Basically that ^ . I'll also put some of the messages here in case it helps you guys help me.
Her: Mhmm I'm not planning to cheat
Me: Neither am I
Her: But since I'm not planning to cheat so if your thinking abt making out or something like that then maybe we shouldn't meet up ^ _ ^
Me: I'm not planning anything
Me: You decide what we do silly
Her: Well :P
Her: Cuz there's actually nothing to do at my place
Me: There's me and you
Her: I think my roommate will be home too I'm not sure lol
Me: ever heard of chatting? It's quite the thing these days
Her: Okay then :P
Text continues about other random shit~
It's very obvious she likes me, I also found out she's only had 2 boyfriends(the current one being the second). She's 22 and I'm 20. She also said she might be shy and nervous when she's with me. That's all the information I could collect without making it look like a creepy questionnaire.
How should I go tomorrow? Extra confidence all in her face? What should I do?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: will update this with a new post tomorrow. Thanks for the advice lads.
despoticVeracity 8y ago
RemindMe! 1 day
fuccboi9000 8y ago
she's gonna take your organs and leave you in a bathtub full of ice, bro
swishandswallow 8y ago
She brought up the boyfriend to shift responsibility on to you, so when you fuck her it's your "fault" because you knew she was in a relationship. But she is going to fuck you. She's definitely going to make sure the roommate isn't there. If she's on Tinder and she's invited you over, then you're practically in her pants. Just keep escalating.
hrm0894 8y ago
Wow. Crazy how women think.
RedBigMan 8y ago
Exactly, she's looking for dat plausible deniability when her BF finds out other dudes have been laying pipe in his woman.
Also she's got a boyfriend and is on Tindr... she's looking to cheat. If not with OP then it'd be with some other Chad Thundercock.
Just remember, women who cheat on their men are going to be high drama and can't be any more than a plate... If she'll cheat with you, she'll cheat on you.
praguetologist 8y ago
^second. This guy is 100% correct.
bicepsblastingstud 8y ago
Clearly she's thought about cheating with you.
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
She was on tinder with a boyfriend. She's looking to cheat with the right guy. Anything she says is shit test material only.
The roommate may cause her to ramp up her anti-slut defense. Make sure you isolate her away from that situation before doing anything.
windowkicker 8y ago
If you go over install SVR Pro if you use android and record the whole thing. The amount of fake rape cases is too much to risk.
kingofpoplives 8y ago
THIS
Plus the fact she is letting a random from Tinder come straight over her house for the first meet.
As long as you can disarm her token resistance she'll be DTF.
druganswer 8y ago
Can't go to her house if roommate is there... she needs plausible deniability and her getting reamed in the next room isn't that deniable...
if anyone finds out about this it's going to be like "i thought tinder was just to make new friends" so... you can't have the roommate involved at ALL if you want to fuck
kingofpoplives 8y ago
This all depends on her relationship with the roommate. It's entirely possible two of them could laugh together about that time she invited that cool guy off tinder to cuck betabux.
The fact she is inviting OP to her place shows she likely does not care if roomate thinks she's a cheater.
druganswer 8y ago
that's true.. if they're the ultra slutty party girl BFF type you probably can actually turn this into a threesome situation with a little skill.
redditzoro 8y ago
This is where I might need some help with initiative. She seems super shy since I'm guessing it's only because she's had two boyfriends which is why I think going full-on-sexual might not work. Any ideas?
whoops_fap 8y ago
Do something to make her feel the tingles then go in to kiss her, escalate.
kingofpoplives 8y ago
Not so. Because she is passive, she NEEDS you to be the initiator. You need to be somewhat tactful about it, but that is what she wants.
So get sexual with her. She'll put up some resistance. Back off for a bit so she feels comfortable. Then initiate again, taking it a bit farther. She may put up resistance again. Back off again. Repeat the cycle until sex, or if it gets obvious it isn't gonna happen that night just leave.
redditzoro 8y ago
got it, thanks!
floppymammarygland 8y ago
lol @ 2 BFs
rebuildingMyself 8y ago
At the same time
night-addict 8y ago
I have no advice, but you're good with shit tests. Keep it up.
KaribouLouDied 8y ago
No honor in what you're doing. But she obviously wants to cheat. It shouldnt be too hard.
[deleted] 8y ago
Two boyfriends... but she's fucked about 27 dudes
tepper2 8y ago
Girl with "boyfriend" matches with another dude on Tinder, mentions cheating and making out. You think she wants to play Scrabble? She will absolutely cheat on him and she's looking for any opportunity.
Go in there and disregard him completely. Don't bother entertaining conversation about him. And if you do f-close, keep it in the back of your mind that this girl will always be a cheater, and should never be upgraded past plate.
In your situation, I'd treat her like a cumdumpster for a couple weeks and cut her off completely at the first sign of shit testing, because she's demonstrating a severe lack of value beyond a warm hole.
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tepper2 8y ago
This isn't a spectator sport, you risk injuries on the field when you play the game.
forgetful_storytellr 8y ago
That's hilarious, I'm stealing it.
Vityazz 8y ago
Is on Tinder.
Has a boyfriend.
Invites you to her place.
"I'm not planning to cheat."
Okay.
File under: 'Shit Test 101' . This seems pretty straightforward, and unless it's all a ruse for her to murder and eat you, the only possibly way you will leave without getting your dick wet is if you royally fuck up. Seduction, at its simplest level, is about just that: not fucking up. The PUA community and, to a lesser extent, TRP have a habit of overcomplicating something that we've been doing pretty well with for thousands of years. But the difference between our grandfathers' time and today's age of emasculation is that the protocols of sexual attraction have been rewritten by women.
OK, to the matter in hand. I find it hilarious that she throws down the good ol' "I'm shy" line, though is magically able to muster up the courage to invite a random guy off the Internet back to her place, most likely asking her roommate to leave in the process, to actively cheat on her boyfriend. Shy, my arse. If she shit tests you on this, simply agree/disagree and amplify and/or use amused mastery.
Examples:
"I'm shy, too. I've only ever kissed one girl", said with a shit-eating grin.
If she mentions anything about sex: "Who said anything about sex? I'm here to bake cookies with you." Again, say it with a grin.
"Your roommate is out? I see, I get it. I'm stranger and you want to take advantage of me? I'm almost shocked. Almost."
That said, it is important that you do not get too hung up on examples. The message that you give off is what's important. Do your job; that is, lead the interaction, and keep it friendly enough at first then sexulise the conversation. It's obvious what you're both there for, so make it so. If you notice any attempt at a shit test, reframe it and fire it straight back at her. Agree/disagree and amplify, and make her look like the one who is pushing for it. You do this, and women are naturally going to 'push for it' after a certain amount of time, and initiate intimacy and sexual activity with you no matter what. It's their job, after all. Just like it's our job to approach and escalate, it's their job to push for commitment.
Have fun, OP.
redditzoro 8y ago
Best advice in here yet. Thanks a lot man, will update tomorrow!
[deleted] 8y ago
You should have replied "allright I will come to your place but we are not having sex". It left her wondering about your intentions, plays with her insecurities (he doesn't like me??). Works wonders.
But do not tell her you will do what she chooses, do not ask her to lead!
Do as usual :
isolate
escalate
"I have a boyfriend", "I know, we shouldn't be doing this"
redditzoro 8y ago
fuck dude hahaha I laughed with that last one, thanks for the help! :D
da1inchpunch 8y ago
don't be a cunt. Pretty simple.
NickCiufi 8y ago
Hooking up with chicks that don't want to cheat is a good way to get yourself accused of rape. I'd hard next.
1NV0K3R 8y ago
Alright. I was in this situation before.
GO SLOW. ESCALATION IS KEY. She is not going to want to jump your dick right away. But cuddling, heavy petting, find those erogenous zones that make her breath shallow and her back arch.
I had this shy little nymphet who had an LDR beta bucks and we fucked like rabbits, but she was slow on the uptake because "muh boyfrien" but it was clear as day the way she looked at me she wanted the D.
mordanus 8y ago
Yes she is. Why do you think she's on tinder? She is shit testing you to see how you respond.
and
You just showed her that you are weak. You let her have the control in this and the attraction went down.
If she wasn't hoping to get with you in a physical way why would she say that? Here's the thing. Women don't plan on cheating. They play stupid so that they can put all the responsibility onto the man. It's the man's responsibility to initiate and so it's his responsibility if she cheats. It is her way of feeding the hamster.
Please get the word "creepy" out of your vocabulary. Creepy means a man who is initiating but the woman doesn't find attractive.
sixtysecondmonk 8y ago
Nah OP played it right. There's plausible deniability for both of them. This way "it just happened" seems much more valid. She's obviously wanting to fuck she just needs to be able to say, "it wasn't my fault".
Only thing I'd change is leave off the "you decide what we do".
lolwwww 8y ago
Behave as usual. if the boyfriend topic comes up:
-but I have a boyfriend!!
-yeah, me too (and continue escalating)
or
-we all have our own flaws
worked for me before
redditzoro 8y ago
so how do I go on with the conversation? what exactly do you mean when you say "escalating"? Just keep building the conversation so it leads to something?
redpillschool Admin 8y ago
But I have a boyfriend!!
Yeah, me too! Anyway, tell me more about how you like to rock climb naked. I mean, ehem, rock climb.
Turn the conversation sexual at every chance.
"I don't rock climb naked!"
"Right, right, I'm sorry, I just keep visualizing this differently. Rock climbing in lingerie.. tell me, don't your nipples get caught on rocks?"
aguy01 8y ago
Anytime a woman you've recently met lets herself be isolated with you she is thinking about fucking. The only thing that will make her want to not fuck in that case is you.
Im_not_lonely 8y ago
ugh. She sounds really classy. Be safe dude. All sorts of drama in this. Is your place not an option?
10 bucks says her place is messy.
SheepKing 8y ago
Just pretend she doesnt have a boyfriend, you can do some guilt play when fucking her too.
Danedina 8y ago
Hilarious, thanks for sharing. Strategy should be push-pull. Obviosly, try to get some drinks in her so she can blame the liquor.
[deleted] 8y ago
Ticket to jail, mate.
Dingle_my_berries 8y ago
Or claim that she was drunk and OP took advantage. With a stranger, in her home, in an unflattering position for her to be in, I'd be very careful to follow your advice and get her liquored up.