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MrNeurotypical

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XanII 4y ago

Hmm.... There is a chance this thing can be filed under the 'Women absolutely hate other women' -file cabinet.

Chances are the OP woman here was the cute girl from next door but fell for the 'Yo go girl!' trap when taking advice from jealous 'friends'.

Seen this so many times during the decades and it only keeps getting worse.

Women keep other women single. The bucket of crabs law. It's not a theory or hypothesis, it's a law and here's further proof of that. There is no moral judgement of the single friends. We don't care if they're jealous. They gave bad advice and the results show for it.

Madner70 4y ago

Nothing a cat and boxed wine can't solve.

Over_Ebb_8979 4y ago

Sounds like my last ex, but there was a twelve year age gap. Tried to get back with me a year later only for her to not like the mindset that I have today. After being lied to (I expected so I wasn't suprised) she tried to get back, but this time I told her I'm not Forrest Gump

3HardWay 4y ago

She "poetically" had to get to know strangers deeply? That is a unique way to phrase wanting to get pounded hard.

I really hope she does reach out to that dude a decade later, only so he can shoot her down.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I hope he pumps and dumps her and then gives her the same lame excuse she gave him.

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“Therapist” - say no more.

somemayoasscracker 4y ago

Yeah, my ex dumped me on some bullshit after I spoiled her rotten for months and had planned to spend my life with her (wasn't dumb enough to say that obviously).

We got back together months later and it was never the same. I ended up just cheating on her bc I figured "dumb bitch could cook up a reason to dump me again at any moment so I'm gnna have my fun this time".

So funny how wahmen can't handle being treated right and things going well without getting freaked out.

And we're supposed to respect this?

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

It's a little deeper than that. Hypergamy only cares about getting the BEST genetics for her offspring. Knowing that, men would be much wiser to spend their money on steroids, gyms, cosmetic surgery, and orthodontics rather than women. One gets results, the other doesn't.

krakizwak 4y ago

She and her therapist say she can't blame herself, of course, that's what her friends are for.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I'd be really surprised if any therapist has ever heard of hypergamy.

imdaad_khan 4y ago

This is how guys get those “Hey big head” messages years later.

goodmansaysfuckyou Big Dick Energy Misogynist 4y ago

That bucket of crabs is a real bitch of a arena to fight out of. Her "friends" were not her friends. Just like always they get more satisfaction out making themselves 'better' by destroying something than working to build themselves, and each other, up.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Why do men cheat? Because women spread their legs so easily and fuck married men. Crabs in a bucket, man.

swiftdickens 4y ago

Oh I have gotten the “working on myself” excuse from a 29 year old who told me that she realized she wouldn’t be ready for marriage until she was 40. I had just met her family and went on a trip with her and a few of her girlfriends she wanted me to meet. She went on to tell me how she thought that buying a peloton, a new SUV, a dog (she has multiple cats already), moving to a new city, and possibly going to a therapist could help her with whatever vague issues she was having but couldn’t explain. I talked to her a few months after and she said that her friends and her mom called her an idiot and that she kind of regretted her decision. She also still had not been to a shrink, has not made any progress on moving, but did order a peloton…priorities. She’ll be writing this type of post I am sure in the future.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

LMFAO when she's 40 even the autistic gamer guys that live with their mothers will be taken. Who does she think she will find single at that age? She's already facing the wall. You were probably her last hope of getting wifed up. Oh well, if my TRT and viagra hold up into my 70s and I get too ugly for the prostitutes, maybe then I'll start gaming cougars.

OwenWentFullMGTOW 4y ago

Almost every single line of that deflects blame onto someone else for a decision she made. Even ten years later, she doesn't want to be accountable for her own choices.

Get comfy, sweetheart. Dating after the wall will be even more disappointing for you.

IceCorrect 4y ago

If you wont to realy know a women, just look her girlfriends, they have no reason to hide their true colours for you and even if she is not like them, they will constantly inject their venom into her. Then her change is only her fault for allowing this type of ppl araund her

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Harry_Teak 4y ago

I regret that I can only give one upvote to this comment. They say get a look at her mother but it's even more essential to get a look at her "friends," the women she chooses to associate with.

omore323 4y ago

Underrated comment. You could have saved me 4 years haha!

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MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Yup, closing time at the bar ladies, the lights have come on... "Why isn't anybody taking me home anymore?"

x-ciaphas 4y ago

God, this hits different because it just happened to me.

Male (30) just got dumped by my girlfriend (26) of more than 2 years because "we wanted the same things, just in different ways". Didn't feel like we did, if she dumped me. Feels like she wanted to go out and explore, who the hell knows what she'd be exploring, hmm? What's with the idea that they need to be fucking Magellan in order to have lived a good life? I blame the modern "romantic" standards...

This woman's post just sounds like a shitty, empty, meaningless existence. Is it kinda strange that despite being dumped, I still don't wish it upon my ex?

Traksimuss 4y ago

In 4 years she will hit you up 'Hey, how it goes? Do you miss the good thing we had too?'

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Sounds like a pretty shitty excuse to break up if you ask me. She's probably having one of those almost-ships right now. She'll get pumped and dumped by Chads until she hits the wall and then slide into your DMs right when you're hitting your peak SMV. All you can do is hard next her and figure out what red flags you missed.

Do me a favor: go ask 10 women you'd put your dick in this question: "Hey, you wanna run away together, get married, and have a bunch of kids?". Then watch the trash take itself out. It's my own personal shit test for women. It automatically eliminates 99% of modern women and gets you directly involved with a woman who wants to be a wife and mother. I must've asked 1000 women that question and wound up with 1 that was serious and I've been married to her for 17 years.

revente 4y ago

empty, meaningless existence.

I still don't wish it upon my ex.

Don’t worry, she doesn’t stay ‚empty’ too much

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

who the hell knows what she'd be exploring

We know. Sorry brah but you got off light.

wanted the same things in different ways

Translated: She wanted to have sex just like you but in different ways (with different guys).

Praise your Savior that you dodged this bullet.

ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4y ago

You're probably going through a difficult time right now, and I feel you. But don't ever try to understand what a woman says. Even women don't believe their own words and claim the right to change their minds at any time (just try to get a woman to commit to something she promised to earlier).

Instead, watch what women do.

Not knowing you or your girlfriend, I can't say for sure what she means by her phrase, and I'm not going to waste my energy on trying to understand it (neither should you). It could be her way of saying "Yeah, I want marriage and kids some day, but not before I spend 5 more years fucking a few more guys". Or it could be "I want to have the type of relationship you want, with someone like you, but just not *this* relationship, and just not with you." Who the fuck knows?

The only thing to understand is that she doesn't want to be with you right now, and possibly, she doesn't want a future with you, ever. Sure she might change her mind, or her circumstances, whatever. But regardless, she's out of your life, and that's the only fact that matters.

Regarding not wishing anything bad to your ex, it might be because you still have feelings for her (understandable if it was a recent breakup), but also understand this: as Elie Wiesel once said, the opposite of love is not hate, it's apathy. You know you'll be genuinely over her when you can wish her well and then truly not care whether she ends up miserable or happy the rest of her life.

When I went through my divorce, the first couple of months of our separation I was angry at my (now ex-)wife. But by the time the divorce came around, we had been living apart for over a year and I was truly over her. I remember when I signed the divorce papers, I wasn't angry, just relieved. I truly don't care whether she ever finds someone to spend her life with, or not; whether she's currently happy or miserable, etc. etc. Indeed, since I generally don't wish ill on other people, I hope she does find happiness in her life, regardless of the unhappiness she caused me. But I don't care one way or another, and indeed, at this point, I don't know what she's doing, where she lives, whether she's seeing someone, whatever. If she's happy, great. If she's miserable and despondent, oh well. I truly don't care. Hopefully, you've reached the same apathetic state with your ex.

SolidStateDynamite 4y ago

"we wanted the same things, just in different ways"

Translation: To her (and most women), settling down and getting married is the destination. But when she finds it before she thinks she's done with her journey, it's anti-climactic, and women aren't happy with an imperfect ending to their fairy tale. She found the Holy Grail when there was still a good 4 or 5 years of adventure (i.e. riding the carousel). In their minds, what kind of ending is that?

At some point in my mid 20s I resolved to just cut a girl loose if she talked like that. The one I dated before my wife told me she didn't want to get married because "there's so much in life [she hasn't] experienced." I told her she could experience those things with me, but she refused to change her mind. So I told her we'd be going our separate ways because I wanted to settle down and start a family. Guess who wouldn't stop texting me about how she changed her mind when she found out I was dating my now-wife.

Is it kinda strange that despite being dumped, I still don't wish it upon my ex?

Not really. I mean, if you don't wish it on her because you're holding out hope that things may work out in the future, then I'd say you're wasting your time thinking about it at all. No matter the outcome, you won't be happy. It's good to care for others, but sometimes you have to put yourself first.

In any case, I personally don't like to wish ill on people. Like, I don't believe in karma, but...it still makes a good case for itself, y'know?

ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4y ago

The ages are a clue: she's 26, right at the peak of her SMV. She's probably seeing her single friends having one night stands with hot guys, getting dinners bought for them every night, etc. etc. and figures she can do the same, at least for a few years, and then can monkey branch back into a stable relationship with a great guy just before that possibility slips away.

These women try to time their monkey branching with less margin of error than the trapeze artists in a Cirque de Soleil show, and they certainly don't care about having a safety net underneath them.

She started dating Mr. x-ciaphas at 24. But then she realized, looking around at her friends, that she had a few more years left in her. She jumped to the next trapeze too early, when it was still an easy reach. She had a couple more swings left before the next one was truly out of range. Instead of shrugging and saying "at least I made the jump safely", she wants to get back out there, swing a few more times, and see if she can barely catch on to the next trapeze by the tips of her fingernails. That's the only way she'll be satisfied knowing she squeezed every ounce of benefit from her cock carousel phase.

The trouble with that approach, though, as any Cirque de Soleil artist will tell you, is that you fall about a thousand times before you finally are able to consistently make such a difficult jump. And these women only have a few chances at that jump. Is it any wonder that so many fail at it and crash to their ignoble ends?

NoonTimeHoopsMVP 4y ago

"there's so much in life [she hasn't] experienced."

You gave the logically correct answer that you and her could have done it together. Unfortunately, what she wanted to experience (other men) had no place for your presence.

Traksimuss 4y ago

True, women want to give the minimal amount of years and fertility to their husbands.

Tells you how they value their husbands compared to hot Chads.

panzer22222 4y ago

"we wanted the same things, just in different ways".

I see one difference, you like your coffee the way you like your woman...no other guys dicks in it. your ex had a different opinion.

reignoferror00 4y ago

Hand ground by myself, followed by pouring nearly boiling water over twice. A 1/2 tsp of milk and sugar to make it slightly less bitter than me.

thotts_n_prayers 4y ago

I see one difference, you like your coffee the way you like your woman

ground-up and in the freezer?

skint_back 4y ago

Cheap and bitter

SeedsOfDoubt 4y ago

Dark roasted and French pressed

mustangfrank 4y ago

Ground and pounded

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

Black with lots of cream in it.

AlextheHun24 4y ago

These people are hedonistic pigs that make me sick but what makes me really sick is that they vote.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

We should just legalize prostitution and watch women's sexual market value be determined by the actual market. Then all these single mothers can earn an honest living and get off welfare. Whores would have a red light district to hang out in. Dating and hook-ups would be a thing of the past. Only proper ladies would be seriously courted for marriage.

shugzybossman 4y ago

Nah my guts always right

Even when I knew my gut told me not to breakup I did it.... And my gut was right

plz_say_sike 4y ago

“And those two friends that urged me to end things with him? Well, they’re both married now”

I love how common this is amongst women in their early 20s and mid 30s. I seen a lot of uni chicks break up with their high school sweetheart at the advice of their hoe friends as well as read stories about women in their mid 30s have FOMO for not having a hoe phase and being convinced by their miserable, divorced coworkers to demand an open marriage/divorce.

In both situations, the women in question were in happy, healthy relationships while their friends/coworkers were not. Those friends/coworkers must have hated seeing how happy they were so they urged them that they’re missing out.

The end result, more women being miserable & higher rates of antidepressant usage. It’s fairly common amongst TRP community, women operate on a crabs in a bucket mentality and hate seeing other women happier than them.

upsidedownbackwards 4y ago

My ex sister-in-law fell victim to toxic friends. Her other girlfriends all got divorced within a year. My SIL was the only one married for girls night out parties. So they convinced her to leave my brother.

Except they aren't 23 years old and hot anymore. They're 35, fat, have a single mother body and a talk-to-your-manager haircut. Girls night out is much tougher now that they all have to arrange babysitters. It doesn't really happen anymore.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

More like Karen's night out. I see them at the park on weekends with their Karen friends, making Karen faces, with their Karen kids. God it's awful hearing them scream at their kids from their lounge chair surrounded by a buffet of junk food and fat old hags. Blech. Like wow, so feminine.

DoDo_01 4y ago

Literally this joke lol

A department store opened in New York City that sold men and a woman decides to visit it in search of a husband. At the store’s entrance, there’s a sign outlining the department store policy. The first rule states that you can only enter the store once. There are six floors and on each floor you can choose a husband or elect to move on to the next floor. You cannot visit a floor more than once other than to leave the building. The woman visits the first floor. The sign reads: · Men with jobs. She moves on to the second floor: · Men with jobs that adore children. She moves on the the third floor where the sign reads: · Wealthy men that adore children and are very handsome. She thinks to herself, "that's a very good deal" yet moves on to the fourth floor: · Wealthy men that adore children, are very handsome and help with the household chores. She decides to move on as things are constantly improving: · Wealthy men that adore childern, are very handsome, help with the household chores and are very romantic. The woman is about to make her purchase but can't resist moving on to the sixth floor. There the sign reads: · You are visitor number 31,456,012 on this floor. · There are no men here. · This floor exists as proof that it is impossible to please women.

NoFaithInThisSub 4y ago

A department store opened in New York City that sold men and a woman decides to visit it in search of a husband. At the store’s entrance, there’s a sign outlining the department store policy. The first rule states that you can only enter the store once. There are six floors and on each floor you can choose a husband or elect to move on to the next floor. You cannot visit a floor more than once other than to leave the building. The woman visits the first floor. The sign reads: · Men with jobs. She moves on to the second floor: · Men with jobs that adore children. She moves on the the third floor where the sign reads: · Wealthy men that adore children and are very handsome. She thinks to herself, "that's a very good deal" yet moves on to the fourth floor: · Wealthy men that adore children, are very handsome and help with the household chores. She decides to move on as things are constantly improving: · Wealthy men that adore childern, are very handsome, help with the household chores and are very romantic. The woman is about to make her purchase but can't resist moving on to the sixth floor. There the sign reads: · You are visitor number 31,456,012 on this floor. · There are no men here. · This floor exists as proof that it is impossible to please women.

Across the road an angry woman wanting to prove that men were like that also, opened her store that sold women. The 1st floor was women who like sex, the second floor included those who cook and clean, and the 3rd floor was those that don't nag so much, and that level was always full of male customers, and never did they want to go to the above floors. Or so I heard.

Overkillengine 4y ago

She does not regret what she did, only that it didn't work out as planned.

Never trust someone with this mindset.

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Overlordofwhatever 4y ago

Exactly. These type of people only regret things if they are found out or something goes wrong. They actually don't care about people or doing the right thing.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Yeah she didn't meet someone better, so that's why she regrets it. She could care less about the man.

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Silent-Gur-1418 4y ago

I'd wager that that's exactly what prompted her little whine-post. She learned the hard way her window for "better" had closed and only now is she realizing what she threw away.

Awesomeo70706 4y ago

Her reaching out to him after a decade with a 3am text..."Hey big head".

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MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Then he tries to explain to his wife that it's his ex from 8 years ago who broke his heart and dumped him for no reason.

TheSigilStone 4y ago

I read this in Kevin Samuel's voice lmao.

road_laya 4y ago

Greg Adams does a phenomenal "hey big head"

Porscheguy928S 4y ago

How many dozens of men have pumped and dumped her in the past 8 years? Why are so many women in their prime sitting in counseling sessions?

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amameyplebbitor 4y ago

Apparently a string of almost-ship men lmao

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I dunno, I took my wife to counseling and they kicked her out. She doesn't need it.

just_the_nme 4y ago

You met the 1 ethical counselor in existence

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Because therapists gotta eat too.

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panzer22222 4y ago

Because therapists gotta eat too.

From the article where her therapist agrees with her 'its never your fault'. Doing nothing to fix her problem.

The_Frag_Man 4y ago

That keeps her coming back

markaleftis 4y ago

\^ this exactly this. The scary part of the whole story is her therapist arguing it was ok to follow her feelz back then, logic legit, zero empathy for the poor bf even from the "expert".

i think I will follow my feelz next time your driving skills irritate me...

bottomline the "experts" are extreme loonies.

Neldot 4y ago

Well, to partially justify the therapist, it has to be said that his job is to try to fix her head and help her live with her baggage, and not to instill further guilt. However, a good therapist, even without blaming her for mistakes that can't be undone, should at least teach her to learn from those mistakes.

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For 95 percent of the population 'therapy' and 'counseling' is a scam.

akai_ferret 4y ago

I went to see a therapist for a while, looking for help managing ADHD and all the problems I've been making for myself because of it. Trying to get my life in order and on track.

It was such a waste of time and money.
If I took her advice I'd never improve myself at all.

She basically just kept trying to convince me that nothing I did was my own fault. Like it wasn't me making those decisions. Like I should just view myself as a helpless victim of circumstance. Like the solution wasn't to learn how to get things done, but to just be happy with myself as a useless bum who can't finish anything.

It was infuriating.

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

I think they know exactly what they are doing.

Their entire paradigm is designed to keep women coming back for more "therapy" which is about whining, complaining, and bitching- NOT changing something to make it better.

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road_laya 4y ago

A large portion of psychology students get degrees as a sort of self-treatment. 40% IIRC. Most of them leftover women that waste their youth.

vacuumballoon 4y ago

When someone says “go to therapy”, respond “have you been to therapy?”

Because all my therapists were fucking crazy. One guy apparently wouldn’t drive because he was terrified about getting in an accident. Woman had an eating disorder. Another dude kept wanting to talk about my “repressed bisexuality”.

Then I think about the people who got psych degrees. The smart ones got jobs at google and Facebook as “social engineers” trying to sell my face wash. And the dumb ones are my therapist.

Yay.

ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4y ago

Hahaha. I thought I was the only one! My friend sees a therapist about her marital problems. He (the therapist) has apparently been divorced 3 times and is currently single.

To me, it seems like getting diet advice from a 400 pound heifer, but what do I know? I'm just someone "too much in denial" to get therapy myself, I suppose...

CentralAdmin 4y ago

Think about this from the guy's perspective.

This is when you hear about how everything seemed fine. How it was all perfect and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere she breaks up with him. He may have wanted to propose and start a family with her. Then he is left wondering what he did wrong.

This red pills so many men because they realise that even being the best partner she will ever have isn't enough for her. He wasted all that time with her. He may not be willing to offer another woman the same level of commitment because why bother? He did everything right and she left anyway. This is how men become assholes who then pump and dump their way through their 20s and 30s.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I'm a big 'ole asshole. Can you guess why? Could it be 10 years of being a nice guy incel while women were getting gang banged in college by Chads and partying? Could it be because they've been doing this since the 70s and it's only gotten more blatant and worse?

I found the red pill a little later in life so I'm gonna be pumping and dumping hoes through my 40s and 50s. I already got my TRT and viagra so it's going to be a Spartan adventure. Almost done with my orthodontics and then the nose job. Dye my hair blonde, bat my blue eyes, show my $8k smile, and bring heavy game. Oh shit I keep forgetting I need a motorcycle and tattoos. I'm also gonna do the pygeum+zinc trick to make huge loads. If I really wanted to be cruel I could switch up my TRT so I can get them pregnant, and then go live in Bali and send all the Eat, Love, Pray women home to their husbands with an ugly autistic baby in their belly.

BeholdTheHair 4y ago

Oh shit I keep forgetting I need a motorcycle and tattoos.

Shit, get the motorcycle anyway, just for yourself. I bought a little 250cc Rebel when I was 19, over my parents' (mostly my mother's) objections, and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Ain't nothin' better than being up on two.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I had a CBR in my 20s so I'm kinda over it. I'm just going to go ask prostitutes what I should get and get that. My guess is they'll say a harley and tribal tattoos but it is Thailand so you never know.

E-roticWarrior 4y ago

"Single women keep women single"
-Kevin Samuels
What can i say? While the "friends" who told her to do it, it was fine. are now are married lol

yellomachine 4y ago

Nope. Can't say I've regretted it.

Artichoke19 4y ago

I feel bad for her insofar that she does realise what she sacrificed and saw it for real love and now regrets it.

I’ve seen many women online not even get as far as that moment of self-realisation and continue bitching deep into their 30s and 40s that it’s not them, it’s everyone else.

At least this woman understands she brought this on herself.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

It's pretty fucked up when they alpha widow themselves, hit the wall, have their epiphany, and still have no clue what's going on. Solipsism at it's finest.

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"Trusted her gut" to spend 8 years getting her guts pushed in by Chads and Tyrones.

mustangfrank 4y ago

"Trusted her gut" to spend 8 years getting her guts pushed in by Chads and Tyrones that will not commit.

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Trust her gut = ask her friends

[deleted] 4y ago

trust her gut = listen to her envious friend poisonous advise and nod

Traksimuss 4y ago

Or went to internet and chose worst answer out of 100 and followed it, even if 99 said "do not do it".

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

Her therapist assures her that she did nothing wrong because she was doing what she thought was right at the time.

A coach would ask her what could she learn from her stupid mistake and how can she improve herself.

One makes her feel better.

The other helps her get better.

TLRD: Therapy sucks.

TheSigilStone 4y ago

Very deluded and so is her therapist (unless they are agreeing with her for her money). She is in her 30s now where her ability to reproduce has decreased significantly. Nobody sensible would want this piece of mentally dependent scrap for a lifelong romantic relationship. Future cat lady in the making.

Cristoff13 4y ago

What are guts normally full of?

Anyhow, I think she's looking at this guy through a lens of nostalgia and vague longing, the feelinz that women love to wallow in. He probably wasn't quite as great as she remembered, and if she'd married him she'd be some variety of "unhappy" about now. Or already divorced.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

He was a provider that gave her tingles so she dumped him to chase Chad. Now in her epiphany phase her priorities have changed and she wants a provider but Chad just won't commit. Hence all the almost-ships.

revente 4y ago

It doesn’t matter. He was way over her current league.

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Chgralac73 4y ago

i got once sabotaged by a chick like that, who took over her "friends" computer to shittest me with some nonsense. obviously it did not work out. with "friends" like these, who needs an enemy?

droden 4y ago

I hope he got married and she seethes while Facebook stalking his happiness while crying on her cat / microwave meal.

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Gundamsafety 4y ago

Worked his ass off and is now married to a smoking hot women and is well off and has the house with the white picket fence and 2 kids and a dog. He freekin' became a Norman Rockwell painting.

alleyteris 4y ago

You forgot cheap boxed wine

[deleted] 4y ago

I am so god damn glad I got off of obvious social media.

What little remains is all anonymous user ids like this.

Sergey32321 4y ago

His happiness wouldnt matter as much. His wife being infinitely happy is what will get her

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

He should send her a Christmas card every year!

CentralAdmin 4y ago

I hope he married someone younger, hotter and far more loyal.

His ex will silently stalk him on social media for years, jealous of what she could have had.

panzer22222 4y ago

actually less hot is better...OP will look and think WTF he married her and didnt wait for her.

Guys I know who married 'hot' almost always live to regret it, better to marry someone a bit less hotter than your SMV, vastly less chance she will fuck around on you.

As you age the hotter women tend to age quicker than the average chick. Also the hotter women never have to develop a nice personality vs the average chick.

road_laya 4y ago

Marrying someone ugly to make her grateful doesn't work either, they'll just get unearned confidence. They'll look down on you for lowering yourself to her level.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

I hope so too!

I hope he tells her go fuck off too if she contacts him.

This made me furious as I read it. I hope he really has his say with her if she reaches out.

noogai131 4y ago

My first long term relationship said this in regards to travelling abroad and "exploring" because one of her teachers had done the same thing.

I told her if that's how she felt then we were done then and there, and to think carefully about what that meant. Eventually she came to realise that her teacher was just a bit of a skank, we spilt up a long time after for different reasons.

But some women just need to be asked to think what exactly abandoning a long term, happy relationship would entail.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

I think women like that, that want to abandon a happy relationship to see whats out there, so to speak, don't know how to think ahead for the future. All they care about is the here and now and what, in their minds, they deserve. I hate to keep talking about my sister but she is such a perfect example of these women. She left a 25 year marriage with a financially successful man and never had to even work. She threw that all away for some Chad she hooked up with on a visit home that screwed her over in high school. She was like a little teenager talking to him on the phone when she was back home. It was ridiculous. The day she told me she was going back home with me and walking out on her marriage, with two teenage girls, I tried and tried and tried to get her to see she was being stupid. She regrets it so bad now. She would never admit that but it's so obvious. She also refuses to see that her current situation is of her own making. 7 years later, she is still blaming her ex.

[deleted] 4y ago

Or doesn't get married and posts pics every weekend with a new, smoking hot, 20-something.

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[deleted] 4y ago

and posts pics every weekend with a new, smoking hot, 20-something.

Facts

[deleted] 4y ago

I prefer much the 2nd option much. Hurts even more.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

I'm a woman and I think, for me at least, it would hurt so much more if he were happily married to a beatiful woman, inside and out, and children. I think that would be worse to a woman.

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DS_1900 4y ago

Damn that is heartless

h1_flyer 4y ago

I think you are right. Nothing hurts more than to see a happy family.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

It's true! So I hope he is deliriously happy and has it alllllll over his social media so she has to see it. Even this morning I got mad thinking about that woman's post.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

That's what I did. I don't even remember any of my exes for anything other than their vaginas. The women really started dropping out of my life when I stopped being a drug dealer and went to college for Physics. I can count the times I had sex in my 20s on one hand. When I finished college in my 30s I looked around at my options and it was a no brainer to marry the one woman who had been my rock solid friend for years when I was a starving college student and getting rejected by all other women.

The real kicker is she's Asian and Muslim so she looks half her age due to genetics and not partying/drinking. Sometimes she gets the dirtiest looks from women our age at the gym. She's this fit, feminine, friendly submissive 20yr old looking exotic woman with an old man with muscles and a gray beard, lol. We're in the top 0.01% of earners now and retiring in our mid 40s. I'd love to parade her and my kids in front of my exes but honestly, I'm too busy having sex and enjoying life to care.

black_snake_m0an 4y ago

Your beautiful Muslim wife doesn’t care that you have sex with men?

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Of course not. Ignorance is bliss.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

Does she wear hijab? How did you meet her? Are you also Muslim?

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

No hijab. We met on IRC #USA. I'm a Muslim but I don't buy into all the myths.

ShinyBronze 4y ago

What’s IRC? And what myths are you referring to?

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Internet Relay Chat. Go check out "The Power of Myth" by Joseph Campbell.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

I'm so glad you have a great wife!

I had a neighbor that had a muslim wife and she was honestly one of the most beautiful women I'd ever seen. My pug loved her ad her husband as much as he did me. and when she was cooking, the smells coming from her apartment were amazing. She'd often have her door open and he would just wander in like "hey, whatcha cookin?".

I messed up real bad when I was a teenager, I met this amazing guy. But he just wasn't cute enough for my insane self. My father tried and tried to tell me I was being stupid but I thought I knew better. I wanted his loser best friend that was a football star more than him. I was so awful to him.

I reconnected with him on facebook years ago. He is deliriously happy now. Has an amazing wife and life. He's also a millionaire now.

I know I messed up with him. My dad was right about him. He was the best guy I ever dated. I have to live with that though. I only post to him on his public page, never in private messages. I would never want his wife to think I was trying to be inappropriate with him. I feel more regret about what I did to him than regret for being an idiot. I'm terribly happy for him. But that "woman" gene in me tells my brain sometimes "what could have been" but then the sane part of my brain tells that part to shut the hell up.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Yeah it's funny how the common perception of women like FDS is that we're all incels and angry at women for rejecting us. In reality, many of us you never hear from because we've gone our own way and rejected modern women, only to find better women and happiness. The only reason I come in here is because I have 2 boys and I have to teach them the nature of women. Imagine my shock when I learned all about red pill, FDS, WAATGM, Tinder, hook up culture, etc.

askmrcia 4y ago

They tell themselves that we are all incels to make it easy to dismiss everything that's Said here or on the manosphere in general.

Its so obvious now that the term incel lost its meaning because now it means anyone that criticizes women. Instead of an actual guy who can't get sex even if he tried.

I'm willing to bet that most guys on here had girlfriends, were married or still is married. I know a few mods are actually married.

If that wasn't the case then how would we have the experience to even talk about duel mating strategies?

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I'm married and get the incel insult all the time. If I use the word submissive I get called a mysogynyst. Feminism has become a cult.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

That's why I'm here too!

I raised three step sons. When I watched The Red Pill, I was shocked. I made them all watch it with me. I learned while they were growing up about all the challenges men face. Even my ex got screwed by the courts during the custody battle. Their mom and I are great friends and we both worry about women they are meeting. The twins are both master's degrees in their chosen fields but both of them never tell a woman what they do for a living until they get to know them. The red pill opened my eyes so wide. I've made all my friends watch it too. Some of them get it, some don't. Those women that don't, never will. They are stuck in their "women are victims" mentality. Women aren't victims. I've never felt discriminated against because I'm a woman in my life. If anything, I've had more opportunities because I'm a woman. Men are the oppressed ones, IMO. I know I may be prejudiced because of my step sons but knowing they have to go through this crap just to find a decent woman is awful to watch.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

It seems like we're forming a consensus amongst informed men and women. Who knows, maybe one day we'll all be introducing our sons and daughters to peers who will make excellent spouses and leave the whores/Chads to the streets.

As for the red pill movie, I feel like it was about 90% incomplete. It seems to focus on a few issues the men's rights movement covers and nothing else. WAATGM and MGTOW and TRP cover so much more. Hypergamy, solipsism, war brides, dual mating strategy, none of that is covered in the movie.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

What is TRP?

It was a good starting point for a lot of people like me that didn't know anything about men's rights.

You do realize Im about to g google those terms right? lol

panzer22222 4y ago

Better option 1, guy mid 30s would likely be looking to settle down if he hasnt found someone already.

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Option 1 is too blue-pilled for me.

[deleted] 4y ago

These type of women are there own worst enemies.

mistralol 4y ago

Well sorry to tell you that your therapist is wrong. It absolutly your choice and you should blame yourself for your choice after all your choice came with consequances.

Absolutly no sympathy from me. Been in the reciving end of it a couple of times. Only later when the girl tried to get back with me I told her where to go or was involved in something new at the time.

Sometimes you only get one roll of the dice....

panzer22222 4y ago

I was curious and poetic

So wanting to try new dick is 'poetic'.

Funny but i think a few people here can see something poetic in your situation now.

I broke a good man's heart for no good reason, but then I (and my therapist) just have to remind myself that I was doing what I felt was right at the time and I can't blame my former self.

Oh lordy..when a guy fucks up something because it felt right at the time everyone tells him he has to own that shit now. No one is saying he is the victim.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Poetic is her way of saying hypergamous optimization. That whole article is one big rationalization of a woman hitting her epiphany stage, changing her priorities to want a provider instead of an alpha, and then regretting chasing Chad.

[deleted] 4y ago

Her use of the word ‘poetic’ made me sick too.

Traksimuss 4y ago

Just another euphemism for 'I wanted a bunch of dicks'

[deleted] 4y ago

“I wanted a bunch of dicks but also wanted to make myself a virtuous Saint in the process.”

I’d have some respect for her if she could just be honest.

SicilianOmega 4y ago

Roses are red

Violets are dumb

Time to get filled

Up to my nose with cum!

GnomonA 4y ago

The absolute equivocation. She isn't to blame for her own actions, her peers egged her on! She broke his heart, but hers got broke too!! She is a perfect case study in the inability of women to ever accept responsibility for their own decisions. Sure, she wanted her turn on the CC but how could anyone blame her? "Do my actions really need to have commensurate consequences? It's just not fair!!!"

Auth3nticstyle 4y ago

One of womens great tragedies is when they let the "committee" in on their relationship and average/below average (or malicious) minds advise them into oblivion.

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black_snake_m0an 4y ago

My one friend made me miserable. Compared every guy I’d meet to her boyfriend and say she didn’t like them, they weren’t good enough, and if they met her she was a total bitch or would flirt with them.

Her relationship obviously didn’t last, she has severe mental illnesses. But she made me feel so bad about my life. I like not speaking to female friends too often. I don’t need their input, I have never received good advice from a female other than my mother.

road_laya 4y ago

My ex wife worked as a CNA, and which means she will spend her lunch breaks taking advice from some of the worst role models ever. She would come home with some of these sage advice:

"My coworker sleeps in a separate bedroom than her man, and she's happy about that!"

"My coworker stopped having sex with her man, and she's happy about that!"

"My coworker divorced her husband and is now happily co-parenting with him, they are the best of friends!"

Women giving advice are simply just describing whatever they are doing and are justifying and bragging about it in order to climb the social hierarchy.

Harry_Teak 4y ago

On-the-job training, indeed.

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Women never advise well other women: they boycott their sisters on purpose and unconsciously. While we are happy with bros smashing plates or finding a decent woman, they cannot tolerate other women trying to achieve the target, mostly, because most of them will never achieve a high-value man. Check all the dating gurus are single alpha widow moms or single post-wall women.

panzer22222 4y ago

My wife fucken worked with women like this, 20 women all divorced, bitter harpies all of them. She hated it.

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FatherUnbannable 4y ago

So just avoid having female friends in general

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Eastern_T 4y ago

Evolutionary sociology about gendered groups: men group with a high value men in group raise capability in mating, work, fighting and ability to compete of the entire group. Women group is inverse, a high value women reduces other women chance, by giving others less attention, splitting resources obtained.

In general men group tends to move up eliminating or straitening up weakest members, while women groups collapse toward conformity and a low bar, suppressing or as well removing high value competitors.

panzer22222 4y ago

women hate other women.

Al Bunny 'women understand women and they hate each other'

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

"Bud, never try to understand women.

Women understand women and they HATE each other."

Maine_Fluff_Chucker 4y ago

Oh, you mean the divorce cheer club?

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nnnnawalt 4y ago

There's DIVORCE PARTIES?!?!? Googling it came up with some very elaborate themed decorations and cakes. Wow. I guess anything can be a party.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

I have two friends that I feel so lucky to have. They both tell me the truth, no matter what. They don't sugar coat it to save my feelings. If I am doing something stupid, they tell me so. They are married. We discuss most anything important happening in our lives and weigh all options. We call each other out over bullshit. It's the most wonderful relationship with anyone I've ever had and I adore them and their honesty.

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southerncraftgurl 4y ago

I have a really hard time not being blunt with women because of my relationship with my friends. In my head I am constantly telling myself "shut up craftgurl" because a lot of women get offended when you call them on their bullshit. Take my sister, for instance. Sometimes she pulls crap so bad I can't help myself and I have to tell her she's wrong about whatever she is saying or doing. She can't take ANY criticism at all. It "offends" her. I don't understand being that way because me and my friends, we constantly want to improve ourselves so we appreciate each other's opinions and use them to change for the better. I think it is because we have all worked the 12 steps so intently, which is a constant improvement of your insane mind. But my sister and people like her, they can't handle anything you say to them. I usually just listen to my sister now and as little as possible. My biggest hope is that one day she becomes sane but I don't hold out too much hope.

I am really lucky because I have one other female friend that is the same way with me. We tell each other brutal honesty too.

I've been very lucky to have those three in my life. They all three helped me through my divorce. When I wanted to play the total victim, they all refused to let me. What my ex did to me was horrible yes, but I had to figure out what my part of the relationship deteriorating. That was brutally hard to work through. Until the day he left me, I thought I had the perfect life and the perfect marriage. So I immediately became the victim...the wronged woman. They let me be that way for a few days but then that was it. and I am forever grateful. The past few years, because of that, have been a very difficult time of changing things about myself. But if I ever decide to be in a relationship again, I've learned how to be a better woman, a better wife. I think that is one of the reasons why I can't stand women like this woman in this post. For one, they do not give one shit if they destroy a relationship just to get what they want. In this woman's case, what she should have been saying to herself was that she messed up and now he is married and happy and she should be happy for him and NEVER contact him. You do NOT "reach out" to a married man...EVER! I don't just blame the man that cheats, I blame the woman just as much. Sometimes more. If a man is married, even if he comes on to you, you should always respect his marriage and stay away, no matter what he says or does. Your reaction to his actions are a choice. If you choose to do that it shows you care only for yourself and not a marriage, possibly a family with children. If you break up a marriage, you deserve the hell you will live in.

amameyplebbitor 4y ago

They are married. We discuss most anything important happening in our lives and weigh all options.

That's great. Married women shouldn't be friends with single women: those are diametrically opposed lifestyles.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

well now wait, if that were the case I wouldn't have any friends because almost all of mine are married. granted I am not crazy and would never encourage anyone to break up a relationship unless of course it honestly was a bad one.

The couple I'm friends with are my best friends. I was friends with the man for years and he lived with my husband and I after he got sober. We gave him a safe place to live while he was getting it all together. Now he runs a rehab unit in a charity and I have never been more proud of two people in my life. When he met his now wife, she and I loved each other immediately. he says after that he didn't have a chance in the world haha. But as good friends as we are, he and I don't talk privately a lot. When we talk it is almost always with the three of us. We are rarely alone together either out of respect for their relationship. I love their children (they say) more than them, lol. They are truly my family. and we treat each other that way so when one of us is doing or saying something stupid the other two are like "stop the bullshit". When they argue, I'm usually the one sitting there saying "ok you two, make up right now and stop this bullshit" lol. Watching their relationship grow like it has and watching them go from homeless during his addiction to now both being so successful and both getting master's degrees, I feel like the proudest woman in the world. I WANT them to be happy, have the best marriage in the world.
I know women that are jealous of their relationship and given the chance I'm sure they'd be happy if something happened to them. I will cut a bitch over my friends dammit.

amameyplebbitor 4y ago

Certainly there are exceptions but the premise behind the statement in my other comment is that married women and single women live different lives, oftentimes conflicting ones so if they were to engage in activities one of them would've to give in: Either the single woman have to adapt to the married one's life, or vice versa. This is truer if the married woman has kids to take care of and hanging out with her single friend(s) would simply take away from that. I assume not many single women wants to hang out with her married women while the latter is attending her family. They're probably more important things to do from her perspective: Go on that date, go to that party, etc.

southerncraftgurl 4y ago

Very true. I hadn't thought of it that way but it's very true.

Now if you give me a choice of what to do, I will tell my friends to go on a date and leave the kids with me so we can play, lol. And I always go to their house to hang with the kids so that I can love on their dogs too, lol.

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/conductor steps up onto the rostrum

/taps baton

A hush falls over the audience

/Conductor raises his hands

/The orchestra of the worlds tiniest violins begin to play the saddest song just for her

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Blackbarnabyjones 4y ago

THIS.

1500minus12 4y ago

All I can picture is mr krabs playing the violin

DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago

https://youtu.be/k955yMkQCvs?t=70

phishyfingers 4y ago

You can lead a feminist to logic, but you can't make her think!

Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

Logic is mansplaining, ergo a tool of the patriarchy.

[deleted] 4y ago

I'm amazed how her therapist tells her that "she was doing what she thought it was right at the time" and that "she cannot blame herself"? LOL, bitch? Of course, you did it horribly! How delusional you have to be to not see it: stop giving you excuses and be accountable, take responsibility for your actions, and accept your failures. You will never advance in life or get over it that way.

Traksimuss 4y ago

Therapist needs a person to come to her often, not once or twice and issue is solved.

Chgralac73 4y ago

"ou you ODd? well thats ok, you were doing what you thought it was right at the time" "you cannot blame yourself"

tee hee

AdrianWerner 4y ago

the only surprising thing in that story is that the guy isn't married to one of the friends who recommended her to break it off :)

DankCommander7 4y ago

She needs to swallow the bitter pill and allow the turth to take hold. She blew her chance to have a family with a decent man and now she will have to settle for and the best of some cuck thats half the man he was and make the best of it or give up and get ready the spend the rest of your days as a spinster cat lady.

Robotemist 4y ago

They always come back around after life hits them.

Dallas0110 4y ago

Very familiar story for me. This sub helped me realize that her fear of missing out on the big CC and the "college experience" is why she dumped me

Traksimuss 4y ago

She will write you in 5 years, with big mileage and deformed chassis. Just say 'nah' and move on with life.

Friends with benefits met me 6 years after all was over and talked how she missed me and 'we both are not getting any younger, you know. We could have a faaamily'.

I almost choked on food hearing that audacity.

mustangfrank 4y ago

I almost choked on food hearing that audacity.

That is a great line.

[deleted] 4y ago

Bitch please, you are "being punished just because" of your terrible decision-making 'skills':

consulting your single friends who were hip deep into whoring,

not talking to your "more mature and thoughtful" Man at all and simply dumping the choice of break-up on Him,

operating based on what you "felt was right at the time" because this seemingly gem of a decent, committed Man was not enough, the carousel was calling and your innocent, gullible self "deserved to explore".

What you really deserve to explore is living with dozens of cats and dogs, because your hypergamous "gut" shall keep telling you throughout the remainder of your life that you deserve and can have better than the previous Man.

To the streets bitch, to the streets.

panzer22222 4y ago

Its almost like her single friends dont have her best interest at heart!

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They’re all in competition with each other. When they’re spending time together, it’s just to keep up appearances, avoid their existential loneliness, and literally pass the time away with vapid gossip.

They definitely don’t have their best interests at heart. They’re selfish creatures by design.

Sake99 4y ago

She didn't realize that her friends are giving her the selected information that their married lives are great. I'm sure they are sucking another Chad's dick on the side.

[deleted] 4y ago

Can be. Most women will lie to other women about their wonderful life. They post so much shit on social media so other women envy her.

yellomachine 4y ago

There it is, Gents:

"I had it all...... But I FELT......"

Feelings beat logic once again.

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[deleted] 4y ago

She is another sheep of the pack from the emotions religion.

Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

M. Thatcher made a point on this in the "Iron lady" movie.

panzer22222 4y ago

Interestingly even when she was PM, she still ironed her husbands shirts and treated him with respect.

These days most women would prefer cancer to doing that.

Lake-lighthouse 4y ago

Yes

[deleted] 4y ago

She felt entitled to "explore", LMAO. The cock caroussel has many names.

She's only thinking like that because she's reached the wall.

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[deleted] 4y ago

All in all.

She's just another.

Thot in the wall.

Overkillengine 4y ago

Yup and she'd go right back to "exploring" the second she thought she could get away with it.

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mustangfrank 4y ago

Yup and she'd go right back to "exploring" the second she thought she ~~could get away with it~~ were 22 again.

heterotypical 4y ago

Being a slut is \~poetic\~

chuck-u_farley 4y ago

My fiance left when she was 22 saying she want to "be young, have fun, explore, and live life."

[edit: She meant "I want to fuck all your friends and people I meet on business trips." But it was ok, because she "still liked me enough to date me."]

3HardWay 4y ago

They certainly have a way with words.

shugzybossman 4y ago

I'm travelling to find myself

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Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

Eat, pray, love.

DeeplyDisturbed1 4y ago

Can we just call this what it really is?

Binge, Believe, Bang

chuck-u_farley 4y ago

More like: Eat, drink wine, suck cock.

panzer22222 4y ago

Bali has a whole industry called 'kuta cowboys', basically indo guys that fuck western women for money.

nnnnawalt 4y ago

Watched a documentary about this phenomenon. It's actually kinda hilarious how entitled they get thinking this guy is "theirs" now and when it's his turn to be interviewed he reveals he's got like 3 others that are back in their home country that he's plying for money over email.

road_laya 4y ago

I have started to think of it as "prey" instead. It's such a parasitic way of life.

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

"Suck, prey, fuck" should have been the name of the book.

niks2592 4y ago

Don't judge me for my past.

Jihocech_Honza 4y ago

Only God can judge me :-)

Lexeklock 4y ago

:---)

volvostupidshit 4y ago

If only god can slap her from the sky.

ekhfarharris 4y ago

Lmao that reminds me of Buddha's Palm from Kung Fu Hustle haha.

road_laya 4y ago

But... that's worse! How can they be so casual about divine judgement? Haven't they heard about Sodom? It's almost as if they didn't believe in God, at all.

LeomusShoes 4y ago

Seems most don’t believe.

UsingSandAsLubricant 4y ago

Almost close to what happened to me before. She will contact him no matter if he's married or not, just to have her dreams of reconciliation broken again.

Anyhow the therapist need to make money.

incarnate1 4y ago

Missed the best part at the bottom.

Can anyone else relate? (Also, side question, does anyone else feel like men these days aren't nearly as considerate as they were when we were younger? I swear, when I was in college and post-grad and a man would ask me out on a date, it would be to get coffee or ice cream or to a museum. Now it's like all they want to do is just 'grab a drink' and take me home after, if I'm even asked out at all ... sigh.)

Blames her problems on men, the entire fucking gender before any self-introspection, cuz nah.

Doesn't realize she WAS desirable at one point. Now she's a hag and men see she isn't commitment material.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

"You have to treat me like a lady!!! I have a PhD DAMMIT!!!"

Loud-Bottle-7879 4y ago

My biggest takeaway is that the therapist told her it’s okay because she was emotional at the time and there is nothing wrong with acting on emotional impulse. Do NOT give those charlatans known as “therapists” 200 dollars an hour to validate poor decision making.

Enough-Staff-2976 4y ago

The Therapist is so cold hearted that she takes her money and feeds her shit. Her so called friends feeds her shit but it was for free

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

You wouldn't believe the shit the women in the comments fed her.

houseoftolstoy Unchivalrous Christian 4y ago

This is what happens when you do not learn how to appreciate what you have but rather get greedy for a desire to have something else. FOMO at it's finest. She may have said that she loved her boyfriend, but her actions showed she did not mean it.

She should not contact him again, as she has nothing good for him since she destroyed the relationship so she could slut it up. There is no other reason, as you can do everything else in life while still in a relationship. I hope the guy found someone else who actually appreciates him. She may find that out if she contacts him, and it would serve her right.

Pranay_Dogra 4y ago

I mean she wouldn't be going to a therapist if what she did was the "right" choice

The_Important_Stuff 4y ago

She loses all the way around: 1) She'll be heartbroken when she finds out her first boyfriend is married, 2) She has a daily reminder from her friends of everything she's missed by not getting married, 3) The wall is real, 4) Goodbye to having kids, 5) More difficult finding a partner, and 6) First boyfriend is now the "gold standard" to which all future partners will be compared.

Might as well go to the SPCA now

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Nah, she's got at least 5 more years of "you go girl" from women online, 10 more years of cougarville, and then the cats and wine will be her only option. I'm lovin it though. All the whores I fuck in their 20s today will be cougar material in 20 years. Can't wait to run through the cougars in my 60s. I love how they climb on top and spend hours trying to cum... multiple times/day.

trpatty 4y ago

This is what I don’t get. The whole point of dating is to find a partner that you’re compatible with and can enter into a long term union with. Some women are incredibly lucky and find that almost right out of the gate early in life. If dating is all a game, then they’ve won big and won quick. And what do they do instead of hanging onto that? They talk with the other shrews and convince themselves that they should get rid of the good thing that they’ve got and keep playing the game.

Like an addict at a casino. They win a few quick hands and are up big. But do they cash in their chips and realize how lucky they are to have beaten the house? No. They instead switch tables, push all their chips in, and promptly lose everything they’ve made. They then complain how unfair casinos are.

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Overkillengine 4y ago

And then get all bitter when those that managed to get an early windfall wisely invested it in something with stable returns instead of staying in the casino ended up with a far better outcome.

thotts_n_prayers 4y ago

Then after a certain point when they are losing badly and well behind they suddenly her an announcement over the PA that the casino will be closing in 30 minutes...

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CommentingOnVoat 4y ago

Fun story. Worth the read.

Saianna 4y ago

They then complain how unfair casinos are.

oh no. They blame the tables. All the tables :P

kyledontcare 4y ago

19-25 is when a woman can get the absolute best guy possible; after that she's all downhill. Serious guy who are around 28-30 and on their way up and want marriage, love, family, and kids throw each other out of the way for a serious woman in this age range. She deserves everything she got. If she changes there could be some hope but I doubt it. Let her go explore some more.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Nowadays modern women get their backs blown out starting at age 13. By age 19 they've had all their holes filled with cum thousands of times. I remember when I was 16 I could go pick any 14yr old freshman, take her home home for lunch, cum in her, and be back in time class. One actually had "grooves" from prior penises. Many were already loose and stretched out.

kyledontcare 4y ago

I believe you.

therealpkg 4y ago

Classic case of the blind leading the blind. She listened to advice from two other ignoramuses, got the confirmation she wanted, broke this good dude, and now suffers the natural consequences. Boohoo, violins, chickens roosting and shit, whatever.

anykah_badu 4y ago

How can you break up with someone you supposedly love and who's loving you and it's all going well?

That's a lot of words for "I did not love him, I secretly resented him more and more"

I think this is what really happened: After devaluing him for years, she's now back to glorifying him.

If he let her back in, the cycle would just go on and on like that

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Women don't love. That's a Disney fantasy. She was innately scared that she might get stuck with the genetics of a beta, and not optimize her hypergamous strategy to secure an alpha. Now that she's facing the wall, her priorities have changed to want a good provider and she realizes she had that in her ex.

anykah_badu 4y ago

I wouldn't assume the women featured on this sub are normal. They seem to range from painfully immature to severely mentally ill. This one here is probably a full-blown narcissist, and these people cannot love regardless of gender

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Based on the feedback from other men, these women are typical modern women. You'd never see anything on a dating site, singles sub, etc from a traditional woman on here. Traditional women don't use dating sites, aren't single, etc. I think it's like 56.4% of women are unmarried and 45% of working age women will be single their entire lives.

[deleted] 4y ago

My boss did exactly this. She’s very bright and degrees everywhere, good money, and alone. She saidThe Mary Tyler Moore show ruined her expectations ...She assumed the perfect man would be waiting at 30. Her guy was devastated, moved on, and by 30 was two kids deep with a wife of 5/6 years.

Popular culture is a pack of lies.

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[deleted] 4y ago

I mean, you say she took life advice from a TV show and is "very bright"... Sounds like a fkn idiot if you ask me.

polishknightusa 4y ago

On a long thread on redstate, a guy talked about this topic and a woman complained that, quote, her "29 y/o traditional Catholic daughter who graduated summa cum laude" couldn't find a "traditional" man.

I gave her some useful tips, IMO, about how even a woman at 30 can find a fantastic man, perhaps even The One but it will mean NOT sitting in a tower with a dozen dragons around it with the corpses of other suiters as warnings.

It means being "easy". Not easy in that she'll sleep with jerks, but just "easy" to communicate with men in general and to begin a basic relationship (talking) with the kind of man she wants. To be socially adept.

Career women in their 30's are sort of like nerdy men in STEM who lack social skills. The nerdy guys in STEM have time to learn social skills and to leverage their market value as they age, the spinsters don't EVEN IF they are otherwise good looking and sensible.

It's funny that the woman changed her tune and said "How DARE you think you can advise me like that? There are THOUSANDS of eligible men out there who'd love my daughter" and I responded "So.... why isn't she married yet?"

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Overkillengine 4y ago

I remember seeing that comment chain. She did not want to admit that her daughter was a fuckup because then she'd have to admit she herself fucked up the daughter's upbringing to some degree too.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Go check out the AskMen sub. It's got a bunch of women who know nothing about men. They've completely lost all knowledge of seduction, how to be feminine, how to be attractive, submissive, friendly, polite, etc.

Silent-Gur-1418 4y ago

Popular culture is a pack of lies.

And it's deliberate. And that's all the more I can say about it without violating site rules.

nnnnawalt 4y ago

Not surprised to learn this lol.

NoonTimeHoopsMVP 4y ago

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mustangfrank 4y ago

The Mary Tyler Moore show ruined her expectations ...She assumed the perfect man would be waiting at 30.

How fucking stupid can you get?

Fliegendemaus1 4y ago

A good woman can always find herself a good guy at any age. The thing is the odds of finding one on the CC are very slim imo. What guy in their right mind wants to marry the town slut? Not every guy wants to fuck everything that moves, and those who do don't make good husbands either. Say what you will but your past level of promiscuity is a good predictor of the future. I just don't believe in the repentant whore. How proud of your bride would you be, knowing that you could fill a few pews with the guys she fucked on her way to the altar.

ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4y ago

It hasn't changed. Lots of women in their 40s/50s now blame Sex and The City for ruining their expectations "You mean I can't whore around until I'm nearly 40 and then get swept off my feet by a rich handsome Wall St. finance guy with a cock so large his nickname is Mr. Big?!"

Entourage was basically Sex and The City for guys. Only difference is I've never heard any guy say Entourage ruined their expectations of what real life could be (And I lived in LA for several years; even there no guy ever took Entourage for anything more than a fantasy show). Meanwhile, they still have Sex and the City tours in NYC for women who want to pretend and get drunk on Cosmos while spending their month's paycheck on a pair of gaudy heels.

nnnnawalt 4y ago

Because I'm female I made myself watch the entirety of SATC thinking the hype was worth it. It wasn't. Horse-face did so many dumb decisions, story was overall lame af.

I've never been to NYC but of all the things to do there walking around some hotels and fancy boutiques because a scene from a TV show was filmed there seems like the lamest thing to do. I googled it they want 200 bucks for the pleasure too!!

There's like a million movies based in NYC I could probs throw a pebble in any direction and hit a building that was part of a scene somewhere.

Ahiru_no_inu 4y ago

This makes me happy I trusted myself when I met my boyfriend at age 16. We both knew it felt right and now 17 years later we are still madly in love.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Many of the older couples I know married their high school sweethearts or someone from college. My high school sweetheart aborted our kid and ran off with Chad. I pretty much arranged my own marriage, acted as my own matchmaker. It just so happens that none of the stuff that we're told matters in long term marriages, actually matters. Attraction is only temporary. Money comes and goes. People change with time. There is no perfect person.

Ahiru_no_inu 4y ago

True but if you talk with your partner about how you are feeling about changes often it helps. My relationship has been lots of work for sure but we know if we sit down and talk we can always find an answer. We are still young I'm 33 and he is 36. No kids for a few reasons but we are happy together. Us meeting was pure luck though. I spotted him across the room at an anime convention and thought he was attractive with his long hair.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Yeah I got my wife through sheer dumb luck as well. At some point, you gotta roll the dice but if you both have good intentions, it works out. I think my wife had our first son at 33 and 2nd at 40. I'm 46 now and I love my 6yr old but god damn I'm too old to be sleeping with a 6yr old. I'll be 58 when he becomes an adult. My grand-kids will be very young when I reach my life expectancy. It's highly unlikely I'll live to see my great-grand kids. There are benefits and consequences to waiting to have kids. Biology doesn't care about our life aspirations. Just don't be one of those women who waits too long and then gets short-changed by their ageing reproductive system.

Sake99 4y ago

Her friends were jealous of her and urged her to break up. Now she is jealeous that they got away with it and she is the unfortunate one.

amameyplebbitor 4y ago

Peer pressure is a bitch and as post-wall woman, she's regretting her decisions. The Wall remains undefeated and the CC remains uncleaned.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I've actually had women try to tell me they don't age out of the sex market, there is no wall, they can have kids into their 50s, they'll be able to pull Chads forever, etc.

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mitigated-disaster 4y ago

Of all the posts that have hit this sub. This one speaks to me on a deep level. It's the exact same thing that happened to me.

I was 21 so was she and said pretty much the same thing, it threw into a pretty severe depression. Honestly the worst time in my life and I grew up in an abusive home, been homeless etc.

All I can say is I'm 'grateful' it happened. But even reading this post makes me say 'ouch'.

Expensive-Argument-7 4y ago

This just happened to me too. I was caring and attentive and made a great effort to be an understanding partner. But all I got was I’m not enthusiastic or excited about you. I know people well enough to know that this could be decision she’ll most likely regret.

StevenStooch 4y ago

She is selfish enough to reach out, and will; even if she knows that he’s happy and in a relationship. They always do.

nnnnawalt 4y ago

Yeah been together with my boyfriend for 8 years this year his most recent (cheating) ex reached out. (He showed me the chat) Long story short she still didn't quite get why her cheating actions (and hence betrayal) basically contradicted her empty platitudes of "loving him". Had ironically since been in a relationship where she was cheated on.

Oh and in these 8 years her stance on marriage has changed. She apparently was fully against it when they were together but now is positive on it. He found out because she had not so subtly inquired why we weren't married yet.

Honestly reading that log felt like reading this sub. My gender/sex/whateverthefuck seem to all read off the same manual.

StevenStooch 4y ago

Even after she got cheated on, she still doesn’t understand how she impacted him? I mean…in what world does she live?

nnnnawalt 4y ago

In a world where love is like a movie playing in a theater and you can walk out of it anytime. At least that's how she was like when she cheated since supposedly she's positive on marriage now.

We don't really know why she reached out. Despite the cheating she was the one that ultimately pulled the plug on the relationship because she didn't want to deal with his heartbreak. (Her stance back then had been that he had no right to be upset about the cheating in the first place. They were only fuckbuddies he was "special" to her.)

I met him a month after the breakup and we became a couple very quickly. According to her in this recent chat she was actually still "heartbroken" but he had already moved on with me. Supposedly back then she had wanted to stay "friends" but he didn't.

My suspicions are she wanted him to remain an "option" while she rode all the horsies on the carousel full time. I don't doubt she partially reached out to see if he might be single.

StevenStooch 4y ago

Dang, I completely agree with your assessment based on your story. There’s some sort of sick enjoyment that (in my case women, maybe men do it also?) is gotten from knowing someone is there to be toyed with. It’s terrible. I have one girl from 20 years in my past that just can’t stop herself; she wants me to be the easily-manipulated person that I once was. She can’t handle that I’m not, so she reaches out every couple of years. “We used to mean so much to each other, how can we not know each other anymore?”. It’s a really shit thing to do to someone that you hurt. Let them get over you if they’re not for you, right? I have no doubt that your guy’s ex is fixated on having that control, addicted to being wanted. I mean, there’s selfish and there’s SELFISH, no?

nnnnawalt 4y ago

It's kind of like a shark sniffing for blood. Except they're sniffing for weakness. They always try to seem so innocuous too. Unrelated to the ex one time a woman tried to sow discord by messaging me out of the blue (I didn't know her prior to this) claiming she was with my boyfriend and that she was "sorry" she didn't know he was "such a player". He was acquainted with her through work and she heard about his bike trip with a couple guys cuz he was gonna be absent from the office for like a week. She messaged me after he left for the trip. Oh yeah the guy that hates the single mom epidemic is definitely gonna leave his childless mid-20s girlfriend for a single mom in her mid-40s... uh huh... very desperate and very delusional.

20 years?! You'd think she'd get no means no at some point. Let me guess does she try to reach out when some sentimental date is coming up? Like christmas or some old anniversary etc. etc. Romantic reunions after a decade or two rarely work outside of movies.

Ah well not my circus not my monkeys how any of these thots deal with being alone during the pandemic (my theory). I'll hit the wall myself eventually but by then I'll hopefully be a Mrs. with kids.

StevenStooch 4y ago

Do you think women are worse to each other, or to men? Sounds like that chick was trying to fuck with you for zero possible reason. Did it make her feel better knowing she MAY have made you feel insecure? What kind of move is that? And why??

Sadly, no, my ex doesn’t even remember what my birthday is. We were very close, then dating for a period of 7-8 years (period pun not intended). Last time I saw her was was at a wedding of a mutual friend. I asked her how her mom was; her mom actually really liked me and wanted us to work out. She said “do you know my mom is a lesbian now?”. I said “You don’t remember that I was the one that got you through that?!” I mean, I guided her through that whole mess. Her response to that was “no, I don’t remember things like that”. These are exact quotes, no embellishment. She doesn’t give af what we meant to each other, and will never acknowledge it. But shortly after that, she was like, “So, can we start talking again?”. I looked at her like, are you fucking serious?! You can’t make this shit up. I lived this.

You don’t hit the wall if you treat people well. Sounds like you’ll be more than fine.

nnnnawalt 4y ago

It's hard to say who they are worse to because they act differently towards men than they do women. With a man a woman usually is pretty clear what she thinks of him. Women will not hide their scorn towards men they consider "less" than them.

Between women it's more psychological and faking friendships to gain something from the relationship. Hence why the word "frenemies" almost exclusively applies to female friendships. If you ever go to a bar and see a group of girls with one that is clearly less hot than everyone else you should feel sorry for her because at every opportunity she will notice her "lesser" status even if the other girls don't rub it in.

The chick I guess in her delusion thought that if she could convice me that he cheated on me I'd dump him. It wasn't against me per se, she just assumed she could get him as long as he was single. Not like men have free will or anything.

Wow that's about the laziest way I've heard of someone trying to get back with their ex. "Can we just be together again?" How does she know she wants you anyway if she can't remember those important moments? Forgive me for expecting more.

Eh physically I will hit it one way or the other. Puberty already took it's price with stretch marks due to a constant growth spurt between 12-16. (5'9) Tho the wall seemed to be gentle with mom and grandma's faces who are lifelong smokers and I'm not. I just never tried to rely on looks to coast through life (To be fair I'm a 6-7 I'm not sure if I could!) So any loss felt about aging will just be my vanity not because I suddenly feel like I became invisible.

UsingSandAsLubricant 4y ago

By living that experience before, I do agree.

Chgralac73 4y ago

ou look her TheRapist is indulging her delusions, that it "felt" right at time. 9/10 its another female.

and yeah sure, reach out after you screwed every dick from NY to Timbuktu ...

also a lot of thrusting into her guts went on tee hee

shitmcshitposterface 4y ago

Leave him the fuck alone please

chuck-u_farley 4y ago

Ahhh "friends": I'm miserable, so you must be miserable.

I mean, a sort of (not really) feel bad for women sometimes. Their friends, TV, social media, supermarket mags all push this set of lies that is designed to make them miserable and coming back for more "advice."

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

It's the woman's curse: hypergamy. Don't feel bad, men have their own curse: altruism.

No_Exercise_8670 4y ago

I 'trusted my gut' in the past and had broken up with a couple of women only to find out later that I did the right thing=)

ekmogr 4y ago

I trusted my gut, broke up with her and she came back... and now I regret that.

Saianna 4y ago

Best part? THERAPIST helped her push the blame away from her.

whymen can't make no mistakes. Not yesterday, nor today, nor ever. The "fault" is a strange concept that simply doesn't belong to uterus owner.

Her "friends" are pieces of garbage that must have celebrated the day she broke with the guy. Definitely did it to f with her hapiness.

Also I can already see it. Sooner or later she will contact him with all puppy eyes and whimpering noises and will try to squeeze in into his life.

[deleted] 4y ago

Well if the therapist doesn't tell her what she wants to hear, the therapist will lose a customer!!

Saianna 4y ago

funny how the first thing i thought of was thinking of a Chad the party fuckboy. He'll say anything just to get to girls panties, while therapist will do exactly the same, but aims for wallet instead.

Cissnowflake 4y ago

After years of hearing people tell me “my therapist told me [the most ridiculous shit possible],” I am starting to wonder if maybe these people are hearing what they want to hear, not what the therapist actually said.

Saianna 4y ago

or those therapists are in fact best friends who lack any common sense, but they sure have some amazing advices

Cissnowflake 4y ago

Also a real possibility

rayedward363 4y ago

This seems to be the common path that all these "I just want to find myself" women find themselves in. It's just that when the 30+ woman tries to warn all the younger girls about how massive of a mistake it was, she gets ignored.

road_laya 4y ago

But they don't warn the younger girls! Are they telling high school girls to save themselves for marriage?

rayedward363 4y ago

Not all of them, most still think that they're "the real catch" or "cougars" but every now and then you see one post a story trying to warn others. Just too little too late though.

thotts_n_prayers 4y ago

I hope he's happily married and the only response she gets is 'seen'

EndTimesDestroyer 4y ago

She was trusting places a little more south than her 'gut'.

Pie_sky 4y ago

Always interesting how a woman's friends are their worst enemies.

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

Explore

Allow me to translate. I have taken your cock, my loyal, good and faithful boyfriend but I am curious what other cocks feel like. What about the thick ones? Or the thin, long ones.

I need to let them EXPLORE my inner self before I settle down and be faithful.

Cuz, you know, if I spend my life being an unfaithful whore, I will just turn it off after I have taken the required number of dicks up my swing swang.

Ok-Adeptness4906 4y ago

100 years ago, when women were spinsters at 25, she'd have married Mr. Right at 22, and had a husband, home, and children by 30.

You've come a long way, baby.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Wahmynn: "30 is young. I won't be ready for marriage until I'm 40"

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illhaveubent 4y ago

How else are therapists supposed to get repeat customers?

The_Frag_Man 4y ago

This is sad

NoFaithInThisSub 4y ago

lol, 3x0 = 0, because that's how many brains between them. Clearly 2.5 years of love can be flushed down the dunny, much like the fetus you dont want via hormones and birth control. "so you much to explore" of course, when the vastness was your head and the emptiness where your brain and soul were supposed to be.

You the-rapist is wrong, blame yourself and your banged up ho mates.

SCCock 4y ago

So the counselor says that she did was was right at the time.

Well, well, well, apparently not or they wouldn't be having this conversation.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

She was right at the time, but she's no longer right now. See, women leave out the parts they don't like.

ginger_snap14 4y ago

To be fair, I think there’s a pretty significant difference between telling her she did the right thing, and telling her she did what she THOUGHT was right at the time. My takeaway from that wasn’t that the therapist thought she made a good choice.

nitro-666 4y ago

Everybody thinks they are doing the right thing, otherwise they would do a different thing, obviously. That "counselling" amounts to nothing.

frifrini 4y ago

Doesn't matter still female shenanigans. Never willing to take responsibility of their actions

BluepillProfessor 4y ago

She still validated her bad choice.

Rapport (therapist) = $$$$ and return business

Rapport (female client) = listen to me bitch and whine and emote but don't judge.

Therapists have replaced husbands. This is why so many single women are in therapy. They need somebody to vent and bitch at and their is no man willing to put up with their bullshit so they use a therapist.

That means, therapists are like bartenders- nothing but sex workers.

Neldot 4y ago

You nailed it, after all the therapist job is not to blame her for the wrong choices she made, but to make her accept that she made wrong choices and live with it without (too many) guilty feelings.

ogrilla99 Pez "The Pussy Dispenser" Pimp 4y ago

No, that's not the therapist's job. The therapist's job is to help her make correct decisions now and in the future. The past is past. There's no changing it. Agreed. But if you don't have an honest reckoning about what you did wrong in the past, and why, then how are you ever going to keep from making the same mistakes now?

This therapist is enabling her bad behavior. The OP already knows she did the wrong thing 8 years ago. The problem isn't that the guilt is killing her (she's not suicidal. She doesn't even say she's depressed, only that she regrets her action and thinks it was a mistake). The problem is that she hasn't learned from that mistake, and will undoubtedly make the same mistake again, especially because she has a stupid therapist telling her that doing what you think is right at the time automatically removes any responsibility if it turns out that actually, it was the wrong thing, and you were mistaken.

If someone starts smoking at 20 and has lung cancer at 40, do we say "well, you thought smoking was the right thing to do at the time (it made you look cooler, all your friends were doing it, etc. etc). So it's okay. You're not to blame for getting lung cancer". Bullshit. We say "your smoking caused you to get lung cancer. If you don't understand what drove you to smoke in your 20s, you'll fall prey to the same temptations in the future, leading you to continue to make poor decisions about your health, including about the lung cancer you're currently facing."

BeholdTheHair 4y ago

I have a fairly similar story I've told here before. When I was 18 I dated an incredible girl who was head over heels for me. Gorgeous, witty, pleasant to be around and knew she wanted to be a wife and mother from the word go. Which isn't to say she didn't have her flaws, same as any other woman, but there was a damned solid foundation upon which to build.

Unfortunately, because I was 18 and didn't know my ass from a hole in the ground (and because I'd effectively been raised without a father because he was at work all the time, so I never learned to take responsibility for shit and the idea of having children scared the hell out of me), I broke up with her after 8 months together and chased an incredibly short-lived and ill-advised fling with her chubby friend who'd been making moon eyes at me because she was jealous of what her friend had.

Not two months later she met a new guy who was smart enough to realize what a catch she was and wife her up a year or two after they got together. They moved to the next town over and have two adorable little girls.

Meanwhile I've been single for literally half my life and that doesn't look to be changing any time soon.

Difference between me and this woman: I understand I made a mistake and there ain't no going back. It sucks that ignorance can be so expensive, but that's life. Just gotta' pick up the pieces, learn what you can and keep moving forward.

ZZT-OOPsIdiditagain 4y ago

Oof. o7 brother. I hear ya. I love the wife i ended up with and it beats the shit out of being an incel, which I suffered for half a damn decade, but once upon a time I genuinely had the beginnings of a fairy tale romance.

pinguthewingu 4y ago

Plow on brother! It is good you realised you made a mistake, you will only grow from strength to strength from now onwards

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Live and learn, I guess. Your SMV at that age is very low and your MMV is almost nonexistent. At least this way you have the opportunity to grow into the man you want to be by yourself, hit peak SMV and MMV, and then make a rational decision to be with someone for the rest of your life and not be a stupid teenager that looks a gift horse in the mouth.

BeholdTheHair 4y ago

Eh, I think people generally grow better together, which is kinda' the whole point. I'm in a much better place now than I was 18 years ago, but given the choice between meeting and settling down with someone now vs accomplishing the same goal without having spent half my life alone and miserable, I know which I'd choose.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I hear that. I spent most of my 20s alone. If I had the love and support of a good woman it would've been twice as easy... but then I'd probably wind up like my neighbor: no ambition, no grit.

BeholdTheHair 4y ago

See, my observation has been married fathers work harder than bachelors like myself precisely because they know they're responsible for the wellbeing of others.

I want to do well in my job and move up the ladder but I very rarely work overtime. I make more than enough to pay my own way and play however I want to on the side, so the prospect of the extra pay I could earn holds very little appeal. Put simply, my free time is worth more to me than the extra money I might make.

Contrast that with the fathers I know, who generally put in 50+ hours/week as a matter of course and are always looking for ways to bring more home to take care of their families with.

Granted, this comes with its own issues. My parents have been together for nearly 50 years and my Dad busted his ass to provide for our family, but by the time I came along he was spending so much time at work every week I was, in some respects, effectively raised without a father. I appreciate how hard he worked and the sacrifices he made, I understand he was doing the best he knew how and it's easy for me to critique his performance with the benefit of hindsight, but I still can't help but wish he could have figured out a way to spend less time at the office and more with his kids. It would be nice to actually know who my father is and have a real relationship with him. As is I barely know the man.

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

I'd suggest you get to know your father while he's still alive. I was working my ass off when I heard that song "Cats in the cradle" and it floored me. I set myself up to never have to work again so I can be there every moment of my sons' lives. IDGAF if my dad was a blue pilled beta short ugly guy because he was also an airbourne vet of the Korean war, ranch tough, hard working, intelligent, kind, etc. A man's man. And men need other men, especially in this day and age. When he was on his death bed I asked him who had been the most influential person in his life. Sure as shit it was a man, a wrestling coach that took on a mentoring role.

LaLa_Land543 4y ago

I see the common denominator in many of these Single Women Tears screenshots often boil down to : I listened to my friends. As a woman, I learned early on in middle-/high-school and beyond that female ‘friends’ are not that at all. As a result of those lessons learned early, I’ve kept female friendships at an arms-length because they don’t have your best interests in mind. If I need advice, I have and always will turn to my family. I’m fortunate to have parent role models, married for 46 years, as my template. And now I have a husband who is my support system as well. Women, single or not, are certainly not the authority on dating or relationships. The vast number of whiny blogs about singlehood or dating advice are not from women who have successfully navigated the dating market.

TLDR; women looking for relationships need to stop thinking other women can guide them or tell them what men want. Developing a personality with real values that goes beyond ‘I can do better’ or that shopping is a hobby goes much further than the current Woe Is Me or feminist strategies these people think is the shortcut. They are not interesting and therefore have nothing to offer any man. Why is this so hard for women to understand?

MrNeurotypical 4y ago

Try telling that to FemaleDatingStrategy. The entirety of feminism is "women are victims of the patriarchy" and so all things flow from that. Only women can tell other women what men want because men are the evil oppressors.

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4. No brigading, doxxing or witch-hunting. Do not look for the individuals posted here, nor ask or give their personal info/social media, nor ask or give the source or you will be banned and reported to the admins. See here and here.

Rules for submission:

5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
9. Other content may be posted on the weekends. See the types of content we allow.

Recommended reading:

Link Flair:

The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
New Carols Unlocked!- A list of all the Carols we've identified.

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