Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
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1. No shaming men for any reason.
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2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
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3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
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5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
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5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
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6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
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Recommended reading:
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Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
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OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
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Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
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WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
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Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
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Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
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Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
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The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
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Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
- Complete list of resources here.
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The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
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Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
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Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
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Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
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Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
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Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
- New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.
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DarthBroker 3y ago
This is over correcting its best.
Past relationships = hot and heavy
Husband = nothing
This is sad, but i have been there.
newyorkloser45 3y ago
He isn't giving her the tingles like chad does.
This reminds of that story where one loving husband found out his daughters weren't his and his wife cheated on him for 11 years back in their younger days, and he committed suicide afterwards. I despise these cold-hearted narcissists.
BluepillProfessor 3y ago
Watta wonderful weaving wordy woatail
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3y ago
Nice!
molded_bread 3y ago
At least just tell him out of decency. What happened to decency? Can't these women act like normal humans?
BluepillProfessor 3y ago
Shitlord! She is only hurting men and thus striking a blow at the patriarchy. Are you an ally?
skint_back 3y ago
Women greatly fear accountability and real consequences.
She knows if she tells her husband that she’s not attracted to him, then there’s a great chance the relationship won’t recover and she’ll lose access to his income.
Of course, she can’t see it yet, but this only ends one way, anyhow. She’ll eventually grow weary of the occasional pity sex and the relationship will enter the dead bedroom phase, then she cheats, and ultimately divorce happens.
But all that will take 2-5 years to play out. As of right now, she’s still trying to salvage the relationship for the monetary benefits.
Nightowloldschool 3y ago
I guess that part no longer exists in them
cel-shaded 3y ago
Decency is a tool of the patriarchy.
NBA_MSG 3y ago
Much like equality, being strong independent, they all disappear when it is to their detriment. No one's a feminist when the bill comes
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
She would lose her Wallet Source.
-ButShes1000Bro- 3y ago
Expecting women to exhibit a shred of morals is patriarchal oppression, shitlord.
road_laya 3y ago
Nobody has been so successful at selling patriarchy to me as feminists have been.
OppositeWrongdoer312 3y ago
Yes the good old butterflies she used to get from thugnificent is missing with her gentleman of a husband and hence she finds it difficult to even kiss him.
Oxynewbdone 3y ago
Op is aliterate.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
I mean, it's right there in his flair.
BANTTIMMY 3y ago
She managed to pull the eject lever just before the wall AND stick the landing after more than a decade of riding the CC but she is already alpha widowed....
From the streets she cometh to the streets she shall return.
Divorce in 3-6 years, probably sooner she might go the 6 tho just to get into "payout" range.
Poor guy is going to get taken to the cleaners but at least we will get to see her post 30 dating profile and future crying about how hard dating is on FDS....
Would also like to point out that she certainly did things with the all powerful tingles men that she won't do with her husband.
Let it be a lesson men, if she is over 25 its almost impossible for her to be worth your time for anything serious. Don't Save A 304.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3y ago
Further proof that you can't turn a hoe into a wife. They're just wired differently.
I-am-the-lul 3y ago
Don't marry or even cohabitate with leftovers.
Wide-Illustrator2906 3y ago
I wish I had a award to give you for the knowledge you dropped.
LegoJack 3y ago
POV when your pair bonding circuits are totally fried.
Flashy_Glove6208 3y ago
As other commentators said she's DG alpha widow. Cannot pair bond. The guy is surely not RPed. If he knew he would not marry her.
Poor guy, hope he DNA tests children when she gets pregnant.
RealMcGonzo 3y ago
Everybody else on Reddit: "Oh poor dear! I hope you solve this problem, how tragic!"
Red pilled men: "That poor fuckin' guy, JFC. "
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Ahh, a stillborn marriage.
I wondered if such a thing existed.
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3y ago
So wrong, and yet so right... I love this subreddit.
[deleted] 3y ago
You can’t turn a whore into a housewife.
Remarkable_Weather21 3y ago
Cannot turn whore to wife either
Joaquino7997 3y ago
In all honesty, this was a very sad yet confusing read.
She said she "grew to really love" her husband. He respects her and treats her well. But she can't even kiss him?
Did they even consummate the marriage?!?!
SeparatePicture 3y ago
This will only end one way and sadly the husband will be the loser in all of this.
Actually, it's hard to say if there's really a winner.
AngryCockOfJustice 3y ago
she obviously, with juicy divorce settlement and alimony
Marko_From_Tropoja_ 3y ago
Ya but it’s only been a year. She will stick it out for 10 years to get that nice settlement and probably have someone on the side.
NBA_MSG 3y ago
Of course she will. You don't just throw away a winning lotto ticket
-ButShes1000Bro- 3y ago
Its a chilling thought that you could have a woman trick you into marriage by lying about thr fact she had wild monkey sex with other men but you get grudging crumbs of pussy and literal revulsion. But shes not damaged goods, guys, being promiscuous totally doesnt have any negative effects on women!
Wide-Illustrator2906 3y ago
I know we aren't supposed to blame men, but he has to take some responsibility for this. Men have got to stop marrying women who don't have genuine sexual desire for them. She says they never went through the "hot and heavy" phase, this is because she is not sexually attracted to him and never was. Her past relationships were sexually intense because she was actually attracted to those men and wanted to fuck them. This is a classic case of Alpha Fucks/ Beta Bucks. Their relationship is doomed.
This is another reason why you should only be in LTR with women with very few or preferably 0 body counts. His wife was alpha widowed and any women who has had too many partners will not be able to truly love and appreciate their husbands unless he is the best sex she's had. When you add in dozens of previous partners, this is highly unlikely.
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Wide-Illustrator2906 3y ago
Desperation does cloud men's judgment but that's still no excuse. This guy was 31 years old, he knows the difference between genuine desire and placating someone. More than likely he is blue pilled and shuns red pill ideologies as toxic. Nevertheless, it's important that red pill truths are taught to every young man in the west. I told my little brother who's in college about the red pill and to my surprise, him and his friends already knew about it. At this point you have to be willing obtuse to not see the reality of alot of red pill truths.
Marriage to a western woman is a bad idea in every case, whether you are getting genuine desire or not. Western women are literally controlled by their "tingles". American women see the cock carousel as a right of passage instead of a choice. If they don't ride it in their youth, they will definitely make a play for it in their late 30's after they've divorced their first husband. Very few women have the moral fiber to deny the media's influence and stay loyal to their boyfriends and husbands.
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 3y ago
And you don't love him.
Gentlemen,
The sexual dynamics in this world are such: men love women, women respect men.
Love, kindness, generosity, giving - are primarily the domain of men.
Fear, respect, receiving, maintaining - are primarily the domain of women.
Women are human beings and men are human doings. Therefore, men do all the things and women are the beneficiaries. Men give, women receive. Men are outgoing with their kindness, generosity and giving - women are trying to hold onto what they have, fearful of losing it and setting boundaries to do so.
This is why she will never love you the way you love her. Because she's a woman, not a man.
This is also why you will never respect or fear her the way she respects and fears you. Because you are a man, not a woman.
Men complain that women don't love them.
Women complain that men don't respect them.
Both are unrealistic.
Sure, a man can respect his woman, it just won't be in the way she respects him.
Sure, a woman can love a man, it just won't be in the way he loves her.
Here we have yet another example of a woman who is having trouble loving the man who respects her and treats her so well.
Hmm.... I wonder if those two things are related....
shadbin 3y ago
This deserves more upvotes. You really hit the nail on the head.
bryonwart 3y ago
My God, modern women are so fycked up...imagine a guy writing this...he'd be torn apart and made chum.
maruadventurer 3y ago
We don't have to, she is going to do it for us. Oh and there is nothing modern about it. Women have been this conflicted since Eve gave Adam a bite of the apple.
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Typo-MAGAshiv asshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3y ago
Rule 4. Do not ask for that information.
Edit - we are not here to play vigilantes.
Nightowloldschool 3y ago
She's a carousel rider whose dating a "not my type guy" and poor guy even married her... Damn she's settled for him
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Frosty_League 3y ago
Infuriating
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
"You have to understand, I hurt you for your own good. When I ruined your life, I was actually doing you a favor."
I'd make a comparison to cartoon villainy but I'm pretty sure Snidely Whiplash would be offended - and rightly so. He never did anything nearly so sociopathic and vile.
[deleted] 3y ago
Probably 6-24 months before her lack of attraction morphs into rationalizations on why she should cheat or leave her husband. Sometimes it takes the old cognitive hamster a bit to catch up with the tingly feelz, but it always seems to happen. Self awareness (like her post) are fleeting moments at best.
Rob141414 3y ago
Giving herself a reason to ride the cc.
BargainBard 3y ago
So is this what you guys mean about a woman's "tingles"?
I feel so sorry for this guy, as he might be feeling like he found his one in a million woman and she secretly feels like this!?
The stuff of nightmares.
skint_back 3y ago
“Tingles” = sexual arousal and excitement women feel around certain men.
These men tend to be dominant, attractive, fit, arrogant, narcissistic, assholes, Chads…. the proverbial “bad boy.”
You’ll often hear women themselves refer to the tingles as “sparks”… for example,
“I went on a date with Brad… he was a nice guy but there was no sparks.”
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Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
Just legally change your name to 'Chad'. There! All better. LOL
WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 3y ago
This why they say “nice guys finish last”. Women will cry all day that they can only seem to find jerks to date, and why aren’t there any niCe gUyS, but then they’ll friendzone the guy who treats her like the Disney princess she thinks she is and go for the tatted up ex convict because he’s hawt and must have a heart of gold. This is what leads young men to RP. They’re genuinely nice and caring guys, but experience with modern women forces them to be something they’re not.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
The corollary to this is when women say "All men are [insert your epithet of choice]." To which the correct response is, "No, the men you choose to date/fuck are [insert your epithet of choice]. It's not all men's fault your partner picker is shit."
LVL50JustThisGuy 3y ago
Gods, I hope he reads this!!!
bats000 3y ago
Impressive title.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
Understand you've lied to, misled and cheated this man you claim to love. Accept full responsibility for your sins and set about making things right.
Sit your husband down, explain the situation, apologize for deceiving him and agree to an annulment of your marriage. Do not ask for or expect anything from him following this decision and do not allow him to give you anything out of any sort of misguided sense of obligation.
Have the both of you get together with an attorney to go over the separation with a fine-tooth comb to ensure there's absolutely no legal way he could ever be compelled to offer you any sort of support.
Contact his friends and family and explain your misdeeds to them as well. Once again, apologize for the damage and distress your lies have and will continue to cause.
Do not seek forgiveness, whether from your ex-husband or his friends and family. You made your bed. Now you get to lie in it.
Once the separation is finalized and he's fully free of you, commit to never again ruining a good man's life simply to satisfy your own selfish desires. Consider joining a convent and devoting your life to service of others in attempt to find some measure of redemption for all the pain your selfishness has caused.
maruadventurer 3y ago
Sir, I don't think the convent would have her.
Marko_From_Tropoja_ 3y ago
Lol none of this will happen… but it seems logical.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
I never said it would. She asked what she should do. I answered.
NBA_MSG 3y ago
That's a great piece of fiction. It has as much chance of happening as Jack and the Beanstalk
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
True, but I wasn't offering this as a prediction. She asked what she should do. I simply endeavored to answer.
DicamVeritatem 3y ago
Yes but…has that ever happened in the history of the world?
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
She asked what she should do. I answered.
-ButShes1000Bro- 3y ago
Lol if she had the moral standards to do the right thing she wouldnt have married the guy under false pretenses to begin with.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
Agreed. I've literally no expectation anything even approaching this scenario will actually come to pass, but she asked what she should do, so I answered.
-ButShes1000Bro- 3y ago
Shame she refuses to hear anything other than support for her behavior.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
Money's too good, probably.
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There are posts that have 100s of comments regarding 'women who settled for a husband, how is your life like?'. The answers are truly horrifying and enough to ensure that any man who ever reads it will not touch the topic of marriage with a 10 meter pole.
nitro-666 3y ago
That's true. Nowadays you don't need to read red pill content to become redpilled, it's all in the open.
[deleted] 3y ago
If every man visits women subs and women channels, marriage rate would plummet.
NBA_MSG 3y ago
What do you mean "would"? Marriage rates are plummeting
cautionTomorrow555 3y ago
The most hurtful blackpills I have ever heard were spoken by women.
Goldmansachs3030 3y ago
Yeah and men would accept the truth more easily, rather than experiencing once, which is painful as hell.
vegasbadboy702 3y ago
Just proof that her previous cc riding destroyed her pair bonding. She’s looking for any reason to cheat now. What’s worse is the poor husband probably thinks all is well. She’s gonna cheat, make some bs excuse when caught, and then divorce him.
MouseMiIk 3y ago
That dude's gonna be ruined emotionally. All of us in this sub can see what's going to happen in about 5 years. She'll get her "You go, girl!" comments from her toxic female peers while that dude contemplates putting a pistol in his mouth. He'll be destroyed, but society doesn't care if you're a man. Twitter isn't going to create new hashtags and run to your aid if you were born with a penis.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
Not for the first time, I genuinely wish I knew the people involved here. I'd show the man this post and do my best to help him through the inevitable fallout.
MouseMiIk 3y ago
You and me both. I wish I could reach out to him and help guide him through the painful but necessary path to unplugging and seeing things for what they really are. It's gonna be rough for him and he'll likely feel absolutely alone and confused at how he did everything right, yet he was still discarded.
gorangutan96 3y ago
Nobodys gonna mention the alliteration in the title?
RealMcGonzo 3y ago
Why would we?
I-am-the-lul 3y ago
Managing to make ALL of the words start with W, that is quite impressive.
NoonTimeHoopsMVP 3y ago
It is amazing alliteration.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
I mean, it's right there in OP's flair.
ThrowMeABoneScott 3y ago
Alliteration or consonance?
OwenWentFullMGTOW 3y ago
Free lesson: She's describing the problem but she's not actually seeking answers.
Rather, she's looking for permission. She wants someone (preferably a woman) to tell her that it's okay to refuse intimacy to her husband. She's not looking for answers; she's looking for permission.
She already decided what she wants to do. She just wants someone to tell her what she wants (i.e., a sexless marriage) is totally fine and if her Beta Bux Billy husband doesn't like that, obviously he's an asshole.
Step two, of course, is having an affair with Chad.
Bob_and_Virginia Jr. Hamster Analyst 3y ago
Good analysis.
WeRAllOnThisBlessedD 3y ago
Exactly. She’s probably ran this same story through her girlfriends, her female coworkers, her sister, all so she can be told “you go girl!”.
nitro-666 3y ago
You can't negotiate desire. If a woman is really into you, you'll know immediately. Otherwise, cut your losses.
saruin 3y ago
tfw, you understand now, how lame you've been all these years.
Marko_From_Tropoja_ 3y ago
Agreed, you can’t tell as most women aren’t really subtle about it.
HedgeRunner 3y ago
Wise words my friends and a great rule for dating.
NoonTimeHoopsMVP 3y ago
It is probably the hardest red pill to swallow since it goes against all the indoctrination of societal romance and the lessons of never giving up.
It also hits the hardest once you realize it. I know I look back with shame at how many times I tried to start conversations with girls who never once instituted conversation with me.
nitro-666 3y ago
Yeah, all the times I thought "there must be something I could say to make her interested in me", or to do something for her... But like all the red pills, once you swallow it all becomes clearer and way easier. She's not into me? Good riddance.
Goldmansachs3030 3y ago
They play pretend and make the guy believe really hard.Hope this guy quickly gets his redpill moment and walks away leaving this sorry ass bitch behind. This is why people should think, i identify my addiction, how they negatively affect my life/goals/time and never do that, no matter what(This is for anything). She's gonna msg him back crying after that or will divorce-rape someone else. I cannot fathom how feminist think how they are entitled to a specific way/standard of living if they are not earning for that and just depend on the man, but naaah, cannot be with him when all goes down.
OhBarnacles_007 3y ago
The more women fuck around the less they can make a connection. Hence why in older cultures they have arranged marriages. Women make shit decisions and when left to their own methods will focus on fun and feelings over long term stability and order.
Hence why the dating scene is a shit show.
cautionTomorrow555 3y ago
Like overgrown children but somehow even more prone to self destruction.
OwenWentFullMGTOW 3y ago
You're right about pair-bonding. But you are incorrect about why marriages used to be arranged.
Royal marriages were arranged so that two separate kingdoms would be less likely to go to war with each other. It was basically a peace treaty by other means. Kingdom 1 would send their princess or duchess or whatever tf to Kingdom 2. That would make the peace long before war broke out. And if the union was rly successful, often Kingdom 2 would send their princess or something over to Kingdom 1 to marry somebody and further cement their bond. After all, the two kingdoms can't very well go to war with each other when one of their own is in the other kingdom's royal court, now can they?
Basically, royals were expected to forego their own happiness in order to do what was best for their people. The king might have wanted to marry someone else. But it was good diplomacy to marry a foreign royal to help his people and help her people too. It was a truly noble thing to do.
For commoners, marriages were often arranged for other reasons. The father of the bride would present a dowry to a worthy suitor (i.e., bribe the guy) as incentive to marry his daughter. The father would pick out a quality man based on what he knew makes for a good man. It was assumed that allowing a woman to choose her husband would more or less result in what we have now, where she shacks up with Chad because he's "exciting" but he obviously won't be a good husband or a good father.
Politics would sometimes figure into it. But more often than not, the woman's father was protecting his daughter from herself. Hence, he picked out her husband.
Basically, our ancestors were a lot more red pilled than even we are.
shadbin 3y ago
He was talking about regular family oriented arranged marriages not royal ones but ok.
biccat 3y ago
Marriage for love was never really a thing until fairly recently. The Romans were notoriously class conscious and used marriage as a way to advance the family standing in the community.
[deleted] 3y ago
As soon as you hear spouses saying their spouse is their "best friend" it's game over. Your best friend should be your best friend not your husband/wife.
You can't have it both ways ladies, he is either your husband or "best friend" which is just another way of saying friend zoned.
NoonTimeHoopsMVP 3y ago
Exactly.
If I wanted to marry my best friend, I would.
I don't.
Nightowloldschool 3y ago
Yep probably cause she wants to settle down
Grixxas 3y ago
She wants the benefits of having a "best friend" without having to make the honest effort one would do for their husband/wife.
NickTesla2018 3y ago
The tingles! The tingles! Another poor bastard whose not really her husband, but a "lifestyle sponsor". (Stolen from a YouTube comment.)
Ok-Adeptness4906 3y ago
I have to wonder - in a situation like this, would the best advice for hubby be: "develop a coke habit and slap her around a bit - soon she'll crave wild sex with you"?
MGTOWManofMystery 3y ago
Marriage... not even once!
TexasMilitia 3y ago
I don’t know him, so I can’t say he is or isn’t a beta. By his marital attitude alone, I think it’s borderline to call him a beta. If he’s established his home, can provide for them and isn’t a raging violent asshole, it doesn’t mean he’s a beta.
I’ll agree, however, that the relationship problem lies squarely on her shoulders. I’ll make an educated assumption that she grew weary of the give all/get nothing from her “alpha fux” lovers and decided she needed a stable man who had his shit together.
The root of this dilemma is that her mind has been poisoned by feminism and 50 Shades Of Bullshit into believing that if she’s not in a constant state of arousal it must not be “love”.
She will definitely gravitate toward the feminist echo chambers, take horrible advice, leave her good life and end up broke, pregnant, and working two jobs. And wishing that she had a time machine.
Remarkable_Weather21 3y ago
why would anyone in the right mind marry with someone who they cannot even kiss without puking ? just why ?
FreeDinnerStrategies 3y ago
To put this in perspective, she feels the same way we would feel if a man tried to kiss us. All because he doesn’t embody the tall white prince she was led to believe would magically appear in her life and give her the gift of making all her girlfriends jealous.
FreeDinnerStrategies 3y ago
To put this in perspective, she feels the same way we would feel if a man tried to kiss us. All because he doesn’t embody the tall white prince she was led to believe would magically appear in her life and give her the gift of making all her girlfriends jealous.
HedgeRunner 3y ago
Cuz he didn't see it. Men gotta be better at observing their own woman. If she doesn't have any desire and doesn't get excited to see you, you'll feel it. Some of this desire does fade after the hot and heavy period but a lot of it is also retained and comes out in non sexual ways. Unfortunately, a lot of men miss those and get into this situation.
I do love that she starts to realize this is a concern all this time later LOL.
RealMcGonzo 3y ago
The entire concept of judging how interested a woman is in you just blew my mind when I learned it.
Unfortunately that wasn't until I was well into my 40s. Boy do I wish the net existed when I was in high school, I would have slayed poon.
I-am-the-lul 3y ago
I wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had little to no success in the dating field before he met her, so I could forgive the fact that he doesn't have the experience nor the red pill knowledge needed to spot signs she sees him as a beta bailout rather than a sexually desirable man.
Marko_From_Tropoja_ 3y ago
Bc he makes money and provides her with comfort. Women are wired differently bro. They will play that long game to set themselves up financially instead of working for it like I did or any normal guy does.
cautionTomorrow555 3y ago
The only differences between normal women and hookers is the hookers are honest about trading sex and only take cash.
jack_Me_hoffman 3y ago
Women could never comprehend the struggle that men have to go through mentally, financially, and physically to even be in the position that they're in. Their strategy is to find a man, lock it down, and coast. They aren't built to be providers or listen to you be emotional, go to the homies for the feelies not your wife. I speak from experience. Got emotional with an ex when I was a young lad, never had a woman break up with me so fast in my life.
saruin 3y ago
provider vs. tingles
often mutually exclusive.
FreeDinnerStrategies 3y ago
I’m going to counter that with always mutually exclusive. Chad does not pay or provide anything monetarily. In fact, women are happy to pay for a Chad to give them 30 minutes of his time
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Even though that's supposedly what feminism was all about.
BeholdTheHair 3y ago
No, that's what feminists said feminism was about.
Red Pill 101: Don't listen to what women say. Watch what (and who) they do.
Remarkable_Weather21 3y ago
i guess it is something like that seeing these kind of stuff makes me depressed sometimes but i guess better to be aware
Frosty_League 3y ago
Much better to be aware than end up like this guy
Remarkable_Weather21 3y ago
Yeah definitely
Impressive-Cricket-8 Founding member of FapGPT 3y ago
What does it say about you when kissing your husband - a nice man by your own account - makes you literally sick?
TattedGuyser 3y ago
Loose pussy energy for sure.
LegoJack 3y ago
Something has to be totally broken inside you for that to happen.
manfrom-nantucket 3y ago
She isn't smart enough to get it man.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
This post is also a great example of why attraction isn't all about looks (which is what some people seem to believe).
In her on words, she said:
Despite the fact that hes handsome, his "nice guy" beta behavior is such a turn off that she can't even kiss him without wanting to vomit. Personality does matter a lot when it comes to attraction. Bad boys, assholes, etc are a turn on for women. Niceness is a turn off. She implied her ex's were "bad boys" and she said the sex with them was great. Now that shes with someone nice, she doesn't even wanna kiss him. Coincidence?
polishknightusa 3y ago
I think I stumbled onto this totally by accident (getting the "frame"), but from the beginning I was onto brinksmanship with women including my wife (of 17 years).
She often complains about this-or-that, has called me "cheap", and nearly every woman I know said I was like a 19th century man (which is insulting. Polish Knights aspire to the 16th century standard.)
That's not to say I don't strive to be a better person or dress well but it's sort of like the feminist model in that I do this for "myself" but also to be polite and respectful (I don't show up at a wedding in jeans and sneakers.) But I don't fret about whether I'm trying to make "happy wife/happy life" because I know that's impossible. I set a standard I believe is reasonable and I enforce it because, well, I don't see an alternative. Otherwise, I'd be a donkey chasing after a carrot hoping to please a woman which I know I can't do.
I'm from older Gen-X and this is out of sync with baby boomer men whose beta traits endeared them to many women: They held open doors, they worked long hours, they bought all the junk the TV box told their wives to make them buy and this was the American Dream of a white picket fence that many of these women said made them happy. Or did it? For all we know, the man divorces of baby boomers when women's workplace equality took off may have been them quietly engaging in this confused love'em/hate-'em nice guy/bad boy trope but it just wasn't yet identified.
What makes women happy? Well, 17 years so far it's this:
"I'm not happy! I asked you to do 10 things today! Waaahhh!"
"It's saturday. You know you're lucky to get ONE thing out of me when I've just competed a work week. Oh, you're WELCOME!"
"Her, walks away grumbling."
"Just now (no kidding an hour ago!): So... when do we sneak in nookie while the daughter is watching TV?"
It really means just at some level not taking what women say literally which is a danger in that if women want equality, how can someone be equal if they can't articulate what they reasonably want?
loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 3y ago
Is he a nice guy beta male or is he just a kind, respectful husband?
From her own words - it seems like he's just a kind, loving, respectful husband.
If this is correct, the problem here is in her, not in him.
It's not because he's beta, it's because she's impossible to please.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
Miscommunications happen with terminology like this. I meant that hes kind and respectful, but that turns women off.
Thats just what she mentioned. He could be a doormat who worships her. And based on the fact that she literally wants to vomit when kissing him, Id say he probably is like that.
Thats true of plenty of women. On this sub, we called it "fried ice." Ive seen you personally use the term.
czwarty_ 3y ago
Lol, I have a feeling she finds him handsome like a grandma finds her overweight grandson handsome. It's not the same as "sexy". They were friends for long time, she thought he "looks ok", he also probably doesn't dress slobby or wear fedoras and that's enough for her to say he's "handsome". I heard women say that about their unattractive friends before and that's exactly it - "handsome just not my type". Lmao. She married that man, she still has some of cognitive dissonance to go through before she admits even to herself he's completely unattractive to her
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
When grandma calls their ugly grandson handsome, they know that hes not handsome. Its just a generic compliment that elders give to young people. If this guy is actually ugly, why did the wife say hes handsome? Specifically in a thread about not wanting to kiss him.
The most likely explanation is that he is decent looking but his beta personality is such a turn off that she cant stand to kiss him. She even admitted her last relationships were "dumpster fires" but that the sex was good. But now that shes with a "nice guy", she hates kissing and sex.
kidruhil 3y ago
No. She said he's handsome entirely to preempt accusations that she's being shallow and is focused on looks.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
Possible. Or maybe hes decent looking and shes repulsed by his "nice guy" beta personality.
Either way, looks reductionists are such idiots.
kidruhil 3y ago
Agreed. Honestly a guy could be beta af but if he's hot enough, all but the most used up of whores could still be happy with him.
Conversely, being alpha af is irrelevent if a guys ugly.
purplish_possum 3y ago
They can be happy for a few years. But eventually the fact he's,"not her type" rears its head.
Frosty_League 3y ago
Disagree
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
I think this is a misunderstanding. Based on your comment, it sounds like youre a looks reductionist, or at least close to one. Looks reductionist means looks are all that matters.
If a guy is really hot but beta af, he will have success with most women in the beginning of the relationship, but their sexual desire for him will go away overtime. Some women dont mind the beta personality, but Id say a majority of women dont like having sex with men who are very beta, regardless of how hot he is. Thats why the beta providers get so little sex.
What if youre average looking? I agree that in todays dating market, ugly guys are dismissed by women regardless of their personality. But what if a guy had a very alpha personality, and was about average looking?
kidruhil 3y ago
There's very little nuance to modern women. Either a guy is 'hawt af' or he's ugly and invisible.
And agreed on the nice hot guy losing interest over time.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
No, theres plenty. They subconsciously judge you for pretty much anything you do. Her desire to have sex with you is based on a combination of your looks, personality, and financial status.
No, theres plenty of guys who are in between hot and ugly. Average looking guys who are alphas are way, way more successful with woman than average looking guys who are betas.
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TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
No
OathOfRhino 3y ago
I like how you assume the guy is a beta with 0 evidence. Not projecting at all there.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
She said that her previous relationships were dumpster fires and now shes getting away from that and dating a "nice guy." She said "he respects me and treats me kindly." "I feel very comfortable with him but he doesn't give me butterflies." How is that 0 evidence?
OathOfRhino 3y ago
Ok, i guess we'll take her word then #believeallwahman
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
Lmao, if youre just going to disregard everything in the post as "her lying", then whats the point of trying to analyze it? You said I had 0 evidence for my claim that hes beta, yet its you that has 0 evidence that hes ugly. This conversation is pointless if youre a looks reductionist that dismisses any evidence that maybe there is more to attraction than just looks.
OathOfRhino 3y ago
I disagree. I think there is information here, but it not what she literally says. My takeaway is that because of her past she is unavle to pairbond with a potentially good man.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
Its not just about an inability to pair bond. Shes repulsed by the idea of kissing her husband. And it wasnt always that way. Her post suggests that she lost attraction to him overtime, and now its gotten so low that she cant even kiss him without wanting to puke. His looks didnt change that much, but his personality certainly could have.
If you worship women, they will be this repulsed by you. Its about his beta personality, not his looks.
OathOfRhino 3y ago
But the inverse is not always true. Just because she is repulsed by you does not mean you are a beta. It might just mean that she cannot be satisfied and happy regardless of what you are/do.
TheRabbitTunnel 3y ago
All female attraction comes down to 3 things - Looks, personality (alpha vs beta), and resources (money). Money was never mentioned, but looks and personality were. She said hes handsome, so that shouldnt be an issue. Whats left? His personality. She even specified she used to have "dumpster fire" relationships where the sex was good, but now shes dating a nice guy and the sexual attraction isnt there. Not only that, but she cant even kiss him without wanting to puke.
You could say "oh well shes lying about him being handsome", which is possible, but it appears that the most likely explanation is that his beta personality is repulsing her. And by "beta personality" I mean hes way too nice, worships her, doesnt criticize her, etc.
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loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 3y ago
Never ask such questions.