up until later. But trust me, it's there.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
Strongly second.
My wife hates her late mother, and strove much of her life not to be like her at all.
But like you said, the damage is there, and she hid it well.
Miata_GT 3y ago
This isn't something I've noticed in the comments too often and I've seen it first hand.
Snoid_ 3y ago
My ex-wife's mom was an alcoholic coke-head, but my ex claimed to have never drink/did drugs, although now I suspect that she did at some point. Her mom and dad would get smashed EVERY Friday and Saturday night, get into fist fights, etc. My ex ended up cheating multiple times with total losers, was a cutter but tried to hide it, etc. The damage was done.
My ex-gf had a super controlling, possibly borderline mother, also an alcoholic, but was pretty well off with the money she came into when her husband (ex's father) passed away. She used the trust fund to hold it over ex-gf's head, made her feel guilty for spending a dime from it (even though ex-gf was an equal partner in the trust), etc. She ended up breaking things off all of a sudden with me. She was super insecure and needed a shit-ton of validation, which sucked because she could be a sweetheart most of the time. At least she was smart enough to get her tubes tied and not to perpetuate the cycle of broken people.
Overkillengine 3y ago
To add onto /u/Typo-MAGAshiv 's comment, vetting is not a one and done check the boxes and never look back process so many men trap themselves by assuming it is such.
Vet every day. Have an exit plan. Rest assured if you ever fail to provide what she wants, she has one.
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Personally. I cannot see myself in a long term relationship again. Why eschew hermetitude to be Sisyphus?
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
Sadly “vet constantly” is also the FDS mantra
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
There's a lot of "vetting vs. boundaries" talk in some of the older MRP posts/threads, and too many act like it's all one of the other. You really need both, and neither one is foolproof. Hell, nothing in life is foolproof.
If you find a woman who checks every box, but don't set boundaries, eventually she'll start walking all over you.
If you (God forbid) marry a stripper or "former" prostitute, all the boundaries in the world aren't going to make her a good wife.
And again, you can do both right, and still have her just up and change her mind one day, influenced by our current rotting culture and incentivized by current laws.
Overkillengine 3y ago
Yeah I'm kind of using "vetting" as a catchall term for both. What I mean is a man needs to evaluate a woman every day to determine if it is worth continuing to be in a relationship, and acting accordingly.
Thus why one should always have an exit plan.
Glittering-Meat3088 3y ago
Used to be only strippers and prostitutes. Now it's also camming and OF, even IG with how scandalous some of the pics and vids are.
upsidedownbackwards 3y ago
I feel a little dirty about it but I've found it's best to vet them with alcohol. Wait for a night when they're drinking. Stay totally sober. Encourage a few more drinks than they usually have. See what happens.
That's how I get "tofu people" to show who they really are. Tofu people are the ones that seem to like absolutely everything you do. Same shows, same music, same hobbies. If it's too good to be true it is, they're flavorless and trying to use your sauce. But they always expose themselves when drunk.
Fell a little too hard for a woman 16 months ago. She loved the same shows I did. She took interest in my hobbies and even started helping me out when I mentioned that the perfect partner would want to be around me while I'm working on my projects. She actually read up on solar/off the grid power and helped out! But I just felt something was up.
Luckily I didn't even have to push extra drinks. She got drunk, got upset that I didn't want to get involved in her internet drama. She changed the TV to something she loved and I'm not a huge fan of (Always Sunny. I respect the show it's just not my taste). Then she said how much she hated my music and I was not allowed to play some genres if she had to listen to them.
At least she didn't leave me questioning at all. As I was getting more fed up with her drunk shit she decided that it was a good idea to punch me in the shoulder "until you start paying attention to me".
I'm sure there's white knights that would be all "You're a big guy, she's a small woman. Those punches didn't hurt at all". But fuck them. The person I had a crush on was punching me. That's a huge emotional hit. It could have been a few ear flicks and I would still be this pissed. She was back at her father's house that night. Luckily the drive was short because the guilt she tried to lay on to fix things was real. "But I already gave up my life for you". I had discussed that we'd need to move closer to my area if things were to get serious. Turns out she had already quit her job in preparation. "You're making me move back in with my dad, you know how he treats me..." Yea, like a teenager. Because it turns out you're about as mature as one.
Thank you liquor. Helped me dodge a bullet.
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jzdelona 3y ago
Sadly a woman assaulting a man most often ends with him in jail for aBuSe even if he makes no move to defend himself. If she's psycho enough to hit she's psycho enough to make up fake allegations.
Glittering-Meat3088 3y ago
Don't know what y'all were drinking that night but you should send them a thank you letter.
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Too busy to do it right now but my current idea is if I ever meet someone I click with again I interview a number of exes, friends and family about personality quirks, criminal history etc. And this is an idea. Even typing that out...my pet will always be here. We all know the answer regarding a woman.
InevitableOwl1 Sr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
That seems risky because at least one is likely to tell them what you are doing. And if more than one does …
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Agreed. About the safest idea I can think of though.
MelkorHimself Mod 3y ago
Let me guess: After knowing him for five years he suddenly became a narcissist, abuser, deadbeat, or [insert hackneyed pejorative of choice].
mustangfrank 3y ago
SOP
Overkillengine 3y ago
I knew a 22 year old that cheated on her husband with a 35 year old philanderer with multiple failed marriages and baby mommas and whom was a general drunken sleezebag.
She divorced the hubby, and chased the philander to another state where he made her into a single mom and shipped her back home to her parents once she dropped the Chad-spawn. Anyone with a brain could have told her how this was going to go. But he was a hawt bartender so pattern recognition magically no longer applied until after it didn't go as planned.
Fancuku 3y ago
My life was over before it even started. Tehehehehehe
Fucking children. They never grow up.
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withrowsprings 3y ago
There are no daddy issues. Women who have troubles adjusting to society also have issues with dad's discipline.
LezzGoGetEm 3y ago
I'm not laughing
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SeparatePicture 3y ago
I would have rather not been born than to be raised by a single mom. Unfortunately, I didn't have a choice.
ronoda12 3y ago
Another child’s right to have both parents taken away
mustangfrank 3y ago
BTW who do you think is picking up the tab on this trainwreck?
Old_snowboarder 3y ago
The tab - paid for mainly by white males. I deliberately earn little so I pay no income tax - I don't want to fund this shitshow.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
The government, so it's all free! And if they run out of money, they can just print more!
Do I really need the /s?
Funny_Wolverine_9 3y ago
it's hard working men paying tax dollars to the government who then redistributes the tax dollars to these single moms.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
Yup
Sub-Sero 3y ago
Printing infinite money wouldn't be possible if the cattle wasn't forced to be taxed, at an increasing rate, while inflation steals their disposable income.
If the cattle mass adopted a none government controlled currency that was a none-fiat currency these governments would be relegated to the dustbin overnight due to the severe problems in trying to tax such things. Hence why crypto is banned in China and Russia and many to follow suit.
As the FED chair stated; money is ultimately about the people's trust placed in their currency. Thus so long as the people trust their currency they can do whatever within reason, so long as that trust is not damaged too severely.
LordFlakkko 3y ago
Youre welcome to donate your stimulus back to the government if you feel that strongly
Sub-Sero 3y ago
I was ineligible and received nothing. Paid a shitload in taxes though. Also did not take any PPP loans.
LordFlakkko 3y ago
Refusing free money? How unamerican CEO of you. Crypto will never take off like the dollar because it isnt backed my anything. "But muh dollar isnt". Yes the dollar is. The dollar is backed by the strongest economy and biggest military might in the world. You want to buy into the US capitalism? You must take the dollar. Then there is the whole petro dollar argument as well.
Who owns majority of the bitcoins? Who even created bitcoin? It's a mystery. And bitcoin is down... almost 50% from its high. Doesnt sound like a useful currency
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
On this I agree. However, the strength of the dollar comes at the expense of running trade deficits that have hollowed out the U.S.'s manufacturing and commercial bases. That has and will continue to bite us in the ass with increasing severity.
Bouldershoulders12 3y ago
Is it sarcasm if it’s true
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
?!
It's true that a lot of people think like this, but taxpayers are ultimately footing the bill, and "just print more!" leads to inflation, which costs just about everybody.
Bouldershoulders12 3y ago
No I’m agreeing with you lmfao I’m just saying this is legit how it is not sarcasm
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
Ah. Didn't get that from the original comment, and I have actually conversed with people IRL who actually thought "just print more!" was a legit solution.
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LordFlakkko 3y ago
QE worked in 2008. Inflation was barely above 2% yet da gubberment printed billions and bought billions in bad debt. So where was the inflation?
Wonder_prez 3y ago
You're telling me the hyperinflation we're rushing head first into isnt going to be a problem?!
Traksimuss 3y ago
Of course not, everybody loves to live in Weimar Republic!
LordFlakkko 3y ago
Nope. The equation is MV = PY. So printing money can cause inflation (rising P) but so does the velocity of money. And all that printed money from 2008 where did it go??? You guys all said that there would be hyper inflation yet for more than 10 years inflation was barely above 2% after QE so what gives?
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
The problem is velocity.
Technically quantitative easing doesn't cause inflation because money is neither directly injected into the system nor forced to undergo velocity. Central banks buy assets from financial institutions with the caveat that the transferred money can't be kept or used for investment by the institutions in question; it must be lend out to stimulate demand. But the government can't force banks to choose borrowers indiscriminately. What ends up happening is banks turn risk-averse (depressions tend to make smaller debtors unreliable) and lend mainly to large corporations, who rely on debt leverage and low interest rates to expand or consolidate. Therefore velocity is stunted as the money doesn't trickle into the economy writ large and commercial banks hold onto QE funds in lieu of 'reliable' borrowers.
Additionally, the classical understanding of inflation is fundamentally wrong because it doesn't take into account the existence of credit. Credit is assumed to only shift demand forward since loans are simply one mechanic of accelerating the velocity of the current money supply. But loans create money out of thin air; this has been admitted as such by financial institutions such as the Bank of England.
LordFlakkko 3y ago
Banks cant and wont loan out infinite amounts of money because it itsnt profitable to do so. The reserve ratio is 0% now but banks have many other constraints are fun ratios to meet so creating a bajillion dollars wouldnt work. You can find stories of banks turning deposits away because new cash is unprofitable
The banks can absolutely do what ever* they want with that money. How do you know they are only lending it to other corporations? Im heavily invested into banking stocks (BAC JPM RF and a bit of WFC) and going through their earnings all of their loan portfolio's grew especially in the consumer banking (retail) and mortage grew a lot YoY. Those are average people.
And increases in stock prices are correlated to GDP increases and vise versa. This is because of the wealth effect because people with increasing investment portfolio's tend to spend more money and can take out larger loans. And money that isnt lent out is kept in reserves at the central bank where it earns some money.
CosmicSpiral 3y ago
Nowhere did I say bank loans provided a never-ending source of money expansion or that banks were incentivized to create that scenario. Besides, an infinite money supply would make collateral worthless.
...no. I just specified what they could and couldn't do with QE. That's part of the obligation set up by the government purchasing long-term securities. The stipulations are quite generous though.
I said "mainly". The preference for banks to lend QE reserves to large corporations has been written about quite extensively by economists and reporters.
What you're indirectly seeing in mortgage portfolios is the combination of skyrocketing house prices and displacement of white-collar professionals from urban centers to the suburbs. Even with historically low mortgage rates, average people are not moving to these homes; they can't afford it.
For consumer retail, you have to question whether it reflects benefits for ordinary people whatsoever considering the field's hiring struggles and high turnover rates. High profit margins in consumer retail are from delayed stimulus spending, a temporary trend that will be outstripped by inflation (I expect inflation to last into 2024 minimum).
The unmentioned aspect is that rising GDP is purchased off of federal deficit spending, and the benefit ratio has been decreasing for some time. Plus GDP is rather oddly constructed, making it unreflective of the economy's general state. IMO financial instruments shouldn't be thrown into the same pile as commodities or tangible goods that enable money velocity.
LordFlakkko 3y ago
QE is just open market operations on steroids. The fed just moved a bunch of MBS and other CDO's to their own balance sheet liabilities and gave banks cash. The fed can tell the banks what to do but they can strongly encourage it. The govt also started paying interest on such reserves so that all that money wouldn't end up being circulated but most of that money was never circulated so inflation was engineered to be low. Personally, I think had the fed not did QE we would have entered into a massive deflationary spiral. I looked but I cant find anything that says most QE money went to large corporations. Do you have any links?
Thats the opposite of what I'm saying. I live in Oklahoma City and apartment rent here is outrageous. In my area a 1 bedroom in a decent place is 950 a month. I know several people that are leaving them and buying houses because rates are low and a mortgage is slightly more expensive than renting.
Id argue that a lot of the inflation is caused from people spending their stimulus checks already
Ordinary people are taking out loans and buying more stuff are you saying thats bad? And which field has a high turnover rate? What does inflation have to do with loan growth? Perhaps loan growth wont be super high indefinably but as the fed raises rates those loans will start making more money.
Why is GDP an odd way of measuring an economy? I mean you can use per capita growths wealth per capita and other metrics but GDP is a very good overall indicator of production.
Yes... government spending is part of the GDP equation. The government borrowing money at low rates and spending it ways to get a higher return (GDP increases) is good right? I dont know about the rate of government spending decreasing because the deficit is going up and up and up and bidens BBB plan. I dont see goverment spending going down anytime soon.
And stock prices indirectly influence the velocity of money. People spend more money during bull markets than bear markets. Most people would feel better buying a gold ring if their bitcoin is up 2000% than if their portfolio is down %80.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
The government frequently selects only what it wants as far as the prices of goods when calculating inflation. For example: they almost always leave out gasoline and other energy prices.
LordFlakkko 3y ago
Gas and food prices are in their own category and can easily be included. All the calculations are shown on their website.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
They frequently exclude them, mainly because those are the goods for which price increases (and thus inflation) affect the working class the most. It's very disingenuous, like when tourist areas exclude armed robberies from crime statistics.
...where they pretty much rub it in that they twist the data to suit their agenda.
"You're spending twice as much on beef, bread, eggs, and various produce than you were 3 years ago? Pish-tush! There's no inflation! You must be a conspiracy theorist! Where were you last January? Terrorist!"
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LordFlakkko 3y ago
I could believe that but im going to guess you dont have any proof or compiled any facts for yourself? And 25% of that 8% is from car stuff so it isnt inflation evenly spread across the board.
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thedukeinc 3y ago
No shame?
maruadventurer 3y ago
Something tells me she was the sidechick to this guy. Age disparities this wide that is typical.
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NoonTimeHoopsMVP 3y ago
Sex is sex. Folks in one night stands have nothing in common but lust and desire.
Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
A) 16 is legal in most states.
B) when it comes to sex, how much do most people actually have in common besides mutual lust? My wife's about the only woman I've ever known with much in common with me, and she's older than me!
FirstBornAthlete 3y ago
Ok, your facts are right, so the law isn’t an issue.
Saianna 3y ago
In my highschool time one of my female friends from class was the same. Thankfully at some point a solid, motherly butt slapping (at age 19~) was strong enough of an argument to stop her from trying to became oldchads side dish.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
16 is legal in most states.
For most of human history, 16 year old women married late 20s AT YOUNGEST men, but usually early-mid 30s.
This "you're magically ready at 18 and not one nanosecond earlier" thing is a product of a lot of propaganda pushed during the 20th century.
And of course, for the past 30, 40 years both sexes have been living extended adolescence, where parents, schools, and society at large infantalizes them and stunts their development well into their 20s.
panzer22222 3y ago
Give it a couple of years and her story will be she was the victim of an abusive rapey relationship
KangarooCrapper 3y ago
Yup..Elizabeth Holmes tried that bullshit..Epic fail..
AlextheHun24 3y ago
Hate to be off topic but if it was the 30 year old man going after the 16 year old girl it would be creepy but since she chased him it’s not creepy.