Why is there an assumption that if you understand this material that you become an abusive, misogynistic dickhead?

Because you are complicitly agreeing with a community whose very existence undermines the gynocentric status quo of feminine primacy. By asserting the masculine viewpoint as primary, or even, a valid counterpoint you automatically become a threat. The hive mind rationalises your arguments as "backwardly patriarchal" and therefore, irrelevant, bigoted and out-dated. Then it gets spun as "people like you are the reason feminism exists" when actually, the reason you looked for a place like this is exactly because of the effects feminism has had on you and those around you.

Despite the damage feminism causes to developed societies across the globe, a lot of people are personally invested in it due to their own psychiatric problems. Others are not staunch SJWs/activists and many may not even identify as feminist, but due to the institutional influence of feminism they will embody lots of feminist norms and values. Particularly, those of you with a bachelors degree or higher, have been drowned in feminist propaganda. I find the more educated people are, the further from reality they tend to be. Not because they are stupid, but because they have spent many years in an institution which pushes forth feminist norms and values, they become indoctrinated. Effectively, most of the population whether they know it or not, agrees with the idea that the genders are equal, but that we must also artificially elevate women and give them special privileges.

So what's the reasoning for this you may ask? In an attempt to be concise it's kind of like the concept of white guilt, except it's for ALL MEN. Race card does not trump GENDER card. The way institutions are biased towards women today is due to the idea that men owe women due to the supposed barbaric nature of men pre-feminism in essence, it's the construction of a "male guilt" and women getting an easy ride today is some kind of reparation for that. That's how they justify their benevolent sexism. Feminism in its current form is all about maintaining double standards stemming from traditionalism that benefit women whilst destroying the double standards from our civilizational past which benefit men. It is ultimately, the restriction and demonisation of male freedom, expression and sexuality to make way for completely unmitigated freedom of sexuality and expression for females.

Instead of helping men and women understand each other better in spite of our differences and helping us cohese into a strong, somewhat moral and productive society, feminism encourages and thrives off facilitating decadence. Using newspeak like "liberation" to define the decadence it encourages when said "liberty" is really just a positive spin on "fucking anarchy." If you know your history, feminism reared it's head in roman civilization just before it fell. There appears to be a cycle where a civilization becomes so prosperous that it can afford to entertain notions such as feminism, only for those same notions to contribute significantly to the eventual downfall of the civilization, usually by lowering the birth rate and not incentivising beta men to work hard for the tax base (you get a return to harems, rather than monogamous nuclear families like you do under traditional Christian-based monogamy.)

To these people, the feminine viewpoint must be hegemonic and they don't care how many young men, girls with daddy issues and grown men that this feminine primacy adversely effects. As far as they are concerned, the masculine viewpoint is backward, barbaric, misogynistic and unworthy of listening to. They are oafs, they are bigoted, they are close-minded and they often have a personal vested interest in maintaining the feminist false narrative, some through product of having invested so much personal time into the ideology, others due to prevailing business interests. Unfortunately the generations feminism has tainted are irreversibly tainted because once someone is indoctrinated by an ideology it's very hard for all but the most intelligent of the pack to come out of it unbrainwashed or otherwise "mentally free" or "lucid."

An example is say, old people in Germany. A lot of them will think Hitler was a great guy and still hate the English because of remembering WW2 from their childhood or whatever. They have some investment in Nazism. But if you ask a young German today what they think of Hitler and the English they'll say Hitler is bad, English are "fine" or whatever. Completely different ideas, same people. Nazism didn't get to touch the newer generations like it did those born around the, and pre-ww2 period. The same goes for feminism. Gen X and gen y (gen y = millennials) are pretty fucked when it comes to feminism, most people will be life-long invested in the idea men and women are fundamentally equal despite the reality they are not.

Feminism is very much concerned with controlling and policing speech, it's become a very Orwellian ideology since it's inception as a simple civil rights movement. The fact we try to circumvent their control of gender relations is an affront to their personal beliefs and threatens the narrative by bringing it under scrutiny, something feminism doesn't fare well under (scrutiny.) Feminism requires blind faith, like many ideologies, and is intolerant of being alerted of it's own hypocrisy, weakness, dysfunctionalism and etc. Also to be clear, when I say "we try to circumvent their control of gender relations" we achieve this through indirect methods. We do this by claiming our masculinity and autonomy through hyper-independence. With independence it is difficult to be controlled. We are not a movement, we are a personal philosophy. We do not "fight for change" through political activism or a coup d'etat, we don't try to "change society to fit our needs" (the feminist model) but instead we introspect and make improvements to ourselves so that we may thrive in spite of society's support (or lack thereof.)

Feminism, like many a social ideology, is narcissistic and irrationally arrogant. It doesn't even consider it may possibly be wrong, or flawed and it will not allow itself to be undermined at any cost regardless of any negative outcomes that occur as a result of that. Of course like many ideologies which started with a rational and noble seeming ideal but morphed into faith-based cults, if you don't toe the feminist line you will be ostracised from society and people will say horrendous things about you because they don't like you. Because you are "one of them" and not "one of us." You are not a person to them. You are an "other." And as history has taught us that if you are considered "an other" (witch burnings) then you are not welcome in society.

If you tried to build a church in Saudi Arabia they'd probably chop your head off. Well being red pill in a feminist country is that equivalent. Witch hunting and doxxing galore. Which is why I never answer questions about my age or what I do for a job. It says I live in London on Twitter, that's it. 12 million people there including the metro, have fun finding me. For your own sake, don't post any personal information. Without the internet a platform such as this probably wouldn't even be possible and feminism would have absolute domination rather than a majority. Whilst the internet has been great effective at spreading feminism, especially to poorer countries, it's also served as a medium for fighting against it. The internet, my friend, is truly beautiful and we should all be thankful that we got to live through it's inception and see first hand just what it can do for us as a species. The internet is the best source of free information and freedom of expression to ever exist.

It is because of the internet you have the chance to read things which don't fall within the realm of "political correctness" but things which are also outside that closed stringently moderated bubble of opinion. Political correctness to me is just a code word for "views, opinions, language usage and beliefs which fall within a spectrum of pre-determined institutional acceptability." The changes to the language, calling normal people "cis" and all this shit has Orwellian undertones. Read 1984 if you haven't. And if you read it pre-red pill, read it again for additional insight.

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You know, in our society it is generally acceptable that sex is a resource that men "buy" and women "sell". Therefore, most of the women have sex within snap of the finger (whether they are attractive or not), while almost all men have to "pursue" them and treat them like fucking princesses in order to get access to the pussy.

And this world order is for women comfortable as fuck. They bang basically whoever they want, they are constantly adored by at least a couple of men while having benefits from this.

Men from the red pill show the middle finger and do what they want. They overcome these rules and lead a happy life despite what society thinks.

And women are rebellious about this, because they want to 'defend' this comfortable way things are.

Men are having sex for free? Men are leading happy life?! What the fuck, this is outrageous!!! We have to do something with this as quickly as possible!

This is more or less how I see it.

Excuse me if this post sounds like bullshit in some places, but my English is still far away from perfect and I'm tired.

Why does everyone assume we are abusive assholes?

Because we tell men...

• Get in shape
• Eat Healthy
• Socialize
• Don't take shit from people
• Stop pedestalizing pussy. There are over 6 billion pussies out there.
• Don't get oneitis. See above, plenty of pussy out there.
• Do not argue with women when they're emotional. Let them calm down before hitting them with logic so it'll process properly.

Hi. Long comment to follow.

Im old enough to remember feminism back when it was a new word that had to be explained when you mentioned it. This was the 70s. Everybody, women included, shit on the feminists at every opportunity. Everyone called them stupid, childish, socially deviant, trouble makers.

But they kept on pressing their point that women should have the same rights as men. And, year by year, group by group, individual by individual, the culture changed to accept it. Now equal rights is basically a pretty self obvious thing that most sane people think, " Yeah. Sure. Of course we should treat women as of equal value and rights as men."

I won't comment on what feminism has morphed into in the last 10 years, but i no longer can, in clear conscience, call myself a feminist anymore. I just call it "Psudo Feminism" and criticize it for its obvious faults. It seems to me that women are just adopting more and more of the shitty behavior that men have always been rightly criticized for.

What I've been noticing about "Redpill" culture or "Masculinism" is that it feels exactly like Feminism did in 1975 or so. Demonized, marginalized, laughed at, hated. I think 2015 is going to be a year of mens issues being treated with a bit more seriousness, just as feminism did 40ish years ago.

I just hope mens issues can keep something of a semblance of constructive positivity and not degenerate into women hating abusiveness. Thats what I've seen in some sections of psudo feminism toward men, where its equally wasteful of otherwise useful energy.

I hope our culture can come to some sort of understanding and respect for both genders, and all the queer folk in-between.

TLDR Feminism and Redpill both are getting the same treatment from society. Be good men.

seems terribly intellectually dishonest

It is, but that's how people operate when logic and reason are not on their side.

Some things thrown around here, whether as jokes or not, are blatantly abusive (don't keylog your girlfriends, folks). However, the difference is that the abusive and dumb things suggested by feminists just get a laugh, like all men needing to die or that PIV sex is de facto rape. So whereas most "masculinists" will just roll their eyes at the next stupid shit coming out of a feminazi's mouth, said feminazi will extrapolate even the most obscure, irrelevant poster as representative of "hatred" and all the other buzz words you hear from SJWs.

Crabs in a bucket.

They lack the courage to look the truth in the eye, and hate that we can. So if anyone dares display their emotional strength with their ability to handle truths, however unpleasant, then the crabs get together and verbally bludgeon you back down to their level so as not to feel inadequate themselves.

It's the same reason why religious people get "offended" when you discuss scientific facts that contradict their holy books. They can't accept that death is real because they lack the strength to accept it. So they hate you for your ability to face it.

Because people hate on those who believe in the truth they don't want to hear.

It's like fight club - you don't mention it. People are generally much more accepting of trp stuff if you don't mention them as such.

Reddit is a hive of pompous closed minded hypocrites masquerading as progressive intellectuals

Because TRP doesn't ignore truth for the sake of societal niceties, and it just so happens that the truth that TRP espouses runs directly against the feminist lies that have perverted much of our society for the past 40 years. Also, most people arent'y like you and don't prefer to make up their own mind about things.

Welcome to the community.

There is a short parable in a book that I own which, unfortunately, I cannot find online. To paraphrase:

A gentleman was sitting on a park bench, enjoying the day and feeding the birds when another man, dressed in a fine suit and appearing well-mannered stopped to ask if he might join the man.

After sitting down, the two began a lengthy and lively conversation on a variety of current affairs. The first man, utterly impressed with the second asked politely, "If you don't mind telling me, sir, what is your name?"

"Why, I am the Devil!"

"The Devil?!" exclaimed the first man, "You cannot be! For the Devil is nasty and grotesque, a horrible creature!"

"Ah," said the Devil, as he smiled, "You have simply been speaking to my detractors."

This seems terribly intellectually dishonest to me.

LOL

This is the nature of leftist thinking. Science is a wonderful tool for beating down ideas they wish to exterminate (Christianity for instance). It becomes "dangerous" and "cover for sexism and bigotry" when it is used to challenge leftist ideas.

Intellectual honesty isn't permitted within 1000 yards of their cherished beliefs.

My guess would be the talk about plate spinning how women are good for nothing except sex. That's certainly not the prevailing mentality. I have a friend who said to me "you subscribe to redpill"? as if it were a terrible thing. I tried to explain ultimately that it's about being a better man which leads to having a better and more fulfilling life.