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Starting from 16yrs old up to 40, thats 26-52 girls. Dont believe those bullshit articles how "millenials are getting laid left an right, handing out blowjobs like it's a greeting." It's true only for women and a minority of guys. 26-52 girls is much more than most guys get in a life time, even good looking ones. We're not talking about whether or not it's brag worthy. We're just talking about statistics. Isnt that shocking? 12 months, 52 years, 365 days of trying, but only one girl, if that. It's crazy. I pulled the "top 10%" figure from my ass, but I believe my point was made.

So next time you feel down because you think everybody's getting ass but you, think again. It's an illusion from all the sexualized media and advertisements that spam you on a regular basis. It's a narrative made by guys who exaggerate or lie about their conquests. The reality of the SMP doesnt make for a good story.

Sidenote : Anything below a 6 doesnt count.

Edit: You vs. western man not you vs. social circle. Many of us are detached from other segments of the population.

edit 2: Most of those guys you see at parties, bars and clubs having a good time and talking to women, they arent getting action either. They may have flirted and had a lot of facetime, but that's it.

Highschoolers, college students: most guys you see in big groups with women, they arent getting much action either. They're having fun, they sit next to the women a lot, they talk a lot, but once again, they arent smashing, at least nothing impressive. A few of them do in each group, but most dont.

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Thegreatesttot 8y ago

Anything below a 6 doesn't count

Lmao I loved that side not dude XD Fucking a 5 is like the equivalent of beating a toddler at chess !

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boomboxtomcat 8y ago

This post seems to lean towards making us feel good at getting laid a measly once or twice per year. Those low numbers are not high value in the least. As you said, you made these numbers up. I smell male hamster.

epubliusrex 8y ago

It's all in your mind. It always is. As I said here to someone else, I've known an ugly, bonafide narcissist male who always got good looking women. The mother of his two children easily a 9. In his word, he is an alpha male--entirely made up as he has never had any significant achievements. Yet he does well in the sexual world.

Large numbers of very good looking people are shy. I am shy at times. Women love that. Also, it's. Major myth that hot women are forever being hit on. I mean the real 9-10s. That's because most men fear rejection and so hit on their lesser friends. Being natural and confident and a bit shy is one way to win them. So too is being totally nonchalant and not caring if they duck you or not. See, they always look down on needy males. The male that can take it or leave is what gets them. He stands out. Especially when you tell them you have a 3-6 date rule on sex. I can't tell how many women by the third date ask if it's a hard and fast rule. What it tells them explicitly is that you are not hard up and you have plenty of choice. It's playing hard to get and reversing the role. They eat it up. I assure you of this. They don't know what to make of it because they've never encountered it.

I have never had to make a pass at a woman. And I have never fucked a fatty or anything less than an 8-9. I married two heiresses that were both homecoming queens. Blonde haired, blue eyes beauties. It's all about self and how you see yourself and how you will naturally project that image.

dr_warlock 8y ago

The 9-10's may not have tons of guys hitting on them (outside social media) but the guys they are with are usually bug, strong, and good looking. In addition to their rarity and the aforementioned detail, they hang out at exclusive places most men dont have access to.

epubliusrex 8y ago

Not necessarily. I know a miss Minnesota and runner up Miss USA that married quite a small man. I dated two of her younger sisters at the same time. I am not huge. I am very good looking, 5'10" and cut.

I got news for you guys, you over lift and women assume it's because you have a small dick. It's why it's important to have female friends orbiting. They'll tell you what they think. They'll even help you get laid. One of my best wingman was a woman. She used to tell them I was her adopted brother.

dr_warlock 8y ago

If they're not big and 'alpha', I revert back to the other point: How many dudes do you think have access to the same circles and hangouts as top models?

epubliusrex 8y ago

I don't really know. When I go out, I see a lot of men who are in poor shape. They look dumpy. I don't care if they're in their 20's, 30's, 40's or 50's. They look weak and dumpy. No character in their faces.

I had a friend--6'2, eyes of blue. He was always bitching when we were out that "everybody wants Bobby--and you're not even 6' tall. It all comes down to what's inside of you--who you are. A man or a boy? Men are about the doing of things. Men suffer their slings and arrows and don't cry about it. Women can see it on your face. They can smell it on you. If you're needy--they can smell it. A man is supposed to be hard. He's supposed to look hard. He shouldn't look like a pretty boy. That only works for HS.

You have to have style and an innate sense of manliness. Just lifting weights isn't enough. And, as I've pointed out, you go to far and women universally believe you're compensating for a small dick.

bonsaiisuperstar 8y ago

Just get in a good rock band. I was bagging sometimes 2 girls a day in my band days. You don't have to be muscular or have money. It is all attitude. These days I'm in my 40's, single and happy. I hardly ever even talk to women. They are too stupid to really deal with.

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Good points. Everything looks like everyone is getting laid. You would be surprised that even guys who look very close to te lady next to them are not banging her.

Not to mention internet, where you get the impression everyone are the best in everything and everyone are getting laid left and right.

That having said, I am 29 (looking 21-22), lean and muscular, really pretty hair, healthy, so far I had about 20 women but I am pretty sure I forgot some. Can't remember all the bitches. I wouldn't count myself in 10℅ in anything..but I am satisfied and happy

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OP i respect your stats, and I agree that they are correct. Just recently the German government did a statistical analysis on left wing violence that showed that 9 out 10 millenial left wingers are single, not getting any action (probably why they are so angry and violent). However, the 80/20 rule and being in the top percentile raises this issue of how far can you go into the top? I would say most guys here want to be in the top 20 of the top 20.

I just banged this gorgeous college girl yesterday, she did anal without lube and wanted to get roughed up. Yeah she is an outlier, but exactly this kind of behaviour is what I, as a man, want from women since we here all know that they aren't suited for companionship or relations. Now, as a college guy, I couldn't get that chick, it took me a hardcore wrecking by a Oneitis and a subsequent year of monk mode and TRP to get here.

Now I started out as a relatively high SMV guy so once I got the beta under control I got some action, but I get like 10 different girls per year which lets be honest, is not great. There is definetly a promised land on the other side, where you get unlimited pussy and just general benefits from being Alpha. A buddy of mine is a pilot decent looks decent shape, he can walk into a restaurant and fuck the hottest waitress within 30 minutes and you would never notice how he does it.

The point is, you should not slave for pussy in terms of numbers and make fucking as many girls as possible a goal, but the ability to smash at will with the hottest woman of your choice is definetly something to strive for; to be that guy that can slip her a number, make her cheat, etc.

abbafishhead 8y ago

What about those of us who bang 1-3 new girls per week?

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when you're done with it, good luck finding interest in dating. You'll only be able to pray for some unicorn. In the meantime obv, focus on improving yourself.

source - am completely disgusted with the whole game and dating scene, after overdoing it.

AmericanHistoryAFBB 8y ago

How did you get to that point?

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Jigsus 8y ago

It's not sustainable. You get burned out pretty quickly and after a few years you just don't want to do it anymore

kasper138 8y ago

I'd say it can be sustainable, it just gets old. Sometimes wanting is better than having.

TheBigO420 8y ago

I feel like this doesn't get enough attention here. I had a hot streak a few years ago where I was juggling and switching out a stable of 5-6 girls for about 6 months. It was fun, but that shit gets old after a while.

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Atuli 8y ago

I've been doing these figures for a while now and it has its ups and downs. I think I've developed a genuine sex addiction and basically can't relate to most normal dudes. I sort of just force myself to sit there and make conversation with people I have to work with etc.

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Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

Set yourself a goal of balance, or competition of goals. For every real step towards a career/financial goal you get to go seduce a slurpie. Win/win/win.

mkovic 8y ago

You aren't going to have an easy time without just removing yourself from the environment. You can't expect an addict to surround himself with his fix and be able to fight it.

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

Those were my numbers off and on, for years too. They've slowed way down now (I'm in my 50's) and it's a blessing. I'm now looking for connection and companionship along with sexiness and willingness to be my slutty puppy. Guess I've finally hit the wall..lol.

FuckMichaelMcCoy 8y ago

Based off the OG's on this forum they all swear peak SMV is 40-50. I always took that as the male hamster in denial. How is one more sexually attractive then when they are in their prime at 25 for example?

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

Ah, but there's the rub. Men are not at their prime at 25. Your brain at 25 has just barely finished forming, your body is at it's most youthful prime in that it is finished growing and building it's natural DNA configured structure but it is not really an adult male body. As you'll find out, females like muscularity and a fit male, but they don't really care that much if you're "jacked". Many even like a little "extra" as it shows on a primal level you have enough food. The "amused mastery" attitude is hardly an experienced player yet.

Remember, sexual attraction to a female is very different than to us males. We look for good genes, youth, symmetry, hips/breasts for children, and all that delicious firm flesh just bursting with baby nurturing juices. This is on a primal level and hardly recognized by either sex, but it's happening.

Females look for standing in the social circles they want to be in. They look for good health, good genes for their babies, enough "alpha" to protect them and the babies, and the all important provisioning...as in food, shelter, protection...i.e. these days...money.

Young men at 25 are not in their prime. They are prime physical specimens. That's different.

AmericanHistoryAFBB 8y ago

How have you managed to acquire these figures? Whats your routine?

Atuli 8y ago

I work in hospitality so I'm out a lot, quite often I'll finish work go straight to a bar and pull. Go out on both my nights off as well. Just escalate on the right girl.

AmericanHistoryAFBB 8y ago

Please tell me you're only average looking

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Auvergnat 8y ago

Good stats. What's your niche?

abbafishhead 8y ago

Tinder... Read my Tinder guides on how I racked up 100++ lays with that app alone

Auvergnat 8y ago

Oh yeah found it and remember you now. You're the short asian dude who's slaying because he got ripped, has tight game and frame and play tinder right. I still have your post bookmarked and refer newbs to it when they complain about their ethnicity, short stature or any other physical feature they feel disqualify them completely.

Keep up the good Game contributions! Your awesome lay numbers in spite of your short height should be held as a great illustration of the results of RP theory to whining newbies.

abbafishhead 8y ago

For some reason, even though I'm short, height has never bothered me (race is a different thing). I've definitely laid several 5'10" white and black girls who model. So much of height is just mental.

That said, I wouldn't know how height would factor into LTRs, but I wouldn't care too much; I'm just out to smash. Your mileage may vary.

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WiggyL 8y ago

As a female reading these, I am genuinely baffled. Is your number count really what drives you? Is it all about one-uping other men by saying how many women you've slept with? Do hookers and prostitutes not make you feel dirty or like you aren't good enough to have sex with a women without having to pay for it? I'm am asking out of sincere confusion...either I have been extremely lucky in surrounding myself with men who hold a higher value in finding one woman who fulfills their needs or these men are frighteningly good at hiding their dog tendencies. I guess what I am trying to understand is: for you guys that have been commenting on this post, what is the point (if there is one) where number count isn't your driving force? Is it absurd to think you could find one woman and stop seeking others?

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dr_warlock 8y ago

This is a glaring example of female inability to empathize with the male experience and her sexual strategy at work.

If you are not ugly, even just decent looking, you have near unlimited options with other decent looking guys and above. You could flood yourself with attention if you so desired. You have inherent sexual value just by being female. You do not have burden of performance and the need to initiate and game. You have zero clue how it works, for you, it 'just happens'. Putting on makeup and buying decent clothes, then plop yourself in the middle of a bar, then wait. Or just post a tinder profile woth some suggestive selfies and watch the attractive male attention role in without any effort.

Do hookers and prostitutes not make you feel dirty or like you aren't good enough to have sex with a women without having to pay for it?

Female shaming to optimize long term provisioning prospects. Women have an instinctual desire to encourage and disseminate beta-trait propaganda to maximize providers even if they dont need them. There is no such thing as free sex for man except rape and extreme genetics. Hookers are just being upfront about that.

I have been extremely lucky in surrounding myself with men who hold a higher value in finding one woman who fulfills their needs

More female shaming (indirect). Translation: only men willing to commit and be loyal are "real men". Which is bullshit because the guys who have sex with the most attractive women dont have those characteristics at all.

Number count isnt the driving force, It's about having regular sexual activity that meets your desires. Women have no possible way to understand the male sex drive and how it affects the mind of men on a regular basis. It's an urge like hunger or using the bathroom except it cant be satisfied by finding a toilet or shopping at the grocery store.

WiggyL 8y ago

I wasn't trying to shame men at all, I am just trying to understand. In your mind is there anyway that you could be satisfied with one woman?

dr_warlock 8y ago

Neither gender is designed to be satisfied with one partner. That's why mongamist systems were made in the first place.

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From what I've seen and learned it goes both ways like this... the only time a woman/man will stay committed and loyal to a long term relationship (not a perfect rule by any means) is if they feel they genuinely NEED their partner for them or their children's livelihood/quality of life.

The real question isn't "do you feel you could be satisfied with one woman?" the real question should be, "is society producing a situation which harbors any sort of need for each other beyond basic reproduction?"

You can not understand men all you want, but men aren't the problem. Women that are generated by our society today are simply not worth committing to. You don't possess anything we need beyond a vagina that we couldn't replace with another girl.

The nuclear family is dead, gender roles are dead, and slut culture is creating a bunch of soulless women.

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

No, it's not about one-upping other guys at all - I feel like we're all on the same team and should try to help each other. It's not like I'm better than a guy who's been with 50 girls or worse than a guy who's been with 300.

It's more about the excitement of meeting and having sex with a new girl than it is about the total number. It's the act, the experience, and the process that's the point.

I don't count anyone I've paid as part of my number. Paying for sex doesn't make me feel dirty or not good enough - I know I'm good enough - but it doesn't really count and it's not something I pursue anymore.

It's not all about the count - there have been years I've only added a few new partners because I preferred spending time with the FWBs and partners I already had, for instance. My number count doesn't drive me, I'm driven by wanting great sex, and that includes both the excitement of new partners and building relationships with previous partners. I'm also driven by self-improvement and meeting and attracting new women is important there.

either I have been extremely lucky in surrounding myself with men who hold a higher value in finding one woman who fulfills their needs or these men are frighteningly good at hiding their dog tendencies

Well, I don't agree that it's a "higher value" or that preferring multiple women is a "dog tendency" - it's just a preference. But no one person can fulfill all your needs, and anyone could leave you at anytime. In general, most guys want some mixture of close relationships and new partners.

Is it absurd to think you could find one woman and stop seeking others?

Yes. I'd love to have a life partner but she'd have to understand that meeting and having sex with new women is part of my life and not something I'd want to stop. It would be giving up a big part of my life and something I get a lot of pleasure from, and seeking other women doesn't prevent me from building close relationships with the ones I have.

WiggyL 8y ago

I appreciate your response and perspective on this and I apologize if some of my phrasing sounded rude. I have also had the mindset that one partner for life is simply not realistic, as I don't believe humans are programmed to be monogamous, however I would love to find a man who changes my mind on this. Would you be okay if your life partner also had sex with other men?

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

Yeah, that's fine. I don't like restricting what people do when they're not with me.

I don't believe humans are programmed to be monogamous, however I would love to find a man who changes my mind on this

I thought you said it was a "higher value"?

I just don't see the point of restricting yourself from having sex with new people. Sex with new people is good for you.

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

And why are you "genuinely baffled"?

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This is just flat out wrong, humans absolutely are programmed to be monogamous and it baffles me that so many women make this argument because it makes no logical sense.

Evolutionary speaking, it made a lot more sense for women to stay committed to a man that could provide for her and her offspring while she took care of the children. The part that fucks the monogamy up is the other evolutionary trait: provider backups. Women will seduce men to keep them as backup providers or switch even if they think a man could provide better. This was developed because men used to die a lot more than they do now and women/children still needed to be taken care of.

This is human nature. We are monogamous, but female hypergamy throws a wrench in the whole mix.

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

You're confusing social monogamy with sexual monogamy. Social monogamy refers to a male and female pairing up and having offspring - many animals are socially monogamous, including humans in the short-term.

Sexual monogamy means turning down all other mating opportunities - DNA tests have shown no animals do this normally. It only exists in humans and even then it doesn't work very well.

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who talks like this? "bangs" - no man ever would use the term "bangs" unless you're a kid or you're from Bensonhurst and it's 1980 all over again.. lol

infiniteslinky 8y ago

Today I learned I am in the top 1%

rigbed 8y ago

I see a lot of millennial women alone. Unless they tinder up the wazoo I think most millennial women are LTRed and maybe cheat on the LTR, otherwise their n-count is of course higher than their respective SMV guy but not ridiculosu

kasper138 8y ago

Jeez I've complained about 3 a month before. Perspective is a motherfucker.

awalt_cupcake 8y ago

TIL I am the top 10% before TRP.

Time to slack off and relax.

slurmfactory 8y ago

Feels good smashing lots of attractive women. Im married now tho, RIP one night stands.

ChromeJester 8y ago

Best of luck man, you broke the cardinal rule, never get married haha, I'm sure she's worth it

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blackberryx 8y ago

Im in the mid 60s at 26 but my friend who's also 26 is somewhere in the near 2-3 hundred range. Seriously don't understand how but he's got a new girl every week or two and still lives and fucks his girlfriend on a daily basis. It's crazy cause she knows he's a cheater and has tons of side chicks but doesn't leave him.

ex_addict_bro 8y ago

Sidenote : Anything below a 6 doesnt count

Yes it does. Ugly girls need some good loving too.

spiltnuc 8y ago

Just cause they are a 6 in the face doesn't mean their ass and tits cant be a 10. You win some you lose some. Doesn't matter when you are inside of her in my opinion. Sometimes the hottest girls I've banged are the absolute worst in bed

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dr_warlock 8y ago

Absolutely not. You should lose a point for that.

tubarao312 8y ago

I'm pretty sure he is being sarcastic

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aDrunkenWhaler 8y ago

Fapping is always a better alternative to this.

[deleted] 8y ago

Jesus Christ.

If you would bang that you've got problems.

[deleted] 8y ago

I hope you're trolling and all the guys don't actually think they're doing better than they thought

Thats a NOPE. A zero.

throwaway-aa2 8y ago

bro that's disgusting. If that's a 5 then I'm doing pretty good.

TheRedStoic 8y ago

Nupe that's no 5.

2/3. Only way to be worse would be genetic failure or massive body damage/disfiguring.

ArkAngelEV 8y ago

Read that in obi wan's voice in ANH. THAT'S NO FIVEEEEE, tunr around!

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Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

...and getting bigger every day....wtf?

Koryphae_ 8y ago

This is average US woman really? Wow you guys have it really really bad there...

i_forget_my_userids 8y ago

The average size includes everyone post-wall. This is not the average in my dating pool.

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Hjalmbere 8y ago

I was recently approached about a job opportunity in the US. Thanks for the warning.

[deleted] 8y ago

Don't listen to the dorks. There are tons of women

Disciple_of_Libertas 8y ago

This made me feel better about the girls I've slept with, but also horrified for the US.

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No way I consider that a 5 in the US. She's below that.

Disciple_of_Libertas 8y ago

Given the obesity rate he probably took a total average and then it came up with that picture. So that quite literally is the average haha. On a truly objective 0-10 scale she is maybe a 2 on a good day. Plenty of girls I know are turning into hambeasts with the excessive drinking, a shame really.

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empatheticapathetic 8y ago

That's a 3 bro. No way that's a 5

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Cesare_MA 8y ago

I'd say even 3 is generous. I can't imagine a scenario where I'm drunk enough to touch her without being blacked and incapacitated.

empatheticapathetic 8y ago

I'm sure you could get desperate enough.

I was pretty desperate last Friday (check my FR) but still didn't bother with the last 2 girls who were a 4.

Cesare_MA 8y ago

Ehh I really, really don't like fat girls.

xx69bootyhunter69xx 8y ago

I'm from India, and she's a 7+ to me thanks to all the girls I see roaming around in my area (and probably throughout the country lol), really not kidding. I estimate by your standards, you guys would probably puke looking at the chicks that are currently sitting next to me right now...

empatheticapathetic 8y ago

Bro I'm Indian and no stranger to India. That girl is still a 3

xx69bootyhunter69xx 8y ago

oh wait I was talking about the chick in the edit link. The HB5 is yes hardly a 3

Docbear64 8y ago

...that's a 5? I'm doing better than I thought

Timmytanks40 8y ago

Yeah i guess im basically going out with a Victoria Secret Angel in a few minutes by comparison. Like holy shit is that even on the scale? At some point i started coming to rp for the ego trip. Ive never banged a girl less attractive girl than that.

I need somebody to get me stats on threesomes with 2 girls 1 guy because apparently I should have ascended to Valhalla or Mt. Olympus.

Really though this sub might be preaching game and not overall improvement enough.

willowhawk 8y ago

Shit son, I'm doing great. No seriously tho,shes not rateable. See her the same way a girl sees a nice guy

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willowhawk 8y ago

Not sure if your joking or actually don't get it? A women doesn't see a nice guy as a sexual object. I don't see that zoo exhibition of a woman as sexual object

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letsgetrandy 8y ago

"Average" can be a skewed mathematical construct. Consider that there is no size below a 0, but sizes can go up to seemingly infinity.

One 400-lb Jerry Springer guest can drastically move the average.

dr_warlock 8y ago

No, 75% of America is fat or obese. Fact. Most (american) women are fatties or dolled up 5's. Men then battle for the rest. Competition is fierce, specifically 7+. Most 7+ girls have boyfriends or a horde of dudes surrounding them at all times.

letsgetrandy 8y ago

75% of America is fat or obese. Fact.

That may be true, but that does not account for gender.

Most women are fatties or dolled up 5's.

Depends on where you live. In the suburbs, they may even be averaging below 5. But in cities, I think average women are more attractive.

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This just doesn't account for the 18-25 year old women who are going out that you would actually meet in a good bar or event or club or whatever . It's still pretty decent.

EatmyShorts59 8y ago

NO fucking WAY is that a 5.

Go kill yourself !

MattyAnon Admin 8y ago

I think he's saying 5 = average, and this is the average.

Terrifying

EatmyShorts59 8y ago

not trying to rile up feathers / bad feelings .

But i swear at one point you /u/MattyAnon were endorsed.

How does one get un-endorsed ?

MattyAnon Admin 8y ago

How does one get un-endorsed ?

Fuck knows, not managed it yet.

VigilantRedRooster 8y ago

To be fair, Reddit is sometimes quirky about displaying user flairs, especially when first assigned.

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EatmyShorts59 8y ago

True.

It doesn't show flair on the messages page.

Disregard.

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

Yah, there's that big red TRP ENDORSED thingy just there, to the left of his username..lol.

destraht 8y ago

That is sad because I really feel like a loser during my off years when I only bang 1-2 chicks.

asktrpthrow123 8y ago

Sounds like the 80/20 rule

SlyAM 8y ago

This post makes me feel much better about myself. I am still indeed a virgin and have only had one serious girlfriend throughout my whole high school career, but the fact that girls approach me, talk to me, and enjoy being in my presences gives me the hope that sometime soon I will shoot my little back men into one of these adolescent bitches and from their on out start getting it more than I ever thought I could.

Still, I have lots of improvements to make and a long way to go, but I'm getting there and I know sometime soon I'll finally get my dick wet. Lifting, finding TRP, and learning how to deal with women and how to game them in this modern era we live in has helped me a whole lot so I can't see anything but success coming my way as long as I keep trying and improving!

Good post OP, stay red!

Entropy-7 8y ago

Science supports this. The data is a bit old but things have not changed THAT much.

Two partners in any given year makes you top 20%

One per year from 16 on makes you top 30% into your 30s. The data ends at age 44 where the top 30% have 15+ lovers in their past.

DJGammaRabbit 8y ago

As a fat, unemployed funny guy I'm apparently in the top 5%. Thanks for stroking my ego.

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Always good to see this reminded of the true basis of life. Too easy to get caught up in the bullshit.

rockinhard130 8y ago

Sidenote: Statistics don't give a fuck how hot people are, so your entire post is ok, except for that comment.

MindfulStoic 8y ago

So next time you feel down because you think everybody's getting ass but you, think again. It's an illusion from all the sexualized media and advertisements that spam you on a regular basis. It's a narrative made by guys who exaggerate or lie about their conquests. The reality of the SMP doesnt make for a good story.

This is not what I have experienced in my personal journey throughout the SMP. Maybe it depends on where you live. I live in a trendy area of South Florida. It's a large meat market down here. If you are attractive and have a shred of game you shouldn't have a problem. The bar/club scene is ripe with sluts looking to be taken home. And people absolutely kill it on Tinder.

Bitches are out there fucking...you're naive if you believe otherwise.

watermelonpickle 8y ago

Interesting. I wonder how these numbers would look if done by region, I imagine numbers in a large metro area like NYC, Chicago, etc. are much different than in rural places like Wyoming (where I live) where there just really aren't that many people.

dr_warlock 8y ago

Even in urban areas, most guys aint getting much.

watermelonpickle 8y ago

Right, but what I'm wondering is. In a rural area, where there aren't a lot of options. Does that 1 or 2 per year figure that you used in the title change from top 10% to something else? And how does that compare to the "top 10%" in even relatively close metro area like Denver?

It seems like in a town of a couple thousand, with "close" towns being at least 60 miles away if not 100 miles away in many cases. That the numbers would be very different.

It's just something I was thinking about, you'd run out of options pretty quickly if you brought home a new woman every week out here. I like your post, I'm just thinking about my local area out loud a little bit is all.

trp_angry_dwarf 8y ago

Would LOVE to see the histogram or bell curve shape for that and then have someone explain it to me.

Median numbers being basically double? I don't believe it. Not a statistician, but I thought that it'd be impossible. When two people fuck, doesn't that increase the n count on both sides?

Median is just the fancy word for average right?

GOATmar 8y ago

Banging 1 or 2 girls a week used to be impressive when women were actually difficult to fuck. Nowadays, thanks to hookup culture being promoted consciously and otherwise through everything we consume, it's not impressive anymore.

That's actually average now.

You're TRULY in the top 10% when you can easily and consistently pull off 3sums with new chicks every week.

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

And then there are the .01%-ers...heh heh. If I posted my count I would just get a bunch of downvotes and people calling me a liar. Whatever. Carry on gents. If you make seduction and having an interesting character and life your two main goals, you can easily get into double digits every year for decades. There's only 24 hrs in a day however, so if that's what you are about your financial goals and career goals will likely fall by the wayside.

If I were to give advice to a younger man I would say concentrate on self/fitness/career/travel/financial goals first and you'll end up with plenty of women over the years and end up well set up in the second half of life.

YMMV

dr_warlock 8y ago

People in corporate america aren't getting the lions share of the ass. Excluding the famous, most people who get lots of ass usually conform their life around the hedonistic lifestyle (parties, clubs, drugs, PUA every week). They work at places that dont require a suit and tie and most certainly dont anywhere close to 6 figs (like society would like you to believe).

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

Indeed. I am living proof of that. I'm in my 50's now though, and would happily trade a few of my notches for a pension..heh heh.

iopq 8y ago

I guess I need one this year?

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Aphoc 8y ago

I could have banged 1 girl every week from when I was 19, but I was a loser. I had no self discipline, no self control, no job, no future.

Sure, not everyone of them was a 7+, but that didn't mean that I was in abundance yet still felt hollow.

"Is this all there is to life? Are girls really like this? Why aren't I feelings whole?"

Always remember to frame in such a way, that women are a bi-product. Getting girls doesn't make you a 10% man, being a 10% man gets girls.

zerointegrity 8y ago

I wish I could but my girlfriend has me on lock and there is no way out

mykonos_rm 8y ago

Nice post reminding people of reality. I know guys who go a full year without getting laid- and if they do, chances are she's a sub 6

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anotherent 8y ago

genetic limitations is where i struggle the most

bslizzle 8y ago

It's also arguable that a lot of people's numbers come within a few years. So even though a lot of guys may get more than one lay a year (I really don't know), it's not maintained over a long period of time (8 years max).

[deleted] 8y ago

I average probably 2 girls a week. I thought that was about normal.

TheRedStoic 8y ago

Eh. Maybe.

Most of the men I know who live rather red add/drop a plate a month. That's not at all unreasonable. Some just do ons every week to fortnight.

Maybe top 20%? If you're Social and not fat you can easily bag a new one a month just by asking constantly.

awalt_cupcake 8y ago

He said fatties don't count, but yeah it's not impossible. OP was sending home a message that just by being red aware, we're conquering society of tomorrow

Mon_k 8y ago

Maybe top 20%? If you're Social and not fat you can easily bag a new one a month just by asking constantly.

I see you don't live in the Midwest...

TheRedStoic 8y ago

That's correct. I live in an East coast city, in one of the upper class districts.

I suppose my sample bias was showing. True enough man.

ImHydeRightNow 8y ago

Or the south. Fuck obesity. Like seriously, I'm so sick of fat chicks. I want to go to a third world country just so I don't have to fucking deal with them anymore.

Gigantor13224 8y ago

Ok all this tally shit is stupid. Last I checked having good sex that gets you off is more important than shitty sex with several women. I don't know about you but when I fuck a lady my first thought is not filling out my tally sheet I want to have a good time.

I would rather have awesome sex with 2 women 10 times each than shitty sex with 20 different women. Otherwise what's the point?

dr_warlock 8y ago

I would rather have awesome sex with 2 women 10 times each than shitty sex with 20 different women. Otherwise what's the point?

Same here. It's not the notch count as much as the ability to do so. It's the 'sex-flow', regular sexual activity with women you find attractive. Enough sex to satisfy your desire.

Gigantor13224 8y ago

Exactly! what YOU want! What makes you happy, it's not an objective number it's about what you want.

atticusfinch1973 8y ago

Everyone remember that for all of us here who have had dozens of partners, there are 3 guys who have sex with 3-5 women, marry one and have crappy sex lives for 30 years. They might bang a couple of hookers in the meantime.

Thinking about my male friends and clients I can tell you that out of probably 50 guys I've had more sex than 90% of them just this year alone. I have more sex during some weeks than I did in the last three years of my marriage.

Most of them are married and I hear about their horrible sex lives constantly with their wives. Some of them cheat but again, it's with one partner for a period of time, not multiples.

I have one client who is still a virgin at 35 and seems to be totally uninterested in women.

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

It is astounding, but only if as you say, you are one of the few who consistently seduces new women. I speak from experience. Most wouldn't believe me for a moment if I bragged about count numbers. Those who live a similar life would believe me because they know.

whuttupfoo 8y ago

Damn I don't get how some people can live like that. You really know nothing about the world if your count is less than 5 partners. That's like eating 5 dishes for the rest of your life. Imagine playing the same 5 video games from the NES era until now. No one wins the lottery in 5 tries, you just settled with the losing numbers.

theONE843663 8y ago

I could do the same 5 NES games but not the same 5 bitches lol.

tolerantman 8y ago

Thank you for this! I am tired of seeing men with unrealistic expectations, its not like all dudes are fucking girls like a rockstar, you can't run away from the 20/80 rule, either be at the top or just be like anyone else.

JukeLuke 8y ago

Shit if this is true, than it makes me really happy about my count right now. I have fucked a total of 3 girls in my life but all of them have been in the past 3 months (and id say that 2 out of the 3 have been pretty hot. both in top sororities in my school). Thanks a lot man.

epubliusrex 8y ago

That's all it takes? Geez. I feel so privileged to be me. When I lost my virginity at 15, I was part of just 4% of the population. I had sex with three different girls that year. The next year there were two new ones and a repeat of one from year one.

It isn't that hard, for me anyway. Never has been. I mostly just smile at them and make un-PC snarky comments. Women, being snarky, appreciate snarky-ness.

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RICCIedm 8y ago

Rating a 6 is sometimes tricky.

Let me give you an example : I live in Brazil. I dwell in a nice area and rarely deal with poor people. In Tinder, I just uglies to the left.

But now I've started driving for Uber. NOW I see how many fucking bad looking people there are in the world.

Lesson : the 6/10 in your social group is not really a 6/10. It is probably higher.

mummersfarce_is_done 8y ago

I don't think the x/10 rating system is meant to be evenly distributed. For every 10/10, there are probably dozens of 6/10s. It is a metric for beauty, not competition of beauty. If someone is unbangable, it is a 3/10 or lower, regardless of what the average is.

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They should be reporting z scores.

The_rectumwrecker 8y ago

Unbangable is a 5/10. It's the very definition of being middle of the road.

BestSC86 8y ago

The x/10 is bullshit around here anyway because every fucking girl is a HB8....bhahahahhahahhaahaha

Like most of the Casanova-level game proclaimed in the field reports it is a fabricated fiction. HB8 is safe. People won't ask for details or pictures like they would if the Op claimed that he was ignoring\abusing a HB10 who then chased him around the club begging to be taken home or fucked in the urinals. And on the other hand, if they told the truth about the girl being a sloppy HB3 then who would give a shit that you did that shit.

So every girl on here is always an HB8.

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I don't get how people are so subjective with this x/10 rating. To me, a 10 is one of those IG mega hotties provided they do exist :) A 9 is a flawless face, lifts, lives a good life. 8s might have some minor flaws (skin, nose, not really relevant) but then again, in shape, classy, good energy etc. 7 you start dealing with skinnyfats or skinnies, but still pretty.

It would hurt a bunch of egos if people had to recognize they bang the easy 3s-6s on a good day. I've had sex with ~65 girls at 28yo, I'd be happy if I had the whole list in front of me and the average were above 5.

Lastly, a friend of mine just told me this morning "I only do 8+". He keeps showing me basic girls with average face and bodies. Ok they aren't obese. No that doesnt make a girl an 8.

NihilistMonkey 8y ago

10's don't really exist. 10's are 9's that also have that unique thing going for them that gets you going. And if I had to guess about your friend, I'd say maybe he just doesn't get out too much? It's easy to mistake a 6 for an 8 when all you hang around are 3's and 4's.

ImHydeRightNow 8y ago

Here's my thing, I do not do overweight. Even a little extra weight is an auto 3 for me, but you're ok with a skinnyfat being a 6-7. I'm with you though, if I'm having trouble getting laid I'll bang a 5 just to release the tension. But she's gonna be the proper, healthy weight.

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Yeah well my idea of a skinny fat is probably plain skinny for the US, and same scale when I'm thinking Skinny that's prob Auschwitz mode in here ;)

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

Yeah, a lot of guys seem to be like that, which I find really strange because it doesn't matter much to me, but everyone's got their own preferences though. For me weight can only take a couple points off and it's mostly about facial features, hair, eyes, voice, and I also care a lot more about sexual compatibility than weight. I'm happy as long as I have pussy all the time.

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

Some guys like really skinny girls; other guys like more curves. And preferences in facial features are incredibly variable. I don't find Asian facial features attractive in general; a lot of guys do. Some guys like rounder faces vs. wider vs. narrower. If you showed me 5 faces that met your ideal of perfection, I'd probably think at least a couple of them didn't grab me, and vice versa.

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I'm not talking about fucking my ideal girls. I'd love to, but unless you're a .01% it just doesn't happen. When I'm saying flawless, I'm fully aware that it might mean something different to you. My point is, people fuck plenty of trolls and basic bitches at best, and try to sell them as some 5/6/8+

Niet.

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

Yeah, I'm fully aware that most of my partners would be judged as a really low number - I just don't really care, especially if they're cool people. Pussy is just so good no matter whose it is.

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Scandinavianredpill 8y ago

I agree. I rarely see anyone make out when I am going out, I hear guys talk about it but I just rarely see them pull a girl.. however some times both parties like to be discreet so you can't know for sure. with regards to quality I seem to get a ton of 6es but almost no 7-8-9. (maybe 1 a year). Can't imagine how much social proof, looks, charm and money you would need to have to pull 7-10 consistently. Also pulling that many girls you need to get yourself another hobby in my opinion. it takes some effort every time, even though she might be one initiating.

But what you pull seem to go up exponentially, when I was a bit chubby but still the same person I got 0 action. Now I get more action than I can handle (I know it seems like brag, but my point is just your appearance seems to be almost as huge for girls as for guys when it comes to 1 night stands).

grass_cutter 8y ago

Makeouts are extremely common, but ultimately meaningless.

I can make out with several very hot girls when I go out (okay some nights/ venues, it doesn't happen if it's an off night) ... but most of them have no intention of boning me in the slightest. It's brief meaningless validation, and the girls don't really care.

Scandinavianredpill 8y ago

that's strange, it seems almost all of the times I makeout with a woman she wanna fuck. :-D. but I also never chase women I let them come to me so I only get the ones DTF (mostly).

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with regards to quality I seem to get a ton of 6es but almost no 7-8-9. (maybe 1 a year).

yeah I'm the same

Can't imagine how much social proof, looks, charm and money you would need to have to pull 7-10 consistently.

figured out you need it all because (thanks to dating apps) the really good competition looks down on those 7+ the same way you'd look down on the 5-6 when you need a quick bang. Improve hard, for minimal returns regarding girls, but appreciate the incremental progress.

Scandinavianredpill 8y ago

You are most likely right mate. but to pull 7-10s easily here in Scandinavia easily you need to not only drive a porche. you also need to look amazing and have social proof. You need to be a 1%er I think. 7 on our scale I think however is prolly higher than in the states. American people coming to Sweeden / Norway / Denmark always seem to be impressed by the average looks.

But yeah there will always be a guy with more money, looking better etc. as long as you are in the 5-20% you should be getting something regularly if you want to. Even still I think the amount of work you still have to put into these dull girls makes everything but spontenous 1 night stands not worth it in my book.

ChromeJester 8y ago

Spain too man, we have so many beautiful people that you really have to stand out from the rest. I'll see a dude checking one of my friends out and tell them to go hook up because he's a Chad imo and they'll just say "why, he's no different than the rest." You have to be big, attractive, really well dressed, and somewhat wealthy. You'll rarely see people making out at the club with someone they just met, ever. Also I agree 100% with the difference in scale. I've lived in both the States and Spain for years and the girls in Europe in general are MUCH more attractive. A solid 7.5 is a 9 in the states. Here I get mostly 6-8, and a 9 once a year, in the states I won't let myself go below an 8, but that's cause I know my worth and most women there aren't on my level so when I go back I do what you do and let ONS happen without putting in any work because it's generally not worth it.

dr_warlock 8y ago

Competition is fierce for 7+.

grass_cutter 8y ago

It's actually not linear.

Hitting on girls is the highest at the 6-7-8 level.

Once you get to 9 or 10, guys get intimidated, or have very low confidence, or think they need some kind of 'big show magic trick' - and they rarely get hit on. It's true.

I'm talking like 'hottest girl in the club' - not just a big-titted college girl who gets you sprung.

I can usually easily dance with these girls at clubs (9s, 10s, hottest girls) - just because they're bored and rarely get hit on. No, I don't pull them home, haven't figured that one out yet. But they do bounce on my dick for a while at the club, meh.

BoyWhoreWithASword 8y ago

Best chances of banging 9s (I don't believe in "10s") are girls on vacation, or social circle.

A girl with that much SMV and sexual power isn't likely to be trolling for dick at night IMO. She's more likely to be at the club collecting free drinks, taking pics for social media, then going home and hooking up with the guy she's currently dating or planning her next vacation/party trip with her girlfriends where she can fuck anonymous/mysterious dick and come home and no one knows about it.

I banged a 9 a few month ago who was on vacation. 18 yr old white girl from the east coast. I met her past midnight and fucked her literally hours before her flight back across the country. Total luck to be honest. My neighbor's buddy met her friend at the bar, invited her friend over, she was just along for the ride, 4 guys, 2 girls, she happened to dig me the most, the other guys had weaker game and got too drunk, and I quietly took her upstairs to my place and fucked her. It was basically a combination of luck, circumstances. and literally PERFECT LOGISTICS.

Best chance is to get a chick on vacation or through social circle.

Either that or you're a guy who is an 8 or above in looks. But if that's the case you don't need advice and probably don't need this subreddit.

grass_cutter 8y ago

I'm sad to say I haven't banged many 9s and probably never a 10. Or ... well, it's a subjective scale anyway, right?

I guess the idea is whether a chick looks like a model and everyone wants to bang her, generally.

I'm not hyper-focused on "the models" right now -- frankly if I can get regular sex from an 8ish girl each month I'd be quite satisfied.

That said, my best opportunities came from when I was a prominent actor on stage at my university. God damn that was being a pussy magnet, girls seeing you on stage in a major production (still college-level, but $10k productions, not an improv troupe bullshit thing).

I'd consider myself a 7-7.5 on looks alone. I have many other things going for me in person, including massive balls, but my point is .... I was never the hottest guy in the room. For a guy like me to bang a 9 or a 10, the stars need to align or I need an "angle."

Back in college, the spotlight on stage was my "angle" - almost like being in a regionally famous band, though probably not quite.

... damn I need to find a new "angle" in life, if I can focus on shit other than my career.

BoyWhoreWithASword 8y ago

A 7 in your bed is worth more than a 9 in your head.

If you're consistently banging new attractive women, through luck/numbers you'll bang a 9 (10s don't exist) eventually IMO.

I literally fucked a fat chick like 2 weeks before I banged that 9. Such is life.

Timmytanks40 8y ago

They bounce near your dick but yeah.

grass_cutter 8y ago

Yeah poor choice of words. We don't have sex but they rub their ass on my dick through my jeans, etc. Ultimately not that satisfying.

Some girls have given me handjobs on the dancefloor before, discreetly (attempted). Personally I'm not one for exhibitionism so I'm usually just worried the whole time. Freaks.

abdada 8y ago

Yep, and if you THINK your girl is a 7+ and she's not getting asked for her number a few times a week, she's not a 7+.

chadjugo 8y ago

Holy fuck. This is actually a great metric for determining a 7+.

abdada 8y ago

My plate turned LTR went from a 6 when we met to a 7 thanks to hitting the gym. Now that she squats 2X her bodyweight, it's possible she's a 7.5 based on how many Chads approach her when we're together on the beach.

I also look like her father (seriously) so it's funny to see their faces when she sits on my lap and strokes my beard or body, lol.

dr_warlock 8y ago

Seven means she's pretty without makeup.

abdada 8y ago

Dad and grandpops told me both the same thing: do not love a woman until you've taken her in the ocean or a swimming pool.

My second or third dates always revolve around the beach or a pool. Always. The fancy hotel near my home in Chicagoland gives me $15 passes for their huge indoor pool and hot tub and lets me bring a guest no charge. No reason not to do the pool test with a new possible plate.

dr_warlock 8y ago

Most girls wont even get their hair wet unless they're from a beach area.

And also beware of girls that look decent in jeans. They can cover up a lot on their leg and ass figure defects. I remember what I thought was a 6 throwing herself at me with literally no effort and was recently on a 3 day no fap. The next day she was enthusiastic to bang but arrived in shorts and woah, that wake up call. I said I had a work appointment and left.

Also there's what I call 'wonder ass'. It's the opposite of wonder tits. "How did I not notice this nice ass before?"

abdada 8y ago

Most girls wont even get their hair wet unless they're from a beach area.

That's why the pool/ocean test is so important for me and has been for 20+ years. If she won't go in the pool, she's out. Even long term plates need to be able to mirror me and have fun in water. Period.

And also beware of girls that look decent in jeans.

I wouldn't know because I refuse to allow women with me to wear jeans. Even my own sister or mom can't dress like a dude if they're out with me. I have zero issue telling a girl to go back home and dress like a woman, not a farmer.

Women wear dresses or skirts, farmers wear denim. Make it a point to deny access to you if they're dressing like farmers.

Today it was pushing 80 degrees. Girls don't have time to get fat. Too much competition.

Fuck pool season starts in two weeks.

abdada 8y ago

Yep I finish my bulk in 9 days to get ready for poop season up here.

[deleted] 8y ago

When I was in my early twenties, I was feeling pretty bummed out about my number mainly because of the hollywood effect. It was literally my main concern back then. Not my career, not my personal growth. Now I'm 27 and my n count is over 30 and I can't start to describe how stupid I was for being anxious about it. So to all young guys here, it's not important whether you are the most popular kid in the block and you banged every girl around. Just be redpill aware, educate yourselves and if you aren't a freak, you'll definitely have your day.

empatheticapathetic 8y ago

Seriously I'm 27, never been a blue pill woman chaser but I've had zero women. Any advice for us freaks?

anotherent 8y ago

28 and would love to know how you fixed yourself by 27

[deleted] 8y ago

All I can say is just try to be more cynical towards people. That said I wasn't broken per se. I was just frustrated with the whole game concept. Knowing that there are guys pulling girls left and right was killing me inside and whenever I went out clubbing, I was returning home pretty sad. After I graduated and have a decent steady income my confidence has gotten very high and I found myself getting laid quite often.

[deleted] 8y ago

ah yes, made up stats make everything better. lol who really gives a shit. be happy you get laid and if your not then do whatever you gotta do. personally i dont give a shit since im not a teenybopper whos dick is about to fly off

Fox_Red 8y ago

Banged 3 girls last weekend. Met my quota already, time to watch twitch TV and play league of legends for the rest of the year. Oh yeah fuck this gym membership and fuck all your guys! /s

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lnTheRearWithTheGear 8y ago

Very true, but simply knowing you can is very liberating.

awalt_cupcake 8y ago

THEY WOULDNT BE SO FILTHY IF GIRLS WERENT SO DIRTY

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MarauderFH 8y ago

Lifetime numbers average around ten. So even this value is high. It's shocking for us but go to the dmv and look around at average people.

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grass_cutter 8y ago

Lifetime numbers are misleading though.

I know some put-together dudes that found a hot piece in college and married her. They probably have very low lifetime numbers, especially if they only really got their shit together in college.

mattstanton 8y ago

I read that it averages around 3-4 worldwide.

Yankee_Fever 8y ago

Those are not average people at the dmv lol

whuttupfoo 8y ago

That number may sound high but if you think about it it's not. There are more ugly people than there are good looking people. Ugly people rarely fuck the good looking and vice versa. It's easier for ugly fucks to fuck other ugly fucks because they have a much larger pool to choose from.

awalt_cupcake 8y ago

ugly people fuck a lot, they're breeding

ArkAngelEV 8y ago

Ten total for life?! No that can't be right, I feel like a straight up loser, and was a late bloomer and it's much more than that. So should we all STFU because many starving pakistani dudez die virgins?

Do you know what average numbers are for the western world

MillennialDeadbeat 8y ago

Understand that the VAST MAJORITY of western men do NOT have access to sex unless they're in a relationship.

Think about that.

MOST MEN CANNOT GET LAID FROM COLD APPROACH/NO STRINGS ATTACHED SEX ON A REGULAR BASIS.

Not if she's a lesbian and is the stereotypical man-hating, no self respect type. In my corporate days I did see some of what you described, but mostly they tended to hold it against the "Chad" types and make their lives miserable.

Jealousy is a stinky cologne.

[deleted] 8y ago

That's bullshit. I have literally seen in every job I've been at the disgusting guys don't get hired. The team is like wtf

Then again because they don't care about themselves are usually dressed shitty and don't come across well.

It's rare as fuck to see a disgusting fat slob guy dressed perfectly tailored and nail it in an interview. Because if you cared about a first impression you would care about yourself.

MillennialDeadbeat 8y ago

The scientifically proven 'halo effect' says otherwise

badchad_isglad 8y ago

Do you have links for this? I'm interested.

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[deleted] 8y ago

Yeah. It's a real eye opener to get outside your social bubble and look at the real average man. In the UK one could go to a football match or Asda to see this sort of thing. So many fat, disgusting slobs. If you are reasonably symmetrical, in shape, groom, dress well and lift, you are easily in the top half of all men. Add some game and you'll be turning down women before you know it.

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ozaku7 8y ago

Now consider that the majority of the statistics comes from these fat blobs that fuck each other like some brainless animals without any standards. I don't mind having less sex than they have honestly.

nabosch 8y ago

Its pretty disgusting actually. I work at a major ballpark for side cash in the summer, you don't really notice it at first because it seems to have become the norm but take a second to look around at the people at its pathetic. Of 30 given people that walk past my stand in a given time period probably only around 6 of them could run 1 mile without stopping. The 30 year old fathers who are fat as fuck depriving their sons of everything a father should be, someone to look up to, probably can barely even play catch with them when they want to. Then again half the kids are obese as well, sad.

[deleted] 8y ago

At a muscular 215 with some padding I feel like I should be a 4 (no abs, have to shave my head), but everyone else is so fucked up I'm forced ranked to 7; girls can tell I've got arms and traps

glawkneintehn 8y ago

Yeah bro I've only been lifting hardcore for about 6 months and have at least doubled in physical attractiveness in that time. I was 215 with plenty of padding now I'm 195 with plenty of bulk.

Looking good sure as shit helps, but isn't necessary. Think about a 12year old girl robbing you at gun point... you won't take that seriously at first cuz she doesn't seem to be a badass but what she's doing is badass things.

If you're doing hot guy things and you're not a hot guy.... well you get the idea.

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PissedPajamas 8y ago

Big is good but ripped is better. 12% bf should be your goal

ImHydeRightNow 8y ago

As a lean cut 165 pound guy who has a six pack...I think more girls prefer that big bulky look of strong man, even if it comes with a little extra padding. I guess the grass is always greener on the other side, and I love being able to run sub-7 mile and I like the reaction when I take my shirt off, so I wouldn't trade it, but keep your head up dude. Ladies want a man who can dominate, and at 215 and strong, you'll do the job.

antariusz 8y ago

Currently cutting. In December I was 220 and had just finished a cycle. Currently 197 as of right now. Plan to get to 180 and evaluate from there.

I get more attention now than at 220. Even if my strength is way down, I look much better.

There is a happy medium. Aim for that.

ImHydeRightNow 8y ago

This is the best answer. I'm at 165 now, working to land about 175.

willowhawk 8y ago

I don't belive that statistic. Any source?

asktrpthrow123 8y ago

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm

Notice the percent of guys that have more than 15 in a lifetime. Perfect example of the 80/20 rule.

_ohnoes_ 8y ago

the results seem really low, especially for women...

Stythe 8y ago

Hahaha, yea I saw that too.

MillennialDeadbeat 8y ago

The women are obviously underreporting.

Still it just proves the 80/20 rule. Women are getting fucked in mass amounts by a small percentage of men.

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asktrpthrow123 8y ago

I agree. I'd bet anything that the women from these studies are under-reporting their numbers (even if it was anonymous). The men are probably closer to reality but I'd bet they're over-reporting their numbers.

blackberrydoughnuts 8y ago

The number of sexual partners a woman reported nearly doubled when women thought they were hooked up to a lie detector machine.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3936-fake-lie-detector-reveals-womens-sex-lies/

x0diego0x 8y ago

The rule of three

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BassNet 8y ago

I agree, there's no reason to be angry about it. They have the right to fuck as many guys as they want, just like I have the right to fuck as many girls as I want. Hell if there weren't so many sluts on my campus I wouldn't be getting nearly as much sex.

[deleted] 8y ago

we didnt have sex omg! he just put his dick into me and i rode him like a banshee thatsn ot sex! it only happened once too so whatever.

hobohunter24 8y ago

Your girl-speak is excellent. Applause.

[deleted] 8y ago

Its the sad truth of listening to this babble first hand.

Getting mad at a girl for lying and using trickle truths would be akin to getting mad at your dog for eating the steak you left out on the counter.

Some species can't fight nature.

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RedsideoftheMoon 8y ago

I think most men spend a very small portion of their lives "single and mingling." Especially BP conditioned men, most get into relationships and end up marrying one of their first LTR's. No guy who is hitting up a ton of prospects is losing every single one

no_face 8y ago

At 50+ partners, I would say you are in the top 1%

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Oh go fuck yourself because I'm sure no one else wants to fuck you/.

You can't say that below a 6 doesn't count - you can't say what other people are and are not doing - you can't say who is who isn't fucking.

Total shit post.

zephyrprime 8y ago

Millelials are getting laid less than prior generations actually. Go read the government general social survey if you don't believe me. The reason the recent headline about "sex before dating" came into being is because formal dating is dead for beginning relationships.

Now I hope you all already understand why formal dating is dead for beginning relationships but I'll tell you if you're new or something. Women like to play cat and mouse to determine who is good enough to catch them. If you ask a girl out on a formal date, that's too blatant an expression of interest in the girl and girls practice the old Groucho Marx maxim - "I wouldn't want to be part of any club that would have me as a member". So informal "netflix and chill" is one preferred method of getting anything going with a woman these days.

ChromeJester 8y ago

I took my last LTR hiking for our first real date and made her pasta and went on a picnic for the second. I smashed both times. I think most guys are betas that are boring af and don't do anything with their lives so they can't have a conversation. Like u/takethedive pointed out in another thread it's all about projecting yourself and getting her into the frame you want, if you are moderately interesting and do some cool shit then you have a basis of conversation starters and a million places to go. Also as someone in their early 20s I find that most hotter women like a tradition date with a high value male, they feel validated that I'll actually take them to dinner or go somewhere with them vs awkwardly watching a movie and then hooking up. Of course this is my experience and may be different than others'.

ozaku7 8y ago

I've seen this firsthand myself. Went out with a bunch of guys, one of them tried to make us believe that he once fucked a girl and her sister in one weekend, and 100+ in his lifetime. He was fit, social, all that, so I give him credit for taking care of himself. But then I saw him talk to some Ukrainian chick in the club that looked more like a modest stripper. He started talking to her and she was clearly playing with him. Then he shows our the texts and starts getting a bit excited about all of it. She lived 50 miles away and was asking him to go there, even asking me if I could drive him. I had to tell him that she was just toying around, and he was biting like a hungry fish.

Nothing happened as far as I've understood, yet he told other friends who weren't with us in the club that he made out with her right then and there. And he was overly obsessed with her for a guy that has fucked 100+ plates in 8 years. It's been 6 months and he hasn't fucked a single plate, must have been really tough on him.

It's amazing how a simple n-count of your peers can make you feel good or bad. If you value yourself according to your n-count compared to others, you should reconsider your priorities. I've seen the biggest nerds saying that they have had like 4 plates, yet they get all nervous around a girl that talks to them. Take the n-count of your peers at face-value. No man will tell everyone they are a virgin because you would be noted as a masculine failure, but it doesn't make you any better if you let your self-image get influenced by the n-count of your peers.

ChadThundercockII 8y ago

I can get laid 4 times a month. that's 48 different women a year. How do I do it? Prostitution. I don't really like it but it keeps me sane.

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ChadThundercockII 8y ago

The police worry about getting in trouble with me. Jokes aside, no. Just avoid the seasonal flow of costumers like in holidays and you will be fine.

Sephar 8y ago

I find spinning plates more fun and satisfying; I manage to make a positive difference in many women's lives and make myself happy at the same time.

heisenberg_21 8y ago

I manage to make a positive difference in many women's lives and make myself happy at the same time.

You could say the same thing for escorts too. When you're having sex with an escort you're making a positive impact on her life with the money you're paying. And at the same time, you're making yourself happy. Win-Win.

Sephar 8y ago

You could argue that, but unfortunately the reality of prostitution is that the majority of these girls are being pimped (in the Netherlands, where I live and prostitution is regulated and so more visible to research, it is estimated to be 70% involuntary) and little to none of their earnings actually end up in their own pockets.

GroundhogLiberator 8y ago

Oh no, you won't be able to pair-bond anymore. How will you commit once you find the one?! :(

ChadThundercockII 8y ago

I don't have enough money to fuck Sasha Grey.

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ChadThundercockII 8y ago

Stolen dicks are the worst method bruh. Try limp ones.

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RICCIedm 8y ago

Sure, hire hookers. But don't count them as your numbers...

letsgetrandy 8y ago

Count them as sex partners, but not as ass you pulled.

empatheticapathetic 8y ago

Who gives a shit at the end of the day, this guy certainly doesn't.

RedPillHanSolo 8y ago

Yes and no.

No: who fucking cares? Why you care what other bros count or don't count as their numbers?

Yes: I have a fried who had countless sex with hookers. He's in his early 30s and he's absolutely fucking clueless about women. I don't mean clueless on how to charm them, but rather AWALT and being the man in the relationship.

atifhere 8y ago

Women's love is transactional anyway. Prostitutes are at least honest with you. Women either fuck you for your genes or for your money.

tallwheel 8y ago

And you want to be fucked for the former if you can manage it. Nothing better than sticking your dick in a bitch who really really wants that dick.

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Yeah honestly if you need them to be non-prosto to count, then you're really relying on external female validation. That's so beta.

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empatheticapathetic 8y ago

Who gives a shit at the end of the day, this guy certainly doesn't.

grass_cutter 8y ago

When people count numbers they mean sexual prowess.

Otherwise a girl would be bragging how she fucked 100 dudes in college.

empatheticapathetic 8y ago

That girl does brag about that shit anyway.

voomer53 8y ago

Sure, hire hookers. But don't count them as your numbers...

I count them as 1/2 a notch, cause hey, it took a lot of effort for me to earn that money...

FLFTW16 8y ago

I count them as 1/2 a notch, cause hey, it took a lot of effort for me to earn that money...

A hoe counts as 0.6 notch. This is known as The Three-Fifths Compromise.

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letsgetrandy 8y ago

We have hookers in america too.

Forcetobereckonedwit 8y ago

Yah, they're usually called honey, or sweetie, or my girlfriend (sadly).

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truecrisis 8y ago

No, they are called escorts. And they are in nearly every city.

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ChadThundercockII 8y ago

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Goddamn it! you sir have seen some pussy in your life time. I bet some of those were better than the 44LGs you had.

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ChadThundercockII 8y ago

2200€

Must have been a perfect 10. I can get 110 women for 2200 euros where I live. That's 2 rounds with each one of them.

Would you care to share some tips on how to make the interactions more pleasurable?

Squez360 8y ago

I've been saying that women are shallow. Even the ugly and/or fat chicks get laid more often than the average guy. It's crazy how we can't believe most women are shallow as fuck even though most people acknowledge that there are far more virgin males than virgin females.

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sadbasturd99 8y ago

I spent a lot of time with guys who can get 365 women a year, or 365 women a month if they felt like it. So I know first hand how much ass a hot man can get.

Watching this made me very bitter, angry and jealous of course. How much emotional pain can one endure ? I reached my limit a long long time ago.

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epubliusrex 8y ago

Well, maybe you should talk to someone about your issues. I've known a narcissistic asshole for years whose ugly as shot but always got laid and by some pretty good looking women.

For me, I was lucky. Both parents were beautiful and I have the "gift of gab" and can talk to anyone.

For me to help you, I'd need a pic and some other info--age, income, car, place of abode.

Can't live in mom's basement.

sadbasturd99 8y ago

I have been in therapy for years. Basically they say it is my thoughts that keep me from having a girlfriend. Complete nonsense lol.

I have had friends try to help me and take me out etc but it never worked. You sound like you have a good heart thank you for the offer.

epubliusrex 8y ago

What thoughts are these? Therapists tend to try to feminized men. I told mine to knock it off as it wasn't going anywhere. When she saw pics of some past women, her attitude changed immediately.

sadbasturd99 8y ago

like I don't have what women want. they want something, height, money, cock size, personality, confidence. I don't know what they want but I know I don't have it. I have seen how women react to attractive men and they do not react that way to me.

Also with logic, I have to look at facts, I am 42 and single. That is not because I am attractive to women.

But my latest therapist says those thoughts feel like scientific fact but they are not. And it is those thoughts that keep me from getting a girlfriend.

But again, I ask women out and they say no. I haven't asked a lot of women out lately because I have learned that they don't like me.

Its kind of like saying hey, you don't get any women because you don't go out much. But the reason I don't go out much is because I know I wont be getting any women. Who is right ? Is this a chicken vs. egg ?

epubliusrex 8y ago

I agree with your therapist. It's all in the mind--your mind. I am very attractive. My father and mother were. I am physically gifted--my "size" puts me in the top 5% of males in that area. And, guess what? When I'm not feeling good about me internally, I am not attractive to women. But when I feel good, they fall over themselves for me.

I want you to start where I did. At 13 my mother gave me the book "The Sensuous Male". It's an old book but still available. It teaches you what you really need to know. I have never felt the more recent books by PUAs even come close. This book is the shit. And, after many decades, the woman--yes woman, who wrote it came forward. She is telling what you need to know to get into any woman's pants. For me, it taught me how to be so good in bed that one night is usually enough to lock them in forever.

I am older than you. I married two heiresses of incredible beauty. One birthed my children. I still talk to women I haven't seen in 30 years and I'm still at the heart of everything they live for. This book is the shit. Get this book, now.

sadbasturd99 8y ago

I am very attractive. My father and mother were. I am physically gifted

And you are telling me it's all in my mind ?

I dont have a problem with women once I am in a relationship, its about getting a woman. Once I am in a relationship with them they seem to be very happy. They tell me I am great, but who knows what is pillow talk and what isnt...

blackedoutfast 8y ago

yeah most guys really don't fuck a lot of different girls. the distribution just has a really long tail. a few Chads are out there banging a new girl every single week, but they are not typical at all.

most dudes never have ONS or spin plates. they will go on dates and have female friends and occasionally will get into a LTR and have sex. and i'll bet that if you could get an honest answer, there would be a shocking number of adult virgins.

and it's really not that hard to get your SMV high enough to be in that top percentage of guys. go take a look at your competition. most guys are complete garbage. if you look decent, have good social skills, etc to the point where uou can add a couple of notches every year, just approach a lot more girls if you want to bang more of them.

SudoAptGetMeASammich 8y ago

where's your source for any of this?

Mantido 8y ago

Some people commenting getting a girl per month in this thread.I would just like to ask.Are these girls from your social circle or bars/clubs or did you find them from some internet app or site? To me the first seems kinda difficult but i dont know for sure,so i am curious

sydneybeachbum 8y ago

mate I've been juggling 5-6 plates that rotate every 6 months for about 20 years... my numbers are solid. I was doing this before I even knew what TRP was.. wonder what that makes me?

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dr_warlock 8y ago

I actually think our rating system is off. Most men dont even see true 10's, the rich and powerful hog 'em all for themselves. Our 10's are probably real 8's.

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bowie747 8y ago

Agreed. Also the older the male, the more years they are likely to have been married and have less partners.

yummyluckycharms 8y ago

Number seems to be really, really low - and I suspect that is because it takes the whole population of males and averages it out. Yes, this includes the ugglies, but it also includes men serving in the military, men that are in remote locations, and men that are in LTR/marriage situations.

I would be more interested in seeing the average number of lays a man who is single and actively looking for dates. Should be at the very least 1 a month. I hit that ratio, just average looking, and i'm doing it in Toronto, which is doing it on hard mode.

Deplorable_scumbag 8y ago

I could bang alot of uggos, probably to the tune of 10 a year, I wouldn't consider myself at the top of anything.

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rp_southsider 8y ago

Bullshit. I had screwed over 50 women by the time I was 24. Now that I'm in my 40s I've lost count.

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geo_gan 8y ago

i don't get this. so you liked each of these girls enough to screw them then, but you never went back to any of them a second time to do it again? why not? were they all fugly or something? do you just have extremelly low standards? if not then why didn't you just stay with the first 8,9/10?

rp_southsider 8y ago

Sometimes I went back, sometimes it was a one night thing. I never stuck very long with any of them because I was in my 20s, and who wants to settle down with a girl in their 20s? Not me.

cammobus 8y ago

so you liked each of these girls enough to screw them then, but you never went back to any of them a second time to do it again?

some you never get a chance to go back to, or disappear .. Yahoo Personals made the job way to easy 1999 - 2004

Lo-G 8y ago

I'm 20 and my lay count is somewhere in the 40's or upper 30's. About 20 one night stands, the rest I fucked multiple times. The truth is that bitches are boring, they sap your resources and your emotional energy. They push me to alcoholic behaviour and violence. This is why I fuck them, but do not associate with them.

As for the quality of lays: some uggos, some average, and some truly high tier, with my best being an IG model with more than 14k followers.

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Domida 8y ago

I get that this is about self improvement, but your mindset does not sound healthy at all.

geo_gan 8y ago

i guess you would have stayed with the IG model then if you had the chance?

Lo-G 8y ago

No, I still fuck her once in a while. But she's an annoying boring bitch who spends her days on her phone. She doesn't work, she doesn't read, she doesn't know shit, or how to learn shit. Women are useless in many of those areas. Love them for what they are but do not let them poison you.

ChuckersTX 8y ago

I'm mid 40's and I'd put the number somewhere close to 50. I was monogamously married for about 10 years so it averages to around two per year. Most of those were in my twenties but two per year isn't that difficult. I turned down more than I slept with. I wouldn't say I am a PUA but I am in decent shape and I can hold a conversation fairly easily. Anyway, after going around the block a few times you'll quickly find what she looks like has little to do with how much BS she carries with her. There are beautiful women that you can't wait to get them out of your house. "Yes, you're hot. Now GTFO."

epubliusrex 8y ago

I would never lower myself to fuck an ugly woman. I've never had to touch a fatty or anything less than an 8. The only ones I date are 9-10.

The thought of getting naked with a 5-6 or a fatty is scary to me. I don't even know if I actually see them. More like looking through them.

Better to have 3-5 plates that are 8-10 then one night stands with cum dumpsters.

Lo-G 8y ago

You're just virtue signalling. This is beside the point.

epubliusrex 8y ago

I don't think so. Only betas fuck fatties and less than an 8. The ten percent--of which I most definitely am, don't have to.

untitled_redditor 8y ago

Wow... So if I'm scoring with 2-4 new girls a year I'm doing really well. Never would have imagined...

Gawernator 8y ago

Are you sure? I feel like I'm in the top 25%, top 10% just sounds too good.

Sumsar01 8y ago

Average life time partner count is around 11 for males.

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That tells you nothing. To get from "top 50%" to "top 10%", you need to know some measure of dispersion (e.g. variance, standard deviation, absolute deviation, etc.), not just a measure of the center.

Gawernator 8y ago

Exactly... I would think the top 10% are in many dozens, the 1% in hundreds+

grass_cutter 8y ago

When you go to a bar/ club, you're looking at a subset of the population.

Go to Walmart. Then you'll see.

Also, lay count is not exactly an indication of what "%" you are in. I can fuck 100 fatties this year if I wanted to, so what.

Gawernator 8y ago

I agree, but then the criteria we are measuring by isn't very scientific

Auphor_Phaksache 8y ago

I pulled the "top 10%" figure from my ass

I was going to say, bullshit I'm in the top 10%. I know some guys that can get 1-2 different girls a day.

redpillbanana 8y ago

...and I know plenty of guys who married their high school sweetheart or the first woman they ever pulled.

dr_warlock 8y ago

You're comparing your social circle to all of western man. This post is comparing the self to western man.

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Auphor_Phaksache 8y ago

I was comparing celebrities, yes you caught me. I'd say I'm in the 1-2 month range if I really tried. 1-2 a year with no trying at all. All 6+

i_forget_my_userids 8y ago

if I really tried

Lol... So you're saying you're full of shit?

kasper138 8y ago

I could be Tom Brady if I really tried.

FredWeedMax 8y ago

Man 1-2 girls a day seems like they spend way too much time dedicated to get pussy

letsgetrandy 8y ago

As opposed to what... Playing video games? Watching TV? Getting high?

I'd rather bang 1-2 girls a day than almost any other activity.

OreNoDirudo 8y ago

As someone who spent two years dedicated to just cold approach. I've seen the best and the worst.

If you're doing two girls a day you're real good but by that point you probably either have ocd or need a new hobby

FredWeedMax 8y ago

That's what i thought as well, chasing women is definitely not my hobby at all, i understand the need to fuck some pussy but dedicating so much time to it seems detrimental to your overall success

OreNoDirudo 8y ago

I'd say dedicate three nights a week till you get good then just ease up and live life again. That said I do mean getting to at least a couple lays a month as a rate.

It might seem detrimental to overall success when you see guys chasing pussy but trust me if you have everything else going for you and that girl you like friend zones you in favor of a barely literate Chad you may well realise it's pretty important lol. That said I'm sure you'll know when the time is right to put in work with learning game vs just living life and pursuing other goals. If you don't feel strongly about success with women right now then it's probably not time to start going sarging all the time lol

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It should be a supply on demand type of skill.

look_good 8y ago

when it comes down to it, more pussy is the end goal with most things in life. it's a biological imperative

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FredWeedMax 8y ago

Eh i don't know, i'm pretty disinterested, especially when you're talking 1-2 a day, i don't have these needs, not everyday at least

Also i dislike chasing after women, they don't deserve it 99% of the time

look_good 8y ago

sexual desire is carnal, its imprinted in your dna. im not advocating for anyone to be thirsty, its not good strategy. its simple reality

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kasper138 8y ago

The funny part is the more you have the more you get, they smell each other. It's often easier to hit on multiple women together than it is just one.

RICCIedm 8y ago

SOME GUYS

That's what 10% means, bud. 1 in 10.

Dorkan 8y ago

I bet that average amount changes a lot depending on the region you look at. Isn't it way higher in Europe than in North America? We being way less traditional and we don't follow the highschool girlfriend -> marry at your twienties -> kids schema as much.

GrimerPua 8y ago

We being way less traditional and we don't follow the highschool girlfriend -> marry at your twienties -> kids schema as much

Is that what you think we do in Europe?

Dorkan 8y ago

highschool girlfriend -> marry at your twienties -> kids. In North America I meant

GrimerPua 8y ago

Ah, gotcha. Misread the whole thing. In Europe, it also depends on country. But maybe we tend to be more liberal, yeah, at least in western europe. I live in one of the most packed and richest cities in Europe, loads of single people (a lot of em, well above 30). We've been with 15 girls over the last 12 months(roughly one per month), all in the range of 5.5 -> 7.5.

RICCIedm 8y ago

lmao @ this lie. Western Europeans are much less sexual then all americans.

Dorkan 8y ago

not a lie I was just wondering/asking too

geo_gan 8y ago

bollox. when it comes to tourists coming to my country, we say "don't go to that bar, nothing but bloody americans", meaning you have no chance getting those uptight, religious, indoctrinated american girls to do anything, much better to go for the other nationalities like european girls who are much more likely to do stuff and go to other bars in better areas. in tourist trap areas there are loads of american tourists getting fleeced by high drink prices and wondering where all the locals are ha, ha.

grass_cutter 8y ago

This. As an American in Europe about once a year, far less hangups there.

Sex isn't a 'big deal' in Europe. It's a brief bit of fun.

In America, girls will think about the 'implications' and 'what her friends think' or her parents ... for hours ... when you would have already shot your load 3 times with a sensible European girl.

RichieFinn 8y ago

you clearly never fucked a french girl on a beach in spain.

RICCIedm 8y ago

the time of your life huh bud

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am French, live in the US, and from my limited sample (about 50 French girls, 15 Americans) US girls blow Euros out of the water. Real life Brazzers, way more creative, kinky, the ones who exercise aren't into some dumb cardio/yoga weak shit and I like some meat on the bones. I'd only think we're better at kissing.

grass_cutter 8y ago

Bullshit. American guy who's been to Europe several times.

American = puritanical (and hen-pecking feminist at times)

Germany/ France = fucking is pretty much a handshake. Okay not really, but you know.

Then again, we are both experiencing "the foreigner effect" in our respective travels. American girls want to fuck you because you are French. French girls want to fuck me because I'm American (not that we have a smooth reputation but its true).

Hell in Germany, there are coed nudity-required saunas. None of those in America. Hardly any tits on TV in America, except HBO.

America is puritanical. Believe it. In Europe I'm fucking my way through dozens of girls. In America, a 7 thinks she's a model and expects me to treat her like a fucking princess.

A European girl will cook you food in the morning, without asking. An American girl will think you are a chauvinist because you didn't pay for her dinner.

yeah the wall up and damn mise-en-scène when dating is annoying AF. I haven't dealt much with the puritanical/religious girls in here obv, except one who just went MIA like all the others. I was wondering whether she was some LTR material....and AWALT.

Maybe some of the freakiest sex I had in here was mostly because I'm a foreigner and that turns them on more? Which in turns gets me very heated up (French porn sounds awfully cringe). Female sex is very psychological anyway.