Wow, lots of drama lately huh? Reddit admins censorship, links to professors who give work to interns and take all the credit
Why, it's almost like they hate you! Feelsgoodman.jpg
It's a theory I have, where guys secretly love having femenism and SJW as their heel. "They called me toxic masculinity, at least that means I'm masculine!" "they are taking my free speech! The rules are being broken!"
Now, the flared/pointed users aside, this is a post for the 99.7% of others in here. You know the ones. The guys frothing at the mouth over this.
Who the fuck are you again?
I've noticing a venn diagram, one circle of "users who are angry about this publicly" almost completely overlapped with "Users who have never posted so much as a field report", so as I like to call them, consumers. this isn't Gamergate, you're not consumers having a consumer revolt, you're the product, given free reign to post, learn, to swap notes.
And you've completely wasted it, then think of yourself as a bastion of free speech when someone takes away your precious crutch. When the fuck have you used it? 300k members. If every single one of you posted one field report, once a year, this would be overrun with content.
Even if half of those subs are inactive accounts, lurking SJW looking for outrage porn, sock puppets and data miners, thats still enough to dwarf the content posted right now.
Why would you expect reddit admins to take you seriously, you've never taken yourself seriously. There was a weekly self improvement thread, barely any engagement. Very loose posting requirements (have a point, flesh it out, try it first, fail and learn). Now a lot of posts get removed with explanation most aren't. So long as you aren't a retard to the mods, you get as many kicks at the can as required.
So the next time you want to give a comment in here about what "WE" should do, what "WE" need to do and what "WE" could do if ... think to yourself
Who the fuck is we? did you miss the 101 level stuff in the sidebar, no one gives a shit about men, except for what they provide? What, did you think it was different here because we have some edgy posters? Have you started to get laid, once you stopped acting like a delusional co dependant and started to gain a bit of dignity, self respect, and a few pounds of muscle?
I've checked back on TRP.RED. Ex_addict_Bro abd bancroft are the two tippers so far, a handful of blogs and podcasts, and a fuck ton of crickets. Do I see content here about the positive masculinity that everyone treats as sacrosanct? So I see youtube channels, new blogs, Tweets of value?
I just see impotent rage. children mad that dad took their toy away.
This is why I am cynical towards my 300k brothers in here. For the few hundred guys who this doesn't apply to, don't come in here defending what you've done, we already know this isn't about you. this is to the LARPERS who are:
The best of men, except for actual men. What is a beta male? He is the kind of man who anxiously looks for something to identify him as a man, while doing nothing to become a man. For him, there's Guinness
I'll get off my soapbox now. Roosh just got deplatformed, and the RMG want to talk about what to do on that front, then do another reading of my speech on 21 con to give it more polish.
the topic is on self sabotage, or, stepping on your own dick and analyzing the footprint if anyone is interested. Like last time, after I give it, I'll clean up and make a post for the guys who don't like paying money for things.
PS.
If you haven't caught the theme here, it's that you don't get to cry about losing something that you've never used, if you want to consume more rage-bait, head over to Sado forums for some chic nihilism, or one of the many dischord servers available
ZombiNawhal 5y ago
aah fuck i hate getting called out but you're right
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LZIII 5y ago
First off, I respect you Stone. Always been one of my favorite contributors thanks to a knack for writing intelligent pieces while "... resist(ing) giving the impression that you are".
However, the logic escapes me; I'm not posting any FR's or new theories therefore I'm not actively 'using' TRP?
I will humor you and blatantly state that I DO use the content provided here, in my daily strive to become better.
Is my lack off entries into 'our' digital journal taking away my progress? I'm new to my journey, and I have no delusions that my progress as of now, would contribute in any way, or tell a story that hasn't already been told numerous times.
_lifesgood_ 5y ago
Lmao wait are people being entitled to a sub reddit? Lmao this place has hit a new low
PutinVsWittes 5y ago
I don't post because I don't feel like I have anything of value to share. I've gone from a borderline autistic shut in to having a girlfriend and an okay job but I know I have a long way to go yet.
When I feel like I have some insight to provide I'll gladly make a post but much of the content on here is from people like me, they implement some principals have a bit of success and then act like they're some Don Juan.
I don't want to be that guy I want to have real tangible results and a and something worth sharing before I make a post.
Zech4riah 5y ago
Of course the guys who have never used TRP are the most afraid. They have all the non-internalized knowledge to lose.
If you have taken action and internalized everything, you don't mind (on personal level) if the all TRP knowledge vanishes from earth.
Now I think what is the another reason why I care so little (in addition to having internalized things), well it's because most of the ECs seem to be human waste or Mr. KnowItAlls who should not be around producing carbon dioxide emissions. There is only handful of (active) ECs of whom you can see that they are actually experienced when they write something and suprise suprise, these are the guys who are least aggressive/douchy.
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NeverLace 5y ago
What about the users who doesnt cry in outrage? I mostly lurk in TRP because since i found this place at 17 ive learned that on this sub you; lift, read the sidebar and stfu.
Sure, the quarantine sucks but it made me realize that now is more important than ever to internalize everything before it's gone.
OgMagicMatthew 5y ago
After countless failed attempts to make a quality post, I finally came up with a brilliant idea. I wrote up a masterpiece of a post. Looked at the clock, it was 11 at night, far too late to get any recognition. “Eh, I’ll save this to my notes and post tomorrow”. Flash forward 1 month. I’m sifting through my note app looking for my paypal password as I stumble across a note labeled “Reddit post: Get tf off the couch”. I barely remember writing this, but it’s written in my style. The post was absoloutly brilliant, a gem. I make a few edits, and add a proper conclusion. Post to TheRedPill. First commenter is a butthurt anti-lifting phaggot. Ignore the comment. The rest of the comments were positive. One user said something along the lines of “...I was feeling unmotivated but after reading this post, Im encouraged to get back into the gym tomorrow”. I recieved a modest number of likes on the post, it was generally well recieved. It was up for about an hour, then I got hit with a 30 day ban for not addressing the community properly. Bitchwhat.jpeg
Neutral_User_Name 5y ago
Chill out man, some of us are here to learn. When I am ready, I'll post. Is there an official timeline after which we are supposed to post?
And think about this: maybe, just maybe we do not have the same angle as yours on TRP. Maybe, just maybe some of us are taking in all those principles to change our view and understanding of the world, and to reorient our life (not spin plates). As far as I am concerned, TRP has implications in all aspects of MF relationships, far beyond PUArtistry. Had I known that 20 years ago (yes, I'm that old), things would have turned out very differently in various of my life's endeavours.
Finally, do I understand you are not ready to "give" without reciprocity? Yes? If so: go fuck yourself.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Were you one of the guys calling for civil war, or haven't yet put your account onto trip.red?
If not, why did you think this applied to you personally?
Neutral_User_Name 5y ago
a) I don't know what is that civil war you are talking about? Against Reddit admins?
b) No I am not on TRP.red
c) As other commenters have better expressed than myself: you got into a tribalism dichotomy, à la George Bush: either your are with us, or go fuck yourself. That's not how the world works. Everyone's frame of analysis is different: each one of us attributes a various amount of "points" to one of life's aspects or another, which often leads to unexpected results - to you, and that's precisely because your scoring sheet is different.
Maybe I am a full-fledged beta in your opinion, and I could not care less. There is one thing I know tough: TRP has helped me change the points value I attribute to various things in life, and when I compare my pre-TRP situation and state of mind to today's, I am much better off today. I am thankful for that. But please, don't berate people who are not YOU.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
You clearly don't care, I can tell by your engagement.
Something to think about
theguywhopostnot 5y ago
I'm a hardcore religious trp fag. I read more threads than I really should, joined December last year. I've applied a lot of principles but I haven't given anything substantial to the community besides a few members. I'm content growing at my own pace, have digested the whole sidebar and have gone VERY deep into the redpill book list. I was so deeply saddened by the quarantine that I bit both of my pinky nails off (quit since new years). I simply decided not to let it bother me after that and signed up for trp.red. If you do not think about it, it will not bother you. If redpill on reddit dies, I'm ready to get my content elsewhere. Its really not a big deal and have faith in the higher ups to resolve it. I'm happy with my awakening and nothing can turn my wheels backwards. You have to understand, regardless of age, many of us are just man-children trying to become men. Everybody copes differently and in the age of the internet, everyone feels like their opinion should be so important. People hate to lose and love to bitch. Maybe I need to man up and provide for my favorite sub!! sike.. mayb one day, but for now all i really care about is me
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
In it's heyday RoK indirectly introduced me to TRP a few tears back.
As of late a majority of the comments in the articles' comment section were either complaints about how hypergamous these times were without offering any viable solutions or comments that scapegoated Blacks for being the main reason why women are Hypergamous without users having any semblance of accountability for their own circumstances.
Rok became a shadow of what it once was. If it comes back stronger all the better but if returns at it's recent state of mediocrity it's best that the curtain gets called on the site.
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
Well to be fair the Men who have benefited the most from TRP don't or rarely use it much anymore because the message has been received.
Little point commenting on every thread when that time can be spent bodybuilding, meeting chicks, developing a career, developing a hobby, strengthening personal relationships, etc.
So by and large the residuals are kids who don't get the point or SJW fools so miserable with their lives they're willing to spread the unhappiness like a venereal infection.
arythmetic 5y ago
Aye Aye, working on a post now.
KeffirLime 5y ago
Those damn feminists, they're the reason I can't get laid!
Meanwhile in the real world the largest casual sex buffet unfolds everyday.
Classic case of self preservation, it's not me, it's the world.
Instead of changeIng themselves and taking individual responsibility for what they can control, they bitch and moan about society, over which they have no control.
One of those paths requires work, the other requires a keyboard, take a guess which most choose.
warlordchad 5y ago
TL;DR -- I'm not actually new -- I have a new handle because I got DOXed by beta lurkers.
I have to echo OP's sentiments here. I came across TRP randomly and lurked for awhile (about a year), but after I started to see the changes happening in my own life, I started responding on threads and writing some posts.
One post, which some of you may remember, was a field report about the benefits of cold approach. I linked to a blog post--which was my mistake--and some fucker decided to post a photo of me on one of the threads, which given my profession (I work in education--a place rife with white knights and blue-pills) forced me to delete all of my posts, my reddit profile, and start over.
And why? Because dudes got so damn butt-hurt for me telling them a simple truth, which is that cold-approach works better than the dating apps--and I don't just mean for pulling chicks, although that's true too.
No, what cold approach does is make you a better man. Because you have to deal with failure. You learn to hold frame under pressure. You develop better conversational skills and learn to manipulate conversations to your advantage. And after awhile, these qualities become a part of you and then you start to project that confidence and abundance everyone talks about here so crucial to having good relationships with women.
But instead of trying to get better, at least half of the responses to my post were name calling, hating, and other bullshit. If that's you're attitude, why are you here? Indeed, that's probably partially why we're being quarantined--no my post per se--but the fact there's so much negativity and nastiness that sometimes veers into misogyny and other hateful ideas.
In it's purest form, TRP doesn't need to be about anger or hate at all. It's about becoming a better man. About having better relationships with women. About being the sort of dude other men respect and women desire. About living a productive life with purpose rather than an aimless life of confusion.
That's what the reddit admin don't get--and maybe they never will--but part of the reason that isn't clear is that there are too many assholes on here who spend all their time trolling threads and pretending to be alpha instead of actually getting to the gym, reading books, working on the mission, cold approaching, and becoming alpha.
Understand: an alpha male doesn't waste his time telling other people they're full of shit and trolling threads on reddit. A true alpha builds people up, leads, teaches, and helps others. And yes, sometimes that means writing something like what's above to remind people what this shit is really about.
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true alpha may also shit on your idea so it makes you re-assess what the fuck you're talking about, just because you don't like what someone says doesn't mean it's completely wrong, its just some people have anger management problems and clearly men are disagreeable as fuck.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Bro a "true alpha" doesnt necessairly build people up. Thats a BP meme.
Was Ghenghis Khan not a "true alpha" though he probably fucked more women in his life than most pua gurus and had the most children than arguably most mennon Earth. He did not "build people up" he just sought the advantage, won through incredible cunning and brute force. You are exaxtly the type of guy /u/UnleashYourLife is talking about. Get outta here with this feminine bullshit. If you truly understood the red pill, you would know that the redpill does not perscribe a set of actions, it merely inoculates and teaches by ridding the head of fog.
TRP is like martial arts, tools that can be used for good or for evil. Though the smart man will ebgage in both, to gain the advantage.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Tangental. He can do that, or he can be a drug dealer. Those are personal aspirations, and have nothing to do with alpha behaviour.
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they are only alpha behaviour because the guy doing them has alpha behaviours.
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FindTheBus 5y ago
Good. Your work is your work, not a place for you to be cold approaching women.
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Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Who are the faggots downvoting?
littleblacktruck 5y ago
Said it before & I'll say it again: "Even on TRP, the 80/20 rule applies. 80% are posting like they have their shit together and AMOG in the comments. Only 20% are actually practicing it and putting in the work for self improvement. Every post is expected to be about shooting loads in 5 girls a night, and when the 80% doesn't get to live vicariously through OP, you get downvotes. The 80% doesn't give a fuck about the small steps. Crabs in a bucket not actually out there doing the work."
Whisper 5y ago
Indeed.
Really getting TRP isn't about banging a mother and daughter on the same day, or going home from a wedding with 2 bridesmaids, or having 2 LTRs who wear slave collars with your name on them.
Why not? Because if you can do that, you already get it.
The process of getting it is about striking up a conversation with that cute girl at the college bookstore cashregister. That's all. Just do something. Take a little step today.
clavabot 5y ago
All about taking right action, baby stepping it if you have to
toobass 5y ago
It takes a hell of an effort to unfuck your mind from immediate gratification, to realize that it takes time to achieve something, and that it doesn't happen as immediate as one might think, or hope.
sir_wankalot_here 5y ago
The ones who complain the most are the ones who contribute the least. With TRP and MGTOW, there is always your standard post MGTOW/TRP should do ____.
Usually I call them on it, if you want posts etc on a certain topic, write them.
Then when I point out that for both TRP and MGTOW, I have made far more well researched posts then all of them combined, they resort to personal attacks.
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
Another way to look at it is we put iut what we take in. If one absorbs a measure sensiblility and reasonableness these qualities are bound to become manifest in their ways.
If one absorbs delusive, destructive, self afflictive mindsets one is liable to become a feminist, a liberal, an SJW or all three.
We are what we eat both figuratively and literally.
littleblacktruck 5y ago
Stay away from MGTOWs. They are toxic doomsayers who have taken themselves out of the game. Their defeatist attitude is one step above the Incel. Mental illness caught between anger phase and amused mastery. They see the rules of the game and would rather watch from the sidelines and feel sorry for themselves than get on the field and dominate.
Quo210 5y ago
Can't argue they are blackpilled, yes. But honestly, TRP is like a remedy, not all the population exposed to it is going to have the same reaction or the same magnitude of effects. There is a well known anger phase, I don't think It's far fetched to assume some people will take a long time to get over the anger phase.
There are those who progress, those who get completely repulsed from the game and women permanently, and those who see their cuckoldry increased by being exposed to it. The everpresent Gauss bell of results.
Also, some might simply decide it's not worth it. Who gives a fuck anyway? The point is, every man has the right to do whatever he wants with his life. If solitude is happiness to one, let that one be.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Some people would rather listen than talk man. 6'3,did time,house arrest,psych ward,on the way to a bachelors degree in Economics by May,1 course left. I'd post but for some reason the sub won't let me,holla back if u have some advice
BigClitorisDick 5y ago
Heard that. The less you talk the more you know. Everything already upstairs and what the other guy let slip. I'll sit in the back with a low profile and occasionally drop some gems.
bluesnsouls 5y ago
Ive been trying to posts my field reports for about 2 months but it seems like i don’t have enough karma
whatsthisgarg 5y ago
and /u/Thunderbird93 just send a message to the mods after posting and having it auto-mod-removed, they'll approve it; it's that simple
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Thanks bro ur an oasis in the desert. I know of endorsed contributors,who are the mods I can get in touch with?Sorry I'm a noob on reddit.Been lurking for years tho
whatsthisgarg 5y ago
just send a message to the mods; when you put up a post, it gets removed by the auto-mod, there'll be a link to click to send a mod-mail; make it brief but detailed so they can ID your post; if it's good, they'll approve it
I lurked for 2 years before I even made an account, so when I was ready to post, I just explained that, they approved the post and it went up
Thunderbird93 5y ago
dude ur a champion.thanks for being understanding and patient,stay trill my brother
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I hear you bro. Funny thing is that is says the karma requirement is 100,I'm sitting at over double that. Do you know any endorsed contributors who could help out?
darkstout 5y ago
every man here is a broken man. otherwise he would not require "red pill theory." some guys like to pretend their are lone wolf sigma males, or some type of alpha male, but the truth is we are all broken because patriarchy is broken. knowledge should be passed down from father to son, from brother to brother, practiced and acknowledged in real life. but here we are on a nerdy reddit website that caters to material boys are into like video games, memes, and pet photos. this subreddit is being quarantined because this site is for children.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Man isn't broken. Man is setback.
the difference? Temporary situations, not permanent character defects. If you think your lot in life is static, may as well go to the incel route, and talk about looksmax or some shit
guiriri 5y ago
This. The further I've been in the hole, less time on learning here and more by myself.
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
Is it that this site is for children or that they don't want the vast majority matured and grown up in thinking ability?
guiriri 5y ago
Are you limited to this site? The point is that redpill should already be passed irl. What's going on was predictable and was just a matter of time. The reddit crowd changed a lot in the last 5 yrs.
Field_Of_View 5y ago
Honestly, reddit was created in what, 2008? I remember discovering the site just before it was overrun by the digg-exodus hordes and it changed irreparably then and there. When was that? 2009? 2010? SJWism ran rampant from the start (English speaking college demographic) but there was an air of "but let's have free speech though" early on. That pretty much went out of the window before I graduated school in 2011, I remember that much for sure. Wrong-think was already implicitely censored long before 2013 (your 5 year window) on all of the bigger subs. The downvote system is the fundamental design flaw. Democracy doesn't scale well. Reddit is just one more proof for this. Lowest common denominator bullshit being boosted to the top and unpopular opinions being censored by consensus probably made the site as popular as it is, but this system is also why reddit never had a chance to be truly good.
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ex_addict_bro 5y ago
Stopped reading at “we”
This post won’t have any effect on the intended demographics precisely because of the reasons you wrote it. This means it was wasted time... unless you have a mission, like monetizing your blog or such.
The_Titleist 5y ago
I know I haven't been as active around here the past few years as I have been in the past, but to sit here and read this resentment is just a little disappointing.
I can only speak for myself on this one but the reason I came to TRP at all was to understand the proverbial why?
Only after that did I realize I had something to contribute. But I didn't do it for me, I did it to be a benefit to other men who also wanted answers.
The point is, maybe I'm romanticizing my contribution in the past a bit but either demand to get paid, or do it because your voice and mentor ship is your mission.
Hopefully you come to terms with it all.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
I'll say. I have no idea you existed, and I'm coming on 4 years now!
Next you'll tell me occamsusername is coming back and talking about his wife ghosting him, or archwinger
The_Titleist 5y ago
Now that would be a blast from the past. Haha
Rian_Stone 5y ago
I have seen Adam-l come out of hiding,
cucko09 is one I'm waiting for. That guy was untapped gold.
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nadolny7 5y ago
I’m sure there are many others like me here, I’m just absorbing information and trying different theories/things in my life and when I comment it’s usually just to say I appreciate a certain post or insight.
I’m really far from actually posting something worthwhile here so there’s no point in cluttering the sub with a half assed field report.
TrueFacets 5y ago
This is a very good point I never thought about. Thank you! It's learning things like this that made me "consume" so much trp.
The thing is creating content and putting yourself, your voice, your face, or even your writing out there needs courage. I always was a guy with a lot of ideas but I rarely ever actually did something.
It was only after lifting for quite a while and after many failed "almost" attempts that I had the courage to let myself be judged by friends or even "the internet" by putting out content.
And I am still not ready to link the stuff to trp. The fear of being confronted by family members or friends in my private life is still there. Maybe I will get there one day.
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KeffirLime 5y ago
Tribalism.
For hundreds of years it was religion, now it's feminism, the left, the right, man vs women.
It's not hard to draw in the common person, simply sell them a better life and find someone to blame for their current existence not realizing it's full potential. Especially in a world where the peaks of good life are so readily displayed daily through social media. They feel apart of something, they feel they have purpose, that they are doing good.
These "religions" all fit the same model, there's good, there's bad. Prestige is awarded to those who drive the doctrine hardest. Those who call out racists, or oppose the feminists. The word of priests were highly respected, now it's the word of the uber feminist.
Ofcourse some may see TRP this way, and I think these are the women haters, anger phasers, those looking for a new cause and salvation.
However if anything we are the antithesis to this. And I think few users grasp that, simply due to their conditioning.
We value truth over what feels good.
It is not a call to arms, it is an understanding of the world the way it is and a toolbox to navigate that world effectively. It's not a join this or that movement and your life will improve, it's only you, yourself have the power to improve your life.
There's no good or evil, there just is what there is.
More so if you get to grips with the nature of free will. Genetic material + Environmental pressures pretty much dictates how we act and react to the world. Free will is more of an illusion than anything else.
Understand this and you will have far more empathy for pretty much everyone, feminists, our anger phase, incels etc.
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KeffirLime 5y ago
As much as I would like to maintain pure focus on sexual strategy, unfortunately, doing the ostrich on political endeavors won't do that focus justice either.
Different sexual strategies occur as a result of the current climate, which occurs as a result of the current political landscape to some degree or another.
if the current political agenda were vastly different, I don't think we would exist.
Agreed, however I think where his cynasism comes in is that there is a sign on the door that says "please do not barf or shit on the floor please", and there's plenty of toilets for them to use too.
It's a bit of a tough one, you want people to engage, but at the same time you want them to engage from a position of enquiry, wanting to learn more and understand the message, instead of coming in here and pissing and shitting their own thoughts and beliefs.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
Why would i want to have empathy for anyone but my close bros (those who legit have my back in a bad neighborhood) and family who support me?
Fuck outta here with this feminine shit.
Disobedient_Citizen1 5y ago
Its a tool one can use to gain understanding. to empathise is to put yourself in someone elses current position, and in so doing also experience their reasons, pain and motivations. If one understands a persons motivations then that person is easier to predict. Im sure you would agree that what one empathises with is easier to understand, and what one understands is easier to deconstruct and analyse. Logical deduction and all that.
The point here is that the current political fem centric narrative thrives on the manipulation of emotion. Your anger, self righteous indignation and outrage is their tool of control against you. Activism and protest will get you nothing but further serving their narrative. You will know you are free once you understand people for what they are, especially women. You will then accept it as reality, calm down and see things far more clearly. Most importantly you will no longer be vulnerable to emotional manipulation and triggering, you will come to expect and foresee all tricks because youve already accepted it as unavoidable reality.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
It seems that an understanding of people's raison-d'etre can come through logical analysis of their condition and their surroundings and actions. I do not care much for people's reasons, pain and motivations beyond what it can give me. In fact, I would argue it is not necessary to understand them. Psychopaths have an incredible ability to manipulate people but do not empathize with them simply because they cannot. If that is the case, by your logic that would be impossible. And yet it is.
Agreed. But where do these 'emotions' come from. From being 'empathetic'. If you do not care one way or another, they cannot control you because they use feminine wiles for control and feminine wiles depend on a guy being a feminine bitch.
KeffirLime 5y ago
For example, I have empathy for you right now, seeing as the free will part went right over your head, it's not your fault though, due to your genetic material and the environmental pressures you've been exposed to you we're always going to react with that, as was I with this.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
LOL
thinks he has free will....can't stop laughing.
KeffirLime 5y ago
Let me just re-post my original comment, this clearly keeps going over your head.
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Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
And I agreed with you. So what's the argument then?
KeffirLime 5y ago
The fact that you thought I was saying the opposite of what I was saying.
Chaddeus_Rex 5y ago
no...I was talking about how empathy was a feminine trait. had nothing to do with 'free will'. I think you are misinterpreting my statement
Here is what I wrote:
KeffirLime 5y ago
Black and white thinking. We all experience empathy to varying degrees. Females simply experience it more.
And I answered that:
GL_QUAD 5y ago
Agreed. Not fond of those "We" statements, as that is groupthink. Reductionistic, tribalistic (in a non-constructive sense). Also, reeks of extremely narrow perspective of seeing the world, and cult-like thinking.
This has been more prevalent on the MGTOW subreddit. Lately, it did spread over here as well. E.g., sentiments like:
Oh, oh, please, no. Let's keep those delusional fantasies at bay & please don't annoy me with them. As in, good manners, common courtesy.
Also, some wise guy out there must have said something along the lines of: "Those who lack their own resilient identity the most are the ones that wish to become one with a crowd/ a cult -- because they have to; they have no identity to survive on their own, so their next best shot is to absolve themselves in some idea (regardless how deluded^1 the actual idea may be)."
^1 Because it ain't about reason; it is about them feels.
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People are working on something right now - securing, writing an app, putting together newcomer primers, reviewing the UI. This is only a small part of the 300k, but that's to be expected. We only value things once they are gone.
Shaney96 5y ago
Any reason why the Weekly Improvement thread was revoked? I enjoyed contributing to that shit - I found it gave me motivation toward my goals and help me accountable for improving week-in, week-out.
jonpe87 5y ago
There is lays of red pill even in the red pill, those who get it, get it.
TheProphetPhysiquiel 5y ago
I said in a comment recently, this place is valuable to me because of the members with whom you can actually share ideas. The rest just get in the way; people looking for identity through a community that stands out. The loser who sits next to the cool kids at lunch and doesn't say a word.
Quaternionz 5y ago
Hey man, fuck you.
I've put a shit ton of effort into posting useful comments. Look through my post history.
My account is not new.
Yet the "New User Filter" still stops me from posting FR's and other content here in the main TRP sub.
You can't bitch about people not participating when you have draconian and opaque barriers to participation.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Why did you think this was about you then?
Quaternionz 5y ago
The fact that you don't think it was about me is itself the problem.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
You're honestly the first one I've ever heard of who the automod filter blocked after providing a decent amount of content for more than a week.
You're probably better off talking to the mods, automoderator has acted up before.
FindTheBus 5y ago
I believe that old fart posting "bouncer stories" and building his fanclub was one of the final straws. You were quarantined because of the cringe.
Omnidempotent 5y ago
You're not even part of this community. Why are you spouting off?
Rian_Stone 5y ago
At least he was here to give the perfect example.
It's like some ad-hoc provocateurs
[deleted] 5y ago
I honestly don't know what everyone is bitching about. Shit's fine. I love this sub.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
I will admit, post quarantine, the amount of signal to noise has improved.
vandaalen 5y ago
Wut? What happened? Anybody got a link for me?
Cum_Victor 5y ago
From the Man himself
Field_Of_View 5y ago
The guy should turn this into a race thing. That's his power move in this position since he's non-White. He should take full advantage.
vandaalen 5y ago
Ah OK. Thanks. Already knew that. I thought for a moment his provider deleted his blog or the NIC seized his domain or something alike.
Auvergnat 5y ago
http://www.returnofkings.com/195790/return-of-kings-is-going-on-hiatus
vandaalen 5y ago
Oh, wow.
ImHerWonderland 5y ago
Does roosh have any plans to offer hardcopies again in the future? I read at night before bed, but I use actual books instead of ebooks so I can avoid the screen.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I share your cynicism. One of my problems with this sub is its emphasis on purity. The slut shaming is indicative of anger at the truth instead of a calibrated approach on how to exploit said truth. In statistics there is descriptive vs inferential. Descriptive telling us the facts,inferential the conclusion. Some dudes gets stuck descriptive and become defeatists instead of inference on how to interpret the facts. Secondly is this notion of nihilism. RP sometimes seems to be a circlejerk of depression at Disney letting us down. We should revitalize idealism here in an RP Framework.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Plus, the purity test is so general as to be almost meaningless. the only real test (shitposting from readers aside, which is par for the course) is rule 0.
You've understood engough about the sidebar to speak somewhat eloquantly about it, have done something, and you're onboard with Rule 0, you're here to grow, to learn, to master, to teach etc.
Be somewhat invested on being a positive example for men, thats the only purity test
RuleZeroDAD 5y ago
It's actually easier than what you describe.
Nihilism, when viewing from an absurdist point of view, as opposed to defeatist, can be a freeing source of joy.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
What do you mean by an absurdist point of view bro? Please elaborate
RuleZeroDAD 5y ago
Nihilism can be taken in two ways:
Everything is pointless, we are put on this Earth to simply die, and most of our worth is pre-determined by circumstances beyond our control. Due to this reality, a man will choose to dwell on negative attributes (muh face, I'm short, hard gainer, whatever MBTI designation indicates introverted loser, etc...) and use those as built in excuses for why trying is for simps.
Our complete fragility and infinitesimally short consciousness in relation to the power and age of the universe makes our problems as humans ridiculous. A woman is mad at you? Hahahahaha. You've been rejected for sex? Ask someone else. Entertaining the feelings of others and indulging in negative feelings is absurd.
Time is way too short to waste the stupid accident we call life. Accept that it is silly, and join in the fun, as opposed to brooding over why chaos brought you a unibrow.
liquorbaron 5y ago
A way to blow a hole in this statement (as it seems to be something a lot of people get hung up on) is to understand that because of man's limited knowledge and limited perspective, it's not some sort of absolute truth. It's rather an arrogant statement to say or suggest that everything is pointless seeing as how humans don't even come close to knowing and understanding everything that goes on in the universe, outside it, in reality, etc. We are completely limited by our perception.
If one were to talk to people 1000 years ago I would imagine most would suggest that man will never fly, see in the dark, go to the moon, and that the Earth was the center of the universe; and if you were to suggest otherwise you'd probably be stoned or something. Nowadays we fly all the time via airplanes, we can see in the dark via night vision goggles, we've been to the moon (tinfoil hat off), and we're pretty certain the Earth isn't the center of the universe. Things change. Answers change over time. For people to suggest that everything is pointless is ridiculous.
Maybe there is an answer. Even if there is a point (say a God, gods, high tech alien race gives you the answer) would most people actually be satisfied or happy with knowing the answer or point? Probably not. The drive would be towards the next great unanswered question.
So why does the why actually matter then. It really can be freeing regardless of what we know.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
You make good points regarding scientific advancement. According to the Russian astrophysicist Nikolai Kardashev a civilizations advancement is based on how much energy it consumes. There are even hypothesized dyson structures that can utilize a stars total energy. I think if we see advancements in biomechatronics and man merges with machine then our life expectancies will make death a choice. The world in 25000 years is going to be such a chill place to live. Some say labour as a factor of production will be obsolete due to machines,imagine being a darth vader like being with no requirement to work. Fucking awesome
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Well said,sounds like when nihilism is properly interpreted it can lead to a liberating feeling of idgaf. Idgaf leading to outcome independence. What do you think of naturalism? You seem to have your philosophy down
RuleZeroDAD 5y ago
I have a degree in it.
Naturalism and the most studied critique of it came to prominence as I was entering undergrad. The Evolutionary Argument Against Naturalism (EAAN) was getting traction in academia at about the same time as string theory in mathematics. Not to go too deep, the argument is that combining the randomness of nature with the low chance of free will and self-awareness becoming selected-for traits (evolving man), doesn't lead to the conclusion of man in his current form.
Naturalism fits well with many of the evo-psych assumptions of the Red Pill, but fits poorly with any religious belief.
That being said, without naturalism, the scientific method in its current form would not exist, because the assumption that the natural universe is the source and container of all knowledge could be countered with supernatural explanations for everything currently unknown.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
I'd take logic over the supernatural any day. I notice TRP has religious elements despite being rigorous about accepting harsh truths which shows some cognitive dissonance. My main problem with religion is not the lack of evidence(which is a good point) but the abundance of it. How can a Christian say Vishnu is not real but that the Holy Spirit knocked up Mary? Way I see it,human beings will worship technology in the future. Look up the Kardashev scale,the more we advance as a species the more we will abandon superstition. I got another question for you. Psychologically speaking we regard delusion as irrational belief yet we exempt religion from the category of delusion. A virgin birth? That goes against the laws of established biology but society accepts it nonetheless?
RuleZeroDAD 5y ago
It's a political exemption mostly based in the nurturing of a large swath of society.
If you’ve been raised in an environment where you’re told by everyone and everything that there’s a kindly deity in the sky, or that the world is 6,000 years old, or that there are thousands of multi-armed gods controlling the world, or whatever, then why wouldn’t you believe it? There’s nothing that you experience on a day-to-day level that contradicts this, so your mental model of the world is fine with it. Nothing could be more Blue Pill. "Accept what you've been told" is the way a child is acculturated.
That’s why delusions are only diagnosed if they’re not consistent with the person’s existing belief system and views. A devout creationist talks to God while in church, that’s fine. An avowedly atheist lawyer starts doing it in the middle of a meeting, they’re probably delusional. If both of them suddenly started saying the world is going to end in 30 minutes because of angry frogs living in the sun, they’d both be considered delusional.
Today a man is considered delusional by the greater idiocy of society if he simply doesn't bend to "she must be believed." Delusion isn't based in truth or false, but "against one's ingrained belief." This is why religion is exempt, not because angels and demons are real.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Societal conditioning is crazy. That's why I look at nationalists as fools. In America you have Trump,here in South Africa it is Malema. Both prey on the ignorance of the public. In America its "No more immigrants!America is getting browned.!" Here in South Africa its "White people stole our land,lets take it back!" Shit like that makes me think voting is useless,I'd rather acquire wealth and lobby. Whats your take on the philosophy/political structure of plutocracy? I don't understand how society can be economically capitalist while being politically a democratic republic. There seems to be a contradiction there so in my mind most world governments are actually plutocracies following the capitalist model of economic organization. Whether its a dictatorship or democracy,those who hold wealth hold power
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Yup. To put it hyperbolicly:
If nothing really matters, then those consequences I'm afraid of don't either. What do I want then with this newfound freedom?
Thunderbird93 5y ago
True. I have a question though. How is sexual strategy amoral? It has a very clear morality, hedonism. Would you mind doing a piece on hedonism? Amoral would be something like time and space,either build a torture chamber on it or an elementary school. Whereas in my opinion sexual strategy is hedonic because pleasure is its goal. Think of AF/BB, can we blame a woman for calibrating and differentiating between short and long term pleasure? Hitting the gym? An investment in pain that pays off in pleasure(high self esteem)
Rian_Stone 5y ago
It's not, the sub is.
Have a morality, don't assume it's universal.
Thunderbird93 5y ago
How is sexual strategy not universally hedonic? Even the orgasm is the brains way of rewarding a being with pleasure for procreating. Neuroscientifically, the brain rewards with pleasure what it interprets as necessary for survival
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Stop being aspie. Sex is part of Sexual strategy, not all, and it's not biology
Thunderbird93 5y ago
Your cognitive dissonance is astounding. How is sex not the telos of sexual strategy?lmfao. You sound retarded
ZeroSixNiner 5y ago
I used to be more active on AskTRP offering the odd bit of subjective opinion and experience based advice, but mostly I've been a consumer as Rian pointedly described. I won't sit here and pound my fist in righteous indignation about "What're WE gonna do!?" because this is just the inevitability of operating on a platform managed by the enemy. Eventually, the enemy is going to pull the plug.
Of course, I use the word "enemy" as part hyperbole and partly in the ideological sense, but I'm sure you get my meaning. I have no idea what I can do as a simple, newish speck in the manosphere to help turn this around, and I'm not going to spend the energy trying to figure it out. Instead, I'm going to continue working on me. I know the drill. Lift, get my financial house, lifestyle, health, and philosophy in order. Apply what I learn. Learn from what I apply, etc.
Granted, I did pop in here and consume, but I figure those who post the wisdom of their experiences do so with the intent that someone who needs it will consume it. I have a lot of respect for those who are further along in this journey than I am, and I'd like to think that the highest compliment I could pay them is to learn from them, apply what they teach, and make it my own. Sure, it's a compliment that is unsung, but hopefully they can take some satisfaction that they have had a positive affect on someone who is still looking for the occasional guidepost.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Do what you like. I'm not particularly special. I just wrote field reports, took some life risks and got life back on track. Most of what I read here filled in some gaps from an otherwise successful life.
Adopt a more risk tolerant attitude, abundance mentality. Granted, I'm not the single guy in here to slay a load of strange, but I had the 30+ N count (pre tinder), world travel, and "alpha" occupation before i found this place.
This is why i know there's fallen alphas, as well as neverbeen betas all in the same boat. There is no masters teaching pupils here, it's just guys swapping notes. even the faliures posting horrible stories draw out wisdom in the comments of people calling them out. JamesSkepp wouldn't be here if it were'nt for that, he basically replaced an EC who went over the deep end and started posting conspiracis
ZeroSixNiner 5y ago
I hear you. Part of my not posting OPs here in the main TRP sub was out of fear, which I'll be the first to admit is probably irrational. It's a value proposition. I want to give something I think is valuable to the readership, but my direct applicable and relatable experience isn't really enough to dedicate a post to.
I mean, sure, I've got situations I can describe, how I handled them, and lessons that I learned, but they were on a more micro level. Most of that came out in my posts on the ask forum, since I mostly responded to threads I could identify with.
I think there is a certain fear people (myself included) have about not posting something good enough. I don't think it's necessarily out of perfectionism, but out of not wanting to get ripped for it by the masses.
Take, for example, the Bouncer Tales threads that were posted. I thought they were great. Good, examples of real people in real situations that we can learn from, yet in this very thread, someone just wholesale blamed it for whatever decline is going on around here.
It's not a very welcoming environment sometimes to people who may be fresh off of whatever calamity forced the red pill down their throats. No, I'm not saying this place should be a hug box by any means. I'm a huge proponent of tough love. But this process of self improvement and realization is tiered. Some of us have passed the initial shock and anger stage and have hardened up a bit, while others still might be reeling in the "What the fuck is happening!?" stage. You would think there would be a bit more understanding. Not validation or "there, there, baby, it'll be ah-ight", but more of a sense of "Yeah, I've been there before."
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Good enough for who though?
The only requirements are to apply redpill stuff we all read about, or to refute it and not shit on EC's for the sake of it. As far as not being welcoming, it's by design. Hard to take a guy seriously about his frame if he can't keep it together online with some randoms.
Either way, you'd be surprised how many of these low tier field reports have good lessons. Liveasiftov reports show me a lot, even though some of it is rather juvenile for where I'm at.
It's not as if my first posts on dealing with anxiety attacks were particularly great for my first posts
redditaccountiuse 5y ago
I think there is an inherent part about The Red Pill that you don't need to keep following it after swallowing it.
I don't read much TRP stuff anymore, but initially getting into it sure changed my life for the better. I'm not interested in game or flirting or whatever. It just taught me to put myself first and that's all I needed from it.
I find a large amount of people who post about it are in the angry/not understand it phase so it's not really my cup of tea.
BlackendLight 5y ago
I'm not experienced enough to have anything to contribute.
TheImpossible1 5y ago
A lot of people who sided with you, myself included, were from other men's subs.
In the age of MeToo, I think MGTOW is the best way forward, but your sub being censored is still disgusting crap pulled by women, and we all came to support you.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
it's not about me man. Trust me, this place could disappear tomorrow and I'll be fine.
sir_wankalot_here 5y ago
Cynic used to be a complement, it meant a man who attempted to make sense of reality. It is ironic that it is now seen as an insult.
I wrote a post about this ages ago. The same people OP was talking about slammed me for my low quality posts.
http://acrackletsthelightin.info/2016/12/31/Cynic-a-redpill-person-accepts-reality/
Rian_Stone 5y ago
value leeches love to have opinions, don't they?
king_dcruz 5y ago
so we are bad because we dont want a type out a 6 paragraph "field report" ? its a waste of time
Rian_Stone 5y ago
If you're now crying about the "sky is falling" in 6 paragraph rants or harrassing reddit admins, yes.
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adminsaregayniggers 5y ago
duh, those of us who have made it in any way shape or form don't spend more than a couple minutes a week on reddit (unless they are selling something)
clavabot 5y ago
The Guinness Article, does open the eyes, things I never considered before are being brought up to light.
Would have preferred it it ended on a more chearfull note, ie something we can do to be even more aware of, something to avoid etc, cuz it was hella depressing
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Knowing the stove is hot is often enough to keep from getting burned.
That shrink is really good source for understanding narcissism BTW. I highly encourage you to scrape it, in between workouts
DeadliftRx 5y ago
Either they learn or they burn. Why would one care about what the common peasant does?
Rian_Stone 5y ago
If they don't, they won't read this. If they do, they will and take action.
the message is it's own filter
Imalostman_ 5y ago
I really liked the weekly improvement threads. Any plans to bring them back?
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Have to ask RPS. I too preferred them, they had the same vibe as the MRP 'own your shit weekly' thread.
HiFr0st 5y ago
The sub becomes more and more of an echo chamber every time i check it.
Quantity of content is not quality of content
I have nothing else to say, just that thank god we dont get the same 5 posts from 300k users
Rian_Stone 5y ago
quality comes from quantity.
Data points are what makes theory
RedDespair 5y ago
I honestly don't give a shit about TheRedPill on reddit. I learned what I had to learn and I am not interested in "teaching" others. Let other people like you, who are interested to teach, and the mods fight for it.
Inactivity? apathy? That's to be expected. Everyone is drawing maps about the world and no one is certain about anything. Those who think that have found their answers don't visit sites like TRP. So it's safe to assume that most people here are lost.
I know I am selfish, but I am honest. The fact that TRP.red exists means that future content will never cease to exist. 2 things that I have learned about life from TRP is: Nothing lasts forever and enjoy the decline.
Who knows, maybe transitioning to a total independent site will give rise to subjects that people are afraid to even post here
UnleashYourLife 5y ago
To a certain degree, there's an echo chamber in here. You can only write TRP-"correct" content that is easily absorbed by the masses.
Take Dark Triad and Machevialism for instance .Go a little bit too hard on the dark triad, and the "Moral Alphas" will come out of the woodwork to get you...
[deleted] 5y ago
that's actually a very decent perspective, the content that creates the most disgust can potentially be the most powerful content here, it's just a matter of opinion whether you digest that information or downvote it to hell because it doesn't sit well with you, hopefully most of what's posted here or over trp is a matter of truth but we all know how much humans can potentially react to truth
Rian_Stone 5y ago
so? how sociopathic can you be if trolling on a subreddit scares you off from the glories of adoration?
UnleashYourLife 5y ago
Thought you were above projecting
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Naw. Post is partially a kick in the ass to get people on TRP.RED (which has tripled readership since then btw) and to point out a phenominon I saw.
I don't really feel eithe rway abotu it
TheStoicCrane 5y ago
That and AF/BB is a law of human nature. Women will bend over backwards for men they see as dominant but the ones they view as weak they treat worst than dirt. The purpose of TRP in a hyper simplified manner is to teach disenfranchised men the framework to become dominant.
hardlifeman 5y ago
Rian, when it comes to writing or ideas I might contribute, I have very high standards. I look at the words of Rollo Tomassi, Illimitable Man, Archwinger, Whisper, Black Label Logic, and so many of the other vanguard veterans, and I hold off on contributing until I have something very valuable to offer. There's already so much redundant, repetitive, and "Red Pill Lite" content here that it's harder to find the really great stuff - let alone future sidebar material. My main complaint if this forum were taken down would be years of many men's energy and effort being lost, and my bookmarks no longer working. Censorship and opposition of truthful ideas is nothing new. I'm glad there's TRP.red, and I'll support it as/when I can, but I've largely allocated such dollars toward buying these guys' books.
I write for my own benefit, first and foremost. And, after the long process of unplugging and doing tons of reading, I still have plenty of work to do before it's fully internalized and turned into the sort of effective and efficient action that gives it the proper substance and integrity from which to write. When I'm even halfway to the level of Vasily or GLO in terms of such integration, then I'll consider getting serious. Until then, I continue reading, observing, and learning - out of honesty and respect to myself, and to the community. The quieter you are, the more you are able to hear.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
There's this bozo on twitter, sigmamale, can't recall his handle right now. About 2 year ago, he was part of this tribe of aspie life coach wannabees who called themselves #upstreamtwitter.
I remember screencapping a post where he called rollo a nigger. Figured it's good to keep that one saved.
sure enough, two years later he's dick riding my random tweets. Empty platitudes, self improvement quotes, or insight? Doesn't matter, reference said screenshot and he loses his fucking mind.
I ask him, in the last two years, what has he contributed to anything? He had that same answer
he's a perfectionist, and it's not ready yet, not until it's perfect.
you should, I do. While I'm sure if someone looked hard enough they can find an example where i'm not, most everything in here is me articulating something I learned, so I can better understand it. Not a lot of what others 'should' do, but a fair bit of what i did, and why.
Of course, I don't recall seeing either of our names talking abotu civil war on account of the quarrantine either. I think those two things are related.
They weren't at the level of Vas or GLO when they started. My first posts were nigh incomprehensible. Best way to learn how to proof and edit. god knows my one-off comments vs editied copy show that the skill is not easy, nor simple.
Consumption attitude. this isn't a conversation, it's a message board, you can run your mouth all day and still read just as much as before. while I'm sure you're bang on, I know for a fact a lot of people say this to feel good about not doing fuck all and feeling superior over it
menace64 5y ago
As a man who’s been busy these last few years rebuilding a core of a life - been working on a book and it’s going well, but slowly - what should my first steps be back into the intersocial world? It’s been so long since I’ve taken the possibility of love/romance/dating/sexing seriously that it all seems a bit overdaunting for somebody as introverted as I’ve become.
Rian_Stone 5y ago
Go fuck it up, life won't end.
It's what chicks have been doing, and it's working out great for them nowadays.