Lol she likes to fuck, must be something wrong with her. I can fix that!

#thanksnofap

Jesus I used to be this way, so glad i have TRP on my side

Guys, just try to search for "sex" in nofap. You will see plenty of guys who are HAPPY not to have sex with girls. Virgins who have the chance, but willingly refuse to have sex. Demonising those who ask for help in getting a gf/having sex.

Crazy.

I would have fucked her first, then be honest, Slot of shit can change within a few hours

Nofap is fileed with white knights bro like nofap is rare but nofapper conservative redpillers are like bloody unicorns xD

I just heard of this nofap thing? That can't be healthy. Shit if I don't fap I lust worse for women until pain.

I just heard of this nofap thing? That can't be healthy. Shit if I don't fap I lust worse for women until pain.

Don't think he's a "cuck" because he has morals. She definitely wanted to fuck, and this was just LMR, but he didn't pick op on that, and thought she was really only looking to have sex if they could be serious, and he decided to do the right thing and not be dishonest with her. Not completely sure how I would have handled this, but definitely would treat it as LMR. Any ideas of a good response? If the only way for us to have sex would be for me to lie to her, we wouldn't be having sex. Not only is it a shitty thing to do, it's just asking for a delayed rape accusation.

TRP is amoral. That doesn't mean you need to be immoral.

I make no moral judgments, if the dude did not want to fuck her, that is fine. There are lessons to be learned from the interaction. For example he says:

• "But because of NoFap I saw her in a new light. She wasn't just an object to be lusted over."

Thing is she WANTED to be an object to be lusted over, she wanted him to convince her it was OK to fuck and fuck her rough. What we have here is a wasted opportunity for sex because of blue pill programming.

Feminists keep telling women it is OK to fuck around yet white knights still want to "protect her chastity". Feminists and manginas want an each way bet. On one hand she is encouraged by the sisterhood to explore her sexuality, on the other hand her feelings need to be protected and she is not just "an object".

Women like to fuck as much as we do, but there is cognitive dissonance. TRP encourages us to enjoy the fall, whilst simultaneously condemning the lack of good women and lamenting the reality of the CC. Feminism is inherently unnatural so the paradox is subconsciously apparent to both red pill aware people and blue pill betas.

How do I call an emotion of laughing at something, yet cringing so hard that I almost need to cry?

She told me she'd been on the bad side of hook ups recently and only wanted to go further if this was going to be the real deal.

No idea what she means with the real deal, I wasn't sitting in this closet and eavesdropping or something, but if she means relationships, she needs to look somewhere else than a bar and fuck him within a couple of hours, lol. Otherwise, if she wants to get fucked hard, I can imagine she wasn't really picky and feels like a slut for allowing so many betas inside of her. N-count is one thing, the quality she allows inside is another.

Well in my own opinion it kinda does make him a better man because he's not lying to her and that if it is what he believes than he staying true to his morals witch is more important than just getting another lay. It's not a bad thing to do what you believe is right or beta.

 

Wow.

 

I would never have even imagined the mental leap there.

The idea of NoFap is to concentrate your sexual energy so that when you get a chance to fuck you explode with massive levels of energy.

How the hell did the guy turn that into Nice Guy™ behavior?

He could have jerked off every night and been a Nice Guy™.

Makes no sense.

 

Needs bar slut... Suddenly is an amazing girl.

The problem with these dudes is that they've been conditioned to believe that all girls are delicate and respectable creatures who deserve it all and more. Diamonds for everybody.

This is why I always say men can hamster HARDER than women. We have the logical faculties to create these intricate system of webs and beliefs and axioms to support our inner pussy. It's like.. when a bitch hamsters, she'll say "I JUST FEEL THIS WAY" and stick her fingers in her ear and scream "LALALALALA". Whereas a man will hamster by sitting you down and having an intellectual debate about how indeed actually his seemingly weak result was due to his moral superiority - and he'll have an elaborate system of logical justifications to prove it.

I see it all the fucking time. Guys who have rationalized getting cuckolded on the regular as them being liberated great men who've transcended the jealousy and pride involved in "owning" their fierce, independent wives.

Guys who've rationalized getting fat and gross as acceptable due to their rise in social / financial status - they can prove that indeed it all balances out on some grand mathematical scale.

Guys who can explain in great gory detail why dating a slut with 50+ partners is better and why sex count shouldn't matter in a marriage partner and mother of their own fucking children.

And of course, guys like this who get into a cult / hobby in order to IMPROVE THEIR PENILE FUNCTION and GET OVER INSECURITIES ABOUT SEX.... and then get so afraid and anxious about their performance when the time comes for them to actually potentially have sex that they turn her down. (And then logically explain it like it's the most reasonable thing in the world that they saved her from having to experience sex).

Men hamster harder than women sometimes. The difference with women is their ability to tolerate their hamstering - women can tolerate all the hamstering in the world and not suffer any mental incongruence. She can cheat all day, she can branch swing, she can lie about n count, she can gold dig, she can break up her best friend's marriage to validate her ego, etc, and when she rationalizes it away, she legitimately won't even feel bad or have to mentally agonize over it ever again. As soon as she's mentally refactored her flaws into strengths, she's done.

The guy, unfortanately... he knows. Deep down, in his heart of hearts, this man knows he is a fucking loser and he wishes she didn't feel so nervous in the moment. He wished he seized life by the horns and just mauled this bitch. He wishes he lifted her up, slammed her down, and fucked her for the 3.5 seconds his plugged up balls would have permitted him.

But he didn't and he has to live with it. The validation from other betas saying "yeah bro you did the right thing, go team no fap!!!" might feel good for now. The shitty memes might make him laugh and feel like he's part of some community that has his back. But then he goes back into school, he walks around campus watching all of the girls he wishes he could have, and he hates himself for being the man he is.

That's the problem with hamstering as a man. Women get a free pass, they get to do it to their heart's content and they experience no consequences until they become old and unattractive. Mentally they get to live with it without any regret or guilt or shame. Men don't.

I did read one guy saying that the nofap program helps prioritize his life and pursue actual sex without masturbation to fall back on. Put into that perspective, it coincides with trp very much. Odd that he didnt get downvoted to the fiery pits of hell IIRC.

NoFap is castrating yourself to the point where the ugliest, fattest bitches in the world are good enough, and then claiming how much better you are now that you stick your dick inside a beast.

NoFap is still a cult with Roosh V as one of the deluded high priests. The goal is the same as regular cults, to keep you horny, keyed up and desperate so you'll buy whatever the cult is selling.

If he white-knights or pedestalizes himself out of pussy that he would otherwise partake in it has nothing to do with how much he's been fondling his own junk. Except maybe he will end up with Premature E.

Likewise, the guy thinking that his NoFap card was going to "earn" him some sort of prize or cure his psychological issues causing him to selfsabotage is as pathetic as Rooch thinking he's gonna use his "old school kingly christianity" to magically innoculate his woman from "hypergamy" as soon as his T drops.

Call me a white-knight beta cuck, but I actually agree that what the guy did is both honest and honorable.

This thread is a classic example of TRP hamstering - aren't you guys complaining that most girls in our society are unable to pair-bond because of how many dicks they ride? Well here we have an example of a girl who actually wants to pair-bond before riding dicks and you shame her as well?

There's no pleasing your hypocrisy :D

I don't know about him being a cuck or desexualized by NoFap, but I think there's a very important lesson about female psychology here.

Women like sex. They like no frills hook ups. Period. This woman might be saying the truth that she had bad experiences - bad relationships, creepy guys, or maybe one of the two got attached emotionally. The only reason she said what she did was to make her feel that her bad choice in men isn't the problem, the hooking up is. Hence, she wants to go for the "real deal", whatever that even means when you're rubbing your vag over a guy you met 2 hours ago. People take longer to buy a couch ffs.

I've seen this to be a very common thing among women across countries and cultures. They want to fuck, but they want to feel like it was part of something better. Very rarely you'll find a chick who's happy and comfortable calling a hookup exactly that, with no expectations and zero clinging. Whether it's your 16 year old virgin high school girl, or a 26 year old middle aged woman, if she's in a situation which can lead to sex, she wants to bang, man. Take the charge, and don't go all sentimental while she's unwrapping the rubber. Men aren't the only ones who want to shut off the brain and just enjoy the ride for a while.

Is it cheating or manipulation? No. Relationship will develop if it has to, and it won't if it's not going to. The sex is nearly independent of it. And if you think that you need to have a "serious goal" before banging someone you picked up at a bar over drinks, I think you're the one who needs to re-think your priorities for a relationship.

And this is why I say time and time again nice guys aren't faking shit

I could not be prouder of myself. I'm a new man. A rare breed.

Nice guys are taught to go against their instinct and look out for someone else's best interests

I hoped someone would make a post about this

How would TRP response when she said she wanted the real thing?

Yea bro cause it's so fucked up when a guy has a hot chick wanting to fuck him but decides not to. You're right, we should live in a utopian society where by we fuck absolutely any good looking chick that throws themselves out way. We do not have a choice, we just do it, good one, that's a great idea.

I'm all for banging hot chicks using masculinity as the main weapon but fuck me, there's nothing wrong with turning down a girl. Sure, the reason the guy did it was teetering on the side of beta but in general, it's not blue pill to turn em down.

And look at you, this guy managed to get over an addiction frowned upon in this sub and here you are digging into him. It's fuck heads like you that give this sub such a bad name. Support the guy that is taking steps to change.

Dude obviously you didn't read about his superpowers

I know I will get downvotes for this, but I think NoFap can be unhelpful if it leads to guys going for sub-5 girls out of frustration

I'm a new man. A rare breed.

Looks like he had to resort to sucking his own dick after the girl bailed.

Achievement unlocked......#CaptainSaveaHoe lol

you know, there are things you can not un-say, un-hear, or un-see. and at times that permanence is a good thing.

sometimes it bites you in the ass. now the subject ASKED what the problem was. and in that was told something he could not un-hear.

now I have a problem with this suddenly confessional of the girl in question as she was suffering from the "I'm jumping into bed with all these guys .... why won't any of them respect me" syndrome. I don't know how stupid a woman has to be to take this approach ... and so many do. of course this could have been her "test in a can" she has been saving up for anytime a guy actually stops and asks her if she is ok after some obvious prompts during foreplay. it could all be a very elaborate scheme. I am inclined to say it is part of "her routine". yeah, she is going to jump into bed with everyone, but she goes ahead and throws the hooks out in case there is a taker.

so you have this guy who just had a girl say she wants a relationship, though she came back to his place with no expectations.

the guy folded tent. he wanted nothing to do with her after that. he wanted a one nighter and she was making it clear that she wanted more and that she didn't want to continue if it wasn't.

option 1 ... tell her it's not going any further and see what happens. option 2 .... lie. tell her that things are awesome and this must be love. and to be honest about the situation in my opinion, give her the deniability that she was looking for to have another one night stand and tell her friends again how much men suck and how they lie to just trick her out of her pants.

ok, first, if you have to lie to get into a girls pants .... I just don't see how you think it's funny, cool, manly, or alpha. this kind of douche behavior should not have any type of positive adjective attached to it. once again, there are too many options to stick on a bad one.

I still do not get it. improving yourself, building and maintaining confidence, understanding the mind set of the opposite sex, understanding the social and real world issues of male/female interaction, etc., etc. why do so many people reading this find lying in this situation acceptable. I do think she is looking for that deniability that is so common right before sex ... and he could have given her that without lying.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a fucking faggot

I strongly disagree with your opinion.

I think it all depends on what your goals are.

For example:

Bob is simple. He wants a mustang because he LOVES MUSTANGS. He participates in a contest and wins a blimp. Bob doesn't want a blimp. Bob sells his blimp and buys a MUSTANG. Bob is happy. Joe doesn't like MUSTANGS. Joe thinks bob is stupid for not keeping the blimp. Bob and Joe are very different.

The point I'm trying to get across is simple. This "blue pill guy" you are talking about may have different goals than you. He may be at a different stage than you. I think he has an issue with porn and feels that he was looking at women as sex objects, walking fleshlights let's say.

He feels proud that he could finally resist his urge to just bang anything that walks and control himself. To him, this is an acheivement.

You, on the other hand, feel that he is an idiot and, in fact, I agree with you. I would have done things much differently, but that's why he is him and I am me.

So how would you respond in a situation like this?

I would just smile and spout nonsense like "it's about enjoying the moment we share together bla bla bla" proceed to escalate

Don't even need to be a NoFapper to empathize. After a long time off, I find other people gross lol. Often takes a girl making a move for me to ease back into it.

Source? I sincerely doubt an habitual porn user could hop to a bar, pull the hottest chick and then push her off like that. It sounds made up. Nofap is notoriously easy to troll. Just post the weirdest shit about how not touching your dick makes you a better human and these fools will applaud and cheer.

I read this today and cringed hard because that used to be me.

Reason I left nofap to many betas

Better to be the guy who is in a position to be able to decline then the guy who doesn't have that option. OP, instead of giving examples of others choosing not to bang a girl that they took home , was all over them etc , why not give an example of your successes with the females ?

What is the point of this post?

she straight up shit tested him when her asd kicked in and he took the bait. she's most likely glad that it turned out the way it did and went on to find another guy who would fuck her seven ways from sunday

Thank you for posting this!! This would be downvoted to hell on that circle jerk , no fap is GOOD but getting bitches is better I could fap tonight the next day and the one after and still be the same, their getting crazy now talking about girls loooking at them when they don't fap

God the cringe is real. I remember back when I was super-beta and would hamster reasons for justifying why I pussed out to fuck a woman --- usually by implications of being "larger than life" and above "sex" with a woman due to some unknown virtue that my stupid ass idea was supposed to posses.

Reality is people like this are still insecure and afraid of rejection. They cling to the bull shit we hear, such as how wrong it is to sexually objectify women, and trumpet their "victory" to the beta masses in hopes of receiving a pat on the back for having been such a bitch.

I could not be prouder of myself. I'm a new man. A rare breed.

does he drive a bmw too? This Nofapper is such a supreme gentleman

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/543143_3621928085736_831815643_n.jpg

I saw this one, after I read that I felt shame for himself.

This post reeks of insecurity

Is it too difficult for people to fap and have sex in the same period of their life? Also because many girls love to masturbate... not only when they don't have sex for a period of time.

The problem is that people think that Chad doesn't have to do the same thing. He has to make things go his way to get the ass, too. That includes saying "sure baby im in this for the long haul". Pussy just doesn't fall on his dick.

I don't personally see the benefits of nofap. I tried it. It made me desperate and really bad at sex. I didn't have any stamina. I just stay away from porn.

Because of guys like these, we get to have sex with many ladies. Gentlemen, Never forget that!

yeah i saw this and shook my head.

if she is down to fuck, let her fuck man!

He feels good about himself. Isn't that valuable?

"The Real Deal" is such a nebulous term. They can hang out, get to know each other, and fuck and she'd most likely leave that situation feeling good about things even if they didn't get married. This guy shot himself in the foot to prove he was a "nice guy."

A rare breed? Same contents in a newer package.

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I'm not really seeing the issue here. The "nofap seeing in a different light" thing is kind of silly. But if the girl was genuinely being honest with him, and he chose not take advantage of the situation, why does that make him a "beta cuckhold"

The dude told her he just wanted a hookup, and dident pursue it because of this. That's auctually a pretty dope move, dude just wants to fuck, not deal with emotional baggage or do anything to further her emotional issues.

I for one personally prefur a girl who knows how it goes down instead of a girl wanting emotional involvement. I've turned down girls for similar reasons, and grabbed a down girl instead. I'm just not sure why everyones bombing on this dude, he could potentially bag more women then this whole thread combined. He auctually made a good guy move here.

Sounds like she did some typical last minute resistance and he failed because he was beta as hell.

Something to say, NoFap doesn't fix the beta mentality because the beta mentality is not solely a trait of a person who profusely jacks off to things he doesn't naturally like. NoFap does however reduce the betaness within a being. In this case, the person was always has a beta nature. But that doesn't mean nofap doesn't help reduce betaness in people. Most examples can be found on the subreddit itself.

He probably would have just prematurely ejaculated anyway.

So what would be a good response to that?

When will these whiteknights realise that sex does not = commitment.

Lmfao. A lot of other NoFap dudes who would've slayed that shit without a doubt. Fuck, imagine busting a load on a bitches face after months of not ejaculating. Hahaha.

NoFap in combination with TRP (only ejaculating when you actually have sex) is good.

All that shit like degenerate pornography and frequent masturbation is a nuisance. When you stop glorifying girls by jacking off to them in your head and lending them the power of your fantasies, they become more like your equals (or less) as opposed to this pedestalized sex-god you have them imagined as. Way easier to pick up.

Don't fault a man for being honest.

Why is concern trolling not allowed on TRP but moralizing and shaming men into having sex ok?

This provides absolutely zero value towards sexual strategy.

It's gotten so bad I can't even go there anymore.

They make the mistake of conflating pornography addiction with normal male lust for women. Go too far and desexualize themselves completely. Largely caused by Gary Wilson, the Jesus of the Your Brain on Porn movement, who after reading his book, I can say is deeply, deeply blue pill. Shame because he is a nice guy, he just needs to stick to the neurochemistry.

Ironic considering the pornography addiction itself is just a manifestation of the completely normal male sexualisation of women based on looks, but I digress. I remember leaving a comment on the subreddit in response to a particularly self-flagellating and beta post along the lines of "the point of NoFap is to take women off the pedestal and give yourself the confidence and potential to explore your options with women" to which I got downvoted into oblivion. Sad!

Beta roots run deep, and men will do anything to convince themselves they are above the average and somehow better than other men.

Idk I don't see anything wrong with not wanting to manipulate or be dishonest with someone just to fuck them, even if they just want to be fucked. There are plenty of girls out there you can fuck by being straightforward about the situation.

Yeahhh, I saw this too. I'm all for the benefits of nofap, and if anything it frees up time for me to be more productive, but this shit over there is getting out of hand.

There's no way to swing that to shed a positive light on it. The dude bitched out.

Everything before this point

I told her I could have manipulated her to get in her pants but she, being an amazing girl, deserved better. And I told her she should go home before I hurt her more.

was ok with me. that, and everything after just screamed bitch to me. I don't understand how the fuck this Nofap bull shit makes guys "open their eyes" "see the light" "be a new man' .... You're not touching your dick. Get over yourself.

I'm not sure this is a "white knight" situation because he was not saving her from something or someone. He was just about to fuck her and simply decided not to because he's some kind of human being who doesn't want to hurt people's emotions, which she clearly stated. Personally I'd have just lied, like holy fuck, you idiot.

don't be a bitch. wait, you're a red pill beta, nvm soldier, carry on.

I've noticed a lot of overlap in the NoFap and MGTOW communities on Reddit - in that both groups are comprised of weak-willed bitches that try and pretend their biological urges don't exist. There's nothing noble about mentally castrating yourself, just like there's nothing noble in willfully checking out of the game.

pornfree is better than NoFap. I had to unsub from it because of all the the posts that put women on a silver platter.

This sounds bad when one fails at nofap hardcore beta, choosing porn over reality!

NoFap is a hoax.
Just because you don't touch yourself doesn't mean women are gonna want to mount you as soon as they meet you. It doesn't mean you're superior to other people and it definitely won't make you either the person you want to be or the best person you could become.
Actually working on yourself, going to the gym, getting education, getting the right job, going out does. NoFap has nothing to do with it.
The only benefit NoFap has is that it can help you get rid of a porn addiction but it's not necessary.

Those types of posts are why i unsubscribed a long time ago, that sub is only going downhill.

Sitting here waiting for a train laughing like a maniac.

"Why would you think I want to have sex with you?" -> procede to smash

Yea thats the dumbest logic I have ever heard of, she was already on top of him straddling , the deal was sealed and she wanted it, she let HIM talk her out of it. Cant really get any worse than that. That must be an instant turn off for a girl to have a guy become a sniveling beta like that in front of her eyes. Almost guaranteed she either walked out of there disappointed or confused about what had just happened. I highly doubt she walked out of there thinking what a great amazing guy he is. Girls want you to lie in that situation even if they wouldnt admit it. That doesnt mean they hope it wont become something more (sometimes it does) but in the heat of the moment they hope you want it enough to at least say it at the time.

Just wow...

This is maybe the most emasculated man I've heard off, perhaps more than a willing cuckold.

I don't get it, I tried nofap for 4 weeks, at the end of it I found myself hitting on a whale...I was that horny.

I'm working on my theory, that men are driven by the desire to be a hero and women are driven by the desire to be worshipped/loved. This story fits it perfectly. The guy genuinely feels like a hero because he saved a ho. The girl only stopped because if she just gives it up, she won't be worshipped/respected/loved. She wanted him to want it even more and ravage her and then keep her around in the morning. Instead, he didn't give her what she wanted, he gave her what he thought she needed.

EDIT: I think I have come up with better terms for my thoughts. Men want to be needed for what they do, women wanted to be needed emotionally.

EDIT2: Even better- men want to be a hero, women want to be adored (by a hero)

Yeah nofap is beta af usually, but I'm participating in nofap and can honestly say my confidence, productivity, and aggression in the gym is through the roof (I'm at two weeks rn)

A rare breed. I died. bahahahaha

I'm happy for the guy for going to a club and picking up a girl instead of fapping because many guys would rather stay at home. To get to that point takes a lot of work. (I've been there myself)

I think the reason why the dude was so proud of himself was because he was able to break old thought patterns and behavior that controlled his life previously.

So what if he didn't fuck a hot girl he met at a club? Maybe it wasn't his goal that night to fuck a club slut. Not everyone has the same value system as everyone else. Maybe he was the type of guy who would fuck anything at the club and that lead him down the path of porn addiction. There are a lot of variables at play here we don't have the information on.

I disagree with the way that he handled that, I think it could have still gone well. I still don't think that this necessarily means that he is a beta, he just has different goals.

How to get away with this mentality? Pls help