Found this gold nugget on r relationships. Let's break it down:
This morning I saw a picture on facebook of a young, beautiful woman in an amazing dress, getting ready for a night out. She's the girlfriend of the man I'd spent many months with a huge crush on.
Immediately she compares herself to another woman she sees as competition for the alpha.
It was a striking reminder of something that I've been thinking about over and over these last few months - who would choose me over a beautiful woman like her?
SPLAT! The wall comes and this woman is clearly very aware of her rapidly declining SMV.
I just want to give up on men and dating. I've had such a hard time, been rejected by every man I've been interested in, wasted years on dating apps and got nowhere, and only two men have ever shown any kind of interest in me - and one of them was married!
Translation: I spent years on dating apps riding the cock carousel and getting pumped and dumped by chad over and over, and now I'm struggling to lock down a beta bux.
That first 'offer' of sex (with the single man, in case anyone was wondering) was when I was 27, it was like I'd suddenly become visible after years of being invisible to everyone.
"Invisible to everyone" actually meaning invisible to the top 20% alpha males who she desperately craves but can't get as they are fucking much more attractive women.
I don't even know what to do anymore. I've tried improving myself in every way I can think of, tried every tactic like dating apps and speed dating and new hobbies, but all I ever get is no. I'm so tired of hearing no.
Maybe if you lowered your standards and stopped pursuing the top% you'd get a man. But no, hypergamy always finds a way even in the lowest tier women.
I feel so emotionally drained after all the work I've put in over the years, only to get nowhere. It feels like I've been fighting a battle for years, and all I've got to show for it now are scars.
Typical edgy post wall rant
It makes me believe that there's no room for me in the dating world. It doesn't matter what I think about myself, or how I look - I'm just not wanted.
This is literally incel-tier thinking displayed by a woman. Really? Literally all she has to do is lower her standards and she will be bombarded with messages
Lessons learned:
-AWALT, Women are always hypergamous
-The hamster spins fast. It's not her fault, it's the fault of the dating world!
-The wall hits hard
EDIT: Perhaps carousel rider was an exaggeration but this doesn't change the fact that this girl is aiming WAAAY out of her league. I'd link some comments supporting this but I can't as you know so I'll leave you to find them yourselves :)
Vaca_Sagrada 5y ago
Guys, for al we know this woman hasn't been riding any carousel, it seems to me like a lonely woman who would like for a reasonably put together man to come her way but none has come yet. Millions of mediocre women got married to a decent guy and she got a bad deal, for whatever reason.
I highly doubt she's done anything extraordinary to attract a male - much less 'improving herself in every way imaginable' - but let's not kick the woman when she is down.
Additionally, she's been told anything and everything in the comments to the original submission, so there is not much to see here.
ozaku7 5y ago
"Invisible to everyone" actually meaning invisible to the top 20% alpha males who she desperately craves but can't get as they are fucking much more attractive women.
Actually, it's the top20% that makes the move, the lower 80% doesn't. That's another major difference why alpha fucks and beta bucks. Simply because men are supposed to take the lead and show interest like Mr. Single did. Sometimes it's just a game of showing that you are actually in the game and not on the sidelines. Then most beta's end up with women who pick the sideliners instead of the real players because they cannot attract anything better, then get dumped and end up at TRP how women are fucking disgusting while they themselves are no better, lol. You get what you deserve.
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You don't know how she looks like or who she truly is. Probably she is like a troll and behaves like one. Natural selection is at work here.
zyqkvx 5y ago
All you have to do is add 'Local' to beginning of that, "Local post wall, carousel riding woman is confused why she can't find a good man" and it reads like a 'The Onion' story.
WarViper1337 5y ago
What a load of shit. Post like this do us more harm than good. This woman most likely has genuine problems and is obviously not riding the CC and we have no idea of knowing what level of SMV men she is trying to date. OP you still have a long way to go I'm afraid.
coldcomfort87 5y ago
I strongly disagree with much your analysis, but I will also say it is primarily her own fault.
If she has never been with anyone until the age of 27, she is 'K selected' and does NOT ride the cock carousel.
However her back and forth hamster wheel of shooting down constructive criticism reveals her real problem, she is incapable of self examination and will likely never fix her self esteem issues. I have huge sympathy for her and it may not even be her fault. Its possible she was broken at childhood.
Sergeant_Zim 5y ago
This post is bullshit. You are projecting things you've read here to onto this woman, without even taking time to figure out if the shoe fits.
What is really worrying is how you got so many upvotes. People here don't apply critical thinking to what they read.
Skuggasveinn 5y ago
What is "the hamster"? And how does it "spin"? And yes I have seen a hamster wheel, but how it translates to Redpill theory, is unclear.
WarViper1337 5y ago
It is an analogy for female thinking. Basically it means that the female brain will spin out any excuse even it defies all logic to justify their actions or feelings. This can be both positive and negative and a lot of the advise around is about understanding how to use the female hamster to your advantage and when to recognize its dangers.
The famous example is when a woman has consenting sex with a man but later changes her mind about him but she also has to justify a reason as why she no longer likes him. If it is a man she percieves as low value the only answer is say she got raped since it would damage her perceived SMV otherwise. It can also be put to use in your favor since if she is attracted to you and you remain mysterious and aloof her mind will spin out all kinds of amazing fantasies about you to justify her liking you.
Skuggasveinn 5y ago
Great answer thank you. This could almost be a post in on it self.
AllahHatesFags 5y ago
This should go on the r-Whereareallthegoodmen sub if it's not already.
entrep4 5y ago
I hate posts like this one. TRP is meant to be about improving yourself as well as understanding women better. Not incel style black-pill rants. This is the kind of post that makes us look bad.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
It really is an embarrassment but it does serve the purpose of bringing out the bitter incels who are stuck in anger phase.....think any of them ever consider why in hell would any woman want to spend 10 mins with\much less get naked around such anger filled spergs without an once of empathy along with just unthinking hatred toward women in general and in particular their exact counterpart on the female side...bahahahahahah...damn it is embarrassing.
They have a fucking long way to go before any woman is going to spend time with them....
LLL3peat 5y ago
This was cross posted onto wherehaveallthegoodmengone as well.
http://archive.is/7wauL
PJ_GRE 5y ago
Are we calling people out for having standards? Of course everybody wants to bang the hottest women/men, what a naive and judgmental reaction to basic reproductive tendencies.
AlmightyPerun 5y ago
Yes, because if you're a godforsaken defective troglodyte, you either lower your standards or shut the fuck up. Having standards is fine, having unrealistic standards is not, because it will only make you miserable.
If you want to bang the hottest men/women, then look like the hottest men/women. That's called "having realistic standards". Otherwise, don't complain that you can't bang the hottest men/women. The source of misery are the unrealistic standards.
PJ_GRE 5y ago
Ok, fair enough. The OP posted it in a very salty way, and I misunderstood the meaning it seems.
-Stormcrow- 5y ago
No, I'm calling her out because she's bitching about being lonely but is clearly aiming way out of her league
stripethrowaway 5y ago
You can’t negotiate attraction.
bakamoney 5y ago
As someone from both trp and fa you are absolutely fucking wrong lmao.
If she had her first on 27 I am not sure she riding any cocks.
Why that maybe is different topic.
Any ways shouldn't you base your trp thesis on the average women instead of fa loners?
Sounds like a person with self confidence issues more than anything.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
For context, do we have actual pictures of this woman? From the way she talks she sounds like she is extremely unattractive.
This isn't just standard "oh, those men don't count" hypergamy, this reads like a deeply unattractive woman hypocritically whining about not being able to get attractive men while discounting men as unattractive as she is.
Haki_User 5y ago
Exactly, OP you are right about many aspects, but you suddenly jumped to the conclusion that the woman in the thread is a 7/8+ at least. The way she talks she is probably a sex deprived 5 or 6. Also, it is not that she didn't find herself a guy through dating apps. She has got to be a 2 for that to happen as there are always AFC willing to start a relationship with anything that barely resembles a human creature. She probably found a lot of them and didn't decide to post about them because, yeah, she won't seem like a victim anymore and no one will pay attention to her post.
omega_dawg93 5y ago
maybe her unattractive traits have nothing to do with her looks.
some broads are an emotional mess... no one wants to deal with... no matter how good they look.
you will get used to the looks; the crazy will always be brand new.
bakamoney 5y ago
This sub is one to speak. Mention dating a 5;6 and this sub goes full retard
Hypocrisy at its best.
Does the op think people don't exist below average looks or what lol
Occams_Stubble 5y ago
Good point. If we are going to be deadly honest in analyzing the relationships between men and women we need to keep in mind the very common issue of confirmation bias and echo chambers.
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MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Right, but people are isolating themselves. It's not hard to meet people: you go out and you do stuff. You'll meet other people who also go out and do stuff.
Right..... I mean women are profiting from all this bullshit more than we are. Women get more of everything, and men pay more in almost all ways.
But still, there are plenty of people at the bottom who get fuck all.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
The number of physically unattractive women out there who could easily be nicknamed "Busy Buns" suggests a deeper issue.
I read this as someone with profoundly off "girl game." Perhaps she's even on the spectrum to drive away even the most extreme no-standards horndogs.
Note that she's not complaining "nobody" will commit to her, she's complaining she didn't get even one offer of sex until age 27. That's not hypergamic overchoosiness, it's broken-at-least-2-major-ways womanhood. Remember, all a woman needs to be a player in the SMP (but NOT the more demanding RMP) is pleasant company and sexually available. This individual isn't an example of hypergamy, she sounds like an outlier many standard deviations from the mean.
ELI3k 5y ago
She’s a disgusting ham planet is my guess
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
She says only two offers of sex. That screams deeply unattractive.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
That's humiliatingly tantamount to nobody for a 27yo woman. Sucks to be her.
An_Actual_Politician 5y ago
She's morbidly obese.
I guarantee it.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
Not a dealbreaker. Fat young women do just fine in the dating market. Some men like it.
JohnnySixguns 5y ago
Are we reading this right?
It can't possibly be correct, can it?
Did she mean that she - herself - only offered sex to a man for the first time at age 27?
That's actually how I read it the first time because the alternative - no man has ever tried to fuck her - seemed preposterous.
MattyAnon Admin 5y ago
It's hard to know. Women often say "he doesn't count" as they ignore the bottom 90% of men.
Conversely, she could be really really fat and ugly.
jcrpta 5y ago
I think it's far more likely that her opinion of her own attractiveness needs drastic recalibration.
It's not unusual for women to barely notice that men who are too far below them in relative SMV terms exist. Should such a man dare say anything (beyond "You want fries with that?") to her, shooting him down will be so automatic she'll have completely forgotten she did it just ten minutes later.
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
I don’t believe it. She’s just exaggerating for sympathy.
WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 5y ago
For full context here is the original post OP is talking about. No pics. But from her tone you can see what's going on.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
Your attraction for others is not something you can HACK.
Maybe she isn't such a bad person, maybe she wants a guy who is actually something better than the norm. (which obviously is the male version of the unicorn)
thats why she may choose to fuck only 'chads' she wants the best that men can be.
erthian 5y ago
if she wants to be around the best, she needs to be the best. either by being the most attractive, or having something other then sexuality to offer. would you want a low value, needy, unattractive partner?
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
that's exactly why this sub exists to become GOD tier in the eyes of woman
XxNerdKillerxX 5y ago
She sounds like she has psychological issues and in particular trust issues. How she got into a romantic situation with a married man and then uses that as an excuse to explain that her dating life is cursed... I think she has trust issues with men. Those are probably preventing her from having a relationship with men and now that she is getting older, things are not looking good. Kind of sad really. I don't know why so many guys here have to claim she was riding the cock carousel. I think when I hear the word "cock carousel" I know the guy writing that is an beta-type sore-loser and reallllly insecure that he thinks everyone else has this great sex life but him.
mallardcove Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
Good chances are that she is fat.
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bakamoney 5y ago
Just because I can fuck a cat doesn't mean I am going to.
-Stormcrow- 5y ago
Nope, no pics. So she's probably your standard entitled landwhale
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XxNerdKillerxX 5y ago
I think she has trust issues currently. And she might be autistic to some degree, the poor socialization/integration causing her to not have sexual relations until 27. So she would be a decent match for someone here probably.
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Judom7491 5y ago
She’s had it “drilled into her” ????????????
Docbear64 5y ago
When I was super overweight I used to think that any woman who wasn't fat was at least a 5 . Then I lost a lot of weight and the way I rated women changed significantly .
It may sound dumb to you guys but I had to learn that just because she's not fat doesn't make her attractive. The better I maintain a lower weight and more I work on my fitness the more my grading changes.
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Docbear64 5y ago
Wow that's a great point that I haven't considered. Have you been to other countries and learned anything particularly significant in your approach to women from other places or I guess how they behave towards men ?
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
The more you improve yourself, the higher your relationship baseline becomes. Kind of sad because as a top 5-10% man myself it is incredibly lonely. Yes you can balanced 5-10 very attractive women at once, but to find someone that checks your boxes becomes very difficult
ZephyrBluu 5y ago
By checks your boxes do you mean for an LTR or just for a plate?
Truedemocracy4 5y ago
Oh LTR. Plate to me is just be attractive (6.5+ out of 10). I do have higher standards there than most though - mainly I don't want a plate who is a complete whore and an STD risk. Personality just has to be tolerable
Stokestix 5y ago
What a fucking salty post. You sound like an incel. Not every woman out there is a cock carousel rider. Some are really struggling, because they are not attractive and there's nothing they can do about it. As men, we can lift, get a good job, make a lot of money, improve our social status etc. But a woman? What can she do? Unless you can show me proof she's really a cock carousel rider, you shouldn't post shit like this.
shenanigans38 5y ago
Absolutely. There are PLENTY of CC riders, but it seems she wasn't one. Or what's more likely, I imagine, is that she wanted to be one but wasn't hot enough to ride the type of carousel she wanted.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
Yep.....this says much more about the Op than the woman.
LeftHookTKD 5y ago
can get in shape , get a good job, make a lot of money, improve our social status etc
Stokestix 5y ago
Yes, that's exactly what guys want LMAO
LeftHookTKD 5y ago
That's what men want. Why would I ever marry a women who will end up fat as fuck, rely on me for money, etc? That's a beta bux.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Somebody gets it. I've never understood the animus against women with decent jobs.
Stokestix 5y ago
Are you telling me that you'd fuck a woman who is in shape, has good job, makes a lot of money (maybe more than you), has high social status, but you're not attracted to?
reluctantly_red 5y ago
Assumes facts not in evidence. Why wouldn't I be attracted to such a woman?
Stokestix 5y ago
Well, good for you, if you have logical feelings, because if I'm not physically attracted to some chick, then I'm not. None of those things will change my attraction. Attraction is non-negotiable.
thebluesSV 5y ago
Dude you sound like a woman hahahaha
Stokestix 5y ago
Man, I wish! That would mean I understood women enough to pull some hot ones. The fact is I just know they don't care about those things and men mostly are attracted to looks. Where do you think the scale 1-10 came from? We're not rating their job for sure.
reluctantly_red 5y ago
You're argument is going off the rails. No one wants to be with someone who they don't find attractive. However, having an education and career makes a woman more attractive.
Stokestix 5y ago
Well, good for you. For me her looks and then her personality that count. You say "having an education and career makes a woman more attractive" which assumes she's already attractive... when my initial point was that she was NOT attractive, as in her face is not attractive, so beside plastic surgery, I'm pretty sure no amount of education/career is gonna suddenly make her beautiful.
bakamoney 5y ago
But men don't need that.
That's what trp tells me. We make our own right?
LeftHookTKD 5y ago
Who said anything about need? We don't NEED an extremely hot woman either. It's about attraction. Getting in shape alone will attract much more men. TRP also discourages being a beta bux provider.
At this pt at her life she's older and less attractive physically. If she wants something srs then she should bring something else to the table
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-Stormcrow- 5y ago
Literally all she has to do is work on her appearance a small amount. Men have to work exponentially harder than women to be considered attractive.
I am not an incel, and I don't support their bullshit ideas either. I'm just currently in anger phase.
I actually made a mistake with the title - she's not a carousel rider, she just is aiming way higher than her league.
stripethrowaway 5y ago
Doesn’t excuse low-effort posts with a severe lack of critical thinking skills.
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Stokestix 5y ago
That makes more sense. There might be a little entitlement there, but probably nothing more.
LeadVitamin13 5y ago
I don't know but it seems like something is different here. Even most of the women on My 600 lb Life somehow have a boyfriend or husband.
Posts like these seem dissappointing. I remember a post about a girl settling down with her beta bux guy. Turns out she was in her early twenties, and they split all costs down the middle.
BlueFreedom420 5y ago
The real sad part is some poor fool will get with this chick and suffer for it. He will be the punching bag for all the wrongs in her life.
atticusfinch1973 5y ago
The relationships sub is a cringe fest. Mostly guys and girls getting cheated on and severe family issues. Avoid it unless you want to feel good about your life for a bit.
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It's run by 3rd wave feminists with a strong agenda. So even standard blue pill people should see a problem with that.
stripethrowaway 5y ago
Calling you out. I read that post you’re talking about. She’s had sex with one man. How is that riding the carousel?
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
A incel with too much bitterness who let his rage see something that isn't close to reality.
But it doesn't serve a purpose in that it highlights the forum readers who are stuck in anger phase as they start flinging insults and accusations around about hiding her n-count and only fucking Chads....very few of them even look at the post before posing their boilerplate rants about women in general...it is almost as if they have them stored so that they can just cut and paste when needed.
I would likely delete this if it was me as it says much more about the Op than about the woman.
anonymous_bastard5 5y ago
She's lying to send virtue signaling - "Oh I'm such a virtuous woman who has a low n-count! Worship me!"
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AlmightyPerun 5y ago
Women who have only had sex with one man usually forget about a dozen (or much more) drunken one-night stands. Often times, it's conscious lying, a manipulation tactic, but it can also be delusion. In other words, AWALT.
Tl;dr - She's clearly fucking lying lol, that's just what women do when it comes to relationships. If it wasn't "official", it doesn't count.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
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some women are just nerdy and dont fuck until they meet someone they click with, try it sometime when you're not sperging out
stripethrowaway 5y ago
I’m willing to put money that she’s a woman who wasn’t taught social skills and suffers from some sort of social anxiety. This doesn’t read “I’m lying about my n count,” this reads “I think everything comes down to my looks and my self esteem suffers beyond what is normal for women.”
She has nerdy habits that attract retirement age people and she lives in a small town. She probably wouldn’t even know what to do if a guy approached her, I doubt she’d even pick up that he’s interested unless he explicitly said something that fits in her internal dialogue of “men only objectify women and care about nothing else.”
Yes, AWALT. Yes, Post-wall. CC rider? I think not.
someonesopinion6969 5y ago
There's a potential she just has autism. I hate the way i look and unfortunately that is the one thing that holds me back, the same could be for her
stripethrowaway 5y ago
There’s also potential that OP has autism with a sperg post like this.
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erthian 5y ago
this legit makes me feel bad for this woman... but just like the rest of us, she has a responsibility to better herself, or suffer the consequences.
russelln 5y ago
I don't feel bad at all, if this was just another ugly fat guy making this post I would laugh, not going to be any different just because it's a woman.
erthian 5y ago
I would feel bad for him too. I don't enjoy other's suffering. I'm to here learn and to help people grow.
saucierlol 5y ago
I dont feel bad for her but I respect her for not becoming a rapist like most sub 5 women are nowadays.
LeadVitamin13 5y ago
I think she said shes been working on it. Realistically the best some are going to get no matter how hard they work on themselves is a 6-7.
shenanigans38 5y ago
I've always thought of that. If you're a 4 as a woman, and you work out and cake up make up and work on yourself, I suppose at best you'd be a 7? 7.5 if you're lucky? As a dude who's a 4? Well it's pretty simple, a combination of education, working out and money all of which are things you can always be working on. In some cases just money will do it.
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edargham 5y ago
Hypergamy doesn't care.
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XxNerdKillerxX 5y ago
Can you imagine if a guy wrote this on his facebook? People would be writing snarky comments like "Did they find the bodies yet?"
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Sounds like she was just never attractive, not just the wall in play here.
All that work she apparently put it wouldn't have include 5 hours per week in the gym, lets put it that way.
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justtenofusinhere 5y ago
Water is wet and people want the best.
She is no more wrong for wanting top men then men are for wanting attractive women. I would not, even for a second, consider some 500 lb ham beast. Why should a woman consider a man below her?
Before you say, "But she won't even consider men 1 or 2 points above her," so what? If those men aren't worth the effort of a relationship, then she's making the correct decision.
After all, TRP says no matter how hot, no matter how great, even if she appears, totally, to be a unicorn--DO NOT MARRY HER. If it's not worth it, it's not worth it whether you're a man or a woman.
JoeyOreally 5y ago
didnt expect to find something like this here. that line of thinking does indeed work both ways
shenanigans38 5y ago
But isn't that relative? That's the whole point of saying she should lower her standards, relative to who she is she's delusional to think she'll get men more than 1 or 2 points above her.
justtenofusinhere 5y ago
Yes and no. She's pining over a guy not necessarily over a relationship. When a woman is complaining she's alone and can't find a guy anywhere, it usually means she needs to lower her standards if a relationship is that important to her.
But that isn't the case, although OP seems to be assigning to her that mentality. What the woman here is doing, is getting pissed that she can't get the guy she wants because he's out of her league. OP is taking that to mean she needs to lower her standards as if she is just whining about not having a relationship.
Hence my response to OP.
shenanigans38 5y ago
Sure
Agreed
I'm losing you somewhere here. By saying she's looking for a guy are you implying she's looking only for casual sex? If not, then what's the difference between her looking for a guy and looking for a relationship? I would be inclined to believe OP is right, since she is over 30.
She's pining over a guy, but cannot possibly get that guy. What does she want from that guy? Almost certainly a relationship and eventually marriage. Hence, if she wants a relationship she should lower her standards in order to find that guy, or risk being perpetually single.
justtenofusinhere 5y ago
As far as I can tell from what OP related, she wants a relation ship with that guy. He has everything she wants to make the relationship worth it. That is different from women just complaining about not being able to get a relationship period, or a relationship with any "good" guy.
This woman is talking about one man, not any or every men.
shenanigans38 5y ago
Oh I see what you meant. You could certainly read her post like that, I interpreted it as she's jealous of the girl that got that guy but would like a guy like him, not necessarily him. Then she gets sad that guys like him wouldn't give her the time of day.
tempolaca 5y ago
My neighbor is a beautiful blonde, about 45 years old. She made quite clear that she want me in her bed. But I just can't do it. She looks old, have a great body but I just can't. Don't blame me, nature made me this way. I like young booty.
I'm 40 btw, so no spring chicken.
get_unoffended 5y ago
There are no lessons learned here. You're making a lot of assumptions. We don't know anything about her, really.
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ucfgavin 5y ago
I don't have any pictures of this woman or any credentials...but I would be curious to know what "improving myself in every way I can think of" actually means. Was she working out? Was she successful in her career?
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warlordchad 5y ago
Obviously this is an individual case, but OP’s points are generally correct:
1) Women—especially in today’s society—are extremely hypergamous, which translates into being unrealistically picky. Yes, part of this is because of social media and swipe dating inflated their standards, but no one is forcing anyone to be on FB or Insta or Tinder. However:
2) Women generally refuse to take responsibility for their own lives—especially when it comes to dating and relationships.
One of the best things TRP teaches is for men to take ownership and responsibility for their own lives. If I drop a plate, a girl doesn’t like me, or otherwise, it’s my fault—period, end of story. Women don’t think like that. It’s the responsibility of the world to take care of them, including providing a man she probably doesn’t deserve.
3) Women—and I don’t necessarily blame them for this—don’t account for the fact that after 23-24, their SMV is decreasing... if not before that even. This is because society treats everyone as equals and assumes it’s perfectly reasonable to wait until late 20’s early 30’s to get married. It is for a man—his SMV is still peaking—but for a woman she’s well on the downhill slide. This would be fine if women could lower their standards and/or compromise, but hypergamy won’t allow that.
TL;DR—if women want to secure an Alpha as a husband, they should find him in their early 20’s and then fuck his brains out for the next 30 years or more. Instead they ride the Chad carousel, flit from relationship to relationship, and then can’t understand why no dude wants to marry them when they’re a less attractive, lower energy, worse attitude version of what they used to be.
ahab_dies 5y ago
As is always the case with these kinds of women complaining about this situation... It's everyone's fault but their own.
If a man can't get what he wants he thinks "what's wrong with me?"
If a woman can't get what she wants she thinks "what's wrong with the world?"
Of course there are exceptions to both rules here. Incels, for instance, blame the world around them when all they need to do is accept responsibility for personal development. But you get my point.
AlonsoHV 5y ago
Someone is in the anger phase.
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TheSelfGoverned 5y ago
She is already bombarded by messages.....from men who are invisible to her.
I think women like this wont snap out of their hypergamy until theyre biologically infertile and its too late.
TopOccasion29 5y ago
Why should they snap out of their hypergamy though. Isn't hypergamy necessary?. TRP says you can't negotiate attraction and if she's not attracted to low value men you can't blame her.
However, i agree that she's delusional thinking she can snag a 9 or 10 is she's a 5 or 6.
my_mix_still_sucks 5y ago
Lesson learned: no lesson learned, op is just stuck in the anger phase. She just sounds like she's having a rough time. I know no moralizing on this sub but this really does not sound like a good example of AWALT to me
omegajelly200 5y ago
Yet you are still fat, ugly and obnoxious. No, you did not.
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Young-disciple 5y ago
she sounds extremly ugly, the only wall she hit was the genetic one
starkfuture 5y ago
Problem with these women is that they come to the realization too late. They only realize their declining SMV when the random cocks start to dry up.
Most men will be okay with pumping and dumping a post wall bitch. But all men have better standards when it comes to 'marriage material', if there is any such thing.
By the time she realizes her real SMV, the wall will be in her face.
TopOccasion29 5y ago
While she suffers from hypergamy like all women do, she's not a cc rider like how you make it out to be. From her post she's only been with one person when she was 27. She seems like an unattractive woman with anxiety who lacks social skills and possibly has autism.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
"I just want to give up on men and dating. I've had such a hard time, been rejected by every man I've been interested in, wasted years on dating apps and got nowhere, and only two men have ever shown any kind of interest in me - and one of them was married! "
What the fuck are you talking about? You invented a bunch of shit based entirely on your own biases about women which have nothing to do with this apparently unattractive woman.
She hasn't been some cock riding harlot, she has been the female version of a significant portion of TRP.....she just isn't attractive enough to get offers. She seems to have earnestly attempted to find a man but has received only 2 offers at all.
This post says much more about you than it does about this poor woman....let go of the irrational hate, it is causing you to see things which have no relation to reality.
-Stormcrow- 5y ago
Perhaps that's because she's aiming too high (hypergamy)? There are examples all the time of fat and unattractive women being swarmed with messages on sites like tinder so it's quite impossible that she just "can't find a guy". Rather she can't find a chad because no chad wants to date her. She referenced something along the lines of hypergamy deeper into the comment chain (I'll try find it later).
Perhaps I do have irrational hate. I only found TRP a while back and I'm still in anger phase. I was brought up to believe love was a fairytale-esque thing and that wool being pulled from one's eyes is not pleasant.
NeedingAdvice86 5y ago
You invented the hypergamy just as you did the rest of the rant....
Stop projecting your anger and desire for HB10s on this obviously troubled girl who someone said from her post history has severe shyness and apparently isn't simply Stacy enough for guys to think it is cute and want to smash.
This type post does more harm to this sub than help.
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This is the issue with dating apps. They encourage subpar women to be hypergamous and seek out the top 20% of men despite offering nothing of value. It's a Chad or bust mindset.
This is why The Red Pill is crucial. If you're not in the top 20% of men you're screwed. Not just with women, but with life in general. It really is a subhuman existence when you're in the bottom 80%.
geo_gan 5y ago
Very defeatist attitude soldier
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How so? I believe any man can make it into the top 20% if they have self-discipline and work hard
geo_gan 5y ago
Thought you meant you were in bottom 80% and gave up