
Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
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Created By kevin32
Dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man", to show women's poor dating behavior and unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves.
We're just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys™ with kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes so that the sex we're "entitled to" falls out. Because apparently we weren't demonstrating good relationship material through the attention, respect and stability that women demand. We were only "pretending" to be nice just to get laid.
In response to r/niceguys, this forum is dedicated to exposing all the women who complain about wanting a "good man" after dating jerks and riding the cock carousel in the prime of their youth, and think they're deserving of commitment and financial stability when all they have left to offer is their depreciating looks, narcissistic mentality, used-up vaginas, and another man's kids.
Women in their 20s have numerous opportunities to date the decent men they claim to want, but many reject or friendzone these men for jerks and promiscuity. She takes advantage of a good dude's kindness for attention and favors, then accuses him of being a bad person who thinks he's entitled to sex.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciating looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married friends, she asks "Where have all the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys "Being nice is the bare minimum", but now that she's past her prime and needs a bailout, she wants a man with nice guy traits.
Furthermore, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a good man is planned by many women, and encouraged by feminists. They then come to the dating market with unreasonable standards while offering little to no value themselves. Such women are totally unaware that the mature, stable men they now need are the same decent men they rejected, except these men remember the rejection and are responding in kind to avoid unstable, unappreciative women who view them more as ATMs than romantic partners.
The reason women end up here is because their behavior is not exposed as the lucid, self-destructive, feminist ideology that it is. And we're here to help Good Men guard their commitment and resources by exposing women who would make poor life partners and mothers of their children. Providing observations and opinions on the posts here allows us to better understand women's psyche and later depressive/miserable state when they are not held to a moral standard required for healthy, functioning relationships.
Rules of conduct:
1. No shaming men for any reason.
2. No white-knighting or NAWALT. This is not a debate forum.
3. No comments such as "Her profile looks decent", "She's not asking for much", "At least she's honest". No comments saying a post is fake without proof. Proof must be sent via modmail.
Rules for submission:
5. Submissions must show a woman who is looking for commitment while also either complaining about jerks or promiscuity, needing her kids provided for, being entitled or unreasonable, or complaining that she "can't find a decent guy". (Examples, details)
5b. No posts of women who are merely fat, post-wall, unattractive, seeking sex or money, nor women merely behaving badly. (Examples NOT allowed)
6. No personal information in dating profiles or social media accounts. Take a screenshot and censor all names, social media, hometown, school, and place of work. Additionally, censor any children's faces if their mommy included them in any profile photos.
7. No links to any subreddits or websites, nor crossposts where the OP is a woman. For articles use archive.is. For Reddit use a censored screenshot. Screenshots must contain the full story. No links to any women's Youtube, TikTok, etc. videos. Use Streamable.com to upload videos after censoring them through Musicaldown.com.
8. We accept images from Imgur, Postimage, and ImgBB.
Recommended reading:
Dating profiles showing women's Dual-Mating strategy and unreasonable standards
OkCupid study shows women reject 80% of men based on looks alone
Milo - The Sexodus: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
Women Want to Know Why Men Don't Want to Marry Anymore...Allow Me
WAATGM mod explains why promiscuous women can't get good men to commit.
Okay, I get it. You're sick of hearing men complain about girls only dating assholes.
Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore
Dear Single Moms: I wasn't your type then, why am I all of a sudden your type now?
The Truth About Single Moms Who Bring Young Children To The Dating Market
Carol asks WAATGM for the harsh truth after riding the carousel
Link Flair:
The Big Question- Carol asks "Where are all the good men?", "Why can't I find a decent guy?", "What happened to chivalry and respect?"
Bailout- Carol wants a man to help raise her kids and provide financial stability.
Leftovers- Carol whines about how hard dating is as an older woman.
Dual-Mating Strategy- Carol admits to promiscuity and dating jerks but now wants a good guy to settle down with. Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
Cock Carousel Rider: Carol complains about being single while having a history of promiscuity.
Entitlement Princess- Carol has unreasonable standards while offering little to no value herself.
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CookiesNova 5y ago
vaginas don’t work that way, virgins
dentedgal 5y ago
This is the new incel sub it seems.
So much r/badwomensanatomy
CookiesNova 5y ago
i agree
doombybbr 5y ago
"depreciating asset" you get my upvote just for that
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Girls in the UK get passed around in uni like crazy. Minimum 30 guys by the time she graduates with her worthless degree. Pro tip: if your talking to a uni girl on tinder treat her like absolute scum and watch her chase you
Thetrvler 5y ago
Facts.
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
They found something ridiculous like 60% of university girls in the uk are on just one sugar daddy finding website.
Absolutely disgusting
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Which site?
That's absolutely fucking vile, Who the fucks raising these girls. As far as I'm concerned the UK is already Japan, No way I would have a kid with one of these things
Flesh_Pillow5 5y ago
I knew a girl, masters degree student, economics, middle upper class background. She openly testified to having had sex with over 80 men.
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Doesn't suprise me, That's just 1 guy every 2 weeks.
If your in uni accommodation girls go crazy and can fuck daily if they want to
ButMessiDeservedIt 5y ago
I'm in the UK & lived in uni accommodation.... Damn I missed out.
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Same rules don't apply for guys that go uni I'm afraid haha - Especially if it was a good uni or STEM
Flesh_Pillow5 5y ago
The other girl I shared a house had numbers in the 30s. I gave her dose after dose of redpills. Surprisingly hot women don't seem have a need to hide female nature. And she confirmed pretty much all of it. Funnily despite me bearing witness to her unconscious hypergamy in close proximity she had the audacity to tell me she eventually wanted a man of her age, whose high value, whose a provider but wants to be equal in a marriage. I informed her that it is unlikely to occur as she's only aesthetically pleasing and at 26 she's not a long term investment worthy of the kind of commitment she seeks. Women's idea of equality is not equality aswell. As they get older not only is their value reduced because of fertility/looks, but also entitlement. A young thot is content with cinema, the older ones want the world. Part of me feels UK women are much colder than the US. It's that crazy.
ButMessiDeservedIt 5y ago
Much colder for sure. Also, UK women are also not as good looking as the ones in America let alone Europeans. These UK bitches can't compete with fit Europeans who are much nicer and friendlier. (My experience in the UK & Europe)
Flesh_Pillow5 5y ago
Women here drink more units of alcohol than the men. They out drink us, probably out smoke us too. I've known girls who use abortions as birth control, she was BP, on meds, she told me when she flips, her sun needs to be taken away from the room. That scared me. UK women are less articulate aswell and hedonistic. They're much more prepared to tear down a man and aggressive. They tend to be highly influenced by American urban culture aswell. Pregnant at 15 is common. The attitude though is the most unattractive thing though. When I see a woman tear down a man, she becomes instantly ugly.
djkbrown2001 5y ago
True. Pretty uk women are few and far between.
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
You told her the right thing haha. There's absolutely no way I would invest in a girl with that many bodies, Never gonna happen. It just takes anything special and meaningful out of sex with their future SO and that's what they are not understanding.
Flesh_Pillow5 5y ago
Funnily enough I was redpill raging at the time, the red pills were not so soft, she was the typical, blonde, blue eyes, big natural tits, only alil baby fat so just a skinny rather than fit like true fitness, she was more IG girl filter fit. She was secretly seeing a Chad on the course. I made a promise to myself to personally redpill her nice guy bf if I ever got the chance. It was under the guise of manly advice to make him more proactive in the relationship is what I told her. I wss going to tell him to open his eyes; his young, he has a mortgage, he works in London In finance, his 2 years younger than her and he has a gf that would openly shame the sex she has with him,. I was going to tell him that all his qualities dont match up with his choice of thot and that at 24 he should replace with an 18 year old version if he feels the need. He was a virgin till her. He also orbitted her while she was a in a toxic relationship with Chad. She was still secretly meeting the Chad aswell to "just talk" apparently, this despite him being a new father and in a relationship. Funnily enough even though she knew I had no respect for her, she enjoyed my company, I literally refused to look at her tits when my housemates begged her to show them,not a glance, not validation from me. I wouldn't greet her unless she greeted me first, I spoke up about how some of her mates and her probably have fishy buckets and how her best mate was clearly NPD and that's why their friendship is toxic(which is actually advice I suppose) and to never expect me to go clubbing with them. I expected conflict but I got respect. I told her she's at best a 6. Her view of men was almost completely as a utility, she couldn't understand why her orbitor stopped taking her to the gym after she frienzoned him. I had to explain that that's not her friend, he was an orbiting because of the signals she sends out. She was leading him. I told her that the favours she was getting are the kind you do for your gf and that now he has withdrawn those favours because his realised it's a lost cause. She couldn't get it. She felt cheated and entitled to his favours. The guy was another decent well put together guy, good body, handsome face, degree, job offer in London. The potentiality that's she could've tapped into is gone. Hopefully those men have realised their self worth. At the time I was actively redpilling any young man I thought had the propensity to unplug. I would blast tom leykis in the kitchen and invite a house of 8 people with 3 males to listen in on my speaker. Those boys still call me to this day.
jihocech 5y ago
Well done.
Flesh_Pillow5 5y ago
Thank you
djkbrown2001 5y ago
Good spread the word.
My gf and her friend could not understand when early in the relationship I told her I do not chase women.
She was like ,well my ex chased me.
Too many women out there for me to play games and chasing women playing hard to get when I know they are not hard to get.
Overkillengine 5y ago
And sometimes they slip up when trying to cajole you into doing what they want like so:
Worked great for him didn't it lol? All that work and didn't get to keep her.
Nelu31 5y ago
You eat your moms ass with that mouth alabamaboy?
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
No just your mum's arse at the mo
Nelu31 5y ago
Just slightly better than a "no u" but i'll give it a pass
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Yeah I know you are but what am I?
Nelu31 5y ago
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DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Another one? I only know of 3,Im not bashing women in general though and neither does anyone here
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NotLuceBree 5y ago
Karen?
'Zat you?
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Do you have a worthless degree? If not it shouldn't bother you. I didn't say all women get useless degrees.
If it makes you feel better most degrees in the UK are worthless, People just going to uni for the "experience".
You misread me good sir, that has no relevance to what I said
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Airman07 5y ago
Whats values are you talking about? 60% divorce rate is why a lot of people are here.
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Airman07 5y ago
Seems like you just wanted to reply to something. You never stated any values which is what i asked of you. Your first 7 paragraphs is indeed rambling. Answer the question.
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DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
I'm in a LTR lady, Not all women are as disgusting as the ones shown here. Please stop pestering me with this shit if you don't like it leave, Your clearly in the wrong place if your not a realist or your in a blue pill fantasy.
I said to treat a uni girl like scum on tinder and see how she chases you, I didn't say "TREAT ALL WOMEN LIKE SHIT BECAUSE THERE BITCHES", Got it?
The reason I say to to treat them like scum is because you will see how suddenly they start to chase you, If you treat a uni girl respectfully (assuming they spend there time at uni getting fucked by a load of men ((which I am))) thhey will not reply to you. Simple.
Why this happens? 1)Shes bored of men being nice to her because every man is nice to her to try to get laid and she has been desensitized 2)Deep down she might actually feel like shit for sleeping with so many men therefore responds to the way your mean to her 3)Obvious one is similar to reverse psychology
The last part is me just trying to explain my observations and Obviously are not fact. I've spoken to enough uni girls to know this is the case though.
****Just saw your profile. Hilarious I can see why your so defensive about this. Not gonna argue with a gonewild girl. Cya
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DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
Lmao.
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MosleyCirca1936 5y ago
"If I was a man you wouldn't even bat an eyelid"
This line always kills me. I'm a heterosexual man. I'm looking for a quality woman. I don't care what other men do because I'm not looking for a man to marry and spend my life with.
DontNeedMuchMoney 5y ago
There's nothing wrong with enjoying sex... with your SO.
Unusual_Chair 5y ago
Oh I know she is upset when she was told that there are younger versions of her out there that will easily replace her. You told her right man.
Honest_Solution 5y ago
I love her straw man argument. First of all it’s MUCH harder for most guys to have multiple partners. A woman can get anyone to fuck her anytime she wants. A man has to work his ass off to get laid.
Captain_of_Skene 5y ago
There's all this evolutionary psychology, as well as anecdotal evidence from women themselves, explaining how many risks are involved in sex for women and how costly it is for them
Even though there are real risks involved in having sex for women, getting the DNA of Chad and Tyrone inside them outweighs the risks from an evolutionary perspective, and is simply more important to women
They crave sex from these alpha males during their reproductive prime - their sex drive is totally directed at these high status men
The rest of us get to match with 30 year old Beckies on Bumble with crow's feet on their faces who are "here for a long time, not a good time"
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RRFdev 5y ago
A woman only sleeps with manwhores and mirrors herself to match the manwhore's personality. This is one of the main reasons why you see these sluts having tattoos, piercings, and proudly proclaiming to be 'intimidating', 'cuss like a sailor', and 'one of the boys'.
beenthere789 5y ago
Well analyzed and well put.
thoroughlythrown 5y ago
"To be a stud you have to be witty, charming, well dressed, have nice shoes and a fake job. To be a slut you just have to be there" - Jim Jeffries
BigTerts 5y ago
RIP Jim Jefferies.
wetsuit509 5y ago
Lol, dude, Jim Jeffries is still alive. But, if you’re referring to his Comedy Central show, yeah too bad about that.
BigTerts 5y ago
I meant RIP to the good JJ. Then he went all woke.
wetsuit509 5y ago
Yep, another one bites the dust.
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KabyBlue 5y ago
Stopped reading after that gas lighting tactic often used by women. Please elaborate who exactly a "real man" is and what characteristics they have.
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MrGneissGuy 5y ago
Did you just make a argument for incest? Jk I’m only having fun.
caringerin 5y ago
I have a question— some men seem to think that sex with a lot of men makes the vagina looser... but what about the same man? Do they tell their women “No, sorry, we have already had sex twice this week. We have to wait a few days, I have to ration your pussy so it doesn’t get used up so fast”
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
Oh look another 4/10 cunt with an OnlyFans account and lots of opinions no one cares about.
caringerin 5y ago
It was a legitimate question, not even being sarcastic. I am genuinely wondering if men who think that sex with multiple partners stretches a woman out, feel the same way about women who have a lot of sex with their monogamous partner. And if so, would they want to limit the sex they have with their partner to not “use them up” so quickly.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
I know right? There’re so many flaws to their logic. I think other people here misinterpreted what you were saying.
uglyblackguy123 5y ago
Roastbeef pussy seethe.
caringerin 5y ago
Thanks. I just feel like there are actually men who think that there’s a difference in “vaginal stretching” If a woman has sex with a different man every day, vs. if they had sex with their monogamous partner every day. Like, do these guys think that daily sex with their girlfriends/wives is “stretching them out”? Have they thought about it that far?
theDukesofSwagger 5y ago
It’s less about the physical technicalities of fucking multiple men (except STDs), and more about what it says about her.
caringerin 5y ago
Of course, it’s totally fine to prefer being with people who take sex more seriously and have more strict prerequisites for sleeping with someone. I guess I was just referring to the “gaping vagina” thing in the title.
BigSluttyDaddy 5y ago
All these people live in an imagined world where they can mentally control the concepts that overwhelm and isolate them.
Explaining reality to them is fruitless. There's less than a single reason apologizing to them for trying though. They purposefully hide from facts because they can only handle living terrified, small lives.
IfThenPill 5y ago
We're not supposed to tell them that it's unattractive... it just makes them keener and they adapt to lie.
Spiderthing69 5y ago
Just like a sociopath.
Cavannah 5y ago
The entire female method of interface with reality is purely Machiavellian in both theory and practice
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The media said men would be fine with a high n-count. Feminism said the same thing. Women's magazines and talkshows said the same thing. My slutty friends say the same thing.
Have I left out any one demographic to ask, if men would be fine with my high n-count?
Men, nope looks like I've asked everyone!loneliness-inc LvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 5y ago
If men like something: it's patriarchal oppression! Sexism! Misogyny!
If men dislike something: it's female empowerment! Guuuurl pwrrrrrr! Body positivity! Sex positivity!
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True.
RRFdev 5y ago
The real joke is that it's the feminists that say men should have high sex counts, hence women should too because gurl power.
ZealousMaths 5y ago
They never question which men are even able to have such counts in the first place.
divorce33 5y ago
It's like a fat person saying they will eat whatever they want because skinny people get to eat whatever they want.
Jarin01 5y ago
I think it is interesting and a little sad that when women try to figure out what men want in a woman they ask everyone except for men.
Domebeers 5y ago
Or if they ask a man it's the guy who is orbiting her, so the answer they get back aren't the ones that they need to hear.
LAVATORR 5y ago
Whereas that exact scenario never happens with men trying to understand women.
NFIGUY 5y ago
In my experience, many women tend to tell you what they tell people they want, rather than what they actually seem to want, based on the history of their actions.
Whether this is due to societal pressure on women to be chaste and virginal, or an unwillingness or inability to perceive their own subconscious priorities, isn’t something I would care to speculate on.
Jarin01 5y ago
True. Most women will tell you almost the exact opposite of what they really want in a guy because they want to appear virtuous. In most cases I think women don't really know what turns them on and if they do they think people will view them as sluts if they are honest about it.
So we have all these soy boys out here running around acting like blue pilled nice guys because that's what women keep saying the want when in reality those kind of guys not only turn women off but they straight up repulse them.
NFIGUY 5y ago
True.
LAVATORR 5y ago
Whenever a guy tells me "Women are never honest about their True Feelings because of_____", I immediately think of all the times I had absolutely no problem getting female friends to open up to me about complicated feelings that run contrary to the "women never tell you what they're really thinking" narrative.
And I'm sorry man, but it just sounds like they didn't trust you enough to give you more than a superficial explanation.
NFIGUY 5y ago
Bear in mind that I’m not talking about your “one of the guys” female friends.
I’m also not referring to “what they’re really thinking”, I’m talking about how there are typically two types of women who are even moderately attractive.
I’m going to leave the rest out of this, because they don’t really apply here. Not too many men are overly concerned with the behavior of unattractive women, unless it somehow negatively impacts them.
I’m referring here to cases where the unattractive woman might be a relative or close friend, etc. - in other words someone they still have no sexual interest in.
As for the two types of attractive women, here we go:
Type A: Attractive women who own their behavior and have no problem telling anyone and everyone who will listen all about their feelings and their disdain for the double standards in play, and hypocrisy and sexism, and blah blah blah, fucking ad infinitum.
They don’t mind you or anyone else knowing how many guys they’ve “taken down”, at all.
Your friends sound suspiciously like type A women.
Type B: The much more common variety. They don’t want anyone to know their personal business. They may feel they’re justified in sleeping with anyone and everyone they want, or they may feel badly about it, but either way, it’s generally kept close to the vest.
These types of women tend to say they want a nice stable guy with a decent job, who will treat them well but equally. They say looks aren’t super important.
They say fitness isn’t super important. Personality, character, and a sense of humor are much more important to them.
Kindness and loyalty are much more important to them. Their guy doesn’t need to make a ton of money. He doesn’t have to be a macho, “alpha male” kind of a guy, or a “bad boy” type.
And all that sounds great. And congratulations to anyone who says all of that and actually means it.
Unfortunately, most of the women who preach this narrative have completely different histories of dating and sex, which almost entirely contradict everything they claim to want and need in a partner.
fmanly 5y ago
Oh, plenty of men are fine with it.
The problem is that they're not fine with those men.
The_mightiest_punt 5y ago
The man that's okay with it, she doesn't want.
The men who aren't okay with it, don't want her.
General_Duke02 5y ago
Well said.
LesterBurnham97 5y ago
Underrated comment.
Strike48 5y ago
The irony. Most women don't want the sad sacks that are cool with her having had half metric tons of dick inside of her. They thirst for those dudes that won't put up with that kind of sexual history because they know what they bring and the options he can secure and these girls don't like that. They'll moan and bitch. The sudden realization that they can't have the cake and eat it too is hilarious.
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Kudos, brother! The absolute genius of your reply, whether intended or not, is that the second sentence can be read in two entirely different ways, both of which are equally applicable. If that was not your intent, read your second sentence again. A 1000 monkeys on 1000 typewriters, for 1000 years, could not have stumbled upon such an example of polysemy. Please accept my upvote and my congratulations!
sfwaccountfw 5y ago
you nailed it
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Plenty of men are fine with it, but they are not the finest men, certainly not by these women's standards.
fmanly 5y ago
Agree on the last bit, but not necessarily on the first.
Obviously sexual desirability can only be measured by the gender one desires attraction from. The fact that these men aren't sought after by women is objective evidence that they aren't sexually desirable.
However, I wouldn't go so far to say that they aren't the "finest men" because there are many other ways of measuring the quality/value/etc of a man beyond whether women are attracted to them.
I suspect that many of these men would probably make very good husbands who would honestly uphold their marriage vows and sacrifice for their wives in time of need. By any moral standard they are great men. Oh, they might only provide a very modest standard of living - they might be living in a small apartment or trailer in a rural area. They might be eating basic home-cooked meals and ordering out pizza might be a luxury.
To consider these men "not the finest" just reflects how materialistic and vain our standards are.
However, the bigger shame is that many of these men don't realize how much better off they would be waking up and realizing that this is in fact the case, and that so many of these women they would be willing to date are not worth their time.
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I referred to the "finest men" only from their standards, not ours. As in these men aren't the Chad Thundercock they want, AKA "the finest men."
I agree with everything you wrote.
prbonfanti 5y ago
Agree entirelly, the way women evaluate men have no relation with moral standarts, virtues, etc.
Today was is another case on news where a men (52) was rejected by a hot girl (29) and killed her, killing himself latter, another broken mind damaged by ginocentrism.
Simping kills people, it is a slow death or a violent one.
fmanly 5y ago
The rage is real. We live in an entitled world and nobody is teaching the lesson to just learn to be content with what you have. That doesn't sell a lot of new cars/phones/whatevers.
Everybody just focuses on those things they lack, and neglects what they have freely available to them...
Traksimuss 5y ago
Also she wants to "settle", and guys will keep her in fuckzone indefinitely.
Newbosterone 5y ago
Of course for women “settling down” means “stop trying”.
fmanly 5y ago
There are plenty of betas who would settle down with her. But that isn't what she is looking for, unless it is just for a payoff (which women usually only want if they're desperate).
The guys she is actually interested in are obviously not going to commit.
LAVATORR 5y ago
Anyone who calls people "alphas" and "betas" with a straight face is someone that's in no position to determine who belongs to which group.
majiin_kirby 5y ago
Agreed. Specifically because there’s no such thing as “alpha” and “beta” in animals
questthegypsy 5y ago
Hahahaha do you know how silly that sounds.
2muchtequila 5y ago
I've slept around quite a bit, probably more than most people. I was always safe, and never had any issues with STDs or unexpected pregnancies.
For me at least, demanding that a woman I date have a low number of past partners would be extremely hypocritical. However, there's a big difference in my mind between someone who is careful and has standards and someone who says "good nuff" at 2 AM and raw dogs it with a random dude in a porta-potty.
I'm way less concerned with the number than I am self-respect.
packo33 5y ago
The issue here is, if you have a high N count, in all probability your partner will be the N+1, and not the last one.
I dont think male/female differences are very relevant for this discussion. If I had a daughter I would advise her against entering a serious relationship with you.
askmrcia 5y ago
Its not hypocritical. Technically it should be, but its not and I'll explain why.
1) Women are more then welcome to desire men with low n counts. The thing is women do not care about n count when it comes to picking men. In fact women will view a man as a weirdo if a man is over 22 and still a virgin or only has < 3 sexual partners. Its not men's problem that women don't desire men with low n counts.
2) Women can be short, unattractive, not make as much money but demand the opposite of their potential male partners and no one bats an eye. Does anyone outside of this sub view it as hypocritical? Nope. Women have the right to choose the types of guys they want no matter what values they themselves have.
Men also have the right to pick a woman they want based on n count, weight, attractiveness, ect... Both sexist value different things, but as we see only one sex gets labeled derogatory terms based on what they find attractive in the opposite sex.
RedLetterWord 5y ago
Two golden responses in this realm. Bravo.
The importance 2much places on not positioning himself hypocritically is a choice for he made for himself. I'm biased, though. I am the same way. But he makes a point to say that if that's your preference, you aren't wrong for having it. The concept of self-respect he brings up is icing on that cake. He still has standards for high-count partners that would apply to a low count partner. My guess is that he'd reject a girl who got shot in porn getting 3-way trained, even if those 3 partners added her total to only 5.
Both methods reflect a thought-out position, and not a simple "n-count is icky" visceral reaction, something that's important for detractors to really understand.
I like seeing this.
The reason women have no problem with men who have high n-counts is that they weigh the concept of social proof that comes with a high n-count a lot more heavily than chastity, which men weigh more heavily than a woman's sexual prowess. The base evolutionary coding would something akin to "other women want this man, that signals that he is high value". It's the opposite from men. We value the fortitude to reject the numerous opportunities that come their way.
I think both your points touch this underlying concept from each side.
Overkillengine 5y ago
It's like due to physiological differences between the sexes, each sex has a somewhat different set of priorities when it comes to mate selection.
For example, one critical difference is that women don't have to worry nearly as much as men do about whether or not a child was engendered by them, since they are the ones that bore the child! Paternity for men is rarely so assured.
So by default men that want to actually pass their genes on (which is their absolute right to wish to do so) and who wish invest in offspring sharing their genes (also their absolute right) have to vet women thoroughly for traits that will result in the highest probable assurance of paternity. Which means women that have traits that indicate a higher probability of infidelity are going to be selected against.
Women as a general rule don't have to worry about that. They have other concerns when it comes to mate selection by default.
molineskytown 5y ago
"Wayne Gretzky has the most goals in the history of the NHL, it's obvious to any rational person that he should be in the Hall of Fame. But damn, it just seems HYPOCRITICAL that we don't put Moe Hardy, the goalie who has let in the most goals also in the Hall of Fame. I mean, they both have the record in goals."
wetsuit509 5y ago
This is a great analogy. Feminists, and by association all women, superficially/mistakenly think it’s comparing “apples-to-apples” but it’s really “apples-to-oranges”.
Talking hockey, (evolutionarily speaking) men are the scorers whose job is to work hard to score a goal whereas women (guardians of reproduction) are goalies who have to work hard to stop would-be scorers from scoring a goal. ‘mind you there will be some naturally talented goal scorers (i.e. good looking) but only the best can score, but we can all agree that no team wants nor can have any confidence in a shitty goalie.
That all said, the paradigm (game) shifted with the advent of birth control which was like permanently placing those Win-a-Car screens with the small slots in front of the net - scoring is as hard as it ever was but now all the goalies in the league could relax and be shitty, and thus the sorry quality of modern women. Worse, feminism is advocating a permanent change to the rules where it’s men vs women, no goalies, the women’s team still has that screen in front of their net but the men’s team has a wide open net. Yeah, watching the men’s team get blown out night after night just becomes pointless, hence MGTOW.
Men’s evolutionary psychology remains the same - the old game is still superior and we know no other. And, men in general (HMVs in particular) want a GOOD goalie between the pipes, especially if they want her on their team one day. But yeah, AWALT now.
PolukranosWordEater 5y ago
Exactly this. If she's going to be in my family and the mother of my children, and invite her to enjoy all I've worked for, I have to know that she's going to be loyal and curb other men's advances. Having a high n count is a liability as it shows an eagerness to sleep with other men.
2muchtequila 5y ago
I can see where you're coming from, but that implies that women are losing when they sleep with you or me. If we're doing it right, both people should walk away feeling like they won even if it's just a one time hookup or friends with benefits thing.
There are absolutely women out there looking to use men for money, security, or status. But sex drives exist and sometimes, women just want to get laid with someone they're attracted to and they like hanging out with.
Gender culture is changing and more and more women aren't looking for you to put a ring on it or a baby in her, they just want to get off with something that isn't powered by C batteries.
Also, Moe Hardy? Holy crap that's a deep hockey reference.
lucidRespite 5y ago
I think he's making a point about difficulty, not winning/losing. Anyone can let goals in, scoring them (depending on quality of goalie) is more deserving of admiration, or at least less deserving of negative judgment.
prbonfanti 5y ago
If i was on to dates, i would say they are losing really, it is too easy to women to get a fuck, there is no merit on this, for men is the reverse, for most of men, sex is scarse.
And the all women look for those things, but have nothing to offer, after sex.
About what women want let then sort out themselves, they get easy mode and still complain about everything, even more when they get it.
molineskytown 5y ago
"Also, Moe Hardy? Holy crap that's a deep hockey reference."
LOL so deep I made this theoretical goalie's name up.
2muchtequila 5y ago
Oh trust me, I searched on google for like five minutes to figure out who he was. I just assumed you were Canadian and had some sort of encyclopedic knowledge of minor league players from the '70s.
IfThenPill 5y ago
Is it truly hypocritical? Men and women want each other for different things. I don't call a short girl hypocritical for wanting a tall guy.
2muchtequila 5y ago
I suppose it depends on the woman. Personally, if someone has the self-respect to be somewhat choosey and presence of mind to be safe then the number isn't an issue for me. I like confidence, so I like women that can be honest about things like having a sex drive and knowing what they like.
That's very different than women who have the mentality of "Maybe if I suck his dick he'll like me." Then they wonder why the guy still doesn't want to date them after they've been his human fleshlight for two months. The second one isn't attractive to me as a long term partner because that's not being sexual because she enjoys it, that's being sexual due to insecurity and the hope it can be used as a bargaining chip.
I want to be with someone who likes to fuck because she genuinely enjoys it. No games around sex, no pretending not to like it when they do, or to love it when they don't. Basically, as narcissistic as it might sound, I want to fuck a female version of me.
Although, preferably a female version of me who's a large chested redhead.
LAVATORR 5y ago
Yes it is hypocritical if you sleep around (or would if you could find willing partners) but call a woman a slut with a gaping vagina for doing the same thing. That is literally the dictionary definition of hypocrisy.
Plus there's the broader, queasy psychosexual implication that guys who obsess over their girl having a sex life before him tend to be creepy, insecure, possessive weirdos that want a lobotomized Amish fuckdoll (a "Tradwife", as Incels call it) and try to play it off as " just my preference".
IfThenPill 5y ago
Tbf the double standard exists because of the lock and key analogy. It's difficult to compare the sexes in this area because of fundamental differences. A man with a high count had to be charismatic. A woman with a high count had to say yes any number of times.
crewskater 5y ago
You’re correct about the hypocrisy part but there’s clearly a huge difference between sexuality. It’s been proven that women with higher partner could tend to never be happy. The same doesn’t apply for men for whatever reason.
Overkillengine 5y ago
If men and women were physiologically identical you might have had a point.
But they are not.
moroots 5y ago
thought excercise:
compare two wealthy people
one was a trust fund baby born with a platinum spoon in his mouth
the other grew up modestly but had a great business idea, worked hard, built a company, and sold it for a small fortune
now consider that both end up squandering their wealth
do you make the same value judgement as to which understands the value of money and hard work better?
LAVATORR 5y ago
Oh my god, is this going where I think it's going? Are you about to do a comparison where girls that have a lot of sex are like trust fund babies and people that struggle to get laid are like self-made millionaires? Or is it naturally attractive people are the people born wealthy, whereas less attractive people have to work harder so they're like the person born poor?
I get the feeling this isn't going to be a very good thought experiment.
moroots 5y ago
stop dodging
djkbrown2001 5y ago
In the same boat. Very high count. It is not right to fuck around a lot. I did it enjoyed some of it but to be honest they were at most empty experiences. The best sex I had is when I am in a relationships. All my countless flings and one night stand (apart from a few ) were empty and meaningless. One night stand definitely empty and meaningless.
I am being hypocritical but I do not find a woman with a high count attractive ( in the sense of settling down with her) , don't get me wrong I will have sex with her ,but is that the woman I should settle down with?
LAVATORR 5y ago
I like the implication that "The Media"--which is separate from magazines and talk shows for some reason--does not have any men in it, OR the men working in it were somehow overpowered by their small contingent of female coworkers and forced against their will to peddle a phony narrative about men being okay with women having casual sex because...well, it means men would have more sex too, which makes it a win-win.
I think the real issue here is that if you're bitterly complaining on Reddit about how insecure you are about about your girl having her own life (and sex with guys who are better at it than you), you're definitely not the guy benefitting from casual sex.
zilsbebechan 5y ago
how come virgin and prude are an insult but uuuu u sleep with a lot of people is not?
brcn3 5y ago
Oof size: large.
hatefulreason 5y ago
we need to pretend we're ok with it, and come up with other reasons to break up with them. otherwise, they'll just lie and we'll be cucks
Blogginginvicecity 5y ago
She thinks she is a lambo, but she is a trashy Uber.
Nelu31 5y ago
Im using more
Drp345 5y ago
Fucking. Nuked.
Best chuckle I've had all day!
Keep up the truth, good sir.
Sumfuc 5y ago
I’d never admit that I reject them for their body count/bastards.
The more comfortable they feel admitting to their sins, the easier it is to dismiss them once I’m done with them.
Their 3 holes is all I want from them.
guintoo 5y ago
Ooof
yusukeurameshi91939 5y ago
Reading this to the end was deeply satisfying.
BoxofMistakes 5y ago
Guys need to do this to a woman every couple of months just to remind them.
beesnoopy2231 5y ago
This guy should be called "Chad Thunder-Cock"
jacksawyer75 5y ago
Add in green hair and forearm tattoos as unattractive for women
PolesWithGoals 5y ago
It starts being unattractive when “a few” becomes “a cock carousel”
jaystevens2014 5y ago
If you would rather drive a 2020 Camaro than a 1967 Camaro, yeah buddy then she’s the lucky one
TheSecondComing97 5y ago
Actions have consequences “ladies”
CookiesNova 5y ago
men like you are fucking creepy
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moroots 5y ago
who hurt you?
jasonmiles2014 5y ago
That’s a whole lot of projection. No one is angry or bitter, but everyone is laughing at the absurdity of this shit. Go get fucked.
Traksimuss 5y ago
Well, get bent. Go back to female-centric safe spaces and circle-jerk there.
jihocech 5y ago
There are different types of past.
r8001 5y ago
They just don't get it. "Why men can and we can't, reeeeeee". Be-fucking-cause. Nature, you whore. You can't fight it.
Steffi-blue 5y ago
And who do you think men have sex with if it's okay for men to have multiple partners and not for women? Sounds a bit gay to me but if that's what you're into...
alljunks 5y ago
They have sex with her. Like she said, she had a lot of fun using guys for 5 years and forgetting about them once they left her bed. However, "I was really promiscuous and barely kept track of the guys I used" is still past tense, so anyone who finds that appealing will be more interested in the women for whom it's still the present: the new set of 19 to 24 year olds looking to build their own wonderful past. If she maintains the same attitude, she'll find plenty of takers happy to be used and forgotten for years to come.
This sub mainly collects the profiles of people who unjustly lose their appreciation for that lifestyle as they grow older, always referring to how they're tired of games and what not rather than glowingly talking about their countless wonderful experiences as they move onto the next chapter of their life. Sometimes lamenting the inability to enter that chapter as people keep using them
Of course, someone not interested in that kind of lifestyle will probably have slowly started stepping towards the exit once she started laughing about how she used people for half a decade.
r8001 5y ago
Eh? Guess you're like these women, who don't understand why is it ok for men to have multiple (female) partners, but not ok for women.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
I am one of these women. Please explain to me why it’s ok for men but not women.
r8001 5y ago
Ever heard the tale of a key? Let me remind you:
Key that opens many locks is a master key. Lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock.
You fucking, disgusting whore...
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
Very sound logic there mate. Let’s say we are all random objects, what makes men the key? The fact that their genitals happen to resemble a stick? The thing you’re forgetting here in this incredible analogy of yours is that locks are designed to keep closed. Women are not designed to not have sex. That’d be pretty silly biology right? Women are designed to do whatever the fuck they want, and even caring about your expectations of them sounds like such a waste.
Lmao I’m happy to be “disgusting” by your standards, but who’s to say I’ve ever had sex? Do you make similar assumptions about everyone you judge in life?
Edit: Removed “who’s to say I’m a woman” because I realised I admitted I’m a woman earlier lol
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
Ok I just read this so had to come back here: A pencil sharpener that sharpens any pencil is a good sharpener. A pencil that is sharpened by many sharpeners will gradually become shorter and more worthless.
See I’m going to compliment you and say I bet your pencil is very long, only because I’ve doubt you’ve ever had the chance to sharpen it before.
r8001 5y ago
Whelp, triggered slut is triggered, alright! My work is done here.
You still don't get how it works. It's not about physicality. No, my penis didn't get shorter, no matter how many women I fuck and it's above average btw, tyvm for your concern. Just like I don't think woman's vagina will become more lose, or some such nonsence, even though I'm not completely sure about it. It's about morals and the way whole "dating" shit works. Man is respected because he does all the work. He has to come to a woman he liked, risking rejection, risking having his self-confidence hurt. He has to interest her, then he has to invite her somewhere, he has to, again, keep her interested, he has to PAY for her, only to finally get in her pants. What does a woman do? She puts some fake face on, dress, heels, shows up, waits and expects to be entertained, taken care of and paid for. She does literary nothing, while the man does all the job. That's why a man who has many women is considered a champ, a cool guy, while a woman, who only has to chose who to sleep with, is considered a slut. A woman with lose morals. A whore. Ah, I don't think why I even waste my time writing it, you'd still remain a whore anyway and continue thinking that it's "ok" to be one. And then you hit 35 and realize that you live alone with 9 cats and that nobody likes you or wants you in their lives...
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
Lmao I just enjoy conflict. This is fun for me.
goolito 5y ago
Damn youre a fierce girl ! Yaasss slay queen!!
r8001 5y ago
Yeah I often do as well, but I'm sorry that I'll have to remove myself from this one, since I can only enjoy it when both sides are intelligent enough. In our little case here, I'm afraid you're the only one having intelligent opponent, which makes it unfair and boring for me.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
See that’s where we’re different, arguing with dumb people gives me shit to laugh at. To finish this off I’m going to agree that women shouldn’t be praised for a high sex count . It’s not an achievement. What it is, however, is fun. All this “work” you speak of that men do has only served to make it sound like you’re describing them as desperate. Needing sex isn’t exactly an achievement either. Now as for your direct attacks against me, I’d like to say that 1) Id rather be single at 35 than with someone who thinks sex count matters and 2) I have only fucked one person. My long term boyfriend. So even by your standards, I’m not a “slut”. My friend told me a good way to filter out insecure men is she tells them her sex count is 27. It’s actually 3, but the faster she can get rid of people like you the sooner she’ll find someone she’ll actually want to marry.
leadrain86 5y ago
Because it’s disgusting and shows you don’t value sex, intimacy, love, yourself, and that you’ve fallen for the casual sex bs.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
Sex and love are very different things. People mix them up all too often.
leadrain86 5y ago
They are supposed to be the same thing. That’s why people and society are falling apart. Sex is the physical expression of romantic love. We’ve perverted it as a society and it’s fucking people up.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
Why are they supposed to be the same thing? Just let them be separate.
leadrain86 5y ago
They aren’t. They undeniably are not. That’s why people feel like shit when they are out fucking everyone. Sex is supposed to be about love, intimacy, etc.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
You’re not giving me any reasons why. It sounds like you don’t even know why, you just have an opinion based on what’s “normal” in your own experience . If there is a reason, tell me. Who are you to say what sex is “supposed to be” without so much as attempting to justify it? Plenty of people don’t feel shit when they’re out fucking everyone, and the ones that do usually feel that way because of people with your beliefs telling them they are shit.
leadrain86 5y ago
I just did give you a reason why. People go out and sleep around. Then they wonder why they feel bad or develop feelings for people when it’s supposed to be “casual sex”.
Because sex is supposed to be about love and intimacy.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
And then other people go out and sleep around yet don’t feel bad or develop feelings. In such cases it has nothing to do with love. Why should it?
leadrain86 5y ago
They do eventually and look at those people they usually end up depressed and alone. There’s a reason.
toesandmoretoes 5y ago
Ah yes, wise and holy leadrain86, tell me more about the experiences of every fucking person on the planet that you’ve never met.
b_eazy_dinero 5y ago
Boom! Roasted
AlphaOmegaIXXI 5y ago
Based
CoolGuySauron 5y ago
Don't let us just hanging there. Was there any other answers?
BobbingForBunions Sr. Hamster Analyst 5y ago
I thought it ended on the perfect note.
Hard burn, then bail. lol
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
She started typing and I unmatched, knew she’d reply before reporting me and cucked tinder would ban me and she ain’t worth shit let alone that
RF111164 5y ago
LOL what do you think she'd have said back to you?
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
Some cookie cutter feminist reply she saw on Twitter one time that wouldn’t stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny I’d imagine
askmrcia 5y ago
"Wow who hurt you? I don't owe you anything you stupid incel virgin. You're extremely sexist for comparing women to cars. We women are not objects. Only insecure losers judge women based on their sexual experience. The only girls you want are young girls that you can easily manipulate and take advantage of because you're a pedophile who can't handle real women."
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AttractiveMale00 5y ago
They'll ban you for less than this.
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
Tinder can ban you for anything they want without warning. This would easily fall under being mean to wahmen which is a perma ban
NobelPeacePrizePepe 5y ago
How could you treat Carol this way?!?! I should call the cyber police!
Sure she fucked those other dudes the first night they met but she expects, no, deserves to be wined and dined and impressed with your courtship. You gotta work for it!
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a-corsican-pimp 5y ago
In theory? No. In practice? Yes.
DopplerShiftIceCream 5y ago
I'm pretty sure I got banned for saying "bye creeper."
ThaiEscapePlan 5y ago
The key and lock analogy is useful here. Her getting her field plowed every weekend at uni is not accomplishment. She just has to be breathing. for a guy that is not so easy to do.
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This made me SOOO FUCKING HAPPY to read
lordtucker 5y ago
The only thing she needs is aloe vera gel to soothe her burn.
WhiskeyAndSunsets 5y ago
She must be one of these FDS loyalists.
murkyundertow 5y ago
High number counts are gross, dated someone I though was right for me then two months in I get a bomb dropped on me that the count was close to 100, that shit is a total deal breaker.
reinaldo866 5y ago
I had a girlfriend, we dated for a few months, then she told me prior to me she had fucked 13 guys on Tinder before me, I was disgusted by her after that
ChiefLongWeiner 5y ago
It's not even the fact that she's slept with multiple people imo, it's just the way she presents it sounds so cunty
RotYeti 5y ago
Don't talk women into being more deceptive.
DeakinFrost 5y ago
Fuck yes, I love this shit, I hope she cut her hair off and ate ice cream all night
dwc151 5y ago
That's a world class thrashing.
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“I’m going to go find a younger version of you because girls like you are easy to replace”
Holy shit he killed her. He killed her dead.
dwc151 5y ago
I'd submit this to murder by words but the simps there would just downvoted it to shit.
[deleted] 5y ago
Mods will just claim it violates some rule while ignoring each other’s blatant actual rule violations
Rottinghere 5y ago
He's absolutely right. She will indeed find out, but it'll be way too late by the time she does.
Oh well...
tyrantgrey 5y ago
They treat themselves with no respect. They act like their actions have no consequences.
rextokyo 5y ago
Thot patrolled. Tyfys
asdf333aza 5y ago
Nice to see young men redpilling so hard out there. Warms the soul.
Oselzegehinga 5y ago
Dont worry. She will just tell her future simp husband that she only had one long term relatioship before meeting him.
Honest_Solution 5y ago
And she will never enjoy sex with him even though she goes on and on about how “women are supposed to enjoy sex too!”.......she just left out “with Chad” part.
Wibble606 5y ago
"why would I spend my time MOTing, insuring and looking after an old car when I can get a new one"
That might be the best thing I've ever read on the sub-reddit.
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Xuppy 5y ago
We Ate All The Green Monkeys
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
Look at the sub name friend
AquaCamus18 5y ago
Damn Im fucking stupid thank you!
MassiveMD 5y ago
toughenup2016 5y ago
It's worse than having sex with multiple people here and there. The problem is hooking with multiple people all the time with no dry spell to get to know oneself because it's easy for them and they can like snap of a finger and we know who they are easy with.. now they play hard to get for you... no girl can be trusted anymore. Cat is out of the bag. This can't be unlearned.
PhantasyBoy 5y ago
This argument they throw up - oh men do it and nobody minds. That’s pretty gross too to be honest.
[deleted] 5y ago
" youll find out guys dont like hearing about girls past" man couldnt you just ghost her like a normal person? Youre the reason next time shes not going to say anything about her past. Let girls like this brag and brag. Dont ever correct them. Jut walk away and let them wonder why theyre trash. Otherwise, you give them the opportunity to deceive someone else
HAROLD-SHIPMAN-FAN 5y ago
Fair comment tbh, I didn’t think that one through
murkyundertow 5y ago
Couldn’t agree more, it would’ve saved a lot of time and effort if there was that communication up front.
Redhood616 5y ago
She’s upset because she knows what OP said is the truth. But most women would rather keep being delusional than admit when they’re wrong.
“How come men can sleep with so many people and its no bid deal but when women do it’s a problem?!?”
Blame women for that not men. Women like men with high notch counts while men like women with low notch counts. Also all women need to do to have sex is open an app and send 1 msg and they’ll have numerous options while men have to actually put in work to get sex
RF111164 5y ago
only the sluts, whores who can't love
Enzo95 5y ago
So, all of them?
RF111164 5y ago
I certainly hope not lol
Gozie5 5y ago
They like men who are desired (notch count and desirability are synonymous to most people). As soon as I was accused of being a player at uni (I wasn't), I had a lot more luck with girls.
RF111164 5y ago
this bandwagon mentality is so stupid
Edge-Lord0000 5y ago
Oof size large
_Icarus_Reborn_ 5y ago
She's completely misread what he's said and misunderstood the point he was making.
He didn't say anything about a women enjoying sex, in fact I'm sure he'd want a partner that enjoyed sex.
He's disgusted by her casual attitude to sex with multiple partners, and blasé admittence to it.
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sfwaccountfw 5y ago
I gotta say, she sure looks super hot
BenchoteMankoManko 5y ago
filters, angles, makeup & mewing.
of course those will make anyone look better with no effort