I feel like she’s inviting me to make a move on her but I also feel like she’s trying to beta orbiter me. Can I have some help so I can actually get something by the end of the night?
Also, sorry for the double post, I’m trying to figure out if I get more responses on the forum or on the little chatroom
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kv2_0833 1mo ago
I prefer ignoring her trying to define it, just be clear in main place you're visiting and main activity and then do that and go do something else after. If she's into you she'll make excuses to see you for longer. Also wtf after "Now sir..." don't hit her up until a few hrs before plans to confirm... this is how you text a girlfriend lol
OPStolen 1mo ago
I’m trying to use “amused mastery” to deflect her saying we’re going out as friends. This is the first time in two weeks she’s ever double texted me and acted desperate to know where I’m taking her. I usually was describing in full detail where we’d go and what we’d do.
I actually don’t have any plan for tomorrow. I’m just trying to spend as little as possible to fuck.
But, I feel like it’s working out because she keeps asking what she should wear and where we’re going. I just told her I’d text her tomorrow because she quadrupled texted me asking if she should do makeup or wear something nice. I just said “wear what you think I wanna see. I’ll text tomorrow” and dropped it.
I was super afraid to do this because normally I detail everything I have planned out and say “are you okay with this”. In my beta mind I feel like an absolute slob but I feel like I’m finally doing the red pill thing and just leaving it open. She REALLY wants to know what we’re doing tomorrow.
She always calls me “sir” though because she told me she was a sub and that she’d suck my dick and let me hit but I acted Beta and told her I’d respect her decision to be friends.
I started reading the sidebar and taking notes on being vague and avoiding real answers. I texted her Wednesday and told her I’d take her out Sunday but I wasn’t going to text her again until Saturday to confirm she was coming. I’ve basically done a whole personality shift on her.
whytehorse2021 1mo ago
If I were her I'd want to know if I should dress formal, casual, etc. Anyway, if she tries to friend-zone you, use her for social circle game, preselection, etc. Have her play matchmaker to hook you up with her hot friends.
kv2_0833 1mo ago
"I usually was describing in full detail where we’d go and what we’d do."
"She REALLY wants to know what we’re doing tomorrow."
So don't tell her xD just be chill and do something fun
"I actually don’t have any plan for tomorrow" -> do something that's chill that you wanna do anyway, or go somewhere you've always wanted to go
To master amused mastery, you literally have fun. Like you don't fake it lmao. You literally look for fun and your own enjoyment in the situation you find yourself in.
dongking 1mo ago
Did you smash her yet or nah?
pofkaf 1mo ago
Looks like she will be a waste of time. Next her and move on.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
Same answer I gave you on the trp.red side of the site:
I see nothing wrong with your text game at all, except that you are wasting your efforts on a woman who is clearly not interested.
I'd next her and put that effort towards new prospects.
Anything less than a "fuck yes" should be regarded as a "fuck no".
Boosted_Arrow 1mo ago
Bro you're hilarious as fuck. I wanna hear from you how it turned out.
I don't know if she's a bad prospect per se or if she's just massively shit testing you, so I'd just see how it turns out.
The only thing I'd say: You could also just have said no, but getting a red bull from her is also a good compliance test, so not complete failure.
Testme 1mo ago
Bossing around somebody is disrespectful. It is especially disrespectful if you do not even know them very well. You have no relationship with this girl and are bossing her around. That is rude and disrespectful. Even if you did end up fucking her, it would still be bad because she would not be thinking well of you.
When she is suggesting going on the date as "friends", it just means she does not want to commit to any kind of sexual activity at this point. Blowing her off with gamey remarks did not help because she got the impression you were not taking her seriously.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
You should never let a woman think you take her seriously.
You know nothing, and 99% of your "advice" is blue-pilled garbage .
Next you'll be saying that it's important to communicate and be emotionally available.
Testme 1mo ago
Uh, well the dude got rejected by her and I strongly suspect that part of the reason was that he was disrespecting her and not taking her seriously. There is a difference between paying attention to a girl and being dependent on her. Just because you take her seriously does not mean you have to subordinate yourself to her.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
Read up on shit tests, especially the "agree and amplify" response.
The whole purpose of every tool for passing shit tests is to demonstrate to the woman that you do not take her seriously, and regard her as an overgrown child.
This particular dude in the OP was rejected before that text thread even started. She just isn't interested.
Testme 1mo ago
We don't know that. There is no information about whether these people have met in person before, had previous texts or whatever. If they have only just texted, then just assuming "she is not interested" is ridiculous, because what do you think the girl is going to do? Be like, "Oh, your texts are so great I want to jump into bed with you!!" Not every girl is a raging slut. If they met on an app or something, then it is completely normal for a girl to accept a date as "friends" before she knows the guy or has met him.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 1mo ago
Blue pilled to the core.
And evidently with zero experience with actual women.
I have had them show enormous interest before meeting in person. I've had them eating out of the palm of my hand. I've also been thoroughly rejected just like OP.
Once your experience a woman who actually wants you, nothing else will do. Trying to work your way out of the FriendZone just isn't worth your efforts, especially when there are so many other women out there.
Related:
Wait For It by Rollo Tommasi.
NAWALTing unironically. Blue pilled to the core.
They're all sluts; it's just a matter of degree and finding the ones willing to be slutty for you.
Testme 1mo ago
There is no matter of "degree". If a girl is monogamous or low n-count, then by definition she is not a slut.
I know there are a lot of guys (like yourself) on this forum who think all women are promiscuous and think that it is "RP" to have this belief. RP is about REALITY and recognizing how things really are (that why it is called "red pill"). It is simply untrue that most women have large numbers of sexual partners. Sure, if you hang out in bars and nightclubs, they do, but most women do not go to bars and nightclubs. Just one example: one of my neighbors (now a widow) was put into a convent as a girl, did not leave until she was 22 and did not have her first sexual experience until she was 26 years old when she had an affair for a year, then after him, she had no further sexual contact until she got married in her late 30s to an older man to whom she lived with faithfully until old age. So she had a grand total of 2 sexual partners and there many women just like her. You can also read all the "I am a virgin, how can I start dating" posts in reddit, many by women in their late 20s or even 30s. Here are some examples (but there are hundreds more): (25 years old) https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/17iv7i4/do_i_25f_tell_him_25m_that_im_a_virgin/ (29 years old) https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/pv85e2/virgin_waiting_for_marriage/ (20 years old) https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/qqj4np/do_i_need_to_disclose_that_im_a_virgin/ (26 years old) https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/je05g7/should_i_26f_tell_my_boyfriend_25m_the_truth/
mattyanon Admin 1mo ago
is she fucking you?
two ways to read her text.........99% it's LJBF
Gilles 1mo ago
I think your text game is fine, she just seems low interest. Amused mastery is ok, but she's giving tons of resistance. Your time is probably better spent on other prospects.
Lone_Ranger 1 1mo ago
Dude....
She has clearly said she is only looking for orbiters to do her favours and give her validation. You continuing to text this woman is mega beta.
The phrase 'text game' made me concerned, and then I clicked on the link (that didn't quite work, needed copy past) and my fears were confirmed.
Even day in every way I see that there is no such thing as 'text game'. once you are texting, you are in the female frame. At most, text is for logistics only. Time and place and thats it. Even that is dodgy. If you are getting pulled into text threads, you are in her frame.