Hmmm. This is interesting. I'm 28 with no tattoos. I'm a fairly attractive girl I think, I get hit on everyday, but my standards are high. My partner count is 2, including my current boyfriend. I have several tattoos I want to get, but I want them in places where I can hide them if I don't feel like being the girl with a tattoo. They're all Fandom concepts. I don't have any yet, because I'm scared I'll regret them.

I came across this by googling "submissive babygirl tattoos". I'm a feminist but also in a bdsm relationship with a daddy. I'm his babygirl. He's expressed an interest in marking me, so I've been considering it. Of course it would be somewhere no one would ever see but daddy and I. What's ironic though, is that when we first met, he was very turned on by the fact that i have no tattoos. He said it made me pure, innocent and special compared to other girls. But I think when a girl gets a tattoo, they're thinking it's going to make them special. But because practically every girl has them, they're really just sheepish.

I think it's just a sign of the downfall of society. They remind me of when whitey was running around in the woods and shooting arrows, like some celtic tribe back when they were getting fucked over by the Romans and then later the Saxons.

Whitey has become so confused that they've regressed. They want to go back into the woods rather than face reality. Tatts are a sign of cowardice to me.

They sure work though, in getting puss that is, but you're still a coward, just hiding like a little vermin.

Before anybody chimes in to say they find tattooed chicks sexy, answer this: Would that same exact girl look sexier with or without the tatts?

Depends on the tattoo. Ass antlers obviously aren't sexy - particularly when they're naked, but other tats can increase the sexiness.

Would that same girl look sexier with or without tats? I have to say yes. Not everyone, and not flash pieces. But people that have good art that has meaning, are significantly more attractive. I like being able to see a little bit of someones mind right away. They're fun to talk about. Great conversation starter.

To each theyre own though I suppose. If the body is a temple why not decorate the walls?

ugh. i live in Denver and there are so many girls who ruin their bodies with mods and tats in the downtown area. so many shitty tattoos, so many disgusting gauged-out earlobes, so many of those bovine nasal septum piercings. those fucking septum rings remind me of yaks and goats.

you're absolutely correct that leftist girls are confused or in denial about what men want. they are just emulating the traits and behaviors that they find attractive in men, and they've been brainwashed to abhor conventional feminine wiles. this is fine while they are still young and skinny as guys will still fuck them just because they are young, skinny, and female.

those girls are going to be very frustrated once they get older. they may have thought that guys wanted them for their style, personality, and whatnot all along because that's what always attracted them to men. in reality, those girls were getting attention from men just because they were young and were willing to put out. the nature of male sexuality and desire is completely lost on so many women. just stating what men are attracted to is taboo in a lot of contexts, and women will suffer the most because of it.

if you're thinking about a career, i think that plastic surgery for tattoo removal and earlobe gauge repair will be in high demand over the next few decades.

Makes me sick when I bang a girl doggy and she has a tramp stamp

Even worse are the ones below the "Lower Hip Tattoos" just so trashy when a girl has a butterfly there

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I actually read the studies they mentioned. Some of the information is not correct. Read it again and compare to studies.

Haha, I was banned from /r/trashy for saying.

• "Tattoos have zero meaning among the civilized society. Men get them because women like the bad boy look and women get them because they have daddy issues."

Women get their loose snatches in a bunch when you criticize tattoos. It obvious because its one of the few things women can hold on to.

• Here is the fall out from my comment.

http://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/2jet1r/classy/clb0qgm?context=3

There are different kinds of people, who get tattoos for different reasons. I live in an area where tattoos are very popular and every day more and more people are getting them.

What I've noticed is that, men are much more likely to get big tattoos (sleeves, back/chest pieces) and women are more likely to get small tattoos (wrists, back of neck, under boob). It also seems that men are more likely to pick something they want and go all in, and women will pick multiple little things (possibly because they can't fully commit).

The biggest thing with tattoos is the reason a person got them in the first place. I'd say guys are getting them because they are 'cool and attractive' to women, and women get them because they believe guys want girls with tattoos. However, there are people who get tattoos that have meaning to them, and don't use them as an accessory to increase SMV.

I got a tattoo on my 21st birthday of a German Shepherd. It's on my arm close to my shoulder, about the size of a closed fist. The tattoo has meaning to me, and I didn't get it to show off. I barely ever wear sleeveless shirts so the only time people even see it is if I am at the beach/pool or at home with nothing on. When people do see it for the first time (plates, new friends, etc) they are usually interested and ask about it. This is why I think people are getting those really big beautiful pieces on their bodies. It gets people asking about them, admiring the work and proves to be a bit of an ego boost. (Remember that many women are attracted to tattoos).

With that being said, look at the girls who get lots of big tattoos that men typically get. If you have them on social media, 80% of their photos will include 'tattoo slips'. People will comment and ask about their tattoos. It's an attention seeking method that proves effective. Men get the same attention for their tattoos, but men usually don't upload 20 photos of them like the girls do.

I think your view on tattoos also depends on whether you have any yourself. "Tattooed people don't care if you don't have tattoos" is a quote I see thrown around a lot, and it's true. It seems people without tattoos always have to voice their opinion when it has nothing to do with them.

Tatted chicks are like the training wheels for noobs except the older ones tend to be nastier and crazier all around. Back in WW2, a lot of the planes painted bombs or whatever on them to indicate missions (if bombers) or kills (if fighters). Waiting for the fad when women get small dicks tatted all over themselves to document their count along with a few Ace in a Day inscriptions.

Anyway, tats back in the day used to be primarily a male bonding thing, popular in the services. As long as it was covered up for formal events, no one blinked twice when a marine got something. Even my druggie friend just got his first tat to commemorate his best friend dying. Really no different than when students in european universities got dueling scars that would be on their face their entire lives. Mark of honor and fraternity. It's a male thing, women wouldn't understand so they can try to imitate the ink, but rarely emulate the sentiments.

But all that individualistic shit around? Not for me. Not the same person I was 5 years ago, let alone 15-20. Wouldn't want my youthful dumbassness mark me lifelong.

This kind of female solipsism extends to so many things. Being aggressive, loud, promiscuous, etc. Having that 6-figure paycheque from a career that requires 12-hour days. It's simply insane how feminism convinced women that these are things men should be attracted to, just because they feel that way.

I'll say this though; I do find tats on a woman sexually appealing, but it's the quickest way to disqualify herself for committing myself to.

I know a retired social worker whose personal experience convinced him that there is a strong correlation between tattoos and piercings, and traumatic abuse. His opinion is that tattoos and piercings are a form of self-harm, and the motivation for self-harm is to gain control of the pain and suffering being inflicted by forces outside of one's control. So, the child whose parents are abusive and neglectful experiences pain, and the self-harm involved in getting a tattoo or a piercing allows the child to be in control of that pain. In other words, kids who get fucked up fuck themselves up in order to gain control of how fucked up they are.

So when he sees the young people of today who have an abundance of tattoos and piercings, all he sees are the traumatized and abused kids he used to work with, and he can't accept the narrative that tattoos and piercings are positive expressions of artistic creativity. He acknowledges that this opinion is likely to be extremely unpopular amongst trendy hipsters who love getting tattoos and piercings in order to look chic, but the association between body-modification and childhood trauma is too fixed in his mind for him to ignore.

I asked a girl once why she had so many tattoos. She replied that she got one for every major traumatic event in her life. She didn't know how to deal with the emotional pain of losing a friend in a car accident, or having her mother die of cancer, so she transmogrified that emotional suffering into the physical pain of getting a tattoo. Unlike emotional trauma, physical pain is something that she can deal with.

I know another girl whose parents fucked her up with a religion they didn't even believe in. She had the word DOUBT tattooed on her stomach, where the T in DOUBT was drawn in the shape of a crucifix.

Happy healthy kids don't get tattoos.

I always found women with tattoos attractive as a niche. Tattoos can definitely enhance the looks of certain women, but the sort of women they enhance the look of have a specific look to them in the first place. Most women for sure look worse with tattoos, and makes a decently ok woman often look trashy.

Black Dragon has a great piece that touches on this, which he lays out in http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2013/09/12/benefits-of-dating-an-older-woman/ He calls it "Gender Myopia" - thinking that what appeals to you and your gender, will appeal to the opposite sex.

• Men like sensitive, caring women. They try to be that way, when women want Alpha instead.

• Women like strong, independent men (aka Alphas). So they become strong, independent womyn, because men want that too, right?

It's a very human thing - assuming other people are like you. Men and women are very different, and it's easy for each gender to assume the other looks at things the way they do.

Before anybody chimes in to say they find tattooed chicks sexy, answer this: Would that same exact girl look sexier with or without the tatts?

With. Is it hard to understand that some guys also think tattoos are sexy?

Interesting analysis on risk-behavior and LTR potential and all, but I think it's going a good deal too far to draw the conclusion that all guys don't find tattoos attractive.

I find women's attraction to tattoos a great indication of how little removed we are from the animals - Women attracted to the bird with the brightest plumage. I actually find it pretty depressing.

An example from my life:

I personally participate in some extreme sports, and thus actually am a risk taker, except I look like a perfectly normal guy. I have no tattoos, or piercings, and don't dress or talk like some surfer dude. (In sports that don't involve the water at all you still get people who talk like that.)

Yet I know plenty of guys where the riskiest thing they do is get wasted on the weekend, and simply because they have full sleeve tattoos women are attracted to them and think they're dangerous.

This would be akin to a man growing tits to attract women, because he's turned on by them.

or a man being nice and friendly, because he is attracted to nice and friendly women.

I see a woman with tattoos as being lower class. Doesn't think about the future. Doesn't have a plan for her life, or if she does it's not a very ambitious one. Maybe she doesn't plan to live to old age or can't even think that far into the future to think what those tats will look like on her 70 year old skin. Yeah maybe some risk taking seems sexy but chicks never actually take real risks. They are almost always posers. They want the tough edgy look but they didn't do anything to earn it.

I've always agreed with this as well. There have, however, been many times that I have wanted to or did hook up with a girl because she had tattoos. I can't say if she would have been better without them, because I don't have a before to contrast it with, but I did choose them out of a group of girls.

Here's the kicker...they were all hookups and I would not have wifed any of them, nor would I want a girl with a lot of tattoos as my wife.

Edit: to add to this...the tattoo/crazy chick sex isn't they best I've had either, so we can put that myth to rest.

Not gunna lie, I find a nice thigh tattoo/upper leg sleeve hot, but only on a hot leg.

It can add a bit of colour/difference/uniqueness to an otherwise fairly bland body part, good legs are good legs - but I have to agree. Women are hot anyway, adding the tattoo can either improve or decrease attractiveness; but it can't make it magically appear from zero.

enter female solipsism...

I just want to comment that I think this is largely the reason for "nice guys" they're acting in the way they want women to act.

Note too that there is a difference between a tiny ankle tattoo that "represents them" and a tramp stamp or a sleeve.

If men could grow tits, the human race would go extinct.

I find tattoos sexy, depending on what and where they aren't. For example, tramp stamps are something of a turn-off for me, as are girls with tattoos whose placement appears to have been chosen with a dart and a turntable (ie just random tattoos on random areas). Full-back tattoos are another big no, I don't like to feel like I'm boning the sistine chapel, and anything on the head/face/neck is pretty much a flashing neon "this person has issues" sign. Other than that, I'm pretty much fine with whatever.

Also, people with tattoos that have half of it on each person, or ones that are matching but don't have deep significance - your platoon's emblem is great, two girls with matching wrist tattoos who got them because "omg sooooo cute!", not so much.

Similar story with piercings - if she's got them anywhere other than her ears, nose, and possibly navel, yeah. Also, having more than 4 pieces of metal in your face (apart from the ears) is generally a good indicator.

Edit: Also, tattoos aren't really an indicator of risk-seeking behaviour when they have personal significance to you - memorials, unit insignia, important dates, things that were pivotal to making you who you are today, that sort of thing.

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Of course they don't have a sense of long term planning. Because they have no clue that the nautical star they get on their upper titty at 24 is gonna look like a scraggly starFISH at 44.

Fuck it, I should get some tattoos. Ones where I would use low-quality ink on purpose so they can be easily removed with a laser.

I'll need to come up with some designs that are meant to look good with blurry edges as well as sharp ones.

EDIT: Get the tattoos so that easy chicks become easier. Then remove them later.

This makes a lot of sense, but I think two caveats may apply to the point about tattooed chicks being less attractive.

1. Tattoos are a good indicator of things men may want for hookups. Damaged and risktaking can make for a way more interesting fling, which produces and association between tattoos and "freaky" girls.

2. Well placed tats can occasionally be attractive as art. I personally find a well-done sleeve beautiful not as a social symbol but in it's own right. It's decoration just like a necklace, but to a much higher degree. That said, this goes for extremely artistic tats in "acceptable" places.

Those are basically just summaries of why guys are sometimes drawn to tats, though. I realized reading this that even done as art, significant tatting would hugely turn me off for a LTR.

I am never comfortable with thinking that any one sign equals problems. It can lead to lazy thinking and get you caught up much more than you would know otherwise. The only way to get to know a girl is to get to know a girl. Besides, you could just, ya know, talk to a woman. Most bad women have no problem identifying themselves if you think about it.

I'm actually attracted to girls with tattoos. Given they would be hot without them.

well that makes a lot of sense, seeing as I was just dating a tattoo artist, so many of these things are true.

fuck

she was the first girl I dated with more than one or two tattoos, she had a chest piece and a sleeve, and her legs were covered. It initially seemed a bit intimidating, but after a while, its the same insecure girl underneath a tough looking facade.

And the constant desire for attention, her instagram profile was constantly flooded with guys complimenting her tattoos, and her going out of her way to find other tattooed people to compliment her while we were dating.

I'd say she had #1, 2, 3 and 5 from that list, although the sex from #1 was fun :D

You keep using that word ("science"). I do not think it means what you think it means.

My sister and her co-ed volunteer group all got the same tattoo after they volunteered for two months during Katrina. I don't see how that makes her 'broken'.

Full disclosure: I think 99% of tattoos are awful, pointless and they downgrade the natural beauty of the female body.

Tattoos are one of the most trendy things of the past decade. Like every girl under the age of 25 has at least one.

Why do 99% of people get them?..... because they think they look cool. That is the main reason people get them and I dont think you can label the majority of young people as broken because of them. Its just a passing trend.

As for women covered in tattoos I agree that they are (at least mostly) broken. I've known a fair amount of girls that have lots of tattoos and they are usually (blatently)mentally fucked. They are mental wrecks. They fuck everyone. They end up dating people and cheat constantly(this often validated because their equally tattooed up BF cheats on them all the time.)

I dont know if it is just coincidence, but I would wager to say the more/larger tats girls have the more likely they end up being blatantly fucked in the head. I havent dealt with one exception. Guys with tats on the other hand seem to be on a normal mix of characters.

I like a really well done sleeve though, as long as the chick has no problem admitting that it was done for purely aesthetic reasons.

Maybe Im just weird, but I think some tats are hot as fuck, just like I like short hair on the right girl.

I think this depends on the size, location, personal significance, and amount of tattoos a chick has. One of my plates has three very small black tattoos on her person and she does not seem to be any more broken (strong family life, good relationship with her dad, low partner count, well educated) than any other chick I've messed around with.

Would I plate a chick that was covered from head to toe in colorful ink? Hell no, but 3 small black tats with personal significance don't bother me.

I find tattoo to be attractive on a girl.

What's risky about getting a tattoo?

Having a plate with tattoos keeps her at plate status. I already have to deal with guys hitting on them in public, at times in front of me. I know how easy it is to approach a girl with exposed tattoos. It's an easy opener (haha). I've had guys tap me and say "hey what's her tattoo mean?" I look at them almost disgusted and say "hell if I know, I don't like them."

**Edit, man did you see those Facebook comment? Like 5000 women, couple white knights and guys sticking up for their girlfriends tattoos. Almost everyone accusing the author of being bitter, dumped by a tattoo'd girl, and TA-DA "small dick" accusations. Guess we should be able to judge them on the size of their tits after all.

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I'd say that men are attracted to tatted women, not in spite of the tattoos, but because it signals that the women are low-class trash who will put out the minute they get an excuse.

Source: http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2009/02/bonecrker-19-tattoos-and-piercings.html

The second biggest influence on the Manosphere.

When I was younger, I was exclusively attracted to the chicks with tattoos, glasses (ever since Lisa Loeb, bless her heart), wild and crazy attitudes. I'm still attracted to that type, but it's not as unique as it was in the past.

Nowadays I see some women with tattoos, especially in the "Off Limit Areas" such as the chest, breast, or stomach and even if the girls are gorgeous I'm immediately turned off. Almost nothing is more disgusting to me than the redneck bullshit of having a name or a rose (blech...) tattoo'ed on a titty.

I will admit that the risk-seeking behavior is a bit of a turn on for me and your typical RP, LTR material chick is far and away too bland, too boring. It's like with smoking, I prefer girls who smoke since they seem less discriminatory about what they put in their mouths.

But hey, I don't want kids.

I still love girls in glasses though...

Lets talk about the beta males who get as many visible tattoos as possible.

Just screams "trying to fit in".

Funny cuz I think probably 90% of tatts are garbage, yet Im a tattood bro myself.

Tattoos are seen as edgy because the guys who used to get them were prisoners, gang members, soldiers, and other generally tough guys who had to stick together and mark themselves as part of the same team.

Having a tattoo wasn't socially acceptable back then so you had to have a good reason to get one, and the usual reason was to show others that you were not to be messed with.

Even though it is socially acceptable to get a tattoo now, people still associate tattoos with being a badass.

As tattoos became a trend, women started jumping on the bandwagon. The smarter and more socially aware girls probably stay away from tattoos because they realize that guys are generally not attracted to the "badass motherfucker" quality in women.

I saw an article by one women who talked about how painful laser treatment is. Her tattoo didn't come out how she wanted and she had to get it removed. She said that the removal process is infinitely more painful and expensive than getting the tattoo. This is a 50+ year old woman - she should know better than to be messing around with tattoos.

These days there are even more extreme body modification trends such as scarification, human branding (NSFW), corneal tattooing, corset piercing, tongue splitting, 3D-printed implants, and body suspension. These can be seen as an edginess arms race where people with no other redeeming characteristics compete to see who can have the most extreme body.

If this trend continues, people will be amputating fingers, ears, arms, and legs to be fashionable (and, of course, donating their limbs to someone who actually wants to have a fully-functioning body). We'll start seeing RoK articles about how you should avoid dating voluntary amputees.

Tattoo regret will pale in comparison to the regret of these more extreme body modifications as these people age and become wiser.

The worst are the obligatory small ankle or wrist tattoos that EVERY FUCKING GIRL gets in highschool/college.

Alternative girls might not be for everybody but at least they're fully committing to a coherent "look". But that random butterfly, flower or infinity symbol slapped on every girl's ankle is just a retarded, generic, unnecessary blemish on a woman's nude form.

In addition to all that I view the tats and piercing and strange hair colors as desperation. These are the girls with almost no personality and are boring so they do anything they can to bring attention to themselves. I think it's a lot more about projection like you said though.

Id still find her sexier with the tattoos depending on what they are, the quality, and the positioning. Now you cant turn an ugly girl sexy by slapping some tatts on her and I like untatted women as well but it usually gives them a +0.5-1 out of 10 based on the above factors.

only reason chicks looks sexier with tats because tats=dtf or they are super plain and makeup + interesting tats are the only thing they got going for them

Women find tattoos attractive, therefore they falsely believe tattoos are attractive.

I really don't think this works as a premise.

If women find tattoos attractive then they are attractive, to them. The only falsity is the subjective difference between the parties viewing the object. One’s idea of attractiveness does not trump an opposing one.

I don’t disagree with your overall assessment. Your argument however would be strengthened by removing inconsistencies.

Generally, tattoos appear trashy to me (not to say that the individual actually is trashy), aside from perhaps a WWII Navy veteran with an anchor on his arm, or a 17th century pirate with tattoos. But then, I'm old school and look down upon men with earrings and other jewelry. What I'm trying to say is that if you're going to paint your skin and wear jewelry, it's only cool if you've killed someone.

If you look at the most powerful men in the world, most of them do not have tattoos (at least visible), although I'm sure the trend is shifting. Regardless, I doubt that I will ever see a president of the United States with a Mike Tyson tattoo, an arm sleeves and a tongue ring. That would be cause for open rebellion.

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I have a couple women I know, who have tattoos, that I'm extremely attracted to. One of them in particular, shes fucking sexy as hell.

That's said, I would not date them but I most definitely would fuck them.

Tattoo's are like pseudo-risk taking. Like taking a risk for people who afraid to take REAl risk. Kind of like how people think attacking christianity is risky/rebellious when it's accepted and even encouraged in the mainstream and often have no consequences. That's why women are so into it.

And another thing. I hate how everyone shows off their godawful tattoos like a bunch of attention starved whores. Look lady, I don't give a shit that you have a tattoo of some shitty song lyrics from a shitty pop song to commemorate the fiery automobile death of your cousin.

Has anyone noticed almost all of the women in /r/gonewild have tattoos?

I don't recall seeing many without tattoos. Not that I was looking ...