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bemore_ 5y ago
Don't know what the difference is between a dildo and a pump. Attach them both to respective male and female dolls and voilà, "sex doll". I'd smash a doll with a fat ass than my hand over a thousand mega pixels any day. I mean, masturbation is relatively healthy. I'd give one to my son too, maybe he can educate himself about a womans body while he's young. Let's look at the positives for a second. People make fun of men wacking off but women are also out there rubbing themselves to sleep, at least they have toys.. so ungrateful.
xesup2 5y ago
A sexual robot is a masturbatory device for incels and men left alone by woman.
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Why a woman has to interfere between a man and his property?
That's like interfering between a gay and his lover, because his lover "imposes unrealistic standards on women". Absurd nonsense.
xesup2 5y ago
Those same feminists that defend abortion "because is the woman's right to decide on his body", oppose men's right to use his body in whatever way men want.
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FereallyRed 5y ago
"By declaring an object female they are the ones who are actually objectifying women."
They're womanifying objects.
The-Peter-Principle 5y ago
Except this is too logical. The feminists who stirred up a moral panic when this sexbot issue was brought up a few years ago presented a FEELZ argument, something like:
“Sexbots Will allow men to unshackle their dark natures and we are scared that they will then carry this (bad) behavior over to their relationships with real women which will be dangerous.”
But what about dildos!? I hear you cry....
To which the feminists reply:
“ that’s different because women are oppressed so that’s about exploration sand not power... therefore totally fine...”
Or some other nonsense.
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Whisper 5y ago
Locating logical flaws in female thinking is like finding a needle in a giant stack of needles.
The question we have to ask ourselves is what will happen with female-appearing sex robots?
Well, human beings are hardwired to be protective of women. This supersedes things like logical thinking. And, while a sex robot isn't a woman, and never will be, the whole point is for it to look and act like a woman.
And once it passes a certain threshold of resemblance, people will feel protective of it, regardless of whether this makes sense or not, because people are slaves to their instincts.
Pushing in the other direction will be a certain amount of economic pressure. Consider the porn industry, and the intensity of the demand for its product.
It will be interesting to watch the struggle between politicized human instinct and economic realpolitik.
xesup2 5y ago
And, while a gay man isn't a woman, and never will be, the whole point is for it to look and act like a woman.
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If that logic is true, then homosexuality should be banned, because it objectifies woman, imposing the impossible standard of a woman having to be like a gay man.
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The real problem is that feminists don't respect men's liberty, and his right to do whatever he wants with his property, even when it doesn't affect a third party, by pretending that woman's feelings have priority over a man right to his property, and his private liberty.
Whisper 5y ago
Women don't respect men's liberty.
This is because women don't respect liberty. They don't want to be free. They only care about being safe, happy, and comfortable. And thus they do not understand why anyone else wants to be free.
They think of men who want to be free as selfish, because they are voting to save the cute puppies from being sad. Don't you want to save the cute puppies? We only want to put the telescreen in your house to see if puppies are being abused. Why do you object? Do you have something to hide? Are you a puppy abuser?
Women will happily consent to any sort of violation of their autonomy, privacy, or dignity so long as it doesn't inconvenience them. And they will be perfectly happy to consent for others as well, because totalitarianism is the only thing they understand.
rockstarberst 5y ago
I cannot pinpoint where or when the war began, but it's been waged and it's been raging for the past several decades.
Modern society has dubbed anything remotely "masculine" as toxic, and as feminism turned from "equality" to straight up "man hating," the War on Men began. The Future is Female, after all.
The "War on Women" was simply to prime everyone for this next battle. The biggest war crime in the War on Men? Being a male. There is a straight up assault being launched on one half of the population. That's why there's a Red Pill, right?
Most people aren't even paying attention.
But some have capitalized on the opportunity. Cue: Sex dolls.
Maybe it's part of MGTOW, or maybe it's just a solution for the incels. Perhaps it's a big fat middle finger to women like Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii who said, "I just want to say to the men of this country, just shut up..."
For all the fingers the feminists point at men, they fail to realize the 3 pointing right back at themselves. They fail to realize that their own hostility has created a space for sex dolls to exist in the first place. They fail to understand why a man would choose the company of an inanimate, albeit feminine, object over a real woman because the "feminist woman" has become repulsive to the masculine man that he'd now rather be with a feminine counterfeit.
Sex dolls are weird. And kinda messed up. I don't really know that they're the answer anyone is really looking for. But when I take a look around, I can absolutely see how this happened.
Is Sweden's "feminist government" in for a rude awakening?
kagetsuki32 5y ago
Sex doll are only the beginning. AI + android + artificial womb + ovaries created through dna manipulation, will create a world where biological women never been so invisible.
Chainsawninja 5y ago
Read the culture of critique.
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Fake dicks are allowed under the purview of clause “Woman needs man like (exhibit not shown: fish with bicycle).”
But make vagina substitutes, and the war horns sound (who knew you could queef so loud)?
Make no mistake: this is not about female objectification, but female circumvention. Why would I tether myself to you, my darling everlasting love, when I could simply fuck a big rubber replica of Neri Oxman (or, for our sad Gen-Zers, likely a replica of Alita: Battle Angel, but whatever).
My main question is: how will they attempt to draw the line at what threatens their (soon-to-be) sandy caverns? My hand? Because I checked, and I still haven’t grown any hair on my palms.
RedBigMan 5y ago
Sex Dolls are a side effect of Triggerlypuff type land whales who think they deserve a men like they see in the movies when they're pushing 400 pounds.
Sorry to say ladies but do you see any women that look like you on his arm in the movies or on the red carpet? Nope... Guess what I got bad news for you...
largepaycheckaddict 5y ago
I honestly never thought of it this way. I always viewed the man’s use of the sex doll as an example of him having no ability to get a chick in the sack. But yeah I totally see your point here.
It’s sort of like PMO and hiring an escort too. It becomes a more satisfying way of satiating that “love” desire in us and not have to tolerate the woman’s company aside from sex.
Feminism really is ruining women out here. They’re starting to become very obnoxious and unbearable to be around. Especially the ones you see in large liberal cities like NYC and LA. There really is so many crazy / very low quality wife material the bar is so fucking low.
And I say wife material cause why the fuck else would you only commit to 1 woman.
yomo86 5y ago
A quick fuck with a clean doll and some VR goggles seems a better option to me than trying to seduce a 4/10 in a bar when the next work day already looms. As many men already put it, it is the better and cheaper offer for cheap, note not good, sex.
lvanden 5y ago
Can you show some studies of women hating men and not irrational anecdotes?
cryptonaut414 5y ago
Future is female my ass. If anything, the past has been female. Men are starting to wake up. It might take a few more generations for this movement to gather steam but the future is definitely not female unless we succumb to weakness and are literally castrated.
bsutansalt 5y ago
In nations that have imported incompatible cultures such as Sweden, their future isn't female or feminist. It's going to be Muslim. The damage is already done with the number of people they've brought in combined with reproductive rates between the different demographics. At this point it's just a matter of time.
helenvsgladys 5y ago
I’d like to see that turn into a catchphrase. “The past was female.”
empatheticapathetic 5y ago
Things are moving a lot quicker than you think.
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
One of my biggest concerns, however is the increase in TRP extremists.
I'm seeing some people praising phsycopathy, woman hating, outright racism etc. in the comments.
Newbies in this sub are talking too much without actually understanding TRP principles. You know.. kids come to this sub, read a couple lines and send links to girls to seek validation.
Eventually they will out number us and this movement will corrupt or radicalize.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
TRP is not a movement to save society.
TRP is a toolbox that you use to save yourself.
odaklanan_insan 5y ago
Do you claim that, subscribers don't have any effect on this sub, or how it's presented?
cryptonaut414 5y ago
Yes im of the same mind. However, i see TRP as the first step. Once the quality of the nation’s men improves, these men will naturally seek positions of power, be it in business or government.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
For their own benefit.
Make no mistake, we're well past the "climbing" phase of our society's development. People are well-fed and prosperous to the point where they've forgotten that it was the incentivizing of men's efforts that made us successful in the first place.
It takes a crisis to get people to respect and reward competition. I would wager that the only thing that will turn western civilizations around is a good old-fashioned hunger-driven uprising... just as soon as women (and their useful idiots) are done voting us into poverty.
And at that point, what is your civilization but a bunch of hungry and angry people fighting for control of the crumbs?
kagetsuki32 5y ago
How are the angry people going to take down the army of terminator the corporate elites will use as soldiers? The time of the rebellions style french revolution is coming to an end.
cryptonaut414 5y ago
We seem to share quite a grim outlook on the future for the western world. I can see what the future holds for us by looking at history.
When this civilization fails, which by my eyes it already has, the world will continue as it has done innumerable times in the past.
There will come a time when actions will be held in higher regard than simple politics. At this point, i believe, is where the strong will take over.
Of course, this is considering the people are willing or inadvertently forced to cease in this wild consumerism, which has caused us to be enslaved by our own desires.
Either way, i am looking out for me and my family. The rest of the world can go erupt in flames. After all it is their choice.
DayGameChirality 5y ago
That's BS. TRP is a movement. For what, I don't give a shit, but this sub is as ideological as it could be.
RP isn't. Differentiating between TRP (this particular sub and its manosphere politically interested offsprings) and RP, the core toolbox.
xesup2 5y ago
TRP is nothing but seeing reality as it is, without filters and sugarcoating, either is likable or not.
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Is not a movement.
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MRA have political objectives.
PUAs have personal objectives.
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They use TRP as starting point, but they are a different thing.
DayGameChirality 5y ago
The Red Pill is the sub. That's how it's called.
Red Pill is the red pill itself.
Whisper 5y ago
1 submitted topic in TRP. (Removed.) 15 comments in TRP. Wants to tell us all about what TRP is and isn't.
You ain't talkin' serious, son.
DayGameChirality 5y ago
The only proof required to safely say it doesn't matter what quality the content is, but what mood the mods are in on this sub. Content was well received, yet removed.
It ain't my first acc, pap.
chazthundergut 5y ago
The war between sexes has been going on for as long we've existed as a species. And it will continue on long after the extinction of TRP and feminism.
Here's what happens when you've really taken the Red Pill.
You realize that it's all bullshit. All these cultural challenges to masculinity are just part of the Matrix of society.
But you don't have to let it control you. You can grab your nuts and be a masculine man anyways, and not give one fuck about feminists.
I still manspread on the train. I still slap women's asses. I still interrupt and say offensive shit and offend people.
Women are so desperate to be around confident, masculine men you wouldnt believe it.
Stop taking women and culture so seriously. They dont want strong masculine men? Be one anyways
SlyGradient 5y ago
Point awarded by EC request.
zboo1h 5y ago
"stop taking women and culture so seriously."
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Except they have the government with an army of armed police backing them up if you fuck up and a woman decides she wants your shit because she "isn't happy".
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This isn't something that increasing your bench can solve.
chazthundergut 5y ago
Actually it is something that can be solved by increasing your bench... in a way.
It all boils down to your individual relationship with your woman. Which means it boils down to your frame.
Culture will never put the interests of (disposable) men over the interests of women.
Society will never be fair.
Women will never accept responsibility.
So what are you gonna do about it?
zboo1h 5y ago
I'm going to admire your positive outlook and never, ever get married. I'm also going to increase my bench.
chazthundergut 5y ago
I agree about never getting married- it's a lose/ lose for men
vandaalen 5y ago
This guy gets it.
♂
SlyGradient 5y ago
Done.
Imperator_Red 5y ago
How can there be any doubt left in the average person's mind that the feminists' position is to ban anything they don't like and to use all the levers of state that they possibly can to advance their interest? It's so obvious at this point that they aren't even hiding it anymore. The average person is such a docile brainless sheep.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
If feminists could really make any decision, why would they stay silent about islam and support muslim immigration.
RPAlternate42 5y ago
"because those aren't real feminists... Feminists are about equality."
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FereallyRed 5y ago
Who tells you what the chunk of rubber you're fucking has to look like?
Gonna gloss over the fact you've decided to fuck a couch cushion.
But who in their right mind thinks this requires regulation?
If you want a "Jabba the Hut that was in a house fire" fake vag, then why the hell not?
You want a Steve Corell from the Office sex toy so you can fuck the boss in the ass, have at it.
You want a thalidomide toddler to tear the cunt out of, well, go at it.
They're hunks of silicone.
Anybody that has issues with that fact, well, it's not the fact they're jerking off into tupperware that's the foundational problem.
xesup2 5y ago
You can choose to be gay, instead of having a woman, but can't choose to have a doll instead of a woman.
Varsel 5y ago
Feminazis do not want any competition from fake pussy.....monopoly control is in their self-interest (same reason they try to stop prostition). Feminazis are hypocrites...they want their dildo and vibrators and whatever, but what is fair for the goose is not fair for the gander. Lastly, anything they can do to fuck over guys is a good thing, in these final days....before cameljockeys and sharia screws them good and royal.
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If I hadn’t made up my mind that I enjoy you, “thalidomide toddler” takes the fucking cake. So feel free to have your cake and fuck it too.
helenvsgladys 5y ago
It’s pretty telling, they’ve finally turned the corner and acknowledged that they want to limit any expression of male sexuality. Right now it’s just a handful of women yelling in Sweden, but this will catch on fast. Criminalization of all male sexuality is their endgame.
FereallyRed 5y ago
Won't even be able to stick a lit candle into your urethra and sing happy birthday.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
LMFAO let's start fucking with some heads and release a line of "body positive" sex robots that look like landwhales. Trigger feminists into eating themselves even faster.
"Do I cry objectification, or do I celebrate the acceptance of my fat fuck choices?"
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Whisper 5y ago
Then point out how they aren't selling, and watch them try to figure out who needs to be punished for this outrage.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Buzzfeed: "Male objectification values skinny objects over fat objects, and it hurts all women."
ENTP 5y ago
It's okay. The dominant alpha religion of Islam will take over their country, then they can have an actual "rape culture" to whine about
redpillschool Admin 5y ago
Take note on a few things here:
Feminists are always looking to remove power from men and give power to women in places they know men have the advantage. Women love powerful men. Why are they trying to establish power imbalances as taboo?
Secondly, if any of this hogwash is able to move forward (and in Sweden I wouldn't be surprised if it does), consider the precedent it sets of establishing definitions of legal power differentials between man.. and.. .. .. objects???? God save us all.
[deleted] 5y ago
The culture war is expanding. Power always wants to grow. I’ll post an article highlighting female on female/white on white sjw mob antics shortly.
Will it actually get to that point?
Am I insulated from the liberal cities where the soyboys and numales reign supreme to see this as a possibility? The men I deal with often fall under the happy wife happy life societal programming but don’t buy into the radical feminism line at all. The vast majority of the women don’t either. I’m a red flyover state. I expect that does make a difference. I certainly fell under some reddit propaganda before I unplugged. Even then, I personally scoffed at the radical feminists even in my bluest days.
The failed Kavanaugh kangaroo court (thank you Trump) has opened the eyes of many. However people have also seen the destruction that a sjw mob can bring upon people with much less power and resources. The conservatives/normies are just keeping their heads down at this point. There’s no system in place for the normies to lean on vs the sjw mob system that is quite effective. The sjw have built an effective machine for destruction.
I cannot predict where this culture war will end up. It certainly feels like it’s getting closer and closer to a major snapping point. I’m still on the fence whether putting my hat in the ring will actually make a difference (keeping my head down as well) vs gtfo when I can. Always left with more questions than answers these days.
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Sputnik is a propaganda site funded by Russia and that everything you read there is written with the intent to weaken Europe and Americans via ingroup fighting and damaging trust amongst us.
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CptFizz 5y ago
Imagine the butthurt when artificial wombs come.
ratpoison987 5y ago
Shit. Artificial dicks exist. Equality is a bitch
Imperator_Red 5y ago
All this sex robot and artificial womb talk is a red herring and robots will never replace women. The real bombshell that no one is talking about is the male birth control pill. If that ever gets mainstreamed it is an absolute game changer. Total power reversal.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
You underestimate technology.
scissor_me_timbers00 5y ago
Eh I don’t think either will be huge. I agree with you that the sex doll thing is a red herring. It’ll just be a novelty and a solution for a few MGTOWs and incels. It can’t replace women broadly speaking.
The male birth control pill will give men some power but I don’t think it will be that enormous.
AwakenedSovereign 5y ago
VasaglGel/RISUG is not available for purchase anywhere - even India. At least, not to the average Joe. Can't even sign up for the trial unless you are an Indian male living in the target neighborhoods.
But you're right. Give men the power to control their reproduction and the game will change.
Sexbots and robobrothels will change the game too though.
Think about it. All the betas who will go to those brothels or buy a toy. Alphas will still spin plates like we have since the dawn of time. So what?
So what is that the women get less validated. Betas aren't as desperate. They have a way to cope. They don't chase as hard or promise the world to women they've barely met.
Male Birth Control & Affordable Robot Sex. Control of the SMP would shift greatly towards men again.
RPAlternate42 5y ago
Vasogel exists but is inconveniently not allowed in the US.
There is actually a clear present danger to the population if both sexes are on birth control. As much as no one wants to admit it, for every "planned" child there are multitudes of unplanned children, oops children, "I'm pretty sure I took it" children, etc.
Right now women are on birth control and babies still are born all the time by accident, but growth in Western countries is slow. Add in male birth control and now the chances of two oops's happening together is slimmer.
I can see how they'd be against it on those grounds.
But I don't think they are seeing it in those grounds.
Edit: to be clear - I don't believe a conspiracy exists, or even a suppression. I'm saying an argument exists against it and that the product is also not available.
Capitalism will reign supreme in this: if it makes money it will be on the market... And there is a market for it.
kagetsuki32 5y ago
If the draft for women could pass, then the male birth control pass too.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Feminists have "whoopsied" in their public statements more than once, often stating very bluntly that male contraception would take the "power of childbirth" away from women.
"Accidental" pregnancy is yet another strategy women lean on to secure provisioning.
Your_Coke_Dealer 5y ago
This is bullshit conspiracy theorizing. Vasalgel* is in medical studies and trials, barely at the beginning of development. Getting through those studies and trials, and bringing a drug to market, are really fucking expensive. As something which gets injected through your nutsack into your vas deferens, it absolutely better be tested as safe. And if the drug maker calls it reversible, it better be shown to meet that criterion as well.
There’s no grand conspiracy to prevent population decrease; a lot of places have way too many people as it is. Coincidentally one of those places, India, is also doing human trials of RISUG, a similar but not identical product to Vasalgel. It works, but they’ve yet to know all of its side effects or exactly how it works. And they’re not even done with those trials; they’ve been working on it for like 20 years.
Ireallyamtheprize 5y ago
Many birth control pills for women have decreased libido as a side effect. It is often argued in mainstream journalism that while this was acceptable for women in the 60s, it is not acceptable for men today.
We should do a poll.
Two_kids_in_a_coat 5y ago
reminds me of this.
MentORPHEUS Endorsed Contributor 5y ago
This presents one of those situations where the "opposition" behave so absurdly the best response becomes hearty laughter. The more agitated the proponents of legislation become, the harder the laughter in response.
Personally I don't understand all the hoopla around sex robots. Anyone who sleeps with an actual woman knows an artifact won't hold a candle to the experience. The human connection represents one of the most important aspects of sex to me; as a teen I couldn't even continue masturbating if my hand fell asleep. I think they'll only ever become a niche market. That makes the hand-wringing over them particularly amusing to me.
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boybubble 5y ago
Shouldn't this be the feminist dream of men not interacting with women anymore.
ShavedApel 5y ago
That's not enough, they want you to be unhappy like them too.
Trphello 5y ago
Why can't men have sex bots? Feminists imported theirs from Sudan
trpblacklime 5y ago
"sex dolls reinforce the view that women are objects and normalise men's violence against women" I think it will actually accomplish the opposite but to an extreme extent which is actually what the feminist do not want. The moment that the majority of beta opt out of the dating market to fuck sex dolls is the moment women lose and in turn humanity. It's like that saying about women hating to be cat called but if all cat calling were to stop they'd be devastated.
Shekelberg-Goldstein 5y ago
All going according to plan goyim
farendsofcontrast 5y ago
Shut it down the goyim know