http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1bz4ll/what_would_you_think_of_a_guy_in_his_mid_20s_who/
I thought yall would enjoy this thread and all the seething hatred for this guy. If an 18 year old woman wants to date older men, that's all fine and natural, so good for her! But if a successful man wants to date younger women, he's the scum of the earth.
EDIT: i'd prefer it if you guys wouldn't comment over there. there's no sense in arguing against the grain in a safe space echo chamber like askwomen, even with facts.
redpillschool Admin 12y ago
Awesome find.
Of course, in the eyes of AskWomen, all men are predatory no matter what.
5F42DE47BC 12y ago
"Where can we meet women?"
NOWHERE! Don't you ever talk to me anywhere for any reason!
[deleted] 12y ago
AskWomenAskSRSLite can be quite the mindfuck.robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
I'm just glad I got permabanned, so I don't go wasting hours laughing or raging at the idiocy there, educating people, and then getting tarred and feathered for it.
HumanSockPuppet 12y ago
Notice how the opinions never stray far from those of the designated matriarchs.
[deleted] 12y ago
I made the mistake of posting a reaction there...was downvoted to HELL for asking a commenter to switch genders...apparently that was sexist of me
Rollo-Tomassi 12y ago
All you need to know about this dynamic:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/the-mature-man/
TDCRedPill 12y ago
Just for devil's advocate sake, is there a frequent voicing of the opinion that an 18 year old girl landing a successful 26 y/o is something to be applauded in that sub? I only see one comment that says anything like that.
And, to be fair, that isn't a great comparison, and doesn't contrast hypergamy. It may try to represent how we view hypergamy, but doesn't address how THEY view hypergamy. The question posed sounds like more hook up culture, and more sex focused than relationship focused. Since there's no mention of him being in a relationship with someone already, I don't see hypergamy coming into play.
A better contrasting question would be telling a story of a guy in a stable, possibly married relationship with a woman, and struggling to deal with this new woman who completely demolishes him like his current woman never did; how he feels his current relationship may have been a mistake because this new girl feels like more a soul-mate than his wife ever did. Does he trod on with a life time of regret with his current wife, or do the honest thing and end the marriage? He knows he doesn't love his wife, now that he knows what love feels like. Add in sprinkles of how attractive she is, leads an exciting life, comes from a great family, etc, and that'd be hypergamy in a nutshell from a woman's point of view.
[deleted] 12y ago
i've looked through the female subreddits for a long time, and it's generally accepted that there's nothing wrong with a woman that only wants older, more mature men. i don't take issue with that, because it's only natural. i've never seen a woman torn down for stating that she prefers older men at any point in my life, come to think of it. basically, hypergamy practiced by women is seen as normal. however, i find it hilarious that women would be pissed at a guy for acknowledging it and using female hypergamy to his advantage. the double standard is palpable.
that's an interesting take on how women might view hypergamy as practiced by men. thanks!
TDCRedPill 12y ago
I don't think I understand. I'm not seeing a link between hypergamy (behavior to trade up better from what they have, and hold onto what they have while nothing better is immediately available) and age differences between partners.
[deleted] 12y ago
ah, I see, and you're right by that expanded definition of hypergamy. I was going by the more general definition which is just "the tendency to choose mates of higher status". we have no idea who these younger women are, and we don't know if they traded up anybody to date the guy in question.
[deleted] 12y ago
i'd say that it is because the guy in question is a mid-20's law student, who clearly holds a higher status than an 18 year old freshman. if you read his comments, the guy is taking advantage of these younger womens' drive to seek and impress a higher status mate, and is doing so without shame. i had a good laugh at how some users were so offended by the thought that a man might prefer a relationship with a younger woman because it's easier in many ways, and that he's somehow a lesser person for it. like i said before, the double standard that only women get to actively benefit from female hypergamy is palpable.
redpillschool Admin 12y ago
I'd say that age is one of the more common indicators of status. Consider why men peak in their 30s.
TDCRedPill 12y ago
Agreed. What I'm missing is how this relates to hypergamy. The person, real or fictional, isn't asking a question that relates to hypergamy. There's no indication of the guy displaying hypergamous behavior ("I have a girlfriend, but there's this hot 18 y/o..."), nor taking advantage of hypergamous behavior("There's this hot 18 y/o that's been hitting on me, even though she has a boyfriend...").
He may have many things that make him attractive, and the 18 year olds probably have many things that make them attractive, and they may even be mutually attracted. But that is separate from hypergamous behavior.
redpillschool Admin 12y ago
If men, through age (and perceived status) now have the ability to date 18 year old girls, then the 18 year old girls are dating for status.
It's beneficial to them, but wrong for us?
Serres 12y ago
When a women could date men her own status and age, but chooses to date higher status men instead. She is trading up over men her own age/status and skipping directly to the best men she can get. The fact that women view 80% of men on okcupid as below average. Is that not an aspect of hypergamy?
Hypergamy is defined as becoming attached to someone at higher status than yourself in several ways (sexual market value, education, career, social status, wealth). It is not specifically about going from one partner to another because a new opportunity is available, though that is an aspect of it as well.
TDCRedPill 12y ago
You are correct; that was my misunderstanding. Thank you.
[deleted] 12y ago
Oh jeez. Guys, stop flooding /r/askwomen.
[deleted] 12y ago
yeah, i shouldve put a request to not comment there. there's no sense in fighting the reverb of an echo chamber.
SpawnQuixote 12y ago
I would probably get banned if I responded so doing it here...
Oh heavens, how will a guy banging a hot 18 year old ever get over that? Also, I thought it was widely accepted that females were the more emotionally superior sex? Or is that only when getting in a penis size contest with gender warriors?
Those girls his age? They probably want an older man.
Here we see outright misogyny against themselves. Obviously 18 year old women, even though legally defined as an adult, cannot make decisions because they must be retarded? Is that what askwomen is saying? That 18/19 year old girls are stupid? That's the message I'm getting.
/r/theredpill has the answer, they don't want to hear it though. Viagra isn't the best selling pill because of 50 year old men...it is so 50 year old women will have someone to bang them. I guarantee you most of the 50 year old guys using viagra will not need it if they had a naked, hot, thin 18 year old underneath them. Viagra, made for older women.
[deleted] 12y ago
Can I permalink this comment as a response there? lol
nicethingyoucanthave 12y ago
You should apply for a grant to study that as a diagnostic tool. Old guy asks for viagra and the doctor says, "sure we just need to run a quick test" then this girl walks in and gets down on her knees.
SpawnQuixote 12y ago
I could get behind Obamacare if this were covered.
INTJurassic 12y ago
Fascinating theory on Viagra. I wonder if they've done any customer surveys validating your thoughts.
Despite already taking the red pill, you just gave me a newer, redder pill.
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
Actually, I think they are purple.
SpawnQuixote 12y ago
I'm in my 40's and all the 50 and 60 year old friends of mine with wives HAVE to take viagra or face the wrath of their wives.
They don't have ED but they also don't want to fuck their wives or get a divorce because it costs too much and they really don't want to date either. Dating at 40+ is bad because the 30 year old women have baby rabies and the 40 year old women are losing their minds over the power shift as they age.
The 50+ year old women not even on the radar.
INTJurassic 12y ago
I'm in my mid-20's. Thanks for giving me that bit of wisdom for the future. Now I'm immediately going to go blend a green smoothie so I stay fit and healthy in order to bang 18-30 year-old women forever.
Kepaso 12y ago
This is hamsterific
theubercuber 12y ago
The real fun starts if you let them talk about how much more mature they are than their cohort of mid-20's guys.
"I need to be with a 35-year-old who's set in life, because I know what I want and I deserve the same".
Edit: Speak of the devil, found it in that very thread.
[deleted] 12y ago
well, i'd say that's true about the age comparisons. i'm 25 now, and my entire personality has changed since i was 18. but yeah, i'm sick to death of the myth that young women are more mature than young men. just because a woman can attract an older man does not make her more mature.
pillburt 12y ago
This is glorious:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1bz4ll/what_would_you_think_of_a_guy_in_his_mid_20s_who/c9bqpkr
Right. Because women at 18 can't make decisions for themselves.
TheIslander829 12y ago
I think they're able to do so way before 18. In Europe the legal age of consent is 16 in most places.
[deleted] 12y ago
according to her you are a child until 25. how the fuck did the human species survive for so long?
rebuildingMyself 12y ago
The patriarchy rape culture, of course
[deleted] 12y ago
I spewed my drink out on the keyboard, thanks pal! :D
TheIslander829 12y ago
lol
Jimbodini 12y ago
"oh sorry I can't hear these judgements over the moans of the hot 18 year old I am plowing"
[deleted] 12y ago
It's actually another one of those interesting ironies. Women love getting donged by players, but as soon you put what he is into clear and plain words they all go berserker ~
Not to mention a 6 year age gap is like nothing... my record is like 11 years different, and I intend to break that record every year =]
The truth behind most of these comments lies a fat frumpy 26 year old woman who is pissed off that she already blew her best years blowing the Uni lacross team, and now has to compete with a fresh set of hoes doing the same fuckin thing she did.
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
Well, plus by talking about it you are pointing out that women fall for that shit because they are extremely predictible, and oh how they hate to even consider that they aren't all extremely unique and complex and altruistically beautiful on the inside!
My record is 14 years younger than me, but I once drunkenly hit something like 35 years older than me (when I was about 20). I never found out her age, didn't want to. She told me that I didn't need a condom because "oh, honey, I went through menopause a long time ago." I cringed hard, but was ten sheets to the wind, so not a fuck was given. Well, that is, until I had to ninja my way out of the house in the morning and not go back to that town for about a year!
DerickBurton 12y ago
I was thinking that about the frump giving you shit in that thread. Made me laugh when she called you creepy and told you to go away.
[deleted] 12y ago
Yeah, it's like watching a reply in slow motion...
"Oh... this shit... again? For real...?"
[deleted] 12y ago
LMAO!!! Look at this hamster go!!!
"Biomechanics don't cause men to prefer younger more fertile women!"
The king of hamsters has spoken!
Ask women needs to learn about this great tool called Google... only takes you 5 seconds to verify the bullshit before it flies out of your mouth.
And one last, hilarious point I'd like to make is, no guy will ever deny the logic behind a gold digger. Sure some of us might not like gold diggers or being used by women for our cash, but none of us are going to sit there and claim that a woman who marries a man for money, is going directly against her biological imperitives.
Edit: One more last! Notice the sheer number of deleted comments in this thread. Censorship at it's worst... feminist's love their free speech, just not anybody else's ~
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
Oh, the mods in that sub constantly delete posts that they don't agree with, quoting whatever idiotic rule whether it applies or not. I got thrown out long ago. I highly recommend it! (getting banned from there, that is)
Serres 12y ago
When they get to 30, 40 and their options go down... they will be pissed, because the higher status guys will be able to pick of women in their 20s, and they will be less happy to compromise on lower status men than them. This is why they try to shame men dating the women who are willing to date them.
Because he can bang hotter women? Because the women his age were the same age at 18 as him and went for older guys?
When I was 23 women told me it was weird/creepy to date someone 19. Really?
How much you want to bet that many of these women calling him a creeper have dated far older women than they were at the time. I'm different. I was emotionally mature, but those other women are not.
No matter what age a man is, if he is dating a women a few years younger than he is women will call him creepy, because women do not think highly of other women. They will always think the man are preying on the woman, and that the woman is powerless. These women are misogynists.
iggybdawg 12y ago
Hmmmm,
When I was 16, I got friendzoned by all the 16 year old girls, 10-14 yr old girls were chasing me and I was creeped out by them not being sexy to me.
When I was 18-19, I got friendzoned by all the 18-19 yr old girls, my sister's 15-17 year old friends were all after me and my sister and the statutory rape laws cockblocked the hell out of that idea.
When I was 20, I finally hooked up with a freshman, and then soiled my royal oats 20-25.
Are they right when they say I wasn't mature? probably. why? no sexual experience. why? female hypergamy - Biology.
Older guy/Younger girl has been the default coupling for... forever. The only reason 18 year old girls are with 18 year old guys today and both are considered immature are because of locking boys and girls of the same age in close contact with each other from k-12, separated from the rest of the normal adult world.
Edit - dropped the dyslexic acronyms, thanks robot_army_mutiny and sing_those_blues
[deleted] 12y ago
that is my experience too. until i got to my mid 20's, the women who liked me the most were too young for me in society's eyes. even though the younger girls that like me the most are legal now, i'm still a predatory asshole if i want to date them. fuck it! worrying about women's judgement has only ever been a hindrance in my pursuit of happiness.
[deleted] 12y ago
just fuck them and enjoy it.
[deleted] 12y ago
lbjf's? who the fuck said you can make up abbreviations will nilly as such?
iggybdawg 12y ago
"Let's Just Be Friends" - that's all over the sidebar reading.
edit - here's a top post from google
[deleted] 12y ago
pardon my ignorance. thanks.
iggybdawg 12y ago
like any community, the lingo looks weird to newcomers.
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
Well, you guys have been typing "lbjf's", when the acronym is atually "ljbf's". It's "let's just be friends," not "let's be just friends" most commonly. And yes, it can be a noun, a verb, or sometimes an adjective - same as "friendzone".
iggybdawg 12y ago
oops, I should really use "friendzone" and "friendzoned"
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
Meh. I like LJBF too. PUAs coined that term :oP
PuempelsPurpose 12y ago
I love this... some chick calls him a predator, I point out that I bang and date older chicks all the time, several downvotes ensue for no reason, and she responds like an absolute child.
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1bz4ll/what_would_you_think_of_a_guy_in_his_mid_20s_who/c9bsv6v?context=3
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
There's no use in trying to argue logic to women, especially on their turf. In fact, I like that they are so naive and irrational. It makes them easier to deal with. I am a mysogynist, red pill, sarcastic, selfish, cocky, arrogent motherfucker. But around women, I'll totally agree with all the "rape culture" and other nonsense they talk about. Why?
Because it helps me get laid. I don't care what they think. I know that they are totally irrational and nothing I say is going to change that. May as well use it to my advantage!
Not to say that I act fake or lie or anything. I just don't lecture them or try to convince them about The Matrix. Let them live thier fantasies. It actually gets me a lot of respect that I will not agree with what they say about some retarted opinion, so it's clear I feel differently, but I don't feel the need to argue. Makes me look really socially adept - which I am.
Then again, online doesn't really count, and sometimes it is fun to just put people in their places and laugh as you get downvoted to the 7th circle of hell. As long as you don't let it get to you, that is.
Zuke88 12y ago
so, tl;dr: 18 years old woman bangs 26 years old male yay for her and boo for him?
double standards....
robot_army_mutiny 12y ago
Yes, just like when a beautiful model marries a rich old guy, she deserves the best in life because she is such a wonderful role model for women - but he is a dirty pig who just uses his money to get a trophy wife!
soapjackal 12y ago
The whole reasoning on the threads consensus why women feel that way falls under the
"FOR THE CHILDREN"
I wonder how many posters in that thread had older boyfriends when they were 18.
un-affiliated 12y ago
Before or after they dumped their high school boyfriend to "discover" themselves at college?
soapjackal 12y ago
Either, both?
[deleted] 12y ago
I've noticed this before and it still kinda confuses me. If things like this benefit men in anyway it's seen as odd or creepy by women. It's innocent if a woman dates a older man but if a older man shows interest in a younger woman it's creepy.
rebuildingMyself 12y ago
Askwomen isn't one person. I imagine the people bitching about how "predatory" this is are slightly older women who see the Wall approaching. The younger women are silent on this issue because they are riding the cock-carosal at the moment and having a blast.